Township Committee - Regular Meeting

If we could all stand up, we're going to do a flag salute and remain standing for a moment of silence, please. Joey, you want to start us off on the pledge of allegiance? To the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you, everybody. You may be seated. Kelvin, if you can read the added notice of statement, please.

All attendees and participants agreed to conduct themselves in a manner appropriate for public gathering. Individual speakers should be advised that no right of privacy protects a person's public comments made in a public forum. Accordingly, all participants bear responsibility for their own statements and commentary. Correspondence. Letter from Arbor Day Foundation congratulating Milstone Township on earning 2025 Tree City USA. Ordinances. Second reading. Ordinance 26-08. Ordinance accepting conservation easements for portion of block 57, lot 17.02 and 17.03, now known as lot 17.04, located at 37 Burke Tavern Road. Explanatory statement. This ordinance accepts conservation easements for a portion of lot 57, lot 17.02, and 17.03, now known as lot 17.04, 04 upon completion of improvements and release of performance guarantees affidavit of publication is presented and I'd like to open up to the public at

8:03 you sorry 802 correct would anybody like to come up and speak about this particular ordinance okay being that there is nobody here I'd like to close it to the public at 8:02 Thank you Motion to adopt the table please I'll make the motion to adopt. Thank you. Second roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zeroski. Yes. Mayor Farah. Yes.

Second reading. Ordinance 26-09. Ordinance amending chapter 14 building and housing sections 14-5.3 applicability necessity to secure certificate of inspection of the revised general ordinances of the township of Milstone. Explanatory statement. This ordinance amends the applicability and necessity to secure a certificate of inspection as set forth in chapter 14 buildings and housing section 14-5.3 applicability necessity to secure certificate of of inspection. Affidavit of publication is presented and I'd like to open up this ordinance to the public at 803.

Thank you. Please state your name and your address, please. Steve Barmus, Six Lisa Court, Milstone Township, New Jersey. I I don't I unfortunately just learned a little bit about this ordinance and I'm trying to understand it a little bit better. What is it really doing? Is it just having another person, another government official come into my house when I'm trying to sell it? Please, uh, if you could enlight me a little bit better. From what I understand is that this inspection process is the addition of commercial properties. It doesn't change anything on a residential or commercial. It was always said residential. Sorry, what?

It was always residential. The audience always specifically stated residential. This change adds one word and commercial. All commercial. Okay. So, we've always had this for how long? 2009. So the original ordinance was ordinance number 12-09. That's how long it's been on 09. Right. It's not new. We just the commercial commercial. That's it. This particular order inspector to come to my house to to inspect that all the things I did was permitted or what is exactly is it doing upon sale or upon? I'm selling my house. I'm selling to I'm selling to Chris and now somebody's coming to my house to do what? All right. You want me to read it to you? Sure.

All right. No owner or agent of any owner of any residential and now they added or commercial structures shall sell, transfer, convey, rent, lease, subleasase, license, assign or otherwise permit occupancy of a residential and then they added or commercial structure or any part thereof unless such person or entity shall first obtain and possess at the time of such transaction valid certificate of inspection from the construction official,

right? I mean, that's what I that's what I read. So, I'm selling my house to Chris before I can. Normally, I just have an inspector come and he says X, Y, and Z is wrong, and Chris and I talk about it, and we say, "Well, you pay for this, I'll pay for that, and we're done." Well, no, that that's that's on on the personal side, right? You want to have a home inspector come in and inspect your the property that you're selling or purchasing, you hire an inspector to do that. That's not what what this is. This is a township inspector has to come and verify that, you know, on record, you didn't have a basement that was finished. Now you have a basement that's finished. Somebody's got an answer for that. And that's been on the books since 2009. That's not nothing new. Right. But I mean I mean if I had my basement finished and I didn't have a permit, that's on me.

