Metropolitan Council - Regular Meeting

This is a recording of our meeting. Record the meeting at INDOT in Indiana and then post it on the website. Therefore, Even if you haven't attended the meeting, you can watch it again on the website. We are recording so that everyone can get as much information as possible. I am Amy Burch. As a traffic engineer and consultant, INDOT is in charge of traffic calming program related work. This evening, we are going to talk about the NOBLE VALLEY DRIVE traffic calming project. Before we start, I would like to give you a few tips. If you have any questions, please use the chat window. I'll check and answer. or If you have any questions during the meeting, please remove the vocabularies and ask a question. If you speak or do not ask a question, we would appreciate it if you would keep the vocabularies so that everyone can hear without receiving feedback. Then we will start in earnest. Let's talk about various traffic forecast programs. I will explain the program structure and talk about some of the data observed from your distance. I will also explain the traffic forecast tool box. And I prepared a pre-designed concept for the Noble Valley area, so I will show you. This is a starting point to check whether the local residents want the right direction. Your goal is to listen to your opinions and discuss the next step. If you click on the QR code and website on the right of this screen, you will move to the Engage Nashville page related to the traffic calming project. You can enter or scroll to the search window and find the Noble Valley. This is where you can find information related to the Noble Valley. We will share the link when the recording video is posted online, and we will provide you with updates when the meeting schedule is set. We will also guide you through the schedule for the next voting stage. In particular, those who are not able to participate in the evening meeting and are watching later can convey their opinions on the project to us and the team through this page. Please leave your opinion on Noble Valley. What is traffic calming? We are running a low-speed traffic program on roads in residential areas such as Noble Valley. We We are introducing a physical solution that lowers vehicle speed throughout the road and induces the road. Therefore, our main tool focuses on speed reduction. When considering traffic speed reduction, we are considering the safety system approach, and we are thinking about how traffic speed reduction contributes to the traffic system. By maintaining the safety speed, which is one of the key elements of the Safety System Approach, the reduction in traffic speed helps to create a safer road environment. This road design can lead all road users to be safe. Road design or improvement is to help drivers, pedestrians, and bicycle users recognize each other on residential roads and pay attention to each other. We are also considering accident management indicators and safety system approaches. We believe that traffic calming measures will solve the problem. Because the measures we use are to prevent emergency vehicles from interfering with people who need help. And 2. The infographic shows the relationship between the speed of the vehicle and the possibility of survival of the pedestrian. If you look to the left, the probability of survival of the pedestrian on the vehicle at a speed of 25 miles per hour and about 40 kilometers per hour is 89%. If the speed goes up to 35 miles per hour and 56 kilometers per hour, the probability of survival of the pedestrian drops to 68%. And at a speed of 45 miles per hour and a speed of about 72 kilometers per hour, the chance of survival drops by 35%. This is the national data we refer to. Therefore, the faster the speed of the car, the more serious the collision accident becomes. It's an easy and commonplace story. Especially for people who are vulnerable, such as pedestrians or bicycle users. And another thing I want to tell you about speed and road safety is that the slower the speed of the vehicle, the more time to observe obstacles on the road or to understand why it should be stopped or slowed down, and the response time is longer. It means you can completely avoid collisions. Therefore, the slower the speed, the lower the severity of the collision and the higher the chance of survival. The possibility of completely avoiding the collision is also much higher. It's because you can see more parts of the road as you drive with a wider field of view. Why is it important to drive at a lower speed like this? In particular, there are good sources and data that explain why it is more important to meet people who take a walk in the afternoon or take a dog for a walk. I wanted to tell you these things about speed. And this is a application-based program for local residents to apply for traffic calming measures. Um, and In general, the INDOT is selected about twice a year. In each selection, about 25 neighborhood roads are selected. Therefore, about 50 roads are selected annually. This may vary depending on the budget allocated to the program, but this was the average for the past few years. This program has a very high demand. In the last application review, about 650 local roads applied for traffic reduction measures. After that, we went through the selection process and selected 25 neighborhood roads in this review. Noble