Planning Commission - Special Meeting

Wednesday, March 19, 2025
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Government Body
Planning Commission
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Planning Commission
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New York, NY
Meeting Date
March 19, 2025

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4:39 – 4:580

Sir, if you could please take your seat, we're going get started. Good morning, everybody. I'm Dan Gorodnik, Chair of the City Planning Commission and Director of the Department of City Planning. Welcome to today's meeting of 03/19/2025. We're going to start off today with a special review session to go over a couple of City Council modifications.

4:58 – 5:390

The first is for a mixed use building at 123.12 Sutphin Boulevard in South Jamaica. That would include a house of worship and 125 homes around 30 of them affordable. The second is for a 100% income restricted affordable transit oriented development proposed by the Department of Housing Preservation and Development at 581 Grant Avenue in East New York, Brooklyn. From there, we will open our public meeting with a few votes on projects in The Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens before getting to our public hearings. The first vote is for an authorization for 5445 Palisade Avenue in North Riverdale, The Bronx.

5:40 – 6:260

The owner is seeking to add a 60 square foot enlargement on the 1st Floor of the house that would include a kitchen, patio, porch extension and new pool. Next up, we will vote on the Atlantic Avenue mixed use plan, a transformational proposal to bring new homes, jobs and infrastructure to a roughly 21 block stretch of Atlantic Avenue and neighboring blocks in Crown Heights, Bedford Stuyvesant and Prospect Heights. I will have more to say on that project shortly. Staying in Brooklyn, Brooklyn will next vote on 7003 And 99 Empire Boulevard in Crown Heights. This project would include over two sixty new homes, around 80 of them income restricted affordable as well as Ground Floor and 2nd Floor retail.

6:27 – 7:170

The building would be close to Prospect Park and accessible by mass transit including the two and five train at Sterling Street, the BQ and S at Prospect Park and the B48 and B49 buses. Our next vote also in Brooklyn is on 166 Kings Highway in Bensonhurst. This mixed use building would include nearly 100 new homes of which 30 would be income restricted affordable on top of Ground Floor commercial space. The site is close to Seth Low Playground, the High Lawn branch of the Brooklyn Public Library and the Kings Highway N subway station. We'll wrap up our votes today with an acquisition that would allow the Administration for Children's Services to continue operating out of 160 One-one Jamaica Avenue in Jamaica, Queens.

7:17 – 8:230

The office space accommodates around 165 ACS staff members including child protective specialists, supervisors, managers, investigative consultants and support staff. Moving to our public hearings, we'll begin with a 100% affordable residential proposal that falls within the boundaries of the East New York neighborhood plan. Grace Houses would include over 150 income restricted homes and space for Grace Baptist Church all near several neighborhood resources such as the East New York HealthHUB Medical Clinic, two fresh supermarkets, an NYPD Community Center, the B-twenty and B-eighty three buses and the C Train at Liberty Avenue. The public is also invited to testify on 109 Marcus Garvey Boulevard, a proposed residential development that would bring nearly 300 income restricted affordable homes for seniors to Bedford Stuyvesant Brooklyn. The building would include a courtyard for tenants and be close to the Lewis And Pulaski Playgrounds.

8:23 – 8:580

From there we'll open the floor to testimony on 145 for Harlem. This mixed use project looks to create nearly nine seventy new homes over two ninety of them permanently income restricted and affordable. The building would be next to Brigadier General Charles Young playground and the three train at one hundred and forty fifth Street. Our last hearing for today is on multiple street map changes related to the Coney development. This proposed 1,300,000 square foot entertainment complex at Coney Island would include a gaming facility, hotel, convention center, food hall, retail space and more.

8:58 – 9:290

If approved, the project would be spread out on Surf Avenue across three blocks between Maimonides Ballpark and Luna Park close to the Boardwalk. In addition to the land use actions before us, the application would still need to go through the state defined siting process which includes required approval by a six person community advisory committee, which includes representatives from the mayor, borough president and local council member among others. So there's a lot to do today. Madam Secretary, let's get started.

9:29 – 10:011

Good morning, and welcome to the City Planning Commission special review session for Wednesday, 03/19/2025. The time is 10:07 and a quorum is present. The first item on our agenda is the City Council modification scope determination for 120 Three-twelve Saffin Boulevard rezoning. The City Council proposes to modify the zoning tax amendment to Appendix F, removing MIH Option two and adding MIH Option three and to modify the zoning map amendment and staff believes this modification is within scope. Andrew Wasserman is on Zoom to present.

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Alright, Andrew. Welcome.

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Morning, commissioners. Just a quick tech check. Can you hear me alright?

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We can.

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Alright. Excellent. Did I see the slides? Alright. So I'm presenting a follow-up on 12312 Sutton Boulevard rezoning. The CPC voted to approve this application on January 8, and I'm back with a city council modification. The city council zoning subcommittee and land use committee voted on this yesterday. Next slide, please. As a quick reminder, this is a private application by Full Gospel Mission Church and SBR Equities in the South Jamaica neighborhood of Queens Community District 12. The proposed actions were meant to facilitate the development of a new eight story plus seller mixed use residential and community facility building with 125 total dwelling units, including 31 income restricted units.

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Next slide, please. The applicant proposed the zoning map amendment to change existing r three a, r three a slash c one three, and r six zoning districts to r six a and r six a slash c one three zoning districts as well as r six to r three a zoning district. The applicant also proposed a zoning text amendment to map m I h coterminous with the proposed r six a district. Next slide, please. So on this slide, we see the change from the originally proposed, zoning map change to the to the council mods.

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The city council modified the zoning map amendment as follows. The proposed change from r three a to r six a has been changed to r six d. In order for this modification to remain in scope, the southernmost 25 feet of the development site, which would have been rezoned from R 6 to R 6 A, will instead remain R 6. So for that portion of the lot, there will be no change. The proposed change from R 3 A Slash C 13 to R 6 A Slash C 13 has been changed to R 6 B Slash C 13.

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And the proposed change from R 6 A to R 3 A along 147th Street has not been modified. Next slide please. This table shows the maximum and building height for the proposed and modified zoning districts are modified from the proposed 3.9 for districts to a maximum of three for and 2.4 for. The portion of the project area that remains will stay at a maximum of 3.9. And the maximum building heights are reduced by 20 to 30 feet, depending on the district.

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Next slide please. Because the city council modifications reduce the area being rezoned, the MH area also had to be reduced as well. It remains coterminous with the R 6 B and R 6 D Districts. The city council also modified the MIH options, removing MIH option two and replacing it with option three. This concludes my presentation, and happy to take any questions.

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Great. Thank you very much for that. Let me see if there are questions from the commission about the council's modifications. Okay. Reminder, it's a scope determination. And so I will take the vote. I'll seek a sent by a voice vote at this time to send a scope determination letter to the council. All those in favor, please say aye.

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Opposed, nay. Okay. We will proceed. Thank you very much. The ayes have it. Madam Chair.

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The second item on our agenda is a City Council modification scope determination for 581 Grant Avenue development. The City Council proposes to modify the zoning tax amendment to Appendix F removing MIH Option two and adding MIH Option three. And staff believes this modification is within scope.

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Okay. Simpler one here. I'm going to proceed to scope determination vote. Seek a sent by voice vote to send the scope determination letter to the council. All those in favor please say aye.

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Aye. Opposed?

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Thank you. Okay. That is also approved for 581 Grand Avenue. Thank you. Other items on our special review session agenda?

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No, Chair.

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Okay. So let's proceed. Let's close the review session and move on to the next item the next meeting of the day, let's call it. Thank you.

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Thank you, Chair. Good morning. This is the City Planning Commission public meeting held remotely through the NYC Engage portal and in person in the CPC Hearing Room 120 Broadway Lower Concourse. Today is Wednesday, 03/19/2025. I will now call the roll. Chair Gorodnik?

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Vice Chair Nacho?

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Commissioner Benjamin? Present. Commissioner Cerullo?

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Commissioner Krall? Present. Commissioner Dweck? Here. Commissioner Gold?

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Commissioner Goodrich? Here. Commissioner Karmani? Here. Commissioner Mann? Here. Commissioner Manin? Here. Commissioner Osorio? Here. Commissioner Rampaschach? Here. A quorum is present. The first item is the approval of minutes of the public meeting of Wednesday, 03/05/2020

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Great. On the minutes, I make a motion to approve those minutes of March 5, seconded by Commissioner Rampershed. Thank you. All those in favor, say aye.

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Opposed, nay. Okay. Minutes are approved.

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Scheduling. Calendar number one, scheduling Wednesday, 04/09/2025 for a public hearing to be held in person in the CPC Hearing Room 120 Broadway and remotely through the NYC Engage portal.

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Great. I make a motion to approve the resolution. Second. Seconded by the Vice Chairman. All those in favor, please say aye.

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Aye. Okay.

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Opposed, nay. Okay. Resolution is adopted. Thank you.

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The next part of the calendar is the report section on Page five. Borough Of The Bronx, calendar number two, 5445 Palisade Avenue, SNAS, CD8N250133Zax, in the matter of an application for a grant of a zoning authorization concerning 5445 Palisade Avenue, SNAD. For the adoption of calendar number two, Chair Grodnik?

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Vice Chair Knuckles?

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Commissioner Benjamin? Aye. Commissioner Cerullo?

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Commissioner Kral? Yes. Commissioner Dweck? Yes. Commissioner Gold?

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Commissioner Goodrich? Commissioner Karmani? Yes. Commissioner Mann?

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Commissioner Marine? Yes. Commissioner Osorio? Yes. Commissioner Rampaschach?

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Calendar number two has been adopted. Borough Of Brooklyn, calendar numbers three through 12, Atlantic Avenue mixed use plan, Community District 3 And 8. Calendar number 3C250014ZMK. Calendar number 4N250015ZRK. Calendar number 5, C250020PQK. Calendar number 6, C250021PPK. Calendar number 7250022PPK. Calendar number 8, C250023PPK. Calendar number 9, C250016HAK. Calendar number 10, C250019PQK.

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Calendar number 11, C250017HAK. Calendar number 12, 250018PQK in the matter of applications for zoning map and tax amendments acquisitions and dispositions of city owned properties UDOP designation and project approval concerning Atlantic Avenue mixed use plan For favorable reports on calendar numbers three through 12, Chair Gorodnik?

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Thank you very much, Madam Secretary. And before casting my vote, I'd just like to take a moment to speak about the importance of this neighborhood plan. Since the 1960s, this stretch of Atlantic Avenue and its surrounding blocks have been zoned for one to two story auto uses, storage and industrial buildings despite its excellent access to public transit and major job hubs. This restrictive non residential zoning has left the neighborhood unequipped to deal with the high demand to live there. Due to the lack of supply this community has seen rising housing costs, tenant harassment and displacement over the last ten to fifteen years.

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The Atlantic Avenue mixed use plan is an opportunity to change course transforming the corridor into a vibrant mix of commercial, residential and manufacturing including around 4,600 new homes approximately fourteen forty of them income restricted affordable as well as space for 2,800 new jobs. To reach those housing numbers, the city will maximize the number of income restricted affordable homes that can be built on public sites in the neighborhood, making the best use out of city owned land in the area. These homes will help turn the tide and offer more residential opportunities for New Yorkers than could exist today. We're also working with the city's Department of Housing Preservation and Development to advance anti displacement efforts to support renters and homeowners in the area making sure long time residents are supported as this plan advances. A neighborhood is more than just homes though, it thrives when it has the infrastructure to support residents.

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This plan will deliver vital infrastructure and streetscape improvements that will help make this part of Central Brooklyn more vibrant and safer than ever. As part of this plan, the New York City Department of Transportation will implement street safety projects including planters, bike corrals and daylighting at intersections along Atlantic Avenue and nearby blocks to improve pedestrian visibility, safety and accessibility. The city is also investing heavily in the public realm including a down payment of over $24,000,000 to St. Andrew's Playground for a new synthetic turf multi use field with a running track, upgraded basketball and handball courts, renovated playground spaces and new seating, shade trees, plantings and other green infrastructure. The administration is also committed to enhancing Lowry Triangle near Atlantic Avenue and Washington Avenue to help community members better enjoy that space.

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With these improvements, residents and workers alike would have more welcoming places to exercise, enjoy a coffee, people watch or just relax. And that's not all here. We're also planning for the long term with an eye toward climate change. Other ongoing work includes stormwater and sewer upgrades along Atlantic Avenue and Dean Street as well as subsurface storm water retention systems and more than 100 rain gardens. These investments will bolster sewer capacity and help these neighborhoods better handle flooding and storm events.

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Building on over a decade of public engagement, this transformational plan would bring forth housing, jobs and infrastructure improvements that will benefit New Yorkers for decades to come. It would replace today's restrictive zoning rules with a more dynamic mix that would make it possible for someone to live in an income restricted apartment, walk along a safer Atlantic Avenue to their job in the commercial or manufacturing sector and enjoy lunch at a newly renovated public space. I'd like to thank council members Crystal Hudson and Chi Osei for their leadership during this planning process and public review as well as Community Boards III and VIII and Borough President Antonio Reynoso for their support. I'd also like to shout out the New York City Council Land Use Division, facilitator WXY Studio, our agency partners and the Central Brooklyn community for their collaboration in crafting this thoughtful plan. Finally, thanks to everyone at the Department of City Planning who helped us reach this milestone including community planning and civic engagement, the council's office, economic development and regional planning, environmental assessment and review, housing, strategic planning, technical review, transportation, urban design, zoning, communications, IGA, IT, web team and especially the Brooklyn team of Alex Summer, Corenza Wood, Bianca Bryant, Kyra Cuevas McCarthy, Jordan Frade, Demetrius McClester and project leads Jonah Rogoff and Jesse Hirokawa who are here in the room with us today.

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I probably could have thanked the whole agency because nearly everybody had a hand in this, but those particular divisions and that particular team deserve our particular thanks. So with that, Madam Secretary, thank you for the opportunity and I gladly vote aye.

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Thank you, Chair. Vice Chair Knuckles?

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Well, I agree with the remarks of the Chair. This has been a long deliberative and focused, effort concentrated on a very, very important corridor, within Brooklyn. So I too salute not only the community boards and the legislative representatives of the area, but certainly the department for their engaged and hard work on this on this rezoning. And I think, the city will will see the fruits of of of, the collective labor in the very near future. I vote yes.

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Commissioner Benjamin? I'd like

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to thank the Brooklyn office for leading us on tours, for listening to us, for responding to our questions and concerns. And I'd like to thank the local community boards in particular who engaged in a multi year planning process and became intimately involved with the details of what this plan would look like. For that reason, I'm going to support it because this is something that arose originally from the community. And while I'm sure they have made concessions to what their original plan would have been, I also think we need to really listen to communities when they engage in this kind of a process and arrive at a point where so many different elements are supporting it. That said, I still remain concerned about two aspects of this.

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The first one, which the department has addressed,

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the MX District and the incentive to include on the 1st Floor manufacturing. And how I'm pleased to see the modification that involves a chair certification that would require additional looks at the air quality to make sure there was no impact on the above residential from the manufacturing use that could be below. I'm still not sure how it's going to work.

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So I'd like to put

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it out there and make sure that we continue to be involved with that process and how it's going to work. And my second concern is the future actions that will come as a result of study on Atlantic Avenue itself. As you're aware, Atlantic Avenue was a major thoroughfare, particularly for trucks that want to get through Brooklyn, through Queens, to Long Island, and cars who want to do the same. The measures that DOT has talked about, it's not clear to me how those measures will be implemented and whether they will allow traffic to flow freely on Atlantic Avenue once they are. I understand that if they are able to do the road diet, that would be the subject of its own review.

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But I am concerned, particularly since we're putting all of this bulk and height on Atlantic Avenue, that we could be creating an air quality tunnel. I know that everyone involved is trying to avoid these actions creating other problems. And as I said, I am so happy to see community plans coming to fruition that I am going to vote yes.

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Commissioner Cerullo? Yes. Commissioner Kual? Yes. Commissioner Dweck? Yes. Commissioner Gold?

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Commissioner Goodrich?

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I wanna thank everyone involved in the project. It was a very long and extensive project with a lot of meetings. So thank you to the staff for taking your time out and meeting with us to explain everything. I think when we, as the City Planning Commission, vote yes on things and even when we vote no, most of the time the city council members just see the yes vote. I'm sorry, not when we vote no.

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When we vote a yes but express reservations, most of the time they just see a yes vote and might not understand that we have some deep reservations about things. So I'm going to express my reservations about this project. First by stating that the bulk of the project, it has many good aspects that I agree with. But the main part that I am concerned about, and it won't be a surprise to most people, will be affordability. As of now, the affordability options are not set.

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So there are varying options for MIH here. And some of the main ones that will be the likely one, the more lucrative one for the developer would be a ton of the units, four sixty six of them being once again $2,100 studios for the affordable housing. This area I know intimately well. I'm from Brooklyn. And for affordable housing, this is the number one thing that people express to me that is really a failure of affordable housing for it to be $2,100 studios.

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And this is based off of a formula that goes beyond this project. I have an issue with MIH in general. It's based off of a gross income. And by the time you take out this is considered 30% of your income. And by the time you take out taxes, the $87,000 is $60,000 And so who can really afford $2,100 with that paycheck? There is I want to speak to the tenant displacement aspect of the project. I used to be a tenants rights attorney. And I would be one of the people representing anyone who would be facing eviction. And I can tell you that the main issue is the rent. So people will come back after.

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You say you prevent someone's eviction, And if the rent still remains too high, their case comes back a year later, two years later. So I wish that some of the focus I think it's helpful, obviously, to have tenant displacement. But if we are talking about money being spent in funding, it would be helpful if that was concentrated on more deeper affordability units. What I would like to see here and I'm voting no because I want to signal to the city council when they have their negotiations. What I would like to see here is deeper affordability options.

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I think that it's great that for some of the city owned properties, they are 100% affordable housing. But what we have seen time and again is that MIH is not enough. As I've shown, sometimes you have and some of these projects might well be 120% of MIH. That's six going up to 100,120 thousand dollars for one person to qualify for affordable housing, which is not helpful for this area. In this area studies have shown it is a predominantly black area and studies have shown that the rate of eviction is three times in this area for black residents and white residents.

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There was a study a number of years ago. And that came up in the line of my work. So for me, when I see a project of this magnitude, when we're talking about 4,800 housing units, about 4,800 housing units and only 1,400 of them being affordable and of the affordable number, some of them are going to be for middle a chunk of them will be for middle income and high income. I consider $100,000 high income. It just ends up not being enough.

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So for me, I want to say that there are many great aspects of the proposal, but I want to signal to the city council that when you're negotiating with the developers to please have deeper affordability and to listen to CB8 who also had this concern of having more affordable units. Thank you.

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Commissioner Kramani? Yes. Commissioner Mann?

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I also wanted to thank the community board, as Commissioner Benjamin mentioned, for their years, really years of work, to get this rezoning proposal, here, and obviously acknowledging that the Brooklyn DCP office for listening carefully and working with them collaboratively, and the leadership of the council members for, I think showing some courage, to allow for additional housing development here. There's two items that I I just would want, and I hope the council focuses on. One is the design of Atlantic Avenue. I do think there is more work there to be done. And the second piece is really making sure that we unlock every possible city owned site in the area for affordable housing. I think there's work there to be done as well. But with that, I vote aye. Thank you.

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Commissioner Manin?

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I'd like to agree with Commissioner Mann on his point about city owned property and studying that and making sure that that is maintained as affordable.

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But I do vote yes.

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Commissioner Osorio?

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I I join my colleagues in commending the Department of City Planning, particularly the Brooklyn Borough Office for the strong work behind this plan and for fully discussing our questions and concerns. I also agree with commissioner Goodrich in that defaulting to MIH here is simply not enough. Having said this, I also want to highlight strengths such as the important effort to maximize as much as possible, although maybe for the time being, the number of affordable housing units in public land, the new incentive to creating open space, the proposed mechanism to anticipate potential conflicts deriving from the integration of residential and nonresidential uses, and as Commissioner Gudrich said, activating anti displacement mechanisms for current residents. But I've decided to vote no unless there's a requirement that a percentage of the building is reserved for industrial uses hopefully manufacturing in MX districts. I very much agree with the Brooklyn Borough President and that this is a necessary condition to achieving the goals of the plan.

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I strongly believe that unless zoning requires this, MX districts without industrial uses will make it even harder for working class New Yorkers to afford rent here. And we will be missing the opportunity to benefit from the economic growth that is reported by NYSERDA with green jobs in New York State or what Community Board eight is asking for with their request for a green technology incubator. Finally, if industrial users cannot compete here for space and need to go elsewhere, they have no choice than to relocate to the same low income and communities of color that have historically been disproportionately burned by environmental justice impacts. Thank you.

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Commissioner Rampuchak.

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I too would like to thank the Brooklyn Borough Office as well as the local community boards and community members for their involvement with this project. I also like to align myself with the comments mentioned by Commissioner Benjamin and Commissioner Mann and I vote yes.

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Favorable reports have been adopted 100 on calendar

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numbers three through 12. Calendar numbers 1314, 7099

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Empire Boulevard Rezoning, CD9, calendar number 13, C230309ZMK, calendar number 14, n two three zero three one zero z r k, and the matter of applications for zoning map and zoning text amendments concerning 7399 Empire Boulevard Rezoning. For favorable reports on calendar numbers thirteen and fourteen, Chair Grovnik?

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Vice Chair Knuckles?

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Commissioner Benjamin? Aye. Commissioner Cerullo?

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Commissioner Krall?

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Commissioner Dweck? Recused. Commissioner Gold?

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Commissioner Goodrich? Same. Commissioner Kramani? Yes. Commissioner Mann? Yes. Commissioner Manning? Yes. Commissioner Osorio?

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I would yes with the recommendation to strengthen the language in the report regarding the importance to initiate the study with community to assess the needs and opportunities to guide future development in the neighborhood or in the corridor. Thank you.

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Commissioner Ramchand?

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Favorable reports have been adopted in calendar numbers '13 '14. Calendar numbers '15 and '16, 166 Kings Highway rezoning, CD 11. Calendar number '15, c two three zero three seven eight z m k. Calendar number '16 n two three zero three seven 9 z r k, in the matter of applications for zoning map and zoning tax amendments concerning 166 Kings Highway Rezoning for favorable reports on calendar numbers fifteen and sixteen. Chair Grodnik?

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Vice Chair Knuckles? Yes. Commissioner Benjamin?

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I would like to vote yes on calendar number 15 and no on calendar number 16.

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Commissioner Cerullo? Yes. Commissioner Crawl? Yes. Commissioner Dweck? Yes. Commissioner Gold?

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Commissioner Goodrich?

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Commissioner Karmani? Yes. Commissioner Mann?

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Commissioner Mani?

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Commissioner Osorio?

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Commissioner Rampachad? Favorable reports have been adopted on calendar numbers fifteen and sixteen. Borough Of Queens, calendar number seventeen, 160 One-one Jamaica Avenue, ACS office acquisition CD12N250169PXQ in the matter of an application for a notice of intent to acquire office space concerning 160 One-one Jamaica Avenue ACS Office Acquisition For favorable for a favorable report on calendar number 17, Chair Gurodnik?

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Vice Chair Knuckle?

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Commissioner Benjamin? Aye. Commissioner Cerullo?

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Commissioner Krall? Yes. Commissioner Zweck? Yes. Commissioner Gold?

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Commissioner Goodrich? Commissioner Karmani? Yes. Commissioner Mann?

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Commissioner Manin?

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Commissioner Osorio?

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Commissioner Rampuchat? Yes. A favorable report has been adopted on calendar number 17. The next part of the calendar is the public hearing section on Page eight.

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Great. Thank you very much. I'm going to ask members of the public who are here to testify today to keep their comments at three minutes. And of course, we're very happy that you're here. Madam Secretary?

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Borough Of Brooklyn, calendar numbers eighteen and nineteen, Grace Houses, CD5, calendar number 18, C230 my apologies, C 240184 z m k, calendar number '19, N240185ZRK. Public hearing in a matter of applications for zoning map and zoning text amendments concerning the intent to acquire office space concerning my apologies concerning Grace Houses.

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Thank you, Madam Secretary. We're going to continue the hearing on this one, and we're going to open the hearing on the next item due to a scheduling issue. Let's move on to calendars 2020 to 2022, please.

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Thank you, Chair. Borough of Brooklyn, calendar numbers 2021 and '22, January. CD3, calendar number 20, C240399ZM k. Calendar number '21, n 240398ZRK. Calendar number '22, c 240400ZS Public hearing in the matter of applications for a zoning special permit, zoning map and zoning tax amendments concerning 109 Marcus Garvey Boulevard LSGD.

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Great. Thank you for that. We have an applicant team here that includes Eric Vilatnik, who's here at the podium as well as Brian Newman and R. Christopher Bramwell. Mr. Palatnik, welcome.

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Good morning, everybody.

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You go. It's green. That makes sense. Eric Palatnik, representing the applicant, and I'll try and be brief. I know you have a very busy schedule. We have a little bit to unpack here and I'll go through it through the presentation. I'll start off by noting that almost all of the questions that were asked by the commissioners during the review sessions have been answered in the presentation. So hopefully, we've addressed your questions. But if we haven't for any reason whatsoever, please feel free to ask us. It's myself introducing the application and also on the phone is Chris Bramwell.

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He's the Principal of CBEmanuel. And also on the phone is Brian Newman of Newman Designs. We're thrilled to be here today with a fully affordable where did I go here at the beginning? Okay. With a fully affordable development on Marcus Garvey Boulevard, it will be an existing in addition to an existing housing affordable housing complex already. It will include senior affordable housing, fully senior. It will create about two ninety two fully affordable senior housing developments on like the song goes, we paved Paradise and Brooklyn parking lot. Here, we're paving a parking lot and putting up a building. So there's a parking lot in the existing complex. We are taking that away and we are putting in a building.

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In its place will be additional parking spots as well. You could see here on the right side of the screen is the ask that we are asking you for. It's really two things. The first thing is an R7A rezoning. The rezoning is only to facilitate addition as much additional height as we could possibly get. We're not utilizing any of the floor area. We're well over on the floor area. But we're also asking for a large scale development. And the large scale development is going to allow the maximum height of the Ares Building, which is depicted in the lower right hand corner, to rise to a height of 155 feet, which is 65 feet above its 90 foot height limit. I'll note that there are other numerous very tall buildings in the vicinity and the community board is supportive of the application as is the borough president.

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When done, you can see in the lower right corner there, there'll be a total of five fifty nine affordable housing units on the property, which includes the two twenty seven new ones in addition to the previous ones, which I think are two twenty nine. Go to the next slide. This shows you the zoning map change. It's not very exciting. It looks just like the rest of them except it says R7A instead of R6. This is it again. And this I just went through, so I'll click right through. This is the money shot. This is showing you what the site is all about. It's called Willoughby Court Apartment Complex.

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You could see it as I described a moment ago. It's a six building development with affordable housing within it. And there is a parking lot on the right hand side, like the song goes, for 63 cars. It's underutilized. As you could see in the parking lot picture on the screen, not all the spaces are utilized and that's the case in real life. We've done a survey. But we are providing an almost analogous amount of parking spaces in the seller level of the new building and therefore everybody in the complex. We don't think too many of the seniors are going to have cars. So anybody who's got a car now is going to probably be able to have a car in the future. The existing development, as you can see right here, it's 130,000 square foot site.

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They're three to nine stories and they're two sixty seven units. The third bullet is the most important one. It was acquired in 2012 and rehabilitated using a senior loan from New York State Housing Finance Agency and using low income tax credits and also help from New York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development. The property holds a Section eight contract, 100% of the units and a regulatory agreement to HFA that restricts 93% of the units to 60% AMI through 2052. So this is an affordable housing development and it will be maintained as an affordable housing development.

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This is what we're seeking to build. You could see the right hand side tells you everything I just told you a few minutes ago. The fourth bullet being the most important one for your purposes, that it's at 155 feet, that is not allowed to be there. That's what we're asking your approval for. Two ninety two units, 63 cars and all of the tax incentives are listed in the lower right corner. We'd be happy to come back. The site layout is like this. You could see on the right hand side of the screen the existing buildings. On the left hand side is the proposed. As a part of the application, there must be a superior site plan.

