Neosho County Commission - Regular Meeting

I'll call to order the board of county commissioners in Mio County, Kansas. This is Wednesday, May the 6, 2026, and this is a regular meeting. It is 1:00 and we will start with the pledge of allegiance and the invocation by Caleb Sto. You all stand to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Stay standing.

Let us pray. Oh merciful father in heaven, from you comes all rule and authority over the nations of the world, for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of those who do well. Graciously regard your servants, the county commissioners, those who make, administer, and judge the laws of this nation and county, and look in mercy upon all rulers of the earth. Grant that all who receive the sword as your servants may bear it according to your command. Enlighten and defend them and grant them wisdom and understanding that under their peaceful governance your people may be guarded and directed in righteousness, quietness and unity. Protect and prolong their lives that we with them may show forth the praise of your name through Jesus Christ your son our Lord. Amen.

Amen. Amen. Thank you. Are there any additions, corrections, or deletions to the agenda? Okay, seeing nothing. It is as printed. Uh, commission comments and reports. We need to talk about the juvenile detention, but uh, I got Cali out there to run off some paper. We'll probably do that later in the meeting. That's okay. Yep. I don't know. You two have been contacted from Tribune. Yes.

Uh concerns. It's come about through the Republican party conf or no confidence vote on our current county attorney. I'm going to publicly use my opinion. It's been a breath of fresh air. I think Cheryl Busel has done a wonderful job and she's an insurmountable problem that she's had to overcome with the past two county attorneys. That will be my comment on her what she's done for this county. Um I think that's all I have to say. I think I completely agree with you. I think she is a fresher, you know, definitely. And uh we haven't had this for since I've been around.

16 years. might have been a long longer than that. So, I think she's actually I'm impressed. She actually got to the bottom of the problem and she's taking the time

to actually correct it and get us back on the right path and I don't know anyone else that would have taken the time to do that. So, I really appreciate her doing that. Um, so yes, um, I would like to say I did go to the KCCA conference in Hutcherson. So there were two things that really we talked about constantly. One was the property tax. So um I don't believe it had been vetoed um by the governor at our conference but pretty well knew that it was going to be vetoed. Uh but I think KAC wants to take an approach that we would like to be on the ground when things start at the state so that we can be in conference with all of these state reps and state senators of how are we going to make this work. Um I think we all can say property tax is kind of a crazy tax but yet it's what we have. Uh until we come up with a solution we have to deal with what we have. And so there was a lot of conversation of um where everyone, you know, stood on that and just hopefully we can have better communication. We have several uh county commissioners now that are representatives or senators and that helps a lot. They've actually have a call a um a group of them now that are meeting and and helping to get the word out about you know how can we actually you know make some changes but yet have state support and the support of what our citizens need for the citizen for the services that we give. The other one was data centers. So uh they basically said if you haven't been approached yet you will. they expect um a data center to be in every county in Kansas. So um anyway, we're going to talk about this later. There is

one being built in Allen County already. Um so it is close to home and it's something that we do need to address um our concerns and uh the consultants that they have there, they have some consultants that are neither positive or negative or whatever. They're just there to help counties. Said basically also if you don't want a data center, if you don't want a solar farm in your county, just be upfront right away. And some counties may just say, okay, you know, we'll go to the next county, whatever we feel. But we do need to have like a moratorium in place so we can kind of take it one step at a time and not be taken advantage of.

So to our alternative energy, more torrent, I mean, yeah. Go in line. Yeah. So, we need to look at all of that. So, I think that's what Crawford County is trying to do right now. Yeah. So, anyway, it was um it was a very good conference. So, now we have any more uh public comments. Oh, if you can give us your name and address.

Um Gina Bernett, 8405 Me Road, Erie, Kansas. Um pardon my nerves. This is the first time I've ever [laughter] done public comment. not usually not on this side of things. So, um just kind of bringing some concerns I have with our roads. So, I live in the southern half of the county and it's like pulling teeth to get our roads taken care of. And um it seems that getting our roads graded takes forever to get something done. And our grow our roads are in terrible shape. Um big thing is we've had a lot of heavy rain lately. So, anytime they've dumped rock, and that's literally what it seems that they're doing, they're dumping rock and maybe just laying it out to cover those wash out spots or what I like to call the washboards. Soon as we get that heavy rain, because of the way our roads seem to be graded, all of that water runs in to the middle of the road and then we have even bigger potholes than what we started with. It's tearing up vehicles. Um, and I know that it's been brought up before. I know Paul's brought it up before. Our ditches are even seeming to grow to the middle. I mow our own ditches and I now have probably an extra foot to a foot and a half that I have to mow because the grass is overtaking. And my assumption is is it's the way the roads are being graded, the rocks not being dispersed properly. I'm not a road grader. I've never worked in roadbridge. I don't know how to operate those machines, but we spend a lot of money on equipment and I know that we spend a lot of money to try and retain Mike's staff. I would like to see our roads better taken care of and this is from 47 to 70th or Gailsburg Road. I mean, that whole stretch of me is terrible and

remains terrible. Even 90th from 59 right as you pull off. I mean it you can't miss the holes like they and they get deeper every heavy rain we have. Um we've had some rock lately dumped over those holes and we got that heavy rain and all of a sudden they're deeper than what they were. And again you can't avoid them because we've got a covert on the other side so you're going to drop off. So um about a month ago and this is why I'm going to public comment. I do watch the meetings from home since I work from home. And about a month ago, it was said that if the roads don't look like they need fixed, they don't get fixed. Well, if you're not actually driving the road, you don't know if they need fixed. So, I don't know why we can't just get on some kind of grading schedule so that at least I know something's be being attempted on my road. The last time something was actually fully done on my roads was November of 2025 and were in May of 2026. So rock being dumped to me is not the same thing as actually grading my road. So um thank you for your time. Again, it's very weird being on this side of things. So I know I probably sounded like an idiot on some of that, but I'm just nine. Needs something done. So thank you.

Thank you. Any other public comment? Sure.

My name is Dan Muter. I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a candidate for uh the second district state representative. I will be running in the primary versus Ken Collins, who's the current state representative. Uh he's finishing his third uh term in their sixth session. I have lived in southeast Kansas for 30 years uh in July. Uh lived where I currently do on a small ranch for about 20 years. I lived if you know Pittsburgh and Front Neck area uh the old abandoned dog track which is a event venue now. I live exactly two miles straight west of that. Uh we I was a minister for 30 years. Uh the last 15 at Countryside Christian Church in Pittsburgh. It's across from the high school. and I have been retired for a number of years now and looking after cows since then until my new endeavor. Uh, one of the things I'm doing is as part of this is to in our two counties and district two you all probably know um it represents parts of two counties of Crawford and Neo. In Crawford it's everything but Pittsburgh. Uh there are about 22 to 25,000 people in each district. So Pittsburgh gets its own and district two is the rest of Crawford County and then about half of Neoso County. Kind of split in a strange fashion and all that. Hard hard to figure out especially in in Shinoot exactly where that is. But um there are 14 communities uh from from cities to to small almost villages in this district. And I have ranging from Shnoot the biggest and then you have front neck and Gerard and so

