Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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Taking my big boy voice, okay. Hello. Oh, yeah. Good evening, everyone. I'd like to call to order the Planning Commission meeting of Tuesday, April 21st, 2026. Madam Secretary, do we have the roll call, please? Dolly? Here. Commissioner Bellamy? Here. Commissioner Goscheski? Present. Commissioner Horton? Present. Commissioner Oller? Commissioner Prince? Here. Commissioner Wise? Present. Chairman, you have a quorum. Thank you. Do we have any communications? No. Okay. Do I hear a motion to approve the meeting minutes of April 7th? I'll make a motion that we approve the minutes of April 7th, 2026. Second. All those in favor? I. I. Opposed? Eyes have it. Okay, no consent items, I believe.

Okay. Suzanne, any consent items? No, I'm sorry, there are none. Okay. All right, on to new business. Okay. Um item 6A is minor PDD amendment Z26-9 for the Hope Point PDD. Uh this is a revision to a proposed amendment that you guys last saw um in March 3rd. You voted to deny that citing um concerns with architectural compatibility, so the um applicant has redone the elevations for the townhouses at Hope Point. They're requesting an additional approved product line. Um and they have made uh changes to the elevations to address your concerns from the last meeting. Uh these are the elevations. I've given everyone a hard copy of the the latest rendering um provided. One's the lighting's a little different in between the two images. And the applicant's here to address any other questions. Do we have any uh discussion by any of the commissioners? Well, my question would be, if you look at the rendering, the middle unit and the one to the right of it, they don't have eyebrows, and it looks out of place. Yeah, the intent was to try to preserve both of those options. I understand from an architectural integrity standpoint, you'd want them to be the same, and I suspect that you would want them all to have the eyebrow, which would be my recommendation as well. So. What is an eyebrow? You talking about the shutters? No. No, long board.

where the where it's a gable and they have the eyebrow above the window. Below the window, you see that black line? Oh, okay. One, two, none, none, one. How about shutters on all of them instead of just doing one with no shutters? Yes. [laughter] Yeah. Good good suggestion. there. I thought I thought you were calling shutters eyebrows. It's like, I haven't heard that before. I'm going to mark this down. You learned something tonight.

learn something new. [laughter] Yeah, that's right. Okay. So, would that become part of the motion? This discussion would become part of the motion or Yeah, to make the eyebrows consistent across the facades and shutters on all windows. Yeah. Are all windows are upper windows. Upper. Upper. Are all of them upper? Let's just say all front windows. Yeah, all front windows. Front-facing windows.

[laughter] Front-facing Street-facing windows. Yes. Anybody ready to make that motion? Do we have any further discussion on this? Sure, unless you you want me to make it up, Joe? Make it up, Joe. Okay. Good on the fly. I don't know what they are.

I move that the Planning Commission approves the minor plan development district amendment to the Hope Point PDD, Z-26-9, with the addition of eyebrows to the new renderings and shutters on street-facing windows. Second. Okay, we have a first and a second. Do we have any discussion before we have any further action on this? Is there anyone in the public like make a comment on this uh request? No. Okay, we have a motion and second. Um I'm going to call for a vote. All those in favor? I. I. Opposed? Eyes have it. Thank you. Okay, item 6B is a major PDD amendment to the Peppertree Ocean Club PDD regarding building signage. This PDD was approved in 1988 as a mixed-use oceanfront development. Um the adopted PDD does not include provisions addressing building-mounted signage and the applicant is requesting to amend that to incorporate the signage as shown on your screen. Um it's proposed to be approximately 35 ft by 35 ft, equaling 1,225 sq ft, and would be applied directly to the structure. Staff doesn't have any comments. I believe the applicant is

here this evening to address concerns and um Yeah, I I spoke to I spoke to her before our meeting to talk talk to her about what y'all were concerned about, so. And what did we find out about the sign ordinance? 100 sq ft and 30 ft high was the max? Yeah, when we talked about it this morning, yeah. Yeah. And then the But this is a PDD, so they don't have maxes. Yeah. And then the option of changing to possibly being a mural versus signage. Yeah, I think she can probably address that a little bit.

