Board of Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Good evening and welcome to the Mount Juliet Board of Commissioners. Today is April 27th and I'll call this meeting to order. We do have a quorum present uh pursuant to city code 62210 and we'll proceed with the conducting of the business of the city. Our first item on our agenda tonight is to set our agenda tonight. Commissioner Mle, you're recognized. I need to pull 8B. It's not ready to be voted on. All right. Any objections to the removal of 8B?

Not hearing any, we will remove 8B from consideration, Commissioner Giles, sponsor the resolutions, if I may. Okay. What would you like to co-sponsor? How about 8G8H and 8 I?

Is there any objections to adding the co-sponsor? Hearing none, we'll list you as a as a sponsor on those three items. I'd like to move that we move 8 A C D FG H all to consent. It's like a bad alphabet, isn't it? 8 A, C, D, F, G, and H. I didn't know E was on. I didn't really realize that that was on. Was E on consent? No. So, it's not going to be on consent.

Not unless somebody wants to move it there. Okay. I I I skipped that one. Okay. I I I put E. I thought you said E. I skipped E and I. And of course, B was pulled if that makes it easier.

Okay. Any concerns? All right. Then the agenda unless there's any more changes the agenda is adopted with these changes. So just to summarize we pulled 8B A C D FG will all be read as consent and we will read um E and I separately. Yes ma'am. next meeting since there's no indefinitely. Can I explain? Um, well, we just pulled it from the agenda, so we haven't taken any action on it. Can I just explain?

Yeah. Or should I put a date on it? Well, if we want to put a date on it, do we need to hear to motion to hear it and then just set it at that point with board action? It's probably just good for the city reporter if there's a date so she know. If there's no objection, then give us a date. Well, that kind of depends on the meetings that are pending. Uh that's hard to quantify.

It is. And we have one meeting in May, two in June. I know uh public works wants to get it taken care of, but Winfield wants the connection, but they don't want the maintenance, right? So, they can't release the uh right away without them signing. And so far, they've not signed.

Well, how about we we do this? we just defer it, you'll say two months and then then if you need more time, we can bring it back or we can ask for more time then. That'll give um Miss Amlin a target to track against. All right. Well, what about uh two months would be one, two, June 22nd. Any objection to hearing this again at June 22nd? All right. I'm seeing no objection on that. You've got direction.

Next item on our agenda is the invocation and pledge of allegiance. And call on Mr. Martin. Sir, if you would lead us into the invocation and pledge. Gracious God, we come before you with humble hearts, recognizing that our purpose here is to serve others. Help us to approach this meeting with a spirit of humility and a desire to serve the greater good. Guide us in our service and bless our efforts. Jesus Christ's name we pray. Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America for all. Thank you, Mr. Martin. The next item we have on our agenda is the approval of the minutes from our April 13th meeting. Have a motion. Motion and second. Any changes or comments? All right. Hearing none, we'll adopt the minutes by consent. Hearing no objections. We'll move forward. The next item is citizen comments. If you have any comments for the board of commissioners, I'd invite you to come forward to give your name and address for the record and you'll be recognized for three minutes.

Howdy y'all. Hello.

My name is Jessica Nem Scales and I live at 12425 Lebanon Road here in Mount Juliet. You know, there's something special about a town like ours. It's not just the roads we drive or the schools our kids attend. It's the people, our citizens of Mount Juliet. It's the way we show up for one another, the way we honor our past, and the way we come together to celebrate what it means to be American. This year, I want to invite each and every citizen of Mount Juliet, more than 40,000 proud, to gather as one community. On Memorial Day, we'll come together at 7:35 North Mount Juliet Road, for a night of remembrance and gratitude. Gates open at 7 and as the sun sets, we'll lift our eyes to the sky for a drone show set to music broadcast on a local radio station. But before the lights begin, we'll take time to honor the reason for the day. Representatives from every branch of the United States military will be there along with the Tyler Kates American Legion Foundation offering a place for our veterans to gather, share stories, and be recognized for the sacrifices they've made. Because Memorial Day is not just a date on the calendar. It's a promise that we will never forget. Then just a few weeks later, we'll meet in the same spot under the summer skies for our Fourth of July fireworks show. Another chance to celebrate freedom family and the blessings we share in this great nation. We'll have some food trucks, face painting, and bounce houses for the kids and other fun family offerings. Gates open at 7:00 and fireworks like the sky at 9:00. Now, I'll tell you this from the heart. We offered to lend our hands and our hometown talent to the city's official show. We've got licensed and skilled pyrochnics here in Mount Juliet who live in this town. Folks who care deeply about this community. But the decision was made to go another direction instead of shopping local. That's all right because what we're building here isn't is something different. This is the citizen show. This is where the people of Mount Juliet

come together where there's plenty of room for everyone. Parking will be available at Mount Juliet Christian Academy, First Baptist Mount Juliet, West Wilson Middle School, Stoner Creek Elementary, and other nearby local businesses. No stress, no squeezing in, just neighbors gathering side by side. So, I invite you, bring your lawn chairs, bring your kids, bring your stories, and your pride for this country. Let's fill the air with laughter, gratitude, and make the kind of memories that last a lifetime. Because at the end of the day, it's not about who puts on the biggest show. It's about who shows up. I believe in this town. I believe in the people here. Let's celebrate together. Mount Juliet. Thank you.

