City Council - Regular Meeting

I think we're ready, Summer. Okay. All righty. Welcome everybody. I'm going to call the Moab City Council meeting to order on May 12th, 2026 at 6:01 p.m. We start with the Pledge of Allegiance. And Colin, would you lead us in the pledge? Pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for one nation under God, indivisible with liberty, justice for all. Thank you. Great job. That's so good. I know.

All right. We've got a good crowd here tonight. We're going to start off with public comments and then we're going to have this wonderful presentation from the charter school. So I have if anybody would like to make a public comment, please fill out a form, but right now I just have one and it's Xander Woff.

Uh good evening. Uh, my name is Xander Woff and I am an authorized representative of the Southern Utah Coalition of Concrete Athletes, uh, SUKA for short. I would like first of all to congratulate Mayor Langanesees and counselors Taylor and Loftton on their decisive victories at the polls last year. Uh on that same note, I would also like to officially and directly address uh Saka's role in a controversy that has deeply shaken our local democracy. I'm referring, as I'm sure you know, to Saka's unprecedented decision not to endorse any candidates in this most recent election. This was not a decision we took lightly and uh it involved countless hours of deliberation with our vast network of corporate sponsors, political action committees, dark money donors, heads of state, foreign intelligence agencies, and other influencers. As we all know, SUKA has been a loadbearing pillar of our local local democracy ever since the first pioneers settled here, unhitched their oxen, and repurposed their ox carts into primitive skateboards so that they could shred the slick rock ramps of these magnificent canyons. All the while dreaming of smoother, more consistent transition in a convenient intown location. That dream is alive today. Obviously, uh, we've had our hiccups in the past. For example, building a mega ramp out of 16 million tons of pure uranium tailings right next to the Colorado River was an historic blunder. But progress skates forward. In short, SUKA has always been here and will always be here. And we determined that considering our outsiz

influence, and the monolithic voting block that we can command, including but not limited to rapidly aging punk rockers, adult scooter kids, sticker enthusiasts, chill dads, radical moms, cops who can kickflip, uh anonymous park flood refugees, and moss cafe employees. Given this unprecedented uh level of electoral influence, we determined that if we had endorsed any particular candidate or candidates, we would have risked subverting the free functioning of our democratic process. Obviously, the decrepitude of our current skate park is the single greatest issue that confronts the city of Moab. But at SUKA, we recognize that there are other challenges and other opportunities that should be considered at the ballot box. And bestowing our endorsement prematurely could have turned the election into a single issue referendum, which surely would have done a disservice to the complexity of our local political landscape. So instead, we boldly withheld our endorsement and not without trepidation, put our trust in the people to elect the candidates who are best prepared to seize this historic moment and enase it forever in concrete. The people spoke in a clear voice and we suspect that our trust was not misplaced because we have received reports from our operatives embedded strategically throughout the local government that a political consensus might be building towards undertaking the construction of a new skate park. Having heard that we might be closer than ever to the realization of our historic dream, we at SUKA have decided to once

again take courageous action and announce that today, May 12th, 2026, we are officially, retroactively, and enthusiastically uh endorsing the winners of the 2025 mayoral and city council elections. We look forward to working with this council toward the continuing realization of a thriving community and we offer all the considerable resources at our disposal to help move forward with building a skate park that serves the broadest possible population and stands as an enduring monument to the wisdom uh guidance and audacity of the Southern Utah Coalition of Concrete Athletes. Thank you for your time.

Thanks, Sandra. That was really good. You got your future generation of concrete people. Any other public comments? All right, we're going to move on to our first presentation. And this is the kindergarten and first grade class from the charter school. They did a really nice science project that Colin and I were able to observe on on Mil Creek and we thought it would be really important for them to share their um science project and the results of those projects with you all. So take it away that you'd like

right here right in the front. Very good. Okay. First of all, thank you so much for having us and inviting us to this forum. Stand up, please. We brought some things for you guys. Okay, good. Yes, that's important.

And Henry, could you do me a favor? You're You're just holding this way. That's good.

Lot of cats to her. You know what that's like. All right. Oliver. This is my friend Oliver. My name is Katie, by the way. And that's all I have to say this evening. The rest is is here for my friends to speak. So, Oliver, could you tell everyone here what is citizen science?

Citizen science. That's what that post we spokesperson.

Thanks all of you.

And my friend Joy Okay. So, I'm gonna important things here. Griffin, what did we use these items for? What were we studying? We were studying um fasting and so 10 ft. So we counted

and over the six weeks what was it most 10 seconds was the ever flash? No. and those two. Yes. Thank you.

What did we measure at Mil Creek? What did we measure? the depth, how deep the water was, and what did we find most often over the course of six weeks? How high was it most of the time?

Six inches. And how did you measure? Did you get in the creek? Did you put your feet in the creek and put the yard stick? No. Maybe some of the other friends, some of the Raise your hand if you got in the to measure. Yeah. Okay. So, thank you so much Okay. So, this these are my friends Henry and Bobby. And Henry is gonna tell you about sediment. Henry, what is sediment?

Particles in the water. Particles in the water. Is it like sand and dirt and like that. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. And so what did you do with this? You would go into the creek and scoop and see if you could That's right. And we recorded it. What did we notice across time across six weeks? Was there a lot of

It was all clear. It was all clear. What did you think about that? We never saw a flash. get a lot of rain. So, this is our friend Bodie and Bod's going to tell us about the pH of milk crease. What were we measuring with pH? So, measuring pH is like acidity of milk. That's right. And we dipped those little papers in. What did we find out?

And was that good? And it snails.

Long snails. How many did we find? Tons of mon. So these are my friends Obie and Oliver. And is going to tell us about these corridor pictures. What did we What were we taking pictures of there?

What were we taking pictures of each other? The we were trying to find out if there were any changes, right? And there were changes. Obie, what were they? And what did that mean? What happened? Changing seasons. Yeah. From what to what? And what are you holding in your hand?

And that's what we use to gather our data. Huh. Very nice. We have lovely drawings down here. This is the data we collected on plants and animals. Oliver, can you summarize what did we see in terms of plants? It's getting greener and greener. about talking about God. All right. These are my friends, my scientists. Excuse me. My scientist friends and Noah. Um, scientist Gala. This is drawing of the weather. What was the weather like when we went to the weather like? Was it

It was hot. Was it hot every single time we went? Did it ever rain? No. Was always sunny every time. Very consistent. Yes. Okay. Noah. Noah's gonna talk about this chart at the bottom. Noah, can you tell us what this is? temperature. It's a thermometer. It's a thermometer. And what does it measure? Temperature.

The temperature. Can you tell us how you did where did we put the thermometer when we went to the creek? We checked the creek temperature, didn't we? And what did we find across the six week? The temperature was mostly what? The temperature was most often that one there. Okay. And these are my scientist friends, scientist Lulu and scientist Hunter Moon. And um Lul, let's see. Hunter Moon. Actually, this is a huge globe, but we wanted to bring it. One of our favorite pieces in our class. Um, Hunter Moon, can you tell us overall why was this project important?

my excited friend Lulu. Could you tell us what were your findings? What did you discover? which affects the airffect. Look how water.

Yeah. Very good. So that's those are our findings in first grade class. It's not all of them. There are a lot more scientists over there that couldn't be here tonight. I so appreciate you having us um come by to talk about this. As you can see, they're very passionate about what they do. Any questions? council for the students, the scientists. I think we learned a lot.

Yeah. I just like to say thank you so much for the care you've taken to to do your science down in the creek. And we all uh you know, we all recognize how important that creek is to town and and it's so great to have you you kids out there being scientists and taking care of the creek and learning about it and teaching us about it. So, thank you. Thank you. All right. Yeah.

Yes. Thanks, Katie. Thanks, scientists. Long snails. People looking at long snails. Objectively the cutest presentation we've ever had. This has already been feeding ever. So Mike really needs to step it up. Thanks Katie. Great work very much. That was so good.

Johanna, how are you gonna follow that? I know. What? Yeah. This is It's impossible. Yeah. Ben's not that cute. Ben, you guys have pictures, drawings. Yeah, drawings. I looked at the budget for I should have looked at like what that um All right, now we get to the boring. Not really. This is very important. This Yeah.

Okay. I uh I couldn't get on either. I was having trouble. Oh, I I had a whole log. I had to kick everybody else off so I could get on. Hey, you're out. Yeah, I see what happened to me. I think I'm on some like Utah guest thing. Change my password. Oh, that's the worst. Happens at a meeting. Password update. There's some internet thing called Utah guest on that. That's not this. No, it should be public. It's public. Yeah, I couldn't I couldn't get on it. Fine. Did you get on the FBI surveillance van one or I guess so. I had to put my credit card in. My mom made me social security.

You had to buy a $200 Google gift card. It was weird, but it seemed right.

So cool to see programs like that in our schools. I know. That's why I thought it would be great for them to come and and you never know what kind of impact this have has on kids in the absolutely coming to a city council meeting. It's huge. I my did things like that in middle school and we did riparian area study and look I ended up here. Yeah.

Are we ready summer? Ready to go. All right you guys, we now have a presentation from the Moab area housing task force and it's been a little bit since we've heard from you. So looking forward to hearing what's been going on and what's coming up. Got Ben Riley from HSU and Johanna. She's the chair of the housing task force. Correct. And and our planner. Yeah. I'm just happy for you guys. I walked over here and I was like, is this for public comment for the budget?

I'll take that offer. Uh so thank you guys for having us. Um we hope to make this a annual check-in. Um we are the housing task force. I'm the chair. Um and it's treasurer as he said. Um so the MOAB area housing task force was made through an interlocal agreement in 2009 with the city county and HASU with the purpose to carry out and recommend lead agencies to carry out the uh affordable housing plan. Um we the main function of the task force is to create the housing plan. We did so in 2017 and 2023 and we have another one coming up around 2028. Uh we also host educational events and can serve as an advisory role to the city and county. So for the last two years we've been tableabling at all the arts and eggs events answering the public's questions about housing. Last July, we hosted a housing panel. Um, we also uh are advocates for affordable housing legislature and sign on to letters of support. We also maintain moabousing.com. Um, we've conducted two communitywide housing surveys which have collected data for nonprofits to use in their grant writing efforts. Um, and we are researching deed restriction programs and awaiting new assignments from the municipalities. So, here's our organizational structure. We've got you guys at on top setting

your strategic plan and adopting the affordable housing plan when they come up. Then we have our city subcommittee subcommittee of the housing task force which sets their housing priorities uh from the affordable housing plan. From there, the staff do their best to accomplish all of those annual priorities. And then uh when that isn't possible, the housing task force can help out and assign to their committees any work. Here are our committees. We've got executive and then we have the housing da d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d da committee which is city and county staff from planning departments mostly um that collect data and then put it on mohousing.com which goes to the second action step the data category in the affordable housing plan we've got our deed restriction committee who is looking to compile a howto and template legal documents ments for residents that are wanting to voluntarily deed restrict their house. Um, then we have our event committee and of course our city and county committees. So, the city's been fairly involved this last year. We had a planning commissioner, a city councelor, and two city staff members actively attend our meetings, which are the first Thursday of the month at 11:30 in county uh chambers if anybody's interested in joining. Um, in our city committee, we have Carolyn, Miles, Caitlyn, Corey, and I from the city, which is rounded out by Ben and Rodney to make the city

subcommittee. Um, city staff has been helping out with the housing pipeline and updating that and then also created the second housing survey. Last summer, city councelor Caitlyn hosted a housing panel with amazing attendance. We had about 60 people from the community come out. Lots of questions to our panel of people from throughout the housing sectors. So, from the city committee this year, um these are the priorities that they've highlighted. walnut lane, deed restriction administration, the land use code update, um finding ongoing uh financial support for housing, and then the housing toolbox, which are updates to tools that we already have, um like the planned affordable development or Wahoo, and then investigating new tools that we might look into like tax increment financing. a housing task force priorities this year overlap quite a bit. We've got deed restriction administration up there too. Um housing ongoing housing funding as well. And then we would like to go into a revolving loan fund and get the housing dashboard up and finalized this year. Our organizational goals this year are to make a work plan with the county and city um to get the goals of the 2023 uh affordable housing plan done or started by the time that we get to the

2028 plan. Um, we also like to update and sign a new interlocal agreement uh along with other things bringing the land trust in as one of the parties to that agreement. Um, we again we'd like to finish the housing dashboard with the help of the county who's now lead on that. Um, and then we're going to be hosting two events this year. One is going to be a similar panel as last summer's. Um, and then thing we're almost already done with is a revamp of mobousing.com if you haven't seen it in a while. Go log on. Um it's streamlined and better than ever. So, our ask to you this year is to um help negotiate and sign on to our new interlocal agreement solidifying everybody's role in um carrying out the affordable housing plans. Um we'd ask for a commitment to prioritize the housing priorities made by the city committee. Um, we'd ask that staff continue to prepare the housing pipeline data regularly. Um, and then when the code rewrite, uh, when it comes up during the code rewrite, implementing the housing toolbox tools that you see fit.

