Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

All right. Good afternoon, everybody. I'll uh begin process call to order this Thursday, November 13th meeting of the Myrtle Beach Board of Zoning Appeals. As is typical, we'll start by taking role. Mr. Dixon here, Mr. Durant, Mr. Lee, Mr. Mcnite here, Mr. Parker here, Mr. Patel here, Mr. Khan here, Mr. Art

and Mr. Schwarz is also present. Um, anybody had an opportunity or has everybody rather had an opportunity to review last meetings? I typically say last month, but I'm not sure we meant last month. Last meeting would be September 11th, 2025 minutes. And if so, unless there are changes or alterations to be made, I would entertain a motion. I'll make a motion to approve.

Got a motion to approve by Mr. Parker. Second by Mr. Patel. Sorry, Mr. Dixon. It was a little quicker on the uptake than you. All those in favor, let's get hands in the air. That motion carries. I'll hold signing of that till the end of the meeting. Um, do we have any old business before we get to the new business? and thus the procedures and rules there. Mr. Ralph, we have any new business, old business rather new

new business. Then before we get to that, I will read into the record for the benefit of our esteemed audience today. Uh the board's procedures and rules. BZA operates as a quasi judicial body. And for the record, as we discussed a moment ago, we got the light on. So I guess that means we're broadcasting, right? Society. So this would be obviously for the benefit of anybody who may be tuning in. Number one, the BZA operates as a quasi judicial body. If a completed permit application is not filed within six months from the date of the approval of a variance or special exception by the BZA, then such approval shall be null and void. Applicants may appeal a decision by the BDA to the circuit court, provided the appeal is filed with the clerk of court within 30 days after the decision of the board is mailed or within the same time frame by filing a notice of appeal with the circuit court accompanied by a request for prelitigation mediation. As always, decisions on matters before the board will be determined on the basis of a majority vote which with the members present today that would be 3 to two. uh variants may only be granted if all four of the finding following findings are made. A there are extraordinary and exceptional conditions pertaining to the particular piece of property. B these conditions do not generally apply to other properties in the vicinity. C because of these conditions, the application of the ordinance to the particular piece of property would effectively prohibit or unreasonably restrict the utilization of the property. And D, the authorization of the variance will not be of substantial detriment to the adjacent property or the public good and the character of the district will not be harmed by the granting of the varants. Mr. Ralph, I believe we have one request 25-10 Myrtle Beach Farms Company. If you would be so kind as to come forward state your name.

Charles City Myrtle Beach administrator. Mr. Row, you swear your testimony today be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but. Yes, I do. Please, if you would give us a brief overview of request 25-10.

Sure. Uh, in your packet, uh, I just went ahead and throw up the pictometry photo that we have online. This is the site that we're looking at, the whole site. Uh, if you look at your site plan that's included in your packet, we're just looking at this one individual site. We flip back ptometry, which is going to kind of be located right here on this partial. Go ahead van, please. The request before the board today is a border point that is not connected to the building right here along Robert. Uh code requires a 30-foot setback in highway commercial. So this is in excess of that 30 foot setback. The building itself meets code, but this order point would fall outside that setback request. Everyone follow. Thank you, Mr. Row. We have an applicant on behalf of request 2510 Beach Farms Company. If so, please come forward. Should be a pin up there. So, sign in. State your name for the record.

Jason Browning. Mr. Brownie, would you raise your right hand? You swear your testimony today be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but. I do. We have to hear from you, Mr. Brown.

Yes. As it pertains to uh the applicant application at hand um to point A. Our response would be this site is located uh as to three sides of the property having road frontage with Empire Drive being constructed uh in order to access this property due to Gris Parkway being a limited access roadway and therefore um you know no other properties in this area are are cited by three streets and therefore having to adhere to the 30-foot setback on all three sides. As to point B, uh the property is surrounded uh area mainly consisting of larger development tracks that do not require an internal drive that constitutes a side street. As to point C, uh the property is restricted from being able to have two canopies without reducing the amount of parking or by having a drive-thru entrance that would be more dangerous than what is currently proposed. If the site were redesigned with the building located away from Empire Drive where the canopy could be within the 30-foot setback or or outside of the 30-foot setback, uh that location would drastically reduce stacking, potentially causing traffic to back up onto the roadway. In addition, the the configuration would also place the pickup window along Gryom uh instead of patio seating and landscaping more as it is now. U and as to point D, uh the granting of this variance would not be detriment to the area as the surrounding parcels are already built out. And again, it's a pretty small nondescript

