Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Good evening everyone and welcome to the first neighborhood meeting for the traffic relief project in Sanitario Road.

My name is Chase Fuquay.

I work for Kim Lee Horn on behalf of INDOT for the traffic relief program. I am here in Metro Nashville. This is A public meeting and on the next slide you can see the agenda. In general, we will do the following. We are part of the traffic relief program and this is a meeting that we hold for each of the projects. We will give you a typical overview of the program. We will talk specifically about the Sanitarium Road. We will go through some of the typical tools from the tool box for traffic relief. We have created a preliminary design concept that we present to you, to which we will get your feedback and explain the next project steps. Falls Sie diese Aufzeichnung nachträglich auf YouTube ansehen, möchten wir natürlich auch Ihr Feedback hören. Es gibt einen QR-Code auf der Seite, der auf engage.nashville.gov slash trafficcoming verweist. Dort ist derzeit eine Umfrage zu diesem Projekt offen. Wir würden uns sehr über Feedback freuen, auch wenn Sie heute Abend nicht live dabei sein können.

Ich werde dir etwa zehn Folien kurz durchgehen.

Ich werde versuchen, Sie zunächst zügig durchzugehen. Und dann werden wir eine Pause für einige Diskussionen einlegen. Dies soll definitiv eine interaktive Präsentation und ein Treffen heute Abend sein. Vielen Dank, dass Sie hier sind. Fangen wir an. Was ist also Verkehrsberuhigung? In the context of the NSTC, i.e. the Nashville Traffic Relief Program, we focus on residential roads in contrast to larger collection or main roads. We focus on physical solutions in the course of the road. The actual goal is to reduce speed. A small step back to traffic reassurance and the program in general. On a larger level, the US Ministry of Transport introduced the so-called Safe Systems Approach a few years ago. It is an extensive, multi-lane approach, as we as experts, elected representatives and governments, deal with traffic safety and reduce deadly and severe injuries on our roads. Speed plays a big role. The traffic calming program for Nashville covers many of these areas. Safe speeds are in the first place, but other aspects such as safe roads, people and accident prevention play a role. And that plays directly into Vision Zero. Many governments, municipalities and districts in the USA have taken over the so-called Vision Zero. That's basically it. an obligation of our elected officials and governments to deal with severe and fatal injuries. Reducing or eliminating road traffic and speed play a major role in this. As you can see in the graphic on the screen, speed, the probability of a fatal or severe injury, increases with increasing vehicles, not only for people in the car, but definitely also for those outside the car, such as pedestrians or cyclists. The higher the speed of a collision, the greater the intuitive probability that it will lead to a serious or fatal injury. The program for traffic calming in Nashville is also in line with these overarching principles. Here are some information about the program. It is a pretty popular program. Over 600 streets have been in our application pool since last spring. The Sanitarium Road was part of the selection of the spring of 2016. It is one of 25 selected roads that are currently going through a similar process. On the right you can see an excerpt from the traffic calming tracker. This is a live view of all running, closed or in different phases of traffic calming projects in Nashville-Davidson County. And you can find that under trafficcomic.nashville.com. Es lohnt sich, dort vorbeizuschauen, falls Sie es noch nicht kennen. Ich möchte auch immer gerne auf Hub Nashville hinweisen. Falls Sie Hub Nashville noch nicht kennen, es ist die zentrale Anlaufstelle für die Kommunikation mit Metro und Indoor bei Problemen, die Ihnen auf Ihrer Straße auffallen. Priorisierung der Verkehrsberuhigung. Dies ist ein datengestützter Prozess. As I already mentioned, we have over 600 applications in our application pool. As soon as applications for roads come in, we go through them and collect data for most of them. record traffic and speed data. You can see how these are weighted by the calculation of the calculation of the different roads. The speed and the traffic of the vehicles make up most of the weighting in the calculation from ANGEL. But also factors such as the accident history for pedestrians and cyclists play a role and preventions for non-car drivers. For example, is there already a road there? Not yet. And then the destination and distribution, which we call traffic, i.e. whether schools, churches or similar, are in a certain distance from the road. All these things basically flow into a formula that we have refined in order to make a choice where certain streets stand out particularly. Sanitarium was one of the 25 best-rated streets last spring. Okay. The project we're talking about tonight is the Sanitarium Road. More precisely, the area from Nyes Bend to Academy Road. Here are some of the data we have collected. The 85 percentile speed is at 35 miles per hour. The traffic is quite low with only about 100 cars per day. The road is 18 to 21 feet right. This is an excerpt from the traffic reassurance tracker that shows the Sanitarium Road in the vicinity. We see here other traffic control projects for which applications may have been made. However, I believe that this is one of the first projects in this small area. So, um ... Yes, normally we take a break here so that you can report what you experience on the Sanitarium Road every day, whether it is about excessive speed or other problems that you notice there. Bitte fühlen Sie sich frei, Ihr Mikrofon einzuschalten, sich kurz vorzustellen und uns Ihre Gedanken mitzuteilen.

