Harbor Committee - Regular Meeting

Okay, meeting to order. Do we have a secretary? Huh? Chris is still out fishing and stories on Zoom. So, somebody needs to step up. It'll be a fairly pretty basic meeting. Pretty basic. Whoa, look at all the volunteers before. Howie, do you know how to write? You just said you've done it before. There you go. No. Somebody know how to write Rick. Good man. I don't have a paper. Neither is he. Anyway, first item on the agenda is to approve the minutes of January 13th. Make a motion to approve the minutes of January 13th.

Okay. Uh item D is new business. And the first item is We didn't vote on that, didn't we? No. What about February the meeting the minutes? Oh, all in favor of the minutes as prepared? Opposed? Thank you very much. There we go. We need to approve the minutes of February 10th. I That's me. I Now we have to approve the minutes of February 10th. Make a motion to approve the minutes of February 10th. Second. Any discussion? All in favor, raise your hand. Opposed? scary. Sorry to make you write more, Howie. Oh, good.

Thanks, Howie. I That's all I need to do. I I feel good. But it's a great tape anyway. So, see, you'll have a GPI report. Brian, is that you? That is me. All right, John. For the report anyway. I have a big paper copy if you guys want to work. Okay. Oh, that's for the plans. Second that second

that's yes for the second part.

Um okay. Let me share here. And I emailed this out to you all back when we originally got it booked would have been December. is not up there anymore, is he? No, Brian. Okay. I'm from the nor easter and us four participants. Y'all can see that. Okay. Yeah, looks good. So, the red lines that you see, the ones that run, there's parallels that run out here and then there's parallels that run on the parking lot and then there's one that runs up the road. That was through that was their seismic testing that they did in they put a bunch of geophones which basically pick up the vibrations on a long string on a cable. So they drilled them in, set them and then there was this poor girl that like she was out there with a sledgehammer or fulls size sledgehammer just and hit him three

times next to every one of them all the way up each and every one of her shoulders. Look at that. So that was the seismic that they did, but it that was the most successful thing that they accomplished with looking at this. They also did ground penetrating radar, which is a little like lawnmower size thing that has wheels that stays low to the ground and it you just sweep it around. But it because of the salt water and tide levels, they didn't get very good results from that. So mostly you're talking about the red lines are the seismic information. So that's where they did them. And then let's see, line one, line two, line three, line four. We'll go back up for a second just to orient where these are. So line one is the top line that runs horizontal out on the pier. Line two is the bottom line runs horizontal. Three is the westerly line running north south. Four or isly line that runs north and south. So the first two are the pier and the second two are the parking.

One's darker than the other. They show the red line. Yeah. I think it's just the thickness of the So if they only did that section, they would have gone all the way out to the end of each line. Uh

I don't think you asked him that question. The effective data coverage is in bold and so the bolder broader wider portion of it that's the effective coverage. Okay. The full line was longer than that but it so they didn't go to the end of the pier. They did go to the end of the pier but I think it didn't get as good of a reception. They they need to have I think stuff on both sides in order to get the full sweep. What was the distance between their phones? Three feet. Three feet. Yeah. Young lady swing a lot of sledgehammer down on that. He'll mouth off if she makes it.

Yeah. And then so line one and line two are the lines of color on the left. So those are the two that are on the pier and it's they're measuring the velocity of the waves that they created when they're smacking the top surface. Right? And what does a good thing look like? What does a bad thing look like? The more dense the material, the faster that seismic wave moves through it. And so red is faster.

Okay. blue is slower. So blue is basically less consolidated compacted material and then anything grading up to red is more compacted. And so if you look at line one on the left top left block you can see at the very bottom of it there are some peaks of red and they've got a little dash line on there. That's effectively bedrock. And then bel above that when we're looking at this blue right here, you can see where my pointer is. Yeah. Yep.