order point canopy and there would still be landscaping between it and Gris Parkway. Uh, and with that, I would be happy to answer any questions the board had. Thank you, Mr. Brown. We from the zoning administrator. We'll certainly get to questions if you don't mind having a seat. If you're done, if there's anything else we have here, that's all. Have a seat, sir. We'll we'll we'll have some questions for you. Please stick around. All right. Mr. Ralph still duly sworn. We have to hear the city's position on this matter.

As for a there are extraordinary extraordinary except conditions pertaining to this particular piece of property. Uh the project is located within a transitional zoning classification. It lies along a limited curb cut road and is bordered by road frontages on three sides. Adjacent parcels which break up the site are subject to different zoning classifications with reduced setback requirements resulting in a varying building alignment and front yard standards. These conditions do not generally apply to other properties in the vicinity based on the following findings. In fact, the request before the board request before the board pertains solely to the ordering point and does not include any modifications to the principal structure. The proposed structure consists of an open air canopy designed to provide weather protection for employees stationed outside at the order point. Because of these conditions, the application of the ordinance to the application of the ordinance to the particular piece of property would effectively prohibit or unre unreasonably restrict utilization of the property based on the following findings effect. Redesign the site would restrict the overall layout and impact the stacking lanes density. Alternate design options would create vehicle circulation challenges within the site. The business operator receives orders in person which differs from other existing operations in the area. Authorization of the variance will be sub will be of substantial detriment to the adjacent properties based property or public good and the character of the district will not be harmed. [snorts] the granting of based on the following findings effect the proposed setback adjustment will align with other structures located along

Robert Gristen Parkway and within the overall area [snorts] that's all I have thank you Mr. Ralph Mr. Mr. Brian, would you like to rebut anything the zoning administrator presented? We'd be happy to hear from you if so before we get to members of the public. Sure. My only uh rebuttal would be to the last comment uh that in our opinion this will not be a detriment uh to the over to the adjacent properties in the area. Similar to what you stated, I think in your in your presentation. Anything additional? No.

Thank you, Mr. Brown. We appreciate it. Hang tight for us in case we have some questions. Anybody here from the public wish to speak on this matter? Mind if I walk up? If you wish to speak, we're going to have you come forward and sign in and swear you. I don't think I have any real questions. Well, you're not here to ask questions. You come up and sign in, please. We'll do. Here you go. Sorry. It's okay. Now, if you would please state your name for the record.

Yeah, it's George Decker. De E C K E R uh 2925 Terry JRO. Mr. Decker, before you go any further, if you don't mind, raise your right hand. Yes, sir. You swear your testimony today be the truth, old truth, and nothing but. Sure. Please proceed. We'll be happy to hear from you. Thank you. I just uh Is this the entire parcel of property? No. No. Right. No. And if I don't mind, this is Gryom 29th Avenue is further down that way. Further down where the hand is going to put.

There you go. So that's the area in question. Yes sir. Okay. And the setback is a request for setback from Robert from the Robert Gryom Parkway. And what is the uh request for the setback? What does the code call for? And what what are they? It calls for 30. And what did I ask? 12 12.

And Mr. Decker, typically in in the public commentary section, we hear comments from the public. We don't normally feel questions. I know you maybe came in a little late. This was already presented. Um, and we'll get the questions from those people who spoke already. Some of these questions that you're having now may be answered. So, if you have some comments you want to make or if you want to state your position on this proposed variance, we we'd love to hear it. I guess I just want to understand where the entrance to this piece of parcel is. If Charles, go right ahead, please. So, there's going to be a road circle right here. Correct.

There's going to be an access point right here. The building's going to be set here. Order point question for BZA is right here. Okay. And can I ask a general question? Is this uh property currently being developed uh to the right? The one to the right is the dentist office. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. That's all I have.