Okay. Hey there. Maybe come over here and talk so we can get it on the record. So as you know, in 1988, the MHI basically had very little limitations to what the building would have to be. They originally put in the street sign by the road. Um they're proposing to try and do this mural and add Ocean Club. Now they are willing to reduce it if necessary, but they're trying to find out what the max they could because it doesn't impede like site views or anything like that. And it's more of a mural versus an actual stead-on sign. Um we would like to keep the Ocean Club or we could just go to the Turtle, but we'd prefer to, if all else possible, because it just it really enhances the building and they're in the process of giving it a whole face-lift. Are you changing the name of the PDD from Peppertree, so the logo's not changing to a turtle? Correct. The logo it I mean, that's basically it's still Peppertree Ocean Club. They're just removing the Peppertree part, you know, just on the on the building itself cuz they just thought Ocean Club looked prettier when you're putting it up on the building versus having all this writing. But you're not going to change the monument on the street. No. That's That stays the same with the pep with the tree on it. Mhm, they're just wanting to add the sign to the building. Or mural. What however you want

[laughter] They're wanting to paint it on. I think it looks very pretty. Uh but at first glance, I thought the name of the facility was turtle turtle Ocean Club. And it's [laughter] It's not. It's still Peppertree Ocean Club like it is on the original sign. Right. They just basically just they liked the idea of the turtle because of Myrtle Beach in the area and with the saving of all the turtles from all the way down to Pawleys is why that got adopted to see turtles. We all are in North Myrtle Beach. Yeah, we are in North Myrtle. [laughter]

I I do like the the turtle image. I think putting Ocean Club Yes, it looks very nice, but it um isn't consistent with a lot of the other oceanfront hotels that are right there that haven't been allowed to have that large of signage on there. Um my personal opinion would be to take the wording off since the max maximum si- signage was met at the monument si- sign. The MHI originally doesn't have anything, so there's no limitations, unfortunately. But um now what if we reduce the Ocean Club size of it and made the turtle bigger versus the Ocean Club? That's just my one opinion versus I'm just trying to find I'm trying to find the happy medium before you guys to kind of like incorporate for the owner and also for you guys. Sure. I was thinking along the same lines that Ocean Club uh text was a little bit big for the size of the square. And uh you're right, making the turtle a little bit bigger and words Ocean Club a little bit smaller might make it look a little better. I mean, I'm I'm with you on that, Kelly. I I I was thinking about doing that saying that, too. Zoning, if this came in as say we were in R4 and someone wanted to put a mural up with our new regulations, what size would that be able to be in a straight zoning R4? Sorry. If it was purely a mural, it there would be no limitation. If they

interpreted the Ocean Club to be the the the name to have text it that part could be 15 sq ft, I think, cuz it was 15% 10% more of the overall mural not to exceed 15% of the allowed signage, which they are only allowed 100 sq ft of signage. So it's rather small amount of of text. So if they were if they came in in R4 and they wanted to put the turtle in it, they could do that and it's just done. But it when they add the Ocean Club, it has to be 15% of the total turtle total mural size.

It can be up to 10% of the total mural size, not to exceed 15% of the overall allowed square footage of signage, which is 100. So that would be 15 sq ft. Even though the mural is much larger, it's that limiting factor would would rule. the monument side be part of the signage square footage counted as part of the signage square Yeah, that would be the allowed 100 sq ft now currently, the monument sign that's allowed there.

wouldn't be able to write the word Ocean Club on there. They could, but it would be limited to 10% of the mural, not to exceed 15% of the complete allowed amount of signage. So it So with this script, it would basically eliminate Ocean Club. Yeah, basically. Smaller block letters might have worked, but not the script. Unless Ocean Club was deemed to be generic enough that it didn't, you know, convey Peppertree Ocean Club, but that's parsing. That's like saying if you write The Surf Club, everybody knows what The Surf Club is versus The Surf Club Beach and Golf. Go Surf is the

What we're looking at on the screen right now, this is a smaller version, correct? Yes, this is a smaller version if but you know, of course they like the larger version, but Yeah. that is a smaller version. But I mean, I could go back, you know, we could reduce the size of the Ocean Club and make the turtle bigger and bring down Ocean Club a little bit. But I would just need to know what what you would allow, how far it's small, because if you write it like this and you got this big thing, it's not going to Yeah. No, it's not You're going to It's going to look awkward. Do we have a general idea of the dimensions of So we said it was 35 ft, right? 35 by 35, which is 125 sq ft.

