Downtown Committee - Regular Meeting

Let's call this meeting to order because

And

the city has scheduled a meeting for Amanda at 08:30.

Which I will be late too. Andrew.

If you could take the role, please.

Okay. Yes. Committee member, Katmau. I'm here. Foreman. Here. Keith is not here. Katz.

Here.

Stephanie Lynn, not here. David Lynn, absent. Malera, no. Sheik?

Here.

Vice chair Baird? Here. And chair Kasperzak?

And here.

123456. On. Oh, the Zoom was wrong. Let me email her really quick. Okay. But, yeah, you can proceed with minutes. I'll email Maran as well.

Alright. So item number three on the agenda is approval of the minutes, and the minutes for September 2 have been submitted. Is there a motion to accept the minutes? Moved by Jamil. I'll second. Seconded by Peter Katz. Is there any comment from

the public?

Nothing. Anyone on the news?

Okay. Which case, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Alright. The motion carries unanimously.

Yes.

Thank you. Emailing that as well. Okay. Hi, Marina.

Moving on to item oh, yeah. Item four is upcoming agenda topics. You can see from the agenda, a long list of things that are sort of on the list. Mhmm. See.

And if so that's there. And any any comment that no questions, or we can't really discuss anything that's there. But okay. Then moving on to item number five, oral communications from the public. Anybody new online yet?

Nope. Oh, hold on.

Nope.

Okay. Having nobody online and nobody in the audience, there's no oral communications. We will move on to item number 6.1, downtown development update, and we don't have a community development person here yet. So

Yeah. Let's change that.

We'll we'll move back

to them. I'm I'll message Vincent right now.

Did they change or is that I didn't see any new stuff. So

Yeah. I don't think we've had much in the way of updates.

Yeah.

But yeah. Okay. I'll just message him.

If there's nothing, they don't have to come down.

Okay. So I I did run into Diana Pancholi and that townhouse development next to the post office that was stuck in PG

and E

limbo. Mhmm.

She told me last week that she signed off on it.

Oh, great.

Oh, great.

So Okay.

I don't

know what hap and then she says public works needs to do a few other things. So at least it's

Alright.

Thank you. That's great. 2 Castro Street update.

Okay. That's me, and I am here to present. Okay. Alrighty. Okay. First thing first. Hi, Ben. Good morning. As you know, the city is recruiting applicants for appointments to the board of library postgreens, environmental planning, parks and rec, downtown, performing arts, and senior advisory committees. Just to note to you all that EPC applications are due October 8, and all app all other applications are due October 15. Thank you to to you all who have submitted applications.

And, Amanda, has there been an update from the city attorney or the clerk's

You office? Read my mind, or I read your mind. Boom.

There we go.

So the member eligibility has been updated. So you can see here, all committee members shall be Mountain View residents except as provided in policy section 12 below, and I copy policy section below below. Downtown committee, not required to be residents of the city of Mountain View, but must meet the other eligibility requirements. So Great.

News coming.

So we should tell them.

So So you do you know, as you know, for the downtown committee, we have positions for property business owner, business representative. We have representatives from various entities and then community members at large. So, obviously, the community member at large would need to be a resident, but if you are a downtown property owner or business related, you do not need to be in Mount View, which is good because that helps to broaden our pool. Okay. I noted this and just this was new to me.

I was not aware of this policy, so I'm making you all aware as well. In the past, we've handled absences that if you just let me know, it's considered excused. It turns out that is not the current policy. So just so your for your all of awareness, kind of excused absences are either you're ill, on leave for family for birth or adoption of a child, bereavement, or this it wasn't a adopt a meeting of the adopted schedule. So turns out there are far less

Reasons.

Yeah. Reasons. So, again, I was not aware of that. I've been operating under my prior assumption and holding you all to that standard, but now that we're aware, unfortunately.

So vacation is is unexcused?

Per the policy, unfortunately, yes.

Now, the impact of this is minimal except when it comes to possible reappointment.

Mean, that's really not lot stuff. That's an important thing.

There is a thing is if you miss three or have three unexcused absences in a row, there's grounds for

depression, you think.

Yeah. I'll I can look at that a little further. But, yes, you're absolutely right. Nothing's really gonna happen. You know, if it's on occasion, you miss a meeting

You probably just double. Yeah.

Will say when people go for reappointment, I'm asked to provide the attendee record and council considers that, but they can choose to weigh that however they choose. So, anyway, just making you all aware as as like I said, this was new information to me. Just noting Oktoberfest is this weekend. Oh, really this weekend. It's really happening.

Weekend. Yeah.

Really happening. I'll be there on Saturday.

Wait. What? No. It says

Peter. Slash snap. Says Peter.

So encourage you all to go. It should be a good time. And

Just could could I just say just just a reminder be and I'm trying to read this into the record for anybody who's actually watching.

But Yeah. Yeah. Please.

You know, the location has moved, and so that's important.

Oh, okay.

Yeah. It's not gonna be up by Steins.

It's going

to be down here. Right? Right there.

Right

there. In the 500. So which way do we face?

It'll be

at There we go. There.

There we go.

And the sidewalk's gonna be fixed by then?

The sidewalk should be fixed by then. Yeah. Yep. Scaffolding will still be

up in front of Kaiser. But

is church gonna be closed, shut down, or no? Are any streets gonna be shut down? No?

No no cross streets. Just Castro.

Oh, yeah. Alright. Okay. And we talked about this last week or last meeting, but I wanted to provide an additional update. So as we discussed last meeting, the city is in the midst of this strategic communications project.

As I as you can see from the map to the right, there, it's which is mapping out construction projects that will happen in the nearish term downtown, and there are quite a few. And so in response to that, we brought on a communications team to help us develop some a a downtown brand, some tool kits, you know, for how we communicate about construction projects, and then provide ongoing support. So perfect example is this curb project that Public Works had was working on. And they tagged me in, and I was able to put together press releases and emails to all the neighboring businesses. I reached out to, you know, anyone within a certain radius that might be impacted.

We did noticing to the public. We did social media. I printed out signs on the a frames that instead of just saying sidewalk closed, it says, you know, we're making downtown accessible for all. Like, this is get more information. You know, scan this QR code. So really trying to create some messaging around impacts that might happen so that people don't have a negative experience. So those are the kind of things that we're trying to institutionalize and create some structure around. As I noted last week as or last month as well, you know, we have a couple of objectives. Again, it's around awareness about project timelines. Lot 12, affordable housing project is a perfect example.

