Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

okay all right good evening and welcome um to the first traffic calming meeting for morton mill road um i'm just checking um i just got a message from my co-worker here so you guys can't hear me right i can still hear you okay thank you um so yep so thanks for joining this is the first traffic calming meeting for morton mill road Um, as part of the neighborhood street, common street traffic on the program. I've got a short slide deck that we'll go through. That's got some general information about the program. Some specifics about what we've learned so far about more on the road. And ultimately, we'll go through what really want to hear your thoughts and your lived experience on the street. And we'll talk through some design ideas and things like that.

So. Yep, so here's the agenda.

I do want to point out, if you're viewing this, this meeting is being recorded and will be posted on Metro's YouTube page after the fact. So if you're reviewing this after the fact online, certainly want to hear your feedback. So visit engage.nashville.gov. Scan the QR code there to visit the public input page. Generally, like I just mentioned, we'll go through an overview of the program. We'll discuss Morton Mill Road specifically. We'll review some of the tools we typically use as part or the tools that we have at our disposal with the Traffic Homing Program. We'll review a preliminary design concept and get your feedback on that. And we'll discuss next steps as it relates to the program as a whole. At any time, if you have any questions, feel free. Please feel free to come off mute and we can talk through any questions that you have. So we'll start off with what is traffic calming generally. In the context of the neighborhood street calming program here in Nashville, we focus on residential streets as opposed to larger arterials or collectors or things like that. We really focus on physical solutions, on vertical measures that encourage lower speeds. and one of the main goals of the program is speed reduction. So how does that tie in to the Safe Systems approach? If you haven't heard of the Safe Systems approach, this was put forward by USDOT in the late 20-teens, really aimed at the goal of reducing serious and fatal injuries. So there are five parts to the Safe Systems approach. And the traffic calming program here really hits on four of them, all of them, but the safer vehicles piece, the safer vehicles piece being controlled more like by OEM manufacturers and things like that. But we really focus on safer speeds, so lowering speeds, safer roads, so street design that encourages lower speeds, safer people, and post-crash care are also two aspects of that.

So safety, traffic calming and Vision Zero.

So Vision Zero has been adopted by Nashville as a nationwide thing that is aimed at reducing or really eliminating serious injury and fatal injury crashes on our networks. And I mentioned earlier that this program specifically really focuses on speed reduction. And the reason for that is you can see by this graphic, you know, the higher, speeds are on a street, the more likely it is that you have a fatal or serious injury crash as a result of those high speeds, especially if you're outside of a car. So that's what this graphic illustrates.

Okay.

A little bit more about the program overall. This is a really popular program. It's been going on for quite a few years now, and we get a lot of applications. So 650 applications as of this spring, and basically each fall and spring, historically we've had 25 streets selected, and that's where we're at now. So Morton Mill Road was one of the 25 streets selected for spring 2026. And there on the right, you can see this, that's an excerpt or a snip from the live traffic calming tracker that you can visit and see on trafficcalming.nashville.gov. So, this is a, this is a plug for hub Nashville. Um, if you're not familiar hub, Nashville is a place that you can go to. I'm getting contact with and dot staff on anything that you might be. Anything that you might request outside of the bounds of the, the traffic calling program. Um. And it's really the easiest way to get in touch with and share feedback. So, encourage you to, if you, if you haven't visited natural before, please do.

And check that out. Okay.

A little bit about the nuts and bolts of how streets are selected as part of the program. So this is a data-driven process. So when applications come in, we actually go out and collect data to help prioritize which streets get selected in any given cycle. So you can see on the right is a pie chart that shows the weights of the different pieces of data that we collect. The biggest of those being speed, so we'll actually go out and collect speed data and volume data on each street. And then we also include things such as crash history for vulnerable users, so people walking and biking. Non-driver accommodations, so there's been presence of sidewalks or greenways or bike lanes or things like that. And trip destinations, that being like parks, schools, things such as that.

So this is some of the data that we collected on Morton Mill Road.

So you can see the 85th percentile speed, 37 miles an hour as compared to a posted speed of 25 miles an hour. So speed weighted heavily in the selection criteria and also a good amount of volumes, over 3,000 vehicles a day. And a watch street to 36 to 38 feet up the 1 lane in each direction with the center term line in the middle. Um, so this is this is the day that we collected for more than the road. Here's the map. Um, so this is a snip from the traffic calming tracker that I showed earlier. That shows more mill road. Um, you can see there, um, as you're all probably familiar, the. Harpeth River Greenway.