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And what's going to be done to facilitate the superior site plan finding is substantial renovation improvements of all the public areas in the complex that you can see in front of you right now depicted in white. And I'll show you pictures of what we're going to be doing, but there'll be new upgrading to landscaping, to security, to lighting, to fencing, to plaza areas. It's going have a whole new surface area put in. The existing security system that's in place has been upgraded. The buildings are extremely well maintained. Tenant complaints, if any, are handled as aggressively as they possibly can be. And we do our best. The ownership does our best to maintain it very nicely and they're going to improve upon it. This slide shows you the heights of other buildings around. Remember, I'm here primarily asking you for one hundred and fifty five foot height.

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As you can see, the other buildings in the vicinity that provide affordable housing in one way, shape or form are all of similar ilk when it comes to height. And that's, of course, in order to get the funding sources that we listed a few moments ago, there needs to be an efficiency and that's what's driving the application. This answers some of the commissioner's questions about updated housing in the area. It's been almost sixty years since an apartment building of this scale was built. That's the top bullet.

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The second bullet is everything I spoke about, about improving the place and how much better it's going to be as far as the surface of it goes with landscaping and lighting and things like that, new amenities and other such things. There are not much other housing being built within the vicinity of this building. There is a huge demand, and that's why we're here. The area improvements, I'll skip through this a little bit quickly, but it's everything I just mentioned a moment ago. It's about 7,200 square feet of open space and all of this is going to be improved upon with benches and trees and lighting and playground, all of that, everything I spoke about.

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The Ares Building 2 will have within it supportive services for the members or for the people that live within the building. So the building itself, the new building is going to have supportive service space within it to service the people that live within the building. This is the courtyard between the existing complex and the proposed building. As I was showing a moment ago, it's all going to be really nice and state of the art and brand new. These are the sustainability features. This was asked, I think, by one of the commissioners, probably Commissioner Ossario, I believe. We've done our best to try to highlight everything. And the project architect is also on the phone, Brian Newman. He can answer any other questions you may have. Improved site safety.

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This is everything I spoke about before. I won't go through it in detail. The parking lot I spoke about a few minutes ago. This shows you what the building looks like. The AMIs are important to show you here. You could see that nine as I mentioned earlier, two ninety two units which will be available primarily to people at 60% AMI. Why errors? We could go on and on and on. This is one of the commissioner's at the review session. This page is just all about it. There's no it's simple. The whole page says, There's nowhere for anybody to live. It's incredibly overpriced. And seniors don't have enough money to pay the rent. And that's so laid in all the factual data that you could find in here that it's unbelievable.

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I think that the middle one tells the tale the best. Less than 600 dwelling units are in the neighborhood. So there's thousands of people that are 65, and there's only 600 units. So it's not a lot. This is the development team, and these are the plans. I'll skip right through to show you the height increase, which you probably can't see here, but the line that you're seeing there that's going through it just when it rises up is where the maximum height could be and above that is what we're proposing. We'll be happy to pause here and answer any questions you may have.

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That's Okay. Great. Thank you very much. Before I go to the Vice Chairman, let me just pose one general question for you, which you partially answered in your presentation, but I just want to make sure that we flush it out. The standard for us on the large scale special permit is better relationship to Street Superior site plan. Just spend a minute making the case for that in this context. You cited the improvement of public areas within the courtyard of the existing Willoughby Court plus I believe the space in between the proposed building and existing Correct. Is

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that argument? That's the essence of the thrust of our presentation to you and our justification for the request. In addition of course, the building itself is well designed and a handsome building. That's not what creates a superior site plan. Rather here, it's integrating the building into the remainder of the site and as the campus, really. And as you could see here on the screen that's in front of you, these are the landscaping plans. And we could go through it a little bit if you'd like. But everything that you see in white is being touched as a result of this application. So it's all being renovated and brought up to date. This plaza area that I'm showing you here is the plaza area that's being created between the two buildings.

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This is another plaza area that's being renovated. That's between the existing complex. You can see there'll be landscaping and planting and playground equipment. And this is more detail on the plaza areas. So I apologize for it being in black and white, but you could see a great level of detail has been brought to that. The other thing which is a superior site plan, should be considered by your commission is the security features that are taking place within the property. I get to the there we go. There have been gang activity at this location through the years. And that's a real concern to the people that live there. It's just as much a concern to them as having nice trees are.

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Some would argue it's even more of a concern than having nice trees. So as a comprehensive part of the application, what's being done is a retrofit of the security system. And that includes there'll be new lighting, there'll be new computer programs involved. Chris Bramble is on the phone right now to tell you. He has on his phone, just like we all have RingCentral for our homes.

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Everybody in his team carries RingCentral for the building. They all the buildings, they could see every public area within the building. They're in close contact with the police department as well. And their security team is very well trained to alert to any gang activity or anything that might be out of the norm. So all of these different comprehensive things that I've been talking about, the exterior, the security, the design of the building, the provision of senior housing and support services we think supports that finding.

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Thank you very much. Mr. Vice Chairman?

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Thank you. Eric, good morning. Good morning. How many additional units are yielded with the height increase?

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I don't have that exact number. Can give it to you in writing, but it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of about 110 units or so or about a third of the units. It's two ninety two units, so it's about a third of them. The allowable height is 90 feet, we're going up to 155 feet. So you're allotting about an additional six stories onto a 14 story building.

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90, I thought it was permitted. I thought 115 is permitted with MIH.

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115 is permitted under with you're correct. 115 is permitted with MIH, so it would a 40 foot difference. I apologize. I was reading off of the non MIH. So, it would be, again, somewhere in the neighborhood of about 100 units. We can come back to with exact amount.

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Thank you. I'd like to know that. Thank you.

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Commissioner Osorio? Thank you, Chair. Just a quick question. I'm wondering if you can with us your response to the board president's recommendation to explore shifting the massing to the north to reduce shadows on Lewis Playground and Saint John the Baptist Church.

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Yeah. The team has looked at moving the building. There's really no real way to move the building and still enable anybody to and have the open space that they need and still accommodate the program within the building. We haven't identified within any of our EAS papers that there's any impact from the shadows. Of course, there will be some shadows cast, but it wasn't anything that caused EAS to tip in one direction or another. And the community was aware of the shadows and spoke about it, they were okay with the application.

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My understanding is that these were listed in the EAS, though.

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They were listed, but it was not, of course, listed as as a reason

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because Understood. Know. Like, did not trigger and That didn't trigger EAS. But if if you can explore if there's an opportunity for it, I I think this would be important. Thank you for Alright. I'll address that. Thank you so much.

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Thank you, commissioner. Commissioner Mantel?

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Yeah. I was gonna just ask the same question. So is the public space in the landscape courtyard open to the public or is

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that Yes.

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It is. Okay.

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Got it.

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So residents of the surrounding area. Yeah.

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The idea is to bring in not just residents of the surrounding area, but really more for the the campus of this the buildings that are here. Everybody has families living there to make an expanded campus and to integrate the seniors with the younger people that are living on the property so that everybody can hang out together.

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Right. Then adjacent neighbors can use it not Yeah.

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There's no fences up. People people I mean, there is some fencing around it, but there's no gates

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on the Yeah. And I assume you'll have hours of operation then for that open space?

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Or The open space is well, the plaza area that you're looking at that we're showing both of the plaza areas are in the middle

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Of the building. So it's it's not so much that they're going to be locked off from people like a traditional plaza like you might think of in the sense of something in Manhattan, you know, where there's a gate that comes in at night. It's more like a plaza like I just walked through from Wall Street Train Station, the other one right across the street, the big with a statue in the middle. There's a white one right behind the building here. Gigantic Plaza you could walk through. It's more like that kind of plaza where there's no gate on it. It's more meant as a means for people to walk through the community and experience it.

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Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Vlatnik. Appreciate it. Let me move on to a couple of members of the public who wish to be heard on this item starting with Ricky Williams. Okay. And Idris Abdullah. Welcome.

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Good morning.

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Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.

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Name is Idris Abdullah. I'm a long standing member of the community. I serve on committee board three, land use committee. I am the vice president of the seven ninth Crescent community council where that particular project sits in the middle. But first, I wanna say this.

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I wanna give this board thanks because a special thanks. Because me sitting on the land use committee, knowing that that's one of the first doors that these projects have to come through, they didn't just have to come to us one time. They came to us two, three times. And every time they came, they came with exactly what we needed to hear. And for us on that level to be acknowledged by this board, to know the tired effort work that we put in as board members, as committee members, it's a lot of work.

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We don't get paid for it. Sometimes we'd be sitting in these meetings two or three hours, and we just be might not we wanna go home. We want but to be acknowledged by y'all and to give us the things that y'all gave us or that y'all give us is definitely, definitely appreciated. But thank y'all so much. Okay.

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So this particular project was one project that we sat down, and we went through it back and forth, back and forth. And it did come back, and they definitely came with a lot of the things that we had concerns with. One of the things that we did have the concern with was the security aspect of it. Because everything that happens on that that corner or that that line, it goes to the 81, and it goes to the 79, and then it comes to our text on our phones because that's the communication that we have with our presence. So this project would be a major, major asset.

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We if we we remember, that was one of the main areas where they they had the major problem with the k two. So this also would bring us a lot of attention, focus in that area to have that would have a tendency of keeping the climb down. That's one. Two, again, I wanna thank the team as they came forth with the plan, and they catered to everything that we needed. So we wanna definitely thank them.

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So we're looking at hopefully keeping the communication going on. So now from here, we would like to work with them in reference to jobs, reference to outreach to the community, in reference to making this project successful and us being able to move forward to make that area a little bit more safer for the community. So but, again, this is a project that we stand behind them a 110%, and we're gonna look to work with them all the way until the ribbon cutting of the inter the the entry day. But, again, thank y'all guys sincerely. Y'all gonna be seeing me a whole lot because I'm putting this on my agenda as a land use committee member.

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When I give my commitment and I put my support behind y'all guys coming through the door, then we're gonna make sure that the right thing is done. But, again, thank y'all guys for your support.

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That's great. Thank you very much. And, Dave, before you go anywhere, we're have a question for you, but I wanted to thank for saying that. And we will look forward to seeing you here often. And we appreciate all of your service to the community and to the city. So thank you for that. Let me go to Commissioner Kamala.

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That's basically what I wanted to say. Just thank you. Thank you for your service. I live in your district. I've lived there for So a long very much appreciate your service and all your commitment. So thank

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you. Thank you so much. And again, to the development, again, the senior citizen piece is a piece that we really, really need. So if there's any housing, our senior citizen, I don't know. I might be have to move in there when I turn

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65. Thank you, Mr. Abdullah. Appreciate it. Okay. Let me see if there's anybody else who wishes to be heard on 109 Marcus Garvey Boulevard. I see nobody else signed up. Okay. We're going to close the hearing on calendar 2021 and 2022. Madam Secretary.

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Thank you, Chair. Borough Of Manhattan, calendar numbers '23, '24 and '25, 01/1945 for Harlem. CD 10, calendar number '23, c 250115ZMM, calendar number 24, N250116ZRM, calendar number 25, c 250117ZSM. Public hearing the matter of applications for a zoning special permit, zoning map and zoning tax amendments concerning 01/1945 for Harlem.

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Great. Thank you. And on behalf of the applicant team, have Valerie Campbell, Bruce Teitelbaum, Tristan Nadal, Isaiah King and Lynn Doe. Welcome. Whenever you're ready, go right ahead for ten minutes. Sure.

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Thank you. Valerie Campbell from Kramer Levin, and we are Land Use Counsel to the owner. So this is a overview of the site. It occupies the entire western block front of Lenox Avenue between West 1 45th And West 1 44th Street, and it extends down West 1 45th Street. In the larger context, the 145 site is located on the Number 3 subway line and is approximate to many cultural and historic institutions in Harlem as well as the new Universal Hip Hop Museum in The Bronx.

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The total lot area of the site is approximately 68,841 square feet, which qualifies it as a general large scale development. The site is coterminous with the rezoning area and will be developed as a single zoning lot. Lenox Avenue and West 145th Streets are both wide streets. The 100 by 100 portion of the lot at the corner of 144th and Lenox Avenue constitutes approximately 15% of the total lot area and is zoned R-seven-two with the C-one-four commercial overlay. The CA3 zoning district, which applies to the rest of the site, is outdated, and it does not reflect the mixed use context of the surrounding Harlem neighborhood.

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It does not permit any residential development. It is a zoning designation that is typically used for automotive and truck uses and self storage. In fact, the only significant private development in the CA3 surrounding area in recent years has been the large self storage facility, which was erected on the north side of 144th 45th Street. The southern half of the block is predominantly residential. To the north across 1 45th Street, there are small residential apartment buildings on the western side of the street, but the remainder of the block is commercial.

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These photographs show the project site. It's currently improved with taxpayer retail buildings in poor condition along with one operating and one closed gas station. The northeast corner of the site is vacant. The vacant gas station site was temporarily occupied as a truck storage depot, but ownership discontinued this use permanently at the request of the community board ten at the first public hearing on December 19. So that shows that.

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There are four land use actions that were required for the project. The first is the zoning map amendment to rezone the rezoning area from the existing C83 and C72, C14 zoning districts to a C46 zoning district. The second is a zoning text amendment to modify Appendix F to designate the rezoning area as included in the mandatory inclusionary housing program. The third is a special permit pursuant to seventy four thousand seven hundred forty three to modify the heightened setback regulations of Section 35.64B3. This special permit is required because the proposed gathering space is at the top of the Lenox Avenue tower, and that is not permitted under the residential tower regulations to have a commercial use in there.

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The fourth action is a certification by the Commission pursuant to twenty six fifteen to allow an additional curb cut on West 145th Street. So the two curb cuts there, one will service the loading bay and one will service below grade parking. This slide shows the proposed rezoning of the C83 and the R7 to C14 districts to the C46 zoning district. The proposed C46 zoning district is appropriate at this location because it is a higher density district typically mapped along major thoroughfares such as Lenox Avenue and West 145th Street. The 145 development will be well served by public transit as it is adjacent to the 145th Street subway station and is along several bus routes, and it is one block from entrances to the Harlem River Drive and the 145th Street Bridge to the Bronx, with connections to the major Deakin Expressway and the Cross Bronx Expressway.

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The proposed C46 District within an MIH designated area will allow for increased density to facilitate the development of the sorely needed market rate and affordable housing in this neighborhood. The maximum allowable FAR for residential use is 12, assuming the maximum amount of affordable housing is provided. For community facility use, it's 10, and for commercial use is 3.4. In contrast, no housing is allowed in the portion of the 145 site, Zone CA3, and only 40,000 square feet of residential floor area could be developed in the existing C72, C14 District without any requirement to provide affordable housing. Next, Tristan Nadel will come up and describe the proposed project.

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Thanks, Val. And thanks, Commissioners, for your attention. So I'm going to go through the certified plan which is MIH Option two while we still are working on the enhanced plan. This is what's being voted on. The highlights here are an increase in the amount of housing over the 940,000 square foot development of about 100 units more than the prior version here, which includes two ninety one permanently affordable housing units distributed evenly throughout the towers.

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We've also increased the number of family size units based on feedback to 30% of all units, which is a 60 unit increase from prior and about double what a typical development of this size would have. We also replaced the civil rights museum in between the two buildings with a new community center, which will be a technology and innovation center of about 25,000 square feet, including 8,000 square feet of outdoor space. No parking is required, but we've still included over 40 parking spaces in the base of the buildings. We've maintained the rooftop gathering space, as Val noted, 30,000 square feet of Ground Floor retail and improvements to the adjacent brigadier general Charles Young playground. Wanted to just note here the kind of context of the housing being created here.

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We're creating over 20% of the amount of affordable housing that's been built in this district over the last ten years. And the ten years prior to that is even less. So, this is a monumental amount of affordable housing being placed in this area of Harlem. It also important to note that the incomes here reach about 60% of the constituents within the neighborhood. And if you carve away the highest cohort and the lowest cohort, it reaches 80% of the middle.

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This just shows an axon of what I just described, residential in the towers, retail along the base with the community center in the middle, and the rooftop gathering space up top. The technology center is something in response to a lot of feedback that we got from the community and stakeholders that they need safe spaces for youths, for young adults, and other community members. And we worked really hard to come up with this concept that includes innovation space, training spaces for technology and AI, as well as outdoor rooftop garden areas. Also wanted to address some of the questions that we saw come through from various commissioners related to access, traffic, and circulation, starting with the rooftop gathering space, which it's important to note can only hold 200 people, so there will be not any large conventions. It's for smaller to moderate sized gatherings.

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It has an entrance dedicated entrance and lobby off of 145th Street for pedestrians, which is near the three train stop and bus access on 145th And Lenox Avenue, as you can see, with dedicated elevators that are expressed to the roof. There's also a dedicated loading dock off of 144th Street, which is less traffic that can allow for deliveries, trucks, both for that space as well as commercial and residential move ins. And then also access to the parking entrance that you see next to the loading dock. Those elevators also reach that space for people arriving by car. We also think we've greatly enhanced the streetscape on 145th Street by removing 10 curb cuts that are currently existing, replacing none of them.

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So there'll be a lot more cohesiveness in pedestrian safety. Again, everything's been dedicated back there on 144th Street, which is a lot less traffic for loading and parking entry. And also just touching on some of the aspects of the EIS study, which did a thorough review of how the new residents would affect traffic, pedestrian safety and transit. And using both pre and post pandemic data, it showed that the project during peak hours would add the equivalent of four cars or 40 pedestrians for each traffic cycle and 20 passengers per three train.

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Okay. Thank you very much. If there are more core pieces of this, why don't you see if you can integrate them into responses I'm some of the just going to start off really with one. Obviously, what we have before us is an evaluation of a proposal versus what the current rules allow. But this is also the second time that this commission has seen a proposal on this site and we approved the last one. So if you can just give us a sketch of what is different between what you're presenting today and what you presented in the last go around, I think it would be useful for us and for the public.

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Sure. So I'd say the main differences are an increase in the amount of housing. We've removed any commercial office space that was previously in the plan. There's now nine sixty eight total units as opposed to eight sixty six in the original plan with the corresponding amount of affordable housing increase as well. We removed the Civil Rights Museum, which was a controversial piece of the last one, replaced it with a community center.

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Again, this is something we got a lot of feedback about as something really needed in the area for again, for youth, for young adults and others to be able to have a public space to go to that's both has indoor facilities, educational facilities and outdoor recreational space. And then we've also increased the amount of two and three bedrooms by about 60 units, again, in response to family sized requests from the community. We've also prepared a substantial community benefits agreement, which has many of the aspects we were offering in the last program, but also oversight commission that will be comprised of locals to oversee the execution of all the aspects of the Community Benefits Agreement, which I believe we've shared. And then those are the main, I'd say, differences between the two plans. There's some variation in the parking and exact square footage of the retail, but I would say

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Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Goodrich?

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to get a little bit more information. I know you mentioned that the amount of two and three bedroom sizes were doubled. I wanted to get a little bit more information about that. I actually was surprised somewhat surprised to hear that this is 70% of these units are going to be studios and one bedroom, and only about 30 would be two and three bedrooms. And the part I was surprised about is to hear that that's typical for this size development.

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I know that this was a very big issue for the community because it's Harlem and they wanted family size units. And part of people's fears about gentrification with these studios in one bedroom is just wanting sort of like, I don't know, students or not families. I wonder I just want to hear the process of increasing these units because to me, I still think that 30% is low because there's so many units.

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Yes. So the doubling was relative to other projects that we've studied of this size, which is that would be typically built. That's about 15% usually are allocated to two and three bedrooms. Three bedrooms are typically less than 3%, I would say, of a typical development. We're over double that amount on new developments. There's just truly the demand doesn't bear out for it.

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I mean, enough people who are applying for three bedrooms?

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Correct. Yes.

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Two bedrooms, there is demand for, and we've allocated I think the ratio of that 30% breakdown is approximately 22 to eight on two and three bedrooms. But that is, again, a large increase from where we started about 60 units from prior.

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My next question is the community board, they voted against the application. And one of the reasons they name is the height of Building A And B, and they want it to be a shorter height, specifically because they say that it may impact sunlight. And this has been coming up a bunch with our I mean, Coney Island is coming up next. We we just voted on one. And it and for some, it may seem like, sort of a minimal issue, but it it is it is popping up as a very content sunlight and shadow casting shadows.

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It is popping up as a very contentious issue among a lot of projects, particularly more recently. And I want to hear more about your work with the community. Because even the borough president, even though he approved it, also wanted to, you know, he supported working with the community board and all of their recommendations. And this was one of them.

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Yeah. And we have been addressing many of their concerns, we think, through the CBA. The height is a push and pull, obviously. We're trying to generate as many units as possible within the envelope that we have, which requires certain building parameters within the zoning envelope. We've stretched, I think, the buildings in a way that we can as much as we can in terms of planarly.

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And then we also completed a shadow study, which shows that the impacts the incremental impacts of the buildings relative to what's there now. So everything in the gray are shadows that you see now. Everything in red are shadows that are created by the project. As you can see, there's a small effect at the latest parts of the day in the summer on the park next door and then some in the water. But throughout much of the year, there's very little impact on resources.

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And this is consistent if you look in the EIS through. So while we hear the concerns, we are trying to accommodate the amount of housing that we're trying to create here, which we think is appropriate in a dense area with ample transit. And create also space between the buildings so that there's air and light coming through them.

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I think I think that's it

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for now. Yeah.

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You have more questions?

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Is the developer here?

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I'll wait.

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Okay. Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Mann?

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Hey, Tristan. Two questions. One, just status of HPD discussions around the enhanced portability option. And then two, just can you clarify for me the mitigation on the young playground? I'm not sure I totally understood what was being proposed.

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Yes. So we're continuing conversations with HPD. We've been working with them for about a year or so now on the enhanced affordability plan. That would basically effectuate a sale of the center building to a nonprofit that we've been working with, again, over that entire period of time for them to be able to develop a 100% affordable building on that site. Those conversations are still ongoing.

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There's kind of a they're looking to see how this process comes through. And but we are committed and we have committed to, as you probably saw with the Borough President and the affidavit there, to continue our conversations with them as this process moves forward and deliver those units in accordance with what they're able to provide on a subsidy side. Sorry, what was your second question?

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It's about the mitigation for the Shadows on the playground, the Young playground.

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There were so the mitigation there were no impacts through the shadows. There was an open space mitigation on the playground that we are currently finalizing negotiations with the parks to provide, but that would be an improvement to the children's play area along Lenox Avenue. There are other improvements being happening to the ball field, but there is a substantial renovation that would be needed for the playground area, which is what we're working on the scope with them on now.

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A follow-up there. Is that so

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contribution of dollars to We would

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do the yes, we

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would deliver the construction prior Thank to

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you, Commissioner Mann. Commissioner Sourio?

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Thank you, Chair. Thanks so much for the presentation for addressing our questions. I wanted to give you a chance to respond to the Borough President and the Community Board's comment on the need to mitigate future flooding. I know you had an entire slide with not just that, but also sustainability and energy efficiency strategies. Specifically, if I want to understand also in addition to coastal flooding, how are you addressing the storm water inundation risk on Lenox Avenue? And learn more about the geothermal strategies that you seem to be having in place.

1:18:39 – 1:19:0011

Yes. So I'll start with the resiliency at the building. We've removed any vital systems from the lower portions of the building. They've all been moved up to avoid any potential flood risk. We really only the kind of edge of our building nips the flood zone.

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But even regardless, everything is being built up above the DFE. And even further, everything below there is being dry flood proof, but everything vital is being put above that level. So that's the resiliency at the building. Some of the sustainability efforts that we're doing, you can see in this slide here. We've always aimed to be on the cutting edge, I think, from a sustainability standpoint in this building, highlighted by the geothermal system that we want to employ here.

1:19:33 – 1:20:1111

We've done extensive research. We've hired an engineer engineering firm, Salus, that is probably the leader in the country on this. We've done the test board down to 1,000 feet. It is viable. We found a way to fund it. So that is a portion of the project we wholeheartedly expect to do. In addition to some of these other things, heat recovery, snow melt, storm water recovery and then a lot of the other things you see here, which we would do on a standard building anyway, those are kind of the environmental portions that we expect to do. Do you want to speak about your question on, you said the Lennox?

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I think you've addressed them all. Mean, maybe as a follow-up, if you can submit in writing a section so that we can see where the mechanicals are going to go and where is BSE, know, design float elevation in that regard. But also, I wanna commend you on geothermal. I I would love I would like now to understand in full detail, you know, how much what does it really mean and how much of the building energy matrix can actually

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Yes. And it's be able to a substantial portion of it. We have a ton of information and data, which we'll be happy to share with you after the meeting.

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I would yes, I appreciate that. And as well as just understanding how is that interacting interacting with the potential solar and other renewables that you're planning to generate? Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

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Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Benjamin?

1:20:57 – 1:21:2212

Hi, thank you very much. I was hoping that Valerie would come back up. Hi, Valerie. I'm concerned or interested in the question of the enhanced program that you're suggesting versus the program that's involved in the application as submitted?

1:21:23 – 1:21:457

The application is submitted and the certified plan is what we are asking the commission to vote on. We are pursuing and that approval would also allow for the enhanced plan. But that plan is dependent on the HPD funding and those negotiations and discussions are continuing.

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So what we're voting on is The certified plan. Correct. So that is not having the entire building B be affordable housing. That's spreading the affordable housing between A and B?

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It would be spreading them to 30%. The enhanced plan would have in Building B. Building and Building B would be 100% affordable. And then Building A would also be, I think, 30% affordable with the MAH.

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So we're

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with without the enhanced, what is the total number of units? And is it a 40% studios, 40% ones, and twenty percent two and threes?

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It is I think it is 60% studio and one bedroom.

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It would be $9.68 total units, two ninety one affordable units. And the rough breakdown of that would be thirty percent two and three bedrooms, and then 70% would be one and studios.

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So that's the same in the basically, whether it's the enhanced or the There there's application as certified. Correct. Is there any way that you could take a look and give us more family size apartments?

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We can we can look further at that.

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That would be quite helpful. And I know you would prefer option two, but how would this change if the council decided to not give you option two and

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to give you option three instead?

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Option sorry. You're saying option three on MIH? Yeah. We would have to look at that, but that's not

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you know, the council has Yes. Done that. So I would expect you're probably already working on what that would mean, and I'd like to understand what that would mean for this program.

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We will get back to you on that.

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Okay. And you said you've been in discussions with HPD for about a year on different subsidy programs. Which ones are you looking at? It's clearly not Ella.

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Both Ella and a supportive option

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at 40%. Okay. Thank you.

1:24:320

Thank you, Commissioner. Back to Commissioner Goodrich.

1:24:39 – 1:25:223

My question before about whether the developer was there, obviously, wasn't new with your client. But I have a question because when this project came before, I was really taken aback because there were some news articles with the developer who is framed as threatened. The community, if they didn't accept this proposal that they would build a loud and unsightly truck stop. And I'm using that language from a New York Times article. And I just it gave me a lot of pause. And I wanted to know why you felt so comfortable making that ultimatum.

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I don't think that that The was

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client wanted to I asked. Sorry. Sorry.

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Do want to speak to that, Chris?

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Thank you, Commissioner. Yes. That was incorrect. So the news article was incorrect. No one was threatened.

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It says an ultimatum that the client if the didn't accept then it would be allowed an unsightly truck stop.

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The New York Times is not always accurate what they report. So I can tell you that was an inaccurate report. There was no threat. There was no ultimatum. In fact, the use of the site for a vehicle depot was done years and years after we initially try to get this project, moved forward. And as I said at the community board hearings publicly and I'll say it now in retrospect that was a mistake and I apologize for that. But there was no ultimatum given to the community, and that's retrospective perspective on what happened. We're looking prospectively. We announced the closure of that depot and I publicly committed that we would revisit that.

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Thank you. And I just want to say for the record, the councilwoman because I've spoken about this project because the councilwoman at the time, Kristen Richardson Jordan, she was raising several concerns and was And criticized for it in the I find it ironic that the concerns that she was raising, affordability, deeper affordability, more two and three bedrooms on the second proposal, those concerns are now part of the project that weren't part of the original project. So I just wanted to note that for the record because I've had a lot of people as a commissioner come up to me and raise this project. They've raised, you know, the power of a developer being able to, as is as I you've corrected

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it here, but as

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it says in the press, make demands, have maybe the mayor behind them and push out a city council member. And then that's it. If they don't go along with what's planned, then the developer wins. So I'm happy to see that the project comes back and it has all of these new you know, all of all of the things that the community was originally pushing for. I think for other projects, I think it would be helpful that maybe it doesn't have to take two and three goals, and it doesn't have to be this contentious.