forth. And the smallest I was at Monday night is Stark and it has 60 people. But they do have a city council. So, I've been going and visiting every city council and introducing myself, getting to know them a little bit and sitting at the meeting so I get a little bit of a feel for the town. I think um and and I mentioned to Nick that um very few you guys are better at this. I already can tell most. Very few of the uh city councils and town councils even know who their their state representative is, much less having met and interacted with them. and I want that to be different if if I'm elected. Uh so anyway, I just have the only one I haven't visited yet is Gailsburg in the Osho out of the 14. I my my um probably impetus for doing this. I led a group that opposed an a new bypass around Pittsburgh. Uh it was 18 would be 18 miles long and at that time about two to three years ago it was going to cost $500 million. So half a billion dollars. Some people estimate by the time it was done it'd be a billion but let's go by the 500 million figure. The state budget at that time was 20 billion. So 500 million to 20 billion is 140th or 2 and a.5% of our whole state budget was going to be spent on a bypass around ARMA front neck Pittsburgh that virtually nobody wanted. So we were able to stop that. So I have worked kind of with the state even though in that case it was against the state on on behalf of the people. I will be strong on secure elections, on property rights. Uh you you saw the news, I'm sure, today just like I did that Westar would like to increase our

our electric bills anywhere from 40 to 55%. Now that's going to go to the the KCC for their approval, but they cushion that by saying that's going to be phased in over three years and all that kind of thing. So So property rights is a big thing. uh whether we want to do those things or not, the number one reason they listed, that doesn't mean it's the biggest one and most important, but first on their list of why they want to do that is because of the wind turbines, the cost of those. I don't know about you, but I remember in the early years of green energy, not only was that going to be good for our planet, but it was going to lead to cheaper utility bills. That obviously is not the case, and that needs to be dealt with. So anyway, my my commitments this I've said this to uh 13 of the uh city councils uh and you all to the two county commissions that my commitment is to come back at least once a year definitely in the May June time frame. That's after the session ends. It usually ends in about midappril uh and report to you uh what we did, what was done, both the good and the bad. and and hopefully there's more good than bad, but sometimes things don't get done like we would like them to. So anyway, thank you for the opportunity and and nice to meet you.

Yeah, Dan, thank you. Yep. My brother speaks highly of you. Thank you. Good guy. Haven't talked with him while last night. Thank you, Nan. Appreciate it. Any other public comment? Cheryl, do you need to be on the agenda? I have like the shortest item in Okay.

Okay. Well, we we need to do consent agenda because they're going to write checks today since we didn't meet yesterday. So, any questions on the consent agenda? Okay. Okay, I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda that consists of accounts payable of $62,345.7, payroll clearing from 424 for $96,54560 and we have eight department head leave requests. I'll second the motion. All of those in favor?

I motion carries. All right. And we don't have any scheduled have any scheduled attendees. So Dave, if you don't mind, just one minute. Just really quickly, Cheryl, we already talked about you and you missed it. Oh, it was all bad, too. [laughter]

Just don't rights in the cases to catch up because none had well, but she never set for him. But anyway, what you have to do is you have to notify people that parents that live like today in Gillespie, Illinois. So you have to send the papers to the sheriff there. So So once again, so today it was $12.90 posting and $49 to the sheriff because these guys out in these other states have fees that are interestingly high. So uh so it would be handy for me to have just aort of a minimum limit sort of thousand credit card so that when I go to the post office I don't have to pay if the claim and sure that so that's my request is a very at least a minimum credit card and I'm thinking about opening a UPS I don't know if any of you know is that cheaper but I'm looking also for more reliable than the United States Postal Service, which doesn't seem to get like that thing in St. Louis has been sitting in that warehouse according to the tracker for like the week and and the sheriff isn't even doesn't have to serve. So, we're gonna Anyway,

yeah. Well, I don't know. We can't solve that today. I know. So, what is the limit that most of our credit cards have? is 1,500 or do we have I was thinking 15. Yeah. Okay, that's fine. 15,500 keeps asking for more money, but I got it got it figured out. So, my list got short. Um,

thanks. First off, we need a faceback system replaced at the judicial center and it is a rooftop movement that is serving the court services area. It just went down yesterday. Angie had called CDL. CDL got in there and looked at it. It's up on the roof. I can't even get up there. I don't know why they're tall enough. But uh compressor is bad. Every time it tries to kick on, it blows breakers and is having trouble finding a compressor. That's not what you consider routine maintenance. I don't know where we're at on the building stuff. So, I wanted to throw that out there. I mean,

that's on the outside of the building, Dave. So, it's the only unit that's on the outside of the building. That's not what So, do you have a price on replacement?

We just got this information this morning. I had a chance to There's another invoice that was turned in for a leak. I think that was turned in for a leak is a $1,300 bill that was for a different unit that was serving. So I do believe I do have our agreement with the city maintenance obligations of the city of Shenoot the hitting the heating and air conditioning system and mechanical and plumbing systems of the building. So to me that seems like we need to

have them contact their provider. Exactly. areas like this areas like this fall under that. I don't think but I can help you if you need to. Okay. Someone needs to I'll help because um so we had sent a couple of bills to the city. Correct. And then yes, we got a reply. We got and our clerk got a phone call which I don't appreciate. you know, if we're going to work together, we need to be able to have open communication. So, I agree.

I think we need to do something besides just in the bill because that did not go well and I didn't appreciate the city. I go ahead and get a hold of CDL and say we need to get this because in that building and court services offices. No, I think we're we should be we have an understanding beforehand. Yeah. But I mean, have they contacted anyone with the city of the district court? Somebody has. Okay. Like I said, most of this just came up this morning. So, okay. I've been dealing [snorts] with other stuff and I wanted to talk to you guys before I went any further on that just in light of all these other bills. So,

it's it's going to start happening more often. for that in early 90s right 30 years out 92 when the agreement was made the le repair on trying to remember now which room sir the le repair on the last one I think there's 1300 and some change that's common and I'll get with you I'll be off tomorrow I'll be are you going to be around the mall

maybe get a conference call between us so see we can get Okay. Hopefully we can get that taken care of. But um yeah, like you said, it's going to be ongoing. And

yesterday I went into those rooms where we did the mold remediation and I put up a bunch of insulation in that ceiling, try to knock the noise down a little bit. I spoke with Judge Al. I said, "Just over the next week or so, you can just tell me, you know, if it's working for you or not. And if it is, then I'll just I'll go in and put up some kind of sheeting on it. None of the none of the boards line up for the joist. None of them are really lining up right. We try to put sheetrock up there, tight it down. It's going to break that sheetrock. So, I spoke with Cheryl and she was okay with me that maybe doing some kind of chipboard or something white. just storage room and I thought it' be the cheapest easiest way to do it.

But I didn't want to do that until I I knew that it was going to work. I used 10 insulation. So I couldn't find anything acoustic panel lights because that part of the be the northwest corner of that where it has that kind of Victorian style rounded area there and all the joist run in at different angles and just bad insulation is the quickest way to do it. So that's what I chose to do. Next on my list, and they started this freedom rock thing, the dimensions they have right now, but the rock is going to sit on a pad in there. And then there's going to be like a three-foot apron and there I think they're kind of doing this as a as they go. There's going to be like a three-foot apron around it that'll be mulch or gravel or, you know, something. And then they're going to have a five to 5 and a half foot wide sidewalk all the way around that.

So my request to them was if we can get it closer to the sidewalk and they can kind of follow some of this. I was going to ask if you guys would be willing to let me chip in some concrete as long as they provide the labor to fill in from where they end over to the concrete and just kind of fill in the areas that they're not covering. Just kind of donation. I don't know if it can be called a donation, but just something to help me not have I can't throw grass towards the street because that's against city code, you know, and I don't want to be slinging grass towards a $26,000 rock. So, that's been painted. I mean,

it's been painted. The guy's supposed to be here June 1st to start painting it and they're wanting the whole project done by being week. So, wow.