Correct. Right. Right. Right. So So there's nothing. Right. But you're selling your property to him. So now it's going to be on him. Now it's on him. Now it's on him. Correct. Now the electric happens at that point. If the electric wasn't inspected, the plumbing wasn't inspected properly up to code and now it would actually have to be up to current. Wasn't inspected is now going to come up. Mhm. Right. And it would have to be at new code. Right. Right. So now we're just getting more people in there. You know, it's not more. It's making sure it's done safe. Yeah. I know. I know. I know.

So we'll give you a hypothetical. You decided to put a pool in your house. Great. You enjoy your pool. But there's wetlands in your backyard and you put half the pool in wetlands and now 15 years later you decide to sell your home, right? And somebody come and does an inspection, finds out that you put your pool hypothetically in the wetlands. Now, who's going to be responsible for that? You know, you you did that 15 years ago, but now you're selling the house. Shouldn't Shouldn't the inspection shouldn't the um uh inspector or the uh the uh person who's like doing the make sure everything's part of the permit, shouldn't they find that also? Correct. Because you're applying for a permit and you're going through the proper protocols. So upon

I'm sorry if I didn't apply for a permit. I just did it because I'm a bad guy. No, no, you're not bad. You just bad. But whatever the word is some other some I have an inspection done because Chris and I decide to do that. Shouldn't they figure that out? Whom? Who when you say the uh you're talking about the title search or building if you had somebody that's in it's home inspector home inspector right shouldn't they figure that out they probably but but they check all the wiring and check the plumbing check whole bunch of well it's making sure it's safe

especially commercial is why they're adding it now that somehow that had not been covered so now you have a warehouse that's being sold and if they did something that wasn't proper We we actually run into these things where people put in new walls and new I'm just trying to prevent too much. I already have an inspector come in cuz we're talking about things and I I decide the roof is bad or he decides he's trying to protect the buyer. I got another guy now. That's what I'm just trying too much interference. That's that's what I'm trying to prevent. First we're trying to protect the buyer. We're trying to protect everybody. How about the seller? How about the Milstone guy spend 25,000? Well, that's what I'm saying. Well, that's your home inspector. Right. So if he protecting you,

right? But if he if he did an inspection properly in the beginning, then I wouldn't have to need this extraction. I don't think you're talking about the same thing. Just clarify what you mean about the inspector who you refer. Well, what I'm saying is I sell my house and we and he hires a uh a person home inspector. Home inspector. And they they uncover 15 things. Mhm. But now I need another guy from Milstone to confirm or permit to say there's permits or it's not permits or you know so I have another layer but that's always been done since 2009 since they put this all this in place.

And I think the construction official is more concerned with life safety health issues and permitting as opposed to what a home inspector would find where he's not going to care if it's what if if the air conditioning is a little older and you guys negotiate that. He's more concerned with life. He's concerned about that the drywall wasn't put in or the drywall wasn't put in with the construction official. He's dealing with uniform construction code. So he's more concerned with that. So all right. So this is not additional layers just like you're saying you're just adding commercial to it. Correct. This is but yeah that this particular word is just literally the word commercial and commercial. All right. Nothing else is changing in that. All right. I'm just making sure that we're just not going down too many deep roads of too many government people getting into my house sale. you and I

I'm going to buy it, Steve. So, I mean, we're going to Yeah, we got to talk, you know. Yeah. No, it's not. This is literally just adding to I don't know who said the commercial properties, right? We're just adding to that because of same thing if you're buying a property and something was done and god forbid there really is an issue down the road, right? Then you then everyone's doing this. Why was it inspected? Did you pull permits? This is to try to mitigate all that right from the beginning. So, when you buy a new property in Milstone, you're buying it. It was inspected by the construction department. It's safe. You're good. He's good. Whatever you guys work out, great. As long as all parties are in agreement at that point that everything was done by code, then everybody's everyone should be happy.

All right. I appreciate that. I just want to make sure everyone's not adding another layer. Yeah. All right. Very good. Thank you. Thank you, Steve.