We wanna mitigate impacts by giving people a heads up. And if they come across some impact, Lot 12 will be closed. But, hey, there's parking right there kind of information so that people feel that it's not overly impacting them. We wanna build excitement for long term projects. So, again, the last 12 project, this is really great. We're gonna have affordable housing, more people, and foot traffic in our downtown, and then just promoting the downtown in general. So this is an opportunity as we're talking about all the stuff happening in downtown to not just say construction projects, but, hey. Also, we've got great businesses. Come shop, dine, eat, play, have fun in our downtown because the construction is only a small part of what's happening down here.

You said about the construction was happening in there. Can we put temporary signs in there that parking where is the parking available?

That's exactly what we're gonna wanna do. Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely right, Jamil. And so, like, we're gonna be closing down the parking lot here pretty soon, like q one. And so I wanna start putting a frames in there now so that the people who are using that parking are starting to have an awareness, a heads up months in advance. Hey. This parking lot's going away, but don't you worry. There's parking here. There's parking here. Lot 12? Lot 12. They're starting construction? We're anticipating q one, the site will no longer be available to the public. I don't know how soon construction will start, but

it will it will

be updates on the 236 Castro? I need you to that, sir.

We'll maybe tag Vincent in when he does his update. 236 Castro. Just sort of put that bug in your ear from when we come back around to you. Okay. So as Okay.

On me?

Yeah. And so as construction on Lot 12 happens

Mhmm.

This group has had a number of conversations in terms of what we can do instead of having, you know, ugly green fencing. You know, is there signage? Is there historical pictures? Are there other things that that could be used? Are those being investigated and funded?

Yep. As part of this project, we've asked Miller Maxfield, our consultant, to design some construction fencing. It's pretty expensive to put up. So and because there's gonna be

proper housing.

Yeah. And as it it's a quite a bit of frontage. You know, we're gonna be prioritizing probably the cross streets since there's you know, that's that'll be where most of the people will be passing, you know, since the it faces the back wheeling. And so we've got limited funds, but we're gonna add some construction fencing, some positive messaging, you know, where we can.

Yeah. I I just think that, you know, this is our really our first opportunity to look at fencing in a different way because there is gonna be much more construction on that, especially as we start doing the pet mall or whatever. So it's kind of a test case in some ways. So even if we do it small, I think it's yeah. I wanna encourage us to look at that.

Yeah. I 100% agree. I I think especially as these projects are up for months and months and year plus, we've seen in standard for monthly. Yeah. And that's what we wanna talk about is how we can standardize it, support private developers in doing it. But we've seen, you know, in other places, was it in Colorado, 4th Street when they had their very big impactful project. You know, they had this bright colorful fencing, and and it really makes a difference in how people interact with projects like this.

With peoples.

Peoples. Can see what's happening.

Yeah. You know, some developers sometimes put up time lapse cameras that you can, you know, can look at. So we'll we'll be coordinating with the the affordable housing developer to see what resources they're bringing and then what the city can bring. But this is, again, just an example. As you can see whoops.

We have paint temporary signs like these.

Mhmm.

You know, guys. You know? Yeah.

And I have a laminator, so watch out. Laminate signs and put them wherever I want. But so the big update really for this is that we have developed a brand, Downtown MB in Motion, which you can see sort of reflects the fun nature of our decorative street treatment. And really, this is just a home, you know, an umbrella for city communication. Communication.

We want we wanna have a fun way to talk about everything that's happening in downtown, but also what's coming forward. You know, this this arrow pointing to all the exciting investment that'll take place. So, again, this is a brand that we'll use for city communication and really, I think, evokes a real sense of movement and action and fun in the downtown. When I saw this brand, I'm thinking of the people playing cornhole or dancing outside to walking downtown to kids playing. So we're hoping to bring that fun energy and visuals in as we talk about the construction project. So you'll start seeing this more.

And this is something about the those treatment. So I saw talked to the gentleman who was cleaning the treatment on one block and second block. Mhmm. So he told me that, oh, yesterday, I cleaned first block. So I walked up there and already the markings on there. So is there any after the treatment, like, when you clean your, you know, or you put some kind of coating on top of it? Is it longer?

A seal it

or something.

Yeah. It's a really great question. It's because of our sort of environmental restrictions, we can't use, like, any chemical products. So we're just power washing the street with really hot water is what Power washing. Laminate. Yeah. Yeah. Laminate. Laminate. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, and, you know, we we, the city, and the committees who voted on this selected that, you know, that paint type to be because it was both within our budget and also had a certain level of longevity. We didn't do sort of the next level, which would have been, you know, like, the really thick paint that we paint street lines with. So we made some decisions when we decided to do this project, and so, you know, we're finding that it's just getting beat up more than we anticipated.

So we're working to find more cleaning cleaning opportunities, but you're absolutely right. It it shocked all of us how quickly it got dirty, like, within hours.

Yeah.

You have to understand. You're attracting more people downtown. There's people walking more. The kids literally walk on

the lines. You know?

They they drive the shelves. Yeah. I'm just trying to see when it starts

to And people are spilling things. Yeah. It's So your point is well taken, and we are looking into what we can do if we can bring additional cleanings.

Even committee members can take turns clean too.

Yeah. We'll hand out little scrub brushes.

The camera and were just saying we should take your shoes off before you go.

Yeah. It's a no shoes street. Perfect.

We can

rent little flip. Okay. So those are all of my updates. Alright. Thank you.

Cool. So let's backtrack to downtown development update. It And didn't look like there were any, but

Good morning, everyone. Good

morning. It's upon associate planner.

There aren't

too many updates, like you mentioned. It's the few that I can call out in terms of the items are well, item number 16, which is three twelve. That was recently approved by the planning division on September 24, and that's just a front facade modification and minor addition to the existing vision building on the 300 Block that used to be the previous Tap Plastics location.

Oh, finally.

Where is Where is this?

Yeah. So that one was recently approved. They're in the process of, submitting building permits, and that will be under review shortly. And then, once that is approved, then that instruction will begin. But right now, there's

if there's a tenant?

Yes. So the tenant is VeeLux. They are a Window tree. Yes. It's a it's a

Oh, window. It's

a It's a like a skylight. Yeah. Know?

I'll have

them at

home. No.

We could find

the house.

Window. It's like a

window, skylight. They're like a Danish company as well.

