City Council - Regular Meeting

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Good evening and welcome to the McGomery City Council regular meeting for April 14th, 2026 at 6 p.m. I'd like to call this meeting to order and we have a quorum, Miss Beaven. Uh, with that, I'd like to ask everybody to remind you to turn off your phones so that we are not interrupted during this city business meeting. Put it on silent or vibrate. Do you pray? All right. With that, I'd like to ask Stan Donaldson to give the invocation. Can you please stand? Heavenly Father, we thank you for this evening. Father, we ask you, Father, that uh we put our personal feelings and our personal agendas aside, Father, and do what's right, just, and fair for the citizens of Montgomery. I thank you, Lord, that u we act with integrity, Father, and do what's right in their sight. And Lord, I just pray that you watch over our soldiers and armed forces, Father, as uh they're in harm's way over uh in the Middle East. We thank you, Father, you watch over them and guide them, Father, and help them in every way. And we ask all of these things in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

Amen. All right. Now, the United States flag. Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Now the Texas flag. Honor the Texas flag. I aliance to the Texas one state one and indivisible. First uh up is citizens comments. Item number four. We have several. So I'll call you in order as received. If you would please approach the podium, state your name and your address for the record. That would be most appreciated. Uh first up is Matthew and Emily J. And you requested to speak on agenda items number eight and 10. Would you like to speak now or would you like to wait for them to come up? I will wait till they come up. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Next up is uh number two is Terry Gilmore and she's going to discuss her front yard. Terry, you want to come forward, please? Thank you, ma'am. State your name and the your address.

My name is Terry Gilmore. I live at 123 and Springs Lane. My concern is we originally had a water problem. the water from one side of the road would always come into mine and form trenches. So, I was probably one of those that instigated having a ditch. Really thought that that would solve my problem. However, now that we have the ditch, I don't only have a water problem, but I have a safety problem in my yard. And I really feel that if one of these children are a elder adult like myself, I can't get in my ditch cuz I can't get out because it's this deep and it's narrow. The grass won't stay up on the side because it's so steep. It's just falling down. They didn't put any staples in it, so it completely falls out. My water sprinkler is falling out. But the the worst thing is where the sidewalk is, the water washed the dirt away. So now it's corroding. And I had one of the neighbors come put up a sign with some pink flags, put a board there to keep anybody from walking off. They came out yesterday, dug a little bit out of the ditch across the street from my house, put it there, took all the flags out. So now you let a little 5-year-old child ride their bike cuz we only have sidewalks on one side, that's my side, and they go off, somebody's going to get

a broken arm or a broken leg because it is a safety hazard. So, I have problem with that because it's also ugly. Very ugly. And I don't know how much the city owns of that that ditch. I mean, how much can they take of your yard? I've got this much before you get into my flower bed. I don't know how the fire bed. You can't get in it. The den is 46 in wide and about 36 in deep and that's my so as you know we can't we don't do dialogue however Mr. Walker. Um, and Mike, can we work on

We are still working through that. I mean, it's a known problem and we, you know, we did address the ditch as much as we could. Um, of course, easement is a problem. There's not a lot of room there without going into your yards. But with the engineers, we're trying to put together what it is. We we tried to do that part to start with and we'll see what we can come up with to the water still comes across. I have memories of the last rain. It's so low on this side that it just spills right over.

There's really not a easy fix for any of it. We've shot the grades and we're looking at it and and with the the engineer group WGA, we're we're looking at what the options are. Um,

if we could just fix that before someone gets hurt, that's the main thing because I have kids riding those little powered scooters and if they go off, it's someone's going to get hurt. So, I'm going to be on record that I have warned y'all that someone is going to get hurt and somebody needs to put those caution signs back up. At least that keeps people from, you know, letting their kids maybe or a dog or whatever. So, I appreciate your time and

and as you can see, we've we've continued to come back out. We're we're trying to we knew this wasn't, you know, fix everything. the amount of water that the way the flow is, you know, there's many problems there. It's it's not something new that you're you're problem, but this is worse potentially with easements potentially. We don't know, but we'll continue to communicate with you guys. Uh we still are looking into what what we can do. This was a temporary to try to keep it from going down your driveway, if you will, but uh

yes, we are still looking at it. Yeah. Well, let's just try and make it safe for the kids. That's the most important thing at this point. So, I'm going to put those signs back up so maybe some child won't go off the road. We have joggers that job at night and you walk your dog down there. Don't come on the sidewalk because it's Monday. It's dangerous. Are those your signs, Miss Gilmore, or are those the city signs, the caution signs? Or do we need to There were hours, but Randy came and put them up for me. Uh, and yeah. Okay, I should be able to figure that out. Yeah, I'll figure it out. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. I uh number three, Julie Dennis, please come forward and regarding the ditch. The ditch. Tearing covered most of it. I'm Julie Dennis, 114. Uh when they started digging this ditch, I didn't realize they were putting a canyon in it. It's awful. Terry stood in there the other day. I I was with her to help her get in and out. The water was I mean the water it's almost to her waist. That's how deep that ditch is. Our joke is if we die in the ditch call back. It's that

I know. Yeah. We take pride in our yards. All of us around there take care of our yards. We're picky about them. Uh we spent several thousand dollars on a riding lawnmower. Uh Don loves to ride and mow the grass. Can't do anything with the ditch anymore. Uh we're mature. He can't get down there with the weed eater. It's city. Are y'all going to mow the grass? Yes,

it is an option. Yeah, because we can't do it and why should we have to pay for it to mow that ditch. Um I was going to talk about the safety hazards over at Terry's house with that that drop off. Someone's going to get hurt. It's going to be bad and then I assume the city will be responsible for that when it happens. Um I want to invite all of you over to Anna Springs. come down, park your car, get out, stand on the driveways, and look down and see what we're dealing with. Cuz you know, how are you going to fix this problem? What are you going to do? Why were they allowed to dig so deep? You know, we had drainage. It didn't have to be that deep. I don't know. It's a mess. It's an eyesore and it's a problem. I think it's probably taking some value away from our homes, actually. If I was coming and looking at the house and saw that ditch, I'd move on.

Did we do it or did we have a third party do it? It was a third party. They just took it down to the grade where the We went to the grade where the drainage is. I mean, it I don't know that there's any other choice without redesigning the entire thing. There's probably not a a simple fix for it.

I don't think anything's going to be simple, but I mean, at least we could mow our ditch. We can't do nothing. You can't get down in it. If you try to get down in it, which we haven't, that grass will slide off. It's come off the top and so now we've got dirt on the top. They put it up once. I've seen them come out twice and water, but um it's dangerous. It's bad. So, I'd like to have something done with it. I mean, it would have been nice to have a cover all the way down or something instead of having that cover up. where we can mow it in books because like I said, I think it's hurt our values. Thank you all.

Thank you, Miss Looked. I have seen. Thank you. Um item number four, Mr. TJ Wilkerson, please.

Good evening, council, mayor, administrative chief. Uh I'm here 77 712 I think 10day that I live and I just want to thank the mayor and Sheriff Fox and Sister Langley and the chief for coming out to our community meeting last night and I'm here to invite everybody out on April the 22nd. Next Wednesday at 9:00 we are unveiling got a state historical marker from the state of Texas honoring one of the state representatives that right after the civil war man he represented Montgomery County and Harris County and they uh dedicated one of the mark some of the first black state representatives during reconstruction from 1865 to 1873 and just so happened a guy came out of this area because the church down in my side I started out at the D Creek building and since and we going to have a ceremony unveiling the thing. One thing about our cemetery is one of the few around that's going to have three historical markers in it and and and that's going to be uh uh exciting and then we're working on the fourth one. So we looking forward to that. If I'm talking about the cemetery, I would ask one of the u uh council members, uh city administrators step forward, help with us and getting uh water in that cemetery. We've been working on that since 22 and it seemed like it's dormant and we're trying to get it there. We want to make the place a beautiful place that people can uh be proud of. You know, I hear people in the hallway tell people that when you come to Montgomery, the only place to to go after you leave Montgomery is helping people dying to get there. So, we do help us get the water out here. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Wilkerson. Always good information. All right. Next item on the agenda is your consent agenda. Item number five, consideration possible action on the city council workshop meeting minutes of March 23rd, 2026. Item number six, consideration of possible action on the city council meeting minutes of March 24th, 2026, which the corrected minutes are here in your um in front of you, council. And number seven, consideration and possible action on a resolution of the city council, the city of McGomery, Texas, to repeal resolution number 202541. And the uh corrected attachment to that is also in front of you, council. We can take these cumulatively or individually. What is your pleasure?

Individually. Yes, sir. Carve out number seven. Okay. So, are you making are you wanting to go ahead and approve five and six together? Yes. Okay. Is that a motion? I'll second that. Okay. Motion by Mr. Donaldson that we take numbers item five and six together. Seconded uh by Mr. Glazier. This motion is debatable, amendable, requires majority vote. It's open for discussion. All those in favor of taking items five and six cumulatively say I.

Those opposed say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries and we accept item number five and six on the consent agenda. Item number seven, consideration of possible action on a resolution of the city council of the city of Montgomery, Texas to repeal resolution number 202541.

See what this question. I've mentioned this before um but again I want to state it publicly. I don't agree with anything that has to do with taking away the citizens right to know what's going on in government. Our government is a public uh entity and the citizens have every right to be able to get online and find out what our council is doing and find out why they're doing it. this resolution will take away your ability to do that with any kind of ease. You know that I consider what we do in this council meeting to be part of the history of this city. And uh and it's hard to look at a a consent agenda and be able to tell what exactly is behind it without digging into the specifics of that agenda item. And also this came up because some company uh was supposedly they somebody took uh an invoice that we had publicized on our website and they took it and and committed fraud with it with a company by issuing a similar invoice. Now, I don't know about y'all, but I don't think it's a city's responsibility to take care of other companies mishaps. You know, I can't help it if they don't have their cyber security in place or they don't have their accounting department, their accounts payroll department be able to catch a sim a duplicate. That's not our problem. And I don't think it's our problem to solve. And this is what we're trying to do is help somebody else. But at the same time, it's costing us communication with thei uh city citizens and u you know I just don't think it's right to make it more difficult for the people to find out what we're doing. You know,

we talk about transparency and accountability and this is not it. This this is going to take away the ease it is to go online and find out what we're doing. And that's my main complaint with it and I'm going to vote against it. This is actually reversing that. Yeah. Yeah. Let me explain this to Stan because extremely confused.