Okay. And I'll turn it on over to Ben. And Joanna brings me to do my best Bernie Sanders impression of once again come to ask for your support. Uh, yeah. Yeah. So, I looked at the budget and I see that there isn't a community contribution for housing. I just want to remind everyone housing stage. Um hopefully that there's other funding out there somewhat, but uh I would you go to the budget. Um I do the county did grant us 155 um to do various outreach and community centered uh um projects and and community events. And I'd say our mostly our budget revolves around that. Um mostly revolves around having those community events like we talked about like Jan talked about um kind of envision the next one being about the housing pipeline that's in the works um potentially um I lost it anyway um housing pipeline and then housing moabousing.com is also another that we use those funds for. So this is a look at our budget. I don't have a whole lot to say but I you know I'm hopeful that the city can potentially uh you know support housing task force and we have a lot of housing leaders in the room and I know that sometimes the cities has its own priorities county has its own priorities um and the housing task force has priorities too that align that align with the city and the county but also it's nice to have all the leaders in of one organization or one you know housing in one room and we also have priorities too. So we we'd like to be able to have some funds to get a lawyer to to to draft legal descriptions. We want to do a de restriction program or a primary occupancy deep restriction programs and things like that. But also we all asu and land trust and city, you know, we're all kind of volunteering our time. Um

we'd love to be able to take some of the burden off us as organizations to be able to be like, you know, instead of me or Caitlyn writing a legal document. It'd be nice to be able to outsource some of that a little bit to be able to make some of these happen. You know, we all understand we have capacity issues and we all have full-time jobs. You know, you're aware. So, um if you find it in your in your budget line items to support some housing, we would appreciate um $10,000 um to the housing task force really to again to to for community events like we won we put on last summer and one this year about the pipeline and I can't remember what the other was. Yeah, it's legal. Yeah.

So, that's our budget. I'm the treasurer. Did a good job. True. Any question? Are you guys done?

I got one more. We've got an update on the pipeline. This was uh done just two hours ago. So, very updated. Um we have 57 units that are recently built. We define recently built as within the last year. Then we have 678 building permits that are active. We have a few projects that are phased. So this is um I'm still working on breaking out phases. So if you see Abby and Lion's back, that could be perhaps a little misleading. But um then we move on to um building permit holds. Um that is when uh we don't see any movement for about six months. Uh then an application is put on hold. Um down to vesting approval which means they're ready for building permits whenever they've gone to a planning commission or they've been approved through DRT and they are ready to go. Then vesting application is uh they're vested under their current code but are not ready to move on to building permit quite yet. and then proposed um those either have a pre-application in or we've been in talks with those developers. Um, yeah. And then at the bottom, it's a little cut off, but we have the our active employment household units sitting around 178. And then our affordable units defined as below 80% AMI is 232. And I would just add that I feel like this involves a discussion all on its

own from that's in the housing arena. You know, at some point, I think it'd be worth council's time to to really look at pipeline. The city and the county has been furnished all of their data and really take a look at what is coming up. I think this is it's very powerful to somebody that's in the industry. So, it warrants its own discussion at some point. Questions. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Moving on to the department head update. We don't have any. And we have two items on our consent agenda. Approval of the minutes. April 28, 2026 regular meeting. Approval of the bills against the city of Moab in the amount of $75,28027. Could I A motion to approve the consent agenda. I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Motion by Jason. Second by Tonnie. Any discussion, Jason? Nope. Anybody else? All those in favor say I.

I. Any opposed? Motion passes by. All right. Moving on to our general business. We're going to start out with a presentation of vehicle sponsorship responses to the RFP. You recall a couple meetings ago, we put out an RFP for vehicle sponsorship. We have Jeep representatives here. If you guys wouldn't mind coming up and introducing yourselves and then Michael will just start off and then we can uh hear from Jeep and go from there. Hello, my name is Nicole Pelli. I'm the head of marketing for the Jeep brand in the US.

Hi, my name is Nate Yulo. I lead marketing for all of this Chrysler Dodge. So, thank you guys for your time. Thank you for your consideration. and thank you for being here. Um, they actually probably weren't going to tell you this, but they their flight was cancelled from uh Denver to to Grand Junction and so they got in a car. Was it a Jeep? Yeah. Uh, and drove here from there. So, wow. So, we're happy to have you here. Thank you.

And I'm really excited to present this today because this is uh it's been a long time coming. This is something that we've been talking about for a while and we haven't been able to really talk about the proposal just yet because it's been under review. We've been talking a lot about it and we're going to present it here to you and to the public for the first time tonight. So, the city received only one proposal. It was from the Stalantis Corporation through Jeep. It was specifically Jeep that submitted it and uh we're going to talk about that tonight. There won't be a decision tonight. We're not asking you to make a decision, but we'd love to get your feedback. And uh what we are looking for is uh whether or not we're going to move forward with this and the next step would be to start creating a contract with Jeep and start working towards that um based on the things that we're going to talk about tonight. So, obviously Jeep and Moab have a long history. I I pulled this from their website. This is a a picture from I think the first Jeep Safari in 1967.

Um used by permission, right? Okay.

So, um so it's been going on for a long time. This relationship has I think Jeep and and Moab are pretty synonymous. There's a lot of uh there's a lot of ties here in the community. Um they have a lot to do with our tourism. There's a big portion of our tourism that has to do with Jeep and it has been for a very long time now. This proposal from Jeep is is formalizing something that I think they've been doing for a while which is supporting our community in lots of different ways. But this uh is going to help with direct financial investment to the community to Moab, sustained global marketing exposure for Moab, tourism demand generation, trail stewardship, which will continue, and community and business integration into their um websites and their programs that they already run, which we're super excited about. the sponsorship offer. And I'll go through this pretty quick so we can hear from Jeep, but uh we should talk about what the what the offer is. Um the proposal, I should say, which is a cash uh amount every year of $120, $25,000 that would be unrestricted. That money would go into our general fund and could be used for whatever the city council would like to use that for. They could also loan us five Jeeps uh for the term of the contract. uh they would be Jeep brand vehicles. Uh we would be able to work with them on which vehicles would work best for us. This is also a financial uh positive for us because we do use a lot of vehicles and this would limit the number of vehicles we have to purchase or allow us to sell some vehicles that we own that we've been hanging on to for a little while. Uh the next thing would be continued trail stewardship. Uh, Jeep continually works with the BLM and and Red Rock four-wheel 4x4 and and lots of other groups and they would continue to do that. And my

understanding is that we would um we would also be considered as part of the sponsors of that work that is going on um as being a partner with Jeep, which we do we do partner with a lot of these things, but uh but we would be involved in the things that they're doing as well. um they would sponsor two and promote two community events for the city of Moab and those would be events that we could choose and uh we would work on what that sponsorship looks like but they there's a lot of different things that we could do and this is in addition to that $125,000 and we would work all of these things out through contract but um we could pick two two uh events that we already have. We could do two new events. We could there's lots of different things that we could talk about. The Jeep would be there to support those for us and they'd be at our our request. They defer to us on which events those were. The big thing here, the big money item is that they would guarantee that they would do two media commercials um per year at the expense of about $10 million that would promote Moab directly. And I think this is we're not talking about social media here. We're talking about like commercial It would be a mixture of media types. So TV is obviously a big part of what we do will help get broadest reach but yeah it would be across

okay video is a huge part. So

right and then there's also the social media part which um they were they're talking about doing two um videos per per year that they would put out on all of their uh channels. And this is what we're looking at here. So obviously they have a global reach. They're recognized around the world as as um as Jeep as the uh and in definitely in Moab as the outdoor leader in 4x4s and they want to be the official 4x4 of Moab. So the sponsorship for media would be two professionally produced videos annually. They would uh work with us on social media post. Um we would be on their website which we already are. If you go on their website and you look at um the if you go on and look at the 60th anniversary for the Jeep Safari, there's a lot of information on their website already about Moab downtown, lots of different things uh which which I think they would integrate us continually into those things. And um they would also work with partner channels and other things like that. They're estimating this support to be about 11.3 million annually, which is a big it's it's it's a lot of money. Um, it would be a big support for the city. I think this is a is a really important thing for the council to consider because it meets a lot of the goals that the council has and that we have as staff and trying to manage the city. First of all, it's financial support. This is a really important thing for us to be looking at opportunities where we can uh partner with corporate sponsors who have the same values as we do, who are integrated into the community already and where it just really makes sense and they have an opportunity to give back to the community which is really important. uh the visibility for Moab, all of the advertising, which I'll show you in just a second, one of the things that they did, but the way their reach is

obviously way bigger than ours. I think they have millions and millions of followers on their on their uh social media channel uh social media channels. So, they their reach is much bigger than ours, and they'd be able to promote us, not just Moab, the trails, and things like I'm going to show you in a minute, but downtown Moab. What do you do when you're here and you're going off in the back country in the evenings? Where do you go eat? Where do you how do you fly into Moab? How do you rent a Jeep? All those types of things. Um, so the cor corporate partnership I already talked about and the give back to the community I already talked about. But those are the main things that I think are really the most important things of this opportunity that's being presented to us here today. Um, this is a video I'll show you. I'm not actually going to show you the video, but because uh Summer assured me it would just mess everything up. And

yeah, so you guys probably know this video. Um Nicole and Nate, you guys probably know this video. You're you're familiar with it, but I've watched this a couple of times and and I'd encourage anybody to go on YouTube and just search for um Jeep 60th anniversary Moab. And there's there's a few of these videos and few other things that they have produced as well. This video here has a few of these I I guess we call them influencers or the I I'm not familiar with these guys, but influencers who have made these videos for Jeep. And they're talking specifically about our downtown. They're talking about places to eat, places to camp. They're talking about the airport, how to fly into Moab, how to rent a Jeep, all these where to camp, all kinds of things. the hotels, everything. And it's it goes on for several minutes and it's very very informative and obviously well produced. Um last when I looked at this this morning, I think there was about 350,000 views on this thing. So So pretty pretty interesting. Um pretty far reach and really uh excited to hear what what Jeep has to say and how they would like to support the city of Moab. But um we'll let them do that and then we'll have a conversation and see where we go from there.

I I would just say high level, Michael did a phenomenal job of summarizing the proposal that we returned. Our brand loves this place. Our people love this place. To give you a quick summation, when we come out to EJS every year, it's an annual pilgrimage for many of us. We've done it for a number of times as well as personal trips, but it's an absolute battle to see who's going to go, how do I get out here, how do I get on the list? And I think that passion isn't because you've got a lot of corporate folks that just want a a trip away from the office. It's because there's a real love for the city of Moab and what it represents for us, what it represents for our brand, what it represents for our customers. And that that's why we wanted to have the discuss. Thank you for the opportunity. Um the the big thing I would add to that is but we don't pretend to be experts in what's important to the city and what matters for the citizens and all of that. That's why we want to partner with all of you and define those terms, finding the ways to best benefit it and best benefit our customers, our future customers, your citizenry to make it the most impactful. questions.

No, I don't have a question. I just I want to say thank you. You know, this is a this is an amazing product and it's amazing um thing what you guys have done. You know, um I've I've been inv 35 years, but um I started out from Northern Utah coming down here Jeeping in a CJ5, you know, when I was eight years old, you know, and stuff. And that's a lot of the reasons why I'm here is because of those trips in in a CJ5, you know, um in the 80s and stuff. And so I think like what you're doing and what you're talking about is um it's very close to my heart. I was in Salt Lake today and um I just want to share this really quickly. I was in Salt Lake today and um I was talking to this guy and I'm like he's like, "Where are you from?" And um I'm like Moab. Moab. He goes, "I he goes I haven't been to Moab for years. I was just telling my buddies we should go to Moab and stuff." He goes, "I haven't been there since um since I was since I went jeeping down there about five years ago, and um I proposed to my wife on the Moab Rim um after we jeeped to the top of it." And I'm dead serious. This this happened today in the story today, you know, and stuff. And so, you know, like um I think it's good for you guys as a product, but it also I I appreciate you're giving back to a community that um that was built upon, you know, um you know, a mining heritage, you know, a backcountry heritage and um and Jeep is very much synonymous with Moab just as much as, you know, um as mountain biking is with the Silk Rock Bike Trap, you know, and stuff or um you know, for J- rigs on the Colorado River rafting, you know, and stuff. And um and so you're very, you know, you're very much a part of the legacy of what, you know, well, might not have been what it was if it wasn't for for Jeeps being able to take miners up to look for uranium in the hills, you know, and stuff. And so, um, so I I I

appreciate you guys, um, looking at this and being willing to be a part of our community. you know, I said this right after each j EJS in this meeting. Um, you know, thanking, you know, um, you know, everything that happened during, um, Jeep Safari Week and specifically the Jeep Grand for that absolutely amazing drone show that everybody in town was on their porches watching and going like, "This is awesome." and they felt like they felt like I think a lot of people were like, "Wow, you know, um these guys were part of the community, you know, these guys and and they did this for the community." So, I I I I appreciate your guys' um love of Moab and um and for, you know, for this this really amazing proposal.