Mein Name ist Jennifer und ich lebe seit... Ich war besorgt, als meine Tochter klein war und dort mit dem Fahrrad fuhr oder zu Fuß unterwegs war. Als sie älter wurde, sorgte ich mich um die anderen Kinder, die morgens oder nachmittags auf der Straße laufen. Und jetzt habe ich einen Hund und bin sehr besorgt, weil die Leute Sanitarium anscheinend für eine geheime Rennstrecke halten. Sie rasen einfach hindurch, weil es der schnellste Weg nach Neues Bend oder zum Ziel ist. Selbst wenn ich durch Handzeichen signalisiere, sie sollen langsamer fahren, winken sie mir nur zu ich, muss mir also eine andere Geste überlegen. Aber es ist tatsächlich ziemlich konstant schnell dort. Ich bin überrascht, dass es nur 100 Autos am Tag sind, aber ich bin natürlich nicht die ganze Zeit. vor Ort. Aber die andere Sache, die mir Sorgen bereitet oder der Grund, warum mich das beunruhigt, sind nicht nur Kinder und Haustiere, sondern die vielen Kurven auf der Straße, sodass man von Niels B. über Center bis zur Academy Road nichts sehen kann. An verschiedenen Stellen ist es, also ich meine, Dinge sind verborgen. Man muss also wirklich gut zuhören, um sicherzugehen, dass man hört, was kommt, wenn man es nicht sehen kann.

Yes, thank you for that.

Thank you for this experience and the feedback, Jennifer.

Definitely valuable experience, which we will definitely talk about later in the concept discussion. So thank you for that. We have a few other people on the call. Does anyone want to speak next?

I speak in the name of the Kentucky Tennessee Conference and although I am not often in this area, we own several properties along this street, which is also called Academy Road and has a school. And right next to it is the Southern Fairland Drive, where there is also a school. So there are a lot of young people on the road and the Sanitarium Drive doesn't have a bus stop. So that's always a big worry.

I know that the school director of the Madison Academy is here on the call. Maybe she would like to say more about being there every day. That would be me. Thank you for organizing this. I am currently writing to other members of our community who live on this street. While Silke represents the organization, I'm actually the one who manages the apartment complex on the corner, academy and sanitarium. Most drivers use the hospital drive as a shortcut because it's faster down the hill. And to get around the corner, right? And even though I worry about the children at the bottom of the curve and about the width of the street, I understand that. I also know that the middle of the city is limited and we have to fight with a number of things that would make better lighting more important than breakwaters. Hey Chris, here's Jennifer.

Ich sage einfach mal, dass ich Eltern gesehen habe, die wirklich sehr, sehr schnell fahren, wobei sehr schnell relativ ist, aber sie fahren schnell, um zur Schule zu kommen. Das ist also ein weiterer Punkt, der die Schule betrifft. Okay, das ist gut zu wissen.

Mir war nicht klar, dass so viele Leute diese Straße benutzen. I mean, the Hospital Drive is faster, so it surprises me that they choose this. No, that's good feedback. Chris and Jennifer, regarding the lighting, you are right. This is outside the scope of the responsibility area and the scope of the traffic calming program. And as far as that is concerned, I don't know how you are currently in touch with Metro or communicating. But if you don't have a direct contact, I would definitely recommend using Hub Nashville. Maybe you are already in touch with them. I'm not sure.

Yes, we are working with them on a number of matters regarding the hospital. Understood.

