Health, Housing & Human Services Committee - Regular Meeting

Hello. Good afternoon, everyone. Do we have audio in the moderator? Ask you. Yes. We do. Awesome. And are we waiting for anyone else to get here?

Yes. We are paying for supervisor, LA Pope.

Alright. Well, we'll hang tight for just another minute before we get started. I'm gonna grab my cup of water, bear with me. We got the quarterly newsletter from the public administrator, public guardian conservator. That was a kind of cool and interesting.

I think it went out to all of our county departments or county staff, but I always appreciate and enjoy more information about all of the things that happen in the county that I think that's one of those departments that we don't always get a chance to see behind see into the details of the work that goes on. So whoever was responsible for that, we I really appreciated it, and thank you.

Mhmm. And they're both on me in a in a very just kind of like

Hi, all. This is Jasmine, office supervisor Alejo. I just wanted to check-in. Are we waiting on the supervisor?

Hi, Jasmine. This is Sofia in the Monterey Room. Yes. We we are waiting on a supervisor Alejo.

Alright. Let me, connect with him to see his ETA.

Okay. Thank you so much. Supervisor Elihala is present. Supervisor Askew.

Where'd he go?

You're on mute. Supervisor Askew.

Alright. Welcome.

There you go.

Give you a second to catch your breath and get seated seated down. Good. But very good. Okay. Awesome. Well, we'll go ahead and call, our meeting to order. It is Monday, 09/15/2025 at 01:30. We are live in the Monterey Room at the Government Center in Salinas. We are also live from the district four county supervisor office in Marina as well as on Zoom. Supervisor Luis Alejo and myself, Wendy Rodoscu are present, And this is our health, housing, homelessness, and human services committee of the Monterey County Board of Supervisors. We will ask if there are any additions or corrections to our agenda today.

There are none.

All right. And then we'll open it up for public comment. Is there anyone with us today who would like to speak, share public comment for items that are within the purview of the committee's jurisdiction, but not otherwise listed on the agenda today? If you could raise your hand or approach the podium so that we can hear your comments today. We're glad to have you with us. Not seeing any hands raised. Is there anyone in the audience? I see US. Thanks for joining us.

Okay. Hi. West Wise, Leon Spire County Home Shield. Just checking in a little bit about the Pajaro River sweep cleanup. You know? I mean, we have this in camera resolution set that's supposed to protect people that that are being displaced. There was about a 150 people along the river that basically were told you gotta go. You know, it's Monarch County, Watsonville, and County Of Santa Cruz. And but yet there's no alternative. So what happens to these people?

Well, you can't show me your paper of a lease, which is why you're here. We don't have to ask to show me your paper because, obviously, you don't have one. So that means we get to stick everything you got every time we see you. And that that cycle was supposed to be the promise of this in camera resolution policy and in camera resolution set from the CHSP. Yet we still seem to be doing the same cycle. Almost everyone from those 150 were just told to leave. I mean, maybe offered services, but not attained. So since they didn't get it, where do they go? Nowhere. Just keep going.

And so we'll find you tomorrow, and we'll take all your stuff again. This is not a policy that I can appreciate. The numbers will come out better tomorrow for the outreach coordination team, meeting that they're having tomorrow in the, Hayward Room, United Way of Monterey County at 09:30AM. I would encourage people to come. You gotta go in person, and, it is open to the public.

So, I mean, when is the rubber really gonna meet the road? When are we gonna actually say what we mean and mean what we say and follow through with the delivery of fruition of I mean, whatever undocumented or not, the their citizens, their residents, they deserve more respect than we're giving them. They have constitutional inalienable rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, food, clothing, and shelter. And without that stuff, running water and electricity, if we're not doing that, then then we're not going toward fruition of service or mission statement. We're just collecting money, and that's money laundering and, lie legal liability offset is not acceptable.

Thank you for your comments, and thank you for for your for your village vigilance and being a voice, iWES. We do appreciate you. Is there any other public comments on the house in the chambers today?

No one else in chambers.

No one else in chambers. Okay. And I didn't see any other hands raised. Alright. We will close public comment.

Just just in response to Wes' comments.

Yeah. Feel free.

I'm I'm the chair of the Baja Valley, Regional Blood Management Agency, one of my other hats. But we we got a a good report from doctor Strudley about the cleanup from the Baja River that was aligning for the public because there were serious dangers. There was a lot of major obstructions in a area that is is likely to have, water flow at the next storm in December. That's always posed the risk to residents who are living along the river. But the the agency is doing vegetation cleanup, and some of those encampments were interfering with the ability of maintenance workers to be able to do that work.

And it's gonna be the case from now until that levy project is completed. I'm glad that we're in a couple months. This tiny homes village will open up there on the Wahtang side to provide some options for for the residents. I know that there's already a list already of people wanting to go into those services. So I appreciate the outreach work that got done.

But, hopefully, just as a as a point of information, we might wanna invite doctor Strudley to do the presentation because the pictures say a thousand words about those digging in into some of those river channels, the cave. One was 10 feet in, so they put into danger, not only to the people living in them, but also to the the safety of of and maintenance strength of the levies. So, anyways, I would just invite that as a just a response to Wes is to get that presentation from doctor Stradley perhaps on Zoom. Very human response.

Yeah. Thank you. And and I think, you know, just it it does sound like there's there's more conversation because we do have an encampment resolution policy. It does sound like there may be more happening in this particular situation, and there's multiple venues where these conversations are taking place. And maybe just an update on how the encampment resolution policy is being implemented, where there are challenges, and where just an update on that policy might be something that we could ask for a presentation on it at a future meeting here, because I do know that that's that a lot of work went into that.

And it remains, I think, one of those challenging spaces of work. Roxanne, you've got your your hand up, so let's we only have a couple other things on the agenda today, so I think this is worthy of a little bit of conversation. Roxanne?

Just for a point of clarity, it sounds like there's two requests. One is for an update from Perfma, and the other one is for an update on how the policy is rolling out. There's an overlay between both.

Sure. We could maybe we could have both. Just a presentation information provided at the same meeting on on both of those points.

Okay. Will do. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.

Alright. So with no other public comment, let's close public comment, we can move on to approval of our action minutes. This is item number one. Any comments or corrections on those, supervisor Alejo? None. Okay. Any public comment on these items? This is item number one, our action minutes.

No comments be assumed.

Okay. We can, like, I think consider those approved by consensus and move on to our regular agenda, which is a presentation from the health department's Behavioral Health Bureau, Hope Housing Marina program. And we have a whole crew of presenters with us today. And this is following the one year celebration of the Hopalding project in Marina. And I just I'll take the liberty of commenting as a longtime resident of Marina.