So Stan, we passed that resolution that you're that you're that you're talking about and that is the resolution 202541. This is to reverse that resolution and create a public packet. So everything that you would like to happen, you need to vote yes because that will happen. We're putting it back. We're only taking out the the data that is questionable like account numbers and all the stuff that they were stealing. But the general information is still going to be there for the public. It's a public packet minus the questionable thing. Not questionable, that's not the right word.

Sensitive data. sensitive data. There's a better word. Yes. And it did come from us. It wasn't the companies that that did it. It was somebody that came into our packet. They were stealing the data that we were putting out there is what was happening. So, we were putting out information that, hey, this company is doing business with the city. Here's all their information. Da da da da. People were grabbing that up from what we were exposing them to. So, we're collecting them. Yes. Yes. So, we We originally removed it so until a solution on how to block it as council be well I stand

a thousand% that this is a repealing it though. Yeah. This is not supporting doing that I missed it. I'm sorry. Cuz we agree with you saying we've updated our software and now it allows us to cleanly pull out the data that that is sensitive and still have a public facing packet that doesn't have that information that that we don't want to give out. We don't want to give, you know, vendors names, address, account numbers of our own, our checking numbers, you know, all those things that used to be in there. That's what this is. This is still gonna so the public facing I changed my vote. We didn't get a motion. I have the opportunity to change,

but we'll let you make the motion if you'd like. I make a motion that we pass agenda item number seven that I previously didn't want to pass. Motion by Mr. Donaldson that we approve. Back on track with everybody else. I'm I'm in agreement. Approve item number seven. I second that. Seconded by uh Mr. Blaze or Miss Fox. All those in favor accepting item number seven is presented say I. I. Those opposed say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries. And the Donaldson number seven is done.

All right. Public hearing. City council will receive comments from the public on the uh below listed items. Speakers will be limited to three minutes each. Persons wishing to participate speak during the public hearing portion of the meeting must sign in to participate prior to the meeting being called to order. Item number eight, convene in the public hearing on a request for a special use permit to establish a new coffee shop at 15325 Summit Park Drive, Sweet 109. It is 6:20 and we will uh head into public hearing. I this time, Mr. Matthew and Emily Jay, would you like to come forward?

Good evening. I'm Matthew Jay and this is my wife, Emily J. We're the owners of Crossroads Coffee and we've made this petition for a special use permit to be awarded to us for sweet 109 at 15 325 Summit Park. What we're trying to do is bring a new craft coffee shop into the industrial park area. And the entire area is exploding, growing, and it's only going to continue to do so with probably another, in my estimate, 800 homes coming in within about a mile and a half of every direction. So, this business will bring in lots of revenue. It's also going to help attract further businesses to fill out those void and empty office suites that we see in the industrial district. Um, with that in mind, uh, we applied for a 10-year permit is what we're asking for. And the reason why we're going for so long is because we're building out a restaurant, a coffee shop. And the investment to actually bring that into fruition is about a half a million dollars. We're not putting in a consulting firm or a retail shop, you know, we're actually having to make irreversible permanent changes to the building. It it's always going to be a coffee shop after it's built out. That's never going to change. The operator may change, but it will always be a coffee shop. And it's capital heavy as all coffee shops are to bring that to fruition. And so we are working through a Small Business Administration loan. It's a 10-year loan and we need the permit to match the duration of the loan and we're actually we have an option to bring this lease of ours out to 15 years in total duration. So we're coming and we plan to be here in the area for quite a long time and happy to do so.

Great news. Good deal. What brought you to McGomery? Actually for the growth. So we came here uh ahead of this to you know position ourselves for both the coffee shop and future ministry activities. So, we're also wanting to plant a church in the area as well. So, that's part of our vision for the city of Montgome. Lovely. Awesome. I remember what what your hour your hours going to be. I was looking through your I remember them. I guess they're were longer than normal.

Yes, that's correct. Yeah. Coffee shop is not uh you know a accounting firm or something like that where you only see 9 to5 kind of hours. So, we're wanting to have the flexibility of being able to operate from say 6:00 a.m. to all the way up to maybe 8:00 p.m. in the evening some, you know, and that's uh we may not always utilize all those hours, but uh from what we're initially planning, we're realistically probably going to operate 6:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. with occasional uh a few times a month activities up to 8:00 p.m., you know, as far as closing time, live music and such. And and you are aware that this does not include a drive-thru this permit request.

Yes, that's correct. That was never our vision. The building doesn't suit it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Cool. Very good. Welcome. Thank you. Welcome, McGomery. Appreciate it. Make a motion to Nintend.

Okay. Uh with that, it is 6:24. We will close this public hearing. Number nine on your agenda, convening a public hearing on request for a special use permit to establish a new nail salon at 15 325 Summit Park Drive, Sweet 106. It is 624. We will commute into public hearing. No one is here to speak. Go ahead. Come on in. Sorry, it's my first time doing this. My name is Fabian and this is my wife. Hi.

She's going to be the operator of the small salon. She's been doing this for quite a while years. So, she's been working out of a smaller space and uh we've been saving the money to to grow and finally uh this opportunity came to our table to rent the space here in Montgomery. Uh and we have to apply for a special use permit just like uh Matthew because we're going to be basically neighbors. So, are you down there on Pill Road? Yes. You're very famous. Okay. I know you are. So, yes. So we hopefully uh we can you know get this going

and asking for your sale. Great. Thank you so much for being here. We appreciate anyone else. Are you going to speak? You I'm their engineer. I'm I'm here to answer any technical questions. Okay. Wonderful.

Is there anyone else? It is 6:25 and we will close this public hearing. Regular agenda item number 10 on your agenda. Consideration of possible action regarding request for a special use permit by Matthew and Emily J in partnership with Stretch Construction Group to establish a new coffee shop at 15325 Summit Park Drive Suite 109. Miss Tilly.

Good evening. So this is for the new coffee shop at 15325 Summit Park Drive sweet 109. It was originally two suites, but it is now just um one suite. This property is located in the industrial district. If you look on the industrial district table or uses, a property is not listed as a permitted use. It's actually first permitted in the commercial district. So, what the special use permit allows is for the planning and zoning commission, city council to take a look at this and see if you can um permit by special use this um type of outreach. There are listed a few conditions that the planning and zoning commission were recommending. If you want to modify any of them, there's hours of operation, the term of the special use permit, they're all listed on there. If you want to modify any of them, you definitely can modify them, but that's the recommendation of the planning and zoning commission. Um, one specific note, if you look at the letter from the planning and zoning commission, the vote did come in 3 to one. The one that objected to this or said no to it was um commission member Walker and her issue was the 5year as opposed to 10ear special needs.

Meaning she wanted 5 years not 10. Yes, she requested 5 years. What's the reason for that? The reason was that she'd like to still be able to get the opportunity to re-evaluate after 5 years. But it was it was a pass. It was pass. Yep. Um quick question for um for you. Do we have other commercial bee in that area? Other commercial uses? Yeah. in that industrial district.

In the in the industrial district, there are other commercial uses in the industrial district at this time and they went through the same process we're doing now. No, they were not long before. Yeah. Um the other question is so we have commercial property though as right in the area. We we do have commercial property. Um, I'm trying to think of what might be vacant as a new commercial because I think we're all occupied right across the street on 1097. You got the gas station, the donuts, the liquor shop.

It's all it's all occupied. So, I guess what I'm trying to get at here is what I want to avoid is someone using industrial property to get around the taxes and stuff that come with commercial property. So um yeah, we we don't want to use the government to give someone an unfair advantage. So if there is available commercial property, then we need to make sure we've included that. But other than that, I don't have well is there a tax burden and or loss for the city? If that's the case, can it be reszoned part of that industrial area commercial that one building if that's what we need to look at or are they taking advantage as you say on the cost breakdown?

Well, commercial property is taxed differently than industrial, agricultural or residential, right? They all have their own tax break. So, um, yeah, I just want to make sure that we're not allowed cuz now we have two businesses doing that, but they're generating tax revenue, too. Where sometimes, if I might if I might jump in there, there would not be a difference in the tax rates. Um, if if anything, it would be how the appraisal district assesses them, but they ought,

which is ultimately a gigantic difference in tax rate, right? Well, they they should do the assessment based on the actual use, not the zoning designation. So So if the property is being used as commercial, the assessment should be done as commercial. Okay. Now, I can't you feel comfortable with that? I can't guarantee you, but they do, but that's that's how they should do it. Don't we get that report once a year from the summit business part? We do. Well, we do, Maryanne. But don't we Isn't that expired? Is that expired yet? No. Okay. No, we get that report.

Yeah, we get the report on the tax and it may get a portion. I thought it went by the types of business. So, this particular property is part of Summit Park which is pine. So it is I have not uh looked at that um before this meeting but this property is a part of the pit. So I'm not sure what the implication of that would yes we do have somebody that comes from coastro talk to you about that. Um, so I don't know. I I don't know what this impact. True.

I think it's good for the city, both of them. No, I think that both are great. Like I said, I just don't want unfair advantage to someone who's trying to invest in commercial property. I go across the street by industrial less. So, are we deciding tonight if we're going to pass the special use permit? Yes. Yes. Are we going to change the table that says what the uses can be? Anytime somebody wants to rent from that space that's not on the table, they need a special use. I mean, if it's not within the industrial list. Yeah, that's correct. Okay. Yeah. Yes.

So, keep in mind you asked a question about reszoning. We have very very little very very few industrial properties in the city by changing it to commercial. And my city wouldn't be the whole thing. I just don't know what part of this industrial area is. It just one building will be tied to commercial where the rest could stay. And again, I'm just basing it off what my my partner here is saying. Um just something to consider. I'm all for the businesses. I I would love great to see it. They have great 10-year plan. They want to be here for a long time. That's fantastic. I just bringing up, you know, for that zoning just so the city's not taken advantage of like you said.