Yeah. They wanna have a a showroom, really cool. I like that.

Yeah. So this is anticipated to be their flagship showroom. Oh. Wow. Big deal.

Who needs an Apple store? So,

yeah, changes are coming to that location. But, yeah, right now, they're still in the process of building permit review. And so don't have a timeline yet necessarily, but they're in the process of getting that Great. Through. And then the other item is item number 22, which is 682 Villa. That was approved. That was an administrative permit approved for some minor facade and just refreshed to the existing building over on Villa Street. But aside from that, and I know someone mentioned Yeah. 236 Castro. So I did check online.

It looks like the building permits were recently, completed. So, they should I think they're in the final payment stage and should be able to pull those fairly soon. But right now, it's, they haven't completed everything yet, but, it seems like they're in that nearing the end of, being able to pull their permits and then, con continue with the construction process.

Great. Yeah.

That was all the items that I had up for the updates. Were there any questions?

Oh, do

have a question? Not here. There's a building on Bryant And Dana, the brown big brown building, four story building. I don't know. It is big for for lease sign on there, 26,000 square feet. Yeah. There was a security company there or something like that at one time. No. I was wondering. It's behind Monte Carlo, the one. Yeah. Behind Monte Carlo and

the beautiful new brick.

Oh, the

the old one. Old brick. Yeah.

TikTok was It used to be the old garage.

Yeah. Yeah. TikTok was that. Watch him. Do some follow-up. Talk.

Yeah. I'm not familiar. I I is that the 300 branch?

I should've seen that. Oh,

I'm I'm looking to see. Oh, okay. Hold on. It's sort of

cross diagonal from the Adobe. Let me see it.

I'm gonna

share my screen and see it.

That that one, I'm curious about what's going on there, actually.

Talking about this one? Yeah.

That one.

No. No. Across from that. Right?

No. No. That's That's

the one.

That's the one.

This one here. That's the one? Yeah.

Because you see the site.

Yeah. I the last thing we called was that had a permit to deal with some facade upgrades. They were installing some new, like, I believe, like, stone paneling and facade modifications, but I'm not aware of any tenant that is going into that space. So but but I believe they're pretty close to be complete with the facade updates on this one.

K. Great.

Thank you.

This is Superb. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Then

let's see. Where

are we? Moving

on then to new business. Mandy, you're gonna get a Super Bowl World Cup update?

Let's get into it. Thank you, Vincent.

I hear the president is taking it away from Kellogg.

That's insane. We'll have to operate on a certain understanding. Okay. So as you know, we have two big events that are coming to our region in 2026. And cities up and down the peninsula here and across the region are thinking about how we can activate.

So a couple of just scheduling pieces to orient you to. So Super Bowl is February 8, but there is a whole heap of things that are happening up till the week before. So there will be activities that are taking place sort of in the lead up. The World Cup is a month ish long event, and there'll be a 104 matches that are happening across North America. So there are games that'll be played in Canada, The US, and Mexico, which is good because that means all the games will be at reasonable times versus, like, I have to wake up at two in the morning to watch my team. So it it works well for us. Specifically in the Bay Area, you can see I

heard Croatia is a powerhouse.

And you can see just here the Bay Area hosted matches. So these are the matches that will be, you know, played locally. But they're, I think, pretty early in the oh, yeah. You can see they're pretty early in Yeah.

The Early elimination.

Early thank you. Early elimination games. I just pulled this just to kind of orient you to what the opportunity is and why so many cities are working hard to figure out how we activate. So there is really a a huge anticipated economic benefit to come to the Bay Area in terms of, you know, people coming to the region to spend money, but also just in activating and engaging the population that is here around teams that are playing. And it's kind of hard to see, but I just highlighted, which I thought was interesting, but 59% of them aren't expected to speak English, and 68% may not have a credit card.

So there's some interesting layers of how we're gonna support, you know, visitors that might be coming into town as we we need to be prepared for maybe cash based systems and to have multilingual signage and information. So Like,

we need a a money exchange

business in now. Yeah.

There we go. Do a pop up.

Pop up up card, pop up ATMs. So

as we're the city is thinking about activation, we have a couple of goals. So one, we do wanna do some boosting of the local economy. We wanna figure out how we can, you know, support and amplify what businesses, restaurants, hotels, retailers doing. We wanna bring increased foot traffic. We do wanna enhance some community engagement through some city sponsored events and activations, and we just want to generally elevate Mountain View's profile with, you know, really strategic marketing and really positioning ourselves as a key and fun destination.

And the Bay Area host committee, so this is the organization that is doing the coordination across the Bay to bring the games forward, have put together this playbook. And so this is supposed to be a tool, as you can see, for small business owners and community organizations on how they can activate properly, and I'll explain what that means around NFL and FIFA events and within compliance of those. So, you know, there's well, I'll just jump to it. So for example, the wording you use, you can't say world or you can't say World Cup, you can't say Super Bowl. But if you're promoting watch parties at your at your business, you can say come watch the big game.

So they're, like, you know, subtle language. Yeah. Language the specific language that you need to use so that you aren't impeding on trademark. You won't even use

a little registered trademark thing. Right.

Nope. And you can't even, you know, use any of the graphics. You can't show a picture of, you know, logos, any of that. And and I know Super Bowl, in particular, has people out there roaming the streets and and that cities have gotten in trouble in the past. So we'll be helping businesses to get this information out so they know how they can promote things that are happening. Yeah. And so you can see information about broadcasting rights. So Super Bowl, you can't do large scale watch parties. The Super Bowl NFL does not give permission for cities, for example, to license and show put a big screen up in the park. Super Bowl does not want that.

But if you are a business and you have an existing TV and you wanna show the game there, you can host watch parties. And so, again, you can see the difference of some of the example look some of the examples of what can and can't be done just with graphics. And then FIFA does have restrict you know, requirements for large scale public screening. So they do allow large scale watch parties, but you have to pay to show those games. Again, if it's a smaller scale, you're in your restaurant, you know, Stein's has an existing screen, they can show that, and they just, you know, can use their normal provider, you know, whether it's like Fox Sports or any of your commercial TV packages.

It's just these larger scale events where I think it's a thousand or more you need to start paying FIFA and and obtaining a license.

So It should get richer.

So a couple of things. One, the city is thinking about how we're going to bring some activation, how we're gonna do some place making, but hoping to just have a little bit of input today around business led activations. Would be curious from some of our business business people here, you know, what you're thinking about in terms of kind of activations. And then to the larger committee around, And obviously, Peter, you've got a lot of input here. But things that we can be considering, ways that we can support.