Now absent or empty? Okay, that was good feedback. I know how to appreciate that you shared your thoughts. On the next slides, we generally go through the toolkit that the traffic control program uses to reduce speeds and slow people down. I'll just go through the slides and you can interrupt me with questions at any time. Okay, that's the toolkit. You are probably familiar with all of these. These are railway swells. They are currently the heart of our program. They are basically characterized by the gaps between the individual elements. Depending on the desired speed, they are about 2 to 4 meters long, 7.5 centimeters high and 1.8 meters wide. We distribute them evenly across the street so that it is ensured that everyone has to drive over them. We leave the gaps so that vehicles can cross them and pass unhindered. Or with less obstacles than a small car. Okay, these are speed tables. They are built in a similar way to the roadblocks, just without gaps in between. You can see that on the screen now.

Could you go back and show that again? The table. Oh, okay. Got it.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I know that. Okay.

What you see here on the screen are some before and after data, especially for speed. I mentioned that this is a data-controlled process. We actually record data on all relevant roads, so that we have a good starting point. Last year we did this on over 30 roads on which brake thresholds were installed. We then carried out measurements and compared them. This is what you see here. In general, you see in gold the speed of the 50th percentile, i.e. the average speed, and further down then the 85th and 95th percentile. The speeds increase as you go down in the numbers. The gaps then show the difference. You can see that we reach an average speed of a reduction of 8 Mbh through the brake springs. But even at the highest speeds, i.e. at the 95th percentile, where people drive over 42 mph in advance, we lower this to below 33 mbh. This is a reduction of almost 10 mbh. That's why we suggest vertical measures such as brake levers or flaps because they work effectively and cause the greatest reduction in speed. Another measure that we suggest if a brake lever is not possible for certain reasons is a radar speed indicator. Chase, I don't even think we have a speed limit on the road at all. Just a normal speed limit shield.

That's what I'm interested in, too.

Yes. There are many local streets in Nashville that usually don't have a speed limit sign. Normally, the speed limit on these local streets would be set by order. So if you don't see a speed limit sign, then you typically have 25 meters.

Yes, that's a good sign if you have a speed problem.

have a road and the people maybe don't know how fast you can drive, this is certainly something that we can take into account. So a slower, safer side lane. So normally I see this, oh sorry.

This is the next slide. Um, narrowing.

When we have wider streets, we like to put white edge lines on both sides of the street to narrow the lanes. Oh. This in general leads to a speed reduction simply due to the optical narrowing and the smaller lanes. A result of this, if we have a fairly wide street, is what we call a slow, safe side strip. Basically, you narrow the street so far that you can create a 1 meter to 1 meter 50 meter wide area for pedestrians. The width of the sanitarium is not suitable for this at the moment, since we only have about 6 to 6.5 meters of space there. I think at some points it even narrows to 5.5 meters.

So not... Besides, Google came by and did something like this in black because they laid cables along the street. This created an impression of a side strip, even if it is officially none.

Yes, I noticed that too. We weren't out on the street yet, but I saw them on online maps. And yes, you could see that. But I think even if you take into account the entire width. So apart from these markings or these repairs that they did after laying their fiberglass cables or whatever, I think that we ... Yes, it's about 6 to 6.5 meters. This is not a particularly wide street. Gehwegnasen. Gehwegnasen ähneln der Verengung nur an Kreuzungen. Es ist also die gleiche Idee. Man verengt den Bereich, bietet weniger Platz zum Manövrieren, sodass die Leute gezwungen sind, langsamer zu fahren, besonders beim Abbiegen.

Engstellen.

Das ist eine interessante Sache, besonders auch

Oh, I'll keep looking.

Excuse me, uh, excuse me. I always look at the next slide and not at the one you're looking at right now.

Personnel. Chicanes. Chicanes are used to create a horizontal distraction, usually only on very wide streets. For the sanitarium, this is probably nothing we would consider there. Closed spaces are an interesting thing. On a narrow road, on which you have good visibility, you can set up a narrowing point, which limits the road at a point to a lane per direction. Someone who comes from a direction would therefore have to guarantee the counter-traffic in advance.

That's an interesting point. And then roundabouts.

