Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Just want to get settled, folks. Folks, folks, we're going to get started. It's It's our start time. Thank you. Thank you for coming out tonight. That's folks. Thank you for coming out tonight. It's very very uh encouraging to see so many people come out. Typically we have meetings are a little bit lonely but there's a lot of people here tonight which that shows me democracy's work and people are coming out and and saying what they need to say. Um but let me just kind of go first to the agenda. We have a couple things uh um business items. So let me do my welcome first official welcome. Welcome to San Pleasant Planning Board meeting scheduled regularly scheduled December 4th, 2025 at 7:30 p.m. First up is just administrative business item acceptance of minutes drafted from the 1117 2025 planet board meeting. That was our meeting on 11:17. The board has reviewed the minutes and the board will make a decision whether or not the minutes are complete.

I make a motion that we adopt the minutes of the 117 meeting. Motion by Eileen. Second. Second by Walt. Uh, Walt. Hi, Jean. Hi. Uh, Steve, hi. And Eileen, I

and I for me. Next up, 715 Sleepy Hollow Road. Accept as complete SEO final environmental impact statement FIS for the sub proposed subdivision of a 36.82 acre residential lot into 31 single family residential lots roughly one acre in size. Cluster subdivisions proposed to conserve green space and reduce disturbance. So, what this means, this has not, I'll be very clear, this has not been approved yet by this planner board. I know there has been a perception out there that was directed by the applicant that it was approved. It has not been approved until this board approves it. It has not been approved. I want to be very clear on that. I like to make sure you guys understand we are not going to be having that miscommunication out there and it's not you guys, it's the applicants spread that m misinformation. louder.

I I can be louder myself. My I'll tell you a funny joke though. My my predecessor, the Planet Board Chairman, you may have known him. He was very loud and I thought I could be just like him, but I just can't project as loud, but I'll do my best. You just did a great job. All right. So, okay. So, is the applicant here? Excuse me. Do you want me to recuse myself? Oh, yes. Thank you. Can you say that louder? So, I'm going to recuse myself from this application. Can I have the applicant come up?

Mr. Zappy, you could just state your name for the record. James Zappy. Okay. Okay. So, we have this miscommunication that happened today, which we just want to clear that up. Um, what was posted and where was it posted? Do you know? I don't know.

Hi, Mr. Zappy. Ryan Zappy. Yeah. Uh, it was the notice for acceptance, not uh that it had been accepted. It was the What's the difference? Well, one is noticing the public that it's uh going to be reviewed to be accepted versus having been accepted. Did it state that it was accepted? No, to the best of my knowledge, it didn't. Mr. Chairman, I didn't clarify. Okay, I'm

okay. One thing I'm going to insist on, and I always insist on, one person talks. We will not have people shouting from the back. Everybody will have a due process. We're going through a process right now. Please do not shout or I'm going to have to ask you people to not shout or or potentially leave. We have to have good good process here.

So, Mr. I can clarify that. So the applicant posted in the environmental notice bulletin which is the DEEC um official site of where um notices are published dealing with seeker actions. And the notice was that it was a notice of acceptance of an FEIS. There is no notice requirement of thinking about acceptance of an an EIS. It's a form and it is filled out to say you're accepting a DEIS and FIS or whatever it is. So the document that was posted on the ENB was the acceptance of the of the FBI. It was posted in error that was sent by the applicant. It was premature. So we're going to um re um to to unpost that notice.

Well, yeah. I want a retraction. A retraction. We have to have a retraction because we can't have this misperception, mis miscommunication because people are here tonight because of that misperception, miscommunication. So I want a retraction. And you can work with Pat and Carol, but we have to have a mis retraction of what you posted. They will work with you on what to say and how to say it, but we cannot cannot cannot have this board undermined and have this communication go out without it going through staff. Understood? Okay. So, with that being said, we do not have a quorum tonight and we're not going to take action on this application tonight. Okay. And I'm sorry folks if you came out tonight, but this is where we are going to be at this point.

Okay. All right. Thank you. Hey. Hey. Please leave. Please leave. All right. Let me just get over the interjection here. And I, you know, it's just very disrespectful. I'm We're doing a job up here. And the shouting, "Sir, you just need to leave. Please." I'll leave. Okay. Now, there's some hands. Let's address those in an orderly fashion. So, what's going to happen? He's going to issue this retraction and that'll clear up that misperception. Right? Then, Pat, help me out here. Then, at some point,

you'll consider whether the FBI is complete or not, and you would then accept it. Then, it would get noticed in the public in the ENB. And it has been your policy to have public hearings on the FBI.

So, that's the important distinction to make. It has typically been our policy. I'm one member of the board. There's many members of the board, but typically our history has always been once we decide that this is complete. And all that basically means is that they completed everything. Let me just give you the history on this. For the last two years, roughly two years roughly, they've been responding to all the comments that came out. There's like 2,000 pages. This board gave a bunch of comments as well to them. Things we thought needed to be cleared up. So the staff went through it, checked everything, checked the eyes, and the te's. Eyes are dotted, tees are crossed. Those are all done. We reviewed them as well. And then the whole ne next the natural step in that process would have been for us to say, you know, we've reviewed all this stuff. It's a complete and ready for the public to review. And we would typically, if the board decides, release it to the public to review and then have a public hearing scheduled in due time to allow the public enough time to review it and to, you know, respond to it. So, does that answer a bunch of the questions? A couple more.

Um to have the public comment on a document that's been accepted as complete doesn't leave the board with a lot of procedural options where to go from there. So our request would be that the board release the document which is a public record allow the public to comment on it before the board accepted as complete. So if the public says something that the board agrees with in terms of the applicant could address that before the board accepts it. So there's yeah there's a little bit of correction there. What what the board does is release it to the public. If there's enough information that comes that is substantive enough we can do a supplemental what's it called P supplement supplemental supplemental EIS.

This is a way to avoid that. Understood decision. Okay. Two more questions. Yes. Chairman Collins just procedurally if the notice that goes out can be checked before it goes out. The agendas rather can be checked before they go out. A lot of people showed up tonight were surprised by this being on the agenda and that's why a lot of people showed up.

It wasn't, just to be clear, it was not the staff doing anything wrong. It was not was not the staff doing anything wrong. The applicant made a decision himself to post this in some environmental board which resulted in all this confusion. Yes. Can you explain the time for these next steps when you would be a public hearing?

Typically typically I well right now we're not doing anything before the end of the year number one. So he has to go through the the right steps and get everything done in terms of the the document and us reviewing it which I think that's pretty much done. And then and then Pat help me off here. What's the next natural step? Um it would be again put it on your agenda to accept. All right. It gets put on the agenda. Then we do. So that would be the administrative step. The public hearing would then follow that. Right. would be the timing of all of that

January February in the January to February time frame and yeah so once we accept it as p is once we accept it as complete once we accept it as complete it's released to the public the board typically will release it to the public and then the public hear will come right after that so you have time to comment on it or you have in written form or orally

chairman I just like to know for not releasing this before. I would just say that it seems to me that you want to have as much input from the public or missed by which is why we have the supplemental EIS process.

Why not do it before and not have to do it? In other words, if we see something, it's like avoiding an accident before it happens. get the from the public and from before a decision is made so that you can make a very wellinformed decision. Maybe there's some some things that have been missed and I would just think that it would save everybody's time, especially your own um if you would allow the public to see the document prior to making oral decision.