And as the community of Marina where we've had, thanks to McKinney Vento land transfers, the opportunity to be home and host to a large number of McKinney Vento homeless housing programs and services. I think it really has been a part of what has made the community of Marina the inclusive caring neighborly place that that it has become and really takes pride in being. And this property that was previously Pueblo Del Mar and is now operating as transitional housing for Hope Housing is really, I think I give credit to to the programs that are that are occurring there and the residents that have come through those those that property for helping to create the culture that that makes Marina such a special, special community. So I just lay the groundwork with that. But just I know that these things don't happen by chance.

They happen because of a lot of work. And that just having the property doesn't make the program happen. Program happens because we've got incredible teams of folks that are working really hard. And so credit where credit's due, and we'll pass the floor to our behavioral health team here to present. Thank you.

Great. Thank you, Supervisor Askew, and nice to be here today with you, Supervisor Alejo, and everyone else with our we have some amazing partnerships that have made this program possible, and and thank you both for for joining us for the one year, celebration. We did update the slide deck that was submitted with the board report. We found a photo, from the event that we wanted to include in the slide deck, so we added that at the end. And then we also, made a an edit on one of the earlier slides, which we can point out to

you as we go. But before You can leave your camera there, but we normally don't have public hearing our our public policy meetings. But I'm not bothering you, man. Oh, yeah. But And, know, I mean, we don't have We don't have that or nothing.

I'm sorry. What is the what's sorry. What is the issue?

He because he's why is he standing here in front of front of the the dais here? I'm just saying that normally, the audience is sitting in the chairs. I don't mind him being on the side. Don't mind him leaving his camera here, but to be standing in your policy committee is something we don't see in any of our other meetings.

And is it just to access the the screen?

No. He's, he's recording here in front of the panel, which I said, I don't mind him leaving his camera there, but to be standing here is something that we don't see in any of our meetings.

And I should be able to see see you directly. Yeah.

And do we have do we have staff present? Did usually, we have do we have council present today?

Board meeting is is what I was hoping for.

I could stand anywhere during our meetings. Just stand outside. Mean, mean, seriously This is such a Because this is not your meeting. You're you're not the one interrupting this. I'm not even trying to interrupt the meeting. Okay. Seats are over there, not here, in front of us. We're not

Calling order to the meeting. If I can call order to the meeting I'm calling order to the meeting.

Security if you don't move to the side.

We're gonna take a pause. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna adjourn the meeting for a break if we can't call order to the meeting. Thank you.

30. He doesn't So decide.

So what we typically do we have a do we have counsel in the meeting with us today? It's the question I'm asking.

Man, I think he he typically, you we have some people standing here to provide videotaping on that side, but not typically in the front. Exactly.

So I'm gonna defer to I'm gonna defer to county council Stacy Ciara to provide direction as to where media is welcome to stand for the recording of this meeting. If we could have counsel provide that direction now. Sure. And then we can continue with this item.

And legally, that's really the requirement legally, the standard?

I I'm asking I'm asking you to

I'm I'm and I'm just asking the question. I I will do it, you know, out of out of being polite, but legally, I'm not sure that's a standard.

Legally, it is the answer.

I don't think so. We have

never had anybody less And

if I if my colleague could just allow could could allow us to to work this out through through the counsel in the room He's a we can then proceed with the meeting. Thank you.

To the sites, we're able to proceed. Yeah.

I just wanna be able to see everybody, but that's alright.

Alright. And through through county council, is this an appropriate location for media to be present? Location. Yes. This is an appropriate location. Alright. Thank you. We can proceed now with the meeting. Thank you.

Okay. Melanie Rose, Behavioral Health Bureau Chief, and I am delighted to be here today to talk about our Hope Housing Marina program, which is Monterey County, County Of Monterey's first behavioral health bridge housing program. Before I proceed into it, I would like to identify and recognize who's with me here today. If you wanna introduce yourselves? Yeah. Sure. My name

is Laura Clayton. I'm the behavioral health services manager with the housing and homeless services team with Behavioral Health Bureau.

And good afternoon, everybody.

My name is Felizio Chombo. I'm the working out of class assistant bureau chief for Behavioral Health Bureau.

Anna Folia, SunStreet Center CEO. Casey Powers, division director of program services for Interubic.

Thank you so much for being here today in person. And I did just wanna check online to see if how anyone from Housing Authority maybe had joined by they did ask for the Zoom link to be able to join today because, you know, bringing bringing this program to reality has been a effort that has included all of us. And, supervisor, Askew, as you had mentioned, like, this program space is what was formerly known as Pueblo Del Mar and has been converted into what we now know as Hope Housing Marina. And, essentially, this program was able to be funded by DHCS Behavioral Health Bridge Housing Grant from the Budget Act, in September 2022 Assembly Bill one seventy nine that provided the funding for the program, and that funding runs through 06/30/2027. And as you can see there from the, point in time count information, it really highlights the need for housing programs like this, here in our region.

74% the 74% are experiencing unsheltered homelessness here in, our region based on the last point in time count. And so being able to have these these programs where we can house folks and then bring the services to them, the services and supports that they need to help them navigate, get connected to services, and then move on to permanent supported housing and other opportunities, whether they're an individual, an adult, or a family, a couple, has been truly, truly meaningful. And we heard some testimonials at the at the one year anniversary event that were really touching, that really impacted and showed sort of the ripple effect of that, how, you know, bringing that stability through housing and then what can open up not only in terms of folks' health and wellness, but rebuilding of relationships and then being able to to move on to more permanent supported housing. So county behavioral health was awarded $11,300,000 to provide the housing and services for folks experiencing homelessness with serious behavioral health conditions and substance use disorder. It included funding for capital improvements and operations.

And behavioral health was not able to do that alone, so, again, it was all done in partnership with our partners here, Sun Street and Interim, as well as with the housing authority who owns, the property. So, this is, again, located at the former Pueblo Del Mar site on the on the, former Fort Ord, the property is owned by housing authority with deed restriction, to be used as recovery housing. And behavioral health is the primary holds the primary lease, and then we sublease to the program participants and the families that are out there. So it's structured to be a twelve month lease, and then it can kick into a month to month up to twenty four months following that. Behavioral health is paying for and this is one of the edits that we made to the initial slide deck.

It's paying for the rent and the security deposits for the program participants, and then all of the participants out there are referred to the program through behavioral health. And Laura Anne has done an amazing job with this as this whole venture into housing is very new for behavioral health. And so, you know, really, it's taken us pulling together the partnerships and and through our partners and Laura's subject matter expertise in this area to really make this, vision a reality. We started accepting referrals 07/01/2024, and then the first leases were signed 08/28/2024. And so then we did just celebrate the one year, of the program, and I think since we submitted this slide deck, we have some updated numbers as well that, Laura is is prepared to share.