Thank you, Mr. Beck. If you hang tight for us, please, we'll get through the rest of this meeting. Anybody else from the public wish to ask or come forward and be heard, I should say, would be the more standard form of procedure for the board. Hearing none. We will um move to questions from board members to those individuals who provided testimony uh including Mr. Becker in case there's some things that need to be cleared up. Uh Mr. Dixon, we'll start on your side of the table with you.

Okay. I have one question on the uh number C. There it is. This configuration also place the pickup window along instead of the patio seating which is more in keeping with the surrounding area. Where is the pickup area? Is there is there a pickup window there or Jason Mr. Dixon? Who are you directing that towards to the uh applicant? Applicant. Yeah. Is that that's in his answer? Correct. Yeah. I'm sorry.

That's in his answer. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Mr. Dixon, as this is designed, the uh pickup window would be on the interior side of the the building. Just a different color. We'll put a box up there for you. What do you do in the second lane? A dual lane there. There is a Tormax door and the associates would be able to exit the building. That's a dual pickup lane

circulator. You need to explain how they provide an order point. It's not you don't come to one. Sure. Sure. There, you know, in a traditional uh fast food restaurant, you know, you pull up, you order your food, you would pull up to the window, pay your money there, pick up your food there. Yeah.

You know, maybe two windows, one window, depending on the setup. In this configuration and the way uh Chick-fil-A currently operates at your order point, you're going to place your order and pay there. Then you're going to drive around and there will be an associate outside there under the canopy that has your food and hands it to you. So they can run dual lanes all the way around. One may be mobile through where you've placed a mobile order and come through and one may be order on site. But on that outside lane, so there's a canopy all the way there. And I'm not sure if you want to, you know, the dash line is the canopy up there. Okay.

And that's part of the restriction there is we had to keep that canopy outside of the 30oot setback on Empire Drive as well. That's what pushed the building so far south or plants out south, I should say. The only other question I have with you is the the current Chick-fil-A over on Joe White, I think it is, it only it only covers half of the second lane. This one's covering the full second lane, almost the full park. Yes, sir. Is that necessary to have it the whole lane cover?

Again, I can't speak. You know, I've been to that site, but I don't know what went into the design of that. What I can say is, you know, that there are associates and you can see it doesn't quite cover the whole lane, but there are associates out there full-time taking orders. Yeah. And that is designed so there would be an associate in that striped area and it is meant to cover them and protect them from the elements. I was just wondering if it couldn't be a little less covering, but that's all I have. Thank you, Mr. Appreciate your question. Mr. Khan, questions? No questions. Mr. Patel, I noticed you mentioned the uh and this is to the applicant.

Thank you for correcting that to the applicant. Um you just mentioned to Mr. Dixon that there's the there's a canopy where the red box is. Correct. Where you're actually picking it up. Correct. Is that similar in size to the one that's where the odor taken is the the can the and it's referred to as the OMD canopy outside meal delivery. It is larger than the canopy to the south to plan south. That is the order point canopy and that is just a function of how that area works. Okay. And just another question you had mentioned that you you're subject to another setback on that side the other 30 foot and that's what's led you to bring the building closer to Griom.

Correct. that and as we st I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, go ahead. Go ahead. As we stated in part of our hardship, you know, since this part this particular paral is bordered on three sides by either a main a thoroughare or a side street, you know, we are required to by co current code to hold that 30 foot setback on all those street frontages. So, it's it's the frontage from Empire Drive making a 90 degree turn that pushes the build, you know, sets the building location to plan north.

Okay. So, that's what brings me to my next question for you. When you did the the modeling, did you look at possibly asking for variance on the Empire side versus the Gryom side or what was the least impactful?

Uh, [snorts] In an initial meeting to work through this with staff, it was our understanding or or we weren't under the understanding that we would be required to keep the 30-foot set back on three sides. That's what precipitated the layout of that. uh once we receive staff's denial of the zoning review is what started these conversations and moving out of that was what started our studies for other configurations on the site. Gotcha. I'm good.

To clear that up, whenever we shifted the building up, that started messing with the drive throat. Okay. So, you're shifting that up, which messed up that whole parking lot, that drivethru, and then you start looking at emergency access and larger vehicle movement. Okay, I'm good. Thank you, Mr. Ch. Mr. Knight, questions.