Okay, thank you. Okay, one more because we we have nothing really else to we can't vote on this and the applicant's not here anymore. So one more. Not tonight. No. And here's why. First of all, the applicant is no longer here. Right. So, that's number one. Number two, we will have plenty of time for you to review. I'm telling you right now, once we get to the point where we say this is complete, it will there will be a public hearing if the board agrees with me, which I think they would. And there'll be plenty of times. It may not be one public hearing, it could be many. It depends on how long the the board decides to leave it open. So there will be plenty plenty plenty plenty of time for people to comment and I want the comment and I I need the feedback because you are more closely vested to the property than I am. That's it folks. I'm not going to take any more questions. There's there's not

there's not for an FIS not for an FBI. There's no required public hearing on an FBI. So there's no time frame to set a public hearing when none is required. The board's doing it above and beyond the seeker regulations and voluntarily. Again, It goes back to Okay. So, I'm not going to entertain more conversation because we've got plenty of time to do it. Can I just give you this? Please do. This is something that I read and your name is My name is Wendy. Yep. Uh this was what I read at one of the first meetings. Okay. And an engineer had reviewed the DEI with several concerns. I want to know if they've been addressed.

Okay. Thank you. All right, folks. We're going on to the next application. Caroline, this is this is a 116 now. Okay. Okay.

Okay. That's why you put the red ink there. Thank you. Thank you,

folks. Can I I I I love having people come out, but we need to start the next one. So, if you have uh make me do make make an expedient exit. Okay. Can I have the applicant for 15 chestnut, please come on up in Pleasantville. Folks, we have another application. Can you just kind of keep it down? It would be very helpful to the next applicant that's out. I'm earning my paycheck today.

All right. It's a new public hearing. Oh, thank you. I'll make a motion to w the reading of the public notice for the public hearing. Um motion from Jean. Second. Second from Walt. Walt. I. Jean. I. Steve. I. Eileen I and an I for me.

Okay, you're you're up for the public hearing. 15 Chestnut Place. Let me just do my official thing if you don't mind. This is 15 Chestnut Place. Pleasville installation of retaining walls to make rear yard more usable for recreation installation of a greenhouse. Application steep slopes SS25-08. Location 15 Chestnut Street section block lot numbers 106.13-3-80. Zone R10. Owner and applicant is John Morsek. Engineer Hillen Brand Engineer P LLC. You're Rob. Hi, I'm John Marzac, the owner and applicant. Am I presenting to

So, you guys question. You're actually presenting to the public. We've actually seen it. So, you can you can actually pivot if you want if and just and is there anybody here tonight for 15 chestnut, please? Okay. I I think not. So you could just speak to us. I don't think there's anybody here for 15 chests someplace. But let's go through the the the steps what you're going to do, what you're doing for the application because we have to present it to the public who could be here raising their hand number one and make sure we go through the process for um TV land. So just kind of quickly review what you're doing, what the plan is, and where we are today.

All right. Um yeah, we're we're proposing um it's a steep slope application to build some retaining walls on our property. Basically to create some additional level level space on the property to uh to make it more use, excuse me, more usable. And then we're planning on putting a greenhouse in as well. Um, I don't know if you can see that well, but that's that's that's the over overall plan there where where the retaining walls would be along the back edge of the property, which is the north side. Um, it will be up to six feet tall. Um, and then there's another retaining wall in the middle of the property and a couple of other retaining walls, but basically to just sort of level out the space.

Okay. And why are you building it? I know the answer, but just state it. The slope right now is um for more usable space. Steep. Yeah, it's provides more usable space and we like to also put a greenhouse on one end. Okay. So, any questions or comments from board members? Was there any determination made about whether there a variance was needed for the um wall height with the fencing on top? Yes, we we thought there would be and we went to went to the town, but it turned out that he said I could just put the Oh, that's right. You were going to have a separation. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it needed to be four feet back and that's why we were going to go for the variance, but six inches. We'll just leave it. Great. Okay.

What's the size of your property? It's about Yeah. 042 point44. Okay. So, it's going to make more usable space. And u we went through town staff and everybody has checked off all the things that need to be checked off from an engineering perspective, from a site perspective. Um engineering department. Yeah. Any final questions, comments from board members?

Okay. Well, that's that's good. Let the record show there's no final comments from board members. Let me just do my official thing to see if anybody here one more time is public. Is anybody here again? One more time. This is the time to speak if you are for 15 Chestnut Place in Pleasantville. Anybody here for 15 Chestnut Place in Pleasantville? Going once, going twice, going three times. Let the record show that no one's here for 15 Chestnut Place in Pleasantville. Um, okay. So, we need to do a couple things. We need to close the public hearing, number one, and then we need to make a decision what we're going to do with the application, number two. So, first up is the public hearing. What do we want to do with the public hearing? Fellow board members, I make a motion that we close the public hearing.

Motion from Eileen. I second it. Second from Steve. Walt I. Jane. I. Steve. I. And Eileene. I. And an eye from me. Okay. So, so that's done. The public hearing is now closed. What's next is um and this is just a steep slope. Just one one one thing we're doing to on the site. Um what is the pleasure of the board in terms of uh the site itself? I move that we um direct the preparation of an approval for the steep slope application. Motion from Mileen. Second. Second from Walt. Walt I. Jean. Hi Steve. I Eileen

I and I from me. And that's it. Barbecue the summer. Maybe late late summer early fall. Okay. Get a contractor first. Thank Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Next up is also a public hearing. 18 Hollyy Place accessory apartment transfer to new owner. They came before us uh two weeks ago. Application PA25-2 accessory apartment location 18 Hollyy Place Vala section block lot numbers 113.13-1-7 zone R440. Owner 18 Hoy LLC applicant Joseph Melli engineer architect Escaladis Associates. Hello. How we doing? Good. How are you? Good.

Welcome back. Just for the record, state who you are. I know who you are. Yep. Thank you very much. Excuse me. This is another new public hearing. I will make a motion to wave the reading of the public. This is why I have friends on the board. So, we have a motion from Jane. Second. Second from Eileen Walter. Hi Jean. Hi Steve. Hi Eileen. I and I for me. Thank you. There you go. That's it. Oh, thank you guys. Have a great day. Wait. Wait. Not yet. Not yet. No. Come back. Oh no. Not so fast. Not so fast. So what are we doing here? We know what you're doing, but we're saying it for the public now. And is there anybody here for 18 holes, please?

No. Okay. Let's just say what you're going to do just for the record. We know. Oh, we're just trying to reinstate the uh accessory apartment that was already existing. So, let me just capsize. You bought a home that had an apartment, you didn't make any material changes to the apartment. No, we just updated it in the outside property. And the process in Mount Pleasant is once the home transfers and the new owner takes over, you have to go through the relication process. Correct. Which is why we're here tonight. So, that's correct, right? Yep. Okay. Any questions or comments from board members? And Mr. Chair, this is fully compliant with the accessory department requirements.

Yep. It's fully compliant as well. Yep. Any questions or comments from board members? All right. Let the record show no comments or questions from board members. If anybody's here for 18y, please raise your hand and let the record show that nobody raised their hand. So now we have two things to do. We need to close the public hearing and we need to make a decision what we're going to do with the application. So first up, let's make a decision on the public hearing. Make a motion to close the public hearing. Motion from Jane. Second. Second from Eileen. Walter. I. Jane. I. Steve. I. Eileen.