In my mind, things that I'm thinking about is having a form that can be filled out. You tell us what you're gonna do, and we'll put you on a web page with a map that shows all the different activations is one idea. But we'd love to hear from the committee around your thoughts on this and how we can really promote not just downtown, but the broader business community.

Do you have a all the brackets? Could you have a bracket thing that the further that you predict?

Oh, like a community bracket?

Oh, it wouldn't be gambling. It would

That's fine. K. Some sort of a Yeah.

And Sort of like they do on the Today Show for Yeah. Everything under the sun.

Right. Right.

And and this might be an a fun idea for businesses. So That's what

was thinking.

Yeah.

And, you know, other cities are encouraging businesses to have, like, themed cocktails around players and teams and, you know, just bringing ideas forward.

Do we have any sense of I mean, I'm trying to think during the last Super Bowl or the last big game or when World Cup was here in the eighties, you know, how many people were here. I mean, why are people gonna come to Mountain View? And so the things to draw them here I mean, I would think if people are staying, like, at any of the hotels

Mhmm.

You know. So, I mean, do are we getting any sense of what hotel usage?

Not of not of yet. We'll certainly you know, the hotels we'll wanna engage with. We wanna engage with some of the, you know, larger activities. I mean, Peter's had a great idea of, like, what what beyond the games can we do? How can we create packages where, yeah, watch the game and then, like, come play some games. Right, Sean? You know, if there are ways that we can connect, like, complementary activities to endpoint businesses.

If you think about it, there's only, what, 60,000 seats inside of, you know, Levi's Stadium. So people are coming into town who aren't going to watch the game in Levi's Stadium. And so the the question is, what do they and the game is three and a half hours, well, seventeen if you hit it in traffic. But, you know, it's a you know, what else are you going to be doing for the week? And we've actually been talking with some of the other cities too about putting together, like, a a a guidebook that talks about, you know, hey. Are you staying in Cupertino? Well, here's some cool things you could do. You're staying in Mountain View? Here's some other things that that are going on. What what the idea here is that there are things that are evergreen.

Like, you know, Shoreline Park is not going anywhere. Right? But then there's things that could be themed or could be, you know, specific to the event or, you know, something. You know, Amanda and I talked about, you know, having a soccer ball kicking contest down Gastro or something. I mean, there's there's, you know, all sorts of things that could be done that are themed. So being able to put together that kind of guidebook where it's like it doesn't making sure that that the South Bay is seen as a cool place to hang just like San Francisco is a cool place to hang because San Francisco gets all the love, gets all the attention. So, you know, those are some things that are big.

Yes. Anecdotally, in the for the last Super Bowl, like, we have a few small rental properties, and we were really expecting to see, like, a big increase in the pricing of those. You know, like, Stanford graduation weekend, our properties book out months in advance. Mhmm. The pricing is a lot higher, and the last Super Bowl was a bust. Mhmm. We did not there was no increase in price. It did not seem like there was a lot of demand. And I know the city at that time was really concerned that there was gonna be that was right around the time that that when all the signs went up on the streets. Like, you can't park here for Levi's Stadium games because they the city has been expecting this flood of people parking here and taking the train to the stadium, which really has not materialized.

So I think but I think that's kind of a good angle of, like, avoid the hassle, park in Mountain View, then come back here for a few drinks afterward if you, like, park and stay. Like, people don't wanna be driving drunk. But, like, positioning it as, like, a hub, an easy, like, transport hub to the game and with places to stay and hang out afterward. Because whatever happened last time was not there wasn't at least that we saw as you know, I mean, it's not like we have an empire of rentals, but a a couple rentals really

didn't Most people still stay in San Francisco. That's the hub. You know, people wanna come to San Francisco. They don't wanna come to Santa Clara.

I gotta say my Airbnb is already 50% full for February.

Oh, count. Well, maybe better. And I know, like, you know, I think we're the only real transfer point for public transportation from San Francisco to Levi's Stadium. So Mhmm. The train doesn't go to Levi's Stadium, but light rail does.

So

So, Marina, I'm curious sorry. You know, you guys thinking about any sort of activation,

watch parties? February?

I I mean, I was thinking more around the It's definitely FIFA. For FIFA. Yeah.

FIFA. I'm not sure about football. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean and I just think Yeah. When I want to think about the Super Bowl, I just I wanna sit at home with some wings. I

I remember last time we gave Stevens our patio. Oh, cool. Okay. So they asked if they could over lecture. It's empty. Yeah. Well.

I know because they get a big show.

But FIFA, for sure, not sure about football.

Sean, what are you thinking?

We hadn't

planned anything. Our point of view is there wasn't a huge overlap with our clientele and, like, super sports fans. But I'm not sure. I'm I think just in general, I love the street soccer idea even if we just have little goals up somewhere and some soccer balls. Scavenger hunts are pretty popular. So if, like, you pick a couple of businesses and they put up a flag I mean, I'm sure everyone wants the the pop wants everyone wants them to be Germany or USA. Maybe not as many people want guitar, but if you're a Qatari and you come out of you and there's a business that's got your flag and you can take a selfie.

That might be

I like the idea of, like, an adopt a country. I'm totally doing Croatia. And

I'm already investing into Jersey.

So Yeah. There'll be popular ones and not popular ones. But if if that happens to be your country,

you an official, like, blind draw. You can be get okay. That's a really fun idea. And would you be interested in adopting a country? We'll take guitar. That's a good opening match. Yeah. Okay. I'm not. Sorry, Anna.

Thoughts? I don't remember. I I was just gonna say, I mean, it seems strange, but the visitors I get I mean, I'm not from here. We get a lot of visitors. They all wanna see the Google World headquarters.

Yes.

Mhmm. Everybody wants to tour it. Oh, but, like, you know, go check out the grounds, you could stay here,

check out Google World headquarters. Interesting one. Okay. K. Great.

They said it's called Google World.

I remember what Anne was saying. The parking, we tried walk with Tiffany. There were signs in there parked here, but nothing panned out. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking it it is it'll be more than one day, about a week or something. How many days total?

For well

If I broke up, it's, like, a month.

Yeah. It's a month.

Well, but it's only

two weeks.

Two weeks. Two, three matches.