That's about 22 to 40 ft deep from the surface of the pier. And so in my mind that and I think the guy when we talked to him was of similar mind. That's probably native material, mud that was down there that didn't really get excavated out or it wasn't filled that was brought in because it's 22 feet below the surface of Are you suggesting that's out on the end of the pier? It's out on the end of the pier. Okay. So, historically, you know, we tried to build that pier at least another 40 ft and it started collapsing and the reason it collapsed is because obviously the blue is

loose material. Loose material. So they dug it out and stopped the construction. I can tell you that historically. So it would have gone out. We wanted it further out. So this was this was while it blew the last of the stable material that you could get. Well, they didn't have this kind of testing in those days. It was just McQuinn dumping, you know, keep building it out and out and out and all of a sudden they couldn't keep up with the Phil disappearing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, can you all see there's a dashed black line that runs through right here? Yeah.

My cursor is going. That's what they what they put that dash line on there for is to sort of demonstrate where the extent of the upper compacted materials are. So, that yellow and green that's above that dash line is effectively the compacted material. But you can see there's sort of a blue grayish blue plume that sort of sticks up, right? That probably some of it has leaked down and there's there's an issue in that one little spot where you've got barely uncompacted material. Put my cursor close. So it's just right below the cursor, right? Yep.

So there's sort of a loose material spot right there, but it's not extensive across the entire surface of the pier. It's just sort of isolated to that spot. And then if you look at the next line, we'll go back a page for a second. So this is the south line that runs east west on the pier, right? Mhm.

So that's line two. That's this lower. It's a similar story. You've got a dash line that runs along the bottom that shows bedrock, right? But you got this bedrock arch that comes up in here. So the bedrock's a little higher here. Then you got this looser material, this sweep of blue. So you're suggesting that's about in the middle of the My thought is that where he shows that going up, that's where the pier transitions from the pier to the parking lot, right? You start to get into the ledge that comes down from the from Seal Harbor. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. I think I think that's right. And you sort of see it on that first one. There's a little bit of it. See, there's a pretty red area right there. Um, and so this it's just a little more meat there of of ledge that you're getting to when you get closer to the parking lot. So, Brian, when we're seeing like the little sunk holes on the surface, this is like way deeper than that, right? This is way deeper than that. But I would say that your sunk holes, see where my cursor is right now? That's on the lower left block above but right by the word the number two below the number two of line two. Yeah, it's soft material there.

Oh, so you think that's like from the top like a cavity almost cover? I think that's a potential for an issue going forward that you could lose material more material there and you could have a hole that needs to be filled. But on both sides of it is green. Yeah. If they're more compacted, right? And I think the bottom line that I took away from talking to the guy is that we don't have a bunch of loose material everywhere all over the top. We've got little spots right

here and there and we've been doing spot work to fix it. I think the bottom line is that we just keep doing spot work to fix it. It doesn't they appear to have a really dire need for a comprehensive tear it out, repack it, recover it. Well, which to me is great news. We can Is the perimeter of the uh the pier dry stack granite? It's mortar, isn't it? No, I think it's dry. I think it's dry stack.

The perimeter around the parking is, you know, concrete pin and pointed, but the pier itself is dry stacked. And then the line three and line four, if you remember, they run north south. Line three is the one that's on the west side of the parking lot and the line four is on the east side. Much more compacted material, much heavier compaction in this. Line three, if you remember, not to bring up sore subject, that the pole power pole that got put in. Yeah, that's a bunch of concrete. Well, that was

cuz we've poured a ton of concrete in there to put that pole in. Yeah, that was the only way we could get away without putting a guy wire in there. So, we were trying to constrain it to one spot and not have a wire sticking out, right? That people could see me running into or whatever. So, concrete was our That's what that big blob is to the left. That's what that big blob is to the left on line three, right?

And then you can see next to it is a little unconsolidated. And I think there's been trouble in that spot. I think that's near where that storm drain is. Right. I think we've done some work there. And then there's a little more consolidation in this green. That's closer to the bathrooms. That's all filled area too, isn't it? Where that restaurant was.

Yeah. Some kind of Yeah, some kind of fill from from whenever. Um, but again, you know, you see there's the blue that's near surface that's pretty unconsolidated, but it's isolated to a little patch of it. Then come down to line four. This one's on the east side of the parking lot. Again, you got compaction on this right side of the graph up at the top. Some somewhat uncompacted. There's a lot of bedrock down below. And then there's this plume of blue. sort of in the middle. That's a potential issue. Then the left side actually is better or Yeah. left side's got a better compaction for that stretch.