Anybody else? I I would just add that I you know it feels like to me that we is getting the the better end of this. I mean I think we're finally formalizing a long-term relationship and uh I I will be proud to support this when it comes around. Thank you. Thank you for your work and I was proposed to and Jeep Cherokee. We want all your stories for any There you go.

I I lived in one for three months. you know, um but but I think it's also important too to put out there too because um you know um Moab loves um loves its back country, you know, and we love protecting our back country and I think it's really important to know that um that Jeep has done a ton of advocacy to um to protect and sustain our back country and I think that you know that that is a um you know it needs to be said you know that um you know because there could be people like oh no motor well what Jeep has been a very good partner in protecting you know back that was the note I wanted to hit I really like echo a lot of what you guys have to say and I'm just very very grateful that we're able to formalize this that you're willing to put quite a bit towards our community and I'm really excited because you guys have done a lot for stewardship and for trail maintenance and otherwise And I'd love to see that make its way into some of the marketing and and you know kind of include in this whole thing, you know, come to Moab, enjoy our space and preserve it for future generations to come out here and do the same thing. Like I see that picture of the first Jeep Safari and I think about how, you know, it was my parents adventurous spirit that dragged me out here and now I'm here and, you know, and the and the cycle perpetuates itself and I love that you guys are a part of that. I'd love to make sure that, you know, um, as we move forward that the marketing is done in such a way that we're encouraging people to come here and we're encouraging people to care for Moab. Um, but yeah, I'm grateful. Thank you.

I I have a couple of questions. Um, we'll echo we're excited you're here. Um, one, has Jeantis done a partnership in this way before? We were just talking about this here. We have it. This is the first time. And it's funny because we've been talking about this for probably 5 years and we're just waiting for the right moment. And it's our 85th and the 60th anniversary of Easter Safari. So, it seemed like the right moment to ask the question. So, we're very grateful that you were open to having the conversation and putting out the RFP. But, yeah, this will be our first and we actually were doing research to see if any manufacturer has partnered with a city before. And we're not sure. We don't know the answer, but we're digging into that.

Cool. Thanks. Um, and then these will probably come over are getting contract and actually starting to partner. But um some of my questions are about you know what what does it look like from city to be promoted on Jeep.com? How do we start making decisions about other business you know businesses and you know things and people within the city that get promoted? Yeah. Um and like you said, this is stuff we'll work on if we it sounds like we will be moving forward working on a contract and that will come back to you and you'll be able to see how that stuff works. But I I can I say a few more things or did you have Yeah, I have something I wanted to say, but go ahead.

Okay. So, just before we're we're all finished up, I just want to say, you know, there really is this symbiosis between Jeep and and Moab. And it's not it's simply not just that Jeep. There's a lot of Jeeps down here. There's a there's a there's symbiosis between the way that they care for the back country and the way that the people in Moab care for the back country and the work that they're doing. So, I think all these things you guys are bringing up are very important and I know they're very important to Jeep as well. And a lot of what they're they focus on in their videos when you watch them is uh is caring for the back country to keep these trails open, stay on trails and things like that. So, we really appreciate that. Um and uh anyways, I'll I'll tell you what the process would be from here. If if that's okay, we would just go back and we would start working on a contract. They're going to propose a contract to us because this is a first. I do think that this is an opportunity for the city to to not only do a first, but to also see we're cutting edge on this with Jeep, but to also see where this leads us. Um what what else could come out of something like this that could be positive for the city? And I think that is where it all comes down to. It has to be positive for the city and I'm recommending this to the city council here today because I do think this is very positive for the city and I do not see a downside to this partnership. We do um have a lot to talk about. Um but look forward to having those discussions. Thank you, Mayor.

You bet. So, if you have a chance to watch the videos, I would encourage you to do that. One of the things that I really liked, we're talking about preservation and conservation of the back country, but I really enjoyed the videos of you guys downtown of your influencers. Yeah. Going to the Moab Diner and saying, "And after a busy day of jeeping, you could go get a milkshake and they're right in front of Moab Diner and you can go to the food food truck park and get a hot dog." I mean, it it was I really like that piece and I think that could really benefit the city from a sales tax perspective to get people to know what we offer in the community as opposed to what you know along with what we do out in the back country. Um, but I did want you guys I don't know if you know this or not, but Jeep was probably responsible for the founding of Canyon Lands National Park.

I don't know that story. Yes, it's a story I'll have to tell you. Put on social media. Um, but Bates Wilson was the superintendent of Arches and he was very he was known as the father of Canyon Lands and his son Tug at 14 years old bought a jeep and that was and that allowed them to go down into the needles into the back into the back country of Canyon Lands National Park. That started the whole conversation of making Canyon Lands National Park. So, there's a lot more to that story and it would be really cool to get tug to have you talk to Tug Wilson who's Bass Wilson's son. So, anyway, I as we were talking I was thinking I bet they don't know that.

Nicole and I have an assignment. And we actually have another video to share with you that we'll send to the the council is we did a Jeep people story with George who leads Red Rock four-wheelers and he told the history of his father and how Red Rock four-wheelers came about and how they work in the community and a little bit of a tearjerker but it's an amazing story just about the history of him and his family and how he grew up driving Jeep vehicles here in Moab. Beautiful. We'll be pushing that on our social channels as well in the next couple of weeks. Great. Finalizing all the the legal pieces. Good. Any idea when Do you think we might have this before the council for consideration?

Yes, it's going to be at least a month. We need a little bit of time. This has to go through lawyers and everything and and we have to we have to work a few things out. But if everything is acceptable to you the way that it was presented, our goal will be to get that into a contract so that it's it um has all of those things and then covers all the bases that we need to cover for each entity. Um, I do think it's going to take about four weeks to do that. So, yeah.

Yeah. And I would like to suggest that when we do our two two and ones that we if we can have a, you know, kind of go over the specifics. So, if you guys have some additional comments or suggestions that you would like to to make before it comes before us in public, that would be great. Yeah. I guess is there negotiation in the sponsorship offer there? Absolutely. Uh, that's always part of it. um if that's something you'd like me to to talk to them about, then we could we can talk about that. Yeah, let's have that conversation when we meet in the next month. But, you know, you saw b what's being proposed and if there's other things that you guys think of, we can also get that to Michael and he can, you know, talk to the Jeep folks about that.

Yeah, I would just say at high level, we really want to be real partners. We don't want to just put a logo on Lions back or something. We we want to figure it out together. So, great. We appreciate that. Very good. So, do we I I will say that in a public meeting that um when you guys talk about negotiations, I will probably not be a part of those discussions. Okay. Sorry. That's fine. Fair enough. I just Do you want to do you want to explain? Yeah. So, we've done our research. Did you? You guys did.

Yeah. So I I just you know in the public forum like um I do own a a Jeep round company. I've owned one for 25 years. Probably one of the oldest GR companies in town and so and I just think it would probably not be appropriate for um I I just don't want anything to be you know so wanted to be fair for the community. Thanks for disclosing that. I think we all knew that right. Yeah. I just want like in a in a I just wanted to be like in a public forum that that I anything else. All right. Thanks you guys. Drive home safe. Beautiful. Hopefully we'll get a chance to talk guys. Definely. Thanks.

All right. Next we have item 6.2 two, presentation of the two-year city of Moab capital improvement plan.

Okay. So, on this one, I've presented the CIP to you before and it was it was asked if we do a two-year plan, and yes, we do. It is draft. Um, I would like to get to a point where the council actually approves a two-year plan or potentially even a five-year plan. Um, we're still kind of working towards some of those things, but but we do look at things in longer terms than just the next 12 months. And and so tonight, I'm going to present to you what what we think the CIP looks like for the next uh two years. Uh one of the themes from this that you'll see is that and you'll see it in the budget that I presented uh to you as well is that the first year which is the year coming up that um I'm asking you to approve tonight and another item is is really a year of planning and getting projects ready doing some projects and we'll go over those but getting things getting as many shovel ready projects um I was going to say on the ground but on paper ready to go as possible so that we can be ready to apply for grants to go after federal allocations to to look for funding in other ways as well and and do some meaningful projects in the next few years like we have in the last few years actually. But it takes it does take a little bit of time to get everything together. Um, Levi and Obie are here tonight and if you have questions when we get down to those portions or anything for them during the time, just let me know and we'll bring them up. But I'll just go through this and then just let me know when you do have questions. So, trying to get it to where I can actually see. All right. So, I'm going to start I'm going to jump over the revenue really quick. Um, because I want to talk about the expenses first. So in the first year

we have uh a total re revised expense for CIP of about $7.3 million. And if you recall from the last presentation it was quite a bit higher. And I kind of had to do some reckoning and really think about this and think what are we really going to do this year? And I think that this is a good representation of what we could potentially accomplish in the coming year. So, I'm going to go through these uh pretty quickly, but if you have questions, again, stop me. So, the special the streets project is the concrete project that already exists, plus another $200,000 that can go to specialized concrete projects where we see problems that are outside of that larger project. So, that's a total of $550,000. Um, I won't name all the the prices. I'm just going to go through them really quickly. Um 100 West is actually um designed for 100 West and that would be a project that would continue on into the next year. You can see it's 250 in the first year and 5 million in the second year. The first year is design. Same thing with the bridge improvements for 300 South. Now, this one was in storm water, but I have moved it over to CIP and the 10 or the 41 fund because it's not just storm water, it's roads and and it's um other utilities as well that have to do with this project. So, uh the the year that we're in right now is finishing up the design. The year after would be building hopefully, and that's a $12 million project. You're going to see these things add up pretty quickly. So, the next one is 100 North Street improvements. This one actually is on the ground improvements for this year. The plan is to do some sort of pavement uh revitalization on 100 North from um 100 East up, which I believe is No, we ended I think at 200 East with

the uh project the downtown dispersed parking project. So, continuing up the rest of the street to 400 East. um working on parking and then also working on sidewalks and curb and gutter, curb ramps, things like that. And this is an allocation to to move forward with those things. And again, that's not just planning, that is actually implementation. The 400 East Road improvements, this is a big one because this is probably our biggest uh road design project that we're going to be looking at because it's it's it's it's long. There's a lot going on with it and there's likely some changes that are more drastic than we're going to see in other places. For instance, looking at the Mill Creek intersection on 400 East and what the future is of that and how the interaction is with the with the high school and does is that working and the trails and lots of different things going on there. So, um and then we also have water and sewer that go into this and a lot and storm drain that go into this as well. So the design is a little bit more on this one and then the project's a little bit more on than what you see on 100 West. So we're looking at about a half million dollars in design and that's again everything sewer, water, storm drain, pedestrian, uh complete streets, everything. and the the project based on estimates um from recent projects it could be as much as $10 million but obviously the second year is an estimate. Um part of the reason why we need to design these things first is so that we can get a real estimate uh from the engineers once it's designed so that when we do go out to get loans and things like that we actually know exactly what it's going to cost. But as of today those are estimates. The overlay is actually doing an overlay. That's uh $650,000 of being able to overlay a street or a portion of a street. The this for this price, it's

probably just a portion of a street or a or a smaller street. Not quite as long as what we did for Mil Creek, but the same kind of project where we did we went in and milled down and then filled it back in with asphalt. So, it looks like a brand new street from the gutter curbon gutter to the other side of the curbon gutter. And then the year after it'd be a similar following up with more overlays as as maintenance is required. So, uh, heading down. Um, and then I'll talk about bonding in just a minute here. And I'm not I'm not getting away from that or ignoring the fact that next year's projected budget is $45 million or $43 million and how we're going to pay for that. I will talk about that. Uh we have a few improvements that are happening at the at this building. The center street gym we talked about the mechanical over there this year. Um the bike structure is actually being installed. And this um this is actually just the EVSSC equipment. This is the electric vehicle equipment for future electric vehicles that city will have. And then we have the ball field design. In the second year we've got the ball field construction. And again, just an estimate there, but about $3.5 million depends on what we do. And again, that's why we need to go through the design process first. Uh, Dark Sky Capital is just continuing to move forward with the improvements that we need to make on our infrastructure to become to have our buildings be dark sky compliant. Um, the the next one down where it says Main Street to 500 West, this is what we call the Cross Creeks project. This is the area where um you separate from 100 west and you go along Mil Creek and it connects to to Pack Pack Creek connects in there as well and you come out at Fifth West. That area's been closed for a while because of some damage to some bridges and things like that. And um we are working on a design right now. In

fact, we're ready to go to the public with a a concept for how we think we can design a facility that goes through that area that provides more storm water flow that um also provides active transportation connections and and several other things as well. Uh we need to go from the concept where we are right now which the council budgeted for and we're finishing up that project to and we will be presenting this to you soon but to actually designing something for that area so that we can move that towards a shovel ready project as well. So that area can be opened up again for uh pedestrian bike connection as well as uh working on some of the other facilities down in that area. the estimate right now, and this is again from Main Street to 500 West, not from 100 West to 500 West. And that's an important distinction because we go from Main Street to 100 West is very, very urban. It's very narrow and the buildings are right up next to it to um past 100 West where the creek starts to spread out and fan out and that's just what it does down there. So, we're talking about two different types of improvements and a pretty big price tag, but it's probably going to be in that ballpark, especially when we consider bridges and and things like that.