Um, running parallel, um.

Yeah, and so this is a spot typically where I want to stop and stop talking for a minute. And we got several people on the phone here, so I want to hear your thoughts. And if you were a part of the application process, maybe what inspires you to apply. Or, yeah, what's going on with the road? We, I mean, we know that. No, people are going fast out there. We know there's a lot of cars. I want to hear your on the ground lived experience.

Hey, Chase, this is Craig. How are you? I'm doing well. I live off of, um. Carpet view, which is the 1st street at the beginning of that yellow line down Morton mill. Yep, the traffic volume number. It surprises me that it's that high, but if you've tracked data, come on down that street and where it turns to the right, I'm the first house on the left, so right there. That's where I live. The 37-mile-an-hour sounds low to me, though. So the volume, I'm surprised it's that high on one hand, but the speed on that road, most people don't do 35.

Yeah, so it feels feels like people are going faster than that. So that's the and that's the, the data that we collected says the 85th percent. I mean, 12 miles an hour over the posted speed. That's already fast. And so, yeah, to hear. You know, that it feels yeah, it's good context to know that it feels faster than that.

Thanks, Craig. Hey, Jason, Sam.

Yeah, I think.

To kind of mirror that it does. I think there are a good majority of people going closer to 40 miles an hour, but we also have. I think a lot of, um. Maybe sports cars or motorcyclists who use the road as a little, um. Fun joy ride, and I think are going much, much faster than 40 miles per hour. Often. Um, we hear it all the time, especially. early in the morning or late at night.

Okay.

And just to add, because there is that greenway across the street, there's frequently pedestrians crossing Morton Mill to get to that greenway, whether it's with a bike, children. You know, it's a very family-oriented neighborhood in general, so there are quite a few children around as well.

And pets.

Yes, thank you. And if I'm turned over here, I'm just taking notes. No, thank you.

Hello. Hey, Denise, this is Denise. I live directly on Martin road. On the partner, and when we first moved here. The speed limit was 35 miles an hour down this road. And a few years back, it was moved down to 25 miles an hour. And I feel like there's only one speed sign posted in this entire area. And, you know, so I kind of feel like not a lot of people realize that it's 25 miles an hour. My car gives me the heads up. and speed limits and my car still reads at 35 miles an hour when I'm driving down the road. It's telling me that the speed limit is 35 miles an hour. It does not tell me that it's 25 miles an hour.

So that can make it right there.

But I also do feel like since this notification came out a couple of months ago, I got an email from Jason Sabine and I feel like I feel differently from the other 2 that have spoken. I feel like a lot of people have slowed down since the notification came out.

So, you were breaking up a little bit there. So you said there was a notification that came from council member Spain a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah, no, in April. And I feel like because I hear the cars past my house all day long, it's like white noise. You hear it, you get used to the cars going, and you can hear the ones that are going faster and the ones that are not. But I kind of feel like since that notification came out, a lot of people have been slowing down. I'm concerned about When you put a speed bump up, and it's now directly out in front of my house, the noise of a car sitting there continually all day long is then going to be a noise issue within my home. So I'm curious as to where you're planning on putting the actual speed bump.

Hey, Denise, this is Craig. Are you willing to share with us where you live specifically on the map? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, um, I live. The 1st house off of the corner of Martin, no, no, no.

The very 1st time, right?

Yeah, right there.

Yep.

we're like literally 20 feet from 30 feet 20 feet from the road we can hear every car that goes by like that i agreed when i bought this house to hear that car noise but like i said my bedroom is right here off of the road and and it is white noise and you get used to it but there's been a few times when there's been construction out in front of my house and there's been um those metal plates that they put down. And then also when you did the counter, that was directly out in front of my house. And even just that little rubber thing that you put across the road, we could hear the cars hitting that continually all day long and all night long. So I'm concerned about the noise disruption in my home and where these speed bumps are gonna be placed.

Hey, Denise, this is Craig. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. It's not a perspective that I had ever imagined and I get what you're saying.