Yeah. You want a question? Memorial Day drone show. Will there be fire? Memorial Day only the drone only drones on Memorial Day and only fireworks on Fourth of July. All right. Any other questions? Well, thank you for your comments. Thank you for listening. Name and address, please.

My name is My name is Clay Scales. I live at 12425 Lebanon Road in Mount Juliet, Tennessee. I married into the Needm Clan in 2017, and since then, I've had the pleasure of watching our once little town grow and flourish. In that time, I have been involved in the Citizens of Mount Juliet fireworks display presented by Nem's nursery. This fireworks display is the largest in Wilson County and will continue to be as long as I have anything to do with it. I want to extend an invitation to each and every one of you that sit here in front of me tonight. The city of Mount Juliet, the parks department, the city beautiful. Join us in putting on the citizens of Mount Juliet fireworks display. For far too long, our city has been divided by having to choose from two fireworks displays. The people that were involved in this decision no longer work for the city. Thank goodness. It is fact that the fireworks display that the city is involved with at this point in time only caters to a very select few number of people. Not to mention the two-lane road that is the only access route in and out of this area bottlenecks at the drop of a hat. It is hard for emergency personnel to navigate these small roads and to respond to any call. Heaven forbid anything bad is to happen. It's hard to find parking and that leads people to park their vehicles along the side of the road and in people's driveways and on other personal properties where they do not belong. This includes parking on grave sites. There is a solution. I call on the city of Mount Juliet to join me, my beautiful wife Jessica Nem Scales, the great people at Needam's nursery, and most

importantly of all, the amazing citizens of our great town in celebrating the Fourth of July like no one has ever seen before. Every year, we strive to make it bigger and better than the last. And the opening shot goes up in the air at 9:00 p.m. on July 4th, 2026. At this time, we are accepting sponsorships for the Memorial Day drone show and the Fourth of July Citizens of Mount Juliet fireworks blast. If you or your business would like to be a part of this opportunity, you can contact uh you can come to Needams and chat with us while we walk you around our beautiful nursery or you can email us at mulchpit1gmail.com. And make sure to be sure to shop local, Mount Julia. Thank you.

Thank you. Any other comments? I just want to say God bless all of y'all. God bless America. Thank Thank you. And in the words of the late great Charlie Daniels, "Ain't it great to be alive and live in Mount Juliet, Tennessee?" All right. Thank Thank you for your comments.

Yes, sir. Name and address for the record, please. Good evening. Paul Garrettson, 100 Katapa Drive in Mount Juliet. I was coming tonight because I was curious about how far in advance we get notice as citizens. I'm still new to Mount Juliet, only been here for a few months now. So, how far in advance we'll have public notice about anything that's going to happen along Pleasant Grove Road or continued on. So, there's a PUD work that's happening. I'm particularly interested in all the work that's going to be done on the north side of the road for Pleasant Grove Road. Does anybody, Mr. Martin, do you know the the time frames on that? I don't know if there's legal requirements on the on the work notice on this. Yeah. And for clarification, you're talking about for the private developments are on

Well, I'm not particularly concerned about the putt itself, although I think it's a monstrosity, but and it's going to, you know, 400 people are going to be pulling out at night and flashing their lights right in my bedroom window, but that's neither here nor there. I'll put a privacy trees and it'll be whatever. I'm really concerned about the north side of the road. A lot of my neighbors along Pleasant Grove Road have been talking with a lot of them. A lot of confusion. A lot of us think that there's different things happening. No one has any actual real idea what the plan is along Pleasant Grove Road. So, I don't think that there's been a really good job of communicating all of that. Now, of course, people, particularly lay people outside of government, don't always do a great job of understanding everything that's happening. So, just anything that could be done to help those of us that live on the road that are going to be impacted by this work, I think would be helpful. Um because even myself, like I think I'm been pretty active in the couple months that I've been here. Even I'm confused because I hear different things depending on who I talk to. Um so yeah,

Mayor, with the blessing of the BC, if I could step out into the hallway, I can reach out to the developer and probably get him a quick answer on that for a timeline. Is it just the timeline on the exact putt across the street? Are you just are you are you talking about in general?