But, really, the vision of the program is to be a housing first, recovery model, low barrier housing. It's a 55 unit facility with two bedrooms. It also has caveats there for family units. We have family units that can have a total of four maximum occupancy out there. And I believe we have about Laura was telling me today, like, 140, 141 folks out there now, and we can share a little bit more about the composition of of the participants out there.

But the rent is really set up to be initially, like, health is is is paying again for the deposits and the rent through the grant funding, but then part of this is helping folks get on their feet, get connected to services, and contributing to it as well. So rent is 30% of of income, whatever that income happens to be, to help contribute. And so here's the goal. You'll see really what the goal of the overall program is. It's to provide those services in transitional housing to people experiencing homelessness who have been diagnosed with serious mental illness and or substance use disorder and to overcome barriers in accessing and maintaining long term housing.

So this is really meant as that stepping stone to get connected and have the services and supports they need to, again, be successful and address any of those underlying treatment issues as well. The criteria is here. So there needs to be an eligible applicant, right, which would be an adult 18 years and older, resident of Monterey County, and individuals experiencing homelessness who are or are at risk of homelessness and diagnosed with a serious mental illness or a substance use disorder or are a care program participant. So behavioral health bridge housing, BHBH, is the source of the funding for this. And, as part of that written into the grant funding is to prioritize care participants into this housing.

And so I I believe we're in the process of potentially having our first care program participant transition into housing this week. And so to ensure that there's the safety in the community and that we're meeting all of the requirements for the use of the property and the funding streams. Hope housing Hope housing participants and their families, you know, individuals are not eligible if, they are a registered sex offender or have a history of fire starting or arson or if there is a recent history of dangerousness exploitive behaviors without concern for the safety of others. So, really, the exclusionary factors are related to safety, for the community and all those that are out there in the housing and in the programs. The other thing is the individual does need to agree to follow the program rules, and they do sign, program agreements, and they need to agree to follow the lease responsibilities.

So what behavioral health did is we have contracted with SunStreet Centers and Interim, and SunStreet brings their expertise in housing services and navigation. And so all of the program participants are provided, support with self food centers, for the the housing services, like coaching, referrals to wraparound services, housing navigation. There's meals provided depending on the need as folks are transitioning from unsheltered status into into housing and and getting connected in on their feet. And SunStreet has contracted with, Housing Resource Center to do that housing navigation piece, and Anna Anna's here and really can speak more to the nuances of of their role, with the program. And then in addition to that housing component, there's the specialty services that are provided both by Sun Street, for the those seeking outpatient substance use, recovery services and then the specialty mental health services provided by interim for those who are living in the community that have specialty mental health needs co occurring, with substance use as well.

And so we're really bringing this the program staff and services to them out in the community. And so the funding, the $11,300,000 in BHBH grant funding, which runs through 06/30/2027, we're actually expected to be, to fully spend the funding by April 2027. And then you can see from this slide here the breakdown of where that funding is is going. 2,800,000.0 of that has gone to the housing authority for infrastructure improvements to, make improvements on the units at the Nancy Dodd Center, just throughout the community. I know there was roofing done, painting done, different, improvements made in the Nancy Dodd Center and the individual units as well to to get them to where, we can rent them out to folks.

And then also $3,000,000 in rent and security deposits has also gone towards housing authority as, they own the property. And then you'll see there the breakdown with the funding that is allocated for interim and SunStreet for this duration of this grant to go to the different services. Alrighty. So as we're looking at the overall successes and and there's the numbers again have been updated. But to date, Hope Housing Marina has served, it says here, over a 140 community members, but that was at the time of the writing of of the board report and submitting presentation.

I think what would you say they are today, Laura?

It's just a little bit higher. So right now, this is altogether we've served 99 adults. Mhmm. 45 minuteors and children.

Okay. Yeah. So a little higher, and we have some sort of in the works as well. So we've not moved in yet. So we are we are technically full with a waiting list, and so we're constantly getting referrals, and and the team's looking and managing, that referral list. And we have had 15 households, discharged, and seven of those went on to obtain permanent housing. So that's definitely successful.

How many health is happening in the housing group? Seven. The best.

Yeah. And so the the other success was about establishing the resident council, and I'm sure Anna can speak to that. It's something that they they do in a lot of their programs as does the interim in terms of having that engagement from the community, that buy in from the community, and that leadership in the community. So those are all some of the successes. And as any new program, a new endeavor, we've also experienced challenges.

This is the first project of this kind, and it's a very large project. So when when we jumped in, we jumped in with, like, both feet and, did a big project here with lots of different partners. But that's, you know, really, I think, a strength of, the County Of Monterey and our community is is we do have great partnerships that we're able to come together, work together to figure out how do we we make this work, to best serve, individuals in our communities. So with it being the first behavioral health bridge housing program in the county Of Monterey and also the first project between the behavioral health bureau and the housing authority partnering in this way that there has been a learning curve. I I think when behavioral health when we say certain words like case management or do we use different language in the treatment space and in the service world, we mean certain things.

When we're talking in housing world, we may there may be some of the same terminology, but it might mean something very different. And so I do think that there's been a learning curve on both sides in with our housing partners as well as within behavioral health and and our treatment framework and mindset as a service provider for specialty mental health and and drug medic health service delivery that, you know, we've had to really look at how do you effectively and efficiently communicate, like, what we're talking about and making sure we're all on the same page and understanding. So working through some of those those things. And then also, you know, one of the challenges is we really have to look at sustainability long term. Like, what's the plan once the grant funding runs out?

You know, as stated earlier, we're projected to, run out of those funds for the program in April 2027. And so, you know, that's just a consideration as well because we're seeing a lot of good. We're doing a lot of good. We're helping a lot of folks. And then part of it is, like, how do we really look at the long term sustainability for the program to to keep it going?

Another just point worth noting is while in the BHBH grant, it does specifically call out that care court participants are to receive priority placement. What we've really found here locally, and I know we're slated to come, here to do a presentation on Care Court in December or January, and so we'll be talking more specifically about that. But I did wanna call it out now is what is what we've seen locally is that the referrals that we've been getting for CareCourt, those individuals, have really needed a higher level of care because and the the team can really speak to sort of the services and the setup of Hope Housing. But you really do need to have some independent living skills, some ability to live in a community setting, you know, manage your own medication, some some other things that in our experience to date with CareCourt, we're seeing some of the folks coming through that program have have needed a little bit more structure. And so this might be maybe a step down for them, but not necessarily the entry point for them.