Yeah. Um so it's a shot of it really is more of it being a isolated spots that we are going to have issues with but dealing with it on an isolated basis case by case I think is well it's been pretty serviceable over the for a long time we don't have any seal havoc guys here saying no Well, their complaint is you can't get in alongside at the low tide, you know. Yeah. Dredge, but you'd have to dredge it, right? Yeah. Or make the ocean.

But the whole question is what is if we going to add 30 ft on the end, right? What's the What are we What are we going to deal with? That that's the real question. Well, it's almost answerable because there's nothing there to support anything, is it? You said when they were trying to do that. Well, they already tried that. I mean, they they I can't tell you back in the day how far back they came, but initially there was they wanted that to be out there. I know. But did anybody drive a piling to see how or were they just doing it with Phil that kept disappearing?

Well, it was Phil just disappeared. They, you know, they build it up and come back the next day and it would be sunk again. Yeah. And uh then they basically decided that they were on the edge of a cliff of bedrock. They can't do anything. Yeah. But that would be I mean if we're really going to do anything that would be the question is get a sounding off the end of that pier. So we really know how far down if we were ever going to do anything. Well, I mean I guess that would be beyond this study, wouldn't it? Yeah. We didn't No, no, no. I mean, that would be another engineering issue. That'd be core drilling and all kinds of different things. But if we

even if we could get permits, that would be another big deal, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it? Yeah. Wait till sea level rise. But the but the whole complaint from everybody over there is that it isn't that, you know, they always talk about we need it needs to go out further, right? But we don't know the answer to that because we've never had any. This whole study was to see what the condition is of what is there, right? Because they complained about a few sink holes here and there and they wanted a study to make sure that Yeah. the whole thing wasn't going to slide under the ocean, right? But to me, this is a pretty good indicator of Oh, yeah. You know,

I think it's an indicator of both. We're okay. Like we're okay with the way it is. and extending it doesn't look like there's an opportunity because it gets off quick about the right analysis. Yeah. When you say everybody, who do you mean? Just a couple fishermen that would like to be able to get in there. Yeah. I mean, everybody that fishes out of there like three taxpayers and nine guys from out of town. John, what's our goal? Are we going to pursue this further or

No, I think the just of what me and Brian got out of our meeting with Van Vanj is that it's in a lot better condition than what we had hoped for and there's a few spots that we are keep an eye on and repair as necessary. Yeah. with injection of concrete mortar mix of some sort crow or concrete or tear it off and repack it with some fabric or it it'll become as we see things needed we address them individually so our goal right now is to recommend that we maintain the pier in good condition but not try to expand it am I correct

the thought is it isn't going to fall over right from what we see here we just need this was doing little patch the condition of what we have. This was not had anything to do with looking into any type of expansion or anything. Yeah. But this is hitting that right you can see where it drops off as a motion. Do we need a I would make that as a motion that we accept this report as the condition of the existing pier and our goal is to maintain its serviceable condition. I would second that. Okay, that work.

Yep. Any discussion? All in favor, raise your hand. Opposers. Okay. In general, what's the surface condition? I mean, it would be it's a little it's old asphalt and kind of a mix patched in wherever. I mean, it could get a fresh surface at some point, but we I mean, it's not terrible. Would you address the soft spots if you were going to do the surface? Um, I'd actually want to check in with Ben about that a little bit and see when it was last surfaced. He probably would know and whether or not there's room to surface it 12 years ago.

12 14 years ago. What's the status of the uh restrooms? We will be putting in the other ones, the the ones we bought for self-contained. Yeah, they're self-contained units. They got power and water and they go into the the lift station. They're both they're, you know, right toilets, the whole deal there, but they're pretty nice. And they're they got ramps. They have ADA ramps. They're a little bigger. They got their space in them. Y is the water and power all ready to go? Uh the water line goes in seasonally. That was hanging that hangs on the wall. The water just needs to be black pipe. Yeah. into what I use for the pier. So,

yeah. And then, uh, power. We got to get we got to get power over there and the panel that panel when we've got the concrete in place and then we're going to set the sewer parts all been done. And the sewer parts sitting there and we just have to do final connection pieces. Cool. When do you think it I mean, when do you think it'll go in? Just out of curiosity. I won't hold you to any date. No, it's slow. It should stop snowing. No, I just mean you think it'll be done by June or July. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's all I mean. You know, by summer. And then the first year is going to be the hardest one to just get everything configured. And then once we've got it, we're then just plug and whatnot and then Yes.