The putt is whatever. It's it is what it is. I am curious about when they're going to continue on and finish up what they're doing with the tree line. They started that work about I'd say probably four weeks ago, five weeks ago I remember because I heard a loud noise from my home office like what's happening and I go outside and I saw that being torn down and already I get the wonderful uh blessing of hearing the interstate now. So I am I would like that to progress. I think that'd be great. Um but I'm really the put is not my concern. I am concerned about my land about the taking of my land that's going to need to take place. And so whenever I know there's a plan in place, it needs to be approved. You all have to be involved with that. What I am trying to explain to you though too is the people on my road are all confused. My neighbor, Mr. Pat, he has no clue what's happening because he's heard a few different things and he has he's under a current impression that none of his land will be needed for what's happening along Pleasant Grove Road. Go two houses down further down the road towards Central Pike and there's a huge uproar because they know that some things are going to happen. You go a few more houses down, nothing's going to happen. So, people are just confused and I'm, you know, trying to I'm trying to be a good neighbor and be um very in the know. And again, my land is going to be taken at some point. So, I'm curious.

Well, there would definitely be public workshops on any plans are going to be put together. It will be. I think he's talking about the phase two and that they have been clearing trees. So, if I can step out for a minute, mayor, I'll give you a good answer on that. That way, we I don't know. I don't know the exact legal requirements on when that notice has to go out.

Okay, that's uh it's fine. There's So, there's that. Um that's what I'm obviously concerned about. I'd also like to just encourage you all as you this process obviously is going on years. I've been told don't worry about it. It's 2031 before any of that's going to happen. Well, I just spent $700,000 on a house. I would prefer to not lose half my front yard even if it is in five or six years from now. So, I would just like and encourage you all because assume presuming you all continue to keep your seats and you continue to keep getting voted on. If you're going to vote to take away my land, I would love to have you at my house. I would love for you to sit on my front porch with me, drink some sweet tea, and look what's going to happen. I would like you to look at the trees that you're going to have to destroy, the gas lines you're going to have to move, all that is quite interesting. And I'll leave you with this because I am not one for being long-winded. I enjoy when my preacher wraps up at the 20-minute mark. It's pretty nice. Um, in the city ordinances, as they are now, and this is across the country, this is a consistent thing. This is not out of the ordinary, but citizens that live in a city and their property abuts a propert butts a public sidewalk. They are responsible for maintaining that public sidewalk. Makes perfect sense. When we lived in Memphis, I did it every winter. Snow and ice. You go out there, you shovel a little sidewalk in front of your house, and life moves on. Y'all want to put a 10- foot wide multi-use path, which in the city ordinance currently is not distinguishable from a sidewalk. The way I read the ordinance, I'll be responsible for shoveling a 10- foot wideside path along the entire frontage of my property. My property, by the way, is pretty long. And the fact that in the winter, instead of going in the hill in my backyard and sledding down a hill with my daughter, who is three at the moment, I will have to be spending my time shoveling a 10-ft path. Also, and this is an interesting ordinance, an interesting ordinance is section 16-41. It shall be unlawful for any person to spit upon any public street or sidewalk. I will be required to shovel the path. I won't be allowed to spit on it when I'm done. And I think that's pretty interesting. Anyway, you're all welcome

to come to my house. I would love to have you. I think you're all wonderful. And I really do appreciate the the camaraderie here in Palitizens. So, thank you. I'd love to talk to you if you're able to talk, but yeah. Yeah. I won't be advocating for spitting on the sidewalk, but we will look into the the shoveling part. You don't have to worry about me. I'm not going to spit on any public sidewalks. I'm just saying it's a little funny to me that I'll have to clean it, but I won't be allowed to spit on. It just makes you wonder what happened to have somebody pass a law. Mayor, soon be finished with the com commissioner comments and my comments. I'll go out and give you some information. Yes, sir. Thank you. Name and address, please.

Yeah. Stephen Heador, 393 page drive. Well, I do appreciate I spoke with some of you uh this week, and I appreciate that. Um I I just came here to chat about and I appreciate again all your time um about the resolution 8i. Um again I I think I understand a bit more of what what's being you know gone for here. I do think the window could be smaller than up to two years. So that's kind of the my one my one request I guess would be a shorter span of time. And I do understand obviously you have to have the the sponsors and the votes for it. Um, but I do think it is important that sometimes things are raised a little more often than two years. Um, so again, I think a arbitrary type window would be a little bit better. But, um, so that's pretty much my my comments on this one today and I look forward to hearing everyone discuss it as we go forward. So, thank you.

Thank you. All right. Any other citizen comments? All right. Hearing none, we'll close citizen comments and we'll proceed forward with commissioner comments and reports. Uh, Commissioner Giles, you're recognized for five minutes, sir.