So basically that drawing is the 35 by 35. The the original one. This one. No, this this block that this is in is 35 by 35, I think. Uh the original one that you looked at that was submitted, this one? Yeah. I think it's that. That's 1,225 sq ft. Is that just the very outside of the drawing or the outside of that block? Well, they're having to use it in a square even though it's not technically a square. And so that's why So the Ocean Club is 35 ft written out.

Okay. Okay, that's what I need. 35 And then 35 ft high. So that's 35 It's 100 1,225 sq ft. That's almost 10 by 35, the lettering. 10 by not quite 35. Not quite 10? Yeah, 35 wide, yes. You're right. So is it I don't know if it's 8 ft or 10 ft. On the other one, it looked like more than I think it would be 10, but um You saying 10 by 35? Yeah, that's 350 sq ft for just the name. Yeah. If you're looking at that. I think we're opening a big can of worms if we do that. And then it it even if you drop

Even if you drop that down to 5 by 10, it's it's it's it's going to look it's not going it's not going Aesthetically, it will take away from what it's looking like, but if we I think if it's it's either two in one. a yes or a no on Ocean Club. Yeah. I rode by there and that's a lot of wall. Yeah. It's a lot of wall up there. It needs something on it. I don't disagree with that.

And I I think at least a mural Well, I think the mural would be needed to kind of help fill that space. I like I like the turtle. I just But if if you take the original one and you shrink the lettering with that size turtle, then it's out of perspective. I think the main issue that we're having is with the Ocean Club part of the name. Is it another sign? It's pretty much another sign. It's a advertising sign and what we're trying to do is be fair with everybody.

me now. Well, that might and then that would show it in a smaller version. And the turtle's more of the focal versus the Ocean Club. And this will be painted on the wall, correct?

This is painted on the wall. It is not something that's going to be placed or drilled or anything like that. Does the PDD will it reference anything about maintenance ongoing maintenance? It won't say that. Will it be illuminated? No. The only thing that might possibly illuminate is the lights in the parking lot. Nothing's going to be shining up on it. I think it looks great. It's just I'm worried about opening up a can of not turtles, but a can of worms for a bunch of other properties that have large facades that are PDDs and we're we're got a really detailed sign ordinance. Um trying to adhere to that. Yeah. Where other locations aren't a PDD, so they're not allowed that much signage. I love the mural and even adding stuff to it, making it more interact not interactive, but adding more to that I think would be awesome. Well, I guess they were thinking because the sign is so the older Peppertree was so old that when you pass it, people don't notice it, but they would notice Ocean Club up on through the sign the building itself because like I said, it's just going through a major facelift, getting making it look 100% better, more of a you know, prettier piece and What about if they kept the turtle that size and then limited the width to be no wider than the turtle? of the Ocean Club. I'm just throwing out things that we could easily Yeah.

[laughter] That's I mean, I I have my personal opinion, so that's just This uh this also still goes to City Council after y'all's recommendation. Any other discussions, questions, opinions? I like the turtle. I like the original size of the turtle. I'm just size of the Ocean Club.

I'm just thrown by the the lettering and the idea of the signage. I think this our deal is we like the way it looks. It's just the idea that we're approving a sign that really is outside the bounds of what our typical sign ordinance is and trying to balance that and how we how would we deal with that as other people brought their properties to us. I do know like I said, this is an old But so this is what I think is only like five of them in North North Myrtle if this particular zoning records. There's not very many. Cuz I remember last time we had a meeting with the Planning Commission, we were talking about We would like I said, we really like to have the Ocean Club on there. If we need to reduce it to match the size of the turtle, we're willing to do. Well, there's two PUDs right down the road from you. Cherry Grove PUD and Prince PUD. So yeah, there are more PUDs right around.

are, but they're the newer Yeah. I was just home at the old I think it's the purple is it That's why there's no signage that we ended up here. Mhm. Thanks to have me do my job. [laughter]

If we are going to classify it as a mural, does it have to be resubmitted as a mural? No. Not at all. Yeah, it can be Do they even need our approval if it's a mural? In other words, they could You could paint a turtle up there, but no words. Yeah. And that wouldn't be a problem. Right. And then you could work through if you wanted to add Ocean Club, what would that look like if you did the mural? I I would recommend y'all make a recommendation to City Council one way or another with some kind of sizing. Um Well, I think you know, the size of the the script um seems to be the a point of difference among the commissioners. How about a compromise where the turtle is the same size as originally proposed, but limiting the size of the script to the width of the turtle like Joe suggests. Would that be agreeable? This is so arbitrary. Well, you know, this is why we're here and sometimes we got to make the sausage look good.