All good. All right. Thank you. I'll make a motion to accept the request for a special use permit by Matthew and Emily J as presented. A motion by Miss Langley that we accept the request for a special use permit by Matthew and Emily J as presented. Seconded by Miss Fox. This motion is debatable, amendable, requires majority vote. It is open for discussion. All those in favor of accepting the request for a special use permit by Matthew and Emily J say I. I.

Those opposed say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries and we will accept the request for a special use permit by Matthew and Emily J as requested. Thank you very much. Item number 11, consideration and possible action regarding request for a special use permit by Nails by N by Nichol Nikki LLC to establish a new nail salon at 15325 Summit Park Drive, Sweet 106. Miss Tilly,

so this location is in the same building. uh similar change uh it's a commercial use in an industrial zoning district and in the mail supply is not listed in that industrial table. It's listed first listed in the commercial table. Um again there's a list of conditions that the planning and zoning commission uh has recommended for this property or for this business. You can modify it the way it's written, but otherwise this did pass recommended approval that members

and this was for five years, right? Well, both of them were based on whether there's a change in ownership or change in business operations. This one here did not specifically Well, it did. Yeah, it does. This one here. The other one did not specifically say the No, it says 10. 10 years. I said 10. And then if there was a business change or business owner

change on the record, same concern. Um, other than that, Make a motion to accept item number 11. Motion by Mr. Olson that we accept item number 11 as presented. I'll second. Seconded by Mr. Glazier. This motion is debatable, amendable, requires majority vote. It's open for discussion. All those in favor accepting item number 11 as presented say I. I.

Those opposed say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries. We'll accept item number 11 as presented. McGomery number 12. Consideration possible action on request for a signed variance of the entry sign for the Legacy Grove development. Miss Chile,

good evening again. This is for the entry sign that you would see on for Legacy Grove off of Lonear Parkway. So, as you're traveling, I guess norththeast on Lonear Parkway. Um you'll see it to your right. Again, Legacy Grove is uh being constructed by Trioint Homes. Landology applied for this sign variance for Trioint Homes. The total surface area of this sign is 896 ft. You'll see a picture of that sign. Most of the sign is the actual it's wall short wall that is going to that the actual sign is going to be attached to. The proposed maximum height is 7 ft 10 in which is below our maximum requirement for a sign height. So what you'll be looking at here is the size variance of the total surface area of 832 square ft. And again, no height variance is needed because we fell below our um 8 foot maximum height requirement. And the reason for this request for the size of the sign is its distance from Lonear Parkway. And then the elevation also onto Lonear Parkway. It would be easier to see um with people passing by Lonear Parkway. So 45 miles an hour up to 50 miles an hour. Sometimes it helps to have that large signage there. And hopefully

so this is different that they had already we had already approved one before not for legacy grow try point sorry thinking like we did the priorly one that no we did the one on park the tri the Taylor what I was thinking yeah okay it's It's pretty little picture's pretty little. I'm assuming it has some sort of lights. Yes, there'll be ground lighting that will light up to it. Landscaping.

Tilly, is it going to look like more of that picture that's colored on 61 in the top left corner? Yes. Yes. Is that a white brick or is that like a stucco? Is that material more like it? Yes. Sorry. Plants and or the trees. Well, the landscaping might not be exact at this time. We're still in the review process of the landscaping, but yes, it's really

Okay. And is that the actual rendering or just something similar? Is this what they plan on doing or are they just doing this for size to show us an example? Just to show the size, the location. Uh this isn't exact. Uh when you look at the plants, it's more exact. You see that it's more wavy and then it looks like well that's on the other side. That's two tiers. This would be one tier. What about the structure that's on the other side of the street? It doesn't have their name on it,

right? It doesn't have a name on it, so it's not considered a sign. It just has a picture of some pine trees on it. I guess it's their logo, their brand. So, what if they decide to put their name on it? What do we do? Well, then we call it a sign. Then we'll have to review it. Yes. Thank you. Make a motion to accept item number 12 as presented. Motion by Mr. Olson that we accept item number 12 as presented. Second. Seconded by Miss Langley. This motion is debatable, amenable, requires majority vote. It's open for discussion. All those in favor accept item number 12 as presented. Say I. I.

Those oppos say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries and we'll accept item number 12 as presented. 13 on your agenda has been pulled. Item number 14, consideration possible action on the partial reflat number one for Redbird Meadows, more recently known as Brierly section 3, development number 20006.

Good evening. Uh starting on page 70 of your packets, we'll see a copy of letter from us uh followed by the replay. So in short what this is between sections of Ryerson they have added in are their reestab lights lines and so they're adding about 2300 ft to two lots in total 2300 ft one 800 ft to another and one of the sections I know I was told it was by city administration we require before we move on to Brent, excuse me.

Item number 13, you said it's Yes. There we're still in legal discussions on their development agreement that they're working on. So, it does really make sense to go into payment plans for that until we get those cleared up. We had a meeting the other day about this. So, thank you. I mean, you're you're welcome to have any discussion with them you would like to, but it's a little hard to go into a payment plan discussion without getting the development agreement cleared up.

So, yes, you're you're welcome to talk to Jack if you would like to. We're here. So, I mean, do we want to go back to 13 or what do we want to do? Because we have to have something that was about Well, there's a discussion agenda item right here. So, that's all the reason I need Oh, I understand. But I was told it was pulled prior to the meeting, so that's what I did. Yeah. So, I guess I'm I'm confused. Um, we can bring it back once I guess the legal is done with it, but I'm confused why there's legal adjustments.

So, so there's two issues going on. I mean there's one a discussion over um the extent of the road work that is anticipated by the development agreement. It it doesn't seem to be all clear. Um so so that's the issue that we're talking about aside from this item. This item is separate regardless of what that dollar amount is. I think they are asking that there be some sort of payment plan as to how they fund that dollar amount. Do you want to talk? Can I talk about it a little bit or

Well, so hold on. I was told to pull it. We don't have it on here. Um, we do have it on here, but I was told to pull it. Do council, do we go back or it's discussion only, so there's no That's true.

Okay. So there there's no I have no objection to council hearing from them and talking about it. Um you know I think the the staff's thought was that since we haven't reached agreement on the exact dollar amount then perhaps it's a little premature to talk about how to fund that. But they are in a way two separate issues. So yeah I yeah there's I guess the issue that I have is we voted on development statement which is what we agreed to any variance from that is null employee so which we agree with and if you remember

so yes let me go ahead and hold check let me let me go ahead and start this off and then then we'll go forward okay so instead of going to 14 we're going to go back up to item number 13 on your agenda. Discuss discussion on BCS capital payment installment and funding plan for the utility and roadway project development number 2415. All right. Now we are officially on the record for this. All right. So

we can talk through that. That's just more of like a dotting eyes and crossing tees on the logistics case on how the money flows based on timing. Yeah, originally we're just trying to get out there that, you know, we try to pursue a monthly payment plan for the roadway and the utility improvements, and we're proposing doing a 50% upfront and then at 50% completion funding the rest. And what does the development agreement say? The development agreement says uh at when the bid is awarded, I can't or the bid when the bid is awarded. So whenever that might be for both projects, I believe it's late May.

Yeah. So the way that that the development agreement is written like the rest of them is when the project is publicly bid, you will award the project with their concurrence, they will put up the funds plus a contingency and then that is what the city pulls from to pay the contractor, right? That's how the agreement's currently written. Yeah. And so we're trying to deviate that and go to payment plan. We're just trying to split that into two separate payments rather than all up front. Correct. our development agreement says it is one plan and one payment up front. That's that's really less important. I mean, at the end of the day, that helps us, but I mean, we're not sitting here. This was in a couple months. Correct.

So, but and I get that, but if we have an agreement in place, like we we say, "Okay, we'll go ahead and go with the playment plan." We have other development agreements that if we hold them feet to the fire, too. And so, if we don't, that's why we have an agreement. If we have an agreement, this is how we're going to act and do. And speaking on that, since it's kind of a global discussion, our attorneys having to get involved on what has been very clear. And Casey, you remember cuz when we we met, you were pushing back because you're like, we should have pushed to fund the CB Stewart section of the church. Yeah. But you chose not to. So, we chose and voted on this section from 10, right? But now they're trying to come back saying we got to do that. And it's like, guys, that's a retra. It's very clear in the docs. So that's why

that's the problem that's occurring. We're fine with what we we agreed to. It's just additional scope is being put on right now.

If we want to get into this discussion tonight, you know, we can. So that's why kind of in this we had so we were made aware that there is a discrepancy in their opinions on the scope of the roadway project. So um we had a call yesterday. It was very clear that uh we are on very different sides of it. And so the call ended yesterday with a request for time for the city attorneys to review and we have a review meeting on Monday to talk about the terms of development in general because again I don't want to go too far off of what is on the agenda. The the roadway portion of this project there was a statement in there that the final scope was based on the the findings of the geotechnical analysis and traffic impact analysis. And so that was completed. that came back to y'all in the BCS in December said, "Here is a summary of how we got here. Here's how the scopes have changed from phase one that didn't include the 6 acres to the entirety of the project and all of it with a revised scope and fee and estimated cost." And so that included took away any roundabout improvements or kind of abnormal intersection improvements. It was concrete from uh where Home Depot ends to just north of CB Stewart and concrete of all of CB Stewart from 105 to Buffalo Springs. So that was what was in that packet that cost the center. So that is where the disagreement is. Even though that was what was presented approved by council provided to BCS, that's what the deposit was based on uh that they made for the roadway improvements. There is now a um discussion and disagreement that anything north of CB Stewart is or CL excuse me is included. So where it left off was attorneys are taking a chance to review both the 380 and the development agreement for us to regroup on Monday and then come back to council once the attorneys are

because there's email receipts going back. I mean when we went back to it it was going to be a $5.2 $2 million number if we were going to pay the north side. You remember this space. That was the whole that was like the big business item. So where we're frustrated is it's like guys this was a massive business point to make the deal work and how are we going back and trying to reframe this? So how much can we talk about that beyond the payment plan? Well that you really can't talk about that issue. They're two different issues. So I don't disagree. We need to figure that out. We can Yeah, that's fine. We'll talk about But that's why I wanted to come tonight is just to like look at everybody that we cut to deal with and say, "Absolutely."