Michael, when and how do you suspect that will go public? Is that will that come to council? Will it be a public like an engagement process or

Yeah. So the the concept we're talking about right now is being talked to with stakeholders, meaning the property owners in the area and our staff is is scheduling a public meeting to have an open house and then it will come to the council and the council will be informed about all of the feedback that we received from the public and then from there we'll get direction on on if we are to proceed with with the design down in that area. Thank you. The next one I think is something I people have been waiting for. We heard somebody talk about it today, which is Swany Park improvements. Now, I've up I've upgraded this one a little bit. Um, last time you saw it was $50,000 and and now it's $250,000. And the reason for that is that um after talking to some some people and and learning about um not learning about but just just becoming more aware of some some um we already were aware of the needs. Sorry I started this off like this but just talking more about the timeline of this thing for the skate park is what I'm talking about. Um, we think that what we should do down here and what I'm proposing with this budget is to actually do a a master plan for the project for Swany Park, but do that master plan. Um, we already know what Swany Park is. do it to the level that we can confirm everything we need to confirm about the use of the park and then se if the skate park is to stay part of the park which it's probably going to be proposed that it is staying part of the park that we separate at that point and the skate park gets designed separately. So this is actually two projects. One is a master plan for the park so that we're totally upfront and we're informing everybody of how we see the park developing or staying the same going towards the future and what kind of improvements we can think about.

And then also if the skate park is staying there, how this how a new skate park, maybe a larger skate park, will interact with the rest of the park and not diminish the activities at the rest of the park. Um once that is done, then the the rest of the the project is actually the design of the skate park and it probably have lots of different amenities like skate park. Um there's there's a lot of other different things down there that we'd probably throw in. We are looking at a grant for this, a $200,000 grant for this and then another $50,000 would be the city's match. Um, so that's that's one of the big changes this year that um that I put in there and that I'm recommending. And then the year after uh we've got that $2 million and I'll show you here in a minute. But with with all of these projects um I have uh let me highlight it. I've kind of estimated out in the in the following years kind of where that money would come from. And on this one, you can see uh it's this line right here that's highlighted. $2 million most likely coming from grants. I I don't want to portray here today that there's enough money in wrap tax or enough money in the CIP fund balance to construct the park today. But we definitely can get on with the design of it. And with the design, we can apply for grants and start looking for the resources. And that could also always be moved over into bonds, other types of things like that. But just wanted to put that out there as far as um resources go. Uh so that's that's one change for this year. Um the rest of it should go pretty quickly. Uh I'm going to jump past these ones. line parks a access. That's a grant that was uh granted quite

a long time ago before Alexi and I were doing what we're doing now. It's for non-motorized access on the Lions Park side of the park. Um I did not budget anything in the year after. Uh this is just for the this is just for the the exploration of that. Um and uh kind of see where that goes and then look at the next year. So that's a grant that we've already received funds for. We just have never I believe it's a reimbursement. Um the funds are available to us.

Okay. So and then I've talked to you about the MRAC. We've got a lot of improvements going on the MRAC this year. Uh some other major maintenance projects on the outside of the MRACK uh that we've talked about uh previously. And then the outdoor water feature replacement. We did have that in the following year. we move that to this coming year because we think we can get that done in this coming year. And then I will uh the Pack Creek Bridge is moving forward. The property acquisition, this is just one of the things that I recommend is that we always have $200,000 in that account just in case a small piece of property or an easement comes up that we can purchase to continue a trail somewhere or get some rideway that we need to to expand trails and things like that. Um golf course. I know we're going to talk about that later. And uh the USU building is just the remnant of the traffic light up there. Transfer to fleet fund. The CIP has always paid for vehicles. This is no different. It's just now being transferred to the fleet fund. Um any questions on the regular CIP before I do water?

Oh, I did um about the playground. Is that for the um you circle or um the mountain view? Yeah, the mountain view. It's not actually. Um I believe that they already have facilities to put into that playground that they're planning on putting in that we already own. I I don't believe there's a plan right now. Hey, we should do a master plan on that one actually. But I don't believe there's a plan to put in a new new feature like was in there before. or I think it's being replaced with a um Do you want to come up here?

We removed the dilapidated Margo round. We replaced the the aged swings um in replace of the merrygo round. We're putting a picnic table um a new picnic table for the kids to enjoy. They can't go around spin around. They can jump off of it. They can go under it. They can go under it. Taking them a monkey bar picnic table. Yeah. They will never know the joy of climbing off one of those metal things in July.

But this brings up I mean this does bring up a point that we do have aging infrastructure. We've got a lot of deferred maintenance. This was a deferred maintenance issue that turned into a safety issue that we had to take care of pretty quickly. But um the master plan uh I believe addresses these things and we should be bringing back uh some projects to actually bring our some of these older parks up into compliance or or more fun make them more fun at least. So it's like for Father's Day when you get your motorcycle taken away and they give you some garden shovels or something. That's exactly what it is.

The shovel's safer. what's currently in the proposed budget um is a porn place for Rotary Rotary Park like we have at Swany for the play. So that's soft fall stuff that's really nice at at that you circle or whatever it is or pet Rotary at Rotary. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. That that my goal was what what was that 40,000 for? So thank you. Is there is there appetite to put in the budget some, you know, some playground equipment for that circle? I mean, because it sounds like it gets used a lot. And is is there um

we we might be able to figure something out with our existing budget. Um, we could do some research on that and if it's I I agree we need to look at this and see if maybe there's something we can give back since we took something away, but we might be able to handle it with the existing budget in the current year actually. And if we can't um the the next year's we'll try to do it with that and if we have to do an amendment, we can bring an amendment back to you. But, uh, weren't she talking about a swing set down there? Um, we replaced the the two dilapidated swings. Okay. So, you did request the swing.

We did we did hear from one one citizen their their kids did use the merrygoround. Outside of that, the rest of the feedback we received was uh kids playing soccer and football in the grass area. I'm sure if we put the playground, it would get used. 20 people get 20 different right ideas on what to do with that area and stuff. So, um Okay. Billy, um, we done. We have some questions.

Yeah, I was gonna after your questions, I do want to go back and talk about bonds and how where the revenue is going to come from to do these projects. So, but yes, I'm we're ready for questions. So, I guess my questions was is in this budget, um, did we budget in to one of the 50 different budgets that we have? And I apologize, um, it's somewhere else, like putting in the the flashing hawk lights. I think that's, you know, um, you know, like down by Spitfire and up by the, we talked about three different locations and stuff. Is that in the CIB budget or is that in like the roads budget, you know, and did we budget for those? The roads budget definitely has money for maintenance. We haven't developed those projects yet. So the actual dollars for those specific projects are not like allocated in here, but there is money in the budget for those types of projects. We need to design those. We don't know what the um what the cost will be for each one of those yet. Um but but it's it is something that can be handled within the current budget.

Okay. All right. Within the proposed budget, I'm sorry. within the proposed budget for 26 and for what's left over of 25 for the proposed budget for 27.

Okay. Okay. And then um when you have things like um which we'll be talking about a little bit like golf course um capital improvements you know um 150,000 where's that coming from? That is simply coming from CIP which is um coming from property tax. Now, that money is supposed to be a loan. Now, that money, the the $150,000. Now, we're going to talk about the lease later, but if that were to go forward, that money would be available for a loan to the golf club, our lease, to do capital improvements on the golf course. Um, and they would pay that back over the period of the of the lease. So, when we're we're approving this budget, we're approving that money coming out of um out of property tax.

Yes. Yeah. So, I guess um that would be something that I would I personally would have heartburn over that coming out of that pot, you know, if you will, and stuff. And um just because I I I just have issue with that, I guess. Um, and you know, if it was coming out of like the general fund or another fund or something or I just have issue with that pot being used for for a loan for for that. Um, I'm just going to say, you know, so I don't know if there's some of this other stuff, you know, like the property acquisition is that coming out of the property tax pot, too. Yes, CIP. That doesn't mean we're going to spend it either.

No, but we're alloc we're we're approving it by doing this. We're approving it to come out of that budget. That's what I Well, I think it's good to talk about what resources we have in the CIP because we only have a few resources. We have um we have property tax which is the biggest resource

which you can see here transfer from the general fund which is $3.6 million. Um actually let's go to this year. Sorry. The um of all of the transfers the the biggest amount comes from the property tax. This amount down here this 1.62 622 million is property tax that is held in reserve from the previous year. So that is the majority of where our money comes from for the CIP. All of these other projects where you see transfer from storm water, transfers from sewer, transfer from water, those are going to pay for specifically water infrastructure that is embedded within larger projects like 400 East and 100 West and things like that. and that money can only be used for those types of of facilities. So, so really thropy tax is our our main um by far our main uh funer or resource for the CIT. But when you're talking about like like the pool like the playground um um water thing that's the kids play on

um is that coming from wrap tax or that's coming from CIP? It's coming from wrap tax. Okay. Okay. So there's there's a um a transfer from wrap tax that goes to pay for things like that. Yeah. And I can that's what I Yeah. So, so that's what we're seeing these transfers for is the ones that qualify where we do have a qualifying project that another funds restricted funds can be used for. We transfer that money into here to pay for it.

Keep in mind also with the property tax, property tax goes into the general fund and we just as a as a council wanted all that money to go to CIP projects. So the money even though it's, you know, it's that that's how much money we collect, it goes into the general fund and then we take that same amount of money and transfer it into the CIP because that's where we want the money to go.

I I just want to be very careful like with the CIP projects, you know, um what gets allocated for that property tax fund I think is is important to any. Okay, move on. So, just talking about resources since we're there, the like I said, the majority of the resources comes from the property tax. There are other resources we're talking about in the first year like grants and um this would be the payment from the golf course if they were to pull out $150,000 if you even give them the opportunity to do that because we do have to talk about the lease. This is not something that's available to them today, but with a new lease that could be there. And then we have interest and things like that. The big thing I want to talk about is in the coming year. We've gota if we could do all of these projects in the coming year, which is probably unlikely, but we're trying to get to a point where if we had the funding to do it, we we we could do it. In order to do that, we have to pull resources. We have to figure out how to get the resources into our budget um that are, you know, four times more or eight times more than what we uh hold on. Now I'm now I'm feeling bad because I can't do math, but it's somewhere in that range. So, uh it's a lot more money in the next year. So, what we're looking at is we're looking at a bond potentially for $15 million, 15 million plus. But it also requires us getting grants as well. And we're talking about grants as well as federal allocations and things like that coming in. And then when you come down here and you look at the transfers from wrap tax and from roads funds and things like that, these are things we need to talk about as well. Because for instance, let's let's go down. Let's see what wrap tax is paying for in the next in the the next year. And this computer is moving

really slow. So, if you follow wrap tax down to the expenses, we've got $3.5 million here for wrap tax. That is potentially the funding for the ballpark upgrades. Now, the wrap tax doesn't have that much money in it. This is why it has to be draft. the wrap tax if it were to come up with that money, it'd have to bond for it as well. So, so there's lots of different things that we need to consider and there's lots of variations where this could these could happen, but none of those variations where we get money where we were able to do all these projects that we need to do. None of those variations don't include borrowing money and a significant amount of money in order to get these things done. Um, we've got critical infrastructure projects. All of these, I would say, are critical, but then we have flood infrastructure projects as well that rise to another level of crit criticality. So, so I just wanted to point that out that next year part of getting the the shovel ready projects going is so that we can apply for grants. Part of it is so that we can we can also go out for bonds. And the bonds would be paid for by the enterprise funds for the portions that are enterprise related and by the property tax for the portions that are capital improvement related in the general capital improvement sense. Questions? Kaitlyn, you don't have any?

I don't. Well, I'm I'm interested to talk more about like the specifics of bonding. Um I think I have more questions about how uh 28 will go and um the transfers from all of the funds $25 million in fund transfers is significant. So, some of my questions are future pacing about balances and

yeah, there's a lot to talk about because not all of these funds like today have that amount of money in there. Um there's we we didn't really talk about water and sewer, but we have gone over those before and they haven't changed and I'd be happy to go over them again. But the um we're we're doing water and sewer master plans in this coming year and a lot of that is so that we can look at our rates so we can look at the projects that are coming up for potential bonds going forward. And u so there's yeah there's a lot a lot to talk about here. There's a lot of responsibility that comes with running a city and a lot of aging infrastructure when we're talking about deferred maintenance over decades where the city didn't have the resources to to do the repairs that needed to be done. And now we're trying to catch up with all of those things. And and this um this playground that you're talking about is one really good example of that. we're kind of behind the eight-ball now because we've had to take things out and we don't have a plan for how to repair or replace those things. So, it's a good example of how deferred maintenance catches up with you and before you know it, you're like I said, behind the eight-ball. So, so, so this year's goal again is trying to get get ready for uh the coming years and trying to get positioned so that we can get the funding for those coming years. And I think just as a reminder, the bonding, you know, 25 million is a lot, you know, but we talked about doing a bond that we wouldn't use all of that property tax money to pay off that bond, but it would help us kind of consolidate a lot of projects into one bond. So that we kind of are tying up that property tax money to get these projects done. So that's kind of what and and we will you guys will have we'll have a conversation about what we would like to see in that bonding package

28. Well th this has 15.7 million for the property tax bond and then an additional 25 million in fund transfer. So so it's also looking at water bond sewer bond all yes the full package of the bonds. Yeah, the full package is large.