I. And then I for me. Okay. Now you can go. Have a good And you're going to have a good holiday. What? We need to we need to vote on whether we should approve this. And I would make a motion that we approve the um uh accessory apartment. I know. Okay, hold on one second. We're We I missed one step. This is the last one. So, I make a motion that we approve the application for a an accessory apartment. Motion from Eileen. Second. Second from Steve. I'm hearing two at the same time, but I'm taking a guess. Um Walt, I Jane. Hi, Steve. Hi, Eileen. I and an I for me. There you go.

Yeah. Thank you.

All right. So, that's it for the public hearings. What's next is what's called a continuing application. We want the public to stay, but this is really more this next application is a little bit different. It's it's an application getting ready for a public hearing. So proposed 20 273 Lake View Avenue, Kensico Cemetery habitat restoration and the development of recreational pathway for cemetery visitors within an approximate 5 acre portion of the Kensico Cemetery parcel application is wetlands number W2 W24-04 location 273 Ley Avenue Valley New York's Kentico Cemetery section block lot number is 117.18-1-1 zone R40 owner Kentico Cemetery applicant Matthew Paresi, Engineer, Wetland Stud Studies and Solutions Incorporated.

Good evening.

And this one, by the way, I think you were here, I don't know, nine months ago or so. A year ago, roughly. Yeah. Two years maybe. Okay. Hey, I know things go by fast. Steve,

Mr. Chairman, just while they're gearing up, as you know, Kellen, our consultant is here tonight.

Oh, welcome, Kellen. Did you did you know that we're all wearing maroon tonight? Sorry, guys. Hi, how you doing? If if you can't get it on the screen. We can do the oldfashioned method and just talk to it too if that's helpful.

Yeah. Yeah.

You want me to get started while Yeah. Yeah, that's it. It's okay. Hi, I'm Damian Hinsky from uh Davy Resource Group, also W Society's engineering team that uh put this together. I'm here representing uh Kenszico Cemetery. Um we were here a little while back. We initially submitted this application in May 2024. Did a public hearing. It's been that long, huh? Um and then it was sort of on delay while the town was looking for a wetland consultant. That sort of paused it for a while. Yeah.

Um so just a background reminder of a project. We can get it off. I will. If not, I'll talk through. Uh it's 5 acres of restoration the cemetery is proposing on its site. There we go. Awesome. It's 5 acres restoration. I'll sit this way and talk within a wooded area. That's a wetland site as well right next to kind of in the middle. Uh it's purely voluntary. The site was uh had lots of the bases encroached throughout it. is degraded and the cemetery wants to restore it as a natural native habitat community and also make it an amenity for the public that is already walked through cemetery walking trails kiosks and a little wetland boardwalk. So that's the essence of why we're here because of the paths and the boardwalk within wetlands and the township wetland ores comp through it. Uh back in 2024 we did a habitat community assessment. We understand what the conditions were pre-existing. There's wetlands in the middle. It's a combination of hardwood swamp uh maple swamp. There's invasives all throughout historically. Um so Japanese notweed multiclores over the past couple years cemetery we've been treating invasives um to try to reduce invasive bring back the native community as part of the restoration project. That's the first step that didn't require regulatory oversight. It just completed to do that work. But that has been done already and we've had great success. You can see on the left hand side that's a an area full of fragmitees which is a common you see it

around. It takes over the entire wetland area. It's monoculture. Very few species use it. It's not native. Uh after a couple years of treatment you can see it's fully restored. Visibility is much nicer. There's native plants already growing to some degree and it's on path to that tree. Uh again, not weed was growing on the edges. You can see it's it's it's getting cleared out and it's doing much better. Just kind of give you a sense of what the center has been doing already. Uh and then I'll go through what we want to do as part of the project as well. And another area of fragmitees and now uh it's wide open and there's some cabbage and the early spring growing there. Um this is the plan. Um so you can see the white are uh mulch paths going through uh the wooded area that will be restored. Uh there's a wooded area forest on the left hand side and then toward the middle uh you can see there's a little boardwalk. There's another one if I got to show you. So the wooded area is here, right?

So where is where is Legion Drive in Commerce Street? If you just orient me a little bit better. Sure. API Avenue. Let me go back over here. This might might be able to answer that question. But here's the cemetery.

Come on up.

Gotcha. Streets and Lake on the other side. If you know where the Tower is, I know that's at this point. Okay. So, you're near the pond then. So, it's somewhat in the center of And you're near the pond in the middle. It's just just the pond flows into a stream. It goes through that woodland area. Gotcha. I know where you are. Y Thank you.

Thanks for asking the question. I just want to clarify. Um so kind of just a sense of what we're doing proposing. So the white paths are mulch paths right through the middle for the forested area. Over here is an emergent wetland area meaning it's sort of low vegetation uh grasses that kind of thing. Um that is the stream runs right through it and that's the area you want to put in a boardwalk that's very low profile small timber piles all done by hand. The idea is to have the public be able to immerse in the the the wetlands and right in there it's low and then it kind of rises up on the side. So it's a really nice spot that's a place of rest bit and a very great way to kind of see the wetlands more perspective. Most people don't because you be right in the middle of it. And then in addition uh there's two uh small bridges we want to place prefab that is very low impact um as well as the cemetery proposed to put signage interpretive signage at all corners four places to inform the public to walk through what happened there what the restoration was what they're seeing to kind of education as well um as I mentioned already that we a lot of invasive speech treatment is happening so that is going to be completed almost done there's also whole suite of native uh plantings that will happen uh once the rest the invasive species treatment is completed. We're pretty much done. So, we're ready to plant those species. So, native trees, native meadows, native forest, whatever the grouping area is appropriate for that site. That's the planting um pallet. uh kind of talk about the walking trails a section showing that um you know bridges the boardwalk is low by hand uh so very low impact as well. Um the only area where there's any kind of earth work not earth work but construction equipment that really has to come in is I'll

see there's a small area of stone wall they want to fix um So if you look at that image I don't have right here but essentially just this. So this stone wall needs a little bit of fixing. So this is the only spot where any kind of equipment yellow iron have to go in try to move the stones. Will it have to go through the wetland to get to that area? No. All the access can happen from Lakeside Drive. Okay.