Pick them up, haul them off, bring them back in, hook them back up. It should be they get hauled every fall. I I was proposing that we pull them every fall and not leave them sit there all winter long to just get eat up. Yes. Yeah. So, put them in for the summer season and we can keep them October. Yeah. Well, as long as the uh Oh, well, October. Okay. Yeah, I guess so. I would say November, right? November would be better. How late? I mean, until they pull the the uh ramps would be the best. That's the weather depending. Yeah. You know, is that usually by December 1st, right? They are there till December 1st, but

the cold weather would hit these things and freeze them up before then. Yeah. So, whenever the water company says I usually I usually kill the water over there probably sometime in late October, early November. Well, that seems like the reasonable time to do it. Yeah. Whenever they turn off the water. We keep the other portables what? mid-occtober. But I think there's one way to pull those. I just figured, you know, as long as the fisherman can use it, it would be good. That's

good. Thank you. Anybody have any questions, comments? All good news, I guess. Thanks for doing this. I think uh it was a concern of the the Well, we needed a professional answer. Yeah. A woman with a sledgehammer. But I mean, but being able to work between the town and the harbor to make it happen, you know. Oh, I appreciate that cooperation. Yeah. She literally every three feet she swung that eight or 10 pound sledgehammer three times and hit the pin and then walked to the next one. It was

And there were I don't know how many pins there were. Wow. But it was all the way up that hill. So hit hit the pin. Yeah, she hit the pin, I think, is what she was hitting. Yeah. So I don't know. You think they have something? This creates that shock. Oh no. Think it like with air compression but being something else that's making noise. I mean I think the idea is the sledgehammer other than it hitting that pin makes no noise. And you know the background noise from a piece of a machine you know doing something would interfere

cuz they said even when they were doing that that you know if a big dump truck came down out of ringing point it would have you know potentially showed something. You ever have that at the garden club with all the landscaping we're going to do there? That wasn't me. I came to the select board for that. Oh okay. at those meetings. I heard it was sent was sent over to you. Okay. Um Okay. So, Brian also is going to give us an overview of the the ice rink and tennis court construction that's coming.

All right. We're going out to rebid that. We had just a sole bid, which never gives you a true understanding when the market is. So, we rejected the single bid. It was also incomplete. We went out to bid. It goes out today. um to rebid that. The biggest part of it is timing and where they're going to be and staging, you materials coming in and out and all that. And so I wanted to give an update on kind of what Greg and I had come up with and talk to John about it a little bit along with Alex um in terms of how we might access the site, stage materials, do the work, and then what time frame that they would be they would be down there. So, what we want to do, what we think is a reasonably good idea is this end of the tennis courts because the electrical is going to come through there is going to get kind of dug up anyway. So, that's a staging area and keep it out of the parking and then the active construction is on the courts itself. And what we think we should be able to do and Dave Karns actually had another idea talking to him today. I'll relay that as well. But the bus stop right now is here basically. It's right here. I guess initially thinking we move the bus stop up to here by where the lobster logo is. There's a post with some power on it. Move the bus stop up to here. So the bus still comes through the loop as usual, but they'd stop farther up.

Well, that would be a permanent move. No, just for just for construction. And this is the Island Explorer. Island Explorer bus. Yes, that's right. That would allow for the contractor and their trucks delivering and hauling materials to come in and use the bus loop, pull forward here, and then back into the site through a little access road that we put right there. Is the footprint of this new construction the same as the footprint right now? It's just a little bit bigger. A little bit bigger. Okay. I think the bigger is the compressor.