Um the biggest one in the in the transfers from um the enterprise is the storm water fund and that is uh a big part of that has to do with the two projects that have to do with flooding, the 300 South Bridge and the 100 or the main street to 500 West because I I mean that should be paid for mostly by the stormwater fund. Any other questions about the CIP?

I'd like to kind of echo Jason. It's not as much a question, but um as we talk about these funds transfers, I would like to see what we can do to make them easy to understand for the public. You know, I want everybody to understand what what their property tax is actually paying for versus what is coming from another fund. And I want that to be like this is tricky for me to understand and I've been coached through it. Um, I'd like to see what we can do to make that apparent because I had the same confusion as you did coming into this meeting until that explanation. So, it's helpful to understand that that property tax is being used for those critical improvement projects that are streets and stuff like that. And that if there are parks or other things being done, they're being done from a parks fund and that's coming through a transfer. Um, so that people know that we're we're not spending that property tax on things that we didn't agree to spend it on. So,

anybody else? Thank you. Thanks. Yeah, and we'll refine this process. Like I said, you know, this is all new administration, new ways of doing things. And so, eventually we'll get to a point where you're actually voting on a two and fiveyear budget in two to five years. Okay. So, um, moving on, the we have a public hearing for the resolution 042026, a resolution to adopt the final budget for fiscal year 2026 2027. I'm going to open the public hearing at 7:34. And Michael,

I will save your presentation unless you want one. Um, I I will go over a couple of points uh just for your information. Um but I'll I'll save you looking at the screen some more. U the budget the budget has um pretty much stayed the same from the tenative budget. We have made some changes but starting off with revenue the uh the revenue from the general fund and the expenses from the general fund match exactly. There's a 5.818% 818% increase in expenses in the general fund and there's a correlating 5.1% 18% increase in revenue as well to offset those those impacts. Some of that is a is a rollover from this year to the the coming year that we're going into for funds that uh weren't expended in this year. Um taxes are are doing really well. Again, I reported this before. Overall tax increase is about 3.5%, but in these last few months, we've been seeing a a larger uh tax increase month over month. When you compare this month to the same month last year, this year is doing a lot better. I think we've we have um guessed that it's because of the weather and lots of different things going on. 60 years of Jeep Safari, those types of things. But we're looking at increases in taxes this year. the the percentage of increase for the next year's budget is not based on what we're projecting though. Um it's based on the actuals from this year. So it's a 3.5% increase from the actuals for this year. Uh next we have expenses and uh there uh the general fund has stayed exactly the same as the way it was presented to you as far as the bottom line goes. We did have to move a couple little things around, but the the bottom line stayed the same at $23,900,000.

And that again is a 5.1% increase or 5.2% increase. The roads fund increased, the wrap tax fund increased, the sewer fund increased, storm water increased, and vehicles increased. And I wanted to explain those just a little bit for you. The roads increased because of striping, patching, public works yard repair work that needs to be done. And so those are those are projects that and that's what I'm hopefully going to show you with this is that those increases are going to go directly towards improving facilities. Uh the wrap tax uh has to do it's an increase because of MRAC fitness equipment replacement and then that transfer for the um for the water feature as well in the CIP. The sewer the reason why it increased is because we had to increase our depreciation. And our depreciation was way low last year. And as you know about depreciation, that's not money that actually leaves the account. But we have to show it as an expense. It just never gets debited from the account. But this year is like $799,000. Coming year $799,000. The previous year was I think it was less than $400,000. Uh storm water increases because of flood mitigation and repair. This is anticipation. A lot of it is anticipation. It's not projects, but if we have to respond quickly to um flood repair to do flood repairs, this is where the money would come from for that.

Sharing your screen for the public. Sure.

I thought people were just sick of seeing my screen. So, um, that's the wrong presentation. Hold on. Just I'm sorry. I exited out of this. I'll share my screen. I got it. Okay, here we go. In just a second. Ah, there it is. Okay, so um I was going over the next slide down. We talked about expenditures. I had talked about the the areas that were increasing. These are the areas that are increasing. You can see um at the top is the general fund. It's a 5.18% increase, which is the same as what the tenative budget was. Roads, wrap, sewer, storm water, vehicles. Those all did increase for the reasons that I had just laid out. The only one that I hadn't gotten to yet was vehicles. And the reason why that is increasing is because um public works and utilities have uh requirements this year that need to be met and they're large pieces of equipment, but money is being transferred from enterprise funds

into the vehicle fund in order to um to offset those expenses. One of the things is a is a backhoe for instance and and these things get pretty expensive. It's not just a vehicle but equipment that will have for a long period of time that they rely on. So um any questions on that? So the total increase over all budgets for operations is 7.9%. The total increase for the general fund which is the largest budget which has almost all of our departments in it is 5.18%. So when we when we talk about budget increases, we'll generally say the budget increase was about 5% or 5.2%. The 7.9 most of that, as I showed you just now, is in enterprise funds and is coming from user funds to to pay for things that are uh funded by water, sewer, storm water, things like that. So, uh, CIP, I won't go over this any more than I already did, but, um, the, uh, the total CIP, if you include water, sewer, and storm water is about $19 million for this coming year. The biggest thing in there is in the water, and that's the $5.6 million for the water tank. Uh, going forward, that's, you know, the water tank on Spanish Valley. So that's the biggest expense, one expense by far. The rest of the expenses we already talked about, which are the uh the design uh costs for for those getting those projects shovel ready. So my recommendation to the council is that you approve the final budget. I believe it's a it's as lean as we can get it uh and be able to meet all of the requirements that we have to provide the the u to provide the services that the council has prioritized for the community.

Questions on the budget? Oh, it's a public hearing. Anybody from the public hearing like to speak on the budget? Council questions. I have one question on revenues on the budget. How come um wrap tax is zero for 26 and 27? We moved rap tax into its own fund. Oh, okay. Uh so you'd have to go to the to that fund to find the revenue. Thank you. Anybody else questions?

So I have a question. Um, and it's there's some nuance to it, so I'm going to phrase it carefully. Um, I'm curious why when we decided to go from the uh housing stipen for PD to that becoming a line of duty stipened, why that decision didn't come in front of council. And I want to preface this by saying I've been spending a lot of time with PD. I am I have a whole new outlook on their budget and the like their deservingness of a uh of a line of duty fee. They do put themselves in harm's way to protect our community. I have a whole new respect for that. What I am uncomfortable with and what still sticks with me is that it was kind of a staff decision to go from something that was supposed to support housing to something that's a line of duty choice or a line of duty stipent. And while I have no problem with them receiving that line of duty stipen, I feel like that should have come to council in a budget discussion to say, "Hey, we are no long we no longer need to provide them with this housing stipen. We have a fully staffed department and we're very excited about that, but we would still like to provide them with a line of duty stipened. You know, how does council feel about that versus that decision happening at a staff level? I feel like that would have been more transparent if it would have come in front of council."

Well, a couple of things. is one, it was not a budget amendment. It wasn't a budget change. And budget changes need to come to council because they're changes in expenses and those types of things. This this was a change to what it was called. And it wasn't just a staff decision. This was discussed with with certain people. There were people involved in making this decision. And it was just the change of basically the way that I see this is that and I I do this sometimes with the budget. I I'll change like I showed you the main street to to 500 West project. I'm going to change that to Cross Creek's project. I changed the name of what it was to be more consistent with what I believed the intent of it was. The I know that it was called a housing allowance, but it is it is an incentive and pure and simple. It is incentive pay. And so we had talked about it internally and and talked about what what potentially we could call it to um to just call it what it was so that it didn't come across like the um some employees have housing issues and other employees don't when really this is all about getting officers to come to Moab um to work here to come from up north and stay here for periods of time so that we could build our police department back. So, I didn't call it an incentive pay. I called it a line of duty pay. We talked about it. We went around a little bit, but the reality is is that it's not a housing allowance either. It is an incentive uh device for the city to give money to officers to to so that they have a perk so that they looking working here looks better than working in other places. And my understanding was the previous city manager um that when we implemented this, they we they wanted it to be a line of duty pay and the previous city

manager said no, you know, because we were trying to get offices here and housing was the issue then. And so that's it was like that was what it was initially supposed to be called. So we just went decided well let's just call it that.

Okay. And I mean I I'm not again not uh unhappy with it in its existence and not unhappy with calling it a line of duty. It just felt like when it was called housing, it was like well do other departments need this support? Is this something that we should repurpose or otherwise? And it felt strange to have it go from like no, we won't talk about repurposing it for other departments or otherwise we're just going to call it line of duty and keep it as is. um which I feel like I was confused about which to me says that could have been mildly more transparent. But otherwise I just that was my my only sticking point and I wanted to say that out loud in a public forum

and and I just want to say that just for anyone listening the amount that is in the budget today is the same amount that was in the budget previously. No, no changes were made to the amount that officers received for this incentive pay which is $500 a month. Correct. And this is sworn officers only. Anything else?

I I just want to point out that the the reason we're not having a more robust discussion about this is because we have had these these budget workshops all spring and and I think Caitlyn deserves the credit for really pushing that and and encouraging a little bit more development of the budget as as we go along in the process. And so thank you very much. Yeah, that was a really I thought that this budget process was was very informative and very well done. I was gonna say that's exactly what I was just gonna say too.

No, you like it less eloquent than you do. Um, no, I was gonna say like I don't really have a lot of questions because we've been doing this, you know, for the last, you know, eight weeks, you know, and stuff and so it's been um a good process this year.

And we'll continue that. All right, I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing at 7:47. And next up, we have a consideration of resolution 042026, a resolution to adopt the final budget for fiscal year 2627. Motion. I move to adopt resolution 04-2026 approving the final budget and setting the certified tax rate for the city of Moab for fiscal year 2026 2027. Motion by Tom. Second. All second. Second by Jason. Discussion. Tony. No. Jason. Anybody else? None.

All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed? N. Right. Let's do roll call. Miles. I um Caitlyn nay Colin. Hi Connie. Hi Jason. Hi. Motion passes 4 to1 with Caitlyn in opposition. All right, moving on. Our last agenda item is the golf course consideration of updated commercial lease agreement between Moab City and the Moab Golf Club.

So I'll give a brief introduction. We have Richard and and Robbie here to talk as well. Um, going back to the presentation. So, go ahead and come up, guys. Um, the Moab Golf Course The Moab Golf Course is land that's owned by the city of Moab, but it's it's run by the Moab Golf Club. It's an 18hole golf course that was established in the 1960s and has always been run by a third party. The the to my knowledge, the city of Moab has never run a golf the golf course. We didn't establish the B18 holes. It was something that was established by the golf club and we've been working with them for a long time on this and we we do appreciate the relationship we have with them. Um the golf course is located in the city's water source protection area which is one of the biggest uh reasons why this area is not developed and is is a golf course as opposed to um condominiums or something like that. So, um, people see a golf course up here and and wonder if that's the right thing for the area. And I think, yeah, it is in this case because, uh, it does provide a good protection area for our our water source. Our wells are located, a lot of our wells are located in this area. I have a new lease that I want to show to you. The last lease was signed for the golf course for 10 years. It was signed in 2020. Uh this last couple of years we've been talking with the golf club about this because we have some some things we wanted to iron out and to straighten out a little bit that I'll talk about in the next slide. And we asked our uh one of our attorneys who works with us, Chris Mcanneen, if who

works out of Grand Junction, if he could work on this contract for us, and he drew up this contract for us. The highlights of the lease and then I'll turn it over to these guys because I know you have a lot of questions for them. Um the highlights of the new lease are that it would go from 10 to 15 years. The the lease right now expires expires into 2020. This would take it out to 2041. Uh the rent formula is largely unchanged. However, in the old lease, it just said um something about uh a percentage of of profits. And we tried to explain what profits are. um what net profits are as opposed to uh total profits of the golf course. Um but the formula for rent is is basically unchanged from the two. It just is more it's explained better I think in the new one. Uh it does provide for citybacked funding for capital which we've talked about. It's not a given. It's something that has to be approved and that they have to have qualifying projects for. It's it they just can't come and withdraw. So, you don't have an ATM that they can go to with the PIN and just withdraw the money. It's something that we would work together on. The the new lease has enhanced public access and environmental protections, uh, which you can you can find in those. And if you want references to any of the areas where I'm talking about, I can give those to you. Uh, it's a more formal modern municipal lease structure where the old one was was, as you saw when I sent it to you, was very short. This one has a lot more protections for the city, including but not limited to expanded insurance and liability protections for the city that are necessary for us to have. The main goal in getting this new lease going forward was to establish who had responsibility for what at the golf course. Because the golf course is is

Yes, the golf course property is owned by the city of Moab, but it's a golf course because the people who lease it made it a golf course and run it as a golf course. We like it as a golf course. We want it to be a golf course. Um, but I just wanted I want to be clear on that. This the um the city owns the property, not the operations of the golf course. the operations are run by the Moab Golf Club and have have been for quite a while. So, I um that I think the lease is pretty good. I know there's questions about it and I think the mayor was going to we were going to talk a little bit about this and then see where you guys want to go, but I think the main thing you guys want tonight is to ask the golf club questions. So, I'll just turn it over back over to you guys.