How many yards you talking to if you got any clue? I talked to Kyle at Button Construction and he was thinking it' be somewhere around four yards which is I think he told me about $600 $750 would probably cover concrete and rebar 148 a yard and delivery fees. So if you had $750 will cover concrete and rebar material cost. And I I told them that I would talk to you guys about the material if they would provide the labor to install it while they were doing it. there just seemed like all corn was right down main street just all these little patch of grass or something decorative there. So we left that out to hit it with the weed or something but just Yeah.

Yep. I I'm fine with that. I am too. Just material or labor material? Material. Just do the material and so up to four yards. I think he said what he was thinking maybe four yards. So Just can we just word it that way? And because prices may change. Concrete's being weird right now. So yeah, I think you just go by the yard. I think Yeah, we should get it done. But yeah, whatever it's going to take yard. You got it. Yeah. And you've got it in your budget. So

I sounds good. A motion on that. No, I don't know. It's Yeah, it's coming out your budget today. So, take care of it, man. That's all I got now. I took care of some stuff before the meeting. So, okay. All right. Thank you. Appreciate it, Dave. Tasha.

Good afternoon. I have two things today. The first is just a radio update. I advised I come back at the last meeting to um let you know that we actually figured out what had happened um because the repeater went out and we uh went down for she has some paperwork for you or would you like to figure it out and tell you all about it? I'm just the assistant. Thank you. Was it last year now? Two years ago, it was October.

October. Last year in October, Code Red went it got hacked. And um Code Red is our ability to communicate with the public when it comes to weather or emergency situations. Yep. Okay. Um so they switched over to crisis 24 and since they since red has done that that's actually now anymore. It's owned by old but now they call it crisis 24. Anyways um we have had some issues with that since that has happened where there has not been sent out um user error whatever it is. I don't know what it is, but we've had several issues where we've not sent out severe weather. Um, and so Tash and I had already discussed this before that we were going to look at getting somebody else as a new vendor because they were not very forthcoming when they had the cipher event in October. I just couldn't go in and do my iPod testing every week. And then I was like, oh. And then they sent an email and said, hey, we got this problem. They didn't go any further. Communication was limited with them. So, um, her and I have been watching demos because we have nothing else better to do [laughter] and it's been good fun. Um, so we did do some demos. We do have some price breakdowns here. Um, this was the last minute we were going to do this. So, I will send you the bid information to this. You can kind of look at what kind of price what kind of features. Um, sometimes there might too many features is not enough. So, we did some demos as to make sure that it was pretty easygoing. you didn't have to do some thinking because of code when you send out a message you have to jump

to hoops and so on a little bit HQE has a radar option in there that dispatch could watch if they needed to which is part of the package um and so this is kind of the breakdown of it and I mentioned that before I know um Shirley had reached out to me about her concern had reached out to me about her concern for not receiving alerts And so we had already been doing this before, but I just kind of wanted to make sure that we were trying to address this because I noticed it as well because I didn't get messages and I get 30 other messages elsewhere. So didn't even call me till after. I was like, "Oh, we never did get it." So we would like to our contract is also coming coming up.

I think we have another But yeah, I think we need a 30 I think it's a 30-day notice that we're going to do. I think our bill usually is due June the 21st. So, um, if you guys want to think about it and or if you're good with us making and coming back and giving us your our final for the next meeting, the Sure. 16th, 19th, whatever, whatever it is.

Yeah. Okay. She know she keeps that. She better remember today. I keep that. She better remember today. But anyway, so if you guys are immutable with that and we would like to see about our final HQ or Genesis. HQE was a little bit I think the first year um it was code red. Um and they're still okay with what they have. I know some of the others have had Everbridge before. Yeah. So we had we had looked at Genesis um as well since that's what kind of what everybody else has. So Now with the changes with code red, now we actually have our before was the people that we have in code red that we wouldn't be able to access information, but I can actually download all of the people now, which we never could do before. I could never see who we actually had

in the system that had subscribed, which was I could see the phone number, but I could never see who the name was. So now I can see that. So that might be a So if you guys are meaningful to that, we will ready for the next meeting. Have you got any feedback from other counties that has this?

Um, so Genesis, yes, they all have. And the good thing about Genesis and HQE both, um, we run into a lot of times when I have somebody call me and they say they want to get on code red, then they have to go in and create an account or I have to physically go in and put their information in and choose all of the good stuff, right? The good thing about several of these, especially HQ and Genesis, you don't have to create an account because you have a lot of older population that just like I don't want to go through email address and my first born and all of that stuff that you have to have sometimes and so it's much easier. I want it to be easier for people to sign up for it because we're paying for it. We want people to use it. People are going to use it if they're not big on given information. I'm starting to starting to question that weatherman. [laughter] Next thing you say to Doug, [laughter]

I just got an email for a quote for the work to be done up there from Angie. Uh $5,200$155 and that is just repair. That's not a replacement. That's just a compressor, which I don't know how hard they look for a compressor. They said it might have been tough to find. It's getting old, but just want to throw that out there. Yeah.

Since I just got 5215 All right, Tanya today. I need I move to recess into executive session to discuss matters deemed privilege in the attorney client relationship regarding the appraisers's office for 10 minutes to include commission counsel the appraiser and we will come back at 150. I'll second the motion.

All those in favor? I. Motion carried.

We got to qualify. All right, we're back in session and no action was taken. I guess we're done with you, Tanya. Unless you have any questions. Yes, that's all I have to say. Okay, Cindy, you're next. having a pretty good time.

So, I'm gonna apologize in advance. I do have quite a few things today. So, first thing is I did receive um see um I do have a request to transfer sick leave from um an anonymous donor. The name is on the form, but they want to stay anonymous. They don't want the individual to know that they're doing this. Um they will have um the required amount of hours retained in order to you know meet the policy. You have to keep 20 days. So, the request is to transfer 168 hours from the anonymous employee to another employee in the 911 department.

There. How many hours? 168. They have 342. Thought we [snorts] had limits on what one person could I'm sorry. I thought we had limits on what one person could transfer out. I don't believe so. And not according to our new sick policy, which I don't have with me, but the one we did in 2022, [snorts] it just says you can transfer. Well, I think we've been through this before is where and it's not I'm against that it was to affect that person that much where one person's giving up that many hours. It it puts a strain on them if something came with them.

Um I can talk about it further, but we'd have to do it in an executive. I do have other information. I I just I just know we put a cap at one time. We did have a cap on. So I'm honestly not aware of that. Yeah, but it's goes way back when that original 2009 policy it or we can go on and then come back to we'll come back to that later. Okay. Have time. Okay.

Yep. Absolutely. All right. Okay. Um, I do need a five minute executive session regarding non-elected personnel in the maintenance department to include myself, commission council, and uh, maintenance director David. Please, I'll move to recess into executive session to discuss personnel matters of non-elected personnel regarding maintenance for five minutes to include commission counsel, maintenance department director, and HR. So, we'll come back at 2:00. I'll second the motion. All those in favor? I I motion carried.

We're back in session and no action was taken. Okay, I'll make a motion to approve the hiring of one part-time mechanic assistant at maintenance rather at the wage listed on the action form effective 56 2026. I'll need another five minute um non-elected executive session um regarding the jail um to include commission council and myself.