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Do we know how wide the turtle is? Well, we know the full script footage of it. I do not know what the size of the actual turtle is because he's less than the size of the Ocean Club right now, but I mean, I can Probably 20 by 20. I'll mark 20 by 25 in the most. If you did the if you did the mural, 5 by 13 and 1/2 would be cutting it by half the size it is right now. I don't know if that would make it look not. It'd be 5 by I'm I'm guessing. Mhm? How Is there any other business in the city limits that have a sign that large? Any other business within the city limits that has a sign that is Not sure about

1,225 square feet. Well, the the actual they could use up to eight lines to enclose that. I don't think it would be that large if you did it that way, but I don't know if you remember, we just recently um revised the subdivision ordinance so that the structure that it was on didn't count. So like there's a 35-ft tall tower out on Water Tower Road for Marshfield that has the name of there and that's I mean, it's not a PDD. It went to BZA as a special exception, but if you counted the full square footage of that tower, it'd be it'd be significant. I think Del Webb as well there if you count the full square footage of that base of that little shed, I I don't know exactly what the numbers are, but there are big signs here. The Alabama Theater probably comes to mind.

Yeah. Especially in PDD, some of those there they can be big. Well, let me ask Chris. Because it doesn't say Peppertree, does that make a difference since it's Peppertree Ocean Club? Since it simply says Ocean Club on the wall? Doesn't matter. Okay. So and if somebody were to say that Ocean Club, would you identify that as a sign versus a mural?

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I think we need to stick with It said that that What I'm What I'm wondering is if anybody between 48th Avenue South and Cherry Grove Point could write Ocean Club on their building. Not just a generic term. Or is this the Peppertree Ocean Club? Is the Surf Club a generic term? Could they just leave the club off and put Ocean? That would really be questionable. [laughter]

The Surf Club, Surf and Golf Beach Club. So, it's But I'm saying anybody can hang a sign out there and say Ocean Club. Is that correct? Or is this Peppertree Ocean Club? In other words, if North if North Beach Plantation decided to paint on the side of their building Ocean Club, wouldn't be a problem with it. I think they just because they couldn't figure out how to put Peppertree in there without it being just overly too much. So, they just went with Ocean Club. It was just kind of like do you know, it's one of those things that's like cuz it's so much when you write Peppertree and you try to do Ocean and then Club, that would have just been overly kill to me. Have Ocean Club and just put Peppertree? Well, I mean, it is, but then wouldn't that mess with the signage?

That would 100% be what we're asking them not to do because it's a the largest sign that we would have besides like Alabama Theatre in the city of North Myrtle Beach. Taking up the the writing of the name.

Yeah. What they're asking me to do is they like the turtle, but they'd rather the Ocean Club come down in size and that more be focused of the turtle than the Ocean Club. part What she's kind of saying. That's what some of them are saying. I would say no Ocean Club, but definitely the mural, adding other stuff to it. If it's a club and club, then there's no further than what you just painting on there. Yeah. I think everybody would be happy with that. Yeah. Not that we think you have a bad design. It's It's It's not It's not yours. It's going to be the precedent the precedent that we'd be setting if that becomes qualified to another individual looking at it as a sign then and they want the same on their property. Yeah, they're just trying to make up that wall in that area on that wall. It's just so large. And they're trying to not you know, like cuz whenever you see a wall and then they put like a tiny little thing, it's like why why bother? I guess they're they're just trying to fill it up a little bit and make it look a little And it's And it's Right. That turtle is big as you want. You [laughter] can make the bird You make the turtle as big as you want. Put little turtles around it. Yeah. And what dimensions did you come up with earlier? You had some dimensions you said.