Valley, Noble Valley is one of them, and this map is from the online real-time tracking map that tracks the progress of all projects or roads that we have requested for traffic reduction measures. So, um, it's divided by color depending on the state. It shows whether it has been selected, completed, or is in the meeting stage like this continuous graph. Um, if you look at this, you can see how many traffic volume reduction requests there are. And besides the neighborhood road traffic volume reduction program, I hope everyone knows about Herb. It's a great tool provided by the Metro government, and it connects services that residents need or request to the Metro government. You can call 311, use the Herb.Necivil.gov website, or download the app on your smartphone and request. The really good thing is that you can get follow-up action when you need a service number. So, for example, if the street light is broken and you report it to the department, you can solve the problem, and if the traffic light is malfunctioning or blinking in yellow, or the signboard has fallen, or the garbage has not been collected, or the crosswalk's waterway is blocked by the sight and it is difficult to rotate, you can report the light. You can report it. Not only the INDOT, but also all the Metro departments. Now, let's talk about traffic calming measures and priority ranking again. As I said, there are more than 650 roads with traffic calming measures. Then, how were the 25 streets selected for this round, including the Noble Valley? It is through the data-based priority ranking decision process. We consider five standards. One of them is vehicle speed. Compare the speed limit of the road, 25 miles per hour, about 40 kilometers per hour, and the speed of the 85th hundredth. This accounts for 45% of the overall score. We are actually measuring vehicle speed on the road. Also, it measures the traffic volume of all roads, which accounts for 25% of the points. Next, consider the transit destination. This accounts for 5% of the points. In other words, whether there is a facility near the road that is expected to be used by people walking to and from schools, libraries, and parks, and so on, and whether there is a convenience facility that other people, not drivers, can use. So that's 15% of the score, and that's what we're looking at. Is there not enough traffic? Is there no traffic on the road at all, or is there only partial traffic? Is there a bicycle road on the road? Is there a green space nearby? Is there a bus lane, a bus stop? These are 15% of the score, and the remaining 10% are for vulnerable users, that is, injuries and deaths. So we look at the pedestrian and bicycle accident data in the past 10 years and check if there are such types of accidents on the road. This accounts for 10% of the score. All roads that have applied for traffic calming measures score according to the same methodology, and the road with the highest score is selected as the target for traffic calming measures. The Nobel Valley was one of the roads that received high scores in this methodology, and we collected data from that road. I would like to share some of the data points used in the analysis. The 85th 100-minute speed measured at the Nobel Valley was 33 miles per hour. I will explain the 85th 100-minute speed. It is a indicator that traffic engineers often refer to. It helps to identify the speed of driving on the road situation or on the road in general. In other words, it means that 85% of the cars measured during the day drove at a speed of 33 miles per hour. Therefore, the remaining 15% means that it is driving at a speed of 33 miles per hour. I measured it at a speed of 25 miles per hour, and the speed limit is 25 miles per hour. And the daily traffic is a little over 1,000. That's both directions. In other words, both directions of traffic are measured and displayed for 24 hours on weekdays. The road width is about 30 feet. There is a row on the road, but there is no road. And we know that there is a hill to the south end of the road, Elm Hill Pike, Elm Hill Pike. This map is a snapshot captured from our online traffic tracking map, and it marked Noble Valley Drive and Noble Valley Drive related to the surrounding roads. According to the law, the road is in the planning stage of the traffic reduction project, and it is adjacent to the road where the Limbotton Limbotton road, which was selected in the previous round and already completed the procedure and the traffic reduction facility, was installed. The road marked in blue is on the east side of this road. And some roads in the Nowork and Fitzpatrick areas have also been requested for traffic reduction measures, although they are marked in pink. It is not yet confirmed whether traffic reduction measures will be implemented based on data. Today, we will talk about our toolbox. I checked the chat window and there are no questions yet. Then we will continue. I will tell you about the devices used in this traffic information program. One of the tools we use is the Accelerator. You must have seen it while walking around the city. These are the ones installed on the neighborhood roads. This device is made of modular rubber, so it is installed by drilling a hole in the road packaging. It can be installed in various forms because it is a module type. INDOT prefers this device because of the space to be installed. As