Yeah. All right. Cool. But to be clear, regardless of how that turns out, are you still asking for a payment plan? Look, we we we will give the way of pay or get the timing is becoming such to where the penny plan is when it was in April. There was a major delay in when things are going to be when we could actually start construction. We're like, hey, let's look at this practically. We don't want money just sitting there burning doing nothing for everybody. We're now point. Okay, get going. We're ready. Very good.

Thank you. Thank you. All right. Item 14, consideration and possible action on the partial reflat number one for Redberg Meadows, more recently known as Briley section 3 development 2006. All right, I will restart. I don't remember where I left. Yes, please do.

So, council previously approved section 3 Redbird Meadows now for those lots. Since then, EPS have been continuing their land planning. They found some additional uh square footage they want to put into those lots and take away from a detention pond. So, it's putting about 2,800 ft in one lot, 800 ft² to another. It increases the size of those backyards. Uh, so if you look on page, sorry I lost my decreases seven to eight of your packets,

right? Taking from a reserve and putting into kind of an odd job they're straightened out. So if you look on page 78 of your packet, there's a hatched area that is what's getting added to those ones. Ah, okay. So overall it's not a substantial change but per rule to come back to PNZ did review this they approved it for hours what they can see so we recommend approval so whoever buys those lots builds on that then that becomes their property

correct it'll be so those lots are still owned by the developer they have not sold those lots so they want to obviously before they sell it and do the reot and so when they sell those homes that will part of the property will buy. That sounds great. 2004 2000 acres. I make a motion to accept item number 14 as motion by Mr. Olson that we accept item 14 as presented. Second. Seconded by Mr. Donaldson. This motion is debatable. Amen. Cross majority vote. It's open for discussion. All those in favor accepting item number 14 as presented say I. I.

Those opposed say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries and we'll accept item number 14 as presented. 15 on your agenda. consideration of possible action authorizing the city administrator to sign the consent to encroachment by and between the city of Montgomery and the developer Trioint Homes Texas Inc. for the Legacy Grove development development number 249. Okay. Uh so this is related to items three items ago regarding the signage. So again try point where they're putting these are in conflict with some easements. It's normal it happens. Uh so what this does as we've approved before is a encroment and maintenance agreement that allows for the installation of tree shrubs, ground cover, irrigation, lighting, sidewalks, etc. uh within the rightway and easements. Uh the cities shall not incur any additional cost for maintaining those improvements as well as if the city makes any repairs on the owner to remove, replace etc. uh those improvements. So, uh, pretty straightforward agreement. It's like it's your standard. Again, it takes the additional landscape improvements and puts the ownerous or the onus on the developer for maintaining, operating, etc. City has to repair line. It's not on the city to

make a motion to accept item number 15 as presented. Motion by Mr. Olsson that we accept item number 15 as presented. Second by Mr. Glazier. This motion is debatable, amendable, requires majority vote. It's open for discussion. All those in favor accepting item number 15 as presented say I. I. Post say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries and we'll accept item 15 as presented. 16 on your agenda. Consideration of possible action. Authorizing WGA to complete construction phase services on the demolition of the Town Creek wastewater treatment plant.

Right. uh in your packet you'll see a copy of a memo from us describing the uh bidding and demolition uh project for the California wastewater plant. So just in regards the timing of the plant project we want and also the the demo we have a lot more demo contractors than specialized wastewater plant contractors. So bidding out the demolition first is what is in here. Uh the estimated cost for the demo is around 900 1.1 million uh 900 990,000 to 1.1 million uh for that cost of demo work. So what's in your packet as a proposal from us to do the bidding. So what half is providing is they're providing all the plans and technical specifications for their contract. Uh we provide the front end documents and bid form to publicly bid the project. We will then work with the city to advertise that paper, meet all the the required bidding requirements of the state and then administer the contract. So, uh oversee construction uh we have inspectors on site. It also includes materials testing, RFI, change orders, pay estimates, all the contract administration uh that goes with it. As far as timeline goes, uh once we're authorized, those plans are complete and we're just waiting on the technical specs. Uh we expect to be having it in the paper in about two weeks uh to have construction starting in June to get the demo going and that lines up with their finalizing of the construction plans to then bid out the full plan project after that.

And then once that's bid and how long do we think it's going to be to re 60 days. So it's about a 45 days for to prepare the package and do bids. So advertises for two weeks. We have a pre-IP meeting law. 30 days to do the contracts and then construction's about 60. So conceivably before the end of the year.

Oh, for the demo for sure. So the goal is to have the to award and I don't have in front of me to be awarding the wastewater plant project in July. And so the actual construction so this is finishing up while we're finishing up the contracts for the wastewater plant project and then moving forward with it. And then if you look on one page behind uh you'll see a copy of that demo plan. So it's it's taking out all the existing equipment minus station that's obviously still being used. That'll be demoed with the full project. Uh parading the site so it's ready to go for the the waste plant contractors to move on and start construction. This is all funded out of the cos that y'all just closed on.

How what the cos that y'all just closed on last month in February. Thank you for saying that. Sorry.

I'll make a motion to uh approve as as noted. Motion by Mr. Glazer that we approve item number 16 as presented. I second. We would like to take that. Okay. Seconded by Mr. Olsen. This motion is debatable, amendable, requires majority vote. It's open for discussion. All those in favor of accepting item number 16 as presented say I. I.

Those opposed say nay. The eyes have the motion carries and we'll accept item number 16 as presented. 17 on your agenda. consideration of possible action on calling a public hearing on a resoning request related to the 5.7 acres of a western portion of Riggsby Ben J track 46H-3 and all of Riggsby Vin J track 39 currently zoned B commercial to be reszoned I institutional is submitted by SPT Montgomery LLC development number 2215 this is the church yes There's no one here to discuss.

I can introduce it if you want me to.

The so this is the church. Uh so currently so superior properties is the development on Lonear Parkway uh between the community center and 149. So there's three components to the project. There's the multif family component which is the western bus. The middle component which during feasibility that was assumed to be more of a mini storage warehouse or development and then a commercial development along the skinny piece that backs up to signs. Uh so what this is is they have since identified and have a church that is looking to develop that middle portion of the property. And so this is the action I have to call in public hearing for that reasoning of the property.

So that actually comes back that warehouse and everything that middle tract. So what the the two dead ends of Simon and Wson this is where that track will okay. They're still not connecting. That's not changing. The access is still off of 149 Lar. Yeah. So that those roads will still be that doesn't change. Are they still construction roads? There was they were going to allow construction traffic through there. Uh we haven't seen any plans for the trucks, but we would push that they would go off Lar Parkway. Okay. Lonear Parkway. This is just a call for the public hearing. This is just a call for the public hearing. That is correct.

Right. Okay. So, we need to set a public hearing notifications. Oh. Oh, it is in the

notifications were already sent out the publication. So, it's April 28 that it's set for So that's just a dis action. If you already sent out the the notifications, then there's an assumed public hearing. Okay. So I guess I'll make the a motion for the public hearing.

You already stay slated to the hearing. I'll make a motion for the public hearing to reszone uh 5.7 acres of track 46H3 from commercial to institutional set for April 28th at McGomery City Hall at 6 p.m. Motion by Mr. Olen and second Miss Fox that we call for a public hearing on a rezoning request landed related to 5.7 acres of a western portion of track uh of the rigspeed bin J tract 46H3 that's currently zoned B commercial to be reszoned I institutional on April 28th at city hall 101 Old Plannersville Road at 6 pm. All those in favor say I. Hi.

Can I ask a question? Oh, absolutely. Discussions to be a man. President discussion the one time I don't ask you discussion. The one say I know um the letters have already gone out. Yes.

Yes. The letters are required before the planning and zoning commission even met that. And can you verify that someone on Lawson Street got their letter? Because everybody around there got a letter, but she didn't. And this is the second time that we've sent out letters that she has not gotten her letter. She has a water bill and that's where she gets her mail at. So,

so when notifications are sent out, it's based on the Montgomery County Appraisal District addresses. So, if that address isn't correct anymore, you don't use the according to the way the appraisal districts. Okay. I can verify it's been mailed should be the last name should be hatchet address but I didn't know the letters had gone out yes they go out um before the planning ends on the commission I don't have it with me give that to Miss Tilly

yes I can get it to you but yeah okay it must be what she's talking Yeah. Okay. So, somebody asked to explain that to me. How can a letter for a public hearing go out before the public hearing is set and approved? So, I'm assuming that if we had said this will happen in October that you would have to recamp those letters. So, again, the letter goes out for the planning and zoning commission. A publication goes out for city council. So,

okay. the when the planning and zoning commission had their meeting, we scheduled it on their agenda and we notified the neighbors that this is when um it was going to be discussed at the planning and zoning commission. Got it. Okay.

And if PNZ already met, did I get a copy of their what they had sent? Yes. No. Well, since this is just the call for public hearing, I don't know if the whole packet has it, but the final recommendation by the planning and zoning commission should be in that packet. I I don't know what because it's just the call for it would actually go into the part of the packet that has when you actually consider it and discuss it. Okay,

I can get that to you. Did they just consider it last week? That's why in the packet the reason Yeah. Right. The reason that there's nothing in your packet is that this the P&Z met last week. Agenda has drove before. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So, we discussed it before the vote. So, we have a first and a second. Correct? Yes.

Okay. All those in favor of calling a public hearing on a reasonzoning request related to related to 5.7 acres of a western point of risby bin J track 6 46H3 that's currently zoned B commercial to be reszoned I institutional and the public hearing to be called on April 28th at 6 pm at 101 Old Plannersville Road City Hall say I.

I. Those opposed say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries and we will call for that public hearing for the reszoning request of the 5.7 acres track 46H3 to be resone from B commercial to I institutional on April 28th at 6 p.m. City Hall. Item number 18, consideration possible action on calling a public hearing on a reszoning request related to one acre of tracks 11 and 12. John Corner survey abstracting eight currently zoned R1 residential to be reszoned I institutional submitted by Cornerstone Community Church in Montgomery development number 2510.