I just want to hop in here too. I'm also right on Morton mill. I'm, I'm at the corner of Morton mill and Harper's view drive. Like, not that house that 1. yeah. Yep. And, um, I have a similar concern our bedroom. Same thing is right on the Morton mill road side and. You know, I wasn't necessarily sure what measures you were looking to take. So I was interested to see the plan, but I mean, yeah, I agree. Like. You know, and some, there's always going to be road noise when you live on a street that has 3000 plus cars driving on it every single day. Um. I've never lived in such a close proximity to something like a speed bump or a speed hump. So, you know, I haven't experienced what that noise level would be like, but definitely it is somewhat of a concern. Um, and and maybe there'll be more questions as you go into the proposed plan as well, but because there is. The center turn lane, I would be curious if there was a speed bump in the center turn lane as well, because I kind of think cars would just drive in the center turn lane to avoid them. And in turn, that could actually be more dangerous. So I was gonna kind of wait till we got into the plans to ask those questions and see what you guys were thinking. But it is a good point about the road noise.

And then also forward to, I'm sorry, but this is again, we're also looking forward to this Ariza apartment building being built down at the very end of Martin road. And that's been going on. But. If they pass that, and they start building that, we have a couple years of semi trucks and construction trucks running up and down our roads, hitting those speed bumps as well. And I can't imagine the noise that that would bring.

So, um, Chase, are you able to provide any kind of information around the noise created by these speed humps? If that was the, if that is what is being suggested.

Yeah, well, 1st, before I get into that. Yeah. Thanks everyone for sharing. Um. You know, your, your context and your thoughts. Definitely noted that with houses in such close proximity to the street that, you know, road noise would be is a concern. I don't have any information off off the top that documents like, how, how loud, you know, a speed cushion would be. but it's definitely noted and we can, as we get into sharing at least the initial design concept here in a few slides, we can continue that conversation and yeah, take that into account.

Okay.

One other question I have is why does the, Why does it only start where it starts and ends where it ends? What's with that little strip? Why does it go down to the red line? Why doesn't it go past?

Yeah. So that's a function of the application itself. So I'm not sure if anyone on the call here was the applicant. But whenever the application is made, the limits are established then by the applicant.

Are you able to disclose who the applicant was?

I can, yeah. I think I don't have that off. I don't have that pulled up right now, Craig, but I can definitely follow up.

Okay. If they were on the call, I would be interested in their perspective on their reasoning.

Have we ever had a known accident as far as hitting somebody going down this road? I personally have yet to see an accident coming down this road. Has anyone else seen one?

I've lived in this house for 25 years and I'm not aware of any accidents at all on Morton Mill Road in the yellow section that's highlighted on the screen.

Yeah, I did a quick scan of the last three years of crash data, and there was one accident at Harpeth Mill Court, but it was a deer. Somebody did a deer.

But yeah, not significant crash history that I can tell on this segment. Okay.

so if the person that has submitted this if the person that submitted this is on this call and is willing to speak up i think we'd all like to hear from you and just to add to that i'm i think there's some

You know, strong opinions out there, but there's no. Judgment or anything like that, you know, is it just a. Conversation to improve safety and, um, I want anyone to feel comfortable to speak as well. If if, you know, like, we just moved into our house, uh, 2 years ago and are new to the neighborhood. And, um, so, you know, we're kind of learning some of these things too. So. I can see both sides of it. So I just want everyone to feel comfortable to speak and give their piece as well.

Yeah, I agree with Sam. I'm typically against these speed humps and for police enforcement. So I would rather our tax dollars be spent on police officers patrolling the streets than big old hunks of rubber and the road slowing everybody down.

That would be awesome.

I agree. Or even one of those signs that tells you how fast you're going. I think the speed limit sign is hard to miss. So, yeah, that's why I was curious to see. Sorry, easy to miss. I was curious to see what the plans were. And maybe there's some of it that makes more sense than a speed hump or speed bump.

Sure. Okay. I think, yeah, thanks everyone for the discussion. I think this is probably a good point to continue on the slot deck.

Okay. All right. So let's talk about generally the toolkit.