All right. Thank you, Mayor. Um, we we had some um uh some some comments about a drone show. I just want to let you know that I attended that last year and it was amazing. And um uh you know, others others here also attended that I saw. So, it was it was very good. So, I'm looking forward to it again this year as well. Um, we have, and you probably see it on the screen. If not, would you please put it up there, this Ride Mount Juliet Day, which is coming up Sunday at 2 PM at Charlie Daniels Park. the uh the police, I appreciate the police, are doing a a a rodeo for for the kids or anyone that probably will start around 1:30ish. And uh it's it's a great event to to attend. The kids get to ride on Charlie Daniels, excuse me, on Cedar Creek Greenway. And then they meet up with our fire department that will be there. Appreciate y'all too. And they get to um what we call chase a fire truck back. um to um to our uh initial destination when we start. And so it's a family fun event for all ages. Any child that's 12 and under can register to win a free bike given away that day. That bike is is uh sponsored and and provided by Veloters Bicycle Club and Biker's Choice Bicycle Store on Lebanon Road. It's um it's a very quality bicycle. So, please bring your children out and join us in this 11th annual event if I'm not mistaken. Um, also there'll be free Starbucks coffee, so come out and have a cup of coffee with us, you know. Um, as I was saying, I appreciate our fire department. I appreciate our police department. You know, I always make the

comment I did other day and some other people talking, you know, just if if you've got something stolen on your car or you're wanting to do something bad, don't come to Mount Jul because we're going to take care of you, you know. Absolutely. Just don't don't come. So, speaking of the the police department, u I got to and this is dealing with family, but you know, once in a while I want to say something. Um, I got to attend the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department annual awards today. And several years ago, my son had received an exemplary award um that that I think he can wear on his uniform. I get a little confused on what they wear on their uniforms, etc. So anyway, uh after Blake became a captain uh in Metro, he was able to assess and look at some of their procedures and some of their stuff like that. So today I got to attend that u that awards and um an off he and another officer was given an efficiency service award where that they had assessed some kind of procedure and I think it was in the IT department and uh found out how to do something more efficient and that will cost that will help save the city money and and time. So I want to say uh congratulations to Blake. It was a it was a a wonderful ceremony today. There were many of course the mayor was there and and the chief of police and etc etc and and uh a large police department. I think it's 2,261 if I'm not mistaken. So u again I just wanted to say congratulations to my son Blake. Thank you. That concludes my comments. Mayor,

thank you sir. We'll recognize the vice mayor.

Thank you mayor. And uh congratulations to your son there commissioner. tell him thank you also uh for his service. Please uh first of all, thanks for the folks that are coming out tonight uh and also the folks that are online. It's always great to uh hear some of the communication as always. Got a chance to talk to some of the folks uh this past weekend also uh that were here tonight. Um to the gentleman, Mr. Paul, I think Garrison, I apologize if I messed up that last name, but uh I think I got it right. I gave my card to uh to our city manager because I would like to sit on your front porch and hear what's going on. And I think I'll bring my own glass of iced tea and I'll bring one for you. Okay. So, we'll work that out so we can shop local as the uh as the last uh individual that was up there talking about that as well. So, uh looking forward to uh if uh time allows making it to the uh to the memorial show also, Commissioner. I think that'd be pretty cool for the first time this year. And um yes, I would love for our city to be able to somehow pull together one big Fourth of July fourth of July event. Um and uh and it would be great to be able to pull everybody together, but as our city grows, so does the uh um the space. So if it's uh if we're that fortunate enough to have two big fireworks shows, that just says something about our city that first of all, we're very patriotic. And the second thing is is that we are that big and that and that we're going to have that much fun that we got to have two big shows. So I think I take that as a compliment. So I don't take that as a negative. And uh so that's awesome. Um, also, you know, just uh just for the, you know, the just some little, I guess, uh, tidbits out there, communication from our fire department today. Thank you, sir, um, for getting that out. Um, I know our our police department does a great job at getting that out proactively approaching. It was great to see the fire department as well. Uh, yes, we are going to potentially have some storms tonight, but we know mother nature, she can change direction. She's the one that runs the uh, you know, the jet streams, not us. So, um hopefully it passes the

city and uh and we don't have to worry about anything for tonight. But, uh for the folks that um you know, again, we want to be prepared and just make sure that we think about these things. Um other than that, yes, um for the folks that are online, if you have any questions, concerns, continue to reach out to me. It's great to get the emails and uh I'll do my best to uh uh you know, respond as quick as possible. So, um with that, you all have a a safe night. Mayor, that concludes my report. Thank you. Thank you, sir. We'll recognize Commissioner Ley for five minutes.

Thank you. In addition to um everything that Commissioner J said about Ride Mount Juliet, um in case you don't know, BPAC is bicycle pedestrian advisory committee. And um the rain out date is May 17th, same times and it's a 3.3 mile ride and it's pretty much flat for the most part. Might be a slight hill. Um but it's for all skills. You don't have to be a certain um skill to you know come join. So it's all for any skill. Um we've had what three or four or five year olds ride their bicycles in in the ride as well. So please bring the family and join us on Sunday. Um and also May is bike month. We've got a resolution on the agenda tonight to um celebrate that. And uh let's see. Also, May 5th is the primary election here locally in Wilson County. Um you got schoolboard seats, you got county commission seats, you got register of deeds, county court clerk, um and so forth. So these local elections are very important. And I think the turnout so far is what less than 2% one just a little over 1%. So don't let that 1% determine who sits on the school board or who serves as your county commission. Um please get out and vote May 5th. Um and I think that um I think that's all. Thank you, Commissioner.