All right. So very similar to the last item in terms of what we're doing. This is calling the public hearing for the reszoning. So, Cornerstone is expanding and purchase properties to the north of them and so they're requesting to reszone those properties out institutional like the rest of the church site is. Uh so, same thing I assume the notices went out for PNZ. Uh they have called the public hearing and so the public hearing and would be on April the 28th here at city hall. In your packets, you'll see a copy of the resoning request followed by exhibit showing the existing and proposed zoning that just extends that in I institutional under what is now R1. I'll make a motion to call a public hearing for the reszoning of tracks 11 and 12 of the corn survey abstract 8 for April 28th at city hall Montgomery Texas at 6 p.m.

Motion by Mr. Rston that we call for a public hearing on a reser request related to tracks 11 and 12 the John survey abstract 8 from residential to I institutional on April 28th at 6 p.m. at 101 Old Plannersville Road Montgomery city city hall second seconded by Mr. Donaldson. This motion is debatable, amendable, requires majority vote. It's open for discussion. My discussion is um with the reszoning, there's a there's drainage and all those studies going buffers and all of that,

right? So resoning has nothing to do with their requirement for plan approval. So they're expanding the building. They'll have to submit plans both for building code and interior because they're perfect area. We we know that there complaints passed. regarding those properties to the east in Buffalo. Very interested in how we can help mitigate some of this. Yeah, because the work that he's already done has made a mess in those same people's backyards that were just here. That's correct. Yes. There's been a lot of correspondence with Okay. Okay. All those in favor

say I. I. I. Those opposed say nay. The eyes have it. The motion carries and move call for the public hearing and resone request related to tracks 11 and 12. The John John Corner survey abstract 8 currently reszoned zoned commercial reseroning I institutional on April 28th 6 p.m. at city hall 101 planners bill. Staff comments and reports. Number 19. City Administrator report. Mr. Walker,

I thought I'd just give you a quick update um because this is what you're going to be seeing in the next meeting on the 28th. Um we've gone through the request for qualifications for all the construction managers at risk. We've gone through that. We've scored it and we've selected three. Uh on Thursday, we will interview those three. Um we will take all the notes and get everything together. there. We'll compile it for all you guys. We'll try to get that out as soon as possible after we kind of compile those things. So, you'll have plenty of time before the 28th to review that. On the 28th, we'll have those three companies do a 10-minute presentation here in front of the council. And later that day, we'll or we can do it all timing wise, but we'll go into executive session so we can discuss that. Um and then hopefully select a construction manager at that point.

So that's exciting. It is exciting. Did you get 12 12 12? 12 I believe was the money's 12. And uh

also coming up u just to tell you some stuff that's coming uh economic development wise. I know that most of you have noticed the missing trees downtown. Uh, and I get it. It It looks funny. Not not nice funny, but yeah, it looks different. Um, the next EDC meeting, we're going to bring that. Some of you are in the EDC. We're going to bring the entire project to you. Uh, hopefully we can approve that project. We can go through the process, get the council approval. It will be for the full Macau project to include those lots down there. We originally, you know, had some issues with the project and we did a few things and we staged it out, but moneywise, we're going to be right back to where we were doing the entire length of McGawan. We're not going to do parts of it. So, really, we've saved money. Uh the community center and whatever we do there, that'll be stage a different stage. We'll attack that after we get the road done. So you guys will be seeing that and doing the readings and all that and create that project very shortly.

Awesome. Great. Sounds great. Good job. Is there someone you would like to introduce? Oh, well, yes. Miss Kimberly, our new assistant director of economic development. You want to say a few words, ma'am? Speech or anything? I actually will. There you go.

Good evening, mayor and council members. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you to Brent as well. I've been in public service for about nine years now. I've been in the city, been with a a pretty large county and I'm excited to tackle economic development for Montgomery. I believe that the city is at a really pivotal point. There's a lot of opportunity and I am so excited to work with all of you. I'll be reaching out in the next month or so um to schedule individual meetings with each of you to get a better feel for your priorities and what you would like to see for the future at the city. So, love it. Will you be added as a departmental report?

Yes. Well, yeah. We'll probably do that um as she gets control of the EDC meetings. I'm going to let her do that and then she'll bring that meeting to you just kind of like I did but more detailed hopefully. Awesome. Welcome. Anything else, Mr. Walker? Got it. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. You want some bad news though before I Sure. So, we really thought we had 213 uh sold that company pulled out today. Good to know because I think that there's some other interest.

There's some interest. you know, I don't feel like it's dead, but it was a little it was like, oh, I was that close. But yeah, there are some other companies that they they showed it two, three times since. So, I I think we're going to find a home for it hopefully. Good. Thanks. That's wonderful. Thank you. All right.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh you've got the report there in front of you. You have any questions? And a couple notes. Uh when you guys are looking at these reports, take a real close look at the training part and see what we're doing in training. Uh because it's not just we're doing training. Uh you can see the lieutenant has gone through a training for attack and incident management which gives us an advantage with everything going on in this world. And then we do leadership uh training. That leadership training they're they're send out professional leadership training and those are things that are getting people ready for the future. So, it's always good to take a look training when we're doing the uh KO license training. Uh we do alert training. It's uh it's mandatory here in Texas. Uh we spend we spend upwards of three $4,000 sending people to alert training. All these people that we're doing alert training with here will enable us to be our own instructors and bring that training here. Won't cost us anything. We're trying to get rid of some of those things. So, a lot of times when you're looking at these reports, take a really close look at the training part and seeing what we're doing because everything we're doing is uh is to make us more efficient for the city. Uh our citizens police academy started uh it's got more people in it than we ever had. It's going really well. So, uh uh we're looking forward to to getting those people trained up. And that's all I have. I have a 7:30 engagement. So, thank you very Well, one question for you, too.

So, real quick, uh, you've been to emergency. You've been to MM training? Yes, absolutely. Is anybody else in the department beside yourself in MM? Uh, the lieutenant has, and I think also our training guy has been there. Okay. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. I took all that stuff for years and years and years and years. I have a question. So, our friends to the south in Harris County, I see that um they were no longer I guess police, the mayor said the police force would not support ICE and therefore state is pulling funding to HPD. Are we concerned with that with is that going to change behavior up here? Is that going to

I heard that today uh the other day when they were when they were talking about doing that u I knew that was going to be a fantasy because when you're when you're making decisions like that you're getting state funding. I think they lost about $110 million in state funding.

Uh the best thing to do with that, we talked about it today. Uh it's not to try and tell an officer how to do his job when he's out. Uh he could get something of that nature. let that be his discretion to take care of that in the manner in which he wants to take care of it because uh with the climate that's going on uh when you start doing things like that then you're putting yourself on one political side or the other and so you should just do your job just do your job in the way you're supposed to do and we'll go from there and the other guy figure out how the $110 million I just didn't know if we had an influx of how much people wanted to come to our PD it's a bad decision I would thought some people would have made some phone calls before Okay, thank you very much. Thank you.

Thank you. Good job. Number 21, municipal court uh report March 2026, Miss Duckette. Good evening, mayor, council members. Um for the report, the citation for 169 and the revenue was $50,3827. Do you does anyone have any questions from this report? What are you doing different? We've just been sending out the um text messages and lots of phone calls. So, and it's income tax time, so before they shop, they can pay us. Thank you.

All right. Mayor Council, uh, in addition to your report for February, you'll see that I gave you a report with the audit entries uh, for year end of September 30th, 2025. If you have any questions about the reports that we're providing, this is that time of year where we take the sales tax that we got in October and November and push it back. tax makes our sales tax look sad right now. The eb and flow. What's that? The e and flow. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. We did it in October, November, but it was actually sales tax receipts in August and September. So, it's last fiscal year. So, it's just an adjusting entry that happens and the same thing will happen next year. So it's it's just a two year or two month window that shifts. So all right. Thank you. You're welcome. All right, Mr. Mroy of 23 public works report. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Be happy to answer any questions you have on the report. Then I'll go into accountability after any questions.

No, I want to say thank you. I had followed up with there was a community meeting last night on the north side and um the cloudy water. I understand your guys showed up and are helping with that. I don't know if it's fixed it or not, but I just know that. So, thank you for that. Yeah, absolutely. I was shocked that it was only one house that Yeah. So, do we know what it was? It's probably from the break. It just had some air in the line. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Well, then so then flushing it will help. Does that look like pushes all the air out? Yeah. It's crazy. Okay. But yeah, I know we we got with the resident. I made sure they they down with them specifically and talk to them about it. So, good. Thank you. Appreciate it. Go ahead. And oh, and I got nothing. So, two two speed bumps. Yeah.

Yeah, we're getting quotes on that now. Well, actually, we've got we've got two good quotes on it and a third one never replied. Uh I did tell our superintendent Dave, go ahead and move forward with the with the lower that we got. Okay. And then uh they also requested the speed did I don't know if chief told you this but the speed limit signs and the school zone signs like those all those signages got those signs got taken out and they need to be replaced. I did not speed. Yes. Yeah. You're supposed to translate that. Yes. The speed limit signs are gone. I don't know where they are. And then we will look at that tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. So if you can find out um speed limit school zone and then the two speed comps would be

Yeah. We'll have to we'll probably have to put new ones up. And we did we did ask the county about the speed hop signs and they said they were Yeah, but the school signs. Yeah, the school school zone. I think I don't think those are up even. And I don't know if that's us or if that's the school or if that's county who who does that, but so it is typically the school that does it. Okay. Uh but because we have never had any schools on uh but we can look at sign. Yeah. I just didn't know if they there was a signed graveyard that they so what you have a signed graveyard that people could go through and pull out the signs and where are the speed buns supposed to be at Mike on MLK one right past I know I know where on MLK

right have one right pass by and then right at against Y okay I mean they're seeing people pop wheelies and 18 wheelers are going down that road now so and at a high rate of speed and it's an autobond motorcycle I've seen Bless you. For the ATV. Well, yeah. And motorcyclist going up on one wheel. I mean, cuz it's just once you get past like right before Baja, it's a straight shot. They haul. Now, here's the problem. Got a really good nice road now. So, yeah.

