Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

to order. Roll call. Genslinger here. Dunlid here. Osteru here. Schmidtz. Shers here. Sunny here. Bathkey. We have a quorum. Any conflicts? Seeing none, we're moving on to approving the agenda. Move to approve. Second. Moved a second that we approve the agenda. Any further discussion? We have nobody in the audience. We're ready to vote on. All in favor say I. All opposed. Motion carried. Next item would be to approve the minutes from the previous meeting. Move to approve.

Second. Second that we approve them. Any further discussion? All in favor say I. I. All oppose? Nay. Motion carried. Next meeting would be March 23rd. Set the date. Second. Second that we set the date for March 23rd. Any further discussion? Ready to vote then? All in favor say I. I. Oppose. Nay.

Motion carried. First item on the agenda then is a variance permit for Steven and Trudy Morgan. They've applied for a variance permit for side corner yard set back at 17.5 versus 20 foot for an addition located at 1421 Mitchell Boulevard. Property is zoned R2 single family residential. Mark notices were sent out to the neighbors published in the paper signs posted. There were four responses in favor that made the packet. Two responses in favor that didn't make the packet didn't have any comments on it so I didn't print it off for you. um applicant based on their application, they'd like to tear down the existing screened in porch and build a bigger one. The existing is about a 10 x 10. They want to do a a 14 by 14 for better living accommodations. Um if you look on the GIS, um it's this blue box right here. um which on this it's this part right here of the building that they'd like to tear down, build a bigger one so they can have more space in there area for that screened in porch um outside the site triangle by plenty. Um I can answer any questions that you have.

So is it additionally going to come further south than it is now? Yeah, it comes a little further south than what it is now. And is it going to be further south than the corner of the garage? It's going to be It looks like the garage is maybe our worst case scenario on that property. I think it comes a little bit further south than what the garage is at a little bit. Yep. Okay. It's just a corner really get close. Yeah. Yep. 17 and 12 versus 20. And that is a vacated alley right there as well. It's just not been shown on the GIS map. It looks to me like the house is in the 20 foot as well. So, we're not necessarily making this worse. Or is it?

The house isn't in the 20 foot. When they built this 10 x 10, that is at 20 [clears throat] foot back from the rightway. So, by extending it, that's where it comes into the the side corner. Have you seen a plan for this? They had the old plan that had the the 10 x 10 on there showing the 20 foot at that location and then they measured it out to get to the 17 and a half. like, you know, we're so close. My question is, can we can they just shift that addition up? I don't not having seen a plan, I don't know what the hardship is.

I can only tell you from what they have on their application. Well, they do build an angles, too. I'm just going to sh Looks to me like my opinion it's not going to really matter if they bump it to the south because that large tree is going to block everything anyhow. As long as the tree is there. Yeah. As long as the tree is there. That is true. And they're far back. They're quite ways off the corner. Yeah.

And the alley is vacated so nobody's going to come out the alley for traffic. Yeah, they came up originating what I said is the tree in the sight triangle. No sight triangle is 35 by 35 from

way out there. When we go to major sites here on the corner, we if we have one discrepancy that like lit and the chief police or police will come out major with me or major from the gutter pay 35 and 35 the other way and you got to be clear out there. I'm not necessarily opposed to it. I'm just asking the questions. I understand. Y yeah. And I'm trying to understand the hardships of it too, you know. So, well, if they planted all the lots nice and square long triangle

around that, we got several of those around the college like that. It was ornate. It was really nice when they built college years ago.

What do you think, guys? Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve it. Move and second that we approve it as presented. Is there any further discussion? All right, we're ready to vote then. All in favor say I. I.