So it can go right from here. So we can say completely out of the wetland. There won't be an impact from the and thenum. One of the questions that came up, there's a series of comments that the the consultant came, the engineer had about the project and one of the questions was, is there any mitigation that's going to be required as part of this project? So, we already have an army for so this project required an army corpore permit. So, that's been approved a nationwide permit. When we first submitted this project, uh the New York State did not regulate this particular wetland of its size. In January this year, they changed their jurisdiction a little bit, right? So we're in the process submitting a JD jurisdmination request asking whether or not this weapon is going to be required regulated and currently required that's in process. Um one of the comments was asking do we need mitigation for it? Uh the impacts the core doesn't require any kind of mitigation for impacts under a tenth of an acre. So that's what we make sure was low enough. All the impacts in the entire site is 007 acres. Uh typically if mitigation occurs um you can do different types of mitigation. You can do reestablishment. So you restore a wetland that was non-existent and bring it back at a 2 to1 ratio. Another way to do it is enhancement. So a degraded wetland which is not functioning properly which is this kind of wetland. The mitigation is 3 to1. So you have to restore three time or enhance three times that wetland. I bring this up just as an example. Right? So this particular in project the impacts are 0.07 while an enhancement mitigation requirements for this kind of project at the uh potentially at the state level would be 231 acres um we're enhancing 3 point almost 3.2 acres as part of the project. So the overall functional ecological uplift that this project's posing is way above and beyond the minimal impacts that would occur from the trails and the boardwalk. And that's where the impacts are coming

from. Technically, mulch, even just mulch or mulch is a fill uh of wetlands and then the boardwalk is a slight impact as well. Okay. So, okay. And this is this is in the center of the property and there's gates there. So, obviously after four people are not going there, right? Absolutely. The same same cemetery hours. There'd be no change in terms of access to what it is now. And it never and it never could become cemetery itself. Is that correct? It's I you know it's wetlands already so I don't I think there would be no ability to Are you asking if this area

correct even Yeah. And thank you for saying that but I I ask it only because you'd be surprised what people try to build on or not build or do things with. So, so I mean and I I see our CC chairman laughing. We've seen plenty of things before and we I would not be surprised if a cemetery did do that at some point which but I don't think you are going to. So, don't worry about that. I know it well.

I I I know it well. It's a you do a beautiful job maintaining the the landscape as well. So, okay. Anything else? Oh, there's a there was another question in the comments of what our timeline was. Yeah, I mean ideally the timeline would be to start doing the mul the trails uh in the spring uh winter spring uh do construction of the stone wall this spring planting spring fall. So we would like to do this next year. Yeah. Okay. And that's it. Okay. Um any questions or comments from board members?

I don't have a question about the wetland impact. Um, I have a question for the cemetery director. Um, this seems like a lot of uh work. And do people walk around the cemetery? Like I don't I'm Why are you doing this? I guess. Oh, yes. First of all, yes, it is a lot of work. Okay. So, I'm the CEO, president of KCO Cemetery. It is a lot of work. We've kind of put a lot of work into it already. We actually had goats there for the first three years. Um, you can rent goats actually and they eat the invasive species. So, we did that before we did the pesticides.

Um, we recently become a level two certified arburetum. So, we have a commitment to enhancing the natural nature and the aesthetic of the cemetery. We are open for visitors, not only lot owners, but also to the for the general public. We have a number of people from this area that come through the cemetery and walk particularly evenings. Um so it's it's a it's a nice place for that. We have um we have a 5K. I'll invite you next year if you'd like to run or come for start training. But yeah, so we we are trying to invite the public even more onto the cemetery grounds. This is part of that effort. And don't you also have the walking tours?

Yes. So we have in the spring we do walking tours. There's several different ones. There's um sort of a um public figures tour. There's also architectural tours because there's a lot of mausoleiums that are really fascinating structures on the grounds. And then we do tree tour tree tours as part of our um arburetum certification. We have to provide tours for that. We have a hundred different species of trees that we have listed on our on our maps. And so we're we are through that and we're actually making some efforts through social media to get more and more people on the grounds. I feel like we're kind of a hidden jewel um in this area and we want to invite people on the grounds more and a lot of owners have been supportive of that. I think they like it and it's a it's a it really is you mentioned it's a beautiful place. It's a nice place to go.

I've seen I've seen the goats on my own walking tours of the cemetery so and I they they were quite uh endearing. Yes. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you for that uh answer. I had no idea. Okay. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Okay. Anything else from board members? Okay, let the record show there's nothing else from board members. I know we have the CSC. Let me just do a couple first. Couple things here. Oh, Mr. Steven Cabell. Oh, I'm sorry. Steve, we'll get to you. Yeah, I never forget you. If I do, I It's not my intent. Chairman, board members. Um, do any of you have any questions for me about this?

No. What What's your thoughts on it? So, so I think the the biggest uh concern of mine is the DEC permit. I know you can do a GD consultant option. Hopefully, that would be a quicker I don't know when you submitted your uh your GD. It's it's in process right now. It's a Yeah. So, I know it takes a little while. Depends on which process you take with the with the DEC. It's a new process with them and things take a little bit longer. But that that would be my biggest concern with this project. I think most of the the other um the applicants answered most of the other questions I had. Um and I think that um maybe some conditions could be put on this if uh you know once the DEC permit and you can you can provide that at some point your thoughts that I would assume. Of course. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? I think that's unless you

so we can expect a letter from you with um recommended conditions of approval or it will be conveyed to Pat so that he could include it in any resolution. Most of those conditions are construction related like methods and means of how they would do the work I think. Is that fair? Exactly. I know I had some some questions about tree root systems and and protection there and just I know that the the wall is really the biggest where the most construction is happening and that wall has probably been there for I don't knowund years. Does anyone know maybe 50

25 years? Yeah. So that you know I don't know what is around that wall if there's any trees that are nearby. I just want to make sure that those are protected and then you know plant things making sure those go in and and in a certain method way and on schedule and um so I know they've been waiting a long time to to get to this point. So you know I think that um they've done a pretty good job on answering all the questions that I had. Yeah. And I know it's it's it's um it's a very thoughtprovoking application and um I appreciate the uh the opportunity to review it. So, uh,

Mr. Chairman, what we would typically do in a situation like this is a post installation monitoring. So, six months or a year after Kellen and the applicants would go out and make sure everything is operating the way it's supposed to.

Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Steven Cavy from the CAC conservation advisory committee. For those who don't know, Stephen Cavy, conservation advisory council chair. First of all, I want to say that this is cemetery town and uh it's a tremendous amenity that the town has all this open space and to see one of these properties turned into uh a way of uh creating and restoring wetlands and creating natural resource protection and enhancement I think is a really positive thing. So, uh, we stand we and I was wrong. It wasn't two years. It seemed like two years. It was six seasons is what it is because, uh, but in any case, uh, we just had a few notes. I did speak to Kellen. I didn't realize that was Kellen because we only spoke. We had haven't met. And, uh, I think the wetlands consultant did a very good job in, uh, going through the details that would be concerns raised by the CAC. We had a letter early on in this process that I'll send again just for review that had some key elements and some key points that we were concerned about, but they seem to be mostly addressed. But let me just summarize some very quick things here. One of the things I just want to be clear about is that when we draft this resolution that it's done in a way that doesn't that that prevents any future wetlands development from turning into some sort of a monetized amenity. So I, you know, I want to be clear that this is a a boardwalk that's designed for public free use and free access. And we don't want to create uh some sort of systemic system systematic process for turning wetlands into, for want of a better word, an amusement park or something like that. So this is a passive recreation use for the boardwalk. And and I think it's important that the resolution is drafted in in a fashion so that we're we prevent