Yeah, I just want to make clear they're lease in effect right now. So there's no urgency. If you guys feel like you need more information, we need to look a little closer at the lease, have more conversation, we can absolutely table this and it's not going to harm anybody. So I just wanted to put that out there. That's something that you might want to consider doing tonight. So Robbie, Richard, tell us about tell us tell us.

Well, thank you for having us. Uh we have been partners since the 60s. That's so our pardon me our organization is called the Moab Country Club which is probably a bad name because it's not a country club. You can join the country club which would allow you to serve on the board and that would be about where your membership ends. Um, so we operate this, we try and make this something that is attainable for citizens of Moab. You know, we live here. We want this to be a place where people can afford to play golf. Um, kind of no doubt this is definitely funded by tourists. Know the tourists are going to probably pay the they're going going to pay the highest rate. And with that model, we have been able to keep prices affordable. I don't think that we give away golf to locals. You know, I think that can always be kind of a problem that you have this course that nobody's paying for, which and I think as you can see in some of the fees that we have, you know, we have multiple levels of uh golf passes. So, there's the rack rate, which currently is $76. That's 18 holes with a cart. Probably a titch high in Utah aside from St. George. Um, and then when you start to get into pass rates, we we offer a $45 pass, which is kind of the the best local deal if you're going to be a light user. And we have another one that's 200 $200. And And all of these there's an additional

daily fee everybody pays as well. And so th those were instituted to, you know, to make it to where somebody who pays who plays the most is going to pay incrementally more as they keep on playing. So it wasn't like somebody just punks down 500 bucks and then they could pay play 300 days a year and then it netted their cost down to five bucks playing golf. Um the infrastructure at the golf course is aging. So the the biggest the biggest issue we have is the irrigation system. So the irrigation system out there is now probably 40 years old. You know when the course was expanded in the mid late 80s and it's It's just a constant battle to keep that running, working, and able to able to make the course good enough that we can charge a high enough rate to everybody that we can sustain our our operations. And

what could you guys there was an issue last year. Could you talk a little bit about that and where we're at now? We have heard some

Yeah. So it's so that in 2024 we made a poor hire in the superintendent that we brought in and consequently the conditions of the course deteriorated. Um by the by about August we had to make one of our greens into a temporary green. So, we're playing in the 14th hole was reduced down to like a 100 yards and then just kind of a hole cut in the middle, you know, and some of that was, you know, somebody that came into the came into the position irrigation system was definitely old and but uh and so from that point in 2024, you know, we made a change in personnel in 2025 hired a guy and he did a wonderful job of getting the course back. We still were playing on the temporary green through June of 2025 and then by 2025 we had all 18 holes and and by the fall of last year the course was back in really good condition. I mean, it's it's you're not playing Augusta National, which is a famous golf club, but uh but the conditions were back to where I think everybody was proud to be playing there, you know. And then over the winter, it's been a dry winter, it's been a hot winter, and we have a 50% water reduction from Ken's Lake. So that's obviously going to be an issue moving forward. We're going to have a lot of brown spots. We're going to we're going to go backwards in some of the conditioning. There's kind of no doubt that's what's going to happen when we're operating with that much less water. And I would say that's probably one of

the more unique features of our relationship. So we we use well number seven from the city and that's primarily in the offseason when Ken's Lake isn't on. But the the primary water source is Ken's Lake water, you know, and so that's and that's probably the bene one of the benefits of the city that we're transferring water from there and putting it into where the city draws their water from. where other wells were culinary use.

And that's one of the changes with the new lease is that um we're before they could have used well seven if Ken's Lake wasn't working well like this year. The new lease has exclusion times that I worked with Obi on where it's our peak times during the year. um they the golf course can't actually use the well um so that we can ensure that we have we can make enough water to or treat enough water to get to the public for those times. Can I give a quick overview of how we got here?

Sure. Um just for those who don't know me, I'm Richard C. I am president. A couple of years ago, as Rob was talking about back in 24 when you're having all the problems, we also had some a lot of uh flash flood damage across some of the holes. We had rocks washed across some of them. Um we had damage to our irrigation system. So we had formed a small committee um to look at what was going on. And that committee came back and said, you know, we should be doing a lot of capital improvements. We don't have any money to do any capital improvements. So, um, lo and behold, around a year ago, the, uh, governor's office would, um, advertise for one of their grants, an economic rural economic opportunity grant or something. So, we put in, we realized we had to go out and seek help from the city, the county, whoever we could go to. But we needed a plan. Just like you're going to do a plan for the ball fields and the playgrounds and everything, we needed a plan. We could say, "What's the current condition of the course? What do we want it to be? What do we need to do?" So, we applied to the governor's office. Lo and behold, it was one of the top projects. It was the top project in Grant County. um working with with Michael with the city. Um we now have a pot of approximately $100,000. We've hired a consultant. They're here. As part of that project, they'll be looking at the physical conditions,

what's there, but most important most important part of that study is the economic impact analysis that we're going to do with the National Golf Foundation. What they are going to look at all the tourist trends and and how many room rates you can expect from your golfers, etc., etc. and hopefully come back to us with um a very positive economic impact that we can show to you, to the county, and others that the course generates x millions of dollars a year in various taxes. So, we know how important it is. Next weekend we have almost 200 ladies coming to Moab to golf. Around 20 of them are from Moab. That's how important that's how many people we get coming to our golf course for some for our tournaments. And every day you go out there. Where you from? Oh, we're from Tucson. We're coming through. Oh, we're from Salt Lake. So many of our players are from out of town and we need that revenue to help us grow. We need your support. this agreement that we're looking for tonight, this this lease modification or new lease, the 150,000 that Michael talked about, that's seed money to us after we get our master plan, which should be done the end of June. Um, that will lay out opportunities. What do we have to start to look at? They're not construction. We would need

to take it to a next step. But what we hope to do is identify, you know, we need system, but what are the other things we need? We've talked about adding pickle ball. Perhaps we have a our snap bar. People can play go to snack bar. We've talked about other improvements, but we need to establish through this master plan. What is the vision? What do we what do we need? And your support is going to be tremendously helpful to us because we see us as the Moab golf club. It's part of Moab. It's not private course. We see ourselves as as a municipal facility.

Yeah, it's it's not exclusive. It's definitely inclusive for everybody. Couple things, you know, the the uh our junior bro golf program is really popular. Usually have 75 to 100 kids in that each year. In the rounds report that I gave you, you could see they're we do about 500 rounds of golf from kids each year, which super proud of that. Hopefully some of these scientists will become part of that. Um, in the short term with that 150,000 there, we already started some upgrades to the irrigation to kind of get us past where we're we currently exist, you know, to where we can get all of the heads at least on a central computer, you know, and we started per so we purchased. So, our previous superintendent, he uh moved on to a different club, unfortunately for us. But when he did that, they're redoing their irrigation system. So, we have So, we purchased their controllers. Now, we need to purchase the computer software from Toro. So this part of that money, that's what we would use the 150,000 for, you know, and and we see that, I think, as kind of just like a line of credit that we want to take that and what, you know, we certainly don't want to take the full amount without having something ready to put in place to make an improvement and then start paying that. And if we can, we want to pay it back faster than in the 15 years.

We have any other questions? But that's in the short term that's really what like that 150,000 is direct investment into what exists out there currently because this master plan that Richard talked about I mean that's that's a long ways down the road and we need to look at the immediate future and health of the of the irrigation system and in turn that that's what will make the course the best playability related that can be Colin.

Um well, I I believe the golf course, you know, especially if it's wellmaintained, well functioning, is a great community amenity both for for locals and visitors. Um as we're considering this this pretty long duration lease um with with pretty significant financial obligation from the city. Um we were presented yesterday with with your financials which um to me I didn't I didn't find confidence confident inspiring um confidence inspiring in terms of uh getting repayment on the money that that we would be uh loaning you through this this lease agreement. Um can you please tell us what you're you're doing right now? what you're focused on to, you know, bring your financial situation around and recover it um to where, you know, we would feel better about

Yeah. So that great great point and we definitely operate on a shoestring

budget. Um, so CO was probably the best thing that ever happened to golf and it was probably the first time that we had paid, you know, we had a net profit and we paid the city and that was in 20ou and that was in 2020. In 2021 it was we were like zero. I think it I don't think they ended up paying an actual payment in 2021, but you know, as it as we in 2026 currently, we're at I mean, I think this is kind of a trending MOAB in general. I mean, things are looking really good. I mean, we're up almost 30% right now. So I feel confident that that COVID boost a aside from 2024 the end of 2024 through the first part of 2025 I mean was just an absolute killer in our our brand you know and I I feel confident now that the course's back is is back in good enough shape that I mean we're busy And the busier we are, the more we're generating, you know, as Richard spoke about, it's getting the high-end rack rate, you know, at 76. So in 2020, the last half of 2024 and the first half of and all of 2025, we reduced our rate, you know, which I mean that's going to make a huge difference now because we're almost like, you know, it's almost a 10% increase in revenues, but that would mean we're about a 20% increase in traffic, which which hopefully those trend lines

continue and that would mean that you know always managing expenses and trying to get that to where those things line up. you know, using some of this money as kind of a long-term payment. You know, when we don't have to replace every val, if we can make a bigger investment at one time to replace valves, valves and controllers, and then have that spread out over time, I think gives us an opportunity to repay that. But I I can see your point that you look at the last two years. I mean, we were living off of our success in 2020 and 2021.

Yeah, I I guess um I'll I'll I'll dive in a little further on that. Um because you did have a good year in 21. Um I think COVID and the community continued to move in 22, but you haven't turned a profit since then.

Um and you've been burning cash. um in a way that, you know, makes me feel for sure. Like I I I don't think it's the right decision for the city to sign a 15-year lease because I think that also gives indication that we're continuing the status quo. Um and I think we're we're having this conversation right now because it's not status quo and you guys are doing it that master plan because we need to shift into a new direction. Um, and so yeah, so just kind of leaning further into that, I'm I'm curious why you reduced your rates, um, even a couple times even coming into this year. Um, looking at the the user data that you sent us, it it appears as though there hasn't been a significant change. Um, looking at other course rates, Moab is still significantly lower than other municipal small courses. Um, looking 2021 to 2025, income has gone up $30,000. Expenses have gone up $200,000 year to year. So, one side of the budget is growing, one side is not. I'm curious I'm curious why you don't produce budgets as a board um and as an organization. Um, yeah, I I have a lot of concerns about the finances and and I think thinking about um at least from my perspective, I don't think that I'm alone sitting up here on this, but um thinking about providing a loan for irrigation. Um I think that that can't be thought about in a 15-year loan term payment. Um I think that that needs to be thought about in a much more aggressive timeline. Um, within the context of a master plan, $350,000 is also going to be a drop in the bucket of what the capital cost is going to be

that comes with this master plan. Um, so yeah, I would love to hear what you're thinking about in terms of increasing your revenues beyond be Yeah, I think even in terms of increasing green fees and rates and all that,

I think with the with the master plan, it's probably trying to introduce new revenue streams. So, one of the things that's uh doing an enhanced driving range and and short course, something that's very family friendly that can attract people that don't have all the time to play a round of a a typical round of golf, you know, and I I and enhance clubhouse facilities to where that can be something that is more of a revenue driver for us going forward. I think that's what I think that's what we want to see from the master plan and the potential of what that has to to increase that. Um, I know you talked about you didn't want to have condos necessarily, but that also be something that,

you know, if not, you know, where all of that general land is, there could be something for like golf course, cabins, cottages, or something.

I don't want to jinx any master planning things. My comment was more why the entire property isn't developed. Um, but I do want to say really quick, you know, when when you guys came to me first a couple, it's almost been a couple of years. Um, there was a request because it was a downtime for you guys for the city to participate in um, funding some improvements. And one of the things that I said back to you guys, if you recall, was, well, how do we know that these improvements are going to uh, result in something? I mean, that's where the master plan idea came from. And we're like, well, why don't we why don't talk about this? Why don't we look at doing a master plan? And the idea, at least the the spirit of it would be that the improvements that they make should, well, we would hope anyways go towards um improving the course, which would improve playability, which would increase players, number of players, number of rounds played. But I think um that's that's one thing. But I think the council is um is also concerned with you know if you do make these changes um what there's not a lot of confidence in in the business practices that um will need to be in place to capitalize on those changes and make sure that you are capitalizing in a way where you're bringing in more money from those improvements. So, and I think that's that's the main thing I probably the council wants to talk about with you guys.