No. I I just thinking about that maybe we can have, like, games big game numbers of day one, day two, day three. Mhmm. Celebrate each day. You

know? I know.

So I'm gonna have a different theme.

Or to do.

Yeah. That's the one thing about, you know, FIFA. It's really spread out. It's the stuff that's in the Bay Area. And, of course, you don't know where whose teams will be here. So

Right. And, you know, we'll wanna be aware of, again, as we get farther along, what teams, what local populations, you know, and connections we might have. So to come. I just wanted to sort of start teeing this up. You know, we're gonna be working very closely with the chamber around business activation and engagement. She has a handoff. Oh, Marisol has a okay. One sec, Marisol. And we'll be further developing the business activation. On the city side, we're still figuring out what we can do to activate and do place making. So more to come on that. Marisol, yes, please.

Again, I don't I watch them more than I play them, but, you know, I'm thinking, you know, like Marina was saying that, you know, her Airbnb is almost booked for February. And in a lot of the things that I've done this year, I've tried to make, like, big weekends out of it. So let's say it's the Super Bowl. You know? Like, what if we were to have, like, a community football game, and that's one day that isn't the same day as the Super Bowl.

And then, you know, you have information on how to get to the game, where you can stay, or where you can watch it, but make the gay like, the community game, like, a destination thing and have things like that. I'm assuming it's probably too late or the train has left to do something that correlates actually I don't know how to say it. Like, partnering with actual FIFA or the actual NFL to have it branded, but something that we can do on a community base and still have it, you know, like, making helping them make an itinerary to visit Mountain View or to visit this side of the bay, if they're gonna stay here and then enjoy the game on Sunday elsewhere.

So why don't we have the city council members versus, some of the committee members of different committees and commissions play a game? Or

Something like that. Or, like, I mean, if, you know, we're talking about FIFA and, like, you know, you claim you claim a country. You know? Like, you're out there playing, I don't know, for your country. Again, I don't I do not play myself. So, I don't really know how that would look like, but, you know, something that, you know, people can sign up for and be a part of, and not necessarily just go to watch it, but can engage with it directly.

Yeah. I think you might as well.

The location is not ideal, but, like, you could do because people are interested in the Google headquarters, you could do, like, a punt pass kick at the Google field down there. Mhmm. Just that it might bring people out just to check it out, but then you've got people out there and not downtown, which is which is where you want them. So

but yeah.

I'm thinking of something over

soccer ball or pastoral?

Well okay. So my Big. My pet project is I wanna paint one of the ball a couple of the bollards. Oh. Yes. Yes. I'm trying, guys. That isn't a commitment, but let's do it. It's my personal pet project. Okay.

I I

think you Overguys. Yeah. Yeah.

The local school kids have the color in squares.

No. They have one. It's no.

No. But I'm

saying you you have to

pay them, though. Right?

It's not No. I did not pay. Okay. I'm just telling you, it's really hard to draw a soccer ball. So we have, you know, we'd have to get someone to really, like, engineer it out. Anyway, but In the middle of the night.

Get a nip bomber. You can, like, you know, like, knit the thing and then

they Oh, a nip bomber. Yeah. You got, like, a knit. Like Fun. You know?

You just

Yeah. I mean, knit it. Can't do it.

It's a bit

But you can do it. That's not, like, the worst. Like, get real thick yarn.

Anyway, you for this initial feedback. This is gonna be an ongoing this is gonna be an ongoing agenda item. So we'll bring it up, bring it back as city activations continue and as the chamber and economic development. Yeah. We'll know. Are they gonna do more like We wanna be careful to not put things in the downtown that can break things. Yes. Right. Yeah.

Anyway The windows.

And then can we get, like, signage near the station, like, called Rabbiton? Because then people know, like, grab a drink over here and

then wait in or out or something.

Yeah. We're thinking a lot about how we can activate this the station because there's gonna be a lot of people coming in. And just one other note, this item will come to you little bit later this year, maybe December. But we are moving, obviously, the farmer's market, and so there will be the farmer's market on Lots 4 And 8 during the Super Bowl. Because, obviously, the train station won't be available. So

Can can the historical association give a special tours for extra tours for Well, I don't game?

I'm I'm She's like, is this what the Croatian

fans are at?

Okay. Thank you. And I just need to find

So we had our public input with Marisol. Seven point two, Art and Wine Festival. Yay. Brief. Oh, Marisol.

Sorry. My my computer's frozen. Marisol, you have to talk for a second. We'll

We had a great time, everybody. Yeah. Fantastic. I don't know if you were there. If you were there, you know. And if you missed it, I'm sorry. But, overall, I mean, overall, it went really well. We had a new wine tasting experience. I don't know if any of you were able to experience it that you were there. We had a variety of wineries come down from the Bay Area, and they donated their wine.

And we were able to provide, you know, an elevated experience outside of the regular concession booths that we traditionally host. So that was really fun. We created a good flow and good buzz around the event. We had over 400 artisan vendors there, which was super exciting and a wide variety of food. The restaurant patios for our downtown businesses were also really packed, so they were pleased.

We did see a little bit of a fewer attendance this year, but we still had a very good crowd. And the chamber did see a little bit less of a net profit of it, but, we're still in really good standing. And then I believe we do have some other things to to work through with the city due to some changes that we're we're impacted with. But yeah.

Oh, I

I don't know if

you wanna

take it from there.

Well, Marina has a comment, but I just wanna say one thing, and and that is that the first bullet here is really, really important here. You know, we've been doing the Art and Wine Festival for fifty three years. And and I've been involved with it for the last six, and it really was the smoothest from behind the scenes. Mhmm. And, you know, Jamilah there, Mike, you there. I mean, many of the people here who who contributed. You know? I think you all said that it's like, wow. We we kinda have it down. And I I think we, you know, lost some momentum when when COVID happened, and then we also had a complete turnover in staff.

And so we lost a lot of the institutional knowledge inside the chamber and all. But, you know, kudos to to Modisol and and to the teams you put together because I really felt that this was operationally really super well done, including adding in this new feature, which was the the wine tasting experience. Mhmm. And and I just wanna

Very helpful. Thank you.

And and I just wanna add about the wine tasting experience. You know, this was one where we had, you know, 10 different wineries, you know, having sips. So as I like to say it, if you want to sip rather than guzzle, you go to this section. And and everybody who went there and everybody who participated in the wineries too were all saying, wow. This is really cool. We will do this again. And so, yes, there's learnings. Yes. There's things we would do differently. That happens anytime you do anything. But but, again, just really, really pleased with with the operations side of it. How the

restaurants participated too? Have you gotten any reports from them on Yeah.