I move to recess into executive session to discuss personal matters of non-elected personnel regarding the jail for five minutes include commission counsel and HR and we will come back at 206. I'll second the motion. All those in favor? I I motion carried

I'll move to recess into executive session to discuss personnel matters of non-elected personnel regarding road and bridge for 20 minutes to include commission council road and bridge director and HR. We'll come back at 2:30. I'll second the motion. All those in favor? I I motion carried. Thank you.

Okay, we're back in session. Okay, let me find my paper real quick.

I would like to be I'll sign. I think that one for some reason is the second one. Um it's a different I don't know why there's different versions out there. Mine is yours. Yes. I'll make a motion to hire part-time noxious weed director as the wage listed on action form effective [sighs] 56 of 2026. I'll second the motion. All those in favor? I I motion carried. I feel like this deserves like an arsenal hall like whoop whoop, you know, since we haven't had one for a while.

All right. Yes, it's good to have that position. Important decision. Okay. Um let's see. Gail, you are next on the list for interviews and I have one for 911 if you're available. on um Monday the 11th. Next Monday. Yes, I'm available.

Um All right. I Nope, I got one more thing. Friday, I do have a Zoom with the Arnold group to um make start the budget stuff for this year. They're going to show me how to work the new um platform which is web- based. So, we'll get all that taken care of and I'm kind of excited to see it because this spreadsheet is a little complicated. So, here's hoping it's a lot easier. And now I think that's it. Do you guys have anything for me? So, talking about the budget, um I I guess um the timeline as far as maybe you'll find this out Friday, the um when of course part of the budget is going to be um what we decide on increases, whether we do merit increases, you know, and a uh cost of living sorry um or whether we do a percentage more of the 40% that we did so

or nothing depending on money right so I guess the timeline like have you spoke with department heads as far as doing their evaluations um I personally have not had any other conversations [clears throat] since that meeting with all the departments. Um I know that there are one, two, three, four, five, six. We don't have evaluations. There's nobody to evaluate an elected official. So that No, he's I think you're getting to her their staff, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. The elected officials will do their staff. Okay.

Yeah, because those are all non-elected um individuals. I know. I understood what she was getting. Sorry, I thought you were talking I knew you were want talking about their staff. So, yeah. No, absolutely. They're they're doing them. Um well, I do have some concerns, I guess, of department heads getting those done. One thing is with this, I guess we're calling it supervisors um training that starts the 1 of June that Greg has gotten together. I I asked him I'm like does evaluations like come in the first couple of weeks you know because when people haven't done evaluations before I think it's difficult and it could be more harm than it does good

right if it's not done right correct so it actually is class number eight down the list but I do have concerns about everyone being able to do this

um efficiently So, there's a couple of options. We could everyone still do them as like a practice um just to get the feel of it. I mean, because you know how to I'm hoping all of our department heads based on what I know about them have the ability to communicate, you know, positives and negatives. Um um you could we could go ahead and do them for May. Um and then just have them as like a baseline. It's like a gray paper. I've seen um some people have said they used it like in the 90s. No, early 2000s. [snorts] Mid 2000s. Okay. Mid 2000s. So, you know, so it wasn't ours. A while ago.

It was ours. Anyone have Do you have any of those? I have some blank ones that somebody left or I found. I don't know where. Um have those been shared with Mike? There should be some in the personnel files somewhere. I can some of the older I don't want to say. I don't think Mike has seen them then. Have you seen the old evaluation sheets?

None of the department I mean I I wouldn't just specifically show to Mike. I would actually show to all department heads. Um but I don't know where we'd order them from and I don't know that we'd have them in a timely manner. I don't even know if the information on them applies because they are from the mid-200s. I just know I have them like six or seven of them. So I think for the first one, if they've never done them, then it should be pretty simple of it's just communicating with our staff, you know, letting them voice their opinions and us, you know, from our viewpoint, make sure we're on the same page as to even what their job is, I guess.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's what it and that's why we have that one sheet that the department heads are able to like make changes on. So they can put, you know, okay, job description, are you this? This is what you're supposed to be doing. Is this, you know, I'm not seeing you do this. You know, let's make improvements here or you're doing great. But every department head has made their changes. I shouldn't say every the majority of the department heads have already made their changes and they're working with their people on their job descriptions. No, on the the onepage review that Greg sent as an example. [clears throat] Um, health department noxious weed.

Noxious weed maintenance. Yeah. Yeah. All the um

so it's something we absolutely need to do. And ironically on my um Folston and Cifkin or Cifkin um law training last week, uh there were cases specifically dedicated to the fact that there were no performance reviews in the personnel file and how court cases went. Um because there was no I mean there was no like you want to fire them because their nose is funny, but you go to their per their folder and they've got maybe one or two and they both say you met the standard. Um, and if you want to fire them and you have nothing, um, you know, that therein lies an issue. And we have I've been trying to get this done since I started here, but there's always been resistance. So,

well, I Yeah, I definitely think it does. I just think the training will help. Absolutely. Hopefully that everyone can attend that. It's just going to be not one of the first things Yeah. that we get training on.

That is a concern. I I fully agree because um not having that experience, you're going to have individuals who are like, well, you know, I think you get a raise and you get a raise and you get a raise. Like we have to understand the difference between like exceeds expectations versus meets standards versus needs improvement. Um, having that training will put everybody on the same page so that way they're evaluating that should have um because I'm pretty darn close to the treasurer and road and bridge by Friday. Like honest to goodness, like they should have everything with like the reviews and stuff on it like making sure there's no issues with them and then with their corrections. Okay.

Um, yeah. There's just been a lot of things. I can't go into some of them. We've talked about some of them, but everything takes So that leads me to us. The commission needs to do evaluations for department heads. Um there is concern that has been shared about that. Um there have those that have communicated feel that it should be all commissioners putting input and not just one.

Oh yeah. Um, and then the question has been asked like, and I don't know how to say this without being direct, so I apologize, but do is it known exactly what we do on a day-to-day basis? Like, how can you evaluate if you may not know exactly what we do all the time? So, in your packet, well, we have a job description. And in your packet, I didn't mean it to offend Gail. It was just I'm conveying.

Yeah. No, no, I'm just um so in your packet I have put a evaluation sheet that I came up with because we haven't done these before. I guess you guys have done these before and I apologize that I didn't get one for you. Um well, you can look at this. So basically I think we do need to start at page one and my so page one is um please give me your three department heads we each in individually fill these out for these out for the seven that we're going to evaluate and then we come together and then we can talk about it.

Do you want us to fill them out before you fill yours out so you can see what our thoughts are and then I guess I could we could scan them and send them to you guys. You want to do it? I think they should be separate. Okay. Yeah, we do it before we see your thoughts. Okay. Um I think that that makes it Well, they could get this form, we have their form, then we'll have the same form. We have the same form for us and see what their comments are and we can compare to ours. Yeah. Yeah. I guess because I think it's just getting on the same page. We just haven't sat down and like what is your job? Maybe I don't know. You know what really happens? There is some underwater basket weaving happening in my office, just in case you didn't know.

That's okay. I'm just kidding. [laughter] So, I guess it's only your department. I'm kidding. Yeah. Um, so that's what I just if you guys want to look this over. Um, there's five um supervisory factors. They're leadership, delegation, administration, personnel management, and adaptability. And then the third part is just some goals and objectives and maybe those we could do together after we do the first two. Um so it's I don't know it's not really an evaluation to me. It's just getting on the same page.