Well, I was just saying, you know, if you cut it in half, it would be He's trying to get close Instead of 10 ft high, make it 5 ft high. Instead of 35 ft, make it 17 and 1/2. So, that would actually put it within about 10% of what the turtle is. So, that would be a classification of a mural at that point. 10 by 17 and 1/2 and it reduces the square footage of it. And it would fall close into that.

It would be very very close to being within the requirements for a mural. Yeah. Then you make the turtle a little bigger than that. Boom boom. But I don't know if that's accomplishes it. That was It sounds like it does. So, are we okay with that and a classifying it as a mural that way some writing can be on there, but it won't be considered the signage? You You don't need to do that. It's a PDD. They can have whatever signage City Council allows them to have. Yeah. We don't need to define it. I think that's beyond what we can do. Beyond what we should try to do at this point. So, we have to say either yes or no. So, it comes down to either yes or no. That's what we'll say.

I mean, it's a recommendation. But I thought you said don't tell council not to to consider it as a mural or maybe go with those guidelines.

I I just don't think you need to define it as a mural. It's a It's just a a It There's There's parts of it that are. There's text. It's a whole issue I don't think needs to be gotten into. They're applying for this as a PDD as a sign ordinance as a sign that's allowed. City Council will make that decision pending y'all's recommendation. You don't have to name it. It's just we would like this to be X. We recommend approval We recommend City Council approve this a version of this sign that looks like X. And then by the time we present it to City Council, it should look like that to them. So, we recommend City Council um approve this based off of mural measurements or No. No, it's not It's not no longer the 17

That's not even Okay. calling it a mural. Okay. It's just Although that might be our ruler or guide that we're using, that's not to be named that. But don't call it a mural. Just say 10% of the whatever and then overall 15%. I wouldn't even That way we don't have to come up with a random number. We're not going to come up with any numbers. Right. I wouldn't go that far. That's too detailed. Okay. I don't know how you guys want to say it.

to mold this into something that's something else. I'm not understanding what you guys are saying. So, go ahead and propose and I'll try to understand what you're saying. Okay. Would Would everybody be happy with the recommendation to City Council that the sign quote unquote sign be as proposed with the exception that the script Ocean Club be smaller? I mean, just leave it generic like that or do we need Are you feeling more confident that I You want to lock it down to a

being told not to give specifics. So, I don't know how to handle it. What you said is a recommendation lowering the script to approximately half of what it is now. We don't want to create a problem about what we're Yeah. And as far as the specific is concerned, I think we ought to kick that can up to City Council. Let them decide. Right. Generally speaking, I think it's acceptable as it looks. It's pretty etc. We just have a problem with the size. Of the script.

Of the script. Yeah. Okay. We don't all have to agree. No, we don't. There's what That's why there's seven of us. We don't all have to agree. [laughter] All right. Look, I'll here I I'd like to have a have a motion and a second on what to do. Okay. [clears throat]

I'll make a motion that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the major plan development district amendment to Peppertree Ocean Club PDD with the exception of making Ocean Club script smaller. I second that. We have a first and a second. Any final comments? I'll call for a vote. Oh, let me ask you, anyone in the public have anything to say about this? Nope. Okay, I'll call for a vote. All those in favor. I. Opposed? I. The eyes have it. Thanks for your patience. Sorry about the back and forth. No, that's That's good. I want something a little more defined to send.

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Yeah. We will get that here. rubber stamping going on. Okay. Item 6C is zoning ordinance text amendment Z20 ZTX266. This amendment is to allow places of worship as a permitted use within the R2A zoning district. Um and currently in the residential zoning districts R1, R1B, R2B, and R3 are places of worship are permitted by right. So, um I know we talked about it this morning, but this would just add under permitted uses um D, churches, places of worship, religious institutions, including accredited educational facilities and accessory there to to the allowed uses within R2A. Um and staff has no comment on this. And this would go to City Council for approval based on your recommendation for the May 4th meeting. Talked about it this morning. Anybody have any comments, questions, opinions on this? I think the thing we talked about this morning is that that brought this in conformity with all of our other districts. So. Yep. Yeah. Mr. Chairman, I move the planning commission recommend approval of the zoning ordinance text amendment ZTX 26-6 as submitted. Second. Okay, we have first and a second. Any final comments before we take a vote? Anyone from the public have anything to say about it? Okay, no comments, no further discussion by the council. Um Call for a vote. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Eyes have it.