Roundabouts are usually reserved for some of our largest crossings, where we can adjust the geometry a little better. We now come to the next slide on which the concept is presented. So this is the first design of the concept for Sanitarium. I will give you time to record the whole thing from Naya Spin to Academy Road. And then we'll stop to listen to your thoughts and comments. Okay, let's start with Naya Spin Road. We have two pillows that are evenly distributed while driving around the curve. And then we have a tight fit on the straight line. Three more pillows each at the ends of the curve before you get to the apartment complex. And then one more before you reach the stop sign on Academy Road. So a total of five pillows and a tight fit. I would like to stop here briefly to hear your thoughts, your feedback and your comments.

Zuerst einmal, ich wusste nicht, dass mein Mikrofon an war, als ich mit meinem Hund sprach. Entschuldigen Sie bitte, dass Sie das hören konnten. Und Sie haben die Kurven erwähnt. Wenn Sie von den, äh, den, ähm... Wie nannten Sie, was sind die?

Die Engpässe? Nein, nicht die Engpässe, sondern die Geschwindigkeitskissen.

Wären es zwei oder eines?

Since the road is so narrow...

I mean, yes, you said it could be seven feet.

So seven times seven is fourteen. I assume you have a little space for a gap in the middle.

But... Yes, usually on such narrow roads... Cruz, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it's probably at least two. Sure, and maybe three, depending on how wide the road is. But I think we'll end up here with two pillows. So each of these C's there would be two pillows. One per lane.

Most likely there will be two pillows. They are six feet wide and vary in length. We have seven feet, 10.5 feet for selection and 14 feet for selection. We will most likely suggest the 10.5 feet here. They will be six feet wide, so each one pillow per direction of travel. Thank you, Charles.

Could you please explain the tight fit again? Yes.

This is not a perfect representation, since it is of course not the Sanitarium Road. The idea would generally be that we ... And that's why it's not perfect either, because we wouldn't have this sign here. We would rather build it with temporary materials, like a rubber sign or just a guide post. But basically you create these small islands and put up signs so that people can see that there is a pre-trial rule. So if two cars have to arrive at the same time, one has to let the other one take the lead.

When you install these things, the brake springs and the narrows, there are then at the beginning and at the end of the sanitarium drive signs that point the drivers to the new installations.

In this case, since there are no side roads between the Academy Road and Niels Bandt, it is most likely that they would have had a sign of braking at this threshold. So you are pointed to the first one and the rest, as well as the narrowing, would then each have their own traffic sign. And the others don't necessarily have to be signposted because there is no new traffic coming on the road, except through the access roads and the residents who are familiar with it. And on the other hand, it would be the same, they would have a signpost threshold ahead and for the rest of the route no more signs. Das ist eine Möglichkeit. Ich meine, wenn es Rückmeldungen gibt, könnten wir natürlich auch auf einigen Straßen mehr Schilder hinzufügen. Wir beschildern alle.

Hilft das? Der Engpass... Oh, entschuldigen Sie.

Der Engpass wirkt übertrieben, aber ich bin mir nicht sicher. Ich meine, ich stimme Chris zu, dass wir hier mehr Beleuchtung und ähnliches brauchen. And I mean, they gave us a visualization, but it's still hard to imagine where exactly the narrow pass would be if I walked down the street.

Yes. If that helps.

It doesn't look like there are many houses on this side of the road here. If you can see my cursor.

So if you come from the apartment complex and drive towards Niels Band Road and bend around the bend, you get to this straight piece.

That's probably a big grassland.

Yes, that's why it might have been a good opportunity for an incision, because you have a straight piece there. I know there it is somewhat lined with trees.

Well, there is an unbuilt property. How does that look if it is ever built there? With the incision there.

Do you mean where an entrance would go or something like that?

Yes. Yes, exactly. I would have to look at the plan. We have a plan with the property a little later. I don't think it's so divided that the access to this property would inevitably restrict the access. But it's definitely a good point. Ich bin in Deutschland aufgewachsen und dort liebt man Einengungen. Sie sind sehr effektiv, können aber auch sehr frustrierend sein, besonders auf viel befahrenen Straßen, da sich der Verkehr etwas stauen kann. Es ist also großartig, wenn man dort wohnt und möchte, dass die Leute langsamer fahren, aber es ist frustrierend, wenn man es eilig hat. Sie erfüllen also definitiv ihren Zweck. So, Chase, I have a question. On my way to work, I don't live on this side of the city, so I drive the car. There are several places where these brakes have become very popular. And this also includes these white posts on the ground that are attached to the asphalt, right? And they basically narrow down the street and protect the sidewalk and sometimes the cycle path. In some cases, the brake bumps came first and later the white pylons, because the people around the bumps drove over the grass of the inhabitants, because they just wanted to keep going. Und dann hat der Grundstückseigentümer am Ende eine Fahrspur auf seinen Rasen, richtig? Ergibt das Sinn?