It's a performance review. So think of it more that way instead of just a because an evaluation is something that you would do yourself and you would be like okay this is this is what I'm giving you. But as a performance review when just because we also have budget stuff going on. So that's kind of what we did. We set like time frames and said we'll do two or three this week, two or three. Okay. Unless and I don't know if you can do this because I'm not versed on all the rules and regulations, but do a [clears throat and snorts] special meeting and on a different day and we just get everybody knocked out um like we do budgets. Um, I don't know if that's an option, but I could. Yeah. I mean, that's we need to like it's budget time, right?

We need to figure these things out. But if we're going to do evaluations and it's part of the wage study, then we have to do our department heads off. Oh, absolutely. So, um, if you want to look that over and then figure out times that we have, whether we, you know, do it separate. We already have the 28th set aside for department heads to come to talk to us about budgets. Yeah. And it's going to be a long day. that commission meeting after. Yeah, that was moved from June 30. Huh? It was moved from June 30th. Yeah. Right.

So, yeah, we do have commissions on the 19th and then we have one on the following Thursday. That's right. Or I don't know if it's feasible to come in before the commission meeting and knock a couple out like on the 19th. 19th to see a problem coming. Oh, I can't come. Oh, wait. Yeah, I can. Sorry. And I kind of would like to do them closer and have it. I think we should wait until the all the wait until the all the commission approves it. The form the form. Okay.

Do you want to read it or I trust it? Looks fairly sta standard. So I'm not It's something I came up with myself so I don't know. I mean, not the second part, but the first part, I think that's really what I would like to see. So, I'm not opposed to using as a totally get a full form. I mean, we're running out of time and Yeah. Okay. Honestly, it looks really good. It's got the exactly what you need to hit on.

Okay. Um, sorry. I'm trying to find another form that I did come up with, but I don't think I brought it with me. It's about the same length as what I what I remember cuz So, yeah, that that one three or four pages. I know that, but they were long paragraphs. Yeah, you had to read them. There was like quite a bit of uh written material and then Yeah, I was like that's that seems a little complicated for some I mean a good chunk of the employees not because they're not

Randy Neely had all mind cuz that's when I left office the last time it was I had a filing cabinet was mine you know so well okay I just know I'll just say that the two department heads that were here that are um had given me their concerns also And I did come up with like a onepage evaluation for them. I think you're on the same page and then you realize oh yeah. So I personally don't I I have no sympathy on that one. I'm like you evaluate yourself like it's not so anyway I was just helping them to have something simple because the one the one that I saw and the one that they saw from Greg but Greg was like four or five pages long.

I don't remember being that and it wasn't and again I think these department heads need to the instructions. Yeah. again ask you know are we on the same page as what your responsibility is and maybe it's just getting the job description out and going over that and you know how are you doing right you know and this is how we see you but right and having the supervisors actually be involved in that too

it's absolutely important to have supervisors because ultimately the supervisor should be helping with those reviews because they actually will be out seeing the people doing the work um and then the you know the department head comes back and looks them over and if they see something that they don't doesn't quite you know click then you have that conversation with the supervisor and maybe the employee and be like well ultimately this is what I see so okay I just wanted the commission to be aware of I'm not for sure if this is going to get done by the end of May you know it's it's a be done yeah correctly and

I think it could work into June and I'm really excited about the leadership training training. I think that will help get us all on the same page at this time. I don't know if the evaluation just because some people have done them for years and then other ones right I've never actually done I don't know if it's ever been done on me so I had thought about it but um it was a last minute thought that I had before that understand we have a different objective in this thing we we we have to do it more objective right position yep might not always agree with you as department but you got to see where we come as commissioners Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that's all. But

okay. Um Yep. We're a work in progress, but we are getting there. Yes, we're headed in the right direction. Yes, we are. Um do you think you'll need me for anything else for this meeting? I'd like to go back up to payroll if that's okay. I don't I don't think so. Okay. Well, I am just a phone call away if you do. You're free to go. Okay. Thanks, Paul. All right. You guys have a good rest of your afternoon. You too, Cindy. All right, [sighs] Mike. She huffed off a big when you said your name. So, [laughter] it took us a while to get here. We were getting good and then

Yeah, we're going to move. It's always a snag somewhere. Okay, you and Cindy. [laughter] Well, I've got a quite a bit, but I'll try to hurry. So most of it we've already covered. Uh and the employee evaluation, just to be clear, we're going to put that off for a little bit. Yeah. Well, okay. In your case. Good. Yes. We'll get it figured out though. But we have been talking and I make it simple you but you get a chance to and that's where you could actually if co be or he as might be involved in some of those evaluations

on the asphalt overlay on Elk Road uh Tibetus uh payment application number two in the amount of 75 $5,918.95. I have a copy of that for each of you. And I also have um a motion and I have one copy that needs to be signed. I'll make the motion approve the final payment for overlay. play and rock wedge on Elk Road for the completion of the bridge and road resurfacing project.

I'll second it. All those in favor? I I motion carried. Okay. Thank road tag. Get your signature there. Thank you. Is just just a heavily used road. And so that's just a really nice project that I'm sure Nick thought would never come to fruition. doing it debtree is um it is just really I think

I think the business is on that stretch on the north end of town. If you've not been by either pets, you can't already get gas there because they're usually lined up. Good. So then on rest of that page are the other projects that we have going. the seventh road overlay or 70th road overlay on the on the west half and then which will be another nice addition to the south part of the county.

Oh yeah, we got to get that done and then the bridge deck overlays which I think is probably the next project that's going to get done so far. That's the cost that we have. And then that we also have the 30th road bridge um which has not gone out yet for for the contractors. That's an estimate. And then the North Island Bridge um there. So that's actually how much money that we have committed to. If you'll see on how much road sales tax revenue that we've actually collected, you can see that last year we collected 1.7 And this year so far we've collected 581,000. So we're averaging probably aboutund 35 130,000

cost of the projects or the projects that we have underway projects that we have underway. Um I think there's maybe one bridge in my district of the overlays. Technically the north elk is in district two. So I would like to when we start to see that we you know have more money again that we look at district three uh for a project. I have some ideas for you. Just saying. Okay. Good. I'm just saying I do. We've done really good with district two. I totally agree. I totally agree.

So, um, you [snorts] know, something that we do with the city of Shenude or something, but it will be six months, a year from now before we can really commit again. But these projects are great. I have no problem with it. And I think it's been a very good asset. So, I just wanted those. Everyone knows where we're at and where how much that first project cost us. So, well worth it. I know about six miles up in your area that could be done. Okay. Do you know if uh Allen County is going to stripe their side of the road? Hasn't been striped yet, but

I don't know. That would be nice. It's only a mile. I'd like to call the guy to ask. Okay. We need to make sure we put those into Neoso County. So they don't think we went on. [laughter] So another thing I have talked to Mike about just why we're here is that when I was over in Branson, I don't know last year, whatever, they act I have it in my picture somewhere. Yeah. I need to print it out and then I need to print it out and then we can get an idea if you guys are interested in doing that. But,

you know, we could do that in the next few years. We could actually, you know, put those on a new project or something. If we have three, one for each district, then we could, you know, move those around our district as we do different projects. So, that shouldn't be very cost or completed due to road sales tax or whatever. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm done. Sorry.