any further any future development from going on in wetlands in a way that isn't carefully monitored and done in the fashion that this is being done and the open space and u and public access is part of that. So um and the other thing is um Kellen addressed this and I looked over some of the comments is there apparently is use of mechanical equipment being planned I believe at some point or another and when I re reviewed the notes and uh that is a bit of a concern. Um, Kell will address it, I'm sure, but there's best practices and our friends from the uh New York City D are here and I know that they do use mechanical equipment periodically in some of their wetlands buffer uh work and they have some best practices that prevent and eliminate any chance of pollution or uh or uh destruction. Um, the other quick thing I had was uh the material that's being used for the boardwalk. I just want to be clear that it's some sort of inert material that doesn't have any leeching into the wetlands. I wasn't clear about that. So, we can have a discussion about it and uh uh again, we want to make sure that this is completely neutral material that doesn't create any any contamination. I did have some concerns about pesticides. um pesticides were being used in order to manage the invasives. There's very little you can do about invasives without some use of pesticides, but there are different method methods and measures that can be done so that they're really minimized. And how they're going to be done and used in the future in order to um prevent the return of the invasives is something that we want to explore and understand more fully. Second, I just want to look at my notes here. Um that's uh pretty much it. The invasive management uh in the ongoing process is

one of the things that we are concerned about and how that's going to be done uh over the years and uh and how much pesticide use is going to be done or whether it's going to be done by hand. It's it's it's an issue. Invasives the reason they're called invasives is because they are strong invasives and they are very hard to manage. uh it's an ongoing process and there are a number of large preserves that uh have a real difficulty managing invasive. So this is a relatively smaller parcel. So I think it's it is manageable but we want to know how it's going to be done over the years.

I want to thank you and thank you for your your your work on this one. I know I see enthusiasm with your with your um participation on this one. So I'd like to see that as well.

Yeah. Well, you know, again, Mr. Chairman, I I want to underscore something and that's that we do have a tremendous amount of cemeteries. It's a tremendous amount of open space. Uh we've seen a number of applications come before uh the planning board and uh that have been reviewed by the CAC. um we've we've we've had to do some very strong uh comments on how these some of these applications are going forward and we've always encouraged the use of native plants in some of these landscaping schemes but it's I've never seen anything uh on this scale where we didn't even we didn't initiate it at all was initiated by the applicant and I think it's a very positive step. Okay.

Thank you. Thank you for coming out and all that you do. Okay, so we have this application. We heard from town staff we are pretty good to go. Yes. Next step would be schedule a public hearing on this particular. So okay. So there we go. That's the question then is are we going to schedule a public hearing for this or not? Fellow board members, we have a motion or not? I have a a motion to schedule the public hearing. Motion from Eileen. Second it. Second from Steve Vault. Hi, Jean. Hi, Steve. Hi, Alen. I

and I from me. Public hearing is scheduled. It'll be scheduled, I'm assuming, sometime in January, I'm assuming, at this point. Okay. Okay. So, next one up is another continuing application item.

Yes, sir. is 145 Bennock Place legalizing cut and fill grading of the construction of a concrete retaining wall in excess of 6 ft at rear of portion of property. Application steep slope SS25-03 location 145 Benn Walther New York section block lot numbers 1112-1-11 zone R10 owner Michael Stallone applicant and engineer Mr. Lukeman and Dio Engineering.

Excuse me. I'm not techsavvy. Looks like neither are we. Said just plug it in. It should come up. It started to come up. But back. Oh, it's plugged into the power, but I don't know if it's plugged into

into the uh TV remote. Thank you. Thank you for coming out tonight. This is your f your son's fault. Yes, it is. Here we go. Okay.

Hi, Mr. Chairman. I'm Pete Stallone. I'm here representing my son, Michael, who has to work, works five jobs um to keep up with things. Um we are here um hopefully working toward approval to construct the new concrete retaining wall. Yeah, we were granted the variance for the additional height. Um and we're at this point in the process. Um engineer did some new drawings um representing a 12-in poured concrete wall reinforced rebar. Um and that's what we're here for. Yeah. And you you've been through a your son has been through a lot. Yeah.

Because he bought the house and then there was a problem with the wall and then it's a long it's a long haul. Different things were going on. We had a little tech technical problem. That's okay. So, okay. So, I think let me just ask the the board if you have any questions or comments on this one. You had a public hearing in front of the zoning board, correct? Yes. Do you know if any of the neighbors came out? I'm sorry. Did any of the neighbors come out present? No. No. Okay. No. Um I was just wondering about that downhill neighbor. You know, I was just concerned about the downhill neighbor looking at the high concrete wall if they had any problems. There is no downhill neighbor. Oh, there is no down. Oh, that's right down to the road to 98 the curve. Y

Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't think anyone will ever be there. Okay. Okay. Um, any other questions or comments from board members? Let the record shows no additional questions or comments from board members? I've seen the correspondence from town staff. We are also in good shape for this one. Yes. Um if it if it is the pleasure of the board, we can talk about um scheduling a public hearing. Um what is the the thought from the board? Do we schedule a public hearing for this or not? Yeah, I make a motion that we schedule a public hearing for this. Motion from Eileen. Second. Second from Jean. Walt. I. Jean. Hi. Steve. I. Eileen.

I. And an I from me. Tell your son you did a great job. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Wonderful. And tell him the techn everything. We won't talk about the the technical snafu at all. We won't tell your son. Okay. Take your time. Don't forget your cord. No, I think that's ours.

Oh, that's ours. Okay. Then then leave the cord. Okay. Next up is a brand new application. They are we they've been here for different shapes, forms or other applications, but they are back again for D KC contract number three zero Westlake Drive, Kentico. Specific work at the Kentico campus as part of contract 3. I'm not going to read all this. KC building KEC buildings include construction of final post construction storm water management practices, modifications to existing UC shaft. And there's a whole bunch of stuff there. There's fences and different things going on here. Application site plan PSP25-11. Steep slopes SS25-16. Wetlands number W25-06. Location Westlake Drive valid campus Kensico campus section block lot numbers 117.11-3-1 zone R40 owner and applicant and New York City DP engine architect O Arup and partners Hazen and Sour Sawyer Good evening. I'm Justin Revvelino with D's Bureau of Engineering Design and Construction. And yes, we're here tonight for the contract three kick work for our Kenzy's 3 contract known as KDC buildings. Our site plan application for that.

So, as we normally do uh with these presentations, we'll go through a project overview. I'll run through that quickly and then we'll focus on uh what entails the KC buildings contract over at Kensico. Uh so the KC tunnel program is essentially building a connection from Kenso reservoir to our Catell ultraviolet facility over at East View. Uh we have two locations where that work is ongoing. The KCO campus gets into the reservoir right down the road here and East View campus which houses our Catell ultraviolet disinfection facility. It's a multi-year effort with all the contracts involved spanning about 10 years and this one will be the one that wraps it all up. So why are we doing it is there's an operational need. Uh when we put the CAD dell online back in 2012 uh to comply with uh the EPA's long term to enhance surface water treatment rule safe water drinking act uh we lost the ability or the pressure rather to run water through the cat aqueduct uh to get to the cat delv. So what we're doing is essentially restoring that second conduit along with the Delaware uh to connect the two locations. Right now we have limited ability to shut down the Delaware. So it's certainly important to have a KC tunnel online. Uh we are also part of a Hillview consent decree and judgment which means uh it's a federal decree. We have another con uh project the Hillview cover uh which is also part of this consent decree. So these projects go hand in hand and uh it essentially allows us to feed Hillview reservoir with the KEC tunnel and ensure that while that construction's going on uh that reservoir has the proper water

and just for those 90% of the room knows the hilly decree descent but basically hilly decree descent is yakas reservoir is going to be covered. Yep. And the water from the halo is going to come down there and it's going to go through the ultraviolet whatever you guys do. Yes. treat it and it's going to go on the the pipes. I'm speaking layman's term down to Hilfy Cemetery Knockers which will then be covered. You know better than us. No no no I don't. Um yes. So yes to summarize and we do have various milestones that we are fed federally required to hit uh through all of the life cycle of this project sign construction. Yeah. And commissioning.