Well, and that they used to not do that when it was that culvert. They said at night and that that turn that first turn like when you pass in the school on the right hand side it's typically dark but they can we get some reflectors because the road you'll go off the road if you don't I drove it again last night and I was like okay this is dark so I don't know if there's a way to get reflectors on the edge of the road that dark. Okay. Thank you. That's it. Thank you. I just uh I just wanted to ask about the work we did for waste management. You said we delivered 17 garbage and 17 recycled and removed two trash cans. Yes. For waste management. What do we do that every month or

Well, so we It's kind of come full circle. We when I first started here, we were delivering cans to residents. Years later, we gravitated away from it and started having waste management do it. We've had an issue come up recently and within the last year where waste management is not delivering cans on time. So, it was a meeting between myself and Maryanne to discuss how we could serve the residents better, get their cans quicker. The only thing that made sense is to have us do it because we can do it on a moment's notice. What was happening is residents were moving in and they weren't getting their can for 2 weeks

and trash was just piling up. So, uh that was the solution. It doesn't take a lot of extra time. They bring them to us and stack them up in our yard. have a spot designated for them and then whenever uh utility billing submits a work order we generally get to it the same day and get them hands. So good deal. It was something that we we opted to start doing again but to to those problems. I know that I think Miss Fox is um the broken wheel woman. If anybody has a broken wheel on their can, they call her. So, but is that something they can call you for? You can swap out the cans and then get the can over. So, maintenance is still handled by waste management. Okay, we are in I just thought we'd take the bad one out of out of commission and

I upholded the rep first thing this morning actually 7:18 by 7:30 she said it's done. I've already contacted them and told me it's not done by the market. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that was the we would deliver the cans, but any uh any repairs were still done. They just they couldn't guarantee that cans would be delivered before the weekly trash run. They guarantee him be delivered the day of, but it's kind of too late. So, okay. And the these are these are being done as of today. I mean, as as tomorrow, Wednesday. Okay. Thanks.

Uh, accountability. So, we're back up. Uh, as we suspected, we were not actually missing any water. We didn't have any leaks. We didn't have any major uh discrepancies on any any meters in the system that weren't reading. Uh it's a combination of two things, but the biggest factor was one of the well meters was actually not reading right. So the the well meter was reading more than what it should have been reading. Uh but in this investigation, we we contacted Accurate Meter to have them look at it and they actually figured out that there was a nationwide issue with our uh meter software uh that prompted them to look at that. It was we were reporting 950 m with no recent flow out of the 1500. They weren't truly reporting no flow, but they were in that section of no flow. So it had some things messed up. Uh but it was a nationwide issue that because of us checking into it, they found it and got it fixed now. But our accountability is already back up uh 10 to 11%.

So yeah, we're back up. The report you're going to see from Philip is right at 90. Uh but that was the month of February. So the month of March, we've already looked at it. The number that we're at right now is about 88% and they that's before their flushing numbers were factored in. So I think last month we were at 78 that we sent over to them. So it will be back up next. Those are state certified meters since that's all reported to the state. Gallons pumped, right? The the the well meters.

Yeah. Well, I mean yeah, we log everything daily. Everything's And then we calibrate it twice a year. We have calibrated twice a year and that was done recently and I believe they were 99 and I believe they were 99 and 101 is what it was. I I can get those numbers. So they were calibrated and they were still off when they got done calibrating them. No, the the calibration wasn't off. What it was was the water was flowing through the meter and then backwards through the meter. So the overall the overall number was skew because it wasn't calculating what was running through it backwards properly. what was going through it forward was probably but not backwards. So the overall number going forward was being messed up.

So that putting this together at all we discovered that on March the 10th and then I've been watching accountability daily the entire month of March and the 10th is when the accountability shot back up. So it was definitely that which good news is that means we didn't lose any money. We didn't have meters that weren't reading properly losing money. liquid coal. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Number 24, utility operations report. All right. So, he covered the he stole your thunder.

Yeah. Well, I got something else to report. If you look at page two, page two, you see that we have a rare occurrence. We have an excursion on our wastewater treatment plant over the wastewater plant. We had an equipment failure which caused right on sample day and so it caused a blanket and clarifier come up and we had extra higher TSS going over the weir and so that caused us to report a excursion happen right at the end of the month. We don't have the tough time to sample it out or do anything with it and so I don't expect any repercussions from the state regarding this. We reporting it to them. It was directly related to equipment failure. the uh everything's been fixed immediately in that next week and we are running clear right now. All the numbers are back down under seven milligrams per liter for TSS. So that everything's back into operation. So that'll be the first question the state asks is

TCQ you're going to send us a love letter. They might and the only response would be it was due to an equipment failure and here's the records of how it was immediately corrected. So, like I said, it's a tiny issue and it's just right there at the end of the month, right on sample day. It's just the worst part. So, always, but anyway, that is my only kind of real thing note to report on that. What was the issue?

It was an issue with the lift station. So, it's kind of complicated, but essentially what was happening was is that we had a lift pump cold and so they was running on two rift pumps in the lift station and the level indicator was skew during that time and so we the pumps were running almost continuously and what happened is when that occurred it started essentially sending a surge of sewer instead of step feeding it into the plant it surged it for like a long period of time. It's a 30 foot deep wet well. It's got a lot of storage in it. So as that surged, it does cause a blanket and clarify to come up and it just does it really quickly and the timing of it was just right for example. So it was immediately corrected. We know we know what to look for. We know what to you know we've got an issue that okay

very good. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. Uh Miss Tilly number 25 development services report. So we heard two special needs today. There'll be another special needs application that's going to be charted in the same building. So be prepared for that. But still a lot of development. uh people asking about wanting to um annex into the city, asking about the process of annexing into the city. A lot of them are quite far away. Always ask them take a look at this. Make sure you know what you're asking for the cost of having to make any kind of connections with the city. uh they I guess heard that our services are really good and they want to be a part of that. So

So you say really far away like where's really far far away? Uh Spring Ranch. So a lot of Yeah, they wanted to provide services down there. When you start looking down to the the loop that goes over to 149, it gets a little bit far. I I suppose we have Bri and the lift station there and water that's there but again they have to look at the cost of that and of course there's people down 149 that is also looking at Church of Montgomery asking they don't want us they put in their own will they wanted this to before but

people south of of Church of Montgomery that are asking about it small developments uh 5acre developments that are asking bucket. Um, you have to get beyond the railroad tracks underneath the railroad tracks and process pretty uh lengthy in order to do something. They've got a bore and then go through the railroad commission and federal and all that all those entities. Okay.

So, we still get inquiries on that. We were talking about the industrial district. I've had inquiries about other industrial um grant has had similar inquiries too. Uh they're looking for a lot more land. Um so not just a suite, but they're looking for acreage. So maybe we might have to look at some reasoning of some of our land that we still have available. A lot of it is in the flood plan. I can I say with the resoning like you said there's going to be another business that wants to open up there. There's how many is it? Three buildings in this industrial.

No, I'm sorry. How many this was earlier? Only reason is we're having another one and then it's going to be another building and another building. Is this whole thing going to be I just it could be snowballing. So is that something I mean to address with the owner even if he takes not to beat a dead horse because we talked about it earlier but to bring like section off a part of it or something.

The reason why we're addressing it now is that this was the last building at some park that um is being occupied. So this is a a brand new building. These are new occupants in these suites and they had just purchased the property owner had just purchased that building. um from a larger group on at Summer Park. There's probably eight buildings at Summit Park. You have four directly behind the building that the one building that we're looking at with the special use permits. Uh there's four there. And then you have the storage and warehouse section of of some

those occupancies. I'll address them as changes occur, whether they expand into other suites or change of ownership, change of operation, and that's not we'll catch the other uses that use the other uses that might not fit in the industrial district. But other than that, uh we're still going through a lot of our processes. Um, you'll probably see some requests for updates in our ordinances. Going through those, uh, still doing code enforcement. There's nuisances, some of the illegal dumping. It was nice because the police department, Sergeant McCrae, was able to catch um a portion of Home Depot where they were fixing their parking lot and they had saw cut a bunch of their concrete pieces and threw them on Gardener Street. So the dead end of gardener they look like mattresses so anything of it but Sergeant McCra took a look at it and that was taken care of just before they started doing a cement wash out on darker street so we were able to catch that ticket

and that was Home Depot's contractors um and I did talk to Home Depot they were very helpful very helpful uh planning and zoning commission we had the refresher training sessions that we were going to do. We're kind of on a hiatus on that until we get the two new planning and zoning commission partners into there and then we'll get them out. But other than that question, thank you, Miss Tilly. Mr. Rick Hannah 26 building official report for February 2026.

Good evening, council and mayor. um have my report. Uh just to summarize, Texas First Bank for business tire, which is director behind CBS and started their work. Lonear Cowboy Church has started work on their new office facility. I've spoken to folks over at Tri Point, they anticipate starting their model around the end of the month. U over Legacy Grove. Uh we're having pool applications in Brierley and if you'll remember all sorry time point has a model homecoming already. Tri point. Yes. Yeah.

We can tell that but I I went by Lone Star Park where they still clearing stuff. So they have a model home ready. Yeah, they got a nice corner lot ready to go and they planned reviews have been done and make sure I heard that correctly.

Uh but anyway, my point uh you know developers come in, they're all saying people want big old yards and they want little space in between and so forth. Uh some of the pools that have been applied won't fit in the backyards. So they're having to redesign because they're they're going across the lot lines. So uh when the builders come in say people want small lots, that's not what I'm seeing. No, it's it's not what we hear when people drive through a neighborhood like Buffalo Springs where the lots are large and there's space between the homes. The people I get the solicitors come and go, we love the neighborhood and it's solicitors, right? Because because of the space and

you know, you're not both on top of each other. So, I've always been against those small lock and like I said, the first few folks that get in and get the pools will be in good shape because they're coming on side yards that haven't been built in yet, but once the neighborhood starts building out, we're let them have five. They're literally building right up to the 5ft lines on each side. So, they're not going to be room to run any equipment between the houses and anyway, that's what they tell you. I'm I'm suggest I'm thinking you're talking more about the neighborhood off of 297. Is that the one in particular? You're um I'm talking about Red Bird. All right. Right there, too. Okay.