Um, I'm guessing this is for the applicant. Um, just because it's in your C response here, could you just maybe briefly share with me how It says reducing the amount of parking. It says in other words, the property is restricted from being able to have two canopies without reducing the amount of parking. And then secondly, [snorts] the latter part of it, it says immediately off of the curb cut, reducing stacking and pinch causing traffic to back up into the roadway. So you're saying that those two things would impact. Can you kind of share what that would look like from a visual standpoint?

Sure. Well, we ran several studies of how, you know, how could we rotate the building on site to uh facilitate meeting the ordinance as it is written. And in all of those other options, you know, we looked at rotating this way and one of two things has to happen. either one you are immediately loading your order point and then and henceforth don't have the an adequate amount of stacking or you are moving your entry point into the parcel somewhere else off of Empire Drive you know probably around this corner closer to Gristle Parkway which is not optimal because then you have traffic flow in and out interacting with that intersection down here. Um, we also looked at, you know, immediately flipping or or mirroring the building to where it would uh the building would back up to the parcel to our left. And again, it was just a site configuration thing with how do you load the drive-thru area with adequate stacking and none of those really worked out.

Okay. Thank you. Anything else, Mr. McNight? Thank you, Mr. Mcnite. Mr. questions. Two more questions for the applicant. Um, real quick, um, this, in my understanding is a prototype building. Um, essentially these are prepared and designed for the traffic that, you know, they expect. Like this is a a standard size building. It it is a standardized building. Um I mean they have various uh models okay you know of buildings. I wouldn't say you know they have a straight prototype.

Okay. Um but yes it it is uh designed for this area. Okay. Gotcha. And then to add to that, the studies that you reference are scientific and very extensive with respect to queuing and efficiency of the operation of this facility. Right. That's correct. As well as parking for dining in customers. and and again that those those suffer as well as being able to uh have adequate parking for the operator.

Okay. And so in your opinion with the constraints that you're faced with, this is the ideal layout to support the operation of the facility. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions, Mr. Parker?

That's it. Uh I think Mr. department covered a lot of what I would ask uh Mr. Browning. But maybe one thing that would be helpful just for everybody's kind of mental picture here is, you know, I hate to say I'm in a generation of people who's frequented a lot of drive-throughs, typically uh Chick-fil-A, if I could find it, but what I've come to realize as a as a maybe as time has progressed is that that the the drive-throughs kind of transitioned and, you know, the the typical drive-through would be one lane uh a you know, like a box that was a recorder that you order from with a with a menu kind of there. Um, and then I think that the question was asked by somebody before and you you expounded upon it a little bit, but maybe give us some more detail where you pull up to the window and there's an attendant kind of handing you your items out of a window. Sure.

And I know that as it relates to this particular design that I'm seeing that was on the the screen a moment ago that that's sort of couldn't be further from what y'all are implementing here. And I know Mr. partner asked some great questions about, you know, studies and and um you know, all of the data that probably went into this, but just for our benefit, describe, if you will, the process a customer would go through driving around this drive-thru.

Sure. So, a as you mentioned, uh, the I'll, for lack of a better term, what I'll call old school drive-through experience is you pull up to a kiosk, you don't see a person, you're speaking to a speaker, you give your order, you pull around, and whether it's multiple windows or a single window, you're going to pay and be handed your food. Um, I won't say it's proprietary, but what Chick-fil-A is on the leading edge of is a more personal experience. And since that has really went away, what that allows them to do is in your what they call face-to-face canopy, which is your order point, you can have multiple associates out there working. So instead of one car or if it's a dual drive-thru say I won't name another name but you know a single point transaction with the kiosk you can have four five six associates out there in a busy time taking you know those number of orders at one time. So instead of one two cars ordering at a time you could have four or five cars ordering at a time and all moving together. The same happens on the meal delivery side where instead of one transactioning happening at the window where you're receiving your food, you could have multiple associates out there handing food at the same time, which in turn allows them to move a greater number of cars through in the same amount of time. It would take another fast food restaurant to move one or two cars through. And if you've been a, you know, benefactor of this sort of new phenomenon, I'll call it, it doesn't just benefit y'all in terms of moving customers through probably, if I guess, and you can answer this, I'm assuming, uh, with the data and all the studies you've you've I'm assuming seen, it's probably safer. Is that correct?