Nein, das, was Sie beschreiben, ergibt Sinn.

Man hat also entweder jemanden, der über das Grundstück fährt, um der Schwelle auszuweichen, oder man hat am Ende einen Pfosten auf dem Grundstück, um die Leute davon abzuhalten, darüber zu fahren.

Verstehen Sie, was ich meine? I don't know how to get people to stick to the law, except through its implementation. So, I mean, I come from a federal state in which cameras have been used, but you can only do what you are entitled to and we appreciate that you care about it. We know how to appreciate that you even take the time for it, but I want to be sure that we do the right thing, right? Is road safety the right thing to do or are lights, cameras and the responsible people to take charge the right thing? I don't know. No. If Jennifer feels that parents are on their way to my school, then I have to address them and try to improve communication in this regard. It can never hurt if we say that people are important to us. Wir wollen nicht, dass auf diesen Straßen irgendjemand zu Schaden kommt und ich kann absolut besser darin werden, dies meinen Familien mitzuteilen. Ich möchte nur sicherstellen, dass wir das Geld der Stadt sinnvoll ausgeben.

Ich stimme zu. Ich habe sieben Jahre lang von zu Hause aus gearbeitet, also habe ich definitiv viele Leute dort gesehen. Ich habe bei der Schule angerufen, aber ich arbeite nicht mehr von zu Hause aus. Deshalb sehe ich nicht mehr so viel, aber abends sehe ich Leute, die die Straße entlangrasen und manchmal auch morgens nicht zu deiner Schule, sondern einfach so, weil es, wie gesagt, wie ein Geheimnis ist. Es fühlt sich an wie ein Schlupfloch, bei dem man auf dieser Straße tun und lassen kann, was man will.

I live in the curve at the sanitarium and, oh, I don't know. I notice, when we sit together in the morning, we get up pretty early. And because there is this natural curve, I mean, people almost always drive into my entrance, I have the feeling. Think to myself, okay, they bend in. What's going on? So, at least I saw that they were getting slower there. But one thing I noticed, there was maybe an increase, um, und ich war mir nicht sicher, ob das mit den neuen Bauarbeiten zusammenhängt. Ich kenne einen Großteil der Leute, die zur Schule fahren und oft erkenne ich die Leute nicht. Es könnten auch die aus den Wohnungen sein.

Ich schätze all diese Perspektiven und das Feedback sehr und was Die Fahrbahnschwellen im Speziellen betrifft, sowie die Leitpfosten und Leute, die in die Vorgärten ausweichen. Ich meine, ich denke, man kann nur... Wissen Sie, man tut sein Bestes, um 90 bis 95 Prozent der Leute zu erreichen, aber man kann nicht immer für jeden planen. Um, I don't think that's what I think, you can put it that way. It's definitely something that we've heard and that's happening, but it hasn't developed into a pattern that would have caused our team to consider something else. Man. I think, as you mentioned, Chris, we've seen these. We've installed them everywhere in the city and the countryside and know how they work. to slow down traffic. But I definitely take your point of view and your perspective into account and know how to appreciate it, just like all the others here in the conversation.

Chase, I know we called about a week ago. When it comes to voting, is it this plan or nothing? What if we like the kiss, but not the tight fit or vice versa? Yes.

That's a good, that's a good question. Um, the next few slides go a little more into the process, how it goes from here on.

I'm with Jennifer. She mentioned that the tight fit sounded exaggerated and I would have to look at it again, but at first glance it seems exaggerated to me, but... No, that's a fair point.

Um, to discuss the tight fit and the pillows. The voting that will take place, and I will go into more detail in a few slides, really refers to the proposed plan. The plan will not look exactly like this one. It will be a final plan, rather a design plan, so that you can see exactly where the pillows in relation to houses, addresses and the like are. So you will have more details that you can check. And then this plan is coordinated with everything that is included in it. Right? So the brake springs, in case there was a tight fit. And then you need more brake springs. I'm just trying to say that we don't want a proposal that is rejected because of the tight fit, even though there was support for the pillows, if that makes sense. So think if it's strong enough. Or if and, we'll go through that again. There is also the option for another meeting. If it's about the tight fit and you want to see more, we can do that for sure. Therefore, this could be a good time.