I'll just I'll just add I really didn't have much to say, but then again, something come across the the radar today. Got an email and it was I think what they were trying to trying to say was is um it was a bad thing, but I I got it the email read in there and I read into the email that was kind of comparing us to a neighboring city. It's like they collect 16 million more million dollars more in property tax every year and $4 million more than us in sales tax every year. And I really took that as a compliment to our city that for $20 million less on this that we're able to do the things that we're able to do at this city. And uh I don't think that's how it was meant, but I took it as a big compliment to what our staff does uh city leadership does and of course this this commission up here and the way they way they fight for every penny to be used properly. So I took that as a big compliment that we're able to do what we do being roughly the same size and be able to provide just as much services in most areas as anyone else out there on $20 million less a year. And I thought about this weekend. I mean, it's just the thing about living in Mount Juliet. Sometimes we get focused on some of the other stuff and I had a call with a a commissioner that that that works around here and he and you know, I was just kind of going through some of the challenges that we have and they said, "Well, you think you got it bad, you should see some of the challenges of not having the problems that you're facing in Mount Juliet." So, that was encouraging as well. But, you know, Sunny, I was going to work. I determined I was just going to work inside. I had some things to work on. But, I got out there. It's just a beautiful weekend. And and some of the times you just need to take a little moment and reflect about what a wonderful city we have, what great community that we have, the people that live here. I go by the Town Center Trail, and I mentioned that one because that's the one I drive by. It's packed. People out there just enjoying living life, having fun. Uh vice mayor and I

were able to to uh go over and visit the FFA plant sale over there and just see them what they're doing, the way they're plugged into the community and the involvement. You don't get that everywhere. I remember just driving back Sunday seeing seeing some kids out there with a lemonade stand and um I had food at a stop, but I went back and they had already put it up. But, you know, it's it says something. It's not every community out there that you can have one feel like you have the safety for your kids to get out there and try to sell lemonade. And then in some extreme cases, you would have had a government official out there telling them they needed a business permit to do that. So again, it's just a great city that we have in here and I think a good balance of community safety and what we have as um here in Mount Julia. It's special. So with that, I'm going to recognize our city manager for his comments.

Thank you, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Thanks for folks that are here tonight and those watching from home that couldn't be here. Uh shop local. That's the most important thing. And I know there's retailers that pop up. Mother are joining cities all the time, but please shop local. Uh we can't provide the services that we provide without those precious sales tax dollars and show up in our business plus our mom and pop businesses that are here that spend life savings on opening up these businesses. I talk to them all the time. We've had a slew of businesses open this year that were mom and pop businesses and we call on them regularly if not weekly to ask them how they're doing, how sales are, and we've got one that opened up with a lot of fanfare but they've been struggling recently and uh all that's for some internal issues as well. But don't want the citizens to forget about those business. very important. And I'd like to give a shout out to the Needm family. They've been here a long time, probably going on close to 40 years. We appreciate everything they do and their business here in Mount Juliet. And uh I also like to encourage everybody, please, if you hadn't bought a flag, I've talked to the uh manager at Lowe's. They've got a whole big huge shipment of American flags in and along with Walmart and other business. Any business carries American flag, you can buy one. So, if you haven't posted a flag on your house or business, please do so in honor of our great country and all the many blessings that we have here. And I'd also like to let the Nicholls residents know that Commissioner Giles gave me a shout today. Uh we'd had a town hall meeting some time back with them and uh the developer for a project that's near there and they were supposed I believe it's Elliot Reserve if I remember correctly, give them some blasting notifications. We're happy to post those if they'll just let us know. So, we'll be reaching out to them in the morning per Commissioner Giles's request. Uh, it's a simple thing if they'll just give us a heads up, especially through the fire department or even the city, we can put that alert out there and it gives our residents a heads up so they're not alarmed when all of a sudden they feel that rumble. And if if you're close to a blast like that, it can be startling. And uh so um appreciate you commissioner for bringing that to our attention and I've already reached out to the resident and they'll let the other residents know

but I'm hoping those that don't get that message will see this is that that's important to us. We don't have any authority over the state of course in blasting but we can definitely ask. So we'll we will be doing that and mayor that concludes my report.

Thank you sir. With that, I'll read the consent agenda, which is 8A, an ordinance to amend part B of the unified development code of the city of Mount Juliet, Tennessee, known as zoning regulations, ordinance 200129, adopted October 8, 2001, as amended by amending article 5, section 51041, design standards for multifamily dwellings and section 5104, development standards for single family residential uh resolution. The second one is a resolution declaring the city of Mount Juliet fire department mini pumper truck as surplus to be sold. The third item is a resolution declaring May as bike month in the city of Mount Juliet. The next item is a resolution to approve a contract with Impact Pyro to provide a fireworks display for the city's celebrate Mount Juliet 4th of July event. The next item is a resolution of the city of Mount Juliet, Tennessee, authorizing the display of the national motto in God we trust on city-owned vehicles. And the last item is a resolution supporting Mount Jul I'm excuse me, supporting Tennessee joint house joint resolution 51.