And with that program being new as well, we're still kind of working through that. So we may see more participants, but not at this time. So we do have some pending items, and we are really looking at taking our first year of experience with this program being alive and trying to apply some of those the things we've learned to kinda shift and adjust as we go. We've been working for the last several months on trying to finalize an MOU with the housing authority regarding handling evictions because while the program has been overall really successful, there it's still a very large program. And with any housing program, you have to have a plan in place for certain things, evictions being one of them because there have been, like, instances where, you know, we need to explore going down that path.

Also looking at is there a way to maybe do property management functions differently? Again, housing is a new adventure for behavioral health being such a key partner in that. Usually, we contract out for those things, but, you know, looking at that. And then also the housing authority is also interested in exploring rent for the Nancy Dog Community Center. So we're having conversations with them and then, again, the long term sustainability of the program.

But how what do you what do

you need rent? Who who so who's you utilizing it now? Or

We we are for the well, Housing Authority has an office at the location, but then the Nancy Dodd Community Center is really where all the services for the residents out in the community. It's the heart of the community and has always been the plan to have the provision of services out of the community center there.

So who would who would pay rent?

Fee? Yeah. The housing authority, the topic has come up that they are asking for behavioral health to pay rent for use of the community center. So with that, thank you. And here's a picture from the event that that y'all were at. Thank you for joining us for that. And and we are all here and happy to answer any questions you have.

Great.

Awesome. Thank you so much for the presentation and again for all of the work. Well, let's open it up to public comment first, and then we can bring it to the the supervisors. Is there and we do have a handful of attendees with us who are with us on Zoom who've been part of part of this program for a long time. Is there anyone who would like to make public comment on this presentation? Either in the room or on Zoom, you can raise your hand. Okay. I'm not seeing anyone. We'll bring it back to supervisor Alejo for for comments, questions.

Yeah. I I just had a few questions. First of all, I was very impressed. Obviously, thank you for doing that one year anniversary celebration and for having one of the families there share their story because just for me hearing that one success story of going through hardship and being in a really dangerous place, the family cannot be in a much completely, dramatically improved situation. For me, that was inspiring.

And I even went to shake their hand to say that for me, that's what it's all about. It motivates me that to support this work. Well, we're not gonna solve homelessness overnight, but one life at a time, one family at a time, one household at a time, over many, really makes a tremendous difference. So I really appreciated that that those hot fill puffed up stories and that they're willing to show with us that day. But just by by way of background, I wasn't too familiar with Pueblo Del Mar. Who were they, and what happened that caused this opportunity to open up with this new, BH, BH funding?

Well, I can say, Roxanne, actually, when we were exploring, applying for the BH BH grant and and things really did introduce, for lack of a better term, behavioral health, and connect more, us with Zulika because the Pueblo Del Mar, from my understanding, community out there was really being underutilized. And so looking at that opportunity to more fully utilize the space as as referenced in the presentation, there was also a deed restriction that it had to be used for recovery housing. This is clearly recovery housing. I also do know, and I don't know if, Anna, I know you were out and involved in the in Pueblo Del Mar, so I don't know if there's anything that you wanna add.

Run by a non profit before, or is there already a housing authority housing units? Or just give me just for background. I I didn't know how the transition happened that it was underutilized, but provide opportunity with this rep funding to renovate them and use them for slightly different purpose.

Pueblo Del Mar was founded back in 1998. It was part of the forward reuse plan. The federal government came in and housing authority got that property, and Pablo Del Mar is their name. That's their name for the property. It still is their name for the property.

Sun Street Centers was part of fundraising to build the community center, and fund and sensory centers ran that program, through HUD funding, through, behavioral health funding, and through social services Department of Social Services funding for twenty five years. And sometime around COVID, the occupancy levels got so low for multiple reasons that HUD pulled funding from the housing authority. And therefore, without that funding, the program shut down. And behavioral health applied for the state grant that we have today, so it was closed for two years and then reopened.

Wow. What a tragedy for two years and actually utilized. Obviously, housing needs to be maintained, so that all gets factored into the rents and and and the housing plan. We're going to, the future funding. Obviously, we got funding till April 2027.

Since this original grant became available, has there been other cycles of funding including, like, this year's budget that just got approved in June? Is there advocacy from behavioral health offices around the state to say, we we did deal with this funding, but you always gotta set set the advocacy a year or two, three years ahead so that, when this ends, you you got some reassurance of the next cycle, probably gonna be there to keep these folks housed or new families that come into this housing, to be served.

Right. So so that's the consideration for for now is, right, we we figured out how to get this going, and now we're figuring out how what's the plan to sustain it. And I did see Roxanne had her hand up also.

I wanna say, as part of this, what are the ideas, obviously, use utilizing our legislative program to advocate for this because this is one our first so thank you for doing this because Mhmm. As you said, it's a new area for behavioral health to to go into the housing, but housing comes with a lot of other issues. Sometimes when you don't get the ideal tenant in a program, finding ways to you have to follow the eviction process that requires legal paperwork, legal process, lawyers. So these are things that you don't really anticipate when you're when you're the grant writers submitting map for for the funding. But, obviously, I I would say that should be part of it because I I I would we wanna see these these units closed down in 2027.

It's imperative that we're able to inform our legislators that we do have a program here Mhmm. But continued funding is critical to maintain it and to serve more of the residents, especially this category is the folks like governor Newsome, the list they always talk about, those who have serious mental health or substance abuse. I think we need more of these units throughout the county because it has that built in wraparound support once you get into the units. And if if I

may, supervisor on the whole the reason why Monterey got $11,300,000, that was actually a predetermined allocation based on the, available funding. So it's, allocated and earmarked for Monterey. So we just submitted the application. So that's how we ended up with $11,300,000.

Okay. So every every county got there, does it based on population?

It was a formula that yeah. There was a formula that baseline was a million dollars for every county. Uh-huh. And then there was a 2011 realignment funding plus a point and count formula that took that into consideration that determine what each county would get.

Yeah. But just another reminder how critical a point and time count is to be accurate. Right? Because all the funding formulas are tied to it. Okay. But I I I was wondering since since this one we came up with, there's been any, but it sounds like there hasn't. Right? So we have work to do to have it to try to get additional funding for the future years. Those those are my questions. And, Care Corp, you'd said that one maybe one person may be coming there or okay. That's still the least term.

In process.

I need to schedule this week.

Alright. Okay. Thank you. Those are all my questions, madam chair.

Yeah. Thank you. And we'll go to Roxanne, who has her hand raised as well. Maybe with some additional answers.

Yeah. I just wanted to, add in that one of the contributing factors to the closure closure of Pueblo Del Mar was it was really underfunded to begin with. And one of the issues is that there wasn't any money for capital improvements that needed to be done to the units, which is why they sat empty for such a long time. So when behavioral health got notification that they were going to receive the BHBH grant, it made perfect sense for them to essentially reestablish Pueblo Del Mar under this new model, having deep involvement with behavioral health to ensure that it does, get filled and the units get updated, and we get the project back online.