Right. So, uh, just rehashing some of the goals and benefits. Uh, we do need those two connections. Historically, we've always had to. Uh, the Delaware is quite old. It's 85 plus years old at this point. So, it would allow us down the line to perform some maintenance that would inevitably happen. Uh, we have a connection that we are installing. We started we will be starting to install it under a contract that's currently underway but under this contract we'll finish a town water line over at Kentico to provide uh water to the town pleasant and uh this tunnel is size larger to meet future demands. You know when we make our projections and see that we need more water to the city this will allow us to do that. And this is just another slide that kind of shows the the surrounding area that we've considered in outreach and design and construction. Now, both campuses and the tunnel itself. Uh so this is our sequence of site plan applications. As mentioned, we've been here a few times before. This one is the one that's uh boxed out in purple. Uh we actually did go slightly out of sequence. We had our shoreline stabilization uh site plan application presented to you this past summer. That was the fourth one. So, we're jumping back to three here. Uh this one is our final one on this slide and why we're here today to talk about the Kenzie 3 contract on its Kico campus. Uh this was our schedule that we uh set for ourselves for all of the contracts. Uh admittedly, we did start late on a couple uh but we are certainly hoping uh not only to catch up on those but to hit our dates uh for Kenzy's three as well which would be at the very end of 2026

to start construction there you do see two bars on this one on your schedule uh Gant chart that simply is just breaking the project up into the construction phase that's the longer bar there and the uh shorter one in the brighter blue that is our startup and commissioning So essentially, as I mentioned, this contract wraps everything up. It also includes the actual startup of KEC and getting it online, right? And so, uh, you know, of course, our site plan approval and application would cover, uh, our steep slopes, our wetlands, and the swift that is associated with this work, right? And just to uh kind of go over some of the scope in this particular contract on the Kensico side, uh we're doing some UEC modifications. I know we have a lot of acronyms. That one stands for our upper effluent chamber. It's right on the reservoir and it's essentially our intake uh from the reservoir to bring water into the tunnel. So we'll do modifications to that. It's a very old structure. It was sized for uh flow long ago. uh will now be doing some modifications to uh increase the capacity that it could take so it could feed the KC tunnel. Uh we have what's called a UEC shaft or upper effluent chamber shaft that's simply done to construct the connection tunnels that will be connecting the UEC to our screen chamber. Uh we'll do a new police booth over at Kenso campus which if you're familiar with our East View campus, we have a checkpoint to get in uh with our security team. Uh it'll look very much similar to that. So we'll have a checkpoint to get into Kensico campus and the police booth will house our police force and the new KEC screen chamber will be on site. Uh we'll go over that. We have some renderings. Uh that's our new uh building that will screen reservoir water coming in of all

debris and as it enters the KC tunnel it will uh introduce chlorine and fluoride to that water as well. Uh that covers the fourth bullet. Our inind updates to existing chemical facilities. Simply we are running uh some lines from our existing chlorine and fluoride facilities to uh the screen chamber location to uh be able to add both of those uh chemicals to to the water. Yeah.

And so we we'll have some site work around the upper affluent chamber. As mentioned, we'll make that connection uh to the town of Mount Pleasant. We have a few trees to remove. I'll I'll go over that in a minute. And uh we'll complete the connection tunnels. So most of our tunnel work will occur under uh contract 2 that we've went over here. Uh but we will have some uh completion work for those tunnels over at Kico the connection and then uh final landscaping for the Kico site. So it's final conditions and the startup and commissioning for the KC tunnel itself. And so this slide highlights uh where we are covering uh the it's very tiny I'm sorry but the very top of the screen there right on the reservoir that's the upper effluent chamber the building in the middle that's the new screen chamber and that line running out of it will be the new town of Mount Pleasant connection to a vault over there uh that will feed uh the town and the oval in the center is essentially our new uh police checkpoint which includes a police booth entrance, exit, and we even have a vehicle scanner there to scan any larger vehicles coming in. But, um, I like to mention that even though we're highlighting these particular areas, it really is the whole area because we will be, uh, you know, turning this into its final campus. Most most of you are familiar with where that police booth is. That's existing Westlake Drive. We're currently building relocated Westlake Drive, which is that roadway off to the left. Once that is opened and accepted by the town of Mount Pleasant, accepted by the town of Mount Pleasant and opened, uh we'll close existing Westlake Drive, uh it'll be a construction entrance while we build uh the police booth and the checkpoint and that'll eventually be our main entrance to the D campus.

Okay.

And so these are the connection tunnels uh that I mentioned. In the orange is our UC connection tunnel. It will be a little bit larger. Uh we are trying to utilize the existing tunnel that's there. Right now the UC has one tunnel running from that building to uh an existing older building that we have there that connects to the cat aqueduct. We'll expand that tunnel, run it into the screen chamber. Screen chamber will screen the water and we'll have what we call the dyra return tunnel which is that uh peach light orange uh smaller tunnel coming out of the screen chamber. And what that'll allow us to do is in the event of emergency or or any type of need to bypass the KDC tunnel, we can still run water through the screen chamber and back into our old Kadak. So, it gives us some flexibility there. All right. uh blasting under this contract. While not as much as uh the other contract, we will need to blast for the two tunnels, the two connection tunnels. Uh blasting would be controlled and we'll meet town code as is always the case for us. Uh we'll have pre-blast surveys, notifications. Uh blast monitoring of course. Um we anticipate up to three blasts per day, but it's highly unlikely. Uh so we'll just say that in a best case scenario that could happen but it's more like one or two and uh town and adjacent owners will be notified ahead of time. We certainly work with the town on outreach and making sure we notify anyone who may be impacted. Uh blasting would be performed with the appropriate methods to mitigate as much of the noise as possible. So glass mats doors and that could reduce noise anywhere between 40 and 90%.

And so this is just a couple of renderings we wanted to show. Um especially if you're the public, what you would see. This is on Columbus Avenue. You're looking at what is now existing West Lake Drive, what will be eventually our uh police booth and DP checkpoint. We called out two buildings here uh that are important to note for our contract. the D police booth. As we've mentioned, that will be uh the first building you will essentially see. It's in the foreground. It's the closest to Columbus Avenue. And then in the background there, uh probably the furthest building back from Columbus Avenue, not counting the UC, uh will be the screen chamber. Uh it's essentially going to be between two existing structures that we have there. It's going to be our fence regional headquarters. And once our existing lower chamber, they're there. Uh screen chamber will be in the middle just pushed slightly further back.

Hey, why on this slide? Yeah. Will there be a gate police or further closer to Columbus? There'll be an opening similar to that, but as you start to turn in, we have those vehicle arresting device. The VADS for what they stand for, but they'll be in. So my concern is people will still think of that as West Lake Drive and make the turn inadvertently before they realize they're spot turn. Yeah. Is there enough room for them to make that?