No, you're fine. and it all needs talked about and these are some very nice projects and it's it's good to to make a real difference in some of these projects. We've made huge improvements on them and and you know we should all be proud to be a part of that. So, um, okay. My next item is, I know we've talked about this for quite a while, is uh, uh, the dust abatement for the unofficial detour road for the 59 highway, uh, Union Pacific Railroad overpass project going on at the just north of Parsons. And I've got a cost estimate. Well, it's not supposed to be an estimate. is supposed to be the actual cost to treat the roads that we u propose and it's in the amount of $76,219. Um and I have the list of roads on there. Nick and I visited with Kod about that about a week and a half ago. on that Friday morning

the end of the year we can come up with some funds but I think we need to just do it right I would agree in our discussions with Kat we we have back and forth but doing this part we'll have this part hopefully ironed out when we're yeah I mean I and they always reimburse us whether it's the full amount or not they we We we had some discrepancies in Yeah.

the amount of roads we're looked I know I sent this to you in the email, but here's a hard copy of their proposal as far as and I did respond to that and ask them for uh more money for the asphalt patching because we spent a considerable amount more than that uh getting it ready for this project last summer.

One of our things was they wanted they had approved a dust abatement for 40th road which is a hard surface road but they left off 30th. So we were kind of back and forth with but they really didn't want to take care of 30th but they were going to do a hard service road. So that's what me me and we had we had a productive meeting. It's not that it's just and then we had the discussion of patching we just patched on that Queens Road what a year and a half ago

of the asphalt all the fuel labor and traffic control to to do all this. So there's a significant amount more Yeah. Than what's on this number? But I mean that's what we spent.

Yeah. So hopefully they'll reconsider. I asked them to and and we'll we'll see what I I haven't heard back from yet. So, um, make you want me to your district.

All right. I'll make a motion to approve the proposal from Scottwood Industries to apply magnesium chloride to the unofficial detail roads in Yosho County listed in the proposal for the 59 highway union Pacific Railroad overpass replacement project in the mount of $76,219 delivered and applied to on site to be taken out of just road and bridge be taken out road and bridge I'll second All those in favor? I motion carried. And then if we need to, we can look at that. We just remember we pace whatever reimbursement get back to their department. Okay.

No, whatever we get reimbured from this K dot we'll re put back in. Yeah. Is actually credited to the expense account. And I think it probably does need to be done because I drove it Ottawa Road. Mike, uh, Lebec county's got no through trucks, you know, $500 fine, you know, $500 fine, and they're still going down it, you know. So, if you don't enforce it, there's no use putting it up. I I talked to one of their commissioners and he said they were going to allow local trucks through, and it's like, well, how do you segregate that? Uh, and that's why on our end, we have to let those local trucks through. You got to give them a route. And so

I feel it's the right thing to do. Just let them It's a lot easier to fix a gravel road than it is a paved road. Yeah. And we've got to let them through. So we considered the either just leaving it with nothing on there like we've done or issuing permits, which can get really tricky. I'm didn't really want to do that, but it is an option. Uh and I think it's it's not going too bad right now. Uh I know the sheriff's office they've ticketed a few trucks on Queens Road and I think once that happens you write a few ticket the word gets out pretty quickly. Sure.

And that stop sign Mike on the county line they put up on Ottawa uh right there county line Yosho County line uh they've been running that stop sign. I heard that officer gave out 30 tickets. Oh, right that stop sign. Somebody ran over a while back, too. So, I didn't want to get a ticket. Yeah, but uh Yeah, it's take it. Anyway, it's we'll get through it. We um and then while they're Excuse me. Yep. Go ahead.

While they're in town, we're going to u do a field check. on the North Island Bridge plans. They've got the preliminary plans drawn up and we just go out there and look things over and make sure everything's going to kind of fit the way that it should. And um we'll do that on Monday also. So that's all I have on my list. That's awesome. I don't I don't know how long they'll take on those overlays. I don't look for them to last all that long.

Last? What? What do you mean by last? You mean to be done? Be done. Yeah, they should be They shouldn't take much to So, do they have to close those roads? Yes, they will for like a day or I I don't know. It'll be more than a day. It'll probably Oh, really? Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not, you know, maybe a month or so. Yeah. How sick are they Oh, really? putting on it, right? Six inch deck. Six inches to probably a month now with with rebar on foot centers. Cool. That's going to But this needs to be done. I mean, this will extend the life of those bridges. A lot cheaper than build a new bridge, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, you're good.

I think you walked out about the time that I mentioned that we were going to do the field check on the North Island Bridge on the North Island Bridge project. Yeah. So, they've got the preliminary drawings and we'll just go down there and look at it one more time before they That's all I have on my list. I got one thing like I had a call U60th and Elk going west to that low water bridge. Okay.

Yeah, there's a piece of concrete probably this big around that's missing. So, probably needs I don't know, probably some quickrete. I don't know, maybe put some fly ash on top so it set up quick or asphalt at least. But it's pretty good size. Is that the deck we're overlaying? No. Oh, okay. It's a low water crossing. Oh, gotcha. It's It needs We've got lots of low water crossings that need help.

Have we heard anything back on Shaw Bridge over the Neos? They reinspected that and said that it now CFS reinspected it and said that it does not require posting. Um, I asked the guy that did the inspecting if he had sent that information on to KOT. I haven't heard back from him on that because and I'll I'll think K say we needed it posted.

I've had a discussion. Yes, we have a weight limit restriction that they sent down for their inspection that dropped it down to 27 tons. Yeah, we could take a $10 load across it as any question about the strength [clears throat] of it. And so they paid a contractor to go in there, put those stairs in, and

that was supposed to take care of the problem, which I think it did. I don't think it really was a problem. They just changed the standards on what was acceptable and what wasn't. And uh anyway, I don't know how uh the last person that inspected it for K dot, it wasn't CFS, how they derived at this thing needing to be posted at 27 tons, but uh they clearly did not agree with that and now they're saying it doesn't have to be posted. I haven't taken the signs down yet. We just

Yeah, don't go. But uh I I kind of wanted to wait and make see what Kott had to say about that before we took the signs down because I don't want to get in any trouble with Kot and jeopardize my concern that bridge is not even close to being to the right age of it to where we should start seeing a weight restriction. That thing should be good for another 50 years before we have to Yeah, I'll see what I can find out on that.

Go back to the bridge on 169 was built in 1986 84. Started 8485. Yeah, there's no weight restriction on those bridges up there. I I'll see what I can find out. All right. Some of you do. There's some don't.

So, are we okay with that? Do we just need to sign? Does someone have a purchase policy for the resolution for us to sign? Well, I have one, but I wrote on it. So, I I good with Paul. That That's not what I'm saying. And in concerning this, we had the issue possible conflict of interest reporting.

Uhu. I forward Brett a thing from Line County that's pretty descriptive on what would constitute a conflict of interest. I'll just have you printed that has to be disclosed to the commission or commission that work when the bill is presented and it's really descriptive and has teeth to it if you it was kind of not instead of reinventing the wheel they had they had a so I don't remember actually what's on the resolution we have the resolution and then we actually have the actual policy this would be something that would like go in the polic go in the policy. Yeah.