Yeah. And if I could um you know, part of me is like you guys back in the 60s whoever built this golf course, you know, or something, right? Is is what I'm assuming happened, you know, that there's um Ukrainian guys wanted

Yeah. You know, so some at some point Moab City said, "Hey, we just want the wells protected. We just want our, you know, water protected. Put a golf course on top of it. You know, kind of do your thing, you know." concept is kind of what I assume kind of happened when we kind of step back. So, at this point, I kind of feel like, you know, should we be um should we be getting into the business of other people's businesses on, you know, the golf course, you know, stuff? You guys build the golf course. It's your guys' business. You guys are doing stuff on it. However, um on my end of it that I've I've been kind of looking at this and and kind of trying to figure this out is that we don't want to run a golf course. We don't want to get a golf course back. We we want the golf course to continue on and prosper and to um to be because it's a huge part of this community. I mean it's it's it really is a great part of the community. But um like like these guys have said like the finance like we've been getting letters you know and stuff you know from from people and um you know saying like you know like this about the golf course this you know what's your what's your people's feelings you know and there's people's whatever you know is going on out there. But um as I've been kind of like looking at like the financials and stuff and kind of going like you know I like I asked Michael um I go one of my concerns was is that there's a 1.5% you know that you guys give back to the city of um gross profits and um and there's been that's only happened like once net profit

net net profits in in like difference yeah net profits um in in the last you know however many years you know is that I I think that you're you're talking about it was $560 or something like that. Um and so I was but then I was like asking Michael, you know, like well how come we don't do 1.5% of gross, you know, and that that was what the lease was in 2000 2000 to 2010.

Yeah. So, um, so I I was told I was like, though, those guys said if we did 1.5% of gross profits for the year, um, it would put the golf course out of business, you know, but when you do 1.5% of 1.2, two, you know, it's $18,000, you know, and which is um basically $1,500 a month, you know, and and in my in my head, I'm going like, you guys get this golf course that's beautiful, amazing, for $1,500 or this property, you know, I should say, and and if we say 1.5 gross, it's going to put you guys out of business, you know, and stuff. It was like that was that was kind of concerning on my end of it. It's like, wow, um $18,000 in rent. um you know um I'm not doing that, you know, and and that just kind of struck me. But then when I looked at the financials and stuff, it was you know, every year it was um in the whole like $78,000, you know, in the whole $36,000, in the whole $90,000. And my question was is um is is that a um is that an accounting function? Is that like a depreciation, you know, that's plugged into that which takes it down to that amount, you know, or are you guys really going in the hole each year 780 $90,000 each year where those where's that money coming from? you know, if you guys, you know, and and if it is an accounting function where you're taking depreciation, you know, what is the profit um when you put that depreciation back in again? You know, what's your, you know, um and um you know, because there's no way you guys are are staying in business, I would think, if you guys are losing $80,000 a year over over 15 years.

Does that make sense? Yeah. And so um and so and and I and I get the whole taxes thing, you know, whatever you know, stuff you want to get, but also too from the city's point of view, if we were getting a little bit of rent each year, you know, if we were getting $18,000 and just putting it into an account that helped us maintain the wells upon that property, which everybody's using, you know, that's a benefit to the um Moab city taxpayers, you know, if you you know, instead of us having to pay that out of pocket. That's helping help us helping you to keep your business going. That makes sense. But there are things like the state charges. You're not a Utah resident, you pay an extra $18 on top of your green.

It's not enough. No. So the state the state charges not here. out here in a state court like Wasach Mountain or so they charge any out of state and other cities around the country sometime like um in California primarily like Tory Pine right resident you can pay senior resident it might be $38 if I walk over there and I want to play it's about maybe on the south coast about $262 $2 same same course same no and I get that

so we've worked it our we've made the decision that at least now that we weren't going to do that because if we started we want to be a resource for our visitors but as part of that master plan they are going to look at every phase of our operation okay but are you losing $80,000 a year in cash No, no. The that's an account. That's an account. The depreciation over the last 5 to seven years has been about 35 to 45,000 cash. So, so we so we have 60,000.

So, so there I mean really from two we could basically get to about zero. you know, there would show a loss, you know, kind of in the 2000 2010 to 2019, you know, most of those years we would be able to kind of be somewhere where we were literally breaking even. And then we have the 2020 2021 where where we did well strangely. But but the last couple years then we've hemorrhaged cash. There's kind of no doubt, you know, and it's and it's from conditions weren't what they needed to be and play dropped off,

reputation management got off, you know, so all of those things. I I do think that from the last half of 2025 and this first half of 2026, I'm optimistic that we can get this back to where to where we're we're definitely solvent and able to pay that. you know it's and not to mention as as the as the uh fees increase I mean that obviously that helps too but there is a ceiling on what what we can charge out there you know for a public course there is a ceiling of what of what you can charge and still you know you can't just say we're going to make it $200 and if we're

we don't want to make this lease le something where where you fell. That's like the whole goal. Like it does none of us any good

to make a lease that um that is is too much where you guys fell. And I think we want to see you guys succeed um you know and yeah I mean that's so that's trying to figure that out. you know, and I think uh kind of back to the the uh the previous leases that we had where we we did pay one and a half% of our gross. That was what the lease was. You know, probably from like 200 2000 to 2010. You know, 2008 was obviously kind of a difficult time. And so then it became, you know, what we were paying the city didn't mean a hell of a lot to the city. But, you know, the 10 or 12,000 bucks that we were paying for for that one and a half percent, they're like, "Okay, well, you guys can keep that to

to keep funding your operation to put it back into the golf course." And that's

that was the main driver behind that. And then in 2020 the lease was going to come up and I think it was I think it was probably done hastily trying to get that done and through co it was and then that was the one and a half% of the net which I mean I agree with you that's there hasn't been a payment other than $500 you know and if if it did if you did say okay then it's one and a half% of of your gross. And like you said, that's but I think that's something that you can stomach and say, "Okay, okay, do we have $1,800 a month commitment we have to do to pay the city?" But in turn, there has to be some minimum that I think the city wants to invest into their own infrastructure as far as as far as their property. You know, it's like if we're renting this building, you know, if I want to change the light bulbs in here, that's on my dime. But if the roof's leaking on us, then I think that becomes abs. Absolutely. And so that's kind of like what part of my thought process was like even if we were charging 1.5% of of of gross and taking that $18,000 and putting it into an account that helped maintain the golf course, you know, and the stuff, then when it came time to come up with $150,000, you know, it's easier for us to say, "Hey, yeah, we can take this pot that um that you guys have helped build and put it back into the golf course to um to sustain it as, you know, a tenant landlord agreement, you know, and stuff like you know, or or some something like that. Um, another question that I had like with the new lease is that we have um, you know, insurance requirements, you know, and have you guys looked into those insurance requirements and what what what those costs would be and are those crazy, you know, I know sometimes

these are it's an insurance policy, you know, could be $10,000 and is that um, is that sustainable, you know, and stuff or Yes. Yeah. I I would I kind of think our current insurance policy Okay. Our insurance our current insurance would be kind within the same realm. I think there there might want to look at that closer because there might be some additional requirements in there.

Um so just take a closer look at that. You know, as I said, we don't want to charge $125 like golf courses over St. George. We know that most of the people who are coming here are coming here either go to arches, they go on hike or canyon lands or they're going to go out tingling or in their ATV and that's all great. The average stay in Moab is is what 1.6 days for a visitor. I think that's what the county believes. We've been talking to the county about using TRT funds with Brian Martinez and Nick Solita and those folks about once we figure out what we're going to be when we our plan, how do we go out, how do we sell this? But we we want to remain that course that we're never going to be St. George where there's golf courses and people flock here and they retire here so they can golf and play all the time unless they're me and some others might be there. But we recognize that people are coming here for a lot of reasons and we want to just tap in a little bit to that and we don't want to charge them 125 $135. We're kind of caught. We're not a p We act like a municipal course in reality is how we operate. So we're we we we're not like a private course that's trying to make tens of thousands of dollars on their operation. We'd like to get some more money building up for capital, but our goal is

to have something that locals can enjoy that visitors will come and say, "Man, did you play that moment?" Of course, that was great. Next time we go, we're going to stay another day. I'd like to disagree with Richard. We would like to make tens of thousand dollars. Oh, and I would

Sorry. I'd love to. And and Richard, I would I would push back and say that, you know, that the that that expense is going to fall on somebody, you know, to the expense of of operating this business. And and you know, what we're looking at right now is that expense falling on the city and more importantly falling on, as we learned, our taxpayers who, you know, property tax. And uh you know, that's really concerning to me. And so I, you know, I think that with everything that's been said and I I hate to cut this short or what, you know, we can keep talking about it, but what I would like to the way that I would like to proceed is to table this for tonight. And I, you know, I don't feel comfortable signing this lease. I think that this lease needs to be looked at. I think the duration needs to be greatly adjusted. Um, I think that we need to see a lot more um uh to to build our confidence and and make us feel like we're you know, this is this is a good investment for the city and uh you know, we need to have some internal conversations and and I think that the best thing to do tonight is just to to to not approve this lease as is uh to reexamine it. I also don't want to throw out this relationship. I think that we've had this relationship for a long time. It's important to me. Um, and so that's part of the conversation, too, is is how do we make sure that everybody in this relationship uh, you know, feels like it's benefiting them and and you know, how can we get it to a point where, you know, this golf course is back to where, you know, we're not getting comments about it and it's operating and it's benefiting all of the community and the visitors alike. And, um, I think that is a a challenging task but a surmountable task and and I think that we need to power longer around it.

And Miles, before before you speak, I would just like to say that this, you know, when everything's going great at the golf course, we don't hear anything and we don't pay attention. And so we are a little bit remiss also because since I've been here, I've never seen your financials. You guys have never come and talked to us about anything. And I think having an ongoing dialogue with you guys on an annual basis once we get to that point where we're all comfortable is something that needs to continue because honestly I mean we have not had any conversation about the golf course until tonight. And and I just feel like we haven't been doing you guys any service by by not having you come here and tell us about all the great things you do, all the problems that you're facing, those kind of things. We haven't had that one-on-one until tonight. And I think it's really important for us to continue to have these conversations on an annual basis. We can talk about your fees. We do. The lease does give us the ability to change the fees. And I think if we're going to do that, we don't want to just arbitrarily make that decision. It's something that we need your feedback on if we're going to increase those fees. So, I just want to make that point. We, you know, this is the first time we've talked about it and I think we need to continue to have that dialogue. We thank you so much because you're right. We've all I think we've had an arms length relationship because you said things were going well. Um, as infrastructure continues to go like this, you know, it gets harder and harder to to keep it operating at the level it should,

right? So, we really appreciate the time that we could come tonight and talk to you and and please come out to the golf course anytime you want to come out. We'd love to have you. Yeah, come visit and we'll take you around. You can see it. And I think that's something, Richard, we want to do is to have a little tour, but I'm I'm going to call on Miles and then U, Tony. Yeah. I just I wanted to echo I mean, I genuinely believe that the golf course here could

could return to being a real asset for the community. Um, and I I la your opinion of like wanting it to be a municipal golf course or something that is attainable for the residents of Moab. And I think at the end of the day, looking at the finances and otherwise, like that is a that is a app a praiseworthy ideal, but we need to be able to have enough confidence in your ability to fulfill this lease, repay these debts, and like currently this isn't quite it. Tony,

I just I want to echo what everybody else has said. I I think that the golf course is a great asset. I am not a golfer, so I don't know what makes a good golf course. Um, greens, green grass,

green grass. Um, I too am concerned about the financials and I want to kind of liken this to what we as city councilors have to do in our enterprise funds. That's our water, our sewer, and our storm water. We're mandated that those those funds support themselves. We don't want to raise your sewer rates every year and we don't want to raise your water rates. Sometimes we have to and we're mandated to. They are supposed to support themselves and I would feel a lot better if I felt like the golf club or the golf course was supporting itself like those funds do. So then Jason and then I'm going to ask for a motion to table.

Yeah. Um and and just to that point I I I've looked up it's $17.50 50 for nine holes at so Mohab it's $10 has been $10 for the last six years $750 to run nine holes at Carbon County it is $36 at the high out in Montello it is $19 at the St. George Municipal Club to to walk nine holes. I'm looking at the websites right now. I think there's a significant difference and and so that that's that's and I I want for you guys to know that the city is bringing all these all these things up because we want to support you. We want for to support the club board in starting to turn these conversations around. It's not us trying to attack you. It's us wanting to just have open conversations because at this point the finances are fully public um for the community to see and and I think that that is going to be a little painful. Um but I think it's important for the club to to rebuild and succeed this master plan. Um some things I'm thinking about in terms of the contract um just starting out for consideration. I would love to advocate for a city council person to sit on board during this um shorter term lease. I'm definitely supportive of a shorter term lease. I think any um capital uh contributions need to be through a separate contract and not in this lease directly. Um and should be coming to the council anytime those are requested. Um and I think those are some of my big ones. Jason.