I have a motion and second. All in favor of the consent agenda, please signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? The consent agenda does pass. The next item for consideration on our agenda is 8E, a resolution of the board of commissioners of the city of Mount Juliet, Tennessee, providing direction to the city manager regarding a request for proposal responses received from the sale and the development of city-owned property in downtown in the downtown area. I hear a motion. All right, we have a motion and a second. The items on the floor. Do you want the floor? I do. Yes, ma'am.

I agreed to sponsor this because I think we are to the point that we need a decision. Uh so we need a vote. But anyway, um so that we all Kenny took a straw poll individually with each one of us and to see where we were on the options. Um, so since and to be fair, Commissioner Hefner is not here tonight and he also gave he responded to the straw poll. So I I think it would be fair if all five of us were here and we can discuss it. So I would like to make a motion to defer. Uh any suggestions on

you want to do um it's going to well it's going to be uh you can do next meeting or then it would be June if you if you go any further. I would like to try for next meeting since we only have one meeting in May and the June both Junes are going to be we have the budget u you know I'll second that deferral okay for a meeting. Any questions or comments on the advisement of deferral? All in favor of deferral for one meeting, please signify by saying I. I.

Any opposed? We are deferred for one meeting on 8E. The next item is 8 I resolution of the board of commissioners of the city of Mount Juliet, Tennessee establishing a procedure for agenda items that fail to receive a motion or second and restrict the reintroduction reintroduction by the same agenda sponsor. Motion second. There's a motion second item's on the floor. Any questions or comments? Vice Mayor. So, uh, mayor, I think there was a resident, uh, that actually talked earlier and commissioner and I was looking at it. It, uh, it's not a two-year. It's actually only a one year. So, I just want to make sure that the folks

on our notes it says one over here. Yeah, it's a it's a one-year. Um, it's it delays it for one year or the next municipal election. Um it there's no circumstances there's no situation where it would equal exactly two years but it could be close to that. Okay. So it's either or whichever is longer. Okay. Or not either or it's just whichever is longer. One year or past the next municipal election. Okay. I understand. Thank you for the clarification on that. Any other questions or comments? Commissioner Ley, we have the floor.

All right. Um section one just defines agenda sponsor. Um section two addresses the failure. Um so it's determined if it doesn't get a motion or a second. It's deemed not properly brought before the board. Uh because no question is formally placed, therefore considered inactive. So, um, three talks about reintroduction. So, I have a question. The COLA um budget amendment that I brought, it failed to get a second. Um, and so then next meeting or two, Commissioner Giles said that he wanted to co-sponsor that to bring that back. So, had this been in place, my question is, would I have had to drop my name from the sponsorship and then um Commissioner Giles would be the only sponsor?

That's a good question. Uh I don't The whole purpose of this for me is just to make sure that it's got at least two people that want to go down the path of it. If somebody else wants to add their name or whatever to it, I don't have any objection to that. I just want to make sure that we're not hearing the same thing over and over just because one person wants to position and there's no there's no will for anybody else to hear it. That's what I'm trying to block. So, as long as there's two, I'm fine with that. All right. Do do we need to um reword here? Would you have a suggestion?

In section five, the first one, it says a different member of the board of commissioner serves as the agenda sponsor. It could just say a different or additional. Okay. Do you want to make that motion, Commissioner? I will. A motion to amend section five number one to add the verbiage uh after a different member and add um what' you say for it to read a different or additional member. Yes. So that's my motion.

Okay, I'll second. Any questions or comments on the um on the motion? All right. All in favor of the motion, please signify by saying I. Hi. Any opposed? Okay. You still have the floor if you

Yeah. Um Okay. So, what if we get a lot of things on the agenda that we don't sponsor but uh it comes to us because of a positive recommendation from planning commission. Um now, how does that work if that doesn't get a motion or a second? I would I would say this is only a prohibition on commissioners from reintroducing the same thing but I don't know many examples where that happens from you have a specific example

um I don't know say a a put or um like a some like a code amendment Well, we already know legally that if planning commission gives a land use amendment a negative, then a board member has to bring it. Uh if anybody chose to. So, we we already know that. So, that's the law. But, um

I think our attorney's uh got something in mind. I don't think this usually happens, but our code does allow for if a reszone fails, generally the applicant can't bring it back within a year. However, there is the caveat that the board of commissioners can bring it back. So, that would be a commissioner sponsoring that. But I will say it didn't fail at the it wouldn't be the same sponsor. It would be a different sponsor. Exactly. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So I think to answer the commissioner's question is if it's sponsored by another board getting here then if a commissioner were to sponsor after it fails that would be different and this would not apply. Yeah.