Thank you, Roxanne, for that, I think. And and Pablo Del Mar, as a for Sun Street Centers and the Nancy Dodd Center and the history, I think it is important to retain that that history because it is such a critical part of what led what what allowed that housing to be protected for this purpose. Originally, the champions that fought so hard to raise the money and to fight to have have recovery be included as a priority purpose for this housing, for families who are being reunited. Pueblo Del Mar really was a place that allowed families who've been separated for the purposes of recovery or who then came out of recovery to be reunited with their children. It was like a really incredibly special place for many years, that was only because of the work and the passion of so many.

And so to be able to continue to acknowledge where that came from, I think really is important. And so it's I have I have some opinions about of the thoughts about having having to pay rent to utilize the Nancy Dodd Center. I'd love to be able to find the original documents and deed restrictions, knowing how much money went into trying to raise funds to get that Yeah. That building built in the first place and trying to identify exactly who and where and how those those agreements were were put in place. I think there may be some differences of opinion about who who and who and who and how and where that all came together originally.

But putting that aside, I just I think the questions that I have really are more in regard to the bigger picture around the deed restrictions on this site. I know there was a thirty year timeline that was coming up for for the for the housing authority on this property where they were they were possibly able to no longer have to have this property deed restricted for affordable housing. Has that issue been resolved? Can you speak a little bit to that? Does this grant allow us to extend that deed restriction? And how long is that deed restriction now extended for?

The deed restriction is through, I don't know what month, but 2028. So it does seem like the funding time and the when the deed restriction expires kind of coincide a little bit. So we're hopeful that we can continue providing services. The grant does not the grant is does not have to be deed risk it's not a deed restriction towards recovery housing that's on the property. So the BHBH grant itself does not require recovery housing.

Sorry. No. I understand that the BHBH grant doesn't require the the property, though, had been originally restricted with McKinney Vento land transfer. And so the housing authority was restricted to utilize this property for low income housing, for affordable housing for a period of time. And that that timeline was coming to an end, which meant that the housing authority had some flexibility in terms of how they were going to be able to utilize this property potentially to generate revenue to put into invest into other other properties.

Do we have any information or is there anyone from the housing authority who can speak to that point? And I guess my question being that, you know, we're investing a lot into building a program. And if the housing I guess I'm trying to understand what the housing authorities commitment is for the long term commitment of this property. If we put money into rehabilitation of the property and we're putting money into building programmatic relationships that's dependent on having the physical the physical housing available. What is our what is our understanding of the commitment to have that that physical housing available over the longer term?

That's a very on point question, supervisor Askew, and it's I don't know if we have anyone from the housing authority available online. They did know that we were presenting today, and we did ask them to be available. But I I don't see them as a panelist. I don't know if they joined in their in the public. Do we have a name? Do we have a name? Zulika? Zulika.

She's in there.

Anyway, I I mean, I think it it's a question, and we have not gotten, at least not to my awareness, a solid commitment after the deed restriction expires. We haven't heard what the housing authority intends. So we are also very interested to know as we're looking at the long term viability for this program.

I don't see a. Yeah. So Someone else, an attendee, is they're more than welcome to raise their hand and, like Yeah. Remove them from.

Okay. So we're we're But sounds like that's an don't know the answer to that question, and it's a question that is sort of outstanding. But from where I sit, you know, and as we think about, you know, if this was dollars that were dedicated or allocation for the county, And as we think about building out programmatic, you know, programmatic models and sustainability for programmatic models, we definitely need the housing. We definitely need the programs. But but knowing that when we're building out the programs that that that the location of where we're building them out, that there's some some assurances at least for for what that looks like into the future is is one of those key key pieces that I think I we're gonna need to figure figure that piece out.

And there there's definitely, I think, political some political points or questions around that that answer. So so that that's an outstanding one for me that I would love to maybe we have a a some follow-up conversation about. Roxanne, did you have more to add in that?

Zulik is jumping on right now.

Zulik is jumping on. Okay. So we'll let Zulik jump on, we can maybe continue that conversation a little bit more. Another common question factor. There's a quite a bit of construction happening around this property.

This is all on the former Fort Award and the Seahaven development that's been long in the works within the city of Marina is building out. It's taken, what, twenty twenty plus years to finally see that development move forward, but it is happening. And so I do I just wanted to ask some questions about sort of relationships between Pueblo De Mar, this program, Hope Village and the new neighbors who are moving into this community. I think some of the reasons why where we've seen success with transitional housing and homeless service programs, at least in Marina where we've been host to so many of them, is where we've had the opportunity to have the programs in existence in advance of the community building up around the program. And so having those relationships and having the solid leadership that's in place at the facility, be cognizant of those opportunities to bring neighbors in and to make sure that there is that that positive that positive neighborly building opportunities that are happening.

Can you just speak a little bit to that and how that's going?

I can speak to it. I think we could do more to publicize. I mean, it's kind of interesting because we're a confidential community in some regard. Right? Everybody there has some behavioral health issue. They are building right up, like, backyard to backyard, and they are putting up some very tall wooden fence. The wooden fences are beautiful. They are. But they are putting up the fencing around it. I have heard that some of the residents, the new residents there are surprised at the number of not just help housing, but the number of treatment supported housing is is, you know, kinda right next door.

So I don't know what the answer would have been to that. I think it's we've had workshops. We've we've done, you know, Marina the city of Marina has has been very open about all of these things, so I'm not really understand well, you know, so some people are surprised. I don't know what we can do to get ahead of that a little bit. But we don't, at this time, have a relationship with Seahaven, our behavioral health and partners.

Okay. Yeah. And I think that that's, you know, it's clearly a delicate one to to navigate. But I do think that it's an important it's an important thing for us all to be thinking about and finding the right ways to navigate. And there are some really great models in the community of other programs that have been navigating and laying out a really, really positive path for how to do so.

And we we also know that when we when we fail to to to do that kind of positive engagement and honest, open engagement, the repercussions can be can be pretty severe and people can push back in pretty big negative ways. And I just I want to acknowledge how how how important it is with new people moving into a community that we that we do what we can to preserve to preserve the understanding that, hey, these this is something that's here, and this is something that this community values. And this is why and you now get to be a part of valuing and preserving these community, these community priorities that we've had here on the former Fort Worth for decades. And so that's part of our responsibility as behavioral health and as the stewards of of this project moving forward. So just from where I sit, I find those as as really important pieces of this project.