Because these are but this is their this is their 60 foot lot or 55 being built right now and then they're going to go to 75. Okay. So, these are the smaller ones. All right. Noted. Sure. What What does our code say our lot should be right now? It used to be 70120. Remember where they have a variance? Yeah, they got a variance for them. 70 by 120 is what the ordinance says. 70 or 75 70 by 120 deep with 10ft build lines

for the sides becers because Conro wanted to go from 40 to 50 foot and they griped. So they didn't pass that. We've held pretty strong on our 70 and making comfort for our variance. Thank you. Thank you. All right, Mr. Resnowski, number 27 engineers report.

Talked a lot of these items throughout the meeting and last week, so I'll still hit the highlights. uh downtown bridges project has been discussed at ABC next week uh to for the entirety of the calendar for the town creek project excuse me the wastewater treatment project and water pump number four at next meeting we'll have proposals to go forward with those bidding those projects as well along with schedules and a update kind of summary on co funds and how they're being allocated three project we did have a change order last month it was zero dollar change order But for additional 30 days, they were still having material uh delivery issues. They have since got all the pieces. They're waiting on one school piece to do the connection. So, they should pretty soon. Uh other items that hit lift station 5 that will start in May. Um that project items three and four on page two, BCS projects. We'll obviously go into more detail on those in the future agenda. Both of those projects are on hold. We're waiting on information from the developer. They change grading plans. So, we caused a redesign of the utilities along 105. And so, we're waiting on them to give a supervised plan. Uh going over to page three, the Simon Lawson waterline, which is related to the superior properties project we discussed. We are waiting on deposit from the developer to uh execute those construction contracts. Item seven, the Caroline Corw extension will be about 30% complete with design by the end of this month. Page four, just miscellaneous development updates of ongoing construction and list of warranty items. Uh moving on to page five at the bottom, we will see permits to wait for July. Page six, nothing real to nothing kind of major to note. A couple things on

items seven and eight that I will hit on. Again, we talked about this last meeting. Uh when the Texas Water Develop Board scored our project information forms, I know numbers not going to be exact. Let's say 315 applications, we were like 290 and that's that's not we're on the opposite end. So, we will continue to apply for those. However, with how you sold your cos and the rates you got on those, there's not a whole lot of difference. We talked about it. So, it's an easy application if it you don't always have to to take it if it's offered and when you get it, we'll see what rates come in this. So, uh and then title 8 is the transportation alternative set aside. Uh we are working they just they're changing those. They're pushing pushing back those deadlines. Uh but we have those transition ready questionnaires as we apply for additional sidewalks, trails, stuff like that to get some funding on street improvements. And then item nine, last page of our report, just update on Old Pennersville, LOU. We're still working through with the county on those agreements uh to get them back to you all for review.

You've been down that lately. Uh not this week, but I did last week. It's rough. Even the patches are giving out, right? Yeah, it it is in desperate bet. So yeah, and the timeline that the county um was working on was their intent was to be complete with design uh next month in May to be proceeding with bidding it out this summer and starting construction this fall. So the Briley is pushing to have the roadway fully built and done by next May. Yeah, it's it's a rush.

And then with potential of another development coming in, who's responsible for filling to for on those brand new roads when there's issues? Who's responsible for filling the trips for new? So most elements if they're in the city, uh then they'll be city take. Right. Right. But who's paying for the new for we have it in the Brierly that they are to make whole planners bill put it back hole in a new road. Correct. My concern is and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse but I'm beating a horse. Is the new there's a new development coming we thought was going away but now it's coming

and now we've got these shiny new roads and we've seen what trucks do. Do we have any recourse? because that's awful experience for those for those residents that live in Brierly. Um and that was right. We will have to go back. I I can't remember that agreement specifically. Well, I know it doesn't have roads in there and that's not a good thing.

Right. If we can go and we find ways to one, they clearly they damaged it during construction and document try to go after them for that damage. Can we amend it or I believe that developer is looking to I don't well that development agreement expired so we're going to redo that de development agreement. It is my request and y'all can I hope you support me on this that they do the roads and not the taxpayers. If we're going to do a new development does that include the pit also? It's probably since it's already been approved, but it's I just want to make sure that this is a very clean and we were put at a disadvantage last time and I'd like to make sure that we if we're going to make Brierly do it, we should make them do it. Sure.

Thanks. That's all I have for you. Just capture reports see updated plan review trackers, development maps, project maps. I only have one question. There's one one one thing on here I don't You can't find it, can you? No, it's here. It's called quick shift. That's the service station. Oh, okay. I got Yeah, that was the one where they originally designed it

came back for the car washes not going forward. Um, still showing on the plans. in my building right now. They removed that back parking or excuse me the back drive-thru. Yes. Thank you. Building and then the landscape. Um I just wanted to make a comment about you you said uh in general ongoing activities under B uh text decided to get rid of the medians. Um so what are they going to do? They're just going to leave a a center lane left or right in front of the school or what?

Yeah, it's just going to be the center lane as you see it now. But they're the Yes. So, I brought this up last night, too, that we did that we were successful with text dot. Um they're not going to be putting mediums throughout the town. They're going to start outside of uh the city limits headed toward Jin, but they're going to leave it as is. Yeah. Yeah, cuz the original plan was I don't remember which one exactly, but they were blocking off at least one of the entrances to there's five of them that are highly used and you've got at least 12 buses at one time and there's several buses bus groups that come through there. What did they like? Well, in the church and all of that. Yeah, it didn't make sense.

They were hadn't been out here in years and they were going off the junior. Are they still planning on doing the medians on 149? that's still moving forward. I have to go back and look at that. Okay. Because we just haven't heard about it. Been a couple months since we've had that discussion with you. And so again, at that community meeting last night, 149 and 1097 that is now getting that light. It you've got cars stacked up to 1097 west, which PS is a mile. It's about from 1097 east. There's got to be some reprieve. And I know there's been no deaths. No, there's not a whole bunch of wrecks. So, their data they look at is not gonna, but it's it's a serious issue.

And I don't remember the the I have to go back and find my notes, but we we discussed the last time the tech stop was here that trying to get a maintenance project for the turn lanes at that intersection help with some improvement. That was brought up last time. Yeah. Yeah. And but I need to go back and see where they were. I know that whole team changed. Where who is that new team and we need to see their faces. Yeah. We'll we'll follow up with Jeffrey English. Jeffrey English. Thank you. And get another. I know we've been meeting every six months, but it's been coming. The last one I thought was cancelled, wasn't it, or with him? No, he was here. Was here. Yeah, we'll confirm and we'll follow and see when we get that next one scheduled. That would be great.

Things are because that is a big issue. And so now that you have a school there, it's it's impeding people getting their kids to school on time because that traffic not only is nearly a mile to 1097 west, but it's also backing up 1097 east and it doesn't allow TJ's house. Yeah. And there's no way out on the road. Yeah. Be on. So it's I mean it's a serious problem. We will follow the text on those. I know Robin was, but it was the timing should be determined. That'd be great. I know. But that that's 20 years in textile life for sure. I'm not sure you can go that fast. 50 years in our life. Okay.

Also, I want to make a comment about item number six. Um, this candidate Keith thing is kind of getting under my skin now. And I know I talked to you Brent the other day. He said he's coming next month, but now he's saying he's putting us off till November of this year. I I just don't understand why we keep getting the months keep going back and back and back on when he's going to present November. I I don't know. I didn't know that. It's right here. Right.

I don't I need to follow up exactly where that November 26 date came from. to your first question. I know Brent's been trying to get Khendricks to come in. I thought they were coming in an update. Yeah, he was scheduled for the 28th. Got an email today saying, "Oh, I'm going to be out of town." And I gave him a month notice. We'd like a refund then, sir. Yeah, he's already been paid most of his money. Yeah, we'd like a refund, sir. Yes. Most of the money. Okay. make the money wildly disappointing. Do we have any recourse? Yeah, there is a in the contract there was a uh for non-performance. I think we've hit that.

No. Yeah, we have to go to Yeah. Yeah. Can we look into that? I mean, at this point in time, I mean, Tilly talked about new ordinances and going like, if we're doing it on our own, what what do we need them for at this point? Now, I'd love to just re get our money back, a portion of our money back. And I mean, that that was the the conversation with him, you know, his proposal and we're at 60% buildout. Why are we changing the system? I mean, we can improve the system. Yes. And we do need to improve the system. We We need to update our ordinances. Absolutely.

Yeah. There's plenty of that needs to be done, but their proposal was to reinvent the wheel and I don't Their proposal was trash and we all said that. Yeah. And it should not be. We gave them a foundation of what we have. They can take the trash that they presented somewhere and marry it in the middle. That's what we were trying to get and I and I know that and I don't know. This was eight months ago, a year ago. Yeah, that I mean this is absolutely People get fired over these things. It was our fault. That's what we hear. Who's by whom? Well, there was Right. And I do believe I do think that there was

I mean there was some lack of communication for a period there which which fine but that's over now. They need to be moving. Yeah, it's been it's been a minute. Yeah, they had plenty of time to catch up 100%. I agree that I mean that those team rosters have been changed since November of 24. Yes. So I got the email. I said some bad words earlier. So Okay. Well, so so then so at this point in time, Brent, because I feel like it's kind of hamstringing us. We got business. We got to do stuff, right? So why don't we just see what we can do about getting money back and then let's move forward on our own. I

I do believe in in working with Zach. I mean, we've created half of what we need, you know, just together. Bounce them out of here and get our money back. I think we've got a very good business case to get money. No product from them other than the interim stuff and we don't really use it. So, well, and that's caused a problem and it is a problem right now, the interim. And it hasn't I brought that up multiple times and it's just stalled again. I mean, it would have been simple just to revert back to what we had. At least we had something,

but those were temporary for six months and we was going to be all these rainbows and unicorns and none of that has been done. We're year three. Alan, what would be the chances of any any money back? Well, we'll pull the contract and look at the provisions for cancellation. We don't want to pay you 100,000 and get back five. I mean it it might be better just to cut the you know strings and move forward. Look at the what the contract says. I think maybe some should take a look at that anyway please. Yep.