There will be a turnaround. Um so I I like to compare this to our Eastview campus where it is pretty open. You can turn in but accidentally and then they would just turn you around. Um yeah. So it'll be set up similar to that. And then for our upper F1 chamber site work, the structure that's right on the building there, uh the access road to that UEC will be widened to what it currently stands. Uh we do have a wall towards the back there, right near the roadway, that 19t high wall that we're we point out. Uh a new duck bank to the electrical building. Uh we've talked about this in past applications. We currently have constructed. It's you can see it now the electrical building on Kensico campus. It's going to feed all of our facilities. Uh so that will include the UEC as well. And then uh work will require wetland per se slope and flood plane development because we right we are right on the reservoir. Uh tree removal. So uh this is just basically breaking out the total number that we've presented in the past in terms of trees that are to be removed over at Tensico. Uh for this contract in particular, there's 65 trees to be removed mainly for our utility work along the roadways. So we've highlighted the two areas uh where tree removal will occur. One is uh up close to where existing Westlake Drive bends. There'll be 33 trees there. And uh towards the bottom on West West Lake Drive, we have uh 32. In terms of uh construction waste water, essentially any water that is coming in while we do construction, uh that's really from uh groundwater infiltration from connection tunnels, KEC shaft 1C, which will have been constructed by then, but we still may need to do some

dewatering from there. And uh the excavation of the KC screen chamber as we build that screen chamber. Uh we're certainly going to want to keep that dry. Uh wastewater treatment systems, uh they will be there. This contract will use them. Uh it will remove solids prior to discharge and all of that treated water will be pumped to an existing uh storm water manhole with the discharge of Palpaul to Clove Brook. We do need to uh abide by the Speedies permit in DEC. So of course we're going to be monitoring that very closely and making sure we meet all of those parameters that DEC requires us to meet before discharging. And uh just highlighting the town of Mount Pleasant water connection. I imagine some would be interested. Uh we're connecting a new 24inch raw water pipe upstream of the existing town of Mount Pleasant meter vault that is running straight from our screen chamber. And uh benefit is a new connection for use by the town of Mount Pleasant. So

So what is that? That's that's interesting because that's one topic I keep has how does Mount Pleasant benefit? This is the first time I've heard some potential benefit. What does that actually do for Mount Pleasant? It includes you in our new connection as well. So, the city of New York is getting a new uh run from Kenso Reservoir to ensure enhancement in the water supply system. Town of Mount Pleasant is included in that as well. So, okay, our new screen chamber that's bringing in all this water, screening, all of that will be bringing that raw water straight to town.

Okay. And those are the final conditions. Similar to uh what we showed a few slides ago and highlighted some of those structures, but uh just noting that there will be some new ponds on campus. All of the plantings will be in this contract, various meadow mixes, trees, uh especially along the what's now the Delaware and Castill Air Raiders and uh reforestation along those uh areas as well. So just to uh kind of highlight the paving landscape aspect of this uh we'll mill and repave all roadways within Kensler campus. Uh but the final landscaping we have areas uh for tree planting that have been maximized. Uh we consider facility operations security and utility setbacks requirements. Of course we talked with our security personnel. They want to make sure they have a line of sight of all our buildings. working around that. We've, you know, set up areas that are, you know, good for plantings and bed and tree locations to that mode turf will be kept to a minimum. It's really just adjacent to the perimeter fence will really let uh vegetation grow and the native perennial mixes are used for all other areas. Uh we've had a lot of input from our forestry division and our natural resource division. So we've selected carefully what plantings and vegetation will be used for this and those detention ponds are provided with the mix of upland species um variances. So the screen chamber uh we understand there's a maximum height of 35 ft within the town. The proposed height of this screen chamber is 70 ft at its peak uh but 67 foot on average if we include the main building. Um, best way to describe the screen chamber is it has a main section to it flanked by two smaller annexes, what we like to call

them. So, if you include those annexes, uh, it's 56 ft on average. And for comparison, if you're familiar with our shaft 18 facility, which is right on the reservoir there, pretty close to Columbus Avenue. Uh, that's about 62 1/2 ft high, and that's the intake uh, for the existing Delaware. So, pretty comparable to that. and the permanent perimeter fence for this Kensko campus. Uh we work closely with our security team and uh even though we understand there's a maximum height of 6 feet, uh we are proposing to install an 8 foot uh fence on 6 in concrete apron. Uh we know there's some wildlife that passes through this campus. So we do have uh transit gaps which are 9 in by 6 in high and they are every 100 ft along that side. So th those are some of the specific questions from Pat. So it was good you brought it up tonight, but can you just document that and respond to Pat with those

and that would just dot that eye and cross that T. I think with that ran through just you will also need various retaining walls there. That's one thing we were looking at as well, that retaining wall there, Pat. And that's the one thing that perhaps we can avoid that if you separate them, you know, segments instead of a single wall. So that's something. That's good advice. We'll certainly look into that. Thank you.

Okay. Yeah, there Pat Pat's correspondents have those questions detailed on them. So because we'll have to get those answered, you know, as we prepare for the public hearing if it does happen. far away from the mic. I realized um the big thing obviously is going to be noise. You've heard that before. So, we need to be prepared for those questions. I'm sure you know that. Um and obviously I think the other thing we need to prepare for is the mountain we calling it. The question comes up every time when the public comes here. What are we going to do with that? So, we've reviewed it. We've had conversations on it. I know what the long-term plan is for that, but that the scuttlebutt is it's it's unsightly and I think you've heard that before. So, I just ask you as you prepare for public hearing, I know it doesn't have anything to do with this particular work, but it's on the site so it'll come up. Um, anything else from board members?

I was just wondering, have you started um tunnel excavation yet? The contract has started. the actual excavation work for the tunnel and shafts itself has not started. So, um we expect here at the Kenso side to begin the shaft excavation hopefully sometime in February and that's when we'll start to sink the shafts. Uh East View won't be long after that. maybe another few months of late spring, early summer and then once we get those shafts excavated, we can bring in tunnel boring machine and start the uh the tunnel excavation itself.

Um also your environmental assessment form identifies your hours of operation from I think 7:30 a.m. to 11:30 p.m. and that you know Yeah. So, um, that's not consistent with the regulations of the town for hours of construction. Has there been a waiver for that? And will the neighbors hear it? Like, I'm I'm asking about the tunnels because I'm thinking, is that going to be loud? And will they be hearing that at 11:00 at night?

Right. So, we've worked closely with the town and town building inspector to go over just that and and discuss, you know, what would be acceptable in terms of those hours of operation. We're setting noise monitoring around the entire perimeter of Kico campus. We're making sure that we're looking at those numbers closely. And when we begin the excavation work, that's when the town will have representation to be there on site to see just how uh how much noise we generate. Yeah. I have no idea if it's a lot of lot of noise. When you're 450 ft down, I don't imagine there'll be a lot of noise, but

yes, the surface Yeah, and we're going to uh we already are looking at ways to uh mitigate the noise at the surface even further than what we have in the contract. So any additional barriers that we could possibly put up, anything else that can dampen the noise even a little bit uh we certainly are interested in doing. So uh we're going to do that in the early stages. Of course, it's going to be like a let's let's see if this works, if we need to add anything additional, and kind of work our way on from there. So, uh, you're right. You know, it's going to be the surface where, uh, we need to look at the most and as we get deeper and deeper, it'll be less of a concern. Okay.