That's correct. That's correct. It and typically, again, when you're talking drive-thru, stacking is the paramount um factor in safety, right? you if stacking backs up, you're stacking into the parking lot and movements, vehicular movement, pedestrian movement, things like that. So, the flow of traffic and the optimization of how quickly you can get cars through there prevents that excessive stacking, therefore preventing uh you know, dangerous [snorts] uh interactions between whether that's a parking vehicle, a pedestrian in the parking lot, what have you. Do you believe this layout, this property was designed with all that in mind?

I do. I know for a fact it was. I did. I That's all the questions I have in light of that information. Anybody else have any questions? We'll go around one more time. I don't have to call names or if [cough] [clears throat] Mr. Dixon, is the uh the only cut into Gristen Parkway, is it uh Empire Drive? Is that the only cut in? Because right now the cut as I went by there the cut in right now is in front of uh the building and that's not where Empire comes into Gryom Parkway.

Again so to answer your question uh I mean that is a you know a previously approved development but yes there is only one entrance uh or or one cup for Empire Drive off of Gristle. That's the only way you can get into this facility. Uh there is a entrance off of 29th Avenue North. Okay. Empire Drive makes a quarter turn around. So there will be a curve cut from from Gryom into Empire Drive. It'll come in and then there will be an associated one on 29th Avenue North. The only access to our part our parcel is off of Empire Drive. Okay, that's that's all I have on. Thank you, Mr. Dixon. Mr. Khan,

may I ask uh is this already under construction? It is not. It is not. Empire Drive is under construction. Development around there is under construction. Our parcel is not under construction. The building is not our building. No, sir. Can I ask Mr. Ro a question? Absolutely. Would the city rather than center it and have ask for variance on both sides or are they better off just to have variance on one side? The other issue with centering is once you start sliding up, you start having issues with the the entryway throat. Can you maybe explain what you mean by sliding up?

So that doesn't we take this and slide it up. We started having issues. We slide it up. Then we start having issues with this parking right here. If we start having vehicle stacks because as stated, you're having individuals leave, but then you also have to have enough room for them to leave. Well, if you slid it up, you would just uh they're exiting. So, as long as they can get around those first few parked cars, I see your point. But by grabbing this down here, we're able to increase a little bit of the stack lane here depending on how these we got. True. The traffic count shouldn't be that crazy, but again, you're looking at this will future wise, this is going to be a new public road. Okay,

thank you, Mr. hotel questions. No questions. Mr. McNight, no questions. Mr. Parker, no more questions. Just one one followup, Mr. Ralph, on top of what Mr. Khan asked. Sounds like that consideration was looking at the potential future traffic on the road outside of this property. Is that fair? that and the magnitude that would come off that property because keep in mind you're having people whether they enter from Robert Gryom or 29th enter the property then you're they're going to exit back on those same travel ways. You got to look at uh neither one of these are going to be lit signals at this point.

So you're looking at people going then to those access points then leaving that property in light of that Mr. Khan or Mr. Dixon or Mr. Patel Mr. night. Mr. Parker, anybody have additional questions from board members? This may be a little unorthodox and I I appreciate you gentlemen bearing with me, but it seemed like Mr. Decker had his hand up back there. I know he offered public commentary. I I'm let him ask a question if he has it since he spoke. The other individual who didn't come forward and speak during public commentary, I'm sorry I can't let you ask a question, but Mr. Decker, if you got a question, ask it now. Yes. Real quick, uh again, George Decker from Kerry Jro. Uh, Enterprise Drive. Is it

Empire? Empire Drive. That extends all the way out to 29 or is it called something else? It's It's just a loop road. It's all the same name. So, it's all the same. Yep. So, all the way out to 29 where it's been made and a road is being constructed. It's all the same road, Empire. Okay. And real quick, uh, is, uh, has a traffic study been prepared and submitted or is it requested or not part of? That was a earlier version that is handled through public works.