And I will I would add supervisor, if I may, just that, you know, we have done a lot of outreach to the city leadership. In Marina, they've been on tours of not only this program, but other programs that our partners here are operating in their city, and they are definitely in favor, and we have their full support. So I I would add that as well.

No. That's great. So those are I I fairly familiar with the history of Pueblo De Mar. It was a phenomenal program with a lot of love and care that went into it. And really unfortunate the way that the funding way that the funding changes caused and I think some just it also happened and no one mentioned this, but the way in which the challenges with our housing authority played out, I think also caused for some of the some of the referral challenges and some of the neglect that occurred.

And so when we were able to finally get Dulika in and finally get our housing authority stabilized, it was just enough enough things had were too difficult to overcome at that point. But I am hopeful that we can work with the housing authority and find a way to preserve this property for this purpose into the future. Recognizing that I do believe that the that the McKinney Vento deed on this property is expiring, de restrictions on this property are coming to an end, and the housing authority is going to have some some big decisions to make about what they do with this property moving forward. And whether we have that conversation with with the housing authority with Zulika now or whether we have that conversation elsewhere. But putting this significant investments that we're putting into building a program here and knowing that the need that our community has for this type of housing.

It's clear to me that pressure needs to be on maintaining maintaining these these units and these beds for the purpose that we're building them out for currently into the future. So I'll see. Did was Zulika able to join us? Zulika, did you want to jump in at all and just comment on the the HOPE HOPE Housing Marina program? Thank you so much.

Zulika Boykin is our housing authority for Monterey County director. We were really lucky to bring her in to the the county at a time when our housing authority was in quite a bit of challenge, and she has done an incredible job of bringing bringing some bringing some order back to the housing authority, but there remain a lot of challenges. And I think this particular property is one that we're gonna we're gonna challenge you with, Zulika, to help us figure out how we can maintain some critical programming that we've made a lot of investments in. So we'll pass it pass it forward to you for comment.

Yeah. I just, I want to jump on because I want to hear the presentation. I had saw the PowerPoint that they put together. The property that well, rather the partnership that we have with behavioral health, we still have a couple of issues to iron out, but I think everybody's really working hard on that to get those settled. I'm proud of the progress that's being made in the area.

And I did hear you mention about Seahaven residents, which was one of my concerns. How much outreach are we doing to really let them know what's going on? Because it's right in the middle of it, and they're building some more units, to sell that'll really be adjacent to the property. So it's important that they know what type of program we're running there so that we don't get any backlash from the community. Because normally, like you said, the property would've already been there before they kinda built around it.

But the way that it looks is if they got all the new units, they sold them, rented them, and then we had this property that's in the middle. And you're correct also that the deed restrictions will be playing out. I think they have, like, another year or so on that. I had to check the exact dates. And so when we went into this, we wanted to look at the sustainability and things of that nature before any type of, you know, final resolution that's made for the property.

So we're still looking at all of that and just looking at how the partnership is working out and how we can maintain it with the funds that we do receive from the property because we still have upkeep and things that we have to do. And then I also meet with the state to make sure that we're in compliance for all of the rules that are still existing. So all of that is kinda just a work in progress, but I am proud of the work that they've done so far, and then I hope that they continue that.

Great. Thank you so much for joining us, and, thank you more so for all of the work that you've done to get, our housing authority, back in functional order. We really appreciate appreciate

Oh, no. It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you, Wendy. You're make me blush. Just talking. I'm just trying to do the best I can and, make sure I really want the housing authority to be committed to all areas of need that's in the county because we are the county agency, and we're one of the largest agencies in the county. So we really need to make sure that our footprint is seen and that we're doing the services the community really needs so that we can continue to be an asset.

Great. Thank you. Alright. Well, those were all of my questions. Supervisor Lehoe, one final opportunity for comments, questions.

No. No. But you have something you wanted to add. Right? You have

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I was just gonna add that we have been a voting site at Nancy Baud's Center for many years, and that was a great way of reaching out to our community members. Almost everybody that came to vote was surprised we were there and didn't know anything about us, and that's always been a really positive outreach.

Thank you.

Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. And I'll just, you know, credit where credit's due, Anna and Sun Street Centers and the team that has been has been present raising private dollars to support the families and the program to keep Nancy Dodd Center operational and beautiful and and well kept.

It's many many, many opportunities I've had to be out there with those families, and it really has been a life changing space for the families. And you do understand that there are reasons why we have to do, you know, housing forest and, you know, but the period of time when it was able to be sober living and that safe sanctuary for families who were coming out, who were in recovery, reuniting with families was a a a period of history that I think and will forever grace create a something in the air around that that property that will make it incredibly special. So to Anna and your team and all of the donors who committed so much of their lives and their livelihood and their talent and their treasure to Pueblo Del Mar and that property. Just I don't know that there's ever any way we can appreciate and thank and honor the legacy that went into what was created there. So just want to take a moment and say thank you before we move on.

Okay, with that, we can, I guess, we're not taking action on this item, but we can, there's some sort of follow-up things for our team to work on? We can Well, Supervisor Lehoe and myself are available in all of the ways that we always are, whether it's legislative or political power or whatever you need. So please let us know, and we're happy to to engage. And we

can Supervisor asking, can you please provide that direction about future BHBH funding for Nicole Hollingsworth now? Just one of those things to look out for in in the next legislative session just as a follow-up to making sure the funding is looking at this program.

Yeah. Let's make that a specific direction for follow-up and make sure that she has this on her her radar specifically to be looking at for for both funding as well as some funding for for the behavioral health portion of the program as well as I think I'm looking to help us work with the housing authority on on clarity around on how we can ensure that this housing continues to remain available for for for for our homeless community and for recovery for spaces for purposes of recovery. Yeah. Thank you. Okay, great.

Thank you.

With consensus, we'll give that direction and we can move on to item number three, which is to receive a presentation on services offered by Echo fair or ECHO, Fair Housing. We have a presentation by Christina So to, the executive director. Sorry.

I didn't unmute myself. Fernando is gonna go ahead and pull up the PowerPoint for us. While he's doing that good afternoon, everybody. My name is Christina So to, and I'm the executive director for the Eden Council for Hope and Opportunity, also known as Echo Housing. And I just wanted to just thank you, first of all, for letting us have this opportunity to present on our services.

I took over as the executive director back in July 2023, and I have really been trying to get Echo's name out in the communities that we serve, specifically in Monterey County. So I'm gonna present on the first slide, and then I'm gonna have Echo's housing counselor, Fernando Galindo, do the rest of the presentation. Fernando does reside in Marina, so he is local. And we also have some great news about an office space that we just acquired as well. So a little bit about Echo.