I just wanted to say, Chase, I don't want another meeting on any topic, because I already have enough meetings in my life, because... But it might be helpful to show where the shortcuts are used. I think they will be used in the area around the Heritage Circle. Maybe you could just send something to people so they can see what it looks like on the streets that resemble us, maybe as a reference point.

That could help, but not another meeting.

At least for me. Understood.

Understood. Exactly. So. Here are the next steps.

In general, a flow diagram for the overall program.

On the top left are a few things that we have already discussed. The application process, the prioritization and the selection. The project was submitted by a group of neighbors and was selected. Now we are at the first neighborhood meeting, that is the red circle.

That's exactly what we're doing here tonight.

After this meeting, we will go on site, take measurements and determine exactly where the pillows and the narrow pass should go. And at this point we will create a final design. And that's kind of the second meeting I was just talking about. There is the possibility to check these final design plans to see exactly where the narrow pass and where the pillows go. But otherwise it wouldn't look much different than this here. It would only be a little more specific and would show the actual construction of the narrow pass. If we decide to renounce the second neighborhood meeting, the next plans would be published on the city's website and they would hold an online ballot. It indicates that the voting phase has opened to see these plans and vote. I'll have a few slides about the voting and the election process. If there is a yes and the project is continued, it will go into the queue for construction. And if it is a no, we go through the so-called Plan B process, which is basically just a simpler design with non-vertical measures. So, for example, a speed indicator or something similar.

So the voting zone or the general voting, as already mentioned.

the plans will be published on the website of METRO. The owners of the real estate on the street receive a ballot by post, similar to the one they received on the invitation to this meeting. You receive a clear ID and a QR code that leads you directly to the page on which you can see the plan, vote and find out the date at which the voting will end. The voting runs for six weeks. It is a simple yes-no voting and a two-thirds majority is required. So if two-thirds of the respondents, i.e. of the people who participate, vote yes, then the project will be implemented. One more slide for voting, then I'll take a break for questions. This is the voting area. Im Allgemein betrifft es alle Grundstücke, die direkt an der Straße liegen. Wohnimmobilien, Kirchen und Schulen erhalten jeweils eine Stimme. Besitzt ein Eigentümer mehrere Immobilien, erhält dieser Eigentümer eine einzige Stimme. Leerstehende Grundstücke und Gewerbeimmobilien sind nicht stimmberechtigt, wenn Sie dies im Nachhinein online and have not received any notifications about this meeting, even though you are owners of one of these property and believe that this should have happened, please contact us. I will display my contact details in a moment, but please contact me so that we can make sure that your voice is heard.

So I'm taking a short break here.

I know that was a lot of information about voting and the next steps. Are there any questions?

I have a question for Chris. Is that okay? Excuse me if I pronounced the name wrong. But since the conference has many houses, I wonder how many exactly. Is that right? Or how much of the street does the conference belong to?

Sie besitzen fünf bebaute Grundstücke. Aber soweit ich weiß, erhalten Sie dafür nur eine Stimme.

Korrekt. Danke, Alex.

Sirka kann mich korrigieren, falls das nicht stimmt.

Ich habe mich nur gefragt, bei wem ich anklopfen muss und bei wem nicht, ähm, nicht. Klopfen Sie einfach.

Wenn Sie vorbeikommen, Frau Jen, können Sie bei mir vorbeischauen, dann zeige ich Ihnen, welche das sind.

Ich wollte gerade sagen, ich werde sowieso an Ihrer Tür klopfen.

Kommen Sie vorbei. Bringen Sie Ihren Hund mit.

Alles klar. Gibt es noch weitere Fragen zur Abstimmung?

Es sieht so aus, als hätten wir Jane verloren.

Gibt es noch weitere Fragen zur Abstimmung? I think the last one before the final questions would be your opinion about a second meeting.

No. We haven't heard from her.