And I think there's an extensive protocol for equipment on the site and truck valves and all of that stuff that's already in place. It relates to different types of equipment that's being used on the property. Also, the building's already on top of that, but this is going to be above and beyond. Yeah. In addition to the drilling, I'm thinking, you know, backing up, beeping, beeping, you know, when I'm trying to go to sleep or Yeah. Yeah. And we I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, I'm our words cross. Continue. No, I was just going to say, uh, we also care very much about noise complaints. We're keeping a noise log ourselves, uh, which have minimal complaints to date, but of course, we want to make sure that we're tracking all those and we've addressed them. And if there's anything occurring, we want to know about that.

The unique aspects to this, obviously, the drilling in the tunnel, that's unusual, but conveyor at East once the muck comes up and goes onto the conveyor we don't have any precedent for understanding those impacts so there's a lot of ongoing figuring it out to those things but truck backing up those are the things we understand and have already addressed the course of work that's already done okay so I don't I don't really I'm not close enough to the conversation or the site so the the mountain that's already there that's that's what that's where did that come from the other mountain. Feather Mountain, right? No. Well, the the mountains at Kensico, you're referring to the mountain, all the all the soil that's here now, the stock,

that's from that's from our excavation of the screen chamber that we've already started and some of the other uh grading that we're doing around the site. So, this additional excavation we're doing, where does all that soil going? So, the excavation work at East uh we are taking that offsite that is going to approved locations for beneficial to use for the most part, but um we're working out with the contractor. So the existing mountain at East View that's been I think about 2/3 removed. We're going to remove the rest of that under the contract that's currently ongoing now. And then the muck conveyor that Pat was mentioning. Uh that will at Eastfield

at Eastfield that will leave about 100,000 cubic yards of muck at any time. Muck is anything excavated from the tunnel. Doesn't mean anything or anything like that. It's usually rock and and broken up soil. Um that constantly gets trucked out. So it it'll never exceed or I think we don't have a contract just what you're remembering is when East View was done all that the mountain at East was at that time supposed to fill in the area. That plan sort of changed over the years and that's what we've been seeing you know the modifications to the plan. So you may be remembering. Yeah. No, I just want to make sure that mount's not getting bigger. Yeah.

No, we actually need that area for staging for for the work we're doing now. So, okay. There's a benefit to us getting that out of there and getting our contractor set up there. Okay. They're currently doing Okay. Thank you. And if you remember, Jim, I think when they were last before us, there was some comments about, you know, there were vehicles and trucks on top of that hill and it made it even more visibly offensive. You raised that concern, they went away. I'll say the very cooperative issues as they arising all the time. So, it's it's the kind of thing we and the both have to stay on top of every day.

Yeah. And these are the common questions I think we're going to get. And even though that's not really connected 100% to the specific work we're doing for this, your your D. So, it's going to come to you. So, as you know, so okay. Uh any other questions or comments from board members?

I did read about the final grading. I'd like to see, you know, what levels, how close is it going back to what it was as far as final grade and fencing, visibility, transparency, everything else, or is this going to be high security for for the Kentico campus? It's going to be high security. Yes. So, the the fencing and the perimeter that we're putting around it um is going to be to keep out non personnel. So similar to East View, it's it's why we're building a relocated Westlake Drive so that the public still has that roadway and then that existing Westlake Drive will then be closed off and used for DP campus. So anything within there, you would need clearance to get past that police booth and go inside. Um and yes, so the renderings that we showed those those airators that are now filled in, that's where the plantings are going to be. Uh the various mixes and and the reforestation that we're doing there. So, um, you know, they'll they'll more or less look like that. Uh, I think we've shown some other renderings in the past from ground level, but, um,

I mean, previous it was a fairly transparent fence. It didn't, you know, look like a prison, right? This is really right in the center of town. You pass through this thing. It's high visibility. Yes. So, I think people are going to want to see it go back to as close as existing. and and you know our goal is is certainly to to bring back that uh that forestation look and and when I talked with our forestry group you know the reason we selected a lot of these vegetation mixes too is to bring back the wildlife that was there as well. So we're looking to do that along with what we're proposing here you get a picture of what the future fence will look like in that bottom in the landscaping.

Yeah. So that will be and then there'll be landscaping behind that. So it's not it's not like it will look today with that black barrier there. It'll be more open. That's what I was wondering too. Yeah. How much how much of it is going to be No doubt. Hi my name is Arie Barth. I work for D Bureau of Engineering Design Construction. Just want to add I mean the it is going to be it's not we're not returning to the original elevation. So we will have the as they are the mounds now but we are going to reduce and during this the current project and other projects we are reducing the the uh slope of the mounds but there will be vegetation on it and planting so it won't look as

kept landfill. Yes, exactly. So it'll the goal is to you know kind of have it you know the site landscaped so it looks like a landscaped area. How far off is it until it starts to look like this? Is this years away? Yeah, years away. Yeah, we're we're in the process. I mean, it's going to be done at the end of this contract, but that means, you know, we have to finish the tunnel, the screen chamber, all this work that we talked about. Then the final thing is to docaping, but we are the last thing in like the 10year plan really. Yeah, pretty much. I understand.

So, you guys mentioned needing a variance for the building height. when you anticipate getting these varants so you stay on schedule for fourth quarter 2026. Yeah, I think the goal is um you know as soon as we can. So we went to the zoning board for the building over at East View East Connection Chamber uh last month and uh we received the variance for that. Uh so yes, the next step is now to go for the screen chamber and uh the fencing if we have to uh we'll go for the wall as well. And you'll make the referral. So it's kind of up to you. Okay.

One other question. Do you get federal funding for this work from EPA or they get sued by the federal government? Are they are they giving

Don't do the work. We're going to get we're going to get fined. But uh we get state revolving fund monies. So that's really uh you know you know it's mostly city funded but we do get state revolving funds that a lot of uh you know m municipalities and states get for drinking water projects. the EPA they they don't have like a construction grants program that maybe contributes 75% or some percentage to the constructions of these consent decree projects. Uh, no. I mean, the city used to have, you know, when we built all our wastewater plants, we used, we were able to build them all up, you know, you know, many, many years ago because we got all that

funding, but no, now we don't get it. We're very much self-funded. That's why, you know, we're working on our budgets all the time. So, unfortunately, it would be great if we did. If they enacted those programs, it would help. But, no, we don't get it. Like the I know transportation, you hear that all in the news. They get all kinds of funding. We really don't. But at the same time, sometimes that funding is in jeopardy um federal funding. Correct. Right. Depending on which way the wind is blowing. Correct. So we're not subject to that in some ways because we selfunded. But

you know it's you know we're trying to balance because there are a lot of needs within both the drinking water part, waste water part, storm water. So the city is trying to to manage all those needs. Okay. Anything else? So, I know Pat had a couple questions or clarifications he needs. I think we need those clarified by the time the public hearing occurs. Yep. Which I'm sure you'll do. I think Dave might have comments on, right? And at that point when those answers when those issues are addressed, you can schedule the public hearing. You can consider the referral to Zoom. Yep. Okay. That's it for tonight then. Thank you for coming out.

Thank you. We're good to go.

I'll make a motion to close. Motion from Jane. Second. Got fast words over here. Second from Marlene. Walter. Hi. Jane. Steve. Hi. I