Item 6D is zoning ordinance text amendment ZTX 26-7. Uh this is to revise and clarify regulations related to outdoor storage, parking, and display, including creating standards for outdoor storage of personal property in residential areas. Um as written I know we discussed this this morning, but I added um on the second the third second page, the highlighted area for temporary residen- residential use for storage containers. Um but so it's taking multiple sections of our zoning ordinance where it deals with parking, storage, and display. So that's 23-113, parking storage or use of major recreational equipment, 23-114, parking and storage of certain vehicles, 23-128, display of outdoor merchandise, 23-129.1, storage containers and storage trailers, and 23-129.2, outdoor displays of good and goods and merchandise, and puts them all together under a newly 23-113 outdoor storage, parking, and display. Um it goes through major recreational equipment. The only change to that is to add trailers to that definition. Um No major recreational equipment shall be parked or stored on any lot in a residential district except in a carport or enclosed building or behind the nearest portion of a building to a street. However, such equipment may be parked anywhere on premises not to exceed 24 hours during loading and unloading. Um and this is not changing that. It just added trailers into that. Um then trailers Well, sorry. And then go down to two automotive vehicles without current license plates shall not be parked or stored on any residentially zoned property other than in completely enclosed buildings, excluding

non-conforming commercial and or industrial uses. So that hasn't changed anything. [laughter]

Nothing from that has changed from our current ordinance. Then storage containers, and as I've added I've It's a little bit It's a big paragraph in the current ordinance, but it's just a little bit laid out differently. But storage containers are prefabricated, fully enclosed, box-like unit designed for the storage or shipment of goods typically delivered to a site by truck and not intended for regular movement on public roadways under its own wheels. This term includes intermodal shipping containers and similar portable storage units, but does not include trailers or vehicles designed for towing. A storage container shall be prohibited in all residential districts and residential areas of PDD. B, except as otherwise authorized by this chapter, storage containers shall be limited to one such unit per property, and this just deals with commercial areas. And then I added, based on this morning's discussion, C, temporary residential use. Notwithstanding the above, one storage container may be placed on a residential property for temporary [snorts] use in connection with moving, renovation, or similar short-term activity activity for a period not to exceed 30 days. I just picked that one, so if you guys would like a different number there, that's fine. Um the container shall be located on a driveway or other improved surface and shall not be placed within the public right-of-way or required setbacks. And then the big change is adding the section four, outdoor storage of personal property in residential districts. Applicability applies to all residential zoning districts and residential portions of PDDs. Location, outdoor storage of personal property not otherwise regulated by this chapter shall be limited to side or rear yards only. Screening, such storage areas shall be screened from view from streets and adjacent residential properties. Screening shall comply with height limits and visibility requirements applicable defenses in residential districts, and shall consist of one, a solid fence meeting the requirements of this chapter fence and landscaping providing an equivalent visual barrier. Then D, safety and access. Stored

materials shall not one, obstruct required access to buildings, utilities, or emergency services. Two, occupy required parking areas. Three, create a public health or safety hazard. Or four, harbor rodents or vermin. Exemptions. The following items are exempt when customarily associated with residential use, lawn furniture and ornaments, grills, children's play equipment, firewood, and landscaping materials. And then F, compliance for existing conditions. Any outdoor storage of personal property that lawfully existed prior to the effective date of this section, but does not conform to these standards, shall be brought into compliance as follows. By December 31st, 2026, such storage shall be brought into compliance with the location and safety requirements of this section. And by December 31st, 2027, full compliance with all provisions of this section shall be achieved. And then part five is just the outdoor display of merchandise, and that was taken directly from the 123 23-129.2. Nothing has been revised in that. Well, already then. That was a lot to unpack. Any thoughts, comments, questions by council members? I think it's a good idea to consolidate all those different uh sections into one. So nothing's changed except for the storage container. All these preexisted.