The compressor is over on this side here inside of a fence. So, it's screened off. Um, but the fencing itself that goes around the tennis courts, we're going to reuse as much of it as we can, but it does expand in size just a little bit. So, just to fit a little bit. This side right here is staying basically the same. Uh, is that foliage all going to be removed everywhere? No, I don't. No, we don't. We shouldn't be even removing. We're staying. It just scooches to the east a little bit. Yeah, there's nothing right there. And then a little to the north. Yeah, there's nothing really there, but there is all the

And then we foliage there. We consume a little space here. But we thought staging on that north end would keep it so we're not we're trying to minimize or eliminate as much impact to parking as possible. We were trying to do because there's plenty of people trying to park down there. We don't really want to interrupt the ability to be able to do that. So using that access where the bus comes through that loop

to bring trucks in. We can even stage them along there too. There should be room for both the bus and a dump truck to be in there at the same time. It's pretty wide through there. The other suggestion that I got from Chief Karns today was maybe to move the bus stop over here. That was my initial thought. There's a few parallel. When is this going to take place? In the middle of the summer. The bid goes out now. I think we're talking about April 20th. Select board is the approval of whatever whatever bid we go with and then notice to proceed the next day. And so they should be able to get started in that April time frame. And then

you going to give them a drop dead date? Not not a not a short one. We're going to let them continue to work on it. The tennis courts are pretty underutilized right now because they're in such bad condition. And so I didn't think it was so bad to have the tennis courts in state of construction during the summer. We want to have windows of time over the holiday weekends where they are out of there not working at all. So, particularly like Memorial Day, there's way too much going on. We don't want them working through Memorial Day there or the 4th or Labor Day. Yep. And so, we have a negotiated time frame that we're going to tell them that they just can't be there. But, we didn't want to leave the site idle either. We wanted to get it done. So,

how long do you think it will take? Yeah, I don't think the actual process is going to take all that long. It's overall a relatively simple project because you're just scooping out what's there, putting in proper fill, and pouring the slab, wiring up the tubing and the and the and the rebar that goes in there. Um, I don't know exactly how long it's going to it's going to take, but it's it's just not that complicated of a project. So, is there any objection to moving the bus stop over on to the left? You would prefer over on that road.

Well, I I mean looking at the diagram, it makes it looks more accessible for people and not so remote. Was that Would that cut into parking at all? That's the only lose a spot or two. Couple of spots probably in order. I don't know if you need all of those spots. Well, you're going to lose all of them because that guy, whoever's driving that bus, going to come in like this. It would be easier for the people that are used to being down there every summer if it was over near the loop than over on the side. That's my only hang on the loop. I think the loop would be good around the little We lose no parking. And we lose no parking. Yeah. So, it was on the end end of the loop sort of work. Yeah.

I don't see any issues. He's curious. What was what was Dave's reasoning for wanting to move? Uh just to get the bus completely out of our way. The bus could still maybe potentially take the loop, but then just would never be sitting there. They sit in idle at times waiting. Yeah. Be on their schedule. Then you need all kinds of new signage and stuff, too. If you Well, it's only just a little ways around. Oh, for the other. Yeah. So, is is the um construction going to block both pathways from the Cranberry parking lot? That's what it sounds like.

Both pathways. The You're talking about the sidewalk that runs next to the Yeah, the path at the top of the tennis courts and then the path at the bottom of the tennis courts. Sounds like you have construction on both ends. And those are the paths everyone takes from the cranberry lot. Is this the path on the top? Yeah. Is that what you mean? Yes. That one and the parallel one below it there. I don't There's not an actual path here, right? It's a paved path. There is one there. Okay. I don't think they're going to disturb that area. They won't be disturbing that area. So, I think that passed.

You said you were going to have the construction vehicles back into that here. Um, I'll have to take a look at it and see how we could maybe move where they back in to try and avoid impacting that path. Did you say this work's going to take all take place during the summer?

Well, they they can start sooner than that. And if their schedule allows, then it shouldn't take up I I I just don't know yet until we get a contractor on board and what they're proposing for a schedule. We do have in the contract the bid specifications that they can work up until November and be completed by November. So, the tennis courts are taking the second seat to the skating rink now. And we don't we don't care about the tennis courts and we don't care about the summer visitors or what the whole area is going to look like during the summer when it's busy. In here, if that's okay,

on our end, we're trying to get a project done. It is not ideal that it's going further into the summer by any stretch of the imagination, but we're still trying to get it done. Waiting till the fall runs a lot of risks of it hitting up against winter once again. Um, and so given that we had to go a little later into the summer, yes, I do think the tennis courts will be negatively impacted during the course of this summer um, by this project. The key for us, I think, first and foremost, is for marina operations to remain in in place. And so that's really the top priority here. Um, will there be some people upset that the tennis courts are less accessible during the summer? Yes, that will almost certainly occur and that's something we'll have to deal with. We're really trying to triage the best case scenario as we go here to still get this done. But story, yes. Um, if it in fact turns out that the summer residents are more upset about the lack of tennis courts than they are the ice rink that they donated for, that'll be my heat to take.