Okay. And Mr. Der, again, we typically don't allow members of the public to ask questions. This is normally a forum for you to make comments, but since you had your hand up, I figured I'd humor you and I appreciate your and that is appreciated. Thank you. So, let's end public discussion now. and we'll go to comments from board members keeping in the same flow of traffic if you will. We'll start with you, Mr. Dixon. This is just discussion. Discussion. Yes, sir.

Okay. I think it's a really good thing to show that the entry into this place is only done off Empire Drive. [snorts] Uh the backup that I know uh from these this kind of a place is going to back up all the way back up into Empire Drive and won't affect Gryom at all. So, that's very good. But the building is built. I don't know why you say it isn't because there uh the other the only thing other thing I have to comment about is that since the Chick-fil-Ass that I've seen, they back up a long ways and are probably backed up all the way to Empire. I'm concerned about people parking there trying to get in to uh sit down in in Chick-fil-A, but that's just my concern. It doesn't make anything to do with the request variance. Those are the only comments I talk to.

Thank you, Mr. Dixon. You're as always comments are very welcome. Uh Mr. Con, still being new on the board. Is this where I voice my opinion? Yes, sir. Yeah. Okay. I I think it's pretty good design. I think a lot of thoughts been put into it. Um, I think options have been weighed and uh, I really don't have a problem with it. Thank you very much, Mr. Con. Mr. Ch, no comments. Thank you, Mr. Ch. Mr. Mcnite. No comments. Thank you, Mr. McNight. Mr. Parker,

um, I make three. Um just east of this in the um I guess it's um Sherin's complex they have a amenity building or a administration building which is set back very close um to the road driveway. So in the vicinity we already have one that is virtually the same distance off the rideway. Um in the past we have approved these canopies um with this level of variance I think as most recently as about [sighs] I want to say six months ago. So this is not um unique for this board to hear. And then I guess the last point I have is related to this parcel was established because of this road 227 ft in depth. And based on the design they have there are criteria between drive aisles, parking spaces and lane widths that have to be adhered to. And for this design to work in this configuration, the building practically has to be located where it's it's cited. And so, in my opinion, they've done the best they can to sight the building. And they're just running up against obviously a hard time with um a misunderstanding with the three-way front setback. And I I can't fault them for that. That's it. Thank you, Mr. Parker. As always, valuable valuable discussion. Same same thing for Mr. Khan. I don't think I'm going to add anything that those two individuals didn't say much

better than I would have. Um, chair, I'll retain a motion. I'll make a motion to approve. Good second. I've got a motion to approve by Mr. Parker, a second by Mr. Patel. Let's get hands in the air for those individuals who are in favor of that motion, please. Two, three, four. Motion carries.

Thank you, Mr. Brown. Appreciate you being here. Those members for your time. Yes, we appreciate you saying that, too. Thank you, Mr. Brown. Those members of the public who participated were present. Thank you'all for being here as well. Thank you. All right, that's request 25-10. I'll find my agenda somewhere. I think that may have been our only request for new business, Mr. R. Is that correct?

Let's I know we got to write a motion on that in order. But before we do that, do we have any communications from staff? Uh working on get you guys those that need any type of training for state requirements. We'll probably stuff out to you via email. Do it at home or wherever. Um, those that don't need it probably just need an email saying I'm of such type of individual. I think it covers attorneys and civil engineers. You guys get over I hope so. Maybe not. I see that there's a uh included board of zoning appeals 2026 meeting schedule. Do we need to vote on that or is that still

vote? Anybody Anybody have any issues with any of the meeting dates? Yes. That's a lot of

Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. laughing at my poor poor choice of humor there. Before we move on on the um continue education, our contractors excluded from that. I have to look at the state law. U we'll see what we have. You may already have some classes. If not, uh there's a lot of online training. assist them. Yeah, I just took eight hours. I may I don't if so you've been doing a lot of training, Mr. Ro. I just took eight hours of continuing education for the state of North Carolina, so I don't know any there's probably overlap.

I'd like But uh anybody see any none of these are an issue with any national holidays. So, anybody in this room on the board? It's always just the second Thursday. Am I seeing that pretty consistently? Yes, it's always the second Thursday. I mean, I could complain. I already heard a complaint. We all heard it. So, do we need a motion to approve these? Yes, please. There's not a motion that we approve the date printed. I'll second.