Echo Housing was founded in 1964 and incorporated in 1965 by a group of volunteers who were trying to help with housing rights for tenants in the city of Hayward. Echo received its first grant in 1966 for $2,000 from the San Francisco Foundation. And these groups this group of volunteers put in a hotline telephone in their home, and they would answer phone calls regarding any type of fair housing questions that may arise in the area. I'm happy to say that Echo Housing just had its sixtieth anniversary gala on August 15. Echo is one of the oldest fair housing agencies in the entire nation.

I believe there's two more that are older than us. We are we are also a HUD certified housing counseling agency. We were just monitored by HUD back in April, and we received another three year certification before we have to get monitored again. I also wanted to let you know that even though we started out as a fair housing entity, we now provide full services around not just fair housing services, but also tenant rights for both the property owners and for tenants. We also provide workshops that Fernando's gonna talk about.

We also administer rent stabilization, just cause, and anti harassment, ordinances in Larkspur, Contra Costa County, and Alameda County. And we're gonna be we just received a brand new contract to do fair housing and tenant property services in the city of Davis. Last year for Monterey County, Echo was able to service a 145 families, and that equated to over 435 individuals for just unincorporated Monterey County. I also wanted to let you know that, last year we're a tiny agency, so there's only nine of us. Six people are counselors.

And from those six counselors throughout all our programs, we were able to assist over 9,400 individuals, which equaled close to 4,000 families. So as I tell everybody, we are tiny, but we are mighty. So I'm now gonna hand it over to Fernando who will do the rest of the presentation. Thank you.

Hello. Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Fernando Galindo, and I am the housing counselor for the Monterey County area. I'm gonna talk about a few of our services. The first one is Fair Housing, which we provide information and counseling to Fair Housing inquiries whenever somebody does report, say, a discrimination inquiry.

We can fully investigate that. We conduct site investigations in response to reports of housing discrimination complaints. We also conduct rental housing audits to determine degree of housing discriminations. We provide education seminars for members of the housing industry for both managers, owners, realtors, tenants. Anybody who wants to know more about their fair housing rights are welcome to attend.

We do service the counties of Alameda, Contra Costa, Monterrey, and Yolo. And Salinas is now going to be more or less my new home. We do have office space that we are now receiving through the United Way over at their building on 2 the address is 232 Monterey Street in Salinas. So we will be there and be there between three to four times a week, putting in at least twenty hours a week to provide face to face services, instead of people just having to call and speak to myself. They'll be able to see us, be able to see me in person where we could sit down and talk about some of these difficult or even traumatic experiences that they may be going through.

Let's see here. We also provide tenant and property owner mediation. We do have HUD certified counselors to provide mediation services in in respects to tenant and property owner disputes. We also provide information to tenants and property owners on their housing rights and responsibilities, providing alternative dispute resolutions to a variety of tenant and landlord conflicts. Primary objective of the program is to build awareness of housing laws and to preserve housing.

We would like to keep people that are housed housed. We want to educate people on good relations between tenant and landlords and and just to make sure that they know of their rights and responsibilities so that everybody plays right. You know, that's what we're trying to aim for is that everybody understands their part in this. But we do know that certain times it it just it gets out of hand. And that's where we really try to step in and where the mediation can come into into play to help keep people on a on a on a strict contract in a way.

We we can't enforce that necessarily, but it's something that we we have the landlords and the tenants sign so that they can have, like, a rule that they're gonna, stay on going forward. And and that usually works, in terms of the of the tenant landlord disputes.

None.

We also provide a homebuyer's education. Our next homebuyer's education is on November 15, from nine to five, and you can register at our website online. This eight hour first time homebuyers workshop is on credit, budgeting, government assisted programs, conventional financing, purchase, and lending procedures, inspections, closing cost, fair housing, and fair lending. Completion of this workshop grants participants the HUD certificate needed for affordable homeownership. Programs include down payment assistance.

But with this, this is just an excellent way for people to learn what it is to really own a home. The ins and the outs, the budgeting, the planning for maintenance, this is what you're going to learn at our homebuyers education. And then we have our prepurchase counseling. So assist what we do is we assist potential homebuyers by providing one on one counseling on credit repair, budgeting, and predatory lending. We can help identify home home buying opportunities, including mortgage financing and determine eligibility for local, state, and federal affordable homeownership programs.

These are also gonna help, like I said, with the knowledge of finding the proper lender, learning the proper loans that may come into play to better, you know, prepare you for that next step of finding a home, signing your new mortgage, and then some. Now I cover Monterey County, but there is another we have our housing programs coordinator, Raquel, who's also available at this number that we have on the screen. It is (831) 566-0824. You can reach me at fernandoechofairhousing dot org. And at this time, does anybody have any questions for us?

Thank you, Christina and Fernando, for the presentation and for your work in the community. And I'm glad to glad to see you neighbor, Fernando and Marina. I feel like we just get to celebrate Marina today. No. No. And Salinas, of course, always. But, you know, so I'll take it over to well, let's go to public comment first. Is there anyone for public comment on this item today?

No hands on Zoom.

Okay. No hands on Zoom. Is there anyone in the audience or public comment? I'm not seeing anyone approaching the dais, so we'll bring it back to I'll close public comment and bring it back to supervisor Alejo for any questions or comments.

Yeah. Just a couple of questions as I have brought this up in the past. I appreciate the work the presentation, first of all. But just in terms of the the numbers of how many people were served in Monterey County, you mentioned 400 and I think just over 400 in unincorporated Monterey County. What's the overall number if you've provided any service that you are you only serving them incorporated, or do you get calls from the cities as well? And and how many within the incorporate incorporated cities?

So we offer services in all of Monterey County. So we hold contracts with the city of Salinas, the city of Seaside, the city of Monterey, and then Monterey unincorporated Monterey County. So I am going through my paper right now just to find you that number to let you know how many overall we serve in the entire county.

Great. And while you you you find that information, the second question just has to go where you you make I know the most of your service is by phone, but I I am glad to see a a change in where you you provide in person service since because before, I think it was in Pacific Grove, and I I I had brought up was that the best place to provide services? I think Seaside and Keep City are definitely better places where I think the need is certainly, Salinas as well, but I think at least you have one that's not too far away from the biggest city in the Monterey Bay, but that you're also going some days in person or one day in person in in South Monterey County as well. So I wanted to applaud that adjustment since the last time we, talked about these services, and so that that's, very much appreciated.

So, supervisor Alejandro, the number of individuals that we served in '24 and '25 throughout Monterey County was 1,317.

Great. That's a significant number. Yeah. Thank you for that.

You're welcome. And the other thing too is I would invite any board of supervisor that would like us to do a tenant rights workshop in your district. We currently are doing those with the city of Salinas. So we have one in supervisor Sandoval's area I'm super council member super council member Sandoval's area on October 2 at North Salinas High School. We have another presentation going on on October 30 in District 4 with Gloria Della Rosa.