It's just a shame that this is going to take place and you're going to have all these construction vehicles down there. Yes, I know you are. We're aware. The one other part of speaking of construction vehicles, we do have personnel that are going to come on site and they're going to have their own personal vehicles and where we put them so that they're not competing for parking spots and talking about this is a continuous row. Now, this driveway doesn't exist anymore. So, this is a continuous row of kiosk parking.

Mhm. And initially we're thinking that that would be about the best place for them to put their personal vehicles while they're down there. We can put their license plates into the system so we can give the license plate numbers to PD. That'll go into their parking enforcement. So if anybody comes by with the license plate reader, they're going to look like they've paid because they'll be in the system and they'll take up that one strip of parking. That's kiosk parking for vehicles of the contractors that are down there to keep them out of the main marina parking. But just a question, so the trucks with materials will come in in onto the bus loop. Yes.

But they're going to deposit the materials on the north end of the course that staging area. There'll be a staging area there. I don't know that much material get dumped there. I would think that they would have equipment and supplies and things there, but you know, if they're if they're in there with an excavator and they're digging it, they're just going to put it next to themselves, then put it in the truck, haul it off. When they bring in materials, they'll probably just dump it in a pile and then spread it out. I don't know that much material will get staged of of the actual dirt, rock, whatever, but at least they'll have somewhere to put box and access at all from the east end. In other words, you won't make approaches from the west side on that staging area.

I don't think we're going to have to put approaches from the west side other than just whatever blocking might be needed in order to put the chiller in place like very short. There is a little bit of electrical work that's going to come through here to get to the chiller. So, there's going to be a trench that gets cut through here and it's going to come through this

going to come through this parking lot. It comes from a little north of where we are right now. Um there's a transformer out there now. They're going to set another transformer. So there's going to be a short duration of these parking spots uh impacted by cutting open a trench, putting in conduit, running electrical lines, back filling the trench, and then repaving. Um that'll be on the tail end of the project. So that would probably be in the fall, and it would be limited duration. Um, it wouldn't be for the extent of the entire project. That's just going to be kind of on the tail end for a short time. On that on the north end of the tennis courts

where the path is that people used to get to is now gravel. Yes. The chance asphalt now. Is it asphalt now? I think that's No, it's that gravel now. You're right. It is gravel now. I think we're ch I think we're putting asphalt in. Yeah, that's I was going to make sense if we could route to pave that. And then I think Paul built that. He did. That was one of those let the people walk and they'll make their own path. Making their own path, right? He formalized it. Everybody goes to the straight line, every college campus, everyone from Cranberry Island.

I've seen you that bad. want want to be cranberry. I I mean I said more power to you. Get it done. Yeah. You can get it done in the fall, in the spring, go for it. You know, I don't know what the enthusiasm of contractors is right now. Seems like everybody's pretty wound up. But yeah, I wanted to have a little more flexibility in this region than what we had in the original bid. I agree with you. I think it's a relatively simple project. They're going to they're going to pull up the asphalt, dig a little out, fill some in, compact it. I don't think it's worth some bill. I can't see a six months project, right?

They're going to they're going to put fill in, but how much it will be heaved in a couple years. Thanks for thinking about uh where the construction workers are going to park, but they're not going to take the marina spaces. That's that's not the way you suggest it. Is it uh part of the Cranberry Island? Nope. Least lease lots are basically the these two. Yeah. Double rows and then most of this one, right? I think it ends the stairs. Yeah. It's all the stuff that's right in front of the building here. Yeah. Over there by the Eagle L. Yeah, that makes sense. And so this this is the kiosk parking, right? This is kiosk parking.