you can see, the emergency vehicle can pass over it thanks to the gap between the speed bumps, and the width is wide, so it is less affected by the speed bumps. The emergency vehicle has a slightly wider wheelbase than a passenger car or pickup truck, so it can go over the speed limit quickly, while the passenger car has to hit the speed limit. Only one wheel can get out of the speed limit or both wheels can collide and pass, but in the end it will be affected by the speed limit. The purpose of the speed limit is to reduce the speed of the vehicle. Therefore, when installing these speed bumpers, be aware of the speed bumpers when drivers approach by installing a warning sign, a road sign, or a speed bump itself. The speed-resistant chin can be made in various lengths. This cushion at the bottom left is a standard length that we generally use with a length of 10ft 6inches and about 3.2m. The middle is flat and the ends are sloping. The cushion can be applied in various patterns depending on the road surface mark and installation form. For example, like the picture on the right, the arrow and the center line can be marked in the center of the cushion to make the road and the harmony. These cushions are sometimes installed along with the white lane separation pillars. Like the picture on the bottom right. What is installed on the bicycle road is to prevent the driver from entering the bicycle road to avoid the cushion. When you want to protect the bicycle road, parking space, etc. and ventilate the surroundings, you need to install these signs. So when you install these fillers, you usually install several in a row. In other words, it depends on the road situation, but usually it is not installed only in one place. If you do, the drivers will only slow down at one point and then speed up again, or even try to make up for the time. However, if you install several of them in a row at a distance of 300 to 600 feet, the drivers will know that there is another fully charged device every day. Therefore, there is no need to try to increase the speed between the filling devices. Um, and to tell you a few more things about acceleration prevention, I think there's something you might be curious about. We are considering the location of the entrance when installing the acceleration prevention chin. For example, we are doing it so that there is no need to push the car sideways and enter the car at the back of someone's entrance. So, This is our standard interval. However, sometimes it is difficult to install because the entrance to the roadside is steep. I wanted to tell you this point. And vertical and horizontal curves, that is, under. It cannot be installed on a high-speed curve. However, the design is adjusted to the above-ground characteristics of the road. The acceleration prevention chin is made of rubber. These products can be composed of various widths in a modular way, but the difference between the acceleration prevention chin is that it is installed along the entire width of the road, unlike the acceleration prevention chin that leaves room for emergency vehicles. In addition to the interaction with emergency vehicles, Accelerator has almost the same effect as Accelerator. INDOT set up several projects last year, 2025, to find out how these products work, what the results are, and how effective they are. Overall, as a result of reviewing 38 projects in the city, the average speed has decreased by about 9 miles per hour. Therefore, it is quite effective in achieving the goal of speed reduction. Vertical measures such as acceleration prevention are very effective. The radar feedback signboard is also another tool used in the program. As you can see in the picture, and you may have seen it while driving in the city, it is a speedometer that is installed with the speed limit signboard. When the vehicle approaches, it measures the speed and acts as a driver. There are often cases where you can't recognize the speed and accelerate, but it is a good device that looks at the speedometer and reminds you to slow down. According to our research results, the average speed decreased by about 6 miles per hour and about 9.6 kilometers per hour, and the 85th speed decreased by about 7 miles per hour and about 11.2 kilometers per hour. That's what they saw in the tool box and thought it would be good to apply it to their distance. So, it's one way to reduce the width of the lane using the road sign. Sometimes, when the road is wide, narrowing the lane can make the pedestrians walk more comfortably. That's the first way. And the low-speed safety angle is one step further. In a wide section on one side of the road, like in the picture, a flexible lane division pillar is installed to create a sidewalk for pedestrians, bicycle users, and pedestrians. If you do this, the width of the vehicle can be narrowed. And In order to apply this method, you must remember that the width of the road should be appropriate. Usually, we use a package width of 24 feet or more than 7.3 meters. This can affect road parking, but it is because people do not want to park on the street, which is a low-speed driving area. Such an action is not allowed. We have implemented these measures on several roads. The crosswalk sign is a method of using a crosswalk with a curved line in paint, but as you can see in the picture, it uses a flexible line separator in the form