All oppose, nay. Motion carried. Next item is a variance permit for David Baker. He's applied for a variance permit for front yard setback of 9.9 versus 25 ft for a threeseason porch edition. This is located at 400 West 14th Avenue. Uh property zone R4 highdensity residential district. Notices were sent out to neighbor published in the paper signs posted. Um there were no responses for or against this. Um the applicant would like to replace the existing deck and bring it out a little bit further to make a threeseason sun or threeseason porch. Um he is replacing his water and sewer line. Um so he's going to take off the deck. So that's why he wants to rebuild and extend it a little bit further. Um, he said that his overhang right outside the door is falling into deterioration. So, he wants to he wanted to just replace that, but then he thought if he could do the variance to come out further, he thought he'd go that route. I told him if he replaced just the existing overhang, we'd allow that without having to do the variance portion of it because it's right outside of door safety. Um, but with him wanting to do the threeseason sun porch. Um, and he does have a survey with it. It was surveyed back when he had the existing or the variances um back in about 2021. Answer any questions that you have for me with this. What was the previous variance? I vaguely remember it. Was it backyard setback or was it

It was garage and sideyard setbacks. Um, yeah, he had the opportunity to build it, but then the the setbacks, but he chose to go with the line of the house existing is what he did. He's right south, right? Yeah. Yeah.

I struggle with this one because that garage is a monstrosity and it's on top of Sandborn and now we're going to add even more to it. I think we voted against it. Maybe council approved it. I don't know how that went, but I don't know that I would have approved that.

And this is on corner the line sites. Everything is fence is back where it's at. Yeah, we had to measure that one.

So, he puts a threeseason room there. what keeps him from three years down the road and closing it all just making it a permanent four season addition. That's why we're treating it the way we are. We're treating like as if he's building on anyway. It's an addition. It really doesn't matter. So he can addition. It's a roof line where we're going to measure from. If you would close the interactive building envelope with some insulation or footing and there and such a good point what what do we do we catch that 10 years from now if he does it it's hard to go back and catch all those

right if he enclosed it he'd be required to come in for another building permit just like somebody puts a unattached garage out back and the next thing you know you come back 10 years later they've attached it and there's no building envelope and they've heated it. It's it's we talked about that a couple weeks ago it's a building official meeting it's happened all over. Sure. Did you get any letters back? There's nothing there. Nothing. [snorts]

Well, it' be different if it's on the other corner, you know, for the turning around and that, but you know, you're coming off sandboard and go straight across. I don't see any other comments or questions. Hearing none, we're ready for a motion. I would say either way, let's put it in the positive so we can vote yes or no. I'll make a motion. Then we have a motion to approve. Yes, I'll second that.

And a second. Any further discussion on the motion? We still have no audience members. Uh let's go. Voice vote, please. Hoid. Hi. Oster. No. Shers. No. Sunny. L. Genslinger. No. Motion failed.

Next item on the agenda is a plan approval for Hot Shots Espresso located at 322 East Havens Avenue zoned highway oriented business district. Applicant would like to put a bigger building where their existing is. Um right now they have an existing of 8 by 12. They'd like to bring in a 12 x 16. Um, it won't be any further to the south, so we'll meet the 30 foot uh front yard setback. There won't be a deck with it at all. Um, back in 2013, they came in for the plan approval for their existing building. So, we're following that same procedure for this one. Can answer any questions you have.

This is a permanent structure with footings, foundations, plumbing, all that. Or is it a floating? It's a floating just like their existing is. um they don't have water or sewer to the building. They have to haul that in. They do use the the building to the north for their sanitary if they have to go in and use the restrooms. Questions, comments? Hearing none. [snorts] We're ready for a motion. I move to approve. Second. Moved and seconded that we recommend approval. Any further discussion?

This would not be recommendation. This is just an approval. Huh? Yeah. Okay. I I don't know how much I want to open the can. Go ahead. We can talk about that at a different time. Okay, good enough. All right, we're ready to vote then. All in favor say I. I can. I. All oppose. Nay. Motion carried. Any other business come before this board? [clears throat] Hearing none, we're ready for public input. If you need to address the board on an item that was not on the agenda, excluding personnel items, please come forward to the podium and state your name and your concern. Presentations are limited to three minutes. Items will be considered, but no action will be taken at this time. Seeing no one coming forward, we are adjourned.