Okay. And there's a little bit up in this corner. Yeah. Kio parking means they pay to park there. They pay to park, but we're just going to Can we but have kiosk parking in the marina itself to help generate some money for this new We could and the parking committee looked at that, but we could certainly revisit it. It was certainly frowned upon at the time. It was something that we used to do when they were overflowed and you guys decided that you didn't want that happening anymore and we completely ended the process. I thought the parking had been pretty well regulated for the last few years. I haven't seen there any real issues.

I think enforcement is making a difference. Well, yeah, but I I mean seems to be stabilized for the use of the marina. I agree. I see parking spaces more readily. Me, too. Yep. I think a big thing was getting those getting those lines over there by the food trucks. Yeah. So people could That helps. It all helped. Yeah. Whatever we did, it all. You'd see nobody parked there all day. That's true. You know, and now they can see it as a parking. We have one busy morning on Thursdays from the farmers market. Yeah. But that's that Peter's out. That's controllable. Yeah.

No, I think it's been pretty good the last few years. I think so. All right. Any other questions? Go for it. You don't want a question. That's There's a shovel outside. Well, I mean, I don't It's I don't know if it's Bailey. Yeah, it is. It is. And it isn't. Yes. If we disagree with the select man, we don't have anything to say about it. But right now I think we're in agreement. Yeah. So, but I I did want to let you know like what we were thinking about and how we were going to try and the impacts to particularly parking. That was sort of the driver for it is to make sure that

be nice if some guy could come in and get it done by the end of June. That'd be great. It would be great. And I would think that's it would be great. I think once we've got a contractor on board and we start having conversations with them. Think I mean you guys want to make a motion that we approve this plan and encourage it. Let me loosen that load or I can help. help are we do if we don't need to then I think we say I say we should say something purely informative if we're informative and and to hear if you had concerns about what approach yes if it's any help I intend to sit in on that meeting too to really enforce no messing with marina operations no messing with marina operations no messing with marina operations

yeah let's let's leave it that way right now Right. Yeah. Thank you. We have We have faith you guys will do a good job. Keep it. We can leave it all Brian. Yeah. It's all Brian's fault. Yep. What happened this fall? Sharing all this with us. This is really helpful for us just to know what's going on. Somebody this fall to do that or they just You never had a contractor. I thought they were going to dig last fall. You just had one bid. We didn't bid last year because we ended up running out of time. If we would have bid it and asked them to start working on it last fall and then we had the December that we ultimately had. Yeah.

We could have been sitting with a big construction site that was useless all winter long. We This would have been a bad winter to have taken that gamble, right? And so we didn't and we're thankful that we didn't. Yeah. It it all worked out. I mean, there are so many different things. That's why I figured I'd ask you. Yeah. Okay. Want to move on to the pier. We're kind of in a

It's the waiting phase on the pier. The warrant articles have been written. They've been submitted for the town meeting warrant and uh really went over there really isn't much to to discuss until we get town meeting approval and Dartlet and Gorski starts their process and then we'll be more involved. There may be a chance that we might want to pull off a meeting during the summer that we normally wouldn't, but we'll see what happens once we get going. Every day is a Saturday for me.

John, do it someday. Has it been approved for the um warrant committee or whatever it is by the selectman? Like that was the first hurdle. Has that article made it through? Cuz I don't recall seeing it. I could watch. I think it has. Oh, great. Okay, great. Honestly, there's a giant pile of them, but I'm pretty sure that was in there. It was Was that the one of just recently? Because there was a pile just recently and it wasn't in there. Oh, okay. And that's why I'm asking. We were just going through it. Sorry. By the select board at the one we had to do via Zoom, you mean?

No, not that one. the one that the one where uh uh Dane Farm was discussed. Um and Rodney said that he had heard some negative comments from the superintendent previously about Powder Creek. We did a meeting the week before that where we got through a whole bunch of Okay. Okay. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. We just have the two the one for this project and the uh ordinance change. How much we asking for on that for the engineering?

That's 400, but that's with a 15% contingency, which is about $50,000 in contingent money just in case something that's for the planning and the design of everything. And there's money in there for Greg to keep the assistance that you folks wanted between Dartlin Gorski and us. Yes. Yeah. Keep him as a go between. Yes. Right.

Okay. Anything else? Anybody? Good. Motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. Seconded. All in favor raise your hand. Yes. Of course. You're pretty comfortable about that, John.