No more meetings. And I understand that. But I would like to emphasize that... You know, when there is support for traffic, there is support for traffic calming. You know, there was obviously a request, there is a proven need. Yes, I mean, our goal is to achieve something. You know, of course we want to hear your opinion and leave it to you to vote. Whether you want breakwaters in your street or not. But regarding the narrowing, do you think that this is a good idea and can we plan it? Can we include this in the final designs and bring it to a decision? Or do we have to see a little more?

Ich fahre diese Straße selbst nicht, daher sollte ich eigentlich gar nichts sagen, aber ich weiß, dass diese Verengungen den Verkehr sehr stark abbremsen. Und ich weiß nicht, ob das für manche Leute zu frustrierend wäre oder nicht. Daher denke ich, dass Alex, Chris und Jennifer dazu mehr sagen könnten. Vielleicht, und wie Jennifer schon sagte, wäre es gut, ihnen eine Adresse an der Straße zu geben, wo so etwas existiert, damit sie es sich ansehen können.

Besides, people probably know that I submitted the application, so I don't want my house to be thrown with eggs. But eggs are now too expensive anyway, maybe I don't have to worry about it.

We now have chickens on the farm. I'll bring you a dozen.

They're so cute!

I was right.

Oh my god, they're really so cute.

Um, yes. I think I don't know. I really don't know enough about these animals. I think my question would be where they should be. But I'm Jen. Less meetings are better. As long as we have enough information, I think. I mean, Jen, you said when you were there on foot what I meant. Your instinct was that it was exaggerated, right? That's how I felt.

Because I'm thinking about where it could be placed. And we don't have that much traffic all of a sudden. So, I mean, I don't think it would slow down anything. I mean, it wouldn't cause a traffic jam or anything, but... I also think of Miss Pat and ...

I'm just forgetting his name. He's there. The guy who lives right next to the big field and J.D. ... And you know, they want to get out of the house and stand right in front of it. Oh, Wayne, that's his name.

Oh, Moa.

Yes, Mr. Moa, Mr. Moa. So, you know, I'm sorry if you had to. And I know that you said that you would all be careful not to park anyone. But I mean, it just seems to be a too big restriction, especially with this first attempt.

Well, how about this? I think, Jennifer, as you mentioned, you are the client, so I have your contact information. I think I can look for similar cases and try to find one that looks a little more like a sanatorium so that you can understand the situation better and we can make a better picture of it. And then we can exchange ideas and just listen to your thoughts and ensure that we have a plan in place where we all feel good.

So would you only send it to me or to everyone you've written to?

I would send it to all the applicants, to all the people I can't remember right now. To everyone who was there, but I would send it to everyone. Whoever it was, whoever it was with his email on the application, I would send it to them.

And Chris, if you want, let me see. I can't remember who signed everything from the school. But we have Alex in charge, so he can share it.

Ja. Und ich bin neugierig, wenn wir mit dem Pinpoint weitermachen, wo genau es hingeht. Wissen Sie. Aber ja.

Ja, wir können sicherlich daran arbeiten. Und dann können wir versuchen, als Antragsteller-Team eine Entscheidung zu treffen, ob wir das zur Abstimmung bringen wollen oder nicht.

Hm, ja, das ergibt Sinn.

Ja, da können wir noch einmal nachhaken. If there are no further questions, my contact information is there on the screen. If you look at this afterwards, please use the QR code there. Take part in the survey. We look at these. And if you have any questions, you are welcome to contact me at the email address given there. The traffic authority is also in copy there. And with that, thank you all for your participation and your discussion tonight. And we look forward to moving forward with this project.

Thank you for giving so much attention to it.

Yes, thank you for the organization. It's very friendly. Thank you.

Thank you, Chase. I had another question that just came to me about Plan B, in case it doesn't work out. What does that mean?

So basically the voting for building measures. So if we install something in the driveway, we actually vote for it. Plan B would be something that is outside the driveway. That would typically be a few speed display boards on both ends of the road.

Are those the things you pass by and they show you the speed? Is that what you mean? Correct.

That's usually, yes, I have to look at it more closely, but that's mostly the result.

And we will then determine the exact placement of all these things before the vote. That will be part of the vote.

Yes, that will be on the Metro website. And you will find a link where you can find it so that you can look at the plan.

Great. Thank you. I appreciate your time. All right. Thanks to everyone.

Thank you.

Good night.

Good night.