1:27:37 – 1:27:503

But I wanted to ask you that because it really bothered me as a commissioner. And I really felt it was one of the projects that I just it really stuck with me quite a bit.

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Well, share your opinion about the length of time it takes to get projects done, so I appreciate that. Yeah, we've spent many years going back and forth with the community. We've spoken to all the elected officials, dozens of stakeholders, many of whom are here today. And you're right, we incorporated a lot of the concerns and the issues that were raised with us along the way. This has been a multi, multi, multi year process. And I'm happy that you acknowledge because we've done

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a lot of

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work to try and incorporate those changes, increase the number of affordable units, increase the number of family size units, be responsive to the community that I think is evidenced in the community benefits agreement that we provided to you. So yes, this is a collaborative process and we learned a lot. We don't have all the answers and it was a process I think that yielded a good result. So I appreciate that and I acknowledge that too.

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Thank you. Thank

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you. Commissioner, Vice Chair Nichols?

1:28:41 – 1:28:595

Mr. Teitelbaum, while we have you, what do you envision for that community space and such that assuming the project went forward, you don't have eighteen months from now vacant space sitting there?

1:28:59 – 1:29:4417

Yes. Commissioner, it's a great question. We've spent a lot of time talking to the community and to the various stakeholders in the community about that particular piece of the project. We call it Technovation forty five. It's designed as a place for the community, for young folks and for younger adults who can come to learn AI, advanced computer training, technology services. As Tristan mentioned, it's an open public space. It's really, really important for us. I've spoken to people at senior levels in the state and the city working with community members to design that. We think that based upon what we've heard from the community that is something that's very important to them. It's a place as Tristan mentioned where people can come, they can recreate this beautiful open public space.

1:29:44 – 1:30:2217

But more importantly, a place that we hope to house, a facility that can provide opportunity, for young people in Harlem, for young adults in Harlem. Green Energy Center by the way, part of what we want to do there. Green Energy as you all know one of the fastest growing, if not the fastest growing blue collar profession in the state of New York. Folks in Harlem are grossly underrepresented in that space. We've been talking to folks in Green Energy and advanced energy, AI, computer training, things like that. Commissioner Knuckles, that's something I feel very strongly about. I've spoken to the local council member about this and other elected officials. It's an important piece of the project that we continue to refine and work with our stakeholders on.

1:30:22 – 1:30:355

Do you know any other similar usage that is in existence that kind of represents a model for this? I don't. I'd like

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to take some credit or my development team who were terrific, take some credit for that. We've really done a lot of research here. What we found in talking to folks in Harlem is that what they want was something like this. And I really can't find another example. There might be. I don't want to say that we're the only people who are doing it. But what we're planning on doing, we think is so accretive to the community, would be so helpful and it will lay a foundation for opportunity and growth for people in that neighborhood. I feel very strongly about that. And I think that at the end of the day, we're going to create a model that can be replicated not only in Manhattan, but all across the city.

1:31:15 – 1:31:365

With regard to the greater subsidy levels that you're in discussion with HPD, Were that to be attained, it would be what the 145th Street Building? The mid block building, correct. Yes. And what would be the AMI ranges within that if

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you were to? I don't want to misspeak, so we'll get back to you about that.

1:31:400

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Vice Chairman. Commissioner Rampershead?

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Just one question. It was mentioned that the Commissioner Mann's question about the park. You said prior to TCO, you're going to deliver construction? Yes. What mechanism is in place so they know? Because that process is usually a long process with the billing department. Right.

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So can you just walk

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me through or explain this just to clarify that a little further? Again, don't want to misspeak. Let expert tell you.

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Yes, there would be a restricted declaration put on the property that requires a delivery in order to obtain TCO.

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Okay. Restrictive deck. Okay. Thank you.

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Great. Thank you very much. Thanks to all of you for the presentation. We're now going to move to members of the public who wish to be heard on calendars '23, '24 and '25. Starting with and I'm confirming Anthony Nixon is part of the applicant team, correct? Yes. Okay. Let's go to Katrina Acosta Pele on Zoom followed by Julius Tajadine here in the room.

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Hello? Can you hear me?

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Greetings city council excuse me. Greetings city planning. My name is Patrianna Costappel, and I'm a shareholder of Esplanade Gardens as well as a public relations professional in the community. I'm here today to testify against one four five project and ask the city planning and city council to vote this project down and for mister Teitelbaum to build as of right. I have witnessed the gentrification of Harlem within the last thirty years.

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Over twenty years ago, I attended a meeting called how sheep live amongst wolves. This was in this was held in the Schaumburg Auditorium roughly 2004, 2005. My boyfriend and I were the only African descendants in attendance. Needless to say, this was a meeting about how white Anglo Saxon people were going to live amongst black foundation population that inhabited Harlem for over one hundred years since the abolition of slavery. They talked about how black people would be eventually priced out and biding their time and to be patient with the process, smile and nod, get in before dark during the winter, and other skills to be friendly amongst the wolves for the sheep's survival.

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We were appalled. The instructor was visibly uncomfortable as he never thought any people of color would be in attendance. Fast forward to today, and here we have the plan attempting to unfold before our eyes. There are so many things wrong with this project that will disrupt the livelihoods of existing residents, concerns of the height, diminution of sunlight, urban island effect, noise and light pollution, carbon emissions. However, I will stick to the most obvious, gentrification, fair housing act, breach of constitutional laws, and the voting rights act.

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This project is unaffordable to any persons except white people. We have taken the median AMI from The USA census. And as of today, the project stands Asians, blacks, Hispanics, Latinos living in community board 10 all make under the necessary threshold to qualify for these apartments, leaving the only qualified candidate on the table, white people. However, this project is not set to be built today, tomorrow, or even next year. The earliest time would be at least five years from now.

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Right now, AMI for African Americans is at most 52,000 with Asians under 75 k. And if the AMI goes over 200,000, the income bands in affordability package will be 300 k for families of three, which in truth is market rate. These income bands would violate the Fair Housing Act because it affects largely black families. Right now, 60% of heads of household in Central Harlem and East Harlem earn 30,000 or less. 33% are at below our federal poverty level.

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Gentrification raises concerns under the Fair Housing Act, which prohibits discrimination in housing based on race and color. Gentrification leads to systematic excluding minority groups from affordable housing and could be challenged under federal civil rights laws. Gentrification Time? Systematic to discrimination and is appropriately impacts low income people of color potentially violating the equal protection cause of the fourteenth amendment. I'm almost done. When gentrification leads to to racial and economic

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Please please wrap up.

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Okay. So I'm just gonna go down to just say there are many large scale developments in Harlem waiting in the wings to see where this goes. The owners of Lenox Terrace are one. Harlem stands to lose its blackness if our government allows unconstitutional measures to go forward. This is not there's nothing unconstitutional about having time? Being black.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. We to end it there. I'm sorry. We have a thank you. Let me see if there are any questions. Okay. Thank you very much for joining us. We're going move on to Julius Tajuddin here in the room followed by Joshua Clennan and John Englund.

1:37:01 – 1:37:2027

Welcome. Good morning, you all. Preserve Harlem's legacy, the majority of black residents living in District nineCommunity Board ten and I don't object to development on the proposed site. However, the project calls for two buildings that will be four zero seven feet high. That's too damn high.

1:37:20 – 1:37:5927

The affordable housing component has income bands at the time the units will go to market likely in the range of 100,000 to $300,000 for a family of three. Triniana, she addressed that. So clearly, this project will be excluding many black families and households. Many of them live in overcrowded, dilapidated housing and deserve to live in new affordable for their income housing in their community. This project will trigger a slew of high density housing in the district that will change the voting power of the district's black population because they will no longer be the majority or have a healthy plurality.

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As city planning and city council approve this proposal, they will be violating the Voting Rights Act. Lastly, the project sits in an area that is in a liquefaction potential area. However, if an earthquake of any magnitude struck at or near the project area, there's a greater than 50% chance that the soil returned to near liquid because the liquefaction potential is higher in that area. Seismologists say that New York City is due for a five magnitude earthquake. It can strike anywhere. And the worst case scenario for soil liquefaction is very possible in certain areas of the city, the 145 area being one of them. In fact, the project sits in the middle of two faults, the Dykeman Street Fault and the 125th

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Street Fault.

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These two faults are among the five in the city, which are the most prone to seismic activity. This information was presented to CB-ten and it was ignored, which is not only preposterous, but very suspicious because the sources of such information are highly credible. The CB10 resolution amidst these concerns and therefore offers no demand or solution. But because one hundred forty five failed to do an environmental assessment on the liquefaction issue, the project must be put on hold. One of CB10's suggested conditions consists of an advisory committee that will have CB10 board members on it.

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Borough President Mark Levine claims to have entered into an MOU with a developer, which the community he represents have not even seen. This is not only preposterous, one is a conflict of interest and the other is illegal. These two opinions demonstrate that both of these offices are not acting in the best interest of the Harlem community. Because of the nature and importance of this opposition, I will be submitting a few more documents before the final vote, including a PowerPoint and other reports that I just learned of this myself. For the developer not to have a draft scoping hearing for this second go around is ludicrous.

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Because the knowledge that we get, like what I knew four years ago, I know more now.

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All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for being with us. And we look forward to receiving the additional information. Joshua Clennan? Mr. Clennon, are you here? Okay. Mr. England, John England? Welcome. To be followed by Ryan Geldner.

1:40:33 – 1:41:0916

Good morning, everyone. My name John England, and I'm one of the directly impacted residents as a result of the stop one for five project. My original address is 1985 7th Avenue, but this address is 121 West 1 44th Street, 1026, Apartment 3 B. And in in qualifying, what Julius was saying about the liquefaction and everything, about Sandy and everything, we got the tail end of Sandy in 145th Street midway up the block on 7th Avenue was crowded was flooded. Okay?

1:41:09 – 1:41:2916

As far as the community centers, we have one, Frederick Samuel, that's out of use. They haven't used it in the last twenty something years. I've been relocated for twenty four years now. And as far as HPD and you guys working with them, they're not even fixing up things in my relocation. I haven't had a paint job in three years.

1:41:30 – 1:41:5816

Okay? I haven't my toilet and my sink are stomped up now, and I'm trying to work with HPD to get them to come and fix it. So as far as back to the one four fifth project, I oppose it because 60% of it is not gonna be affordable. I'm on a fixed income like most of everybody else that lives in that neighborhood is on fixed income, and we just can't afford that the rent hike. We just can't afford it.

1:41:58 – 1:42:3016

And I don't know how they're gonna work as far as a museum. Why don't you put a community law library or or a a library period instead of giving us parks and things for the kids to play out in the street. They need to learn business. They need to learn infrastructure. Most of the people that are sitting on this panel can't read blueprints. I'm a retiree from local seventy nine, I know this. That's all I got to say because I don't want to beat the dead horse. I'd like to thank you for letting me share that, mister Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. Okay. Next up is Ryan Geldner.

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Ryan, are you able to unmute yourself? Ryan's a dial in.

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Yeah, I did too.

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Chair, we do have Joshua Clennon back in Zoom.

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Okay. So let's go back to Mr. Clennon, and then we'll see if we can identify Mr. Geldner, then we'll move on. Okay. Mr. Clennon, you're up.

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Mr. Clennon, you can unmute when you're ready.

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Hi. Hello? Hello. Hi. Good morning. Yeah. It took a while to switch over to panelists. Good morning, everyone. I wanna thank, the the commission for hearing this application today. I'm test I am giving testimony today, in opposition to the project.

1:43:34 – 1:44:2829

While I and many others in the community would love to see this site developed, And there are many, you know, aspects of the plan that I appreciate, you know, such as the the tech center, the geothermal heating, and things of that nature. The the primary crux of the issue with this plan continues to be affordability. As you know, there's not much difference between this plan and the and the the initial plan that was rejected previously, by our community. This plan, the certified plan allocates 60% of the units to studios, which fails to address the diverse housing needs of working families in the Harlem community. While studios, know, offer some, you know, some value and and there are, you know, community space and amenities associated with the project, Just many in our community are not going to be able to assess that due to the composition of the building.

1:44:29 – 1:45:0029

I also feel there has been some misrepresentation of this plan. The development team has repeatedly cited an enhanced plan during discussions, with the community. However, this enhanced plan is not a part of the certification process and is not subject to a vote. So, therefore, relying on this unapproved concept misleads the community about the project's true nature and its benefit. And it seems as though all the support regarding this project is contingent on the adoption of the enhanced plan.

1:45:01 – 1:46:1929

Although should the developer choose to proceed solely with the certified plan, the promised enhancements and by extension, the affordable housing the additional affordable housing they are promising, will not materialize. The developer is under no obligation to pursue these enhancements if the certified plan is approved by this body and the city council. The developer has also cited a willingness to enter into a a community benefits agreement, yet, we have seen very few details regarding, what the CBA would look like, its provisions, or the the the signatories that would be, you know, responsible for enforcing the CBA. It is crucial for us as a community to know, you know, which community organizations would be signatories, whether those organizations have a self interest in the process in the project as such conflicts of interest would obviously undermine the accountability and effectiveness of any CBA agreement. So, therefore, due to these in light of these issues, I urge the decision makers on this commission to reconsider the approval of the current, you know, one forty five certified plan until a more robust, transparent, and enforceable framework is established that guarantees affordable, family oriented housing and holds, this developer accountable.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Stay with us. We have a question from commissioner Goodrich.

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Hi. I have a question. What would the ideal affordability mix look like for you? I'm looking I see the tentative mix. I see the enhanced plan.

1:46:44 – 1:47:153

I've always said I too am not fond of the 120% AMI, which means you can make up to 6 figures for one person and be eligible for it. I don't feel like that's affordable housing. But I'm wondering what for you and what for this community board would a proposal look like? Because I believe this is over if I'm correct, I believe it's over the 30%. I think we're at now like 50% of the units will be affordable housing, which is much no.

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That's not the case for the Okay. Certified

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So can you give me a sense of what would the community board accept for this project for it to look affordable?

1:47:34 – 1:48:4129

Well, I'm I'm not currently serving on the community board, so I can't speak to them. But I would say for me, as someone who works in affordable housing, as a housing background and a and a Harlem resident, I would like to see a a more even mix. You know, I'd like to see at least 20% of the project be two bedrooms, at least, you know, 10 to 15%, three bedrooms, a decent amount of true one bedroom apartments, because, you know, we do have a lot of people in our community who who are single mep single parents, single mothers, who who even if they can afford a two bedroom apartment, would jump at the opportunity for a one bedroom, a true one bedroom apartment. But, studio apartments, this is not you know, we're a very family oriented community, that could work in, you know, maybe Midtown where you have a lot of transients, a lot of, you know, students, a lot of internationals who are here for for work and other reasons, but that's just not the Harlem community. So, we would like to see a more diverse composition, more balanced composition so

1:48:41 – 1:49:1729

you know, residents of our community are are able to take advantage of of of this project because, you know, we are a community that's very much in need of affordable housing. There's been very too little, you know, MIH affordable development done in the Harlem community, and we are not, anti development at all. We wanna see this site develop, but we want to just make sure that, developers are going to be, you know, good faith partners, that they're going to be transparent about what they're going to build, and that they are going to, work with our community rather than you know, sometimes it feels like they're trying to pull a fast one

1:49:19 – 1:49:423

So for the so for the two bedrooms, they have right now 23% and then 7% for three bedrooms. So I have a sense of you know, let me ask just about affordability. What would this is just my last question. What ideally would the affordability mix look like for, you know, for the community to upset?

1:49:46 – 1:50:2529

I think we wanna see a majority of, you know, a majority of the affordable units below below the 100% AMI. I think, you know, that 40%, 60%, 80% range, that is where most of the, the residents of Harlem, are looking for. We also would like some deeply affordable housing at the 30% range AMI, but that is the sweet spot. I think most of the the units right now are designated at a 120%. So that would be great so that we can get a more diverse composition.

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Okay. Alright. Thank you.

1:50:280

Thanks, commissioner. Thank you very much, mister Clinton. We appreciate it. Let me move on to Ryan Gelder, if he's there.

1:50:371

Chair, do not have Ryan. Okay.

1:50:380

Let's move on then to Sarah Penenberg on Zoom followed by Diana Blackwell.

1:50:521

Sarah, are you able to unmute your mic on Zoom?

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Yes. Hello. Can you hear me?

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I can hear you.

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Behalf of Sarah Penenberg. She had to step out

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of the meeting.

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Okay. Okay.

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Sorry to confuse you all there.

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Go ahead. Go ahead. Thank you.

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Good morning, chair Gironic.

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And introduce yourself. Introduce yourself too, please.

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My name is Theo Perez here. My, good morning to chair Gronick and all members of the city planning commission. Again, I am Theo Perez, and I'm here today representing SEIU local thirty two b j. Thirty two b j is the largest union of property service workers in the country, representing over a 175,000 members across 13 states, including tens of thousands of commercial property service workers, security officers, and residential building staff right here in New York City. Thirty two BJ supports responsible developers who invest in the communities where they build, and I am happy to report that the developers behind this proposed project have made a credible commitment to creating prevailing wage jobs for the workers who will permanently staff the building.

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We estimate that this rezoning will allow for the creation of likely somewhere around 14 or 15 property service jobs. Good jobs like these mean prevailing wages, meaningful benefits, and a pathway to the middle class for local community members who tend to fill such positions. Moreover, we need more housing to be built in every neighborhood of New York City to ensure that working families are not displaced by dwindling supply and skyrocketing rents. The proposed development will include 968 residential units, approximately 291 of which will be permanently income restricted for low to middle income residents. As the cost of living rises and working New Yorkers struggle to stay in their homes, it is more important now than ever to create affordable housing and good jobs which uphold the industry standard in the city.

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For all these reasons, thirty two BJ is in strong support of the one forty five for Harlem rezoning. Thank you all for your time.

1:52:490

Great. Thank you very much. Let's move on to Diana Blackwell followed by Melba Wilson.

1:53:021

Diana, are you able to unmute your mic on the phone?

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Yes. Thank you. Good morning. I would like to first thank the city planning commission and its members for the opportunity to speak. My name is Diana Blackwell, and I'm the president of the Fred Samuel Resident Association, which is part of the NYCHA RAD PAC conversion, which we have six of our buildings which are directly impacted by January.

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I'm here today to support the project and urge the commission to vote in favor of the certified plan. This certified plan will mean nearly 300 permanent affordable homes in our community that is in desperate need. I would also like to say, even though we're in this night shift pack, some of our residents are waiting to submit an application to move over there once it opens. The certified plan will mean that the by revitalization of the entire neighborhood, and it will benefit the entire community. One forty five will create nearly a thousand new homes for individuals and families across various income bands reflecting of the community needs.

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One forty five will mean jobs, economic opportunity, career training, and it will bring hope to a neighborhood that has been left behind. I do support the project because it will ultimately bring tens of millions of dollars and economic activity into the community which desperately needs it. I want to also just say that this developer has and is keeping their commitments to us and have and are just demonstrating that they are willing to be good willing to be good to their word. They're working hard to earn our trust, and they are and have been making significant improvements to the project as we express our concern. I would like to just conclude, say that it is incomprehensible that any project with such benefits should take this long to complete so that I'm going to say, I ask you to support and say yes as I support and favor the one forty five certified plan.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, miss Blackwell. Thank you for being with us. Melba Wilson is next.

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We do not have Melba.

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Okay. How about, Jared, Delaney?

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We do have Jared.

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Hello. Can you hear me?

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Wonderful. Good morning, everybody. My name is Gerard Delaney. Thank you for giving me your time today. I'm in support of this project. I am an architect and a developer. I think that we have a housing crisis everywhere right now. We need all of the above. We need affordable housing. We need senior housing.

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We need supportive housing. We need home ownership. This product is a move in the right direction. The whole point of the city of yes initiative was to incentivize to create more housing. That's part of how we address the housing crisis by both preservation of existing housing stock and create a new this project built using the certified plan.

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It's gonna be one of the largest development projects in Harlem in decades. And we built a project in A Hundred 24th Street. And, you know, I think that this is helpful. If you think about it, a young person in this neighborhood today that's 18, 19 years old, this is gonna serve them in four years from now. Right? How do we keep those young people to stay in the community for the future? We have to create more housing for them. So I'm in support of the project, and, thank you all for your time, and you have a blessed day.

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Great. Thank you very much. Maria Davis is next on Zoom followed by William Allen.

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Maria, are you able to unmute?

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Good afternoon. Hi. My name is Moray Davis, and I'm trying to put my camera on. Is it on?

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We we don't see it, but we can hear you.

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Okay. Great. I just wanna first say that I am in full support, and I definitely strongly encourage the city planning commission to also support and vote yes on this certified plan. This certified plan will create nearly 300 permanent affordable apartments, which that word affordable is definitely subjective, so we can all have a viewpoint about what's affordable. And this project will also bring almost 1,000 new homes to our community, which is desperately needed.

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The project will also create a form of economic growth and job opportunities within our very stifled commute community. Clearly, the project will become an asset and help improve the community. Thus far, the developers have maintained their commitments and their promises. And to my personal engagement, they have demonstrated their desire to behave as good actors and become good neighbors to our community. In addition, this project will assist in New York City's desperate need for housing and will also bring millions of consumer dollars into the community.

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The project will also create retail opportunities and a safer and cleaner environment on 1 45th Street. Please understand our Harlem community is saturated with government, social services, drug rehabs, methadone clinics, and homeless shelters, and other treatment facilities, and other forms of supportive housing. We are saturated here in Central Harlem, so we don't need more of that element. The 1 45th project will bring new business and positive components to our community. It is imperative that the city planning commission support this project.

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It's unconscionable for any of our decision makers to sit by and idly watch the area remain in a dilapidated and unsanitary state. As a native and lifelong Harlem resident, it is embarrassing and neglectful to allow this eyesore to remain when we have the ability to do something positive, productive, and hopeful and helpful to the community. And I wanna echo the chair sentiments at the end of this long arduous road to give shout outs and praise to community boards and those who make wise decisions in developing this property. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. We appreciate your being with us. Okay. William Allen, followed by Larry Nickens.

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William, are you able to unmute yourself in Zoom?

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I just did. Can you see me?

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Awesome. Thank you.

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We got you. We got you. Welcome.

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You know, thank you so much. You know, this this this kind of project is a long way coming. You know, when I when I was the first teenager appointed to the community board by Percy Sutton and now returning decades later, boy, we've had got some challenges. And the challenge is, unfortunately, sometime private developers are expected to do more than the government has been doing and responsible doing. And so I'm just proud the fact that these developers have reached out to the entire community.

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They struggle with a community board that that they wanted to fully educate on this process, and they've reached out to every single elected official. Harlem is in need of housing. As you look from Harlem over into the Southern part of the Bronx, you see a new Bronx. It's like you look across the water. You see, Emerald City, and and and it's almost like Harlem is being left behind.

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And so this is a very significant project, and and I'm just really so proud of these developers. They've reached out to everybody. They they have put affordable affordability at the top of the list. They've asked the city councilman, to reach out to HPD and others to make sure that the city government does its part to make sure this can become an affordable project, because it's very difficult to ask private people to write a check where often it is the responsibility of government. Right?

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And and so I know this is very challenging. I know there are some people that might be opposed to this project for a whole variety of reasons, but I I really believe that this is a project in the right direction. And I know that there is a lot of fears about gentrification. I'm concerned about that. Right now in Harlem, as African Americans, we're down to 41 42% of the population.

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And largely because we have not really truly been involved in these kind of discussions. And so the last couple of years, we now have began to focus on having these discussions. You know, up until the early nineteen nineties, the city Of New York owned, like, 81% of Harlem real estate. And that was also a chance for the community to have a bigger say in how what gets built. Unfortunately, when we didn't get David Dinkins back in office, you know, we missed that opportunity, unfortunately.

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But I I truly believe that now we have the right team in place. I think Youssef Salaam is doing an incredible job. Senator Cordell Clear, assemblyman Jordan Wright, assemblyman Al Taylor, senator Robert Jackson, district leaders, we've all been coming together, and we've all shown support for this project. We've all shown support to make it also affordable. And, we're hoping that the city planning commission do the right thing because we're in support of this project. Thank you very much.

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Great. Thank you, mister Allen. Thanks very much. Okay. Let me bring, Larry Nickens up, and then we're gonna try, Ryan Geldner again on on the phone. Welcome.

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Welcome. Is it is it afternoon yet? Good good afternoon.

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It's just barely. Just barely. On.

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Let me get my old eyes together over here. Larry Nickens, of course, I've been a resident in Harlem for sixty years. The development conversation is typically new, but the landscape and the progression and the need for progression is not new.

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wanna start by saying is we have to learn as Harlem residents to respect people's choices. As William Allen said, the educational part is important. So I've been here for sixty years and part of a collective of a 104 residents, parents, youth content creators, etcetera. We looked at the arguments that we came across in hearings and town halls. Brownfields, that was a argument.

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Environmental impact studies was a argument. As Julius mentioned, the trend line not what's the the language trend lines?

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me read from my notes. I'm trying to go without the notes. Environmental impact. One of the things that came up on the environmental impact side was the traffic at one four five. So we, as a group, educate ourselves, and we learned that post 09:11, the traffic at one four five wasn't robust.

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After 09:11, traffic subsided because a lot of people were working from home, and they weren't traveling into jobs. Long story short, I don't oppose the project. I recommend that if there's objections, we address the objections. We get to the bottom of what works for the community. But like the lady said, 145 is an embarrassment, and there's no way that it's an option to leave it in that condition.

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No one can justify that. So if it's the AMI splitting out here, we gotta get we gotta get after that. If it's about an environmental impact or is there gonna be an earthquake, we gotta get to the bottom of that. But no one can justify leaving one four five in the condition it's in. That's totally unacceptable. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Okay. Let me go back to Ryan Geldner on the phone.

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Ryan, are you able to unmute? Hello? Hi. Yes. I can hear you. Sorry. The phone

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is giving me issues here. So I just I'm gonna try to go quick. I oppose the build because of the scale of the project. I think it negatively impacts the character of the community. I don't suppose development, but just the mass scale, it seems kind of like they're taking advantage of the local community, like, almost exploiting the local community and a little bit greedy that it needs to be so large.

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Also, the runoff and the the grass on the local infrastructure, we build a brand new building, but the infrastructure is still not up to par with the sewer system. The combined sewer overflows is gonna be a lot more impacting the local wildlife, the migration patterns with the glass, and this need for bird safe glass, and kinda just taking care of not just the humans, but also there's other living things in New York City that need to be considered. And especially, think the local waterways and the impact that it's gonna have on the local waterways. And the like I said, the size is just kind of immense and doesn't fit in to the character of Harlem, which is unfortunately something that I feel like I'm just gonna say it. The community boards on the East Side Of Harlem have just completely sold out the air rights.

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And thinking about why those air rights were in place in the first place. And this isn't housing local Harlemites, and we all know that. Like, you can pretend all you want to, but this is new people coming into the neighborhood. It's it's not affordable. I'm a teacher. I can't afford to live in there. I wouldn't make enough money. And to me, I think I have a good job in Harlem, a respectable job. I have teacher friends that they didn't get in on the HDFC early enough, and a lot of them, you know, they can't even get in a house. So we have teachers, nurses.

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How many people in this building are gonna be teachers and nurses and people that actually work directly in this community. They're probably mostly gonna be people that are traveling downtown. And so since they're going downtown and the buildings downtown are already big, like, I just think it should be a more modest uptown feel, and and the 120% is not an affordable option. So and like the the people have said, you know, making a lot more two, if you wanna house people in Harlem, then you wanna house people in Harlem. But if you're just trying to develop and bring people into the neighborhood, that's different, and that's where all the gentrification comes in, and everything starts being more unaffordable, and it puts stress on the local community even though you might think it's like, oh, this is great.

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We're building all our stuff. I mean, we can look around and do a survey. There's a bunch of new buildings up over here where I'm at, and I don't think any of the people that are living in those buildings lived in Harlem before they moved into that building. So I just I'm just that's my piece. Thank you.

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Great. Thank you very much. Thanks for that. Okay. Next up is Sora Yara. And then I believe we heard from Maura Davis already, I believe. I called her as Maria Davis, but I believe it's the same person. So let's just confirm. But Sona I'm sorry, Sora Yara is up next.

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Sora, are you able to unmute yourself?

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Zora Yara?