Okay. So you're saying that that would the a reszone would apply just like a land use. I don't speak. Well, I I I think what our attorney was saying was if if something was brought under the sponsorship of the planning commission and it failed, how there's a prohibition on it being reintroduced for a year by that through the efforts of that applicant, but a commissioner could take it upon themselves to sponsor it after the fail to come back. That would clearly be a different sponsor than the planning commission. So this wouldn't apply to that situation, which is the same situation as a land use fail, right?

If a land use failed, then it would require a commissioner to sponsor it. And if it didn't receive a second in that PL case, it would be dead by that commissioner uh under the statutes of this resolution. Okay. So just any commissioner could volunteer to bring it, right? Yeah. If there's a second person that wants to go forward with it, that that's totally in their rights.

Okay. All right. Um, let's see. We answered that one. All right. Got a question on section five where it talks about exceptions number three. Let's see. All right. Hold on. Which is the item must be considered due to state law, court order, or contractual obligation or administrative necessity.

All right. So, I guess maybe my question applies to number two, which is the board of commissioners by majority vote votes to suspend the restriction for good cause shown. All right. So I guess my question is how does that end up coming back to for a vote if for majority if if it's restricted on coming back? So how would that come back? I would I would think that would be mostly apply like a motion to reconsider.

All right. And and would that have to be done by by a certain time frame according to Robert's rules? A motion to reconsider has to happen in the same meeting that the vote occurred. The the same day. Yes. In the same meeting. Same meeting. So that couldn't come back at any point after that. Yeah. A meeting's defined as up until adjournment. Okay. So that's basically Robert's rules. And the part in here where you have the mayor or presiding officer with the advice of the city attorney shall determine. Um, so that's Robert's rules. That's Robert except for the attorney piece. Except for the attorney piece.

Yeah. I wanted to put that in there and it's specifically speaking Robert's rules which was what's the same question. It's what's called the same question that's determined by the chair. But I wanted to put in there with the advisement of the um our city attorney because you know the next chair may not be as good as I am. I'm joking. Okay. Go ahead. No. I just want to commission

see when I read too I thought that if if something had not passed and that that that could be on the agenda as a discussion item that it was going to be brought back. So you're saying it would you put it on there to discussion and if it did then it would be voted on. I just thought it would be like one meeting away from when you're going to bring it back that you wanted to put it on there if one of us wanted to put it on there as a discussion item. So that's not I mean to get this consent to do that to vote to bring it back. That's what I thought it meant.

Yeah. Like if it's bringing something back, if there's a second person that's in favor of it, they just simply sponsor it and it would this wouldn't apply then and it could be brought back. And if there's definitely a majority vote to do it, I mean it would then you would theoretically you'd have two additional sponsors on reintroducing it. So I don't think that's not a concern to me. Okay. So then where would this two apply? It it would just be only in the same meeting if something that's what it's that's what Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That was my section.

Commissioner Mley, you recognized section three where it talks about reintroduction um about the time frame one year from the date of the meeting at which the item failed to receive a motion or a second or until after the next municipal election. Correct. for the city, whichever period is longer. They I know where you're doing it and I get it and I totally agree with it. Um that to me just does seem kind of extreme. Uh, for example, if I got elected and I brought something and it failed, that would mean unless another sponsor picked it up, I couldn't bring it back until two years, up to two years later because we have elections every two years. Um, and if I got reelected after two years, then I could bring it back. So, right. So

well Matt Max you got elected and you we met in the in the second say we you'd be seated in the second meeting in November the next the next municipal if it would failed at that meeting that would be the most extreme point from failure then it would be the next municipal election which would be just shy of two years. Yes, that but yeah, that's the most extreme and obviously it's a countdown as you get closer to the elections, but we're talking about the municipal elections that occur every two years in November as the defining there.

Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't know that just seems a little extreme, but I get why you're doing it. Uh any other feedback on the timeline from anybody? Vice Mayor.

Yeah. Uh I mean like the only two concerns that I really got, one is somebody's tracking that right just to make sure. I think that's going to be left up to city recorder. So and then the other side of it is that I'm just concerned making sure that you know that um again following the sunshine law is that you know again we can't deliberate, we cannot promote, we cannot talk. So it's going to be a lot back to the city manager uh and and also to be able to have that discussion back and forth. So um I I do understand this process here. Um you know it's just going to be a little bit timeconuming. So um but at the same time it it makes sense. Um that's all I got. I just want to make sure that it is out there that we are going to have some challenges to have that discussion back and forth. So, just like with anything else, I mean, just like what you were saying earlier, when it comes down to uh this land that's behind city hall, you know, it's having that discussion, it's it's very challenging. So, anyways, that's all I got.