of a white stick. In this way, the crosswalk is narrowed down and the curve radius of the road is reduced, leading drivers to reduce the speed of rotation. It also has the effect of shortening the distance between pedestrians and clearly distinguishing parking spaces to improve the view of the intersection. These facilities can be seen mainly in urban areas, but I wanted to explain because I could also experience Nashvilleville while traveling. This is another way to add a curve to the straight road. Use the road sign. As in this picture, use the way to park alternately on both sides of the road. In this way, there is a curve in the horizontal direction of the road, so the drivers have to slow down to maintain the lane. However, this can affect the old-fashioned parking. In addition, the width of the road must be appropriate for Chicani to work effectively. Another way is the wall point, pinch point. This picture is a road in the east of Nashville. It is to make a small island on the road and actually make the space between them into a one-way line. So let the car approaching you go. You have to cross the intersection, but especially when passing through the wall section, you have to slow down. In other words, you have to go through the section where you have to avoid the island. The last tool I will introduce is the rotary. Recently, this rotary was installed in Nashville, South. It is in the form of a U-shaped island in the center of the intersection. It is made of rubber and asphalt, so it can pass large vehicles, but it is basically a small-scale rotary with similar functions as a rotary. The driver turns the center island in the opposite direction of the clock and passes the intersection. In this way, the flow of the vehicle is distributed horizontally and the speed can be reduced when passing through the intersection. This concludes the last content related to the lottery. The next slide is our proposal for the Noble Valley and the Noble Valley. Let's see if there are any questions about what we've announced so far. I don't think there are any questions in the chat room or anywhere else, so I'll move on right away. Probably what you're most curious about is the plan for the Nobel Valley. Let me explain briefly first. The right side of the screen is the north. El Milpike, El Milpike is on the left side of the screen. It's a little different from the actual north-south direction. The pink line indicates the Nobel Valley, and the Fitzpatrick Road, the Fitzpatrick Road, It's on the top right of the screen. We recommend installing two sets of speed bumpers on the road. The three stop signs will be installed at a distance of about 350 to 400 feet from the Elmil Pike and Fitzpatrick Road crossroads. It will be installed on the road like the image at the top of the screen, which is similar to the one installed on a nearby wind-turned street. The address is also marked so that you can roughly understand the location of the installation. As a result of the initial evaluation of the road, not only are these locations suitable for the interval of two sets, but also considering the traffic rate of Noble Valley Road, it was decided that it was suitable for installation because the slope is steeper as it goes in the direction of Elmil Pike. Also, it is not desirable to install it too close to the stop signboard, so I think the interval is appropriate. 이런 계획에 대해 질문이나 의견 있으신가요? 거리 전체에 쿠션을 두 세트만 설치하는 계획이라고 하셨죠. Yes, two sets of cushions. So, um, we're going to install three sets horizontally. I'm sorry. I'm telling you that you can't see the screen well, but the width is wide, so we're going to install three sets horizontally. That way, there's enough space. I'm going to install it in two sets and drop the distance about 350 to 400 feet. Yes. One set is installed across the road from 3125 and 3128, and the other set is installed across the road from 3109 and 3108. This allows you to keep the adhesion interval between the entry path and each cushion set. The driver passes two sets of cushions when going from Elm Hill Pike to Fitzpatrick Road. That's... I don't think that's enough.

Yes, it's a short distance.

It's only about 1,000 feet long. Yes, this distance is the general distance we recommend, but in fact... It's usually narrow between the spaces we usually install. So I think it won't be a big inconvenience to those who live on this road or those who live in the north. There's a question about what kind of signboard to add to the chat window. We're going to install two signs on both ends. Between the first inflator and the Elmil Pike. In front of the first inflator, we're going to install a sign called Speed Limit Inflator. And between the Peach Patrick and other inflators, we're going to install a sign that says Speed Limit Inflator and Procedure Speed 20mph 32km per hour. So, we're going to install it in advance. Usually, signboards are installed on a private area border so that it is not right in front of someone's front door. So we're going to do that, but the N is not here, but it will be included in the next step for more detailed plans. Yes, we're going to install a total of two signs in both directions in front of the completion area where the driver meets for the first time. Do you have any other questions about the plan? What I want to ask is whether the plan you applied for was what people thought about the distance.