Fair. Even the storage containers. It just defined it a little bit more. The section four, outdoor storage of personal property that I read through, is completely new. Okay. But other than that, all these ordinances were already in existence. Okay. Just consolidating them all under one section. One uh yeah, 23-113. But in that section number four, personal property refers to anything that's not attached to the home, right? I'm asking. There's no like definition of what it is, but that's what it is, right?

Yeah. I mean it it's not RVs. That is our our our storage, you know, that's regulated earlier. It's not autos. The things that are exempt are lawn furniture and ornaments, grills, children's play equipment, firewood, and landscaping materials. That could be allowed not to be in the front and rear. Or screened. What would be What's an example of personal prop- What is example of what would fall in number four? Okay. Right. like little gnome or your little angel that sits out. That would be allowed as a lawn ornament.

Okay. As a lawn ornament. Okay. All right. What about current trash cans? The city trash cans. Right now they're not Some of them are not screened. I can add an exemption for trash cans cuz I don't think that would I don't think that's the intent. I think it's more for clutter in a Yeah. Those aren't personal. They belong to the city. That's true, too. Very true. Although you are paying for them. Yes, but they're not personal property. They're the city's equipment. [snorts] But I can add that into the exemptions if if y'all choose [laughter] to move this forward. Think of what else would I know. I'm trying to think of

bicycle. You know, is that really weird? Like a bicycle? No, I think that would be considered Well, bicycles would be okay. That's not the intent. It's more about bends of stuff that's like sitting out in a yard or Like storage bins. Yeah, things like Yeah. No, but like a washing machine.

Yes. A washing machine that is sitting there and Or couch. A couch. But that's lawn furniture. Not No. Kit- kitchen table. How about eight bicycles? All right. So it Yeah, I get, but you know, there's a lot of things that I think it eventually we'll have to define a little bit more and maybe Yeah, if we run into a This is a great start. Um one thing that I would like to add would be um what I talked about before we were on record, possible disaster recovery. Storage for disaster recovery. Lay down yards for that. Or not lay down yards, but you know what I'm saying. If they set up in front of my place with RVs and the State Farm Yeah. Rescue team. We can address that for the next for when it goes to city council. If y'all move this forward, we can get that in there. State Farm get a parking space. Or there are there not some special ordinances outside of this that would apply to s- There may very well be. There probably is cuz I think everything kind of kind of a martial law situation at that point. This will help rein in a few things maybe and go from there if there's something else that has to be defined, we can define it later and add it to the ordinance. Yeah. But I understood this morning that if I was if I had a disaster and I was getting a permit to repair and all that was cover me anyway. That would, correct.

talking like a major national disaster, a hurricane and you've got major companies coming in and they need places Amer- Red Cross, you know, all those people to lay down temporarily. When I say lay down, bring pods of storage, water. regulations ordinance Yeah. But just to make sure that it you don't have a Karen say, "I don't want the Red Cross in the parking lot across from my house."

Right. Right. Yeah. When they're here helping trying to recover, right? Or FEMA whenever they come in. That's not the intent. So yeah, we can definitely make sure that that's covered. I'm trying to think of other things in the front yard. Anything else that shouldn't be there? Yeah. I don't know of anything. Wishing wells, whirligigs lighthouses Like lighthouses? No, that would all be allowed as lawn ornament. Mhm. [clears throat] If somebody has planter boxes in the front I would consider that landscaping material.

good call. Yeah. All right. It seems pretty straightforward, but [laughter] we'll see. We'll try. Okay. Here's hoping. I'm hoping. Any further discussions? Comments? I entertain a motion. I move that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the zoning ordinance text amendment ZTX-26-7 as submitted. I'll second that. [clears throat]