And Craig, I just wanted to hit on your note about enforcement. So typically, as far as the traffic calming program goes, we do, and you'll see in this, we focus on Um, things that we can implement, you know, that in dot Metro has. The most control over, um, so that's kind of why we focus on. What we do, and so I want to take you through generally the toolkit. Um, so this is what we've been discussing, so speed questions, I think I don't think I have to explain these really. Um, I think these are, these are pretty ubiquitous. They're pretty much everywhere around Nashville now. Um, but generally. The thing to note is that they do have a gap between the speed cushions to allow for reduced impact for emergency vehicles and things like that. Speed tables, that's similar, but it doesn't have those gaps. Typically, we don't propose these as much as we do speed cushions. Okay, a little bit about why we do propose speed cushions a lot of the time. Um, and that's because, like, I mentioned that on the front half of this, um, we really focused on speed reduction. The speed reduction has kind of the most measurable impact. And proven outcomes as far as safety related outcomes as far as reducing. Um, reducing century, serious injury, fatal injury crashes. So you can see here in 2025. We actually did. Like I said, we collect data on all these streets beforehand whenever they're applied for. So last year we actually went back out on 38 of these completed projects and took after data. And you can see that speed reduction that you see really capturing, you know, the speed that everybody's, you know, most people are going, that 50th, 85th percentile speed, but also you see a huge reduction on, you know, those top end. that 95th percentile speed, so that 42 or down to 32.

So we propose speed cushions a lot because they work.

Another tool that we use that's been mentioned already is radar speed feedback science. Really, we use these whenever speed cushions aren't feasible due to grade constraints or horizontal curve, like too sharp of a curve or something like that. But definitely something that we use a lot. Narrowing, so narrowing generally is placing a white edge line on a street that doesn't have it to narrow the travel lanes up to like 10 feet or something like that in each direction. Generally, it's been shown the narrower the road, the slower people are bound to go. It gives a more constrained environment. People are less comfortable speeding when the road is narrow. This is one we've been doing more of lately. I don't think it would necessarily apply on Morton Mill Road because there is sidewalk out there. Uh, but generally on roads where we, where we have a lot of extra pavement with, and there aren't sidewalks, we've been proposing the slow, safer shoulder. And provide a walking area and also narrow at the same time. Okay, well, belts are similar to narrowing, but at intersections, so it tightens up. Narrows up the lanes also tightens up the turning the turning radius to slow vehicles down.

Chicanes.

So, we don't often use because usually it requires a lot of space and, um, on street parking, you know, people usually like to hold on pretty tight to that. Um, not popular to take away on street parking a lot of the times. Um, but it is, it is useful. Um, that in the slow, the slowing of vehicles really comes from the deflection that comes in. Instead of giving the straight line, kind of a wide road straight line where people are bound to speed, introducing some deflection and some curvature kind of forces people to slow down.

Pinch points.

Pinch points are similar to chicanes in the fact that you have to kind of turn to navigate them. However, a pinch point is defined by the fact that it comes down to one lane in each direction. So you're actually, you kind of force a yield condition. You have to stop and wait for someone else to come through. Then traffic circles. Traffic circles are usually reserved for kind of our largest intersections.

Typically would go with a bulb out or something like that prior to going to a traffic circle.

Okay.

this is the proposed concept um and i say proposed lightly you know this is up for like we share this i want your feedback and want to have like i would think most of our discussion here on what the proposed designs could look like so i'll just go over it really quick um so start and then we can and then we can get into discussion so going from left to right we're looking at 4 cushions, however, you can see there's an asterisk on 2 of those. Um, so you see the speed cushions in the top left. And you see a possible chain in the top, right? So, I think it's been mentioned a couple of times that, you know, this is a 3 lane section. It's got 1 lane in each direction with the center turn lane. So, it's a really wide road, right? And so there is opportunity. And I think there's limited on street parking. You guys can tell me more about that. But there would be an opportunity we think to do a chicane or 2. Or even more to. As an alternative to a cushion based design, if that makes sense. But as it stands, as it's shown right here, this would be for evenly spaced cushions basically 1 per block. Um. So, yeah, I'll pause here and just let you guys digest this and let me know your thoughts and we can get into discussion about it.

So, there is no on street parking. On yep.

All right, so I was wondering if.

The city of Nashville. I've been putting up these speed bumps for a while now. Has anybody researched, which is easy to do if you're online at all, the road rage that these speed bumps cause also?

I don't believe so.

So, so what is what is, you know, what the cost difference is of doing all this work and putting up these feed box versus. Placing 1 camera and just now let me take tickets.