I moved recently, but before that, there were more street lights, so I moved from a street where there was less problem with visibility. But what I felt while driving my SUV is that if the street lights are not enough, it's hard to see. The signboard itself is fine, but I can't see the speed bump. There's only one street light in our neighborhood. If any other street lights are broken, please post the information on the hub. It will be solved. Yes, that's a good question. What is the sign of the acceleration prevention chin? It's made of reflective material like a road sign, so you can see it well when you turn on the headlight. The signboard is the same. However, as time goes by, the reflected mark may fade. So, at INDOT, you can add a mark on the road before installing the speed bump. Well, if it becomes a problem later, of course, we will solve it if you let us know in the hub. However, the speed bump should be visible. So, there is an arrow mark. And that's why we installed a sign to let drivers know that the speed limit is approaching. Oh, there's another question. In the case of roads with speed limits already applied, did you monitor the amount of traffic to be reduced? So, it's trying to check whether the number of vehicles using the road has decreased or whether drivers have moved to another road. Did I understand correctly? Yes, we conducted research on it, and it seems that the results are different depending on the surrounding road network. Therefore, the traffic on the Limberton road may have increased after the acceleration barrier was installed. Um, and, but I don't know. Um, it could have just happened. Um, yes, so it really depends on a number of factors. We measure the traffic on this moving road. I also measured roads with increased traffic because of vehicles trying to avoid speed bumps on nearby roads. And no roads have changed. It depends on where people go and how the road network is connected. So, yes, that's a good question. However, it is a little difficult to define how much traffic is moving on average. Do you have any other questions about the proposed plan? Or is this plan a tool you were thinking of applying to Mobile Valley? Or do you think there are other options? Yes, this part will be discussed again later and you can continue to hear your opinions on the actual plan, but I would like to tell you about the future progress. This is to let you know what will happen on this street in the future. This is also the flow of the program. As I mentioned earlier, the program is a request-based program. Therefore, residents on this street have requested a decrease in traffic. It starts from the left side of the screen. And Data Analysis As a result, this distance has been selected as a traffic reduction target distance. Next is the resident meeting stage. In this stage, I will explain to you about the program itself, the concept plan, and the tool box. In the next slide, I will explain about online voting. Once the meeting is over, we move on to the design stage. At this stage, the engineers will further specify the design concept through field research. If there is anything to add to the plan based on the opinion heard during the meeting, it is reflected then. And then, and specify the exact location of the completion site. In this case, the completion site shows the specific location, such as how far it is from the entrance on the design drawing. For more details, refer to the drawing. This drawing is prepared so that the construction company can start right away. If the project If you get approval and support from the vote, you move on to the construction stage. After the design stage, we move on to the voting stage, and there is a slide that explains the details of the vote. Basically, if more than 66% of the voting participants agree to the project as planned, it will proceed to the construction stage. So, if the vote is finished and the approval letter comes out, that is, if the residents want to proceed with the project, In the case of INDOT, we will order materials and sign a contract with the construction company. Basically, the project funds are secured. We don't have to wait for the funds to be secured. We only have to document the support for the project and deliver it to the construction company to proceed with the installation. There is a second resident meeting on the left. If a resident or a congressman who attended the meeting for any reason needs a second meeting, it is a choice that can be made at any time. For example, It may be a good idea to hold the second meeting when there are many changes between the configuration stage and the design stage. Then, let's open the second meeting and show you a more detailed plan before voting. This meeting will also be announced by mail like this meeting guide. I think there are a few more questions coming in. Let's check. Yes, the question is this. If the speed does not improve as expected, can you secure additional safety distance? Or installation? How do you monitor afterwards? Yes, we regularly conduct research before and after installation. However, it is not necessary to measure all roads one by one. Because we are doing quite a lot of these projects, and we are seeing an average speed reduction effect of 9 miles in a project that has already been installed through a lot of research. Therefore, we do not necessarily conduct research after installation. However, as you know, if If it does not seem to be effective, please contact INDOT and we will check to see if other measures are needed. Other questions? Was it possible to use a radar first to monitor and mark the speed and then add an acceleration preventive jaw? In other words, we first install the radar feedback sign to check if it is effective, and if it is not effective, we ask if we are installing an acceleration barrier. However, our program is not operated in that way. Rather, it is the opposite. Even if the online vote is less than 66% of the approval rate, that is, if it is decided that there is a need to install an acceleration prevention chin, and the INDOT will continue to run the business even if it does not get a high approval vote. So, in this case, it is highly likely to install a radar feedback signboard on each direction. 