I I would I would say I I I don't see a challenge in the terms of discussion because if Commissioner Giles brings something or Commissioner Mley and it doesn't get anywhere and I mean, I already have it presented to me on the agenda. I know what it is. If if I get some information in two weeks, like somebody calls me up and says, "Hey, you blockhead, you didn't consider this." Then I can I can always contact Jennifer and just say, "Hey, put it back on there on there under my sponsorship." It doesn't require me to have any conversation with the original sponsor at that point, Commissioner Mley.

Okay. So just to make sense of section three um for if somebody brings something and it's it uh fails for lack a second. So the same person couldn't bring it back for a year or up to possibly two years unless another person on the board would agree to bring it back. That could override like section three. Right. Well, I I really I would I really say there's no agreement. It's just their choice to do it. There's there's no need for them to have a conversation with anyone. Just choose to bring it back if they like it.

Well, I was just looking for uh is this seen as ironclad or if some say if another election comes? This is this is a rule. So,

yes. I mean, if if circumstances become extreme enough, I mean, a simple motion to suspend the rules, which after this item, I plan to introduce a motion to suspend the rules. So, I would suspend the rules if I if it was if I felt that extreme. But again, to have the votes to suspend the rules would require more than one person to support something to begin with. So, it it it seems like almost pointless because if if there truly was that support for it, somebody would bring it. Well, yeah, you would think. I mean, so ultimately I I agree with it. I just wanted discussion on the timeline. I just wanted feedback from everybody else what they thought about it.

Yeah. Yeah. And I and I agree to your point. At the most extreme point following the election, um the person wouldn't be seated. You could you could get right up at two years. So, that would be the most extreme, but that's constantly a time clock that's chasing chasing down up to the one-year mark. And if the if two years later uh somebody else got replaced and they wanted, they liked that even though they had to wait two years, but say they ran and they won. So, that's a new person on the board, they definitely could bring it back and then possibly there'd be two people to support. Yeah, it's it's no different than now somebody gets replaced. Yeah, they

do what they like. Okay, are we ready to vote? All right. All in favor of eight I as once a minute, please signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? That does pass. And with that, I'll make a motion to suspend the rules for the purposes of discussing consent agenda items. Move a second. I got a second. All right. All in favor of suspending the rules, please signify by saying I.

Any opposed? Yeah, I my apologies. I meant to add this at set agenda and I got um I wanted to put this a discussion here at the end of it and the purposes of it was having a little conversation with the uh city recorder. I was like, you know, there's some things here I think we can go and consent. It's kind of like why don't we I'd like to see stuff like uh the some of the automatic things just automatically placed on consent so we don't have to do it here at the table because I think it gets a little confusing sometimes when I'm up here throwing alphabet soup out. Um things like uh items being sent to go deals um we're going to dispose of something. these routine things. Uh, I'd like to see those automatically placed on consent, but to do that, I'd like to give the city recorder some uh, guidance on it from this body. Now, as with anything on consent, we can pull it off by objection at set agenda.

So, I know everybody at the table, you come prepared, so you're going to know anyway at set agenda if you want to pull something off. But I just think for administrative purposes it would streamline our meeting some. Well, Mayor, I mean, obviously I mean, anything that helps streamline the process to be able to give the um the rest of the residents an opportunity to actually speak about their own projects or the any other concerns within our city, I'm all for it. So, yeah, I I mean, I have no problem with that. um especially if we have that option to be able to take it off and and be able to um add that to the topic if we need to based off of the specific item. So, I think that's a great idea. Yeah, Commissioner J.

Yeah, I like it too. I think you're right on there. I think there's there's some that you can't put on consent and that's what the attorney would say you can't because of in the money or something sometimes you can't if I'm not mistaken things. Is there an example that can't go on consent? I don't I think we get passed the budget on consent technically. Well, I know what I know what if it's a negative recommendation a negative recommendation from the planning. It can't be on consent.

I don't know that it's necessarily that we can't. It's just that the board has given I think it was probably to Sheila the direction to not. But things I would maybe recommend that the board consider would be things like surplus property and contracts. If you didn't want to do all contracts, you could set maybe a dollar limit of ones you do want and not be on consent or something like that. But

I'd be fine with all of them because if it's if it's got a if it's got something that needs to be discussed up here at the table, um, just pull it off. But I'm going to say with most contracts, if I've got questions, I've already got with staff before I get here. So, I'm going I'm going to know. I don't know what everybody else's feelings are on that. I'm okay with that. To me, to me, we're managing the exceptions now instead of making everything the exception. Any other thoughts on this? Great idea. Thank you.

So, you got direction when we do the agendas surpluses, the donations, the contracts to be automatically placed on consent. uh the board so chooses feels like it needs debate or discussion, uh we'll pull it off a consent set agenda instead of me going the other way. All right, there's nothing else to be said. I'm going to make a motion to go back into regular session. Second. Now, without objection hearing none. All right, our next item on the agenda is adjournment. Uh without objection, we're adjourned.