Thank you, Mr. Khan and Mr. Parker. I guess anybody any Well, let's do it the right way. Anybody, everybody in favor of the motion to approve the dates as presented on the draft document passed out in the packet motion here. Thank you, Mr. Congr. Uh, any non-aggenda items from board members to staff? Hearing none. We need to write a motion. An order. An order. An order. An order. So I'm willing with to go with staffs A and B.

Well, you can't read all four. You sure can.

Who says that? We got we got to squeeze out. Um, can we take A, B, and D and then maybe look at the I was about to say I think we can I think we can talk um or blame them. I mean,

it it is good. But that's what I thought. Um, is the problem struggling? I think I think staff's D is the problem. Can't get a complete. That's what I mean. Come on. We've had some of those once or twice, haven't we? Surely not. What about what you said about the development of this parcel with respect to the the the pre-existing roads and

well I mean it was established you know by the subdivision is only 227 ft and I mean for them to fit two drives um the driveway between the parking stalls the parking spaces the driveway between the parking stalls again I mean it's configured practically perfectly to fit inside the site with the the code requirements, but I don't know how to write that. I think it

but I mean that that was to my other point. I mean there is a structure just down the street that is I mean 10 ft off the property and the surrounding area is largely developed. Few exceptions. I I mean I we haven't had to write a lot of these. I feel like I struggle with that one because is it not unique to have all four? I mean I think it definitely would be unique. I think they're all well reason. I think they are all well reason. I just I don't like their scene because it's just too long.

Any other comments from would include an existing structure already built inside. Yeah. Right. And that's not there. The comment I made around it works out. I know that's what I think you're

I almost asked you that. Did you not access the main building on that? Is that even question as part of the ordinance accessory buildings um with with setback reductions? There is no accessory noted in highway commercial. Not in high commercial otherwise wouldn't even be here. Yeah.

But in residential there is right. Oh yeah. residential can be done. You be 5t off. All right. I mean, I can throw off some ideas if you guys need assistance. Yeah, I would probably look at the surrounding zoning classifications and some of the alignments within that kind of noted and how that parallels in the request. Some of these zoning classifications really don't ask for setback. some of the classifications existing structures that are that closed school and

so neighborhood basically I I just I'm I mean I'm okay with ABC that's what he kind of I think we use his D and their ABC and C okay can we just add that statement to probably do So, so you're going to use staff ab and applicants with the addition of other structures are located along Grist Parkway um in a similar setback um

as alignment as the subject parcel or subject or whatever. I'll write that. Is everybody clear on that? Yeah. Applicants A, B, and C and then this kind of hybrid D. I mean, Mr. Parker, is that in the form of a motion? Yes, that is my motion. Would anybody like to be that second? Or if not, we'll hang out till we have a second. Second. Thank you, Mr. McNight. I appreciate that. And that was stats A, B, and C, and apps D.

Well, it's a I think it's a combination of the two D's. Cameron is writing it down. Yeah, I'll um I'll share it with you as soon as I'm finished. Once he's finished writing it, we'll have you read it if you don't mind. Sure. That way, Mr. Mcnite will be clear on what he's seconding and we'll all take a vote on it. That's a great idea. Sorry, I ch in with the audience participant. I think you're fine. I mean, you were trying to get us where we were going anyway. A little bit. He I don't think his geography was

It's very unusual that we've had members of the public ask questions. Sorry. Thank y'all for not complaining too much. They usually call beforehand, get all the information. I mean, it's fine for them to come up and speak. I don't know too much about them asking questions. All right. So, the granting of this variance would not be in detriment to the areas as the surrounding parcels are developed. There are other structures located on Gresen Parkway east of the subject application aligned with a similar setback.

Anybody got questions about that? You still willing having heard that Mr. Ring Knight's still willing to second it? Yes. All those in favor of that motion carrying cans in the air. All right. Clear on the vote on that, Midy. Okay. Thank you. Okay, that was a little tough. Cameron, thank you for doing the line share work on that. Good job. I believe that completes our agenda for today. Motion to adjurnn. Mr. Khan. Motion to adjurnn. Second by Mr. Parker. Everybody in favor of that motion, hands up. Thank you.