I don't know the cost difference in that.

Is something like that an option that a speed camera that. To get to people.

um i would have to get back with you to confirm that but my i believe that those are not permitted by tennessee state law but i i probably need to follow up with you on that so the so these speed bumps that i see you have placed um that that's going to be like i'm going to hear both of them surrounding my house like that says to me i need to put my house

Yeah, the first one, that first bump is right next to our house and right next to our master bedroom. Yeah, that one.

You will hear because we've had these metal plates down here when they were working and it's nonstop and it just drives me mad.

Yeah, this is wonderful.

I think personally, I'd probably rather see someone or see, you know, more speed signs, maybe a radar sign put up at before jumping to speed cushions. And, you know, I won't necessarily be driving over these speed cushions, but, you know, a lot of times there's signs that say you can go 25, 20 miles per hour over speed cushion, but I drive a sedan. Um, It's more like 5 to 10 miles per hour that feels safe for a lower car. Um, and, you know, like, I will, we do drive down this road sometimes that right at the end of this proposed plan is where the community pool is, um, right on Northridge drive there. So, um. you know that also causes additional traffic and within the neighborhood people going to and from the pool and and the playground that's over there and um you know i'm all for protecting people children pets you know i do have concerns about some of the peop some of the people we hear that you know go ridiculously fast on the road and i i do think you know having police enforcement taking radar and issuing tickets to those people would be more of a solve. I don't think it's majority of the people and maybe even just bringing more attention to the fact like I didn't know the speed limit had gone down a few years back. Like I said, we've only been in the neighborhood two years and the speed limit signs are easy to miss. Especially when speed humps are going to cause additional noise and things like that in a residential area. I would rather see some of these other precautions taken.

1st, this seems that we're not trying the easier things.

It's good feedback. I'm late.

Oh, so sorry. I joined very late to the conversation, but I think I agree with everything I've heard so far. I'm of the opinion that no changes should be made at all. I'm at the end of Harpeth Lake Court on the right side of the text there, 1201.

So you're very close to Mortonville instead of

i am on morn mill at the on the road side of harpeth lake court gotcha this is craig thanks for sharing that yeah i'm of the opinion that no change is warranted i i agree it's it's very few people that hot rod through here i don't think a sign or you know a flashing uh speed radar would change anything with those exceptions.

Yeah, I think that you are right that the, you know, a flashing sun, so one thing about speed cushions versus suns really are, you can't really ignore speed question everybody has to go over them um so it kind of gets everybody however yeah the speed feedbacks on it can be ignored but that was not notwithstanding i think you know it's been i'm hearing the feedback of this seems excessive um so i wanted to pull on something so like i noted here with the with the asterisks and possible potential for chicane so not necessarily a speed cushion, not a speed cushion, but some of this horizontal deflection, like this adding this curvature in, is that something, how do we feel about that?

How does that affect the turn lane?

Good question. It would take up the space of the turn lane.

yeah i mean i do think you can see many short or or even longer streets jut out of morton mill and um i i do think that the turn lane is needed on morton mill um and think getting rid of the turn lane is going to result in people who get frustrated being slowed down by people waiting to turn onto their street and then they want to zoom out of there i've seen that quite a bit so i actually think the turn lane might help more than adding these these chicanes might actually hurt the the problem 100 percent especially there at harpeth view drive i think where you were saying you were at that

That's where all the traffic's going around that loop.

It's my experience that most of the hot rodders are doing it late at night, and I think they're doing it because the road's wide open and a straight shot.

I don't think a chicane changes that condition for them. They're still going to see a wide open road, a long stretch, and do what they do.

Yeah, I will say we hear a majority of those early in the morning, late at night.

Hey, Chase, this is Craig.

Hey, Craig. I've got to hop off the call.

I just want to say thank you for giving us a chance to share some feedback. My view on this is in line with the fellow that jumped on later in the call, and that is I don't think we need to do anything. especially in the absence of the person that has filed the need to do this. We have no idea what their reasoning is, what their thinking is.

And if they're not here to support their reasoning, I think we just need to move on and leave this alone.

All right. Thank you, Craig, for your feedback. Appreciate you joining.

You're welcome. Thank you.

Chase? So, in the light of what Craig said, what are the chances that we can just do nothing and move on?

Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. So. And maybe the questions will be answered a little bit more and. Kind of where we go from here, but the next steps to the process are essentially. We take the feedback that we get on the design concept and we would. Go out in the field, verify some things that we would present to you in another meeting, a final design. Right. And then it would go to a, it would go to a vote. Of those who live directly on the street, you know, and I've got slides that details that out. We can talk more about it. Um, but generally, if the vote is no.

Then there. If the project wouldn't go forward, so, um.

Okay, so my concern is, I saw that you're going to send out mailings and. You have to get 66% yes to go forward with this. Is that correct? What happens if nobody responds? We only had 6 people come on to this call.

Right, so, I mean, we, we go based off and that's really why we had these, these meetings too, is to get. feedback. And so like, if I'm hearing, if I get feedback from, from you all, like I'm hearing that we don't, we don't want questions, we don't want this or that, then, you know, we wouldn't move forward with something that wasn't kind of, you know, especially with pretty much a universal response that I'm kind of hearing on this call. And so what I want to do is, I guess, shift the discussion to what would be helpful in the context of if it's not speed cushions, like if it is chickens or if there are other ideas that we want to talk through here.

And Chase, I would welcome anybody, you yourself or anybody else trying to push for these speed pumps. I would welcome Any of you to come into my home and lay down some kind of. Rubber hop in the street and listen to the disturbance of the noise that it would cause. I would welcome anybody to come in and do that.

And just and just the. To finish this up, I think.

1 or 2 cameras would do the job.

just so we know heading into that vote is it one vote per household or like do my husband and I both get a vote yeah so let's let's move along here Sam I'm not ignoring your question sorry I've got I've got some slides that kind of detail that out that'll be better than me just talking about it yeah okay So, this is the process, um, kind of from start to finish. So, at the beginning, there's application process. Um, straight to prioritized and selected, that's kind of where we are now and what the road was selected. We have our 1st neighborhood meeting that circle there in red. It's where we're at. We present a concept, um, we take that feedback. We would come back for a 2nd meeting saying, hey, here's what we heard. Um, based off of the 1st meeting is this. Something that you want to move for, I mean, is trying to get this feedback and kind of what I'm hearing is like, more. More sounds like a radar feedbacks on or something like that. It's probably more what we want to go go for. So we would take that. And bring it back to you at a 2nd meeting, and then.

It would go to an online ballot process now.

And I need to get back. If the voting process is really for vertical measures, so whether or not a speed cushion goes in or not, that's what the vote is for. Um, but for things like. Radar speed feedback signs and things that don't involve vertical measures. Um, those are things that we don't. Like, that aren't taken to ballot so that would be what we come back at 2nd neighborhood meetings. Hey, this is the design that we've. Like, we heard your feedback. We. Advance the design is this in line and kind of give you another chance to provide feedback and say, yes, we want this. No, we don't. And then at that point, it would go. To an online ballot to the online balloting process. And there's a little bit more information on this about balloting. So this is an example of the ballot postcard you see on the top left. So online ballot will be sent via mail or similar to the ones that you got for this meeting. Voting is open for six weeks and it's yes or no vote. And Denise's point earlier, so 66% of respondents vote yes. So people who respond, two thirds of people who respond vote yes, then the project moves forward. This is a snip of the ballot zone. It kind of looks funky because the other side of Morton Mill Road is a vacant parcel. But you see all of this parcels highlighted on. The other side here, those are the folks that received. Mailers for this meeting, and those are the folks that would get to vote. So, residential properties, churches and schools get 1 vote. So, Sam, to your question, it's per household. So, like, 1 household would get 1 vote. And it's only properties that about the right away. Owners of multiple properties, so if one person were to own more than one lot along this, they would only get one vote. Vacant properties and businesses are ineligible. I'll pause here for any questions. That was a lot of information.

It may just be me, but I'm not hearing an option to where it ends before it gets to a ballot.

is that not an option you're saying we have to go through a vote and a ballot yeah that's a good question and it's one that i would need to get back with with our partner with endot on um to know if we do if you know my instinct would say that you know if it's a pretty clear resounding we don't want speed cushions right um

then is there there shouldn't be a need for a ballot because we know that it's not going to pass but i i need to get back with you on that it just sounds like you're saying the ballot is for a a given uh design but what we're all saying here is we we don't even agree to make a change so it's like an option that's not available it seems like

No, I hear your feedback. I hear you.