So, we probably want to add anything else to the person before we get the resolution adopted. Oh, interesting. Okay. It was it was pretty okay. So, we're getting that and Brett could for what I sent him. So, just something to look at. Sure. And it was with everything. I actually listened to a little news reporter that came up with it and he actually referenced this policy within Lying County. I thought, "Oh, this is pretty interesting." So, and it's pretty clear and straightforward, too. It's

Yeah, draws the lines and good. All right. So next on it it on unfinished business is the 27 budget. So I think we have department heads will be submitting their budgets the 22nd. Okay, which is right after our next meeting, but then we were going to meet on the 28th with everyone. So, I um [clears throat] would like to get a little bit more, I guess, detail on the budget as far as what we feel like our what we would like the budget to look like. Do we want to be within RNR, I guess, is the first question.

It's kind of hard to tell with not knowing where revenue is coming in a little bit. So, that that's my abstracts will be done June 1st, right? No, not till July. July for her date. Sorry. We'll have our mill levy or ev valuation and that'll help come and give us a value of how each mill will generate in income. So,

I think it's going to be difficult to do RNR. I think with what's coming up at the state with property tax and who knows what in this next session that I think it would be best if we thanks um I would like I would like to actually have each department give us

like their long-term any long-term experience uh expenses that they have for the next two years. We could look at that and maybe look at five years. Uh but I think we have some pretty critical things coming up that if we don't start tackling them now with this money that we have again, we're going to be going out for bonds. we're going to be, you know, having interest and we have this chance here if we set some goals and we look at the whole county of, you know, what needs to be done that I think that needs to be part of our budget session of what we could do with that million dollars or $2 million. But I mean, I think I probably could come up with that myself, but I think

Well, I know where some would go too, right? um some immediate things, but I would like if the clerk could ask the department heads to with their budgets give us like a projection of the next two years of high dollar maintenance or uh capital projects, I guess would be.

Yeah. Capital improvement projects that each department may have or let's do two years and five years. Um I know it's hard to do five years but we we need to start looking at that. Uh so we have our sixth contribution this year. So then in seven we'll have seven eight nine we want to do in the next two years. What projects do you want to see done that we could use that money uh to again to keep our debt down? Um, and then we just need to be working on the wage study and seeing how that all falls in place. So, we'll just have to see when we get the numbers. I am in no hurry to get the budget done. I guess [laughter] I just want it to be right. I want it to be well thought out. So, I know there's deadlines, but

we've gone beyond our deadlines before. Oh, yeah. did Randy like every year. We've asked for extension, ask for extension. So, like I'm saying, I just wanted to be right. I think October 5th is about the latest. Yeah. I don't think we ever hit November, but we did hit anyway. Okay. So, back to the purchasing policy. I have the original. This is the original that we got, right? Or this is at the end of the last meeting, but it doesn't have the new doesn't have the additions in it. Well, we signing this one. I mean, technically, this one's already been approved in a motion. It just needed the signatures,

right? I I I think that we should approve the resolution as is. We can change the policy, right? Let us do that. Yeah. The resolution is not the policy, right? Yeah. So, all they need to do is sign since we have motion in last meeting. Okay. So again, that doesn't really give the I think you have it I sent you. We put out I'll try to print but I can't do it from here. Okay. Wireless. Okay. Okay. Let me see here.

So what resolution was this again? I have it. Do you have it written on that one? just let you guys are be able to read that cuz I thought it was quite interesting. So yeah,

I brought the old one.

Too many papers. I thought it was D, but Sorry, I'm not finding it at the moment. Okay, whatever we said last time. Okay, so that takes care of unfinished business. Um so first quarter financial reports they should be in your packet

and I'd also like to discuss on that as well. Yep. You had some information also. Yes. So overall you can see that at the end of the first quarter we should be at 25%. We're at 27.13, but as you can see, outside entities are at 50%. So, most of our departments are pretty close to budget budget, which is I the report that I highlighted for you. Okay. Oops.

So, this is what gets sub gets submitted over to the newspaper every quarter. I went through and I started reading which funds we have listed. It's not making much sense of what we have versus what we actually use. So, I'd like to get a list by next meeting. That way, I can get this real, I guess, on what funds we actually want listed for the for the newspaper.

So, Okay. Are these the ones that you'd like to put on there? No. Oh,

I don't know which ones you would like to see because this is all that was posted from the clerk's office. Uh the funings that you see here. There is another one that treasurer post each quarter as well. And she has every single one posted. So, it's not a selection. I'm not sure why they're two different. So, I'd like to match up with the treasur's office. That way, it makes sense. Yeah. So, did we always put it that way or is the treasur's office expanded since Gabby took over? It's always been that way. Okay.

Gabby has not been able to get her reported. So, I think Gabby's more of

hers is the revenue side of it. Yours is expens 19-228 provided in this section for county commissioner shall cost be at the end of each calendar or if the county commissioner will provide at the end of each month an itemized statement of all sums of money allowed in excess in excess of $50 for what purpose during the preceding quarter or month. Whatever wages employed by the publication statements are published once in the newspaper qualifications required by system 4101. In li of publishing an itemized statement of expenditures required by subsection A. The board commissioners may publish a summary of expenditures from each fund and the cash balance of each fund at the beginning and close of each of the quarter or month is appropriate. If summary of expenditures is published as authorized by the subsection, a notice should be included that a detailed statement of expenditures is available for public inspection at the county clerk's office.

So, so anything with an expense a fund. Yeah. But it' be in summary of that quarter. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. No, I've been running off of pretty much what CIC has for now. Uh the state uh the statement is so it should even be published if it's not current prior to audit adjustments is listed in that. Oh, so well so until we get it cleaned up, it's it's on record that

Okay, more new business appointing representative to the CRDA board. So, I have been in contact and I think they sent out emails. Um, so that's not it. Sorry. Since we do contribute to CRDA, they are asking us to appoint a board member. Um, and I think this has been done in the past because they are trying to expand what they're doing. I don't know if you've listened to the presentation that she gave to Shenoot, but she is wanting to do the whole county, not just do Shenoot Regional is what it's called, but they are looking to expand economic development within the whole county. And um so I think it would be in our best interest to appoint someone um and then we can see from year to year if we're still contributing to them. So

like I'm just saying all right this is a current board member so it'll be interesting and the next meeting is next week so I file not you're being appointed huh too much you're being appointed

so I don't know how that will affect our Wednesday afternoon meetings with the uh leader leadership training. But anyway, we'll work it out. I think it's it's time to get involved. They're reshaping everything and and this new director, Stacy Davis, really has some good ideas and a lot of background and I think we'll improve the whole county. Hopefully, we need to have a voice on it. So, and then appointing a representative to mental health board juvenile service. We have something in here about this. So Debbie Higinbottom's term on the advisory board will expire on April 30th. She is willing to serve as the mental health representative on the board of the 31st judicial district for another two years. So we just either need to reappoint her.

Yeah. And this is different than the detention center. Correct. That was kind of confused me when they emailed. I wanted to make sure there were two different things. Yeah. So, this is a 31st judicial district. Um, I'll second the motion. All those in favor? I I motion carried.

Okay, I have a few more things in my pile here. Okay, mortorium for the data center. So, There was a lot of talk um at the KCCA meeting. So um there's a couple of sheets in your packet. There's a sheet here and actually Chassity was the one that had sent this to us from uh Acres Strong Advisory. Anyway, they were there. They do advisory counseling or consulting with counties, cities, whatever that are working with energy companies. And so they came, but this is a really good sheet of what counties need to do. Um, so there's a few things here that we can um kind of include of something, but I think the moratorum we just need to put in place that hey, we're looking at this

and I don't know I have a draft one that tweak it a little bit. Okay. It refers to zoning and things of that nature. Okay. We don't have to deal with but use the same language as the solar wind energy. Okay. And this the ones that I haven't found one that had data centers and battery centers. So I'm going to take the language from a couple of them and the definitions and plug them in together. Basically, it's adjacent to the area. They already got I mean, if we do do a moratorium, we need to actually be working at these and setting some guidelines, some guidelines down. That's what the moratorium's for. It's not just a

So, I think we should just put it all in one. Okay.