We are gonna be scheduling one in District 6. So we also invite you as well. If you would like us to go out and hold a workshop for tenant rights or fair housing, please let us know. We'll be more than happy to do that. We are doing them in a hybrid model, which means Fernando is there in person, but we do offer it in Zoom for those that cannot attend for whatever reason but still wanna listen in. We are offering those as well.

Yeah. Thank you for that. I I just know my experience in in landlord tenant rights workshops as I worked previously with CRLA legal aid and then at the Suffolk Center here in Monterey County Superior Court. Most people don't even think about landlord or tenant rights or their rights until they're in a situation, right, until they're not getting their security deposit returned or until they get an eviction notice or there's some issue going on with their landlord, or vice versa. Property owners would come to the court when they couldn't afford their attorneys, also looking for legal guidance as the the unlawfully tenant process is very it's it's a very strict and quick one.

So I I know I know sometimes there's challenges. You do a workshop, not everybody thinks about coming because it's out of mind, right, up until they find themselves in a situation. So I recognize that. But I appreciate the outreach and the workshops being held here in Salinas and the offer to do them elsewhere as well. So if I come down all in a while, I'll reach out at the right time. So thank you for conducting those within Salinas.

You're welcome.

Thank you, mister Liu.

Thank you. And I guess it just to that to that point, think it's a great, offer to have the information available. And you're right that people don't normally think about the issue until they're face to face with it. And and at that point, sometimes it it really is you're in crisis and not not necessarily don't have as many options as maybe maybe it would be, you know, you wanna have. And I would just as an interesting point of of reference, I I had a chance to sit down with a group of residents and silliness and just sort of listen to some of the stories and challenges that that they that they were facing.

And for so many of the stories that they shared, housing situations that they were in were long, long time rentals where they'd been tenants of the same property for ten, twenty, for decades, generations of families living, having long term rentals. And so the situations and the struggles that they were having or the challenges that they faced where they didn't want to raise issues or were afraid to raise issues were very different than the struggles that I remember growing up with where we moved every year. But having to negotiate, Remember my parents negotiating leases or when an issue would come up and the landlord would show up at the house and say, Oh, the rent is being raised, whatever amount. And rather than getting into it or rather than having, you know, my mom and dad would just very quietly, we'd pack up and, you know, you would just move you would just move again. And that happened that happened every year.

And so whereas I think the the situations that that are so many tenants and renters face are so different, whether it's a long term situation where someone is, you know, has that long term relationship with a with a landlord, or in other cases where, you know, my parents were just so afraid to have any kind of conflict and the the solution was just simply you pack up and you move and you find the next you find the next property or the next place to but for us that meant changing schools all the time. That meant, you know, the cost of having to like start start over again, again and again and again and again, which was also, you know, had a whole different set of challenges. So I think having the information available is so important. And and so I'd love to take you up on that and look forward to finding a time. And just to to clarify the contract that the county has, it's for unincorporated parts of the county and the cities who are also contracted, you said the city of Salinas in which other cities specifically?

Seaside. Seaside. Seaside. Monterey. The Monterey, Seaside, Salinas are the cities who are contracted. So residents who don't live in those cities or in the unincorporated community, are they also able to contact you for assistance or where and you're able to provide that assistance?

Yes.

Yeah. Okay.

I also just wanna say that we were able to, this year, get some monies in our contract to contract with a lawyer who if there's any legal questions or maybe they just need a letter done and CRLA is very impacted. We just met with them last week, and we talked about how we could maybe refer people and kind of work together more. So we have that little pot of money in all the cities except for Seaside. We actually, this is our second year at the city of Monterey doing that. We also assisted the city of Monterey with creating their rental assistance program.

They're using our model. Anastasia, we met with her, and they're using our model. And we actually also do case conferencing with them on people that are needing rental assistance. So we we really wanna be able to be there for the community and help them out in any way that we can.

Great. Well, thank you so much again for the presentation and for the work and for the service to community and for just taking one more bit of stressor off of situations that are already so incredibly stressful for for people and families. And because having stable housing is as an adult, I find it to be, like, literally the single biggest thing that I come back to is as I when when other things in life are stressful, I'm like, but you know what? Like, I don't have that thing to worry about, and I don't know that I ever would have identified that as being as significant as I do now as a parent. So thank you for for for providing that support. Alright. I And congratulations. Yeah.

Just to share, as I heard their statistics with their team, when I worked at a self help center, between me as a staff attorney for the self help center and a family law facilitator, one law clerk, a paralegal, and one the and the clerk. We counted every brief service we did at the courthouse in Monterey mostly, but we'd also go to King's Side. We would have 25,000 visits a year, 25 interactions. So it was a constant. The need is great out there.

And I know the courthouse would probably have many more people going there if they didn't have you helping supplement as another resource for our community residents when they have legal questions or they're trying to figure out where to get certain documents or how to do certain things. So, appreciate your work, and service to our community.

Thank you. Thank you.

For sure. And thank you, Roxanne, for bringing the presentation forward to us today. We yeah.

Appreciate it. Roxanne.

Alright. I think that was our last item on the agenda for today. And I'd mentioned, I think at the beginning of the meeting, just that it was great to get the County of Monterey Health Department public administrator, public guardian conservator quarterly newsletter issue number one. So got a little bit of information about that, and I know we've requested a presentation on that. So I think that'll be coming up at a future meeting here. Was there anything else, supervisor, you wanted to have presented or request for an upcoming meeting?

Not at this time.

Not at this time. Okay.

Except the except the presentation, which we already mentioned earlier by Okay.

Great. And then I think the the the other presentation that would be possibly helpful for us to have here and maybe even to the full board of supervisors would be just a presentation on the impact of HR one as it relates to the Central California Alliance for Health and our enrollment sort of projections. We did get an update at our last Alliance for Health meeting. I'll bring just some some staff reports to our board to share tomorrow just for FYI. But I'm thinking I'll check with the chair of the board to see if there's time on a future meeting.

But if we can't get that on a board meeting, let's see if we can get that on one of our next committee meetings here just so that we have it presented. But there are some pretty specific impacts that we're looking at for enrollment and eligibility, declining medical and declining medical eligibility applications that we're already seeing that I think we're gonna wanna keep our eyes on. So with that, we can adjourn this meeting, and we'll see everyone at our next meeting whenever next meeting is scheduled for 10/20/2025. We'll see see people then. Thank you.

And thank you again, Roxanne, for getting the meeting together. I appreciate you. Have a good one.

Thank you for doing that. Appreciate it very much.