It sounds like maybe you just don't necessarily have the authorization to say one way or the other right now on this call, but that you'll get back to us and let us know. Because I do think 66% passing, and we have at least four people who have spoken up in this call who aren't for speed bumps. But yeah, we understand that you may just need to get back to us on that.

Yes.

Yeah, just trying to guard against, you know, the time and investment and cost that you're spending, you know, to try to come up with the least awful option, I guess, is what I'm saying. You know, there should be an option to kill, but I understand.

Yeah, I mean, the fact is that some, you know, somebody on the street here applied for the program. And fortunately, about whatever reason, they're not here. And so there's like, but like, whenever we get, you know, the one sided feedback of like, hey, we don't want this and it's pretty resounding.

Yeah, I mean, I think

That's her and I do need to kind of get back to you on like, what the next steps are going from here.

It is possible the person that submitted the application has moved since then. I know the people who directly behind directly behind us, they just purchased that home. Few months a few months ago, so. They're, they're 1 of the highlighted houses there on the corner of Harpeth McCourt and Morton mill road.

And that kind of thing happens all the time. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I think we, are there any other questions?

I do have a question, but it's not for the Morton mill case and, and, um. You know, if I need to take this offline, I can, um. You know, to me, the biggest traffic calming, uh. Uh, opportunity in our neighborhood is still on, uh. Sawyer brown road is there possibly a case as you're driving up. Past plantation pub, they put in a, uh.

know a roundabout there is there an option to put in a roundabout just before that at the other stop sign on sawyer brown road yeah so as far as um the traffic calming program goes um we do we deal with more like low volume streets so sawyer brown carries more cars um so wouldn't be one that we tackle as a part of this program um i know you joined a little late but i want to go back to a slot earlier we talked about hub nashville so this is really the easiest way to get those types of requests in to endot and metro and they they do monitor those requests um okay so definitely would encourage you to to submit that oh excuse me all right thank you yep i do also have a question for you um that's a little off topic so i i'll keep it brief um

They've just put up signs that they're repaving Harpeth View Drive, and we haven't received any information on like dates or anything when that's happening. Do you have any information on that?

I don't have any information on that, but if you, I would, I could want you to have Nashville, but also feel free to email me and end up traffic calming and I can try to get you in touch with the right person too.

Okay. Thank you.

When can we expect a follow up from you from this meeting and how?

So you'll receive, that's a good question because our contact information is with the applicant. So the communication that you got to receive this meeting was just the mailer. Yeah, I would encourage if you, if you want to get in touch with. Me definitely reach out via email here and keep in dot traffic calming. At Nashville dot Gov copied as well with any specific questions. Um, and feel free to pass along your contact information. Via email, and I can keep you updated on. Next steps and kind of what what the next steps are.

So, what you're saying is we really want to hear back unless we reach out to you.

Well, we have so we have a 2nd meeting that we would schedule, but kind of given. Kind of the conversation earlier about the project generally. And the fact that the contact information that I have is for is for the applicant. I don't have a way to get in touch with you and unless you provide your contact information, if that makes sense.

I want to say thank you for getting on this call and giving everyone an opportunity to speak their mind on this. Um, overall, we're, you know, fan of initiatives to make people safer. So, um, I think just maybe. There are other roads in Nashville that could use it more or, um, and I, I am in favor of, you know. Maybe even if it's just a regular speed sign, um, I think the 1 now it's just poorly placed. Um, so I don't, I don't think that's a bad idea. So.

Okay, thank you for that, Sam. Okay, are there any other questions right now?

Okay. Well, thank you for being on the call and sharing your feedback. It's, you know, that's why we have these meetings. is to, I mean, we really, this is really a neighborhood and community driven program. So that's kind of how we got here and that's why we have these meetings and listen to you guys. So thanks for your time in joining and yeah, we'll be in touch. And let us know, feel free to visit trafficcalming.national.gov or at the QR code here to leave any additional feedback that maybe you didn't share tonight. So, and same to anybody who's viewing this after the fact online, We want to hear your feedback too. There's a survey open right now, so please go fill that out.

Thank you.

Okay. Thanks.

Thanks, Chase. Have a good night.

All right.

Bye.