Um, yeah, I just gonna kind of echo that, too. And stuff. And I I just want to make it very clear that I think all of us want to see the golf club succeed. We want to see it prosper. We want to see it thrive. And, um, and it's on your guys' shoulders to to pull that off. And we want to be a part a good partner with you in in making that happen, you know, stuff. And, um, you know, um, so I I think that as we as we go through this process that um that we that we don't come across as being like oh you guys you know we don't support you because we do but we but we want to see um you know we want to see move forward in a good positive way that thrives for the community support so um yeah so I think

I'm Michael do you want to take one

yeah just just really quick I I think the um I know we want to get going but the we have come a ways with our discussions and and the golf course, in my opinion, has, you know, a year and a half ago when I first took this job, I'd go get my haircut and I I was afraid to tell people I was a city manager because they were talking about the golf course and how the city isn't supporting the golf course. We had conversations about this and and I've seen these guys kind of pull themselves up by their boostings a little bit and and I've gone out there and observed things from going from not a great condition to a pretty good condition. Now, that doesn't answer all of the questions that you guys have or anything like that. And I think your questions are 100% um valid because you are subsidizing the golf course by not charging them any rent. You are subsidizing the golf course. I think it's completely appropriate for you to to delve into this and I'm happy to to continue to work with these guys as we go forward. We do have a lease right now. Um we we do appreciate you guys running the golf course because otherwise it would be a liability for the city. That that property would be a liability for the city and and we we do appreciate that. Um, and uh, we look forward to I look forward to working the with you some more and seeing if we can get to a good place.

What would happen? So, what would happen next is I would meet with the council over the next couple of months. Uh, it's going to be a little slow, but we have a contract right now or we have a lease right now. We're okay. And we'd come up with a couple of concepts. One of them would be a shorter term lease and and it would have a lot of the things that we talked about in the lease that I've proposed here tonight. Um but it'd be shorter term as we work towards um some some resolutions,

right? And I think you know we meet on a monthly basis. will bring Michael and I meet with the council and you know you guys will be a part of it. It's a negotiation and we just like everybody said we want the golf course to to be the best that it could be and so um probably I'm thinking probably fall August or September by the time we have you know we all may maybe sooner we'll see where where it all goes. I know some of us want to come out. I haven't been out to the golf course in a long time and so I'd like to maybe come out and hit some balls and check out the course and not with Steve by myself and um maybe with Jason. So, but we've been out a while.

I know. Um anyway, I think that's where we'll go with this you guys and you know come to something that we can all feel comfortable with and that helps support you and and makes us feel really good about where we're going. Looking forward to that master plan. I will be meeting with the consultants on Monday, I believe. So, I'll get a better sense of of what where they're going and what the whole thing is and I'll share that all with these guys and um we'll just go from there. So, more to come. Okay. Um could I have a motion to table? I'll make a motion to table. Motion by Miles, second by Second. Second by Colin. Any further discussion? Miles?

No. I I I would love to, like we said, I would love to see this be successful, but we need to make sure that we're going to see a possible return on this and make sure that this is going to be a good thing for the city. Colin, anybody else? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? I think um motion passes. I think um one thing that I really want us to see is that we meet with you guys at least on an annual basis. whatever outcome we come with, I just feel it's really important. We've been we've been neglectful in ma and making sure that you come and talk to us and update us. And that's something I think is really important just to maintain that partnership. It was a good start. Yeah, absolutely.

And we'll talk about that landlord improvement that the pump thing. Yes. $25,000 vow. Yeah. All right. Thanks you guys. Good to see you. Thank you. Take care. All right, have a good night. Yep, you too. That's the end of our general business and we will move on to city manager updates.

So, I think I've exceeded my words for this evening, so I'll make this quick. Um, arts and a happened last week and we did have a booth at that. Uh, the city Obie and uh and Levi were there as well as myself and and um Alexi and Lisa Church was there as well and we answered questions. We talked to people. Uh had a good time. It was it was a great event and we talked mainly about water conservation at at this one. Uh the business license renewals will be going out via email. So, if you're listening, you have a business in town, look for your business license renewals. They will be coming via email starting on Monday, May 18th. Uh just met recently with the south southeastern Utah watershed council looking at priorities for the southeastern watershed of Utah and uh some regional priorities. I think the group is going to be getting together to rate those priorities and send those up to the state. uh coming up soon. I will report on those when when they have a list. Uh we just had a uh we have a police officer opening right now on our website, but we also had a police officer that just recently graduated from Post and um Brandon Woodward just graduated and he was graduated with honors apparently and was awarded the physical fitness award for his uh entire academic class. so academy class and he was sworn in as a uh Moab city police officer today and that is it for me.

Thank you, Michael Miles.

Okay. Uh I'm pretty light today. So I had a nice meeting with Michael about a variety of budget uh options on the 30th. Um I also went to Arts and Act and got to see the city booth in action. Good to see them getting that uh water conscious um information out there. Uh so we had PNZ um on the 23rd. Sorry, I had to remember the date there. Um it was fairly simple. They had the housing task force update that you guys got to see today. So that was the majority of the meeting. Otherwise, there were some bylaw amendments that needed to be ma made uh based off of um new state legislature requirements. Um and then they're continuing to go through that land use summary, and it's it's all about putting uses into buckets so that they can figure out how to build the new zoning we're going to have. Um and then today I also worked with Alexi, Val, and Lisa to do some social media about the Utah Community Clean Energy, also known as URC. Um, we're starting to put out some information about that and what people need to know about that program as we get started in early 2027. And that's it for me.

Thanks, Miles and Caitlyn. Um, I also was at Arts and I believe that actually gave me a pretty hard time for not coming over until the end, but um, but loved it. Happy early public works week next week also. Um, and otherwise I just had a housing task force meeting. you guys heard the update. There's been a few conversations leading up to that, but we also had a pretty extensive conversation about the interlocal agreement. Um, and and I contemplated saying some of these things when they were presenting earlier, but the the big reasons why we're talking about those is because the task force doesn't follow open requirements. It's it's kind of this weird interlocal task force that was supposed to be a task force, but it's been around for 15 years consistently um but isn't through any particular like city or county or hospital. It should kind of exist in the middle. So, we're having conversations about updating that agreement to make it more clear what city count like who the host is. start posting on open public meetings um kind of formalize that body I think and we talked about kind of formatting formatting it to be a little more like trail mix where it's full community with different housing related representatives um so we have more of a diversity and it's not just me and Johanna and Ben Riley in

Have you guys ever thought about becoming a 501c3

um well no I I think we all just in addition to our 501c3 public jobs volunteer time towards it. But I think that that is a long-term question of you know a lot of other bodies that we report to committees that kind of thing are have staff reporting have kind of reporting requirements. So, it's, you know, is this the direction that city and county want to formally continue to have communitywide housing conversations? Does that run through a nonprofit or through the housing authority moving forward? I think that that's also a request for budget. It's we're we're kind of getting to a point where it's it's too much volunteer labor without dedicated like staff funding commitments. So I think in any direction, you know, I think we're seeking clarity. So, so we yeah talked about that agreement for a little while. I think that that'll start coming. We have a um joint city county housing subcommittee meeting next Monday to really start even negotiating city versus county on that. Um and then otherwise for the task force Um they are we are moving forward on the housing town hall again in July that's going to be a lot more expanded a lot more of booth outreach opportunities bringing in direct property managers and realtors and lenders and having a more kind of extensive half day event. Um and yeah those are the most exciting. Uh and that's all that I have. Thanks. Yeah. Um, first I just want to point out that our friends from Jeep have sat through this

buyer meeting. So if anyone questioned their commitment to that are this partnership or maybe they just don't have any place to go or I don't know here or they actually didn't tell you they're going home with you guys tonight. They are. Oh, it's like a Oh, this mean we never question why Lizzy's there bike.

That's right. Uh I'm pretty light too. I had uh so on the 29th the mayor and I attended that uh the up the creek um the the citizen scientist uh presentation up the creek and I just I you know I thank you for inviting them to the meeting uh that means so much and honestly that that's just one of the best perks of our job to be able to go and represent the city at those wonderful little community events and uh you know just big kudos to Katie a friend of mine who who's the teacher for that that class and really went out of her way to create a really really amazing program for them. Um, uh, the 30th I had a solid waste meeting. Um, just the regular talked about landfill closures, uh, equipment purchases and all that fun stuff. Um, on the 6th of May, I met with a downtown business owner. Um, we're trying to develop a plan to create a a some kind of system for or uh for our core downtown businesses to have a little bit more of a sort of a unified voice with the city and uh you know some kind of a force multiplier effect for their their input and and you know our our governing of of the city. Um they are economic engine. So, um that's that I'll keep you keep you in the loop as things progress. Um on the 12th I had it's today just before this meeting I met with a bunch of different stakeholders uh to continue talking about bike access into Arches National Park and um the focus right now is is uh both developing the the parks infrastructure you know putting shoulders on roads and bike paths and connecting different um you know high high uh interest spots with with both pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure. And then also looking at at developing

the entrance into Willow Springs to allow uh bicycles to to access the park in a different way than than uh you know vehicles on pavement. And that is it for me. Thanks Tony. I really don't have anything. I didn't have any meetings since our last meeting. Um, I just hope everybody that was a mom or a mother figure or a fur baby mom had a good Mother's Day. And I did celebrate my 30th wedding anniversary last week. Happy anniversary. Thank you, Jason.

Um, I don't have much either. Um, I didn't have anything till today, which um I drove back from Salt Lake as my my um watched my last kid um compete in a track meet and then hopped in the car and drove back down here for your last kid. What did you see other ones? Yeah. My last my last sporting event for the high school high school, you know, and stuff. I know what you're talking about. High school career as a dad. So, um

and then um I listened to the travel council meeting that I was supposed to be at in person, but they talked they had a really good meeting today and talked about a lot of really good things. Um, one of the things they did talk about that I thought was pretty interesting was they had from the film commission, um, from the state film commission, um, Valerie, I think his name, um, was came and talked in that the state kind of reduced the tax credit, the film tax credit from 12 million to three million. Um, and so it's going to have a pretty big impact, you know, and stuff. and and they were talking about how, you know, last year we saw the big bump because of the tax credit, you know, and we had Godzilla that filmed here and another movie filmed here and those movies are going to be being released. Um Godzilla is going to get released in the spring. Oh, nice. And they're trying to do um

trying to do some like or next spring of 27, March of 27. And um is this spring still? It's been a long day. Almost a long day. I'm on my third I'm on my third monster. So, you know, um you only had one meeting today. Um and um and then it sounded like that, and I don't know if the mayor has more information on it, but there is kind of an agreement in the works between the county, city, and the state to do um transportation into Arches. Um oh, I'll talk about that anyway. There's no um on that one

and talking. So, anyway, that's all I have.

Thank you. Um, like everybody else, I don't have a whole lot. I was on the river all last week, which was great to be disconnected. Really enjoyed it. We had lovely weather. No water, but lovely weather, not a lot of hiking. Um, and so I um attended the Arches Shuttle meeting yesterday with the county and um I I don't know anything about an agreement. I know that they have gotten a um they're working with the park service to to to get a CMA so that they can start shuttles in the park on September 1st of this year. And they plan to do a pilot September, October of this year and then March, April, May, June of next year. It looks like they're going to have 10 15 person bands. Um, there was some talk about how we would integrate the mat into this, but I think it's more, you know, having a dropup point within town and people can take the mat to get there. The park service is pretty um, they want to make sure it's a single shuttle that goes from town into the park as opposed to a shuttle from town to the business center into the park. They just feel like that's how it should work. Um, and it looks

going to manage it. Yes, the county. No, it's going to be Well, I don't know. They have to put it out. They're They're working with VIA, who's our our our people downtown or um so they probably are going to put it out for contract with somebody. Who who's the county? Oh, okay.

And so it's going to be two and a half million. It looks like It looks like um the um the park service has a million dollars from Centennial funding for 250 this year. um they have some funding available so that they would put up a million. Counties going to uh transportation commission on Friday to see if they can get another million and then it looks like the county is considering the half a million dollars out of their budget. Um that none of that's been approved yet, but this is what the conversation was on on Monday. So, we'll see where it all goes. I'll continue to go to those meetings and um keep you informed. U met with Melody U the chair from the county commission on Monday also just to talk about some city county issues and she and I will meet again in a couple weeks. Um and then on Thursday we have an infrastructure tour out at the Umpra site to look at what infrastructure they want to keep for future development. And I don't know Michael if you're going to be able to go to that.

We had two meetings at the same time. I think we need to coordinate right one. Okay. I think I'll do infrastructure. I can I can set or Yeah. Okay. Anyway, that's all I have and we do not have a close session this evening. So, I'm going to ask for a motion to adjurnn. Make motion to All right. We're journed. Thank you. Jason Miles. Oh, no. We don't have

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