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Okay. And assuming that I'm correct about Moira Davis, I'm going to move on to Rick Pipps on Zoom, followed by Anthony Henriksen here in the room.

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I do not have Rick

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out Mr. Hendrickson, welcome. And next up will be a Chantal Ripley and a Brian Dee on Zoom.

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Good evening. How are doing?

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Good. Thank you.

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Yes. My name is Anthony Hendrickson, Antonio. He called me I'm born and raised in Harlem. And I have about 12 or 15 businesses in Harlem. And I will have a nonprofit that work with a lot of young people and work with a lot of people who are system impact, justice involved, and a lot of them don't have jobs.

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And I hope and pray that we come to some type of resolution about this project, that we can work it out. Because I just wanna echo something that mister Nick said. That community over there, it just looked terrible where everything else is going good, especially across the waters in the Bronx. The fact of the matter is this, from my perspective and I and and mister Julian Barnes, I respect him. He's an elder statement of our community.

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Right? And and and we all have opinions in our views as respectfully. Speaking from the position that I work from with providing jobs for young people in the community and working with those so called gang members. And they come to me for jobs. I just got some jobs yesterday.

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The project will commit will create jobs where we could train these young men and women on carpentry, brick mason, plumbing, electrician. In addition to that, they will have a place that will be teaching them about AI in the community. Also, the economy in the area. It will bring more economics to the area that will be good for the business in the area. Right now, there are businesses in our neighborhood.

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And some of my businesses, it I had to close because there's no there's no movement. There's no traffic. So if the building is erected and people come into that space that can spend money to revitalize the economy and the community, and we can get those young people these jobs and these career pathways, and we can have a place that is safe and they can learn and we can qualify them to live in a building if it's affordable or not. They will have the knowledge to get the money they need to live any way they wanna live, and we won't be having these conversations. So I'm for the project from my perspective.

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No disrespect to anyone else and how they feel about it, but I'm for the project unapologetically from my vantage point. Thank you for allowing me time to speak.

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Great. We appreciate it. Thank you. I'm going to ask people just to hold their applause. Let me note, I'm sorry, to Maria Davis. It sounds like you are in fact there and that we have two people with a very similar sounding name. So, Maria Davis, you are up next with apologies.

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Good morning. How are you? Sorry I'm not on camera. But, I am someone that lives have lived in the community for a very long time. I'm a AIDS survivor. My children grew up have grown up in Harlem. And from the years of working in Harlem and seeing Harlem, I'm not against the project. What I am against is we keep getting these promises, and the promises never pan out for affordability. I saw all of the the the the apartments. I know the West Harlem is gonna do the affordable part of it, but they have not even gotten funding from my understanding when I went to the last community board meeting.

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There has been no funding yet for the affordable part of the project, the, one forty five project 45 project. And I'm concerned with that. I'm concerned with the train station. It's very small. The number three train is very small right there. How is that going to be opened up and widen? The park across the street, the people that are gonna come the community, like a gentleman said before, that does not live in this community. My daughter who works is at ACS. She makes middle income. She cannot afford to live in Harlem.

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The rental on 8th Avenue close to where I live is $5,000 and $6,000 a month. And, you know, I feel that Manhattan has Harlem has become a real estate town. Everybody comes to to build in Harlem, but nobody is really caring about the people that live in Harlem. And so I would prefer I would like to see a better better amenities and better, rent prices that we can afford to live in apartment. And our young people that have grown up here, gone to college, they cannot even come back to Harlem to live because the rent is too high.

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And so I I just feel that if you wanna come in the community, you wanna build in the community, you have to be a part of the community, and you have to think about the people in the community. And thank you for listening.

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Thank you. Thanks for your patience today too. Okay. Chantel Ripley is next on Zoom followed by Brian Dee, which may be Brian Darling. Okay. Alright. Chantel Ripley?

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Chantel, are you able to unmute in Zoom?

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There we are.

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Can you hear me?

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Hi. Thank you for your time today. My name is Chantel Ripley, and I am in strong support here for the certified plan of the 145 development in Harlem. I'd like to say that along with my daughter and her fiance, we both live and work in Harlem. And as we all know, Harlem is facing well, all of Manhattan, but significantly Harlem as well is facing a significant housing shortage.

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This plan actually plans to bring close to a thousand new apartments for individuals all the way up through small families and of all income levels. Clearly, the 300 affordable units are in dire need for more housing opportunities for current Harlem residents as well. As it sits right now, the property is empty. It's not being used. I can think of no better use for this land than to create new homes for New Yorkers from all diverse economic backgrounds.

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Obviously, an approval is gonna bring jobs. It's gonna bring economic growth, more opportunity. It's gonna increase pride in the neighborhood and the community by bringing safer and cleaner streets, which will also uplift the surrounding neighborhood spirits and morales. It's really hard to understand why a project with this many benefits would take this long to be completed and approved. So to wrap up, I just wanna say I am obviously in support, and I think it's time that we all vote yes and make this a better place for everyone.

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Great. Thank you very much. I'm gonna now call Brian Darling with the assumption that he is in fact Brian Dee.

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I don't have either Brian D or Darling in the room.

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Okay. Alright. Well, then we'll move on to a John G, John Goodell, on Zoom followed by Rhonda Hughes.

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John, you should be able to unmute your mic in Zoom.

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Yep. I'm here. Alright.

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Welcome.

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Thank you very much. Oh, you can hear see me? Yeah. I'm not actually in

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the We can we can. We can now hear and see you.

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Okay. Wonderful. I am a business owner for over a decade in Harlem. I've also worked there for over twenty years now. I am in strong support of this project.

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Not only would it bring in large you know, tens of millions of economic boom to the area. But it is, as a gentleman mentioned, just sort of an eyesore in the area. And it's if you've actually been and walked those streets, it can especially at night, it can feel this is personal opinion, but it can feel unsafe. There's just not it's it's just not an area that feels like the rest of Harlem. And and having a project like that would just and the amount of people that that would come there and revitalize the area from the community as well as outside of the community, I think it would really help to benefit the whole area.

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So I'm and just really in strong support of building building something that actually would put Harlem on on the map as a real place for people to wanna to live and grow. And I think the community centers for what the developers have done have seen this project over the past few years and the fact that they've worked with the community boards and have changed the plans over and over again. I think they're they've shown that they're willing to continue to address the issues until they especially with affordability. I've heard that until they're solved. But the the fact is that this project really, you know, should be moving forward, and already happening right now because it would it would help Harlem, and improve improve the landscape as well as the economic activity there.

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Another gentleman mentioned, there's a lot of stores that are just not not operating and or operating really low and probably gonna go out of business soon. And it's a shame. And if there were more people in that area and there was more housing for them to have, that this would, the you know, that would change. That's my belief.

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So Great. Thank you very much. We appreciate you being with us. Okay. Let me move on to Rhonda Hughes followed by Sarah Salzberg.

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Rhonda, you should be able to unmute yourself in mute in Zoom.

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Hi. My name is Rhonda Hughes, and I'm the strong support of the one four five project because it would bring jobs to the community, a new community center in the neighborhood for the youth and the community. And it'll beautify the neighborhood because right now, it does not look very nice down there right now. And I grew up in Harlem, and I'm always used to that area being active, more bright, brilliant, and just need to be something done in that area right now. Thank you.

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Thank you, miss Hughes. Sarah Salzberg. Sarah Salzberg. To be followed by Fatima. Sarah Salzberg.

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Hi. I'm Sarah Hold

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on one second.

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Can you see me?

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We can hear you.

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Okay. Okay. I hopefully, you can see me too. But if you can hear me, that's almost as good. My name is Sarah Salzberg. I'm writing to voice my very strong support for +1 45. I'm a Harlem resident, and I've been a Harlem resident for the last ten years. I live on 139 in Edgecombe. I moved to the area when my first child, who is now nine, was six months old, and I now have a second son who is seven. I also own a small business on A Hundred And 16th Street that I've had since 2011.

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So I I've been in the area for a very long time previous to owning my business. I worked in Harlem starting in about 2000. I support this the certified plan of January for a variety of reasons. First of all, personally, as a Harlem resident, I'm very excited about improvements to the retail landscape. We

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we need more quality of life services in the area. The neighborhood deserves that. Harlem deserves it. It shouldn't be that, you know, you wanna go to a a fancy restaurant or a retail store, you have to go downtown. Be nice to have those things in our neighborhood.

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Very importantly that I don't think anybody has brought up so far, I'm a parent of two young children, and I'm very happy to see a project that is being built responsibly with environmental health concerns for our community. My youngest son has asthma, and we spend winters in and out of the hospital because he has, you know, breathing issues. So I I think that it's really important to have construction that's responsible and takes the well-being of Harlem's youngest community members into account. I also wanna echo what many people have said, which is that I I am very fortunate to live in Harlem, but we are in a housing crisis that we haven't seen since the sixties. We're at a 1.4% vacancy rates.

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That's insane. There must be more housing. I think it is wonderful that this developer has taken the feedback, of the community board, of the community members to have 300 of those units, affordable. But I also think it's important to just have have different types of housing available in general. We need to have low income and market rate units to increase, you know, the vacancy rates and to offer permanent affordability.

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I think that this project will create hundreds of jobs, which will benefit the community, will bring millions of dollars into Harlem, which will improve community businesses and lead to better quality of services for community sorry.

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Thank you, miss Salzburg.

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For our support.

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Thank you very much. Fatima Cargbo. Fatima Cargbo. Be followed by Idara O'Too.

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Fatima, are you able to unmute and Zoom? Fatima?

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Going once.

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Can we move on to Idara?

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Idara o two.

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Idara, are you able to unmute and zoom?

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Yes, I am. Can you hear me?

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Good morning all. My name is Idara Oto. I'm an eight year resident and business owner in Community Bourbon Town where this building is being proposed to be built. I'm in full support of the certified plan. It's no surprise that New York City faces a steep housing crisis that feels quite acute in community board ten as we've had one of the lowest number of new units added over the last ten years.

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The certified plan aims to add nearly 300 affordable units that are desperately needed in this neighborhood and nearly a thousand new units, period. I watched this team listen to the community and willingly support an enforceable community board's community benefits agreement that will provide permanent jobs that are desperately needed in the district, ambitions to train youth in the green economy, build a a commitment to prioritize local business owners for commercial space, and finally, to build and manage with MWBEs. People like me need these types of projects to keep us here, quite frankly. I've heard many community residents talk about the affordability in the neighborhood. While I understand the gentrification concerns, I think it's quite reductionist to assume and believe that black people are not among the high earning population in this district or in this city.

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Black people in Harlem and in community board ten occupy every socioeconomic class, so it is incorrect to assume that black people will not qualify for both the affordable and the market rate units. I am a resounding yes. Thank you.

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Thank you. Gregory Christopher Baggett. Gregory Christopher Baggett. Might that be you, sir?

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That's me. Yes. Thank you. So thanks a lot for giving me the opportunity to speak. As the president of the a Philip Randolph Square Neighborhood Alliance, I'm here to express my support for the one four five for Harlem resounding application.

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This project has potential to bring real and substantial benefits to residents directly affected by the development project while meeting numerous community needs. Today, I wanna focus specifically on the critical need for an enforceable community benefits agreement and our vision for making this reality. I want to state clearly that working in conjunction with partners at the J. Max Bond Center, we had the opportunity to evaluate both certified projects past and present and develop scores based on objective research. And our analysis of the certified projects versus the what I call the hearsay project concluded that the new project shows a notable increase across several metrics and community priority measures.

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So to the community benefits, so there are about eight planks within the community benefits, and I won't bother to list them because they're in the documents that you have. However, these proposals remain largely abstract concepts that amount to little more than items on a PowerPoint presentation. My recent investigations in the community discovered a proposed expansion of a medical facility at the site that would have greatly enhanced the developers community benefits proposal had that information been shared during the two public hearings. Our community deserves and requires much more substance, transparency, engagement, and accountability concerning these benefits. I wanna clarify what a proper community benefits agreement entails.

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A community benefits agreement is a private contract between a developer and community organizations, not government officials. Under the contract, the developer agrees to provide specific benefits to the community while community groups agree to support or not oppose the development project in the governmental approval process. It's crucial to understand that the CBA is not merely a pledge, commitment, or any nonbinding deal or not even the memorandum of understanding.

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Thank you, mister Baggett. Thank you. Thank you for your testimony. I just wanna clarify that the CBA is not formally before us. It's it's just the land use considerations that

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we I understand that, but I wanted to ask if the committee would move that recommendation forward to the mayor and to city council as it was done with the borough president's office.

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We hear your advocacy. Thank you very much. Bria Mathis. Bria Mathis. Bria Mathis.

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Hopefully, I have Bria.

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Okay. I think we heard from Larry Nickens. Did we not?

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Yes. Yes.

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Okay. Shams DeBaron.

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Greetings to the commissioners. Appreciate your time.

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Sir. Afternoon. Good afternoon. My name is Shamster Baron, known as the homeless hero and the housing hero. I stand before you as someone whose life story is woven into the very fabric of this site.

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I was once a homeless child in Harlem. As a teenager, I slept right across the street in the park that is now called Brigadier General Charles Young Playground where this development is proposed. I spent part of my childhood childhood just blocks away living on 140th Street between 7th And 8th Avenues. This is why I passionately support the 145 development. Right now, there is no housing on this site, but there could be.

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This project will bring nearly 1,000 apartments, including nearly 300 permanently affordable homes to a community oversaturated with shelters but starved for housing. If we don't build housing, the alternative could be yet another shelter in a community that desperately needs homes. Recent data shows that a 146,000 New York City students are homeless today. In East Harlem, at least 2,102, that's over 20%, lack stable housing. In Manhattan, nearly one in six students are homeless.

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These aren't just numbers. They're children without a home. I understand the concerns that some in the community may have, but after ten years of pushback and redesign, 145 is no longer just another development. It's a community shaped project that now includes a community curated center. This is not a recreation center, so to speak.

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It'll be a space designed to meet the real needs of the people, a hub that'll foster innovation, entrepreneurship, and opportunity in a part of Harlem that has never had such a thing. This project also sets an example of how development should be done in communities like ours. A black owned development company is codeveloping the project, ensuring that inclusion is not just an afterthought but a critical piece of the process. It shows that large scale development projects in Harlem don't have to extract from us. They can elevate us.

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As one of the voices who fought for and successfully helped pass the city of Yesper Housing opportunity, I know that developments like 145 are exactly what we need to undo the decades of racist zoning policies that have kept community like ours from thriving. I ask you to think about this. When I was sleeping in that park across the across the street from the site as a homeless teenager and young adult, there was no housing there for me. Today, thousands of homeless children in Harlem face the same reality. They don't need another shelter.

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They need a home. One four five, there's a chance to give them that. I urge you to vote yes so that one day when I visit that park again, I can look across the street and see not another shelter.

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Thank you. Thank

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you, mister Hubert.

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Thank you. I don't know if my mic is working at the moment. Can you hear me? Is that working?

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I think I think they're working.

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Are we working now? Okay. Thank you, mister DeBaron. I just wanted to address my appreciation to you. Before you go, mister Goodrich has a question or comment? Yes. Agree.

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Thank you so much for your testimony. I take it you've been at the community board meeting.

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I was wondering if you could provide some insight. I have to be honest, I'm a little bit surprised that at the second go round, there's it seems like there's as much or even more opposition even with the changes that the community asked for. And I was wondering if

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you could provide some insight into what the Yes.

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Great question. And I also want

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to applaud

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you for bringing Bruce up the developer and and speaking to him. So if if I'm correct, that community board meet and originally voted like a tie. And then they had to do a revote, which one person voted against in the revolt, which sort of indicated that there was a lot of consensus between both sides, still some contention about certain things that had it where just by one vote, it didn't go through or didn't get their support. So I think sometimes and people talk about the educational aspect for communities, how housing gets developed. Right?

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Or what are the alternatives? And I think sometimes people, even if they're on a community board, they don't understand those dynamics. And so I always try to keep it simple and say, look, the choice is the housing or it's a shelter. The choice is the housing or it's a storage facility. And some people don't know that, and they make the choices based on not really understanding what they're choosing.

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And I think that was reflective in some of the members of the community who says and let me be real. I'm from the community. I'm from communities like that come up in the streets literally. And I can tell you from being in a community when you talk to real New Yorkers, real people from the community, No one wants to live in the same type of housing project or tenement that I grew up in. No people like the idea of mixed incomes and vibrant things. When the when I first heard of the project, there was this push for a recreation center. Of course, I said, nah. I know I know y'all think all we wanna do is shoot hoops, but you got a basketball court down the block. You got a recreation center up the block. We need something more.

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And when you go into the community, this wasn't a new idea. The community wanted that. But yet, you'll on the basis of people that are not informed, no disrespect, they'll make a decision that negatively impacts the community. That's why we have the city of yes. That's why we have to look at how these decisions are made so that we can make better choices because the ultimate people that everyone think that they're saving are gonna be the people that don't benefit. That is the people like me. That is them young people. That are the workers. That are the homeless people. If you don't get no housing, then you get that horrible piece of property that still exists.

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No one can go and take that property from the developer, and the developer has a right to produce something that will not benefit the community, whether that be a storage facility or a shelter. And what we want to do is find a way to bring more housing to the community,

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if that answers the question.

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Thank you so much. That was very helpful.

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Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Shams. Okay. Next up is Karen Paul on Zoom, followed by Adama Bah here in the room. And I will note for commissioners that your light may look red, but your microphone may also be on. So just be aware of that fact. Okay. That's a public service announcement. Okay. Karen Paul on Zoom.

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Hello. Can you hear me? Can you hear me?

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Hello. We can hear you, barely.

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Alright. I'll speak up. My name is Karen Paul, and I'm the owner of several small businesses in Harlem and have been for about twelve years. My businesses have become neighborhood staples, and I'm honored to be part of the Harlem community. I'm also a resident.

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As a small business owner, particularly in the wake of the pandemic, I know how challenging it can be to succeed. I've been grateful to receive the support of my community, and I've made it a point to hire locally whenever possible. One of the reasons I support the certified plan for January is its commitment to partnering with local community based organizations and creating over a thousand good paying temporary and permanent jobs. These opportunities will not only benefit those seeking employment, but will also strengthen Harlem businesses that are invested in uplifting the community. I fully support the plan, and I look forward to seeing this development come to life in Harlem. Hopefully, could hear me. Thank you.

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can. Thank you very much. Next is Adama Bah. Bah, welcome. Followed by Tanisha Grant, Abina Smith, and Idara O2. And if you have not signed up already and you're interested in signing up to be heard on 01/1945 for Harlem, this is your chance. Please do. Ms. Bah, welcome.

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Good afternoon. My name is

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Adema Bah. I'm the Executive Director of Afrikaana, a black led organization serving Harlem and Bronx community and community board member. I'm here to express my strong support for the 145 Harlem project. At Africana, we provide critical services to over 2,000 people every month from our space on 1 45th. In just two years, we fed over 153,090 people through our food pantry, addressing food and security in Harlem and abroad.

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We distributed twenty two thousand twenty thousand two hundred and fifty jackets and clothing items for people in need. We provided 1,200 in cell phones to help community members to stay connected. We delivered 800 strollers to support mothers and caregivers, supplied two thirty Thanksgiving turkeys and four fifty holiday toys to bring relief and joy to during the holidays. We supported black women's health with wellness program focused on maternal care, pregnancy and early childhood. We supported LGBTQ plus day space, organized ESL classes, educational program created civic education and citizenship class.

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None of this work would have been possible without Bruce, the rightful owner of this property, who has been extraordinary supporter of Africana and our mission. He provided our space at no cost, covered utilities, and ensured we could focus on serving our community without hesitation. Bruce is more than a landlord. He's a trusted, committed partner who has shown up for Harlem in real tangible ways. His dedication is clear not just in his support of Africana, but his vision for the 145 Harlem project. Harlem needs this project. We need housing. We need jobs. We need space for nonprofits like mine. We need to clean and revitalize this neighborhood.

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There's a strong community support for the certified one certified one forty five plan, and enough time has been wasted. I have known Bruce for two years and I trust him. And in the two years that I've known him, he has been nothing but honest and very supportive. Again, I support this project.

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Great. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. Okay. Next is Tanisha Grant.

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Okay. I got it. Hello. Can you hear me?

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Okay. Hello. My name is Tanisha Grant. I am the executive director of Parent Support Impairments New York, and I am one of the first organizers that organized against the a fifth the the first one four five project. I am testifying to say that I am in full support of Concern Housing and the work that they do to build and sustain affordable, affordable and supportive housing.

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I believe that if this building goes up, there should be two and three bedrooms. I also am born and raised in a community. I also have children. We live in multigenerational households because our children with two and three jobs still cannot afford to move out into the community that they was born into. I understand that we must have mixed housing.

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And, yes, while there are a lot of fluent and, you know, stabilized black people in our community, the truth is that most of the community are low income or working poor or on a fixed income like Social Security or disability. I am also one of the reasons why we that, the developers thought about looking at developing something other than a community center. So I have been here from day one. Again, I understand that we have to have mixed housing, but there must be there must be at least 50% of that housing where community members can actually, live there. So, again, I am in a support of this project with stipulations, and them stipulations are that concerned housing be fully a part of the project and be the ones who build and sustain the deeply affordable, supportive, and veteran housing.

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Thank you very much.

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Great. Thank you. Okay. Next up is Abena Smith.

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Okay. Yes. Good afternoon. I'm sorry. Took a moment to join. Hi. My name is Savannah Smith. I wanna thank the city planning commission for giving me an opportunity to speak. I just learned of this meeting a short while ago. So I'll just touch on some point.

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First, I'm going to start with the situation that was a concern about the truck stop because I did hear the commissioner ask a question about that. And so I wanna speak to that because I'd like things to be very transparent and clear. I wasn't aware of the article that the commissioner mentioned, but in regards to the truck stop and I do thank mister Teitelbaum for correcting that situation finally. But I was at all of the meetings, and I do recall it the initial meetings for this project. Not mister Tidalbaum, but someone who worked for him did make a comment that, okay.

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Well, we can just put a storage facility there instead. So at the time, yes, the tone did come across as as if it was that, well, if the community isn't in agreement with what we wanna do, then something will be done that will be punitive. And when the truck stop came about, it definitely was pushed back against. If I recall correctly, state AG, Leticia James, also, pushed back against it. We do have a high rate of asthma in the community for children and older older people.

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So that was totally unacceptable. And from there, I will also go with in terms of my position about the project, I like the enhanced project much better, but that's not what's up for vote. I'm also concerned, as someone else mentioned, about community benefits agreement being definitely binding if that is something that we can get with the enhanced project, and I hope that that one can come about instead. And in regards to jobs, people are mentioning jobs. That's important.

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People definitely need jobs, and people need housing. But it's also important that people are able to live where they also work and that they shouldn't have to travel from another neighborhood. So affordability definitely matters for a project such as this. I happen to be one of the daughters of a woman many years ago, activist, my mother, doctor Rita West Smith. She reached out and invited then sitting mayor Koch to our neighborhood to see the degradation of housing.

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And with that came building new housing, including Frederick Samuels housing as well. I see my time is running out. So the point that I wanna make is I would prefer the enhanced one. The technology center was the idea actually of a woman named miss Washington. I definitely would love to see that. And I'm also concerned with whether or not I keep hearing about mister Tidalbaum, his people are saying they have support of various people in the community and our elected officials. And so what I'd like to know, and maybe he can't answer it right now, is whether or not that the people who are supporting that are elected officials, have any of them received donations for their campaigns? Some are running for reelection and so forth because transparency matters. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Okay. Let's go on to Idara Ottu.

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We already spoke.

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Okay. My apologies. Sam Kiernan.

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Hi there. How are you?

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Okay. We've got you.

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Okay. Great. Yes. So I just wanted to say that I do support the one forty five project. I have been a Harlem resident for the past twenty years and have really seen how, you know, new developments and commercial spaces have really, improved, specifically on 1 25th.

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And there's been a bunch of new development projects there that have really improved, you know, across the board in terms of housing. You know, we are in an existential housing crisis right now, and so there is not enough properties for people to to move here. And the rents, you know, are kind of going crazy. So I really think that this is going to improve 1 45th as well as that whole block is really not only an eyesore, but it's, you know, it's it's desolate. And, you know, we have a ton of things right over the bridge in in Mothaven, and, you know, it really should be on this on this side of the bridge.

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So I am in full support, and I really hope this project goes through.

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Great. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. Let me call Charles Johnson.

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Can you all hear me?

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We can. Yes.

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Yes. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. My apologies for the outside noise.

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Charles Johnson, first vice chair for community board ten, Central Harlem. I just wanted to just reaffirm the board's position based on our resolution where it was we did not support and what and but we provided with conditions. I think just for context purposes, the the when it came to the to the to the meeting in December 1, there were particular questions that were asked by the commissioners that were raised and including those consistent questions that were asked from the developers during the time of their of their, proposals and our presentations, they brought to our attention this, I guess, a preferred plan that they wanted to go on for to go with. But, again, what we were actually voting on was what was submitted to you all. And based on what they actually submitted to you all last year, we were we were opposed of that.

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That's why we we we that's why we listed out actual conditions that were more detailed and nuanced. If they wanted the preferred, project that they were proposing and what they're what they're what they're trying to pitch to our our community, then that means that they should have secured that funding first, then gone to DCP, and then come to us. Instead, it was a whole it was it was not done in the proper, order as it should as it should, which is why there's a lot of confusion. But I wanna be very clear. The community had spoken about this, from multiple meetings, and there was opposition to this, which is why it's reflected in our resolution because we represent the community's concerns and what the people on the ground are saying, not necessarily individuals who have interest in the actual, project.

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So, again, Charles Johnson, first vice chair for community board ten, and I just wanna reaffirm our position, which was submitted in the resolution that we we say no to this project with the conditions that were listed in our resolution. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Okay. I believe we have a couple of more folks who may have called before and were not able to reach. Sora Yara and Fatima Kargbo. We'll start with Sora Yara, if she's available. And I will also do a last call for anybody wishing to be heard on this item, +1 for Harlem.

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Tora, you should be able to mute on Zoom.

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Sara, Yara, you should be

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able to unmute in Zoom.

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it appears the icon is unmuted, but we cannot hear you.

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Okay. Well, let's try Fatima Cargobeau, please.

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We're gonna promote Fatima.

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Hi. Can you hear me?

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Hi. How are how are you? Thank you guys for listening, and thank you so much for, I guess, just opening up a discussion. I wanna start off by saying that I'm a single mother of two small children under five. And, you know, I'm also right now on the hunt looking for housing, and there is none.

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It's very limited, and it's disheartening because I'm a person that lives here. I work here, and I feel like I I try my best to pour into this community, through various, types of outreach. And it's just it's just it's unfortunate that now, like, I'm gonna piggyback off of what other people have said, I have to now commute to, you know, the place where I've poured so much into. So I would ask that whomever is in charge of making the final decision that you guys just consider the smaller demographic here or the smaller people. We might be a large demographic, but the smaller people like myself who are single parents and just looking to, you know, live a sustainable, safe life.

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And, you know, like others have said, it will do nothing but beautify and create housing, you know, for people who, you know, are less fortunate and who are hitting below poverty or just need that extra help. Thank you so much.

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Great. Thank you. All right. I'm going to give a final shot to Sara Yara.

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Hello? Hello. Can you, like, can you identify yourself and before you start?

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Yeah. My name is Sora Yara, the lead of the communities at the 145th Tenet with them.

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Great. Please proceed. Welcome.

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Good afternoon, everybody. So we've been with this ten and ten with this project since 2011 until now, we're still there. So they are very, very good to to us during this time. Any favor, we ask them. They did the best to help us with it.

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The only thing we know about them, they are very nice people. And so I believe if they're able to get this place, it's gonna be good for the the communities, and it's gonna be good for the environment. And another good thing they've done for us, they help us to to to find a location. They support us to to find a real estate person. It's not only that. They also help us with financially. They lend us money, which is he was he was struggling looking for the money anyway. We couldn't find it until they gave us money. So they are very nice people. Yeah.

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And I supported if they can get a place. It's they're gonna be very good. Yeah.

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Great. Thank you. I'm sorry. Were you were you finished? I didn't mean to interrupt you.

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Yeah. I finished.

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Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much, miss Yara, for being with us. I I believe we have one one more.

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Yes. I think we've been rejoined by Bria Mathis on the phone.

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Bria Mathis, are you there?

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You should be able to push star six on Zoom.

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Hello. We can hear you.