So so it's been sporadic, but we've seen anywhere from from about zero to 18% increase in sales. Mhmm. I didn't hear from anyone except for East West Coast saying that sales were were not increased during that day. And, again, I think the visual was was extremely good in terms of the

patios being filled up. Do we have any idea whether restaurants that were included as, like, food vendors did better than other restaurants?

That, I don't know. Yeah. That's a really nice thing. Marisol, do you have any comment on that one?

Did not have any restaurants that were also food vendors, so that wouldn't.

Well, but we had some that were marked on the map. Yeah. Local Discovery.

Local Discovery. The Local Discovery. Yeah. So I haven't checked in with them on their sales. They were really pleased. The Local Discoveries are, some of our in kind sponsors because they do provide us with food during the event. And, usually usually, they are on board because they do get good traffic and get pro good promo from the event. So

I can can Sean, do you wanna

Just sort of quick. Regarding the attendance. Right? Did do you have any data to compare it with other art and wine festivals versus just Mountain View was also down? So you have, like you see a trend.

Yeah. In in fact, I will add to that list. There's about five or six different festivals that are in the area. All of them were experiencing anywhere from a 15 to 30% drop.

Wow. And attendees? That kinda correlates because that's my industry. Right? Alcohol? It correlates with our kind of lower revenues. My question to you is, have you guys looked into the changing habits or lifestyles about drinking wine in the future. Right? Because the new they're the new, so to speak Sobriety. Right? And it's they don't drink.

They don't have to do.

I'm gonna probably have to do, you know, art and boba soon. Honestly, that's I mean

It it's a super good point. And, yes, we have been looking at that. Alcoholic. Well, we have non we had not actually nonalcoholic beer for the first time, and we'll actually have nonalcoholic beer at at Oktoberfest as well. But, yeah, no, this is a big you know, pay attention to this. You know, we need to look at this going forward.

Mhmm.

Yeah. Something, I mean, that might align with this or or might just be unrelated, but have you ever looked into doing, like, a juried art fair? Because and and what brings it up for me is that, you know, when you've when you've been to a bunch of these, like, it's the it it tends to be, like, very much the same vendors at all of them and very much and year over year at the same place. And it's still it's fun to go down and walk around and maybe have a few drinks. But I was talking to a group of friends who were debating, are we gonna go or not?

And one of the one of them or a couple of them were saying, we go to the Kings Mountain one because it's a juried one. So you have, like, different exhibitors, and you have and it might be interesting if you're if you're also doing this sort of, like, wine tasting instead of wine guzzling. I I don't and if I don't know why attendance is dropping, but it it may be that there's sort of, like, fatigue, art and wine fatigue. There's not a lot of cities that

could Los Altos.

Yeah. Because

ours is more of a crafts carton. Crafts of the yeast. Art wine festival. This was an art and wine festival.

Right. So is there is there a you know, would that draw a different crowd who's not maybe as interested in drinking but is more interested in the art? I don't know.

So Like, fine. Foodies. Right? Like, something like that.

Marisol, are you trying to talk?

Yes. I'm I'm so sorry. I just I just wanted to hear it again. You said a a juried art? What what what was that? Sorry. I just didn't understand.

I mean, obviously, it would be a little harder to administer, but we're you have to be selected to put up a booth. You don't just you don't just pay money and and set up a booth. You're you have to submit, like, a portfolio of work and then, like, the arts the arts and part I don't know what the arts and culture commit committee would select or somebody would select. Like, oh, these are the vendors that we want to set up their art there.

It's like the a la carte or not the a la carte. No. The art in the park that Los Altos Rotary does. Their artists are all selected, and they all, you know, like, they all have a prize and stuff like that. But it's really it's about fine art and jewelry. There's not any crafty sort of stuff, and it's not really about the beer. You can get beer and wine there. But, yeah, it's

And I I'm from Michigan, and so Ann Arbor, Michigan has a juried art fair that, like, draws I mean, from around the region. Like, it's like, tens of thousands of people come to the city for art fair every summer. Maybe we don't want that. We may or may not want that. But anyways, it's just something to think about. I don't know what the trade offs are there in terms of

Yeah. Pamela, you had

So my I had two questions. One is why do we think there's a drop in in attendance? I think we've kind of parsed that out. The 50,000 k in less revenue, how what does that affect, and what a purse what kind of a percentage of

Your salary.

Mhmm. Oh, I get a salary. Yeah.

Yeah. So the the the drop in attendance, yes, we've been we've been talking about, you know, different things. Although, you know, when you're talking about a 190,000, 150,000, whatever, I mean, 150,000 people downtown isn't really noticeable necessarily except to the discerning eye. It still feels full. It still feels vibrant and all of that. And so I just wanna make sure that, you know, we're and we're going, oh my gosh. The sky is falling kind of thing. It's not it's not that. But, yes, we look at that, and then that and that's important. And some of the causes, you know, are not mean, there is a, you know, a little bit of fare fatigue, I think, that's going on.

I think it may have to do with, you know, how do we spruce things up a bit, you know, make sure that it's vibrant. It's one of the reasons why we did the the wine tasting area was to, like, let's try something new. And and and in all honesty, getting back to one

of the

things that Anne said is that, you know, the notes notion of having a juried art fair, I think, is fabulous. I think, you know, we we should, you know, always look at different ways of attracting an an art crowd. 420 vendors is hard to curate.

Oh, yeah.

You know? And so, you know, there's a there's a there's a sizing, but maybe that's a separate thing that we do at some point. Or maybe, you know, we just choose one or two that are spotlighted in some way We make sure

that there's one or two that are big names. Of fine art.

Yeah. Yeah. Just like we have the wine guzzling, we

have Right.

The fine art, you know, kind of thing. Yeah. I mean, there there's there's things that we can do to do that. And I think that every year, we look at what is our floor plan, what is our offering, and have we introduced something new, or have we are we augmenting something that we do? Because, yeah, we wanna keep it fresh. And I will say that, you know, in terms of the survey that we do with, you know, other festivals and all that, you know, our art and wine festival still comes out as top, not just in I wanna go there, but there's more happening here is what we always hear. You know? You're not just doing x, y, and and and z. So love hearing these these kind of ideas. And to Pam's point about, you know,

what

what there's two parts to your question. One what's about the 50 the 50 k. The 50 k actually is is one of the last bullets I was gonna talk about, which is some of the challenges that we had with the city.