Can you kind of give us an update on that just if we cut the cord right now and but I would like to get a refund of something because we got nothing from that. All right. Thank you. Thank you. I make a motion to accept the departmental reports as presented. Motion by Miss Langley that we accept the departmental reports as presented. Second. Seconded by Miss Fox. All those in favor accepting the departmental reports as presented say I. I.

Those opposed say nay. The eyes have the motion carries. will accept department reports as presented. Closing agenda number 28, council inquiry. I think y'all just did the inquiry. Yeah. Um I do have a question about grant works. So a question about last night grant works doing so in 2019 we were able to get five homes done via grant works. I know somewhere there's a list of people that are on a waiting list. Grant works the last I understand Langley we're at TML um yeah I talked to him not that long ago so they put the program they have put back the program I don't know where the program is today but with grant works we do have residents that would like to

move forward on in that program and it's not that program is there something like that program we can find out I don't know what the Can you give us an update that's not what we talked about when I was talking to them and we were looking at some of the sidewalk walk things and some of those that's other but yeah we can look into it. The home the rebuilding of the homes would be is there are at least three to five that I know of that would

would be and I know you have to have so many that could apply and be part of that program. So I think we have the the need if we could find the right program for that would be great. Uh I do have an account too. I spoke to Mr. Walker about this. Um several people have came to me about the water rates. um I knew well commercial railways specifically uh specifically the downtown and it's a very very small amount of people that are talking about this and I'm really not sure but I do understand that it's not necessarily it's not that it's unfair but it just does seem to be a little offkilter such as the Davis Cottage which is open basically about 6 to 8 days a week uh their their minimum water bill is $126 $6 a month.

She means six to eight days a week. Excuse me. Yeah, right. Came out of my mouth. Tell me about probably about 15 hours. Okay. I don't want your work. So, it's $126. Uh, Kelly, uh, welcome to the club. She didn't have enough license after all that. But anyway, Kelly, she's complaining because hers is now, you know, 90 something dollars. and she says she flushes the commode one half a month. I I'm not there to justify whether she does or not, but anyway, is there anything that can be done? I know I've talked to you before about that, but I don't

Yeah, we're looking at I mean, it's it's a small group, so you don't want to create a precedence for the entire thing. about five businesses probably that would fall under that. But I kind of came up with is is potentially we could use the EDC to help those people separate of trying to rework our entire how would you how would that work that EDC would give them a grant for something? Well, I have a question for Chris on this. We have no um it's based off of you saw it's the base it's the base rate is all they give because they're not using any problem minimum base rate. Yes. Yes. Right.

So it's all it's it's the base usage. So I don't the base rate went up 20 or 40 bucks. Like the base rate went almost doubled. Yeah. The the base rate went up significantly for commercial. Just for the commercial. For commercial. Can we not give them residential then? If she's only flushing Well, let's give them residential rates because I don't know. Well, I know my thought process. I think this is a travel like a tourist step.

Correct. So, a couple things that we've talked about was what Brett was talking about regarding the grant. Second one is looking right now your commercial use is just based on usage or excuse me your commercial rates are based on usage for all meter sizes. It's more work to do it per meter size because again these these five or so businesses or small businesses small meters versus your homeos that have a 6 in very different between a 3/4 in 6 in. That obviously changes your entire structure or like you said reducing the minimum and just adding a tier most you know the small businesses are are in this tier and then that rate structure steps up after that.

We couldn't do it because it was 77 businesses that fall under that small. So the only way then you just cover them all. No, no, no. Don't don't go by what the business is classified as. Use it as true water usage. So if you're under 500 gallons in a month, then that's your new step. Yeah. But if your base rate doesn't change, you fix nothing for those minor losers because their meters are the same size as the other 77 businesses.

But but we're calling it a commercial meter, right? And we have a base of however many gallons for our commercial read that they can use and then their gallons start up after that. So you have a second step, right? So at 500 gallons, if they stay below that, their rate, their base rate would only be at that 500 rate. Once they get over that, which is what a business that has more foot traffic would do, would then be in that other base rate. So it automatically take it's just another step. Well, I understand what you're saying about that, Casey, is to to bring it down because honestly, the other issue was that they were talking about, well, what if you just cut the water off? I don't think you can actually do that and be a legal No, you can't do that.

No. Uh, so but it was something to think about and I know I like S said I'm probably going down the wrong trail but I said I will bring it um to council because I know of at least five people. Yeah, this the small handful I think we you know it's going to be better overall to kind of address that group than it is to repric the entire thing. But we're still kind of working through it. I don't know. I just wanted to bring it to everybody's attention because honestly until it was brought to my attention that the Davis Cottage pays that much money I was totally astounded for how many times that was pushed.

Yeah. But I I know in talks with Mary Ian that there is maybe a way we can do something with the billing and similar to what case is saying is carve out something that's a it's another level but it's just something I think the office should be aware of it some of the people treatment I don't like the sound of it it's a classification so carve out is and that's exactly why I don't want to carve out anything and I want to create a So it doesn't matter who you are. If you fall under that usage, that's your correct. Yeah. Cuz I don't consider it. I don't cuz now change.

Just to clarify what what Brent was saying to you, Casey, the 77 that he was saying, that's the number of 3/4 inch meters, not the number of small businesses.

That's the commercial 3/4 inch meters. That was 77 out of the 198 commercial meters or the 3/4. And I understand the the meter sizing, but at the end of the day, it's about usage, right? It doesn't matter if I got a 1inch meter or a 3/4 inch meter. If I got my 3/4 inch meter running 24 hours a day, I can use just as much water as a 6-in meter that runs once a month, right? So, it should be based on our usage. And if our base usage is under a certain level, then why would they pay that high commercial level for these like Home Depot is going to use? They're going to hit their base in in two days. Yeah. On Monday, you know. Yeah, it's just like I said, it's something that for I think we should all

for sure. I just it just makes more sense. Tear it up and and and then it's more level for those competitive rates. Well, yeah. And like like the biggest 501c the thought process behind the going with the smaller meters though is say you don't reduce that base rate for a large user. also and you really don't want to do that. That's why I don't want to use the meter. I can't explain this enough. It's about usage. I don't care what size the meter based on. You still have your base rate. You're going to have to change your base rate.

And why do you have a problem with having a base and another base? It's a step. Yeah. Yeah. But how do you separate that next lower base? By usage. Yes. These people don't even hit the minimal usage. And that's why I'm saying we should have a lower minimum. So if you have a Okay. How do you separate those people out? By their usage, Brent. Oh my god. We have a meter that that that have zero. Zero. What? Zero. Why would they pay the the high usage rate? Okay. They wouldn't. But how do you separate how do you separate them out to identify who gets that bottom rate? You give it, you're saying give the bottom rate to everybody

because the minute they go over 500, they stepped up to the next base. Okay. Then then you're going to have to come back and redo the entire rate structure that we just did for all of them. It's just the one commercial rate. We just have to add the steps. Yes. You But you have to do that by ordinance. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. But I don't understand why that's difficult. It's it's not difficult, but it it requires billing and it's going to hit all 77 of those. They will get charged more, but you have to be able to create that step. Yeah, but it's just a step in your base rate. It's it's this is not difficult math. It's if you didn't go over 500 gallons, you're at a lower base, right?

If you go over the 500 gallons, now you're at this base and then you're it picks up at this level and then your gallons count that you hit that. This is simple stuff. It's not that simple when you do it through the billing system. Oh, I don't know. I mean, I write you down in 5 seconds on Excel. So, yeah, but it has still has to go through in code and we have to separate all of these people out or, you know, and create. Once we create this, we have to build them properly. It's just you apply it to all commercial and it just has two steps. All commercial. You want it the same base rate? Oh my god. Okay. I'm sorry I brought this up,

but it was a resident. It was a business concern. Yeah, I know what he's saying. Obviously, you don't. Are you going to keep talking about the same base rate? Yes, you want to change the base rate. I want to make a step in the base rate and just apply it to commercial. This is not difficult. So at 500 whatever gallons they decide it is the low rate call it 500 or could say hey it's 50 bucks if you use under 500 gallons once you go over 500 gallons what's our rate at now when you hit your your base for commercial 275,000 and then once you go over your base then by the gallon count just like the bill is built now it's adding a level to your base and that's it as simple

right but in the billing system it's not going to know that is what I'm saying. How does it know how many gallons they use now if it doesn't because we charge after the gallons? The base rates are all the same. I understand. So now we're going to create another one. But that that base rate, it's never going to know once once you get past 1,000 if you charged them the base rate here. It's not going to know the difference. You're going to have to identify them separately. It's not going to go over the thousand. That's the whole point.

Yeah. But the base rate is just automatically built for to all of those commercial accounts and then they pay based on the usage. So you're going to have to find a way to take those out of what we're looking at and identify them. I I really don't see why you would need to do that. So maybe you should sit down in his office and y'all can go through it on that. I mean I can I can draw it up for you and I can write your but I I understand exactly what you're saying but we have to run it through in code to make it work. Okay. Or it won't be evenly applied across but we'll have to come back with the ordinance and change

the billing come up with Yeah. This is that is not a we're counting gallons. It's not like we don't know. We know all the gallons, but we don't have anything that automatically adjusts the base rate based on that just for, you know, a handful of people. That's where it's going to be tricky.

It would apply across the board. So that's not a handful of people. That's why I keep saying we don't apply it to a handful of people. We apply it across the board. So it's one time formula that at every commercial usage, it runs to this says, "Oh, they went over that. Okay, when it hits this, we're going to start counting again. End code has to know at this point when I use 1,000 gallons, it starts counting the rate, but but until then, it doesn't. I just pay the base. Well, you just apply it twice. Okay. So, why don't y'all have a little session in the office? All right.

All right. Item number 29, items to consider replacement on future agendas. be that different. Will you? No, ma'am. You don't want to talk about it? I want to entertain a motion. Motion by Mr. Olsen, second by Miss Fox. All those in favor say I. Those post say no. The eyes have it. It's 806 and we will adjourn. Oh, I don't know how to get out, which is fine. We calculated the money if we change the base rate.

Oh, no. I've already heard sing I don't think you're