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Yes. Thank you. I was having some trouble. Thank you for the opportunity. My name is Leah. I'm a resident of Espenald Gardens. And as you may know, Espenald Gardens is right there in that facility. As a member of the community, I feel like I do not agree with this project. It would be too congested. And as you may know, we have a bus depot, we have a train yard, and we have fifth building that is consist of Esperanal Gardens.

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I do agree that 1 45th Street needs to be revamped, but I do feel like we should create more community centers, more eco friendly gardens for the community, libraries for the children, something that doesn't congest the area even more that would affect the traffic, that would affect the health quality, the quality of life, and the just the overall health of the entire area. I do agree. Like I said, I do agree that we need to have 1 45th Street revamped. I just do do not agree with this particular project because of the congesting that is already exist, that we already have to deal with as a resident of Esplanade Gardens. So I do appreciate you for listening, and I hope you take that into account.

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Thank you.

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Great. Thank you. Madam secretary, I do not see anybody else on my list wishing to be heard on 145 for Harlem. Is that comport with your understanding too?

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I do not see any other speakers on Zoom or on the registration list.

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Okay. And I'm just going to do final call here. Going once, twice. Okay. We'll close the hearing now on calendar '23, '24, '25, January for Harlem. And we will move on to the next item on today's agenda.

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For our Brooklyn calendar number '26, the Coney development CD13 C250108 MMK. Public hearing and the matter of an application for a city map amendment concerning the Coney development. Notice, a public hearing is being held by the City Planning Commission in conjunction with the above action to receive comments related to a draft environmental impact statement. This hearing is being held pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act and the City Environmental Quality Review.

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Great. And on behalf of an applicant team, we have Jody Stein, RJ Michaels, Eva Schneider, COVID Saxena, Maya Way, Dan Kaplan, Sarah Davis, Peter McEnany and Robert Carnegie.

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Okay. Welcome. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Chair Gurodnik and Commissioners. My name is Dan Kaplan. I'm a senior partner at FX Collaborative Architects in Downtown Brooklyn. We are the architects for the applicant. I'm joined on here with the folks you just listed and Jody Stein. I'll describe the overall project, and Jody will come in and talk about the specific actions. Just a word about the overall applicant team.

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This is for one of the casino licenses. It's a consortium of Global Gaming, Thor Equities in Saratoga, as well as Legends supported by a team of consultants. Let's just start with the site. Outlined in red is the site. It's located at the gateway to Coney Island Entertainment District.

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Outlined in blue are the city controlled sites and yellow are the notable landmarks and amusements. Our project is rooted in the history and spirit of Coney Island. It is the birthplace of the Great American amusement park, the original entertainment district. In its heyday, it drew enormous crowds to the beach and to the amusements and spectacles, over 1,000,000 people a year. Gaming, complemented by entertainment, dining, and amusements, was an integral part of Coney from the 1870s to the prohibition era.

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The unfortunate tale of postwar disinvestment and neglect is well known. And through a concerted effort over the last thirty years by government citizens and businesses, there have been great strides made in bringing Coney back the glory of Coney back. While Coney's unique character endures, its vibrancy continues to be driven by seasonal allure of the beach and the boardwalk itself. The Coney project will transform the area into a vibrant year round destination, aligning with the long held public policy goals established in the Coney the special Coney Island District. This development will attract all season visitors with diverse entertainment options and amenities, creating careers rather than seasonal jobs.

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It will be designed to forward looking standards of sustainability and resiliency. It will complement the existing amusements and will create a compelling gateway public open space. Finally, it will catalyze long held plans to better connect the island for visitors and residents alike. Here is the overall vision, the ferry stop on your left, and then followed by the beach, boardwalk, the existing amusements, and the tiered entertainment complex stepping up and away from the beach. Our design inspiration are the iconic roller coaster structures and is grounded in the fine grained unique storefronts, exuberant signs, and really the overall particular great and exuberant design ethos of Coney itself.

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Go ahead, forward please. Yes.

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Here is a view looking west on Surf Avenue with layering of storefronts and signage at the first 40 feet at the base and then a setback. The podium above with its direct reference to the cyclone roller coaster and then the hotel set back further on top. And it itself has an expressive top becoming the beacon for the neighborhood. Comes alive at night. Kony is where many New Yorkers saw their first light bulbs.

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We wish to bring this tradition into the twenty first century through our design and make this an exuberant nighttime place. Here is the site today with you can see the Coney Island I mean, Stillwell Avenue terminal in the center of the slide and Stillwell Avenue coming down to the boardwalk and the beach. Our proposal, which I'll just quickly go through the numbers, really frames Stilwell Avenue and creates that connection. It's an approximately 1,300,000 zoning square foot project with 353,000 square feet of gaming facility, a 250,000 square foot hotel, one one hundred and nine thousand square foot convention center, 55,000 square feet of general retail, a 20,000 square foot of food hall with local vendors, 48,000 square feet of rooftop event space, and then 101,000 square feet of open rooftop space accessible and supported by 1,500 parking spaces. A little closer, the project expands the public realm by creating generous open space we call Stillwell Walk, serving as a gateway to the larger district.

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Where Stillwell and the existing amusements meet is an open access to the rooftop with escalators and elevators. A quick tour of the experience first arriving at Stillwell Avenue Terminal. The first thing you see is sky and architecture recalling the Coney Island spirit. At the street at Stillwell looking south, here is the gateway open space being framed by Nathan's on the right and the entertainment casino complex on the left. I just want to point out that this let me just go back one slide, I'm sorry that this bridge at the back end of the space is defined as a grand arch.

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And above the arch is a planted accessible rooftop open space. The arch itself recalls the monumental entrances to the amusement. This image on the right was just a block away on Surf Avenue. Biltwell will be regraded and pedestrianized into a single ground plane from the face of the building to face of building. Planting, seating, signage, and lighting will make this a people place.

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The one acre public rooftop will complement and be seamlessly integrated into Stillwell Walk. Here's a view an aerial view and here is a view as you arrive on the roof deck space providing views of the beach and the overall amusement district. I'll now turn it over to Jody Stein, who will talk about the specific actions.

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Thank you, Dan. Good morning or good afternoon, Chair and Commissioners. No longer morning. So I'm going walk you through the vehicular circulation on the site, and then we'll get to the project, why we're here, the application. So I'm going to start on the right hand side on West 12th Street. You see the pink and orange arrows. I want to note first that we took a portion of the applicant's property on the right hand block and made an additional lane for cars coming into the site and out of the site. So the cars coming into the site are going to come in, and they're going to go around the circular driveway. And then they're going to go up. If you're following the orange arrow, they're either going to drop off and turn around and go back out, or they're going to go up and they're either going to valet or self park.

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So they can valet and drop off their car in the circle, or they can go up into the garage in Self Park. From there, they're going to go over the Stillwell Bridge. And then they'll exit where you see the orange arrow on the left hand side onto Bowery and through 15th Street, and they'll exit the site from there. While we're over there on the left hand side of the screen, you'll see the blue arrows, which are for buses, which will come into the bus lobby over there. People entering the bus lobby can then go through the SkyBridge to get to the main portion of the site on the right side of Stillwell Avenue.

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We have the red arrows, which are dashed, which are for accessibility. So emergency vehicles can go through the pedestrianized Stillwell Walk and get through and to the site. They can also go on the demapped Jones Walk all the way on the right of the site. And then we have city and tenant vehicles, which can get through the site on both West 15th Street and on West 12th Street. We're having the cars go up and over Stillwell Walk to prevent any conflict between pedestrians and vehicles.

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Moving forward, I just want to talk a minute about transportation or transit improvements that we're proposing. So we're really advocating for a ferry service with we're advocating with local elected officials at Steeplechase Pier. It existed once. It can exist again. We believe in it.

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And we believe this will help bring people to Coney Island and not having to use vehicles to access Coney Island. We're also advocating for express subway service as well as we will be providing shuttle service from public transportation hubs such as Downtown Brooklyn and Manhattan and airports and places like Flushing, Queens. Employee incentives will be given out to use public transportation. We will be incentivizing all employees on the site to use public transportation. Off-site improvements include signage from the Belt Parkway and other local intersections to disperse traffic so that they come in from different ways.

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We will be changing signal timing and actuation, creating new turning lanes, and providing pedestrian safety improvements. Didn't get through?

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That's the time. So we're going to pose some questions to you now. And I think we have to start with the land use actions. Yes. Is our understanding that there are three city map changes that are being sought here. Bowery to eliminate discontinue and close West 12th eliminate discontinue and close a portion and allow the applicant to purchase a volume of air and then still will. Same concept as West 12th, change the grade, purchase a volume of air and discontinue and eliminate a portion. Is that a fair statement?

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That's a fair statement.

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Did I miss any land use actions? No. I did not. Okay. Thank you. All right. My questions for you relate to the access and the experience for a visitor to a future site that would include what you're proposing here. My understanding from the initial presentation was that the goal is to create an open space at Stillwell as a key connection to the beach, to the boardwalk, to amusements. And also it seems like at that point has an access point to elevators which might take you to the roof of the building. Is that correct?

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That's correct.

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So I'd like you to talk a little bit about how the Skybridge going over Stilwell has been thought about and how it might allow for a feeling of openness or inviting conditions. Obviously, SkyBridge is generally do not do that and particularly big ones present real challenges. So can you just talk a little bit about how you have kept that to a minimum if you have or if there are ways to minimize it further?

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So actually, there's two slides that I can

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show you to First of all, this

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is what it feels like under the Stilwell Arch. But then if we go to a section here, you can really get a feel for where it's placed and why it's placed there. So if you look at the Stillwell Arches just over the green area on Stillwell Walk, and so the first level is this gray level, which is the parking. We went through a lot of iterations for vehicular circulation on the site to get to a place where there was not a pedestrian and vehicle conflict. And so, looked at pedestrian bridges going over.

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We looked at going under. We looked at many different iterations. And we landed here with the help of the department providing lots of ideas for us. And that was with cars going over the Stillwell Bridge to exit the site so that there's no conflict. But you can see the height of it is the highest parking level that we have. So to go higher is difficult. It's been a bit of a balancing act.

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Okay. Are there any uses within the proposed Skybridges? I guess this really applies to either the one at Stillwell or at 12th Street.

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That could potentially be included in one of the main buildings as a way to increase the clearance or decrease the depth or impact the overall proportions of what is being proposed because I think that well that is that's really the core of what you're asking us for as it relates to this land use action. And so we want to understand what the precise need is for all of that.

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Absolutely. But I'm going to explain some of our thinking because as you can imagine, this is a very big balancing act here. And Dan can fill in where what I leave out. But I I explained the Stillwell Avenue Bridge, which has the parking, and that's basically at the lower limiting plane. And above that are casino floors.

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And then above that is the open space. And I think there's just less in there to kind of move around, especially trying to get as much open space as possible and connecting the levels. On the West 12th Street side, there's a lot more uses, I think you can see. So the blue is the convention center use, and the purple is, again, the casino, and then there's a mix of blue and yellow on top, which is the hotel. You know, that's this was really because the drop off ended up being in on that middle site where we're seeking the demapping of Bowery.

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It's really about getting people over from that site. They're coming in. They're entering. We're not having people stopping on West 12th Street to go to the building to the east to the left. Right? So they're coming in through that site and then connecting them through the bridge to where they need to get, which a lot of the convention use is on the building to the east. Yes, to the east. So that was really our thinking on there.

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So focusing on the 12th Street bridge for a second, which of course is lower and tighter than the one that's on Stilwell. The blue area that's on the slide in front of us, that is a convention connection between the convention the primary convention area as proposed on one side of the street to what? What is it landing on the other side of the street? And why is that important? Because it seems to me that the convention connection on 12th Street is the source of the crowdedness on 12th Street as proposed.

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Thanks for the question. Just to reiterate, one of the I think, best fruits of the dialogue and collaboration with the department was to figure out a way to get really the pickup and drop offs and the vehicular aspects that serve this complex into internalized and off the street. And so therefore, it's in the center of the center block. So one drives in, makes a right on 12th, and then a right into the internal workings, as Jody just said, of the building. What this does, of course, is allow free flow of pedestrians, especially on Stilwell, and takes traffic off of Stilwell.

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And in general, declutters the street edge with pickups and drop offs and vehicular impacts. So therefore, once you're in that center piece, you need to have elevators to go up and cross over into the main convention and hotel functions, which are to the left in this slide, which is further east and shown in blue on the base of the hotel. Okay.

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So if I understand you correctly, it's really a vision to allow somebody to come and park in the middle, walk across to the convention in the other direction. It's not that there are convention related uses on both sides. It is that there's parking in the middle, get out, walk across and do not need to reenter the street. Is that fair That's correct. And there

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are some functions on that blue bridge. But yes, in general, you're correct.

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Okay. Let's talk about the since I know we're looking at the specific land use actions of street mappings and discontinuations and things like that. But obviously, we're going to I think we're going to probably hear a fair amount about the broader question here. So I just wanted to pose that to you, although this is not going be the focus of my question since this is not the issue that this commission is evaluating or deciding. But what do you perceive as the overall impact of a site development like this one on the existing uses, amusements and others, there are some materials here from advocates saying that half of the amusement uses will go.

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Would you like to address that? Shadows, what will be the experience of a user of Coney Island who is not coming to a casino if such a thing were ultimately approved by the state process?

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Yes. So we put a lot of thought into that, right? So we have it's one of the reasons that Stillwell Walk is really the main part of this. The hope is to bring people in from, you know, either the community or the subway and take them in through through this 100 foot wide pedestrian beautiful area into the amusement and beach and boardwalk. The amusements that are existing on the site are not we there are none there are it's not Luna Park.

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We're not taking away any of the EDC area that amusements exist today on. Any local businesses that are on the site today will be offered a place to come back to the site. One of the main things is that we were able to with this circulation path, we're able to line the retail, street level retail, with food and beverage and retail to bring people in and through the site, not having to even enter into the site. And that's both on SURF and on West 12th and then also on Stillwell so that, you know, that they can have a family, you know, they can walk through, they can have a family trip that goes right from the public area to beach and boardwalk and amusement area. As far as shadows, I think that this particular building is very lucky in that it is an east to west type of building and so kind of moves with the sun.

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Of course, there's some impacts. This is, This is a building that is not here today, and so it's going to have some impacts. But I think they're not as bad as I don't think they're bad, let me say it that way. And is that answering your question? Is there

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any more that you're specifically looking No, wanted

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to give you a chance to address it. Okay.

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And then Stan and Robert.

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So I just want to amplify a couple of points, then Robert Courtney is going to add, talking about the uses. The intention behind this is to make a catalyze a upgraded connection from the subway to the beach. If you go the area that's being proposed to be demapped today is 100 foot wide dead end essentially acting as a parking a free parking lot. It's not welcoming. It really is it's in disrepair.

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And the idea behind this is that when you come off the subway, you actually have welcoming to the experience is welcoming to the beach, the amusements. We took care to make the arch high enough so that you could see through to the Arch Of Luna Park that was reinstalled and the EDC improvements. The other thing I would like to point out is that and Jody mentioned this, but the as we took one of the benefits of making the parking drop off and pick up and drop off internalized is that we're able to activate the entire perimeter or a great amount of the perimeter with storefronts. Those storefronts are also about 40 feet tall. They have signage.

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They have all of the Coney spirit to them. They'll be individual. They'll be local merchants. And then significantly, the building then that's back if I have that here. So you can see the base along SURF and the building above that 40 feet signage, it sets back 10 feet.

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So the idea was to create this lower scale, more granular, more picking up on the existing scale and texture of the amusements in the amusement district. We see it as an extension and an amplification and a synergy with the existing amusements. We are, like as Jody said, we're not taking away existing amusements. And then significantly, is year round, which I think Robert wants to comment on.

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Thank you. I think it's important to note that most of the rides and attractions are seasonal. So four months out of the year, I still don't understand how they're able to operate and sustain themselves. They would be given an opportunity to participate twelve months out of the year on that Ground floor. I think it's important to note also that the casino or the gaming portion of it doesn't begin as you walk in. It's on an upper level for safety and security for young people, obviously, that they can't enter right onto the gaming floor and also for the seasonal rides and attractions to be able to participate twelve months out of the year as opposed to four months.

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Thank you for that, Robert. Good to see you. Let me just ask you a question about that because I think we all see the point of the seasonality of some of the things you can do here. How are the how do the amusements take advantage of the building in the rest of the year? I may have missed that point. What is the thing?

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There's a hope, right, that we can work with EDC to create year round amusements coming up. I think that is what Robert was referring to. Right now, we've been in lots of discussions with EDC. And we keep them informed, and we keep them involved. But because of this process, they're not we are not engaging with them as part of this process.

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Okay. And then the last question for me and then I'm going to Commissioner Dweck and perhaps others. The 12th Street Bridge. If convention visitors were to come into that main building to park and they were to come and experience the streets as a way to activate the area and provide perhaps more support to ground level retail, How detrimental do you believe that would be to your proposal if at all?

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So I think it's something that we can continue to explore with this group.

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Yeah. The reason I mentioned is because that is a tight squeeze on 12th Street in contrast to which is a much more fulsome entry at the other point still well. Okay. Let me go to Commissioner Dweck.

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No doubt the traffic impact is going to be a big part of this discussion. Can you speak to me about the ferry post ferry service and where you are with that? And to what extent are you is your group willing to invest in that new service? And where will that serve from Which parts of this?

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Those are great questions. So we are really big advocates of the ferry. And so we've been can you find the benefits? Yes. We've been talking with the local elected officials about commissioning a study to prove that the ferry can work here.

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And we are providing a if you can't sorry. We are providing $200,000,000 in benefits as part of this license proposal, casino license, that we it's going to be in a trust fund. And we would like to part of this money can be used for that purpose if there's some upgrading that needs to happen on Steeplechase Pier to make this happen. Part of that money can be used for that. And then where would it service? We would hope that it would plug right into some of the other ferry services. It's just a stop on the way to the Rockaways and back and going all the way into Manhattan and other boroughs.

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How about New Jersey also?

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It's possible.

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You mentioned the study. Where are you on the study right now?

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We're working with elected officials still to commission it. I don't know that I have an update for exactly where we are yet.

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And would you be willing to commit to bearing the cost of that study so that it gets off the

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ground in a fashion? I

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can't commit to that to you now, but we can definitely discuss that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Commissioner. Other questions? Commissioner Osorio?

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Thank you, Chair. Thank you so much for your presentation, for addressing our questions today. I had a couple questions. The first one is, I was wondering if you can share your response to the Brooklyn Borough President's comments, conditions, as a matter of fact, terms of the public benefit, the benefits of the project as it relates to particularly reducing the volumes of the to be demapped and the need for additional ground level amenities. I have additional questions in terms of the coastal flooding,

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but I'll I'll I'll ask that second.

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Okay. Can you I'm sorry. Can you say the first part again that

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Yeah. Just giving you an opportunity to respond the Brooklyn Borough President's comments specifically.

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One was about

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the bridge, and the second one was the ground floor amendments.

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And so we did just get the Brooklyn Borough President's comment on Friday. And so we are still reviewing it and studying it. But this is not this conversation doesn't end now. You know, we have a whole review process ahead of us that's separate and apart from this. And we'll be working with him and that, and hopefully everybody here as well to refine as needed.

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Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Fair enough. I know that you just got them. If you can share additional comments in writing, that would be super useful. Absolutely. Absolutely. My second question is, throughout the materials, there's language alluding to the public benefits of raising the grain in terms of mitigating potential inundation impact. And from where I see it, there are important but not sufficient elevations proposed, especially where still will intersect with Wonder Wheel Way where you're not elevating the grade.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong. And so I was asking for a section to try to understand how do these elevations relate to design float elevation number one and two, Sandy impacts. Of course, my understanding is that what you mean is that by creating the bridge, you're actually creating a building above a volume of air where people are going to be able to stand in the case of inundation. But I don't see any type of emergency management provisions additional to or just in addition to creating the bridge itself. So what I was wondering if you can sort of like walk us a little bit through how do you see the public benefits in terms of building this to prevent potential flooding potential flooding here and specifically emergency management and or evacuation?

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For example, I wanna know how are you going to absorb that water? How are you going to provide opportunities for people to either shelter in place or evacuate? Or what's the plan for that?

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So I think you you're gonna get all three of us here. Yeah. But I can I can start? So if you're looking at, I guess, a map of the demapping area, which is right here, and you can see the gray changes here in red. So we had initially you may not recall, but when we came through our draft scoping hearing, we had actually proposed demapping a lot more than this.

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It was actually all the streets. So West 15th, Wonder Wheel Way, Stillwell, West 12th, and I believe that was it, but and the Bowery still. And as part of that, we were looking to raise the grade of all of those streets. But we received pushback from many agencies for that, and so we scaled back our proposal. And with specific to your comment about Wonder Wheel Way, EDC said there's no way they have a long term lease on there.

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There's no way we can touch that. And so, that's how we got to where we are with changing the grade on since it's going to be pedestrianized. And then I can have Dan speak to some of the mitigation Great.

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Just in terms of the grade of we are within the street bed of Stillwell where the demapping is being proposed. We are raising it to sort of a high point under the center of the arch, as you can see here, approximately two feet. While this is below the flood elevation, it will still help on days where there's not the flood elevation the flood at the flood elevation. We also are raising the ground floors obviously to above the DFE. We are providing on-site water retention and all of those measures.

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And finally, there is a place of refuge being planned on the 3rd Floor in the parking area that would be substantial. In terms of its square footage, we can submit the exact square footage and the population is expected to handle. But it is part of the plan. Finally, there is space on the Ground Floor for an on-site emergency vehicles to be hacked. So that if there is an issue with anybody either in the EDC sites or the public sites or private sites or this site, there would be emergency vehicles right there.

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I think that's

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any yep. Good. That's that's very useful. But I'm afraid we didn't receive much of the information that you'd that you were alluding to in terms of the water retention or the emergency. Is that something you can submit to Absolutely.

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We'd be happy to submit that to you.

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Okay. Thank you. And I'm wondering if finally if you can say something about I know that we're specifically today discussing this specific part of the project, but can you say something to help us understand what are the type of sustainability measures that are considered more generally in terms of the larger development? Of course.

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So the building is all electric. 20% of the electricity will be generated on-site, either photovoltaics or through the equivalent of geothermal wells. So we have a 30% reduction of basically electricity that's being generated on-site. Interestingly, the state request for application requires 10%. And we are exceeding that by we're going to 30%.

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The idea is that the heating and cooling of the complex is able to be defined as carbon neutral. And of course, that does include lights and cooking and things like that. But the main part of it will be the heating and ventilation energy will be carbon neutral with these renewable measures. Thank you.

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That's very useful. And if if you don't mind providing also documentation on that to understand what is the plan to that will get

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you there, will be very Absolutely.

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Thank you. Yeah. You're welcome.

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Commissioner Gold, did you have a question?

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I I did. Thank you. Actually, I wanted to follow-up on, excuse me, commissioner Osorio's question on the grade change, because there, I guess I I wanted to understand it a little bit more. Number one, it doesn't obviously look significant enough to, you know, reduce the ongoing what what I understand and and, you know, very consistent flooding, but also really to understand a little bit better the, you know, the thinking behind that task and how that, improves the pedestrian experience.

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So I think, both Dan and I can can speak to this. But the you know, I think because we were limited by Wonder Wheel Way, where we couldn't continue to build up, you know, and and we had to be ADA ADA accessible from Surf Avenue to to Wonder Wheel Way, essentially. So we, you know, we did what we could with what we had. There are there is a more detailed still well walk that we didn't get to that shows, like, steps that go up and ramping and steps that meet up with the 13 DFE of the building. But but really, those were just elements to get us up to the third team because we couldn't get there otherwise given this limited runway that we had for grading purposes.

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But we we did talk about wanting to do more. It just wasn't possible.

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Got it. Got it. And and as we think about it, I mean, just, because it's a little foreign to me, are there any potential unintended, negative consequences of of that change? Any that we can think of that we've spoken about?

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I'm I, you know, hope that it only makes it better, but Dan might have something.

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Mhmm. I mean, the the change in grade from the south side of surf to the center of the arch and back down is all within normal slopes that one would expect anywhere in the city. And as Jody said, our ADA accessible. So we see that it's really like a subtle grade change. And I don't think the average person would even perceive

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it as a slope,

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honestly. And also just reiterating, it doesn't get one all the way up to the design flood elevation, which is two feet above the flood hazard zone. But it does get you it does get a pedestrian closer to entering into those public areas of the casino where there's retail and access to the roof.

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Got it. Got it. Okay. Helpful. And it's helpful color to understand there are some limitations there. And then the second question, just to follow-up on the transportation question. So it sounds like the ferry is sort of a thought, but still maybe, you know, a ways away or not that far developed. I think also in the presentation, there's mention of Express Subway. Have there been conversations about some of the other solutions maybe that are mentioned in the deck? I mean, that that piece of it, I could see overwhelming the area. So just any color you can add there.

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We have had conversations with MTA. We know that there is and there was an express line that did function. And so we are working with elected officials and the MTA, but we are still in talks on this. That's really all the information I have for that.

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Got it. Got it. Okay. Thank you.

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Of course.

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Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Kramani?

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Hi. Thank you. I guess they're off, but on. So just a question. Coney Island is also home to a number of NYCHA public housing high rises, a lot of public housing residents who have been there for a long time. And I'm curious what benefits, if any, you have thought about. And also, have you had direct conversations with public housing residents? What is the prolonged engagement arc with those residents and then with NYCHA itself and potential benefits.

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Great. Yes to all of that. So, we will be submitting to you over 600 letters directly from these local NYCHA residents that are supportive to this project. Part I didn't get to is this project is going to create 4,500 union construction jobs, over 4,000 permanent gaming and hospitality jobs. We have a local hiring preference.

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We plan on having local training programs at the local NYCHA, and keep using local, at the job fairs and training programs at the NYCHA houses. We are in partnerships with local high schools, colleges, culinary institutions to provide training programs as well, as well as a pipeline direct to employment, internships, scholarship opportunities, grants. We have been very much on-site. In fact, Robert can speak a little more to that.

3:43:30 – 3:44:0061

Yeah. To Jody's point, we've met with every single Tenant Association president countless times. There may be actually some in the room who will be testifying as to the commitment on the Coney to be there for them past, present and future. We've created programs over the summer that have engaged young people in all of those housing developments and intend to do that going forward. So we've done a great deal of outreach and continue to do outreach.

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I personally was in the housing developments as late as last week, just trying to meet the needs currently and in the future for NYCHA developments. And she mentioned the jobs, which is only a piece. There's a federal program called the Section three program that we intend to exercise to make sure that they can actually those small business owners that are there. So not just the jobs, but the small business opportunities in conjunction with the federal government through the Section three program to make sure that they are a part

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of this.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Commissioner. To round us out, final question from Commissioner Osorio, and then we're going to go to members of the public.

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Thank you, Chair. More than a question, I just have a comment. I mean, the building on Commissioner Carmani's question, I'm still not clear what are the benefits to the community that the project is building in terms of flood resiliency. For example, I

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expecting something that you could offer given the fact that you're improving and building a significant amount of infrastructure here opportunities for the NYCHA residents in case of severe weather. And so as you continue to further develop this, I would appreciate if you can give some thought to what is the substantial benefit that we're building in this case. Otherwise, I think it's really complicated to be building in such a vulnerable place.

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I really appreciate that comment. And I do want to say that there will be community space and like flex space within the convention area. But we will work on that and provide you with something in writing.

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Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. And thank you very much the applicant team for your presentation. We have a number of people here to testify on this application. We're going go to them now. First up will be Jenny Hernandez followed by Marissa Solomon. I believe both of them are here in the room. And then we have Astridge McLean on Zoom. Welcome.

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Yes. Good afternoon. My name is Jenny Hernandez. I'm a longtime resident of Coney Island. I basically grew up there. Coney Island is my home. Today, I'm here to ask the Department of City Planning to reject the demapping of our streets. Traffic is a major issue in Coney Island. How will emergency vehicles be able to enter or exit the area with the anticipated influx of over 23,000 visitors that this casino is expected to bring each day, over 34,000 on the weekends. And year round, what is now a seasonal threat will become a threat year round.

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I have not shared this before, but I suffer from several health conditions, including vertical high blood pressure and an aneurysm near my spleen. I am extremely concerned for my safety and that of my neighbors, many of whom face health challenges that are even more severe than mine. This situation is the last thing we need. Our well-being should be top priority. Coney Island is not just a tourist destination, it is a home to many families.