That

there there are ways that we you know, there there's wiggle room, I guess, is what we're saying. And so, you know, the chamber's not going away anywhere soon, but, you know, we have had to look at some of the other things that we do and where we cut costs and things like that. I'll now go back to that bullet that that said that we had some challenges. It had to do mostly with blocking of the streets and where the water barriers go and who puts up the water barriers and when they get filled and how they get filled. This is an operation.

And, you know, obviously, the chamber is super, super cognizant of the safety aspect. And so we work very closely with fire and with police and with the streets committees so that, you know, we make sure that they're in the right place and so on. We have this big group meeting where we all talk about it and we all, you know, say, this is what we've decided and this is how we go forward. That's all great in planning, then execution. And there were some some challenges intern internally for the city in terms of communication.

And the people who were on the street did not have the latest minutes from the month and a half before, and so there was some confusion and so on. And so what ended up happening was we weren't able to activate parts of the street that we would have normally activated. And that not only affects, of course, revenue there on the street, but it also affects all of the artists that are down at that block. We had a number of artists saying, how come there wasn't more music down here? Why wasn't there, you know, like, Gabby's Dollhouse is a big attraction two years ago? Why wasn't there something like that or whatever? And it's kind

of,

well, you know, we couldn't quite do that. And so we are working closely with all of the above agencies and with the city to try and figure out, you know, what what's the right formula going forward and how do we communicate better. So I

just wanna tack on to the food thing. I think the food thing among the younger crowd is, like, a big deal. If you get like, my my parents came just for the lobster rolls. Like, they

were like, I follow you on social media. Right?

And then, like, they waited in the line for, like, an hour. So I feel like if you get those, like, hot trendy people carrying those pineapple, you know, whatever they're hearing on

the street.

But, like, those are the vendors I feel like a lot of it's, like, generic. You're like, okay. But if you get those, like, hot, trendy people that come and set up their truck truck, I feel like they'll bring in more people.

Yeah. And Marisol does a really nice job about that. I mean, we have, you know, the ones you must have them or you won't have a festival kind of thing or or your parents won't be coming. You know? Yeah. We we definitely have those, but we also try to mix in, you know, new ones from time to time. Yeah.

The the chamber makes nothing on any of that.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. They do they pay a fee fee? Yeah. Do they pay a fee? We don't get a It's very popular.

People love to yeah. Everyone, like, taking

pictures. Instagram.

Yes. Very, very popular. Like, it'll be colorful unicorn bagels. You know? It's just, like, whatever it is.

The other day, I went a friend of mine actually opened up a pizza truck. Such good pizza, like, personal size. I mean, quick. I think it's great pizza. And that's and it's in

the trunk.

Yeah. In there, I saw that. What the

You cook all this in such a small he's like, oh, yeah. No problem. Like, we they have a whole setup, and he can, like I was like, how many pizzas a day? He's like, about 200 pizzas a day. Like, you know? Mhmm. Amazing pizza. He brought us all, you know, he brought us all pizzas the other day. I'm like, you know, he was advertising it. You know, we benefited for sure, and I was impressed. I gotta say and I I'm picky. I'm a picky eater, so I'll be impressed.

But something I go to Anne, but Amanda has a meeting she has to

get to.

Yeah. And we saw more agenda, I think. To do. I know. Yeah. We have a big

I got over one.

So Thank you. To quickly say, like, I thought as an attendee, I went, and I thought it was great. And it did feel very smooth, and it in some ways, the crowd like, it can be too crowded too, and it was not this year. It was, like, the perfect amount of crowd that it felt really lively and fun, but not, like, where you're shuffling along and you can barely move. So, anyways, I don't want my previous comments to be construed as a criticism. I think I thought it was a great event.

So thank you, Peter and Marisol, for a great great weekend, and good luck this coming weekend. Yes.

Don't forget.

And I

need to talk to you, Marisol, about training. Alright. Item 7.3, committee calendar of meetings.

Yes. Thank you. So, every at every December meeting, we approve a calendar for the upcoming count you know, our calendar of meetings for the upcoming year. And so I wanted to start this discussion early so there will be some time. I would like to propose that we well, I'll I'll tell you what our current meeting cadence is.

So typically, because we meet the first Tuesday of the month, we don't meet in January because that would be during everyone's holidays. And then to match the council council closure, we we don't meet in July and August. So we typically have meetings on these months. As I've stepped into the economic vitality manager role, I'm thinking about staff capacity, and I'm also just thinking about how we can best use all of you and your time. And my feeling and recommendation is that we have less meetings but meatier meetings.

And so I would like to propose that we modify and meet six times a year. I there will be the stretch April, May, June. We have quite a few items that have to come before this committee, the annual business improvement area, the parking management district. All of that happens in this May, June air timeline. So we'd meet in February. We'd have a stretch. We'd go on summer break, and then we'd have two meetings in the fall. So bringing this forward for your consideration, a modified schedule for next year. We could try it out and go back to something else. Or if you're if you do feel that you'd like to continue to have the same number of meetings, we can do that as well. So And

are there any restrictions on your ability to call a special meeting? I mean, if we needed one

Yeah.

You could you could have one.

Yeah. Absolutely. It's at the purview of the chair and vice chair to agree that a meeting that we need a meeting, and and then, of course, you know, it's at people people's availability. So there is the other thing where we hold the meetings and then, you know, we we calendar the meetings and then we cancel them, you know, is another option, and we kind of you know, just to be really strategic around that or we set this count. So there's a number of ways to kinda get at it.

So which months did you oh, there. There. Right there.

Yeah. Sorry. The the additional ones in red.

Thoughts on a modified meeting calendar for the coming year?

Are we deciding this today?

Or we just because

This is just for feedback. I'll have to bring the official calendar back as a separate agenda item, and that'll come in December.

If everybody says it's a terrible idea, She probably

Right. Then I'll bring the I'll bring back the this schedule.

One one thing that's not clear from this is that, you know, if you look at the aggregated amount of stuff that we discuss and and all of that, do we need to, if we're cutting out meetings, increase the amount of time in some of these meetings, like, have two hour meetings instead of hour and a half? That's Yeah.

And I I don't know that we have a firm stop to the meeting. I think we try and generally cap it at an hour and meetings.