Okay, we have a first and second. Do we have any comments from the public? No? Last chance for comments before we take a vote. Would it not be amended instead of as submitted because what was submitted is being changed now to this amended version that we only have looked at, not what was submitted in the packet. That's correct. Well, I guess it's submitted uh Either way it's good. Yes, amended. Well, then I will amend my motion. I move the Planning Commission recommend approval of the zoning ordinance text amendment ZTX-26-7 as amended. Second that. Okay, we have a first and second. True. And no one from the public is wanting to say anything about it? Not that we have any public out there, but yeah, we got Still have to get two dimensions. We recognize her. Okay, uh I'll call for a vote. All those in favor. Aye. Opposed? Eyes have it. Thank you. Okay, item 6E is zoning ordinance text amendment ZTX-26-8 this re- related to correcting inconsistencies regarding staggered terms for the Board of Zoning Appeals. Um in the recent past, maybe in the last 5 years, the membership section of the BZA was updated to um consist of seven members instead of five. However, the term language was never updated. So this revises it so that it would say the Board of Zoning Appeals shall consist of seven members appointed by the mayor and council. The terms of office shall be 4 years. Three of the seven members shall be appointed for 2-year terms ending December 15th, 2026 and four of the seven members shall be appointed for 4-year terms ending December 15th, 2028.

And that that's already been done. So this is just catching up with the um [sighs]

housekeeping with the ordinance to clean everything up. Anyone have any comments about that? From the public? No? Call for motion. I move [clears throat] that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the zoning ordinance text amendment ZTX-26-8 as submitted. Second. We have a first and second. Any last minute discussion? All those in favor. Aye. Opposed? Eyes have it. [clears throat]

We have item 6F preliminary subdivision plat SUB2614. This plat will be creating 19 residential lots, open space and a private right-of-way for Indigo Townhomes at The Preserve. Uh Planning Commission recommended approval of the major amendment creating The Preserve on August 30th, 2022. The preliminary plat for the paired villas section of development was approved on June 18th, 2024. Uh April 7th, 2025 City Council approved major amendment to entitle The Retreat in its current configuration and the preliminary plat for The Retreat was approved on August 19th, 2025. Um this development will be accessed by Longbranch Loop. The total area of the subdivision is 4.85 acres. Um it's one lot of record and zone PDD. The parcel is unused and vacant. Um and the plat is substantially consistent with the approved PDD master plan. Um on top of the 19 residential lots, we'll be seeing 3.06 acres of open space area um and a private right-of-way. All residential lots are intended for the construction of townhomes. The smallest lot size is 2,736 square feet and the largest lot size is 5,069 square feet. Uh the density of the subdivision is 6.2 dwelling units per acre. All setbacks conform to the standards of the Parkway Group PDD. Uh we'll be seeing this plat continuing Summerbreeze Lane um but it'll be transitioning from a 50-ft wide public right-of-way to a proposed 50-ft wide private right-of-way. Um and this will be designed to receive standards including sidewalks and street trees um and the construction documents have been reviewed by city staff and there are no issues at the staff level. Okay, any discussion?

Questions? And this was entitled with eight units on that one side? Yes, it was. Okay. [clears throat] I have concerns with the two lots that butt up to the wetlands area. Because it seems to not provide enough buffer to the wetland area. These two back here? Correct. Since we don't know what the um the footprint of the home will be [laughter] that that concerns me that we're just the the buffer of the wetlands right there is almost non-existent. Yeah. So I

property line. I get that concern for the wetlands, but um due to the land regs being frozen in 2012 um the the buffer doesn't really apply here. Um and the um what's shown is consistent to the PDD master plan. Got you. The shaded area is some sort of buffer, right? But it gets real narrow by the lot. Yes. Yeah, this is the wetland buffer in the shaded area and like you said, it does kind of it is non-existent really right here. I just just to address that um our wetland buffer when it ordinance when that came to pass when this ordinance was going through, they more agreed to an average wetland buffer. So it it's not exact and they had the flexibility to do that because their DA froze their land regs from from 2011 before we even had a buffer buffer ordinance for wetlands. So this is kind of the most they would give us here. So we're bound by the DA. Okay. And them was good with eight townhomes? Okay. Sorry, not trying to be rude. I just

No, I I understand. Any comments? No? I need shades. [clears throat]

Which is less distracting, that or this? You got the sun. Okay, uh last minute opinions, comments, questions? None? Anyone from the public have anything to say? No? Okay, I'll call for a motion. I'll I'll a motion that we approve the preliminary plat of subdivision as submitted. Second. First and second, last minute before we vote. No further comments. Calling for the vote. All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Opposed. Ayes have it. Okay. Thank you. Anyone from the public have anything to say before we adjourn? No. Mr. Chairman, I move that we adjourn. Second. All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Good.