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We must prioritize the residents of Coney Island, families first, children's first, seniors first, individuals with disabilities first. Disney mapping along with the associated casino project will only create chaos in our community. And thank you so much for letting me share. I hope that my testimony will be taken seriously and considered. Thank you Thanks.

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It will. We appreciate you being here. Okay. Marissa Solomon?

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Hello. My name is Marissa Solomon. I live right across the street from the proposed casino site in Luna Park Houses, one of the largest Mitchell Lama developments in New York state. And I just want to point out first how the casino billionaire and the developers here, how they have cynically tried to create an illusion of community support by hiring former councilman like Robert Cornegie. And they're going to NYCHA developments that are a mile, two miles away from the proposed casino site, but there has not been one phone call, not a single bit of outreach to the people who live right across the street.

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I wanted to point that out. The casino developers are also claiming that the de mapping in the streets in the amusement area will enhance the Coney Island economy and create jobs. However, this is not true. De mapping the streets will hurt the economy of Coney Island, resulting in fewer jobs in the area. This will happen because the street to mapping will bring an incredible increase in traffic, noise, pollution, and crime to the thousands of people who live right across the street from the proposed casino site.

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When that happens, those who can afford to move away from the area will. And the dollars they spend in local stores will move with them, causing local businesses to lose customers and many will lay off workers and close. This is exactly what happened in Atlantic City. People who could afford to move left and many non casino businesses closed. Today, Atlantic City doesn't even have its own supermarket.

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The other benefits the casino developers are promising are also false. They're claiming that they're going to build storm resiliency. But this will only benefit the casino complex sitting safely upon its hill while causing more runoff to affect the rest of the area, including the place where I live. The street to mapping will also cause traffic to increase to unsafe and intolerable levels, creating every street that I have to cross to get into my development will become an area of high traffic impact, putting the local residents at risk, many of whom are elderly at severe risk of injury or death. It will prevent ambulances from reaching our apartments.

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This was the traffic on July 4. Tell me how we're gonna live with this twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. You are gonna drive people out of the neighborhood. You are gonna actually extend the area of impoverishment in Coney Island. You are not gonna reduce it. You are also gonna be reducing historic views that people have enjoyed for generations. When people ride the train, now they come. They see the Wonder Wheel. They see the cyclone. They see the beach, the boardwalk.

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They will see a wall of casinos. When people ride the Wonder Wheel, they see all the way from New Jersey to to the Verrazano Bridge to Manhattan. They will be looking inside somebody's hotel room. The the economic damage that will cause to the neighborhood is incalculable. You'll be destroying the entire culture and one hundred and fifty year history of Coney Island, replacing the one and only Coney Island with just another casino. We have a million casinos in a million places. Only so many people like to gamble. You're just dividing the same pie into smaller pieces. You're not creating any economic benefit for the community. You will be destroying the community.

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You'll be destroying Coney Island. You'll be destroying New York City history. That is not what elected officials are to do. You're supposed to be representing the people We in the have over 8,000 people have signed.

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Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Okay. Let's go to Astridge on Zoom followed by Angela Kravchenko on Zoom.

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Can you hear me? I'm not sure. Can you hear me?

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Okay. Great. I'm sorry. I had to run back to Coney Island. I'm gonna kinda go off script here. I listened to very carefully of what the developer was saying. And one of the issues that I have and and I see it right now is the the problem consideration, the amount of different event that happens in Coney Island during the summer. I know that they had someone there that said they they they talked about the most worst condition. We have I'm looking at where the buses are supposed to be turning. We not only have that on a summer sorry.

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This is Connie. On a summer day, not only do we have would have their buses, we have to deal with the transit buses, we have buses that come to the the stadium. There are time where we have events for kids. They have like 15 to 20 buses at the same time. We have three avenues and to one entry and exit points only.

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And yet you wanna bring more traffic and more. And when people come to Coney Island, yes, I understand there's a hope to bring in the ferry. I hope so too. But when people come in, they're coming in and they're loaded. We have problems right now where in all the way back down to 37th Street, we sometime have congestion.

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We cannot used to take a times take against this. The community, there are a lot of and you have there in about Everybody is focusing on a bunch of people, but they are

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Miss McLean, I I wanna just note

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here. We're having a little difficulty hearing you. I'm gonna pause the clock. I'm gonna pause the clock for Can

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you hear me now? Is it better?

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Yeah. Why don't you yeah. We're gonna we're gonna reset you to a minute and a half and or two minutes, whatever we're able to do here. And but if you're in a place where you have good service, stay there because we wanna hear what you have to say.

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I'm sorry, but I just can't hear you. I'm if I take

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my Okay.

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What's going on?

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Okay. Can you hear us now?

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Yes. I can hear you now. So I can Please

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please proceed.

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Okay. Like I was saying, we have one family homes that's that's around 37 near near Seagate. A lot of my neighbors do opposes the casino. And the reason they opposes the casino, just like everybody else, they are worried about their property taxes. They're worried about their safety. They're worried about when there's an emergency. Can they get out? And in the summer in the summer months, there was an event here where we had on July 4, never forget, we had the stadium and we had the the Nathan's. People who live further out West was actually turned away from going back to their homes so that they can alleviate the amount of congestion that comes in to the community. They had to go out.

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One family told me it took them an hour and a half to come back in. So besides the other issues that casino face and and that's and one of the other questions I do have is for the developer is what happens if you fail? I just read an article just the other day that says that gambling, iGambling, iGames is outpacing brick and mortar for the casinos. What happens when you fail? Is that that we're gonna have an a building, an empty building doing nothing?

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I said these are the things that we we we have to we have to look at. But like I said, since this is about planning, the biggest issue that I have is that I don't see where the congestion where whatever they they stated that how they would try to alleviate that problem is gonna be alleviated. Even even just a little bit of of construction causes chaos in this community. So I hope when you when you sit down and look at that, that that is an important part of your decision making. Thank you.

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Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. Next up is Angela Krabchenko followed by Steven Dema.

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Angela, are you able to unmute in Zoom?

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Hello, everyone. Can you hear me?

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Oh, okay. Great. Good afternoon. My name is Angela I'm a long time resident in Coney Island, and I'm living across the street of this development, along with 3,000 people in our development. And I can testify that nobody reached out to us. Nobody talked to us. So whenever the whenever the developers are saying that they reach out to everyone, yes, they did. To everyone who lives at least a mile away. Not to the people across the street. So the traffic, why would I say, please, I'm strongly opposed to the mapping.

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And I'm saying, please do not allow that goes on because it will impact traffic and accessibility. The proposed mapping would have very severe would impact severe traffic problem in our neighborhood. As documented by their own study, it will impact 45 intersections during the peak hours, during the hours when children come in from school. Our peninsula has limited access point to the mainland. And during the weekends, holidays, and summer months, residents already struggle with the gridlock and can turn ten minute trip into two hours ordeal.

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Emergency vehicle access is a life or death concern. The sixties percent and f t and y facilities on the West 8th Street already face such severe congestion that police must sometimes close streets just to allow emergency vehicle to exit. With the additional 23,000 weekday visitors and 34,000 to weekend visitors project it by the environmental assessment study. How will the ambulance reach those end needs? Then public and public spaces and community character.

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This demand would privatize public space that has historically served as a critical and informal gathering area for our community. TEIS acknowledges that 4.27% reduction in public open space, which exceeds the CQR threshold for significance. While the applicants promises that space on the rooftop access, we have similar promises broken before. The Home Depot project on Crops Avenue included promised public shoreline access that was quickly closed off for security reason and remains unacceptable today. Flooding concerns.

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Didymatu facilitate a massive structure in flood zone where hurricane Sandy storm surged 15 feet exceeding the boardwalk height. Contrary to the claims in the DIS, the boardwalk is not designed as a flood barrier. The proposed development could actually worsen flood by redirecting storm surges into residential area. And in the end, it's a historical distance. Thank you so much. I urge you reject this demand application. Thank you.

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Thank you. You. Thank you for being with us. Okay. Next up is Steven Dema. Welcome. Followed by Paula Jenkins on Zoom.

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Good afternoon. I come before you today as a deeply concerned, born and bred Brooklynite and an advocate for the preservation of Coney Island's rich history. The proposed demapping of Stillwell Avenue and West 12th Street for the benefit of a casino development threatens to irreversibly alter the character, accessibility, and future of this cherished neighborhood. Coney Island has long been a democratic beacon of culture, entertainment and economic opportunity. Handing over public streets to private interests will cut off local businesses, restrict emergency access and further erode what remains of this historic district.

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Turning Stillwell Avenue into a pedestrian mall serving only the casino and transforming West 12th Street into a four lane driveway prioritizes corporate gain over community needs. But beyond just the physical changes, we must also confront the deeper issue. The casino industry preys on the most vulnerable members of our community with false promises of prosperity. If you've lived in this city long enough, you've seen this all before. We know there are better ways to create economic opportunity by supporting local businesses, investing in education, and funding programs that uplift rather than exploit.

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Unlike any other time in our lives, we need our elected officials and our city agencies to step up and truly protect the interest of our communities, not just some, but every single person who lives, works, and visits here. I also want to take this opportunity to say that I've worked successfully with our elected officials in the past to try and preserve and protect other historic areas and to help strengthen communities, not by love and nostalgia for the area alone, but by taking real action. I'm part of a nonprofit that has applied for and secured many grants to create impactful programs, including the Two Bridges Youth Market at 50 Madison. This initiative supports youth, empowers local farmers and builds community resilience. During the pandemic, it also played a crucial role in fighting prejudice and hate and creating a safe place for all the community members to access fresh food.

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This is just a tiny example of the kind of investments that create lasting value, not casinos that extract wealth from the very communities they claim to benefit. Coney Island has reinvented Coney Island has reinvented itself time and again, but its magic is never dependent exclusionary luxury. There's always been a place democratic joy, a space where working class families, immigrants and everyday New Yorkers come to find escape, wonder and leisure. Introducing a casino into this delicate ecosystem is not just shortsighted, it's an act of cultural vandalism. I urge you to reject the demapping proposal and instead advocate for investments that truly serve the people, affordable housing, cultural spaces and infrastructure that strengthens rather than drains.

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A city's strength lies in its people, not in the speculative profits of a corporate gambling enterprise. Coney Island deserves better, Brooklyn deserves better, New York City deserves better. Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it.

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Thank you. Next up is Paula Jenkins on Zoom followed by Julia Daniele.

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Paula, are you able to unmute?

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So put me on camera, please, because I don't know where you're from. That's all I'm saying.

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do we have a

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My name is Julia. I'm coming out

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of Okay.

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Hang on, Julia. Do we have Paula Jenkins on Zoom? No.

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Yes. Hello? Oh,

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we do. Okay. Great. Yes. Miss Jenkins. Yes. We can hear you.

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Yeah. Okay. Good afternoon, everyone.

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is Paula Jenkins. I am the TA president of the Marlboro Houses, One Stop for Coney Island. And I approve this project. It's gonna generate jobs, lead jobs. I see Coney Island needs jobs and help and programs for our kids learning, job to search for jobs, help them get the education they need so they can hold a job. And, it's a beautiful reader. I don't think it's taken away from anybody. I'm for it, and I hope it goes through. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Okay. Julia, welcome, miss Daniella.

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Welcome. Hello. My name is Julia Daniella. I am a lifelong resident in Coney Island. I've lived in NYCHA since 1970. I'm a former PA president. Excuse me if I'm a little slow because I suffered a stroke, but I'm I'm a long life resident. I was a resident leader, former resident leader. I was first chair for the Brooklyn South, and I am a nonprofit owner right now for this organization called Grace. So we got them still very much involved.

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Our biggest thing with this Coney is I'm gonna read to you what I my own point. The investment. Coney Island, the West End has been long long, long, long time neglected. We can use the jobs for the young people if you or for the young people jobs that they can live on in their you wanna live in your neighborhood. You wanna work in your neighborhood. You wanna play in your neighborhood. That's how you support your neighborhood. That's how you learn to bring your neighborhood up. I know because I've done it. But I don't understand, like, what's the big deal. We're supposed to be the world's greatest playground. We're talking about one casino. You keep comparing us to Atlantic City. It'll never happen. We're talking about one.

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Atlantic City has a strip. It's not just that. It's they've sat down. The the community trust is gonna help many in the neighborhood. Let's talk about they've sat down, and we've talked about doing education for these young people to get trained and have the stuff that they need in order to progress in what's to be brought in our neighborhood. Traffic. Traffic's always been Coney Island, but let's talk about why. We have, like, three streets coming into the neighborhood and I mean, three streets coming out of the neighborhood and the rest coming in. So you really the department of traffic hasn't really given us any streets to actually go out. Like, when I was younger, it one in, one out.

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One in, one out. We don't have that anymore. So, of course, traffic is gonna be stuck in Coney Island because we don't have that influx. Local hiring. Like, that's gonna to me, that's that's just, like, the best thing of all. You wanna work, play, and live in the neighborhood. And a lot of people that are testifying actually don't live the life we live. Okay? We've been dealing with this. Coney Island will survive anything that come to it, and we're gonna hold the Coney accountable for what they bring to us.

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It depend depends on the leader, the type of leader you are, how you represent your neighborhood, how you're gonna have people accountable for what they promise you. And we have a new group of people that really want Coney Island to be put on the map. I think the Coney will give the Coney, right, the uplifting and the lights and the the the the pizzazz that it needs because Coney Island is beautiful. You know? But we need that type of life back in our dead neighborhood, you know, basically. And if we had a community board that actually listened to all of us instead of just some of us, we might come to

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the table in a better way. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here. Let me move on to Derek Latif Scott on Zoom, followed by Renee Geary also on Zoom. Derek,

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are you able to unmute in Zoom?

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Yes, I am. Hold on.

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Oh, there we go. Hello? Can you hear me?

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Hi. We can hear you. Yes.

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I'm sorry. I'm working at the same time. Yes. My formalities is this. You know, we have I work with a whole bunch of higher high risk individuals, at risk individuals, individuals looking to get a job.

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This is and that's where my point is. You have a lot of people that are in Coney Island, speaking from also Stillwell to 37th Street, Surf, Maven, and they Surf, Maven, and Neptune that doesn't have, any job, that doesn't have skills in which we're we're equipping them with the skills to apply for certain jobs and things of that nature. But, to me, 4,500, 4,800 jobs, that that's that's like Easy Street and Goddard May Boulevard for many of these, youngsters and parents, alike that don't have jobs. My question is, who's gonna who's who else is, supplying them with jobs at this moment?

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Who else?

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You know I mean? And that's where I stand with it. Who else is gonna supply these youngsters with jobs? Who else is gonna supply these youngsters with the wherewith and know how to stay, or sustain the job? You know, that's where we come in to help them sustain the job, but who's gonna supply the job? There's no one else. The and Naconia came in and and and saying, that we can do this. We can do this. We can do this. We can do that. A lot of these youngsters who haven't had the opportunity to speak, they're they wish they could have and this I'm talking about youngsters from 18 to let's say 18 to 30. 18 to 30. Many of us that are speaking is well over 30. These these these youngsters, they they're hungry. We told them about poverty stricken areas.

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I don't know how many of us have actually walked through Coney Island from 37th all the way down to Stillwell. We told them about poverty stricken. These youngsters and and adults alike, they jobs. They need jobs, and that's where I stand at. I mean, if the CONI is, putting forth these jobs, hey. These youngsters, they the the people of CONI Island need jobs. They need jobs. And who else is there to do it for them? And that's my that's my stand in this.

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Great. Thank you very much.

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No problem.

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Okay. Next up, Renee Geary, followed by Anthony Bautista.

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I do not have Renee Geary, chair.

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Okay. How about Anthony Bautista here in the room? Mr. Bautista, welcome. While you walk up, I'm going to just note that next up will be Koichi, Shuri Yanagi and Lori Gold. Hello, everyone. Hello.

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Thank you. Thank you. My name is Anthony Bautista. I'm the executive director for the Coney Island Anti Violence Collaborative. I'm also the chair of the neighborhood advisory board. I'm on the community board, and I wear a lot of hats in the community. I'm one of the vet the the little bit of veterans, you know, especially the the global war and terror veterans in the community. You know, we have served best place there that they also need jobs. So, you know, the assignment today is is not whether or it's not it's not the approving of it. It's the assignment is whether should it be the map or not. And I'm here to say I think it should be the map. Plain and simple. What's the other option? This this this commission is not here to say yes or no. Nobody here is here to say yes or no.

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You have the CAC board to do that. Then it goes up, as we know, to the gaming commission. But if you say no to this demapping, then you're gonna go to their plan b. The people from across the street, like, they keep saying that, oh, no one went to them. That's on West 12, the community that's not across the street. That's, like, maybe half a mile across the street because across the street is businesses. It's not. And then it's the police station, and then it's the fire department, and so on and so forth. But your building plan b is gonna be bigger than what they have here. And then when that goes up to the gaming commission, you're gonna be really mad when you decided not to demap it, and then that second building is the one that they brought up. Now as far as you know, I'm now I'm gonna touch on what's not the assignment. Right? Not the assignment is I think it should come anyway. Why? My mind changed because it is gonna bring jobs.

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Derek just finished speaking. He's the executive he didn't say it, but he's the executive director for the operation hood, the other anti violence in the neighborhood. We deal with kids all the time. Not only do we deal with kids, we deal with their parents. Coney Island, the medium range of Coney Island is between 19 and $40,000 a year. 19 and $40,000 a year. That's a joke. Parents can't go to work. How can you go to work? You're a single parent. How are you gonna be able to go to work? That at least the casino is going to give them the jobs they need. We've even been talking with them about bringing day care. So if they have younger kids, they'll be able to have maybe on-site, possibly on-site day care. So these are the things that benefit the community.

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These things benefit the community. I understand everything else, but these are the things that Coney Island needs. It needs jobs. Most of these people that are saying no, they don't walk the walk. They don't go from Stilwell down to the high thirties. They I guarantee you, they know they don't know that in the '37 and the '36, you have people that are living in boarded up houses with no lights. Anyone here that's in the commission has been to Coney Island, take a trip to Coney Island, go to the West End, and look at the houses over there, and look at the people that live in those houses. They're boarded up houses. Kids and everything living in those houses. Poverty is real. I think we're, like, at 8% higher than the sit than than the the city as a whole in Coney Island. This is gonna bring jobs. So why continue to say no? Why not just come to the negotiating tables and say, hey. Look.

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I think we need this, this, this, this, this. The water, you know, I need the elevation to touch to to help me with this area. Have a conversation with them because I was at first no for it, and then I sat down and I spoke with them. I'm not people here that said they got health conditions, I'm not they're not the only ones. I have asthma from from being deployed, from the from the fires and stuff like that. I can go on and so forth, but I'm gonna leave you there. Have a good day. Okay.

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Thank you very much. Oh, wait. Hang on. Hang on. We have a question for you from Commissioner Goodrich.

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a while to warm up.

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No problem.

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My question is, since you're from the Anti Violence Collaborative, I wanted to get more of a sense from you about the criticism that the project will bring crime. There's also some criticism that if it's used, will the jobs even serve serve young people? I would love to hear because you have experience in this.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. So when it comes

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to the crime when it comes to the crime part, we all have to be real with each other. When you when you're in Coney Island, you know Coney Island, the crime doesn't happen on West 12 on that side. Let's be honest. People need to stop covering the sky with their hands. The crime is not happening there. The crime is happening on the West End. The crime is happening from 26 down to 37. That's where the crime is happening. Most of these kids, not they're gonna sit there and wait in front of nobody to to rob anybody like everyone is saying, oh, because they they they're gambling, and they're gonna get robbed. These kids are not trying to do that. These kids want jobs. These kids all they they need something to do. We had an incident last year that a kid went. He pulled out a gun and shot at a pharmacy. And when we spoke to to to the specific kid, you know, me and, you know, Derek, we had the conversations with him, his response was, oh, I was bored.

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I was bored. This is this is the response. Why did you do that? I was bored. So when it comes to the crime where the casino is gonna be, you don't the the crime is not there. When you're on the boardwalk and everyone's scared to go to Coney Island and, oh my god, the boardwalk, we can't be here past 07:00, the crime is not happening still well going towards Brighton Beach. It's happening from still well going to the West End where all the poverty is at. So to answer you, the crime is not there. Look at the look up the census. Look at look up the what is the forgot the name of it right now. But look up the what is the Comstock? Thank you. Thank you, Joe. The Comstock. And what

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was the second part of the question?

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Is it fair to say your position is that for any criticism that the project will increase crime that jobs function as?

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Yeah. In part in part,

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it mitigates that. Because, like I said, the kids are committing the crime. The people that are committing the crimes are the kids. They're bored. It's not adults. We don't have 35 year olds that are that are really committing all the crimes. It's the kids. They're bored. They need something to do. They need a job. They're 18 years old. Guess what? They can work in a casino. They can. You know, you're going to college. You know, when I got out of active duty briefly, I went to college. I was a bartender. These are the things that you can do. You go to school. You go to college. You become a bartender. That's going to these kind of jobs this is what college students go they do. So these kids, they just need a job. No problem.

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Thank you. Okay. Next up is Koichi Shurianagi on Zoom followed by Lori Gold here. I'm sorry, Gold also remotely on the phone.

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Are you able to unmute?

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Yes. Now I am. I I was just saying I'm mute. Alright. Can you hear me now?

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Yeah. So, I am hi.

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Koichi, we lost you for a sec.

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On mute. My name is Koichi Shirianahi. I live on West 15th in Mermaid, about one block away from, the site of the casino. I, wanna express my deep concerns about this project because I put my son on the school bus every day on West 15th and Mermaid in the morning, and I I get have him come off the school bus every morning, every afternoon at 03:00. And the amount of traffic that already exists on our intersection, there's just so much of it, and it's it's it's it's so dangerous.

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We you know, when I when I when I put my son on the school bus, I just hope that, you know, he gets to school o okay and safely. And a project like a casino will bring so much more vehicle vehicular traffic to the area. And the casino developer's own study mentions my intersection as one of the most highly likely intersections to have car you know, an increase in car crashes. And I really hope that as planning commissioners, you look carefully at the traffic study because there's a lot of flaws in this traffic study. This traffic the community board said that the the traffic study incorporated two parking garages that are are not parking that are no longer used as parking garages.

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Our neighborhood gets very crowded, very gummed up with traffic during events. When you think of the summertime, you think of all of the the traffic that we have during the high season, a casino will increase and create more traffic. I also wanna stress that as a parent, I think it's appalling that someone wants to design a casino as a gateway to children's a amusement district and a beach that children children like to use. We have a problem over, with, you know, use being advertised. Darebling is a huge problem.

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And, you know, this is this is something where if it comes to fruition here in Southern Brooklyn, we will have a whole lot more, advertising of gambling to children. And that's something that we don't want because that is what creates addiction. So thank you very much for for hearing me, and, you know, I hope you take our our comments into consideration. Thank you so much.

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Great. Thank you. Next up is Lori Gold.

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Mute. Join.

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Hi. Lori?

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Hi, Laurie. Are you able to unmute in Zoom?

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I'm trying. Can you hear me?

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Yes. We can.

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Thank you. We can.

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But you can't see me, and I've lost you too. How about that? Okay. Well, I'll do my best. I'm Laurie Gold. I've lived in Coney Island since the early sixties. My mother still resides there in the family apartment. Two things that I didn't put into the written material. One is that I studied under Beverly Moss Spat, who many of you are probably aware of for her planning and landmarks leadership in the past. My college senior thesis was about Coney Island.

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The second thing you don't know offhand is that my advocacy for community and safety really began after my sister was killed in 1979, and her death is the impetus for what is now known as local law 11 and FISP. Very significant in the city of New York. I would like to start with two points briefly that are more general in nature. The first I call the anora effect because not even two weeks ago, five of the top awards went to this film that was filmed in Coney Island in Brighton Beach. The amount of media was local, national, and international.

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And put on your hats, folks, folks. There are going to be a lot of people wanting to see our iconic little peninsula. Number two, taking the Coney Island streets and buildings, the limited points of egress, there's only two, Private property, landmark institutions, the airspace is public space. Folks, we're talking about a de facto eminent domain workaround. This is not a good public use.

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And in fact, the Institute for Justice gave New York enough rating for its failure to pass any eminent domain reform after kilo. They called it the worst laws in the nation for eminent domain abuse. Effectively, we're doing that. My final remarks have to do with what I heard at the borough president's meeting about a week ago, specifically addressing what the the, quote, unquote, Coney people are doing. First of all, the Coney people testified that the current land it owns is sub quote, substantial and sufficient enough to build its venture, but limited as to what they could have.

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In other words, it's doable, but they wanna take more from the community. Next, it would take over Coney Island. It would overwhelm Coney Island so that Coney Island would be just kind of addressing a little side dish to the main course, which is the casino, which would basically, subjugate Coney Island, casting shadows. The sky bread would reflect the sky.

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Thank Thank you, you very much. We we appreciate you being with us. Okay. Let's move on to, Lucy Diaz on Zoom, Yelena MacNin on Zoom, and apologies in advance for the unceremonious muting as our rule to stop at three minutes. So, if that happens to you, that's just what's happening. Our apologies. Okay. Let's move on to Lucy Diaz. Is she available?

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Yes. I'm available. Thank you. Hopefully, I'll be able to get all my thoughts out.

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Okay. Okay. We hope so too.

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Bullet point. New York City housing is not the only people that live in this district. I am a homeowner, and they have not reached out to the homeowners. We have over 6,000 signatures stating we do not want a casino in this district. Ferries do not operate during bad weather. We have a high asthma community that will bring additional health issues to them. Amusement area is open from March to April. Last time I recall, that's seven months, not four. We have a moratorium on West Street on West 8th Street during the summer. That traffic cannot go through that street because we have the fire department and the police department, so it's closed during the summer months, to avoid congestion.

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There has been numerous public meetings regarding this project. At every meeting, there has been an overwhelming no to this casino in this district. The demapping will allow them to take over our already congested streets extremely during the summer days. Demapping demapping it from the city streets can negatively impact property value. As a homeowner, our value can be decreased as an extreme traffic as extreme traffic will flow, and it will impact us all year round.

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Our assemblyman, Alec Brulcasti, publicly, and I and I praise him. He's the only public member public elected official that has come out to say that it would be a significant impact to the community due to these traffic issues. This developers has empty lots right across the street that have been empty for over ten years and have not decided to develop anything on that site on those sites. So why trust them with our streets and allow them to make billions off this community? I urge the city planning commission to vote no to the demapping of our streets.

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Casinos do not give anything to anyone. They just take out of your pocket. I just wanna since I still look like I got a few seconds, let me developers are, developers, all they have been doing to you is telling you, hey. We're talking to everybody. It's been two years. Baby, you weren't even prepared for this meeting. You need to come back to the drawing board. Thank you and vote no for this team mapping.

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Thank you, miss Diaz. Well, within the three minutes. Thank you. Okay. Let's move on to Yelena Mahnin followed by Maria Hernandez here in the room.

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Yelena, are you able to unmute in Zoom?

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Can you hear me?

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Okay. Good afternoon, commissioners, members of the public. First and foremost, I appreciate for the opportunity to speak. My name is Iliana. I'm a resident of Coney Island.

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I'm a Brighton, Digi, Big Executive Director for twenty three years, and I'm a community board member, but I'm speaking for myself. I don't wanna repeat everything about traffic congestion and on and on because I believe you got enough testimonies and enough information. But when we are talking about traffic, I'm gonna tell you the story. My neighbor passed away three years ago during fourth of July weekend in Seagate. It's a West West Side of Coney Island because they were waiting for an ambulance for thirty minutes.

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It was fourth of July weekend. He was 55, and he passed away of heart attack. So we all everyone who lives in Coney Island, we know what is going on. But I usually commend applicants for great presentation because they are beautiful pictures and a lot of nice awards. But, actually, those pictures have nothing to do with reality.

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It has nothing to do with historical Coney Island, which is family area. It has nothing to do with neighborhood of Coney Island Because it seems to me that each and every presentation completely forgets that Coney Island is not amusement area only even though it's well known around the world as as amusement area. It's a very crowded residential neighborhood, and thousands of new apartments are coming in. In addition, it's flat zone with mandatory evacuation, and having some shelter in the 3rd Floor of a parking lot not gonna solve the problem. Also, let me remind everybody, and I strongly believe that commissioners and members of the public travel around the world and travel around The United States.