They go to when they go.

Yeah. So but I hear what you're saying, you know, if we just sort of all agree, you know, these meetings could go to two hours. Because I know people have jobs they have to get to. They have other commitments. You know, I will say the visual arts committee is another committee in our in our department division, and they go as long as they go. So to your point, it could be we go to less meetings and maybe plan on two hours, although maybe if, you know you guys are frustrated about getting true agenda items, so it may not go that long. But, yeah, it's a good point.

And I think it's also possible, especially, like, today for the development. You know what mean? There there could be a report and that you don't have to actually have staff come in, especially if it's really, like, there's really nothing happening, you know, and and not, you know, just a couple of paragraphs of explaining what's going on instead of sending out just the list or Yeah. A cover a cover memo with the list Mhmm. Could be sufficient.

You know, my question. Downtown I mean, neighborhood, we always need to know development update, you know, but that's good summary. Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I think the last thing we want is staff spending time on coming up with ways to fill time in one of these meetings Oh, yeah. Rather than working on things that are more productive. So if staff feels this would be helpful, then I I support it.

I support it.

Especially since we're here to help Amanda. Yeah. Exactly. Versa.

Definitely. I appreciate that, and we are hoping to get more staff on. But, you know, you for that point, Anne, because there is a lot that goes into before. And then after this meeting, there's a lot that I have to do to put the minutes together and get the you know, there's just it's just a lot. So I appreciate that. And I certainly also wanna be cognizant of your time. And and, again, like I said, have less meetings that need your meetings so that you can really there are big items for you to engage in and provide input on. So it feels like a good use of your time as well. Yeah.

Is I'm sorry. Is there a reason that we do no July and no August, like, two months back to back skip? Is that generally quieter?

Or That's

wanna just do alternating?

It's city

It's city. Good point. City council takes a break in July and August, and so that's why we we've historically oops. Sorry. Mirrored that. Yeah. Every committee and commission

does that. And it's also meant to provide staff the ability to actually take some vacation during the summer.

Mhmm.

Get them

something to

them close-up and get restarted on stuff. So Mhmm.

Also, the fiscal year comes in June, which I suspect is related to it it ends June 30. Right?

Yeah. So July 3. Pretty crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good it's a good point, and I don't know if other committees take different cadences.

No. No. Everybody's off until Everybody's

off until Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah. And I will say, May, June April, May, June, yeah, We have stuff that comes before you got that has to come before you in each of those months. So it would be sort of like a weird little pre summer stretch that we would do. Alright. Well, I'm generally hearing consensus around a modified schedule for this upcoming year, so I'll I'll bring that agenda that item before you in December for approval. And reach out if you have any questions or concerns.

Sounds good. Marisol, anything you wanna say on that as a member

of the public?

Not a member of public. She's a member of the

No. Oh, that's right.

She's a member

the I am a member. Thank you. A real

That's right. Excuse me.

Not a place thing. I don't forget. It's right. Thing.

So senior doing this.

Yeah. I have one.

I'm thinking

he's good. So moving on to item number eight, then committee staff comments, questions, blah blah blah.

Yeah. Hold on.

So we did the Mountain View Historical Association did a walking tour September 27. We had 13 people participating.

Yay. And so that

was exciting to have a

lot of

bodies. Anything else, Marina?

I just wanna thank everybody for the amazing event that we threw together, especially Marisol. I know you worked your

ass on

the paper.

Yeah. It was fun. It was

Which one? Right now?

The the one at the

Yeah. The one

at the Business owners. Right?

So the very, cool. Yes.

Yes.

That was good. Yeah.

So I wanted to tell the committee about the fiftieth anniversary of monthly mediation program will be here in City Hall on October 16 at fifty six and 8PM. They're going by fiftieth anniversary of Mount Airy Mediation program.

Yeah. The mediation program. Right?

Oh, interesting.

Fiftieth anniversary. Fifty years. Yeah. And stuffing. Yeah.

So just going you had mentioned for the lot 12, the a frames you're gonna put up, I think you're gonna freak people out because of the farmer's market. Like, if you see an a frame there and people can be like, like, is there gonna messaging to the phone? Okay. Because I'm like, you put that thing out. There's two more.

That's a good point. Yeah. I'm like, there No. I got you. Will be chaos. That's always what I'm thinking. What are people gonna freak out the most about? Yeah. Like, they're gonna see and

be like, this is what's going away. What's happening to the market? Yeah.

So Great point.

See, we're moving. Yeah.

Here. Well, I just wanna tag on to what Marina said because Marina is soft selling it a bit because not only was the event on Thursday hosted at Monte Carlo, but her dad fed a multitude. Oh,

yeah. Yeah.

And he cooked and he

had the.

Yeah. So Yeah.

And I had so many people commenting.

Is he cooked for 500 people. I kid you.

I kid you.

I went almost left over and

said cooking. And he's like, well, they said 200. I mean, they're not. And he was afraid that he was gonna go home hungry.

So I'm like,

It was so good, though. Yeah.

So I so, again, huge, huge thank you to the entire family. And I also just wanna stress too that we we did a lot of post interviewing of people who were there and things like that. And the whole idea was to really have, you know, a mixture in the crowd of about a third from the general public, about a third of small business people, and about a third from the city. And everybody stepped up. I mean, there really were that kind of mix. And I had a number of people say, oh, I was able to talk to the head of blah blah blah, or I finally met Marina, or I finally met, you know, some some of these people and all that, which was exactly the vibe that we were after. We did get some people saying, you know, that was really a great event. It felt like a party and all that, but there was some good stuff presented. But you could have been harder hitting. You know?

You you could have had some other issues that that were brought up and really talk about some of the hard things that that need to happen down there. I said, excellent point. Next time, but let's talk about that.

Let's ask a question. You opened it up for questions. Most people kind of ask me too.

Well, yes. And and one of the things that we were careful about in the questioning was that we wanted to be focused on the businesses. And so we wanted the questions to be really for the business balance. We didn't want it to be just like, okay. We're gonna city this, say that, say yeah, type of thing. There's no no question that we could maybe do something along

those lines.

But, again, I just wanted to say that that, you know, great, great thank you for to to Marina and and the and the businesses that participated, and we will do more of this.

Cool. Great. Thank you.

Seeing nothing else, we will stand adjourned at 09:07. Are Probably thirty seven minutes late for your meeting. Yeah. They

knew I would be late, so that's okay.

Well, thanks.