하지만 반복적인 프로그램은 아닙니다. 우리는 운전자들이 도로에서 속도를 줄이도록 하는 가장 효과적이고 효율적인 방법을 찾으려고 합니다. 좋습니다. 그럼 투표에 대해 좀 더 자세히 이야기해 보겠습니다. 기본적으로 우리는 이 프로젝트를 진행할지 여부에 대한 투표를 하는 것입니다. The voting site is sent by mail while online voting is carried out. The mail has its own ID, so you can prevent the results from changing due to multiple votes. Voting is carried out for 6 weeks. The voting deadline is marked on the mail. Please vote for 6 weeks after receiving the mail. Well, it would be better to participate in the vote. Six weeks is much faster than you think. And you don't want to lose the voting space. Please tell your neighbors to look for a voting space. I hope as many people as possible participate in the vote. The voter can vote for or against. If 66% agree, the project will be held. What I definitely want to say here is that not all houses or buildings on the street should be 66% approved. It would be really nice if everyone who received the voting paper participated in the vote, but in reality it is not. So if 66% of the voters agree, the project will be held. It's kind of like an election. Therefore, I'm not against it because I don't vote. Um, this is a postcard that you get when the voting paper comes to mail. On the left, there is a phone number connected to the INDOT project manager. If you have a problem with online voting, you can contact us by phone to get help. If you leave a message, we can call you back, but we are trying to help everyone vote as much as possible. The top screen of the online voting site is displayed at the bottom. If you scroll down here, you will see the sections you need to enter, and you can enter your own ID. And there is also a link to the final design drawing. All design drawings are posted online. Everyone, if you have not participated in the project and would like to participate after receiving this guide, you can find out more about the voting content and the plan. After the voting is over, the voting results will also be published. You can check it through the link here. Of course, the individual voting results will not be released, but we will only let you know the rate of approval and whether it will pass. There is another question, and I will answer it with this slide. This is the voting area. According to the program manual, only real estate that has been encountered on the roadside such as residential real estate, churches, and schools. Therefore, each real estate owner can hold one vote. If you own multiple real estate on the same road, you can only hold one vote. Empty houses or businesses do not have voting rights. Well, this shows the proportion of real estate that can hold voting rights for projects. There are a total of 19 real estate. If you couldn't get the voting card later, please contact INDOT. We'll help you. We want everyone with voting rights to participate in the project. So we're going to have a six-week voting period. I hope this has been an answer to your question. My email address and the INDOTV traffic information email address are ind.trackerminishville.gov. And if you click on the QR code on the right and the web address engage.nishville.gov.taracaling, you will move to the Noble Valley project page. We will tell you the update news there. As you know, we will update it when the voting paper is issued. Also, when the voting paper is issued, we will let the chairperson know, so we will provide information so that people can check and receive the voting paper in advance. If you want to submit your opinion or if you plan to watch the video later, it is recommended to use the Participation page. In the future, we plan to implement specific design plans for a month or two, and if you don't think you need a second meeting when the plan is completed, you will move on to the voting stage. This QR code and web address, trafficcoming.nashville.gov, is a website related to traffic improvement for INDOT. All plans, final plans, and voting results are posted here. Our program manual is posted there. There is also a recording video of the traffic control meeting. You can find all the information about the program. And you can also check your distance traffic information on the online traffic map. This is the end of my slide, but I would like to ask for your opinion on not needing a second meeting and moving straight to the design stage according to the proposed concept. The design will be similar to this slide, but the signboard will be added to the drawing. It will also contain more details about where the completion device is installed and how it is placed on the road. Yes, like that.

I'll proceed. All right.

Is there anyone else who has a different opinion? Mr. Chairman, are you okay?

I'm Lee Hyun Davenport. I don't know if you can hear me well. I think the same. Yes, I've been keeping this in mind since I was first offered. Oh, it's nice to see it like this. Thank you for the work you've done on the street. You've definitely made the traffic much smoother, and I'm happy to have such facilities on our street. All right. Thank you for your opinion. Let's add more.

Everyone is actively participating in this project, and there seems to be no objection. As I talked about it, many residents were eagerly wanting transportation reduction facilities. In particular, it has become more so since the installation has already been completed on the next street. I hope that the local residents have expectations about the project and can proceed with the installation without any more meetings.

Good. And as I said before, if for some reason, the approval for the Dni Project is not up to 66%, we will consider another method, not a vertical measurement method, which is likely to be installed such as a radar signal. However, as you know, this vote is mainly about installing a vertical measurement device on the road. Yes, thank you for your time this evening and for your comments and questions. If you have any additional questions, please contact me anytime or use the Engage Nashville page in the Noble Valley area. As the plan is established, it is very similar to the plan, but more detailed information will be included so that the construction company can install it right away. When it's finished and the approval form comes out, it's ready to be installed right away.