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Have you ever seen even one casino not directly connected to highway? That's the case in Coney Island. We have only one highway, Bell Parkway. And as somebody mentioned before, in their environmental impact study, they spell out all of the obstacles. They mentioned we are talking about amusement area, but the owners of Wonderville, the iconic part of Coney Island is against it because it's gonna shadow them.

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We wanna see Coney Island. A shame that people have to depend on casino developers to get ferry, to get rough.

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Thank you. Thank you very much, miss Matin. Thank you. Next up is Maria Hernandez. Correct?

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Okay. You have a question.

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She's against the project because there are it's a lot of traffic, and there is a hospital in Brighton Beach. And And when firefighters and ambulances have to get there, all of this traffic and noise will disrupt that. It'll be harder.

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And I will note, we're gonna provide a full translation of Senora Hernandez's testimony. And but that that's thank you. That great. And Okay. All right. Let's move on to Renee Geary, Renee Geary, who I believe is back with us on Zoom.

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Renee, are you able to unmute? Renee Geary, are you able to unmute in Zoom?

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Sorry. Yes. Can you hear me?

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Okay. My name is Renee Geary. I'm a vice president for Marlboro Association. I've been here for many years in Coney Island. I knew I I I raised my.

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I'd say yes for the for the casino. And there's no way there's no way in that it will intervene with anything. It will bring more jobs to our community. It will bring our community back up. Because right now, when they want to build a casino, it's nothing there. It's really nothing there. So I don't know why anybody is talking about, oh, it's messing up their home. It is messing up. No. No. Come out and see for yourself. So, therefore, yes, I do agree that we need it. It will bring more jobs for our children, and we have somewhere to go. Our seniors will have somewhere to go. They have nowhere to go.

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They have nowhere to go. So, yes, I vote yes for the casino. And that's what I have to say. Thank you.

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Okay. Thank you, miss Geary. Appreciate it. Next up is Alan Newman on Zoom, followed by Keith Suber here in the room.

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I don't believe I have Alan Chair.

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Okay. Let's move on to Keith Suber. Mr. Suber, you here? Great. Welcome. To be followed by Dina Rabiner on Zoom and Marie Mirrville Shahaza I'm sorry. Shahazada. So welcome, mister Subar.

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Thank you very kindly.

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I almost feel like I'm a member of the commissioners.

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Good to have you here.

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Because because I've I've I've been here Yeah. Years ago. I mean, Amanda Burton, and we were testifying. It's been a long time.

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It's been a long time.

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And we've been testifying about the opportunities that present within our communities. I wasn't gonna bring it up, but I just want to speak on something about the youth in our neighborhood. They don't have a voice. Right? Because most of us here well, I'm 19 years old, but most of us here are 50 and older, and we're making decisions for the future. I like to make a a a presentation to you guys if you can make it a part of the curriculum. High school students, college students. Right? City planning. Right?

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Let them come in and let them see and experience what this is about because they are the future. Right? So I'm gonna show this picture. This picture is from 2012. Right? Super Foundation is what we've we've been doing to get jobs for people in the neighborhood. Me, myself, personally. Lost a lot of family members to murders. I've been involved in the streets. I come from the streets, and I've changed my life. And I volunteered my time. And out of all the different entities and elected officials, no one really tried to help. But right here, you'll see it says, Throw Equities, Right? As a sponsor. So what they did, Joe sits personally.

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To me, him, Sam, Sabian, personally, he said, Keith, if you wanna train guys, they let us train in their place. They cover the insurances. They help us get sponsors. This is why I'm for it because every last place that they own in Coney Island, people from the neighborhood worked on those jobs. So for me, it's not a promise. This is this is this is the real this is what I've done all my whole life. This is me with Chuck Schumer. Down the bottom, it says we are discussing job opportunities. And this is 2025. Thank God I'm still here.

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Right? And this is a part of my legacy. I wanna see this done because the county has to offer it to put this on the table to make this happen. You cannot tell a person what to do with their property. You can't say, oh, well, you didn't give us anything. Because if you own something, it's for profit. It's for profit. Then you have nonprofit organizations, and then you have businesses. Of course, they're worried about getting shut down because they're worrying about where their next dollar's gonna come from. But you have community residents. They don't have a voice. They're worried about eggs being 12,000 a dozen. They're worried if they got three children. Right? They have to pay for each child pictures to be taken.

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You know, it's like $200 for that now. So these jobs will create many different opportunities. I'm for and thank you for having me.

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Thank you. Thank you, Fred. Welcome back. Okay. Let's hold our applause, please. Let's move on to Dina Rabiner.

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Dina, are you able to unmute in Zoom?

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Good afternoon.

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Good afternoon.

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able to hear me?

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Thank you. On behalf of the Brooklyn Chamber of Commerce, the borough's leading business association serving over 1,500 members, I'm pleased to offer support for the Coney development in its entirety. New York created a major economic opportunity when voters approved the expansion of gaming in 2013 by the amendment to our state constitution. And in the past, the idea of a Coney Island casino bringing long term jobs, revitalizing Brooklyn, and strengthening economic competitiveness was never a reality. Allowing this opportunity to pass us by and benefit other neighborhoods would be a loss that impacts our community for generations.

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Our borough, as we've seen, has become an economic engine for New York City post pandemic and has been on the rise for the last decade. Coney Island's already active amusement area offers a viable option for an expanded, thriving entertainment district. In point, we are already a destination, thanks to concerts, sports, and the amusements. After years of advocating for Coney Island to receive the attention investment it deserves, rejecting this opportunity would be a missed chance to lay the groundwork for a thriving cornerstone of the New York economy in the years ahead. Brooklyn deserves a world class entertainment district, and the Coney Island project will bring tangible improvements that directly benefit the local community.

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With the $200,000,000 Coney Island Community Trust Fund, which includes a community driven board, including local residents and leaders that will oversee investments in the neighborhood enhancements, such as boardwalk improvements, public safety, workforce development, environmental protection, and small business support. The application includes changes that will not only enable the county to succeed but will provide improvements to the community as well. These changes include things like improving the pedestrian experience along Stillwell, creating new open space for residents, and better flood resilience in the area. Therefore, we ask city planning commission to support this application that will enable an sorry, an entertainment district with year round jobs and opportunities. Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Tina. Okay. Thank you for being with us. Marie Mirville Shahazada here in the room. I'm sorry if I've done harm to your name here. And then Ronald Stewart will be after you. Welcome.

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That's okay. Thank you. Good afternoon. I've been here for a while. Again, my name is Marie Marvell Shazada. I'm the Executive Director of Alphadilla Community Services. My family owns business in Coney Island for over twenty years. Coney Island, from still old to West 36, as other people have said, is a predominantly black and brown area lacking in resources, lacking in investment. I know some of the opposition spoke about EMT service and everything. I don't know if they know the reason why you have a lot of issues with EMT is because we don't have the resources.

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We don't even have a volunteer EMT in Coney Island. The bus service has stopped. We don't even have regular service that most of the people that live on that peninsula, how many of you walk? Walk instead of waiting for the bus. So that's how dear that they're lacking in resources, that they can't even have another ambulance.

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There's not even another there's, I think, only one bus service right now instead of two that was before. Coney Island, as people said before in their heyday, had three hotels, a movie theater, a bowling alley. There was so much in its heyday. There hasn't been any investment since then. The last time that I know of was in 2001, MCU Park, which is now called Mammothee Park.

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I had happened to work there when I was younger as a food service supervisor. And we primarily hired the people from the NYCHA houses. And they were happy. And they had a job, but it was short lived. It was for the peak season from pretty much May to September. And most of those people lived in the area. And they were single parents, teenagers, seniors. They had that opportunity. The Coney happens to be able to offer that opportunity all year round, and I appreciate that. I'm trying to give you more things.

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When MCU Park came in, it also helped the business owners. I know because we have a family business there. Most people rather buy a dollar drink, a dollar water instead of paying $5 water at the stadium. And we were getting business and business, but that was only in the summer peak months. The Coney has the opportunity to offer business throughout Mermaid, Neptune, Surf Avenue, to other smaller businesses.

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There's so much more. I wanted to commend the people who came out in support of the CONY. Because like me, we're not only harassed when we go to hearings, we're harassed when we're in the streets. I, myself, some of the people thank you for your bravery. Thank you for your conviction for standing up. I, myself, have been plastered on social media by a few of the people who spoke on Zoom. One is Lucy, who was the chair of CB13. My religion was attacked about how I stood for a casino My as a Muslim children, who were a part of the Coney disability basketball team and had the shirts, were attacked, and they were posted on social media. I've been attacked.

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Thank you, Ms. Shahad. Thank you. Thank you very much. We appreciate you being here with us. Let me move on to Ronald Stewart.

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Hi, Tom.

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Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Come back. We have a question for you from Commissioner Goodrich. Commissioner Goodrich?

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I'm a big Brooklynite, but from my own admission I've

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to Coney Island, but I'm not you know, I'm glad that people are here describing it because I'm thinking about it. I'm like, God, that's very different from how I remember it. I'm realizing I haven't been there a very long time. I would I want I would so I have two questions. One of them is I'm not a huge fan of casinos.

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And when we had the presentation before, not today, but before I asked about, you know, what what what is this really gonna bring to the community because there's there's a lot of research about casinos having negative impacts. And one of the main things was that it's year you know, these are year round that that Coney Island is not the same as, like, other tourist attractions because the ones that are there now are just, throughout the summer and the spring. So this would be year round. And you talked a little bit about this, but I'd love to hear, you know, what considering whatever negative impacts, I'd love to hear a little bit more about this local community and about why that's important for you.

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Okay. So I've discussed this with a lot of residents. And a lot of residents, they find out the real facts, it's not just a casino, it's a resort. It has a hotel. It has the performance center,

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as you guys have seen,

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a conference center. It offers more than just a casino. Unfortunately, because of the gaming commission and everything, we focus more on the casino. There are jobs that are not only casino. There's so much more. They offer training, which a lot of people, residents throughout that peninsula, don't have that opportunity. There's nobody trying to come and train teenagers, as some of my other peers have said. You have a lot of older adults who would like another job close to home, and they have that opportunity there. So there's so much more that I see that the Coney Casino and Resort Development has to offer.

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And my second I might regret asking this, but I am just curious, about I didn't know about it.

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Yeah. We've been even the former council member at some hearings has been attacked by some people behind me when he has his children in his arms, which is despicable. We that is true.

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Sorry, folks. This is not a debate at this We have somebody here testifying.

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We have Julia Dannelly, who's in a wheelchair. The other day, someone who's against the casino screamed at her. While she was at a hearing, they told her, we put you in a wheelchair. You have Deborah Carter, who was attacked. You have so many to be here, for us to be here, is really brave, because there are so many other people who want to be here.

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They've been told you're going to lose your housing. And the thing is, it's a close knit community. So people know who's who, where people live. They know where you go to work. My husband, there have been people who've gone to our family store and screamed at him and said, we're not coming to purchase anything from you. And we're already not making money because it's not peak season. And he's like, Marie, I

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just lost business there.

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And I'm like, I'm sorry, but, you know, we have to look for the future. And the Coney Casino and Resort offers something more for the future, only for us, but also for the next generation. So, you know, it's it's not a pretty sight. But for these people to be here, thank you. They don't, you know, they don't get that. You know? They don't get that. Thank you. But they're being brave, and they have conviction. And they wanna see a change in Coney Island because from Silo to West 36 I walked in the night. There's no lights in the in the night. It's dangerous. And there's

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a lot that goes on. If you guys wanna take a trip, you're

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more than welcome. We'll show you. But thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you. Okay. Now Ron Stewart on Zoom.

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I do not have Ronald.

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How about Sheila Smalls?

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We have Sheila.

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Ms. Smalls, welcome, followed by Michael Russo, Lindsay Sutton. Ms. Smalls, whenever you're ready.

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Sheila, are you able to unmute on Zoom?

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Yes. And, yes, can you see me?

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We we can hear you.

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You can hear me? Yes. Good afternoon, and thank you. I've been here since nine. So

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Alright.

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So thank you so much. First and foremost, I just want to say that my name is Sheila Smalls. I am a TA. I represent over 2,000 people, have 753 units. I'm an executive director of a youth organization, and I'm on community board thirteen, which does not work for me.

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Okay? I am speaking on behalf of Sheila Smalls myself. Okay? First of all, I'd like to talk about the SkyBridge. We had a SkyBridge on West 8th Street that let pedestrians walk across the street of Surf Avenue without any harm or danger, and that was pretty good. It came from the subway over to, the aquarium. Okay? They need to put something like that back because it does disrupt the traffic when you have to turn. You'll be there for a long time. God.

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The minutes are going so fast. Luna Park, gets sandy renovation. Okay? The housing, you don't have to worry about the, I'm sorry, the renovation because the renovation comes from NYCHA. NYCHA is doing the flood renovation for all NYCHA buildings. Okay? So that is not Luna Park's, responsibility. Okay? Also, we work with young men, and I've trained over 45 men, local 70 nine, getting them jobs. And to this day, since 2010, they are still working and in middle class, and some of them doing better than me.

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Okay? So jobs do matter. And when you have a college that is going to train on hospitality and get the kids going, that would be a great start for them. I say yes to the casino. I say yes to the hotel because I have people that come out to see me, and sometimes we don't have enough room for them to stay.

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So if we have something beautiful like that, that would be great. The whole presentation is gorgeous. Brighton has every liquor license, every restaurant. They don't want us to have any money, and I think that the $200,000,000 that they are going to give us will catapult the economy of Coney Island. And I am in favor of the casino in Coney Island. That's it. Thank you.

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Great. Thank you. Thanks very much. Let's hold hold your reaction, please.

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I stopped. I stopped. Twenty nine seconds.

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Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were done. I'm not stopping you. Keep going. You gotta use every second that you want. I'm sorry

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about that.

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For my twenty nine seconds? Because I know I stuttered a little bit. My twenty nine seconds

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You're good, and we're gonna and we're gonna we're gonna restart you. My apologies.

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Yeah. My twenty okay. What happened was and, who was gonna hold the coney responsible for, the community agreement, they have a euler. And the euler means that every point and bulletin that they put there, they're responsible to keep it, and the governor is behind this or should be behind it. So these things that they promise us, they are delivered. And I believe that they will do what they say they will do. Thank you.

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Okay. Great. I'm just confirming that I've got you at the end now. Right?

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One more thing. Coney Island is raggedy. They need to redo it over.

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Okay. It is. It's raggedy. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Alright. Now on to Michael Russo.

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Michael, you're able to unmute and do?

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Good afternoon. It's been a pleasure speaking with all the people from the planning board. As as the

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I unloaded.

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We can hear you.

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We can we can hear you.

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Michael?

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Mister Russo, you Yes.

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Hello? Hello?

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hear us?

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I'm here now.

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I'm here now.

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Okay. We're ready for you. Go right ahead.

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I apologize. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, everyone, from the planning commissioner. I like the person before me, I've been here since 10:00. Born and raised Coney Island, owner of one of the old of the oldest business in Coney Island. I'm I'm part owner with my family of. I've seen Coney Island go from from, from worse pretty much worse to best. We've been doing well. We've had our hiccups between Sandy and the pandemic, but Coney Island still always seems to come out on top.

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The Coney project would be good for the neighborhood. It will bring jobs. It will bring it will bring it it brings the the year round entertainment which got which Coney Island needs. What do you call? I have so many points here.

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What can what can I say? That I I've I've been telling everyone the same line that I've been Coney Island most of the people in Coney Island besides myself, the people from Luna Park, Nathan's, the the Coney Island Amphitheater, they've invested in Coney Island. We have someone who who's here, who's who's invested in Coney Island. We wish he's invest he he would invest more since he bought the properties back in the early two thousands, but still he's here now. And he's given he's given Coney Island the opportunity to to build and bring Coney back, bring it back to its glory.

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Everything started here. The trains the full lines of the train, they start here, and they go to the city. This was the original Disneyland. It started here, and then it went out. So this is this is why I am as personally and my family is behind this project. And that's that's pretty much it. I still got a minute left.

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Thank you. Thank you very much, mister Russo. We appreciate it. Okay. Lindsey Sutton?

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We do not have Lindsey.

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Hello? How about bishop Al hello? Oh, sorry. Okay. No Lindsey Sutton. How about bishop Alfred Phillips?

4:58:111

No Bishop either, Chair.

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Okay. How about David Monk?

4:58:151

We do not have David either.

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Joe Myers here in the room. All right, Mr. Myers, welcome. We followed by Vaughn Jones and Medina Allred, also here in the room, I believe.

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Good afternoon. My name is mister Myers. As far as the Coney project, I've been going to Coney Island, been in Coney Island since I was a kid. They say it's a safe haven on Easter for the gang members. They can come and enjoy their self. It won't be no problem. It's never a problem. If you don't live in Coney, you don't know Coney, you don't go to Coney. But from what I see from right now from going up and down, it's a lot of vacant lots and buildings. My nieces and nephews need jobs.

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My grandkids. My mother loves to gamble. She's 84 years old, And believe it or not, that's the first spot she's gonna be. I love taking her everywhere fishing. She love to go fishing. We go fishing. They're not gonna tear down anything. It's only gonna upgrade Coney. Look at the streets. If these people bring a billion dollar industry to Coney Island, you think they're gonna have their surroundings effed up?

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No. They're gonna upgrade their surroundings. I don't know if y'all go in the tall buildings, 23rd Street. I'm in the buildings frequently. I don't never see none of y'all there, though, but I'm not I I didn't speak when you spoke, please. All due respect. Again, do you think the casino's gonna have them buildings looking with scaffolds on the outside? No. They're gonna help them buildings. They're gonna help our community.

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They're gonna bring things to us that we might not even see. Our grandkids gonna see. Our great grandkids gonna see. Everybody's gonna benefit from it one way or another. I like to take all y'all. I'll buy I'll get a bay a bus, and we go down there and just walk. Let's do that one day so y'all can have the opportunity to see what they talking about, what they talking about, and what everybody's saying. It's a good thing. Let's do it. Set a date.

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How about it? How about it? I'll be putting a bus and everything out of my pocket to a bus. How about Proceed. Yeah. Further anything else? But it's it's a beautiful thing that they're trying to do. If y'all allow it, y'all grandkids and kids and great grands might go stay as a result, May go eat. May go shopping. Love you all.

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Time? Thank you. Thank you very much for being here. Okay. Von Jones.

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Welcome. Followed by Medina Allred.

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Good afternoon, everybody. Good afternoon. I'll keep it brief. I feel that this whole project is a good thing, and I feel like I remember my daughter worked in Coney Island. She's 21 now. She's a small entrepreneur. So would I want that to go up so someone else could benefit like my daughter that does not live in Coney Island, but she lives in Brooklyn? I got a lot of other family and best friends living in Coney Island. I'm out there on a moped, truck, car every couple of weeks visiting.

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think it's a great thing.

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think everybody has a opinion. I could understand each and everyone's plight and reason for not putting it up. But at the same time, I believe everybody's entitled to opinion, but a lot of people like myself one day have many talents, multitalented. I once, as well, was afraid of change, so I couldn't advance as a musician. But I'm a drummer, and I wind up being a piano player. But I'm not the best to me. That's just me, my worst critic. But I believe people are scared of change. And so when people are afraid of change, they wanna keep it the same. So they're not gonna say yes to something that is new.

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Unlike myself. I want change. I want people to live. I want people to advance in life and do more, see more, have more like everybody else was saying today for the future. That's it. Thank you.

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Thank you. Okay. Next Medina Allred. Medina Allred here. Left. Okay. I believe we have back on Zoom Alan Newman followed by Alfred Phillips.

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Alan, are you able to unmute?

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Yes, am.

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Great. Welcome.

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Hey. Thank you. Thank you everyone and thank thank you for the commission for taking the time to listen and to walk through this process with so much diligence. My name is Alan Newman. I am I'm a native New Yorker.

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I've been working in Coney Island now for more than a decade, actually for twelve years. My tenure here started on the design and development team for the Seaside Park Community Art Center, which includes the Coney Island Amphitheater, the restoration of the of the child's building, which is now two restaurants, as well as a privately held public space, which is all part of the Seaside Park Community Art Center. And I tell you all of this just to give you an idea of my background. And now with that and having run the amphitheater on behalf of Live Nation for five years and now working again with the group that built it, designed, built, and looking to its future. I also wanna mention that I sit on the community board.

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I work with the work with the Alliance for Coney Island. I'm on the steering committee for the bid. So I am I'm a part of this community and I have been for twelve plus years. And from a business person's perspective, not speaking for any of the organizations which I just mentioned, speaking only as someone who comes to Coney Island five, six, sometimes seven days a week to work. Coney Island needs help.

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It is stuck, and I am speaking in favor of the Coney. I believe that the key to the key to growth in Coney Island is adaptability, it's self development, and that will breed an even stronger community. The fact is that Coney Island needs to adapt in order to develop and to grow and to maintain

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its community.

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Thank you.

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Salud. I wanna say that I've attended almost every public session on this topic. I've also attended several private sessions, and the issues come down to this. There's a lot of agreement, although certainly some disagreement. There's a lot of agreement, but everybody wants to see new job opportunities.

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Everyone wants to see Coney surviving and thriving. No one wants Coney Island to suffer the fate of Atlantic City, and Coney Island has to retain its sense of community and historic authenticity. There's agreement on both sides, I believe, on all of those points. The Coney Group understands this, and I believe that they're working toward making the community bigger, better, and with better jobs and with training for this job. But here's my main point because all of that has been said

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before. Oh,

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really? I'm sorry. I just got one more point and then I'll stop. Please consider our nation's

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I'm sorry, sir. I hate to hate to do that to you right when you were getting to the the big buildup, but we have to we have to move on. Let me go to Alfred Phillips on Zoom, and then we're gonna come back to, Ron Greenberg here in the room. Hello, welcome.

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Hi, Alfred. Okay. Great. Whenever you're ready. Go ahead.

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Sure. Bishop Alfred Phillips, First Baptist Church of Sheepshead Bay. We stand in agreement. We vote is yes. We're excited about the jobs that we'll be bringing to the community. We offer a high school diploma program and a hospitality training through our church and our church school. We would definitely like to see how we can be able to collaborate with this Oconee group to certainly move forward with the efforts that we established. I was able to read the the layout. And it certainly provides a lot of great opportunities and infrastructure, economic opportunities. And it's a great opportunity to build.

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And certainly, we would like to do our part to advance this project. Thank you.

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Great. Thank you. Thanks for being with us. Okay. Ronald Greenberg, please. Welcome. And then Daisy O'Malley on the phone and, Joseph Packer.

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Good afternoon. My name is Ron Greenberg. I'm a board member of Brooklyn Community, Board thirteen as well as the local neighborhood advisory board for Brooklyn thirteen speaking on behalf of myself. I strongly support to approve the Coney development's private ULIP application being presented today for the purposes of a demapping action and a site grading plan elevation for flood mitigation as it is reasonable and appropriate and beneficial to and not harmful to the environment of the community. The Coney Casino is a once in a generation opportunity to return the People's Playground Amusement District to its former glory as a year round destination, while simultaneously rejuvenating nearby disadvantaged communities.

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The benefits of the project far outweigh the risks and those who oppose the proposal suffer from closed minded myopic vision and are unable or unwilling to fathom the totality of the project's conceptual design. Arguments against the Kony Casino development are not in the best interest of the local community and are nimbyism that holds back progress. Security in the local community will be greatly enhanced from the large influx of additional police officers and other first responders necessitated by the Coney Casino and crime will not increase. For example, Resorts World New York City Casino located by Ozone Park in Queens did not cause an adverse impact on crime. And similar socioeconomic distress communities located relatively nearby in East New York and Jamaica.

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Major traffic increases caused by the Coney Casino will not ruin residential and commercial quality of life or endanger lives as even the most highly congested streets of Midtown Manhattan function adequately and provide timely emergency vehicle responses in spite of car density, damage to mental health from having more opportunities to gamble as justification to be against the Coney Casino, as species reasoning as online gambling on smartphones that are now ubiquitous are only a few clicks away from most individuals and displacement of local residents through gentrification and closing of small independent local businesses due to the Kony Casino will not occur as the increased foot traffic is of benefit to local mom and pop shops and the project will be the economic engine to robustly reinvigorate the entire region and provide a better and brighter future for everyone in the community. I urge you to support the project. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Okay. Next up is Daisy O'Malley, by phone, followed by Joseph Packer here in the room.

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We're trying to get a hold of Daisy right now via dial in. Okay. Daisy, are you able to unmute? Shall we proceed, Yes.

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Let's go on to Joseph Packer. Mr. Packer, welcome. And also Deborah Carter. Actually, let me just take a moment while we have a second here to just note who's left. We have Deborah Carter, Joseph Watson, Dominic Rechia, Eva Schneider and Sarah Davis. So if you wish to be heard on this item, now is the time to sign up. But it is your turn. We welcome you.

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Thank you, commissioners. This is not my first really. I was here about twelve years ago. But it's a pleasure being here again.

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Good to have

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you. My name is Joseph Packer. I'm a former community board member, and I'm a homeowner and also of Cary Gardens, NYCHA resident. I'm I'm writing in strong support of the ULURP application presented at the office of the borough presence, but I wasn't able to make it there from from March 10 for the demapping action and the site grading plan elevation for flood mitigation as requested by the Coney Island Casino. This application, I feel, is reasonable, appropriate, and beneficial to the community.

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I have lived in Coney Island for almost seven decades, and I have witnessed firsthand the many changes this neighborhood has undergone. As a young person, I worked on the Bowery. During that time as a teenager, and the Bowery has never really changed. It's always been a dark, rundown, and seedy street, and there's even worse conditions now. In the nineteen seventies, rival gangs would come down to the Himalaya ride, and they shoot up in the air and disperse the crowds.

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And and that image has been captured in my mind of just the history of the Bowery. I remember the bungalows being in Coney Island, those bungalows that came with with the amusing park and seeing how the bungalows have now left in in in the place of desert and left open lots out there in Coney Island. The Bowery has outlived its euthanist and so has the so has the the the the bungalows. So those streets have come vacant, and but the nostalgic is no longer in the streets of Coney Island. It's a long past time for the Bowie Street in the Stillwood Avenue entrance way to be removed and modernized to keep pace with the changing needs of the amusement area.

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Coney Island's amusement park is in evolving and improving, and these outdated streets have no place in our future. As the housing stock in Coney Island has changed, so too must our beloved amusement park evolve otherwise. Otherwise, it it it risk becoming a relic of the past. As a taxpayer, I'm pleased to see that these improvements will be be funded by the private business sector and not by the the direct from the taxpayers. This will ensure that the structure is modernized and Coney Island's interest will be as a brand as this world famous reputation.

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As a longtime resident of Coney Island and an active community advocate, I am compelled to express my enthusiasm for for the Coney project. This transformative initiative holds immense promise for our community, offering a myriad of benefits that are urgently needed. Coney Island faces significant changes from traffic congestion during the summer months to an aging infrastructure that requires immediate attention. She's right when she says we only have three roads that go north out of Coney Island, and that's that's part of the planning process. You have to do better in your planning process when you want to be able to accommodate the residents there.

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The project Time?

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Finish your sentence. Go ahead.

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The projected billions of dollars of private funding will not only revitalize our infrastructure, including roads, bridges, subways and of course our beloved boardwalk and ferries, but also create wealth of job opportunities and job training programs, tell it for local residents and infusion of resources will breathe new life into our economy, providing much needed support for our community based organizations and enhancing social services that

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are vital to our residents. I think that was a sentence. I got to give you credit. That last that was the longest sentence I ever heard, but I think it was still a sentence. I believe you should. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here. Okay. Next up is Deborah Carter. Ms. Carter, welcome. And then Joseph Watson.

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Hi. Good afternoon.

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Good afternoon.

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I'm Deborah Carter. I lived in Coney Island all my life. I was born and raised in Coney Island Hospital, which there is not my sixty plus years. I don't even have a name of my hospital that I was born in Coney Island. I wanted to say that I am for the Coney.

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My 47, I worked as a TA president for Graves and Outers, Nitra Houses. And I I sit and I listen to these people that weren't even raised in Coney Island, or they don't know anything about Coney Island or how we live and how we're suffering from, job failures. And some of our residents have went to some of the jobs out in the Coney Island, area, which they were denied, and some of them did work. They were called idiots stupid. They fired them.