Um I think Ford County get something from Ford County. they put like a three-year and they're going to every year they go through like wind do solar the next year and um so yeah I think it's something that we just need to work on and be aware of because they're basically said there's going to be companies coming. So on this second sheet I just put down here this is what the city of Shenoot has done to me if you're going to bring a data center in the city of Shenoot seems like a good place to put it anyway back in February they actually uh put in this ordinance uh basically they didn't want if a data center came in they didn't want the people with the utilities in Shinoot to have to pay pay a higher price

because their service yeah and so they've put that in to me, which is I don't know if anyone's talking to them or not. Um, but it seems with the Mosha River that close and with with them owning their utilities, they probably are easier to deal with than like Everg or someone else out in the county. And water usage I hear is pretty substantial. Uh, they can use three million gallons a day or something. I don't know. Well, they regulated car wash horses during drought. So why you you come to you imagine what 3 million gallons were so um yeah

it's very so it's just something that we need to keep a breast of I wanted to let you guys I wanted to let you guys know that we did receive our $5,000 from Liberty for the yearly safety um that they're supposed to pay us. They've been behind. They paid us $25,000 last year to get caught up and then they're like, "Just call me when it's time." Um, so anyway, we did receive the 5,000. Haven't received the the million. So I don't know if you guys want to consider what we want to do with this 5,000. Well, it's in the district, isn't it? Our district. Yes.

Could we just give it to them? I mean, I don't know. It's not just theirs, is it? They would be the first call. Maybe there also. Yeah. So, I don't know if we want to have them like have a project that the $5,000 would go to. Well, we used it for Well, we did radios. The $25,000 basically went for radios that wasn't going to be a $5,000 thing, but that turned into the whole price. So, anyway, I just wanted you guys to be aware of that.

Reimbures for the amount of radios went over on those project. Yeah, just I I agree, but I was just like it was only going to be this much and expanded pretty rapidly. I have in here somewhere where the total cost was for the radios, but I don't know where I have that at. I have I did a sheet on it if you guys are curious how much I remember I remember you had it broke down. It was like, but when it was first presented, it was a $5,000 expensive balloon because we had to have repeaters and

the American Legion always does a always does a serum beverage for the Is it the bean feed or is it Yeah. Yeah. Bean bean feed week. I'll make the motion approve zero malt beverage for post American Legion Post 102 area Kansas July July the 13th through the 18th I'll second the motion all those in favor

I motion carries I think these dunes are going to be bigger this year because 250 years I seen St. Paul's mission day. It looks like they got a little more stuff done. So hopefully you're do the same thing. All right. You want to pass that to Chassity? Sure. Um there's a couple other things in your packet. Um you want to talk about the juvenile detention?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh this is not it. Well, we had a meeting the last uh week in April and this come up and I hadn't had a chance to talk to you guys about that. But uh uh McGomery County has been wanting to get out or talked about getting out ever since uh 2024 when they got a new commissioner and he thought it was a waste of money. And uh I don't know what they're going to do with their kids because if you They're sending them to Kansas City. Yeah. Well, they're going to have to pay and there's one with no bourbon, no Montgomery County, but uh

I think I listened to Bourbon County's I think they had a meeting yesterday. Yeah. Maybe Monday. So, I don't think Bourbon County is going to pull out. No, we had a commissioner, a new commissioner because they got five now. Correct. And he [clears throat] came over and he's for staying in. Yeah. And he said he's got one guy that probably would go with him. me said just need just need one more vote, you know, but I'm they talked about it at this last meeting and it sounds like that the juvenile detention at this point will not up our fees um for the next year because of these outside entities that they're getting

and they're going to maybe try to pull in some other counties. So, I think there's 10 counties um but they they think it'll be fine that they'll be able to absorb it. Well, I think we're going to go out and try to talk to some other counties to get them to join. Yeah. And plus, Mike's working on this rest care, secure rest care, which that's where kids would go out to Witchah instead of staying here and they'd be at the juvenile detention center, but it be a separate place for like six or seven beds and the state will pay us pay the juvenile attention for that.

Well, I still think it's important to keep these kids u close. I think to have them close to Neo and their parents having access to them. I think what I've worked with I think shipping children off to Kansas City or something that's not beneficial to the to these kids that are in crisis and to the families that are in crisis. So I think we should do you know what we can to to support uh join us because if they look at that and say hey look at all this money we're spending for these kids. Maybe we ought to join. I think we're guaranteed so many beds whether we fill them or not with being a member or whatever

compared to someone that has to call around and try to figure out where kids go. Yeah. And senser. Well, I mean McGomery County is a long ways from Gerard compared to us. Well, they're taking all they can say then that plus they have to worry about transportation to get them there.

Well, so it goes back to I think that if you look at at their history, they have not filled their beds. So, they felt like they were paying a higher price for something they weren't actually using. That goes back to county attorney in my opinion. Anyway, okay. But I still support them. I'm glad you're on the board. So, one other sheet that's in there, I did fill out the outside entities of how much everyone requested for this year. So, you guys can compare those to the previous years. Okay.

So, at some point when the budget comes up, we'll have that sheet. And then another thing I guess back with the the quarterly budget uh she did print off the courthouse general. So in previous years we've had trouble with staying within our courthouse general budget. I think we did up it a little bit this year anyway but we're right at budget here but we're right at budget here. So, well, and there's the additional 4,000

existed in 2024 and then also now and they gave us certain parameters for it. So, but they have instead of me signing it, it's the three of you, but which is I've never seen one that way. It's just it it's just weird. But I went ahead and just uh so I could satisfy it so I could give this to Gabby so she can send it off the auditors. I just put together the two cases that we've had in district court since that time and how they were resolved. They wanted things like, you know, how much money they were indebted to us for at that time. I don't care. [snorts] That's just ridiculous. Look that stuff. I mean, so anyway, so I prepared this and then we get everybody sign this. I'll drop it off to Gabby or Chass give it to Gabby. But that should be the last thing the auditors need at this point. But just you can read my little summary on the second page. But once all three I've just never had one of those where they're asking me for the data but then they want the three of you to sign it. There was no place for me to sign it. And so I went ahead and just signed what I prepared and just weird. The whole thing reads weird.

Is this chairman of today or December 24? Yeah. Yeah. Again, huh? Do we really need to sign it? Well, so Gabby can get it to them and they'll get off I'll put her back on it. I guess I'll sign it up today. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I just never seen one that way. We do for audits every cities and stuff. It's just never makes no sense. Yeah. But this

for taxo similar to our last tax,

but I can send it to you real fast. Hold on. She has it's pretty much the same contract we previously signed with her. But if we want to get this done before the first or right at the first of next year, we're going to have to Sorry. both of them

kind of renewal the same contract. So I'll just the time frame from when we can have we need to be starting to have it by the first of the year. Sure. Hi. happened. Just came

We're back in session and no action was taken. Okay, I'll make a motion to journ the meeting. Second. All those in favor? I. Motion carries. Three to zero. We'll be back here on the 19th. 19th. 13 days. 19th. 19th. 30 days.