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And I'm also section three cert certified through New York City Housing Authority. They had taken the TA presidents and put us through training. So then when the contractors come on our developments, we're able to sit with them, hire fire, and, also, to have the outside people that'll live across street that they were able to come in and work in our developments as well. Now I wanna do elaborate on some of those that said that they didn't want the Coney, which they were very, very rude, very nasty, and they're horrible. I also told them even in the meeting when we were at the borough the last meeting, we don't want you in our community because you come in our community harassing us, telling calling us all kinds of names, and doing things that is not nice.

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Even we don't even I I myself, I would be glad if they allowed that Mermaid Avenue Naked Parade to leave our community because it serves no purpose for us nor do it serve any purpose for our children, that we will have to have our children not to see this kind of a behavior. So I just wanna say that we sat and we talked with the, Connie, and we agreed on apprenticeship program for our residents. I I speak I have 634 residents, but I can't speak for all of them. I can speak for the majority of them that want this casino to come into our community. And I'm asking you to please allow this to happen, to come in our community so that we can work.

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We get the opportunity to work and, our children and even nearbys to come in and to work in this Coney project.

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Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Carter. There's a question for you from Commissioner Goodrich.

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I just wanted a quick

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point of clarification because I think it's illuminating for all of us who haven't been to Coney Island in a while.

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Are you saying that the majority of

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opposition are not or are not from Coney Island or they're new residents? They're not

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from Coney Island. Those who have threatened us, they're starved. They just they are so far that they live in Brighton, so far from us. And we are from Nathan's all the way back to 37th Street. And when we go to these meetings, we are harassed by these people.

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And we have a we have a right to go to these meetings as well. We have a right to have the I will say as well. I respect them for not wanting the the casino, but respect us because if we want it. Maybe we can sit together and collaborate together and come up with a solution that every time we go when we went to the umbrella, was terrible. This woman had a shirt up and showed all her nakedness.

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They were sitting in the seats behind us, threatening us, she, whatever, and it did not make sense. It was embarrassing. It was a disgrace, and we don't need that in our community. We'd rather have the casino than have the disgrace of what they have done to us or try to do to us.

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Thank you. Absolutely not. Thank you. Next up is Joseph Watson. No. Absolutely not. I'm sorry, folks. This is not a debate. We have four or more people who wish to be heard. And if somebody wishes to be heard and has not yet been heard, they're more than welcome. I will keep this open for another moment or two and we'll see if anybody wants to sign up. Mr. Watson, floor is yours. Welcome.

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Thank you. Thank you for having me. And I just want to say, this by far, has been the most respectful meeting that I've ever gone to surrounding this the CONI project. So thank you all for creating that environment because it's never been accomplished before. My name is Joseph Watson.

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I'm a father, eight year resident of Coney Island. I'm a community investor. With respect to the entrepreneurial and small business development and financial education that I provide through my organization, which is the mentorship program. It's an internship into manhood masculinity. I also work along with Joseph Tucker, who has the Coney Island Community Council.

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My life's work has been and continues to be community development with a focus on economic empowerment. So as far as the land use is concerned, I'm in total support because the proposed project which the Coney Trust will manage $200,000,000 in investments including $100,000,000 set aside for community programs, boardwalk repairs, parking, green spaces and other improvements. This investment will provide long term benefits for all residents, helping us to move Coney Island towards a thriving community, not just for some, but for all residents. Those proposed investments will help build strong social connections, shared values, inclusivity, effective communications with focus on the well-being of all of our neighbors. This development, like no other before and currently have never I'm sorry, like no other investors before, either currently has ever given thought to the residential's holistic needs.

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Okay? A healthy communities are characterized by strong social connections, shared values, inclusivity, effective communications and a focus on the well-being of its members, fostering a sense of belonging and collective purposes needed for both personal and community development. That paves the way for thriving communities. As some of us said before, our youth in our community, they're very angry. They're traumatized. They're despondent. And a lot of them I have a 15 year old son who's taller than me and weighs about two hundred and twenty pounds. Right? When he leaves out and goes to school, that's the most traumatic times of the day for me. Okay?

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And it's not because of transportation. It's not because he won't get a bus or a train or whatever the case may be. Just the fact that when I hope that he doesn't get harassed by other kids that are out there that don't have anything to do. Sometimes I come in from work around 01:00, and there's kids on a bus by themselves, no parents or anything because there's nothing out there for them. So we need this. As the other brother said, Keith, even though he had worked with Thor Equities when they came in and invested in the community, I also got a benefit from that, but not from Thor equities. Again, thank you and I'm definitely for it and I support Thor and thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Thank you for being with us. Okay. Dominic Amrecki Jr.

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Thank you, chair Gurodnik, commissioners for giving me the opportunity to speak here today. My name is Dominic Amrekia Junior, and I am the former proud council member from Coney Island. I'm here today to speak about the request for the city map change and the opportunity that we have to build an entertainment complex in Coney Island Amusement District. Coney Island emerges as a world renowned, one of a kind amusement destination, which dates back to nineteenth century, which time was known as the world's greatest playground and was an amusement area that included Luna Park, Dreamland, Steeplechase Park, where I used to go with my family, which also contained casinos, a racetrack and approximately six bath houses, 13 carousels, 11 roller coasters, over 200 restaurants and over five businesses ranging from newsstands to arcades. In 2009, myself as the city council member, I ran on the opportunity that I was gonna revitalize Coney Island.

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And at that time, I sat down with Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and we talked about it. And we decided how to move forward working with the Economic Development Corporation and with the City Council Land Use Division, who was excellent under the leadership of Gail Benjamin. And we rezoned Corney Island. While this was a broader rezoning of

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Corney Island West and Corney Island

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East, we wanted to see one of our main goals was to see hotels and an entertainment complex to facilitate jobs and create a year round destination. We fought hard for this rezoning against many of the same people that are opposing this city map amendment today. The results of the 2009 rezoning have been paying off. Developers investing in the community, providing much needed housing and now to fully realize the final vision to make this a year round destination. Your support for this map change has the potential to dramatically alter in positive ways the lives of Coney Island over 50,000 residents and millions of visitors who now come and who are flocking back to the people's playground.

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This plan presented to you today will make Coney Island a year round urban amusement and entertainment destination, enhancing retail opportunities, addressing the needs of the tens of thousands of residents that call this neighborhood home. Our plan carefully balances a number of priorities, job creation, economic development, while creating many new retail opportunities for the community and preserving and enhancing the amusement and entertainment district. The plan will result in 4,500 new union jobs, 4,000 permanent jobs, union jobs, billions of dollars in new economic activity. Our commitment and the CONY's commitment is to bring jobs to this community also includes encouraging participation by minority and women owned businesses and entertainment enterprises through the city's MWBE. Jobs offer many great opportunities.

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We got several questions for you. So let me actually, don't you

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I just want to say this one thing, Mr. Chair, is that the job opportunities are going to give Coney Island residents first opportunity to apply for the jobs. So the first 30

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Let's add all of your stuff in response to the question that Commissioner Benjamin is about to ask you. Just so that I'm consistent here, Commissioner Benjamin has a question, then you can talk about well, you can answer her question however you wish.

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I want to say council member Rekia, but we'll say former council member Rekia or just Dominic. Thanks for the shout out about the 2009. But my question also involves that. How do you see this plan comporting with the 2009 rezoning, both with the residential that that plan supported and proposed, the more dense residential, as well as with the Vaderises and others who were part of that plan and supported this, how does this I I know they had some issues about how they would fit in to this plan and whether they would still be able to do on Dino's, they'd still be able to do the work that they needed to do on a regular basis. So if you could speak to those questions, I'd appreciate it.

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No one is closing down or taking any part of anybody's property where the amusement are. So Wonder Wheel, Pinos Wonder Wheel will remain. They are not losing. A matter of fact, they expanded in the last few years and they put another they put their own roller coaster in. And we helped them with that, and we were supportive of that. So no one is taking away anything, okay, from any of the amusement areas. A matter of fact, it's gonna help them because in my vision is to let's make all of these amusement areas at Halloween, make them celebrate Halloween and bring decorate for Halloween. We we could bring in the people. For Christmas, make it light it

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up with Christmas lights.

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And right? And then let's bring back when I was the councilman, we used to have the ball drop from the parachute drop. Let's bring that back and open the carousel and the rise. We had the ferris wheel going. New Year's Eve, what's better way? And somebody proposed. But it was beautiful. These are ideas that we could do, and no one is hurting them. And matter of fact, what I my vision is to help them improve it because we'll bring more people will be coming to them and to give them discounts. We'll offer from the casino, you know, discounts to go on their rides. And

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how do you see this interacting with the residential, which was a part of the plan? Will the casino and the resort be good neighbors for the new residential by your favorite Italian restaurant? Yes.

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We are gonna make sure, all right, that jobs, opportunities are first giving. Okay? And we're also working with Kingsborough Community College. We have an MOU waiting to be signed by them. We're going to take once we God bless that we get one of the licenses, we will work immediately, work with Kingsborough. We're going to get people on board because there are many people that need to be educated. And we're going to work with Kingsborough Community College because they have a beautiful hospitality program. We're going to work with the local high schools. We're going to get them involved. And this is how it's all going to operate.

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And the residents, like I said earlier, they're going to have a first priority to get these jobs. And we're just not talking about we're talking about good job. We're talking about management positions also. We're just not talking about janitor jobs or gaming jobs. We're talking about vice presidents. We're talking about managers positions, decision making decisions. They're gonna and we're gonna promote the community getting these jobs first.

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And last but not least, in terms of the resort and etcetera, is it contemplated that the hotel workers union will be involved with this?

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Yes. The hotel workers union support us. They put out a statement on it. If you haven't seen it, I could get it.

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I could get it for you. And you know what? People keep on talking about because they're you know, we're trying to get, you know, as many people, local people hired. Okay? And there'll be less parking spots.

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In addition, we have, you know, with the ferry service, Just to get it back to Commissioner Dweck, when he talked about the ferry service earlier, I just want you to understand that in the rezoning of 2009, a study was promised in writing in the points of agreement by the city of New York by the time we left office, DeBloom and myself, that a study would be finished. Unfortunately, Sandy struck, and the ferry study was never done. About six months ago, I testified before the city council, and I brought this to their attention. No one knew about it. I presented it to them, and they're looking into it to get this study done.

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It's not a ferry study, a study for the ferries in all over New York City. No. It's a ferry study to be done just for Coney Island. And so it's in I could send you a copy of that MOU if you would like, commissioner.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Former council

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Commissioner Commissioner Goodrich has a question too. Yes.

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Takes a while to warm up. My last question and it's a very basic question, but I feel like I haven't heard it being actually addressed by someone supporting the casino. There's just a real basic criticism of the social impact of casinos. Sort of like, you know, if there's I grew up in Brownsville. Sometimes they would, you know, like, have liquor stores.

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And people would be like,

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oh, it's a business, and people will work there. And if people wanna drink, I mean, that's their business. If people wanna get addicted, I mean, who who cares? But, obviously, there's the real question of what the overall impact that would bring to a community, and there was a lot of tension about that. And it's sort of similar with casinos

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because you have

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this bringing in jobs and business, But it's also we've also had a lot of people from the community who are supporting it, but also testify and paint a picture of a neighborhood that is overwhelmed, boarded up, basically, you know, that needs a lot of support and is vulnerable, economically vulnerable. And it seems also like it's not the same as Times Square to me. And so I would love to hear you address that and the fact that it the paint the for me, the the picture that's been painted is an economically vulnerable neighborhood. And then you have a casino being brought in, and the main concern is the social impact of furthering gambling addiction. So I'd love to hear

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Yeah. First of we're gonna address the gambling addiction. We're gonna have a support not for profit and work with different gambling anonymous and different programs to make sure that and have will pay for this. Okay? We're not to have people if they have a gambling addiction, we will have we will help them and we will provide services for them. But we will make sure that number one, okay, that the jobs in community are good paying jobs. We're gonna make sure that the reason why so right now, we're Coney Island. Buildings are being built. Okay? But stores, the commercial part, are empty.

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Why? Because a lot of stores and people don't wanna open up businesses yet because they don't know how they're gonna survive in the winter months. By making this a year round destination,

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that's gonna those stores that

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are empty right now will be filled immediately once we get the casino. It will improve the local community. In addition to that, okay, are going to work with different community. If someone's having problems, we're gonna we're gonna address it. Because there's gonna be this trust fund that we're supporting and we're forming. It's gonna be made up of community members. Just not people who work for the casino. It's gonna be made up of the community members, and we're gonna have part of it is to address issues that are facing the community and facing if anybody has those issues and what those issues are. And we're gonna meet periodically with them monthly and work with everyone in the community.

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So when you say we will have my follow-up question. When you say the we, you're talking about store equity.

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No. So it's store equity owns a property. Okay? And you have Global, you have Saratoga Hotel and Casino, you have Legends. These are the corporate sponsors who run the day to day operations. They will be involved. Okay? When I say we, we're like all working together to make sure that this comes through. I know. No. But, Pard, you're on the committee already. I'm just saying they're on the committee.

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Okay. Let's let's

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let's So they're on the committee. When I say we, it's everybody.

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Any more questions? Commissioner? Yeah. Hey, Commissioner Dweck.

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Hey, Dominic. Hi, Dominic. Good to see you. Not sure if the microphone is working. But can

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you speak to the economic

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how many jobs are going to be created? From Approximately 4,000 permanent jobs, 4,500 construction jobs. 4,000 in the

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operation of the hotel and the casino and Right. Throughout the year, full time employment. So Right. Got it.

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And we're going to give Coney Island residents the first opportunity to apply for those jobs.

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Very good. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Dominic. Thank you for being with us. Okay. Let's move on to Eva Schneider followed by Sarah Davis.

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Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name is Eva Schneider. I'm a Land Use and Zoning Attorney at Shepherd Mullen, I'm part of the applicant team today. I know you've heard a

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lot of specifics about the project itself, so

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I wanted to take a moment to situate us on the site and contextualize it within the larger neighborhood in the history. As Dominic mentioned, you know, Coney Island's legacy began in the mid eighteen hundred's with the opening of its first hotel in 1829. From the eighteen forty's until the Great Depression, development in Coney Island flourished. As Dominic mentioned, we had Sea Lion Park, Steeplechase Park, Luna Park, and Dreamland. All of these were constructed due to the investment of entrepreneurs, developers and the business community within Coney Island.

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Dominic had mentioned that we had 60 bath houses, 13 carousels, 11 roller coasters, 200 restaurants and over 500 independent businesses. But this era also included the development of two casinos, Bowers and Rice and Weber's and the Brighton Beach Racetrack. All of these institutions contributed to Coney Island's culture and neighborhood character. And I think it's really important to emphasize that it was because of this private investment that went into the area that it was enabled to develop the entertainment and the amusement uses that it had. This included, once again, two casinos and a racetrack.

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And that was what enabled Coney Island to claim its name as America's Playground. I don't have to tell you about the Great Depression and what happened later with Robert Moses and the urban renewal program. But all of those changes resulted in impacts that are still seen and felt today. And in the 1990s, the city made a concerted effort to preserve Coney Island's iconic museums, but also to invest and encourage private investment into Coney Island. That is what makes Coney Island amusement thrive.

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The Coney Island rezoning in 2009 had the stated goal of creating a 27 acre amusement and entertainment district that would reestablish Coney Island as a year round open and accessible amusement destination. This project is situated entirely within that district. It is not impacting any residential districts. It is within the Coney Island sub district that is dedicated to amusement. I also wanted to clarify, you were asked about the ferry.

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There's actually a bill that is in the City Council. It was introduced in November. It's Intro eleven-four. It's sponsored by Brannan, Brooks Powers, Freyas and Hanif. And it's a study to see how we can add new ferry stops, and one of those stops would be in Coney Island. We believe there's no better home for Coney than America's Playground. It's a neighborhood that is historically founded on and shaped and guided by entertainment and amusement usage. Thanks for your time.

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Great. Thank you very much, Hugh. Appreciate it. Okay. Sarah Davis.

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Okay. Jeffrey Morton. Mr. Morton, welcome. And I believe we have Ronald Stewart back on Zoom and this will be a final call for those who want to be heard on this item. Welcome, mister Morton.

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Hello. Hello. My name is Jeffrey Morton. I'm a resident of Cooney Island, Brooklyn. I've lived there for over forty forty five years. I'm a film director that won three awards for my film called, Our Mother's Voices, which is shown on TV as we speak. My film is about mothers who lost their kids from violence. I also do a event called brothers reaching out event that stops the violence for that day. I've been doing that for twenty five years. I'm in full support of this casino in Cooney Island because it will give our community a great look and also give our teams jobs and also stop balance.

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I was asked by a couple of teams a month ago that got in some trouble what type of job I could get after leaving jail. I couldn't call my friend Keith Suva because he gets everybody jobs, so I was I didn't know what to tell him. I just told him to stay positive and stay out of jail. After hearing them, I was lost for words on what direction to tell him. All I can say is stay positive, live right, and pray. Because in Cloney Island, that's all you have you have. Our streets is dark. It gets violent, like they said. We I live from Nathan's 35th Street, and it's it's pitch black. But by nature, it's just bright.

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By seeing the, the plan, it looks beautiful. And I hope it I definitely hope it comes here. I believe in this 100%. This will also stop me from going to Foxwoods and Atlantic City.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you for being with us and your patience. Let me ask for Ronald Stewart as our next and what I believe is our last speaker today.

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Ronald, are you able to unmute in Zoom?

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Could you hear me? We can. Could you hear me?

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can. My name is Ronald. Alright. Thank you for allowing me this time. My name is Ronald Stewart. I'm a lifelong resident of Coney Island. My family came here in the nineteen fifties. In fact, 1950. We lived in bungalows on the Western end. We froze in the summer I mean, in the winter, and we baked in the summer.

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What we are here for and I keep hearing about jobs, but what we're here what we're here for mainly is for the demapping, the restructuring, the the landscape of the area that Coney is interested in building the casino. Number one that we have to be concerned about, and no one seems to speak to this air, and that's the safety of our environment here in Coney Island. I have my my parents, my mother in particular, worked to make sure that we had public housing. They petitioned the Johnson administration and made sure that many of these people that's on here talking had a decent place to live. I recognize that if we if we negate the fact that this the mapping would impact the safety of our community, then we are missing the whole point.

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I recognize this some years ago on a regular day. On a regular day when there was people coming to Coney Island, I was taking my 10 year old daughter to her recital. There was so much traffic, so much congestion that we were stuck at 20th Street, and we couldn't move. My daughter cried. We missed her recital.

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So I said to myself, this is this is a problem. And if we build anything else if we build anything else without concerning the safety of our community, then you're missing the point. I don't care if they allow us to have billions of dollars in finance, billions of dollars in billions of jobs, but we have to do your homework and look at the safety of our community first. Because if the safety is is at if we're at risk, it doesn't matter if we have jobs. And I talked to a lot of these young men on the street in Coney Island because many of them are my relatives.

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Some of the people raised me when I was a child, and my mother and I fought for many of the things that none of these guys have in Coney Island, but they they they don't understand it. Dominic knows what I'm talking about. A lot of them don't even understand, commission, what this whole thing represents and how it it would impact them. This is why I say no to Coney Island. We need to petition the city economic development corporation and do the same thing they did up in Westchester and and redo Mermaid Avenue as an enterprise. Because if the casinos don't come, what's your plan? We will still be here, and we have to fight. And so yes. I'm against the

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Okay. Yes. We're I'm just going do a final call. If there's anybody who wishes to be heard on the Coney development calendar number 26 who has not yet been heard, this is your opportunity. Okay. Seeing none, we'll close the hearing on calendar number 26 with appreciation to everybody who is here to state their views both in favor and against. Respectfully, we thank you for that. Let us move to the next item. We may have an announcement on this one, and then we'll move to the next item.

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Thank you, Chair. Before we continue on to the next item, the record on this item will remain open through five p. M. On Monday, March 31 to receive written comments on the DEIS. And moving to calendar numbers eighteen and nineteen.

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Great. Let's go.

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Borough Of Brooklyn, calendar numbers eighteen and nineteen, Grace Houses, CD5, calendar number 18, C240184ZMK, calendar number 19, N240185ZRK. Public hearing in a matter of applications for zoning map and zoning text amendment concerning Grace Houses.

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Okay. We have James Howard here. Welcome. Good

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afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon.

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Good afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon.

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I'm James Howard, JT Realty Advisors, a development consultant working for Grace Baptist Church of Christ and Grace HDFC in Brooklyn. I'll keep it very brief. We're here requesting two things, a zoning map amendment to change the zoning from an R5B with a 1.35 FAR to an R6A with a 3.6 going up to four point zero FAR with quality housing. Also a zoning text amendment to add an MIH district. Essentially, project will result in having two affordable housing buildings, 100% affordable.

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One building will be approximately five stories and have 39 apartment units. The other building will be approximately seven stories with 114 apartment units. Affordability bands will be from 30%, 40, 50%, 60%, and 90%. 15% of the units will be at 30%. 15% will be at 40%.

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20% will be at 50%. 40% will be at 60%. And 20% will be at 90%. There will be about 67 underground apartment units I'm sorry, underground parking units, 67 underground parking spaces. There'll be a few other on grade parking spaces, but we're still trying to kind of finalize that.

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But there will definitely be a minimum of 67 underground parking spaces. The building will be energy efficient, solar panels, a 100% electric, no fossil fuels. We will have air source heat pumps for heat and air. Am I leaving anything out? No displacement.

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Currently, there are about three tenants residing in the various multifamily homes owned by Grace Baptist Church at this time. We've reached out to HPD and we're still waiting for confirmation. But based on prior projects that I've worked on, prior programs with HPD including neighborhood redevelopment program, NRP for short, neighborhood homes program programs. Whenever there are existing residents living in those buildings, they do get in fact a priority opportunity to apply for permanent housing within the new development. And we're expecting that they will not have to go through the lottery process as the new tenants would have to go through.

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So I will stop there and see if there are any questions. Thank you

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very much, Mr. Howard. It's late in the day, although not too late for me to observe that you appear to have done that without notes. So I'm just saying what you were able to convey just out of your head was incredibly impressive, let me just say. Commissioner Osorio has a

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question for you.

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Sure. Thank you, Chair. Thanks so much for the presentation. I did have one two quick follow-up questions. I just wanted to give you a chance to respond to the community board's comments about the commitment to increase the number of family size units? Yes. Is that can you say a little bit more about that? Also, is there some of the well, the recommendation regarding the 13 proposed lots under ownership of Grace House Development Group? Is is that is that how do you respond to those two things?

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All right. So if I may, I'll just go with the first one. Then you should remind me of what the second one is. Sure. So first one, yes, community board, even prior to that, council member also had a similar comment or question.

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The question was it's a two part question, a two part comment. One is with respect to not having any three bedroom units. The second one was with respect to the sizes of each of the units that we proposed, right? We have studios ones and twos proposed, and there were some issues brought to our attention about them being too small. Currently, the current proposal has roughly 350 square feet studios, roughly five fifty square feet one bedrooms, and roughly six or so six twenty five square foot two bedrooms.

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So our response and our commitment to the community at large has been that we could redesign the project. We would add about, I believe it's nine three bedroom units. And ultimately, it would result in having fewer apartment units. So we could conceivably go down from 153 to, give or take, 135 apartment units. So that would mean increasing the size of the studios from 300 square feet, three fifty square feet to roughly four fifty to 500 square feet.

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We would increase the one bedroom apartments up to about six fifty to 700 square feet. The two bedrooms would go up to about six to seven seventy five to 800 square feet. And we would have roughly 900 square feet three bedroom apartments. So it has not been redesigned. We've kind of reprogrammed it, submitted that to our design team, and they're looking at making sure that air, light, etcetera, can be do can be done to accommodate. But we have committed to adding the three bedrooms and to increasing the apartment sizes for every different apartment type.

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Thank you. Thank you. If you if you don't mind submitting that information in writing just so

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we have the what the

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final layout is looking like

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I'm sorry.

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It's not part

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of the presentation, but we we actually submitted a grid to DCP that shows before, after, and change.

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Okay. Thank you.

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So so I I can submit that after.

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Thank you so much. And then the second question is really, just the the the board is making the request to limit the rezoning proposal to only include the 13 Mhmm. Proposed loss, under owner under your ownership or Right. The ownership of your client. So how do you respond to that?

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I mean, we would be indifferent to that. Right? So so our zoning only deals with our 13 lots. The project area is 31 lots. So our understanding is that we couldn't do spot zoning just for our project. We would do it for the entire project area. If the governing bodies determine that they want to limit it to our project, we would be indifferent to that.

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Okay. Thank you. And just one quick final question. The the borough president recommends do not exceed the amount of parking available by only building one sub level under each building footprint? Yes.

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Great question. So one of the questions that came up was could we contemplate adding additional parking spaces? And what would be the consequence or cost of doing so? And what I explained to the committee board was that, yes, certainly we can add another level of parking, but there would be a substantial cost to that. So let's say we have 67 underground parking all on one level on the ground. If we added a second level, essentially you double that. Community board I'm sorry, board president said, we get it, but we don't want you to add cost. Because adding costs would result in our inability to provide all of the affordable housing units that we would like to provide.

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And where are you gravitating at this point?

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Leaving it at 67. As you all know right now, it's in a transit zone. Parking is not required. City of Yes, parking is not required. We are voluntarily providing the parking. What we could do is it would be a substantial cost, right? And right now, we're looking at 100% affordable housing building. We do not see a way of deferring that cost or mitigating that cost by adding additional subsidies than HPD's current Ella program would allow. Thank you. I definitely would encourage

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you to prioritize how affordable housing over parking. Thank you.

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Thank you. Commissioner, Commissioner Martin?

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Thank you for the presentation. You actually just begun to start touching on what I was going to ask, which is funding from HPD. You talked about the Ella program. Is that the only program you intend to tap into at HPD? And what have been your conversations with HPD about funding at this point?

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Sure. That's a great question. So initially, we were proposing to use the mixed income program, mix and match. Right? But then we were we were this goes back years, four years ago.

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So HPD said, no, there was some side agreement when the East New York rezoning took place whereby all of the units had to be at a certain affordability level. And we said, well, we weren't our site was not part of the East New York rezoning. So we were not sure that we were supposed to be part of that. We had heard from the prior council member of that district that they didn't want 100% low income. They wanted mixed income band.

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So that's what we were targeting. As we went along through our process, our EULIP process, we had other conversations with DCP, other electeds. The current group of electeds told us that they do want more steeper affordability. And that's what led us to the Ella. In addition to that, when we look at the current affordability levels, Ella still allows for middle income people to be able to qualify for apartments in the site.

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If we look at the affordability levels, for example, we target school teachers, nurses, firefighters, etcetera. They can still qualify for housing under the ELA given the fact that the AMI in New York City has gone as high as it has gone as now. So specifically to your question, we have had various conversations with HPD as recently as a couple of months ago, right before we went to get certification in December. And HPD says, we'll put you in our pipeline, but we don't have any available volume cap. Our Ella program will use taxes and bonds, right, and 4% tax credits. So they have to have available volume cap. HPD has said we're looking at more of a year and a half wait before we do that.

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Okay. Beyond that Right.

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So so that that's kind of where we are. So if if we assume that we complete the EULAR process, you know, through June or July or so of this this year, and we let HPD know, ideally we'd close at the end of this year. But it wouldn't happen. So we're looking at more at the 2026 or so best case for an HPD closing.

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Commissioner Benjamin?

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One quick question. When will the congregation practice while the construction is going on?

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Great question. Right now, they're practicing someplace else because the building is in disrepair. We had an engineer's report. They had to leave the building. They haven't had services there in two years now. So they're doing their services at the Grace Church School on Livonia Avenue.

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That's where

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they hold the services.

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Okay. Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Thank you very much. I see no other questions for you. So thank you very much for your presentation. But I also see no members of the public wishing to be heard on this item. So I will close the hearing on Grace Houses. And I will turn to you Madam Secretary to see if there's any further business before the commission today.

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No, Chair. There is no other business before the commission for the public meeting, but I do have some public information to share. For those of you who are unable to or did not wish to testify, you can submit written testimony online by selecting this hearing on the NYC Engage portal through DCP's website or by mailing your comments to City Planning Commission, Calendar Information Office, 120 Broadway, 31st Floor, New York, New York 10271. The time is 03:58PM.

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With appreciation to members of the commission and members of the public who are here with us today, we appreciate all of your time and energies and thoughtful questions, thoughtful comments. And with that, we are adjourned.

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