Dan Murphy, 38 Carriage Way. On the same topic, is there a list of what they're going to actually inspect so it doesn't actually grow as it's going? And I'm concerned with the same thing, especially with the inspections, the reassessments, and getting people into the houses, you know, is there a list of we're going to expect inspect these points? And then on on that end of it is who becomes responsible for it? Is the township now responsible if the inspector misses something in the inspection and the sale goes through and then somebody comes back to us and says, "Hey, something's worth wrong." Well, the township inspected it and said it was fine. Who's now responsible? Is the township on the hook for that? And are we going to put out an actual inspection list so everybody knows?

So, actually, there is an inspection list. It's actually part of that same ordinance. It's 14-55. It actually is called inspections. And then it says the following inspections are conducted and it literally lists them every single thing. I know back a few years ago this wasn't done. All you needed was a uh fire uh inspection and uh there was co was it co we didn't go into homes? I I believe also in 2018 2017 when I purchased my property on Sweetman's Lane we didn't have that. So this this is inspection is ordinance number 89-13. Okay.

So old. Okay. But they're going to go by So this one this one hasn't changed. You can look at that list and that's what you would go by. This one actually doesn't have any revisions at all to it. Okay. It's original. What about the liability on that? Who's actually liable if the inspector for the town misses it? I've seen that case come up. It's no different than when he issues a certificate of occupancy. So, he has to issue a certificate of occupancy for a change in ownership. So, this is a shift of inspection.

But if you say you inspected the house and they miss an inspection, who's liable for missing it? Is the code enforcer or the person who came out to inspect liable? I'm not dealing with hypotheticals. So, it's not a hypothetical. It is a question. The question is who's liable if the inspector misses something in the inspection on the list? Is the township liable? I'm not going to suggest the township's liable, but you're requiring an inspection by the township. It's DCA. I would assume without a specific case. I I I don't

Yeah, I think that's that's what the attorney is getting at. without a specific case. You could have that. So, you could have other scenarios, too. I'll give you an actual case in Long Island that's quite famous of of someone building a house and the inspector comes in and misses all the pilings that weren't put in properly and then all hell breaks loose because the inspector misses that. Who's responsible? That's a big lawsuit case now in Long Island. Is the township liable? Is the homeowner who bought the house liable? I don't know the answer to that. We have to do

something that I think should be discussed is if you guys are requiring these CCOs now and you sending in the inspector and we're required to have them come in, who's actually liable if the inspector misses something on the inspection? I'm sure the judge will be the one deciding it on the case of Long Island. We'll we'll figure it out. Get back to Thank you. Anybody else? Okay. Like to close the at 8:14. Thank you. Motion to adopt the table. I'll make the motion to adopt. Thank you. Second.

Second. Okay. Roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zoski and Mayor Farah. Yes.

Consent resolutions. All matters listed under item consent agenda are considered routine by the township committee and will be enacted by one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion on these items. If discussion is desired of any item, that item will be considered separately. 26-11 payment of vouchers April 15, 2026. 26-112 resolution authorizing award of a contract for emergency tree removal services on Brookside Road on April 6, 2026. 26-113 resolution endorsing a Mammoth County grant application from NVL Properties, Inc. for a 5-unit rental apartment building for very lowincome disabled veterans at 504 Eli Harmony Road, block 63, lot 20 26-114, resolution endorsing a Mammoth County grant application from NVL Properties, Inc. for a 5-unit rental apartment for a very lowincome disabled veterans at 478 Mammoth Road, block 60.01, 901 lot 10 26-115 resolution authorizing shared services agreement between Milstone Township and the Milstone Township Fire District for the continued provisions of emergency medical services.

Thank you. Motion to adopt the table. I make the motion to adopt. Thank you. Second. I'll second. Roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee Person Zi. Yes. Mayor Pharaoh.

Yes. Reports from various departments for March 2026. Tax collector $326,47145. Clerk's report $10,350. Dog license $97920. Municipal court $10,233.65. Recreation $37,467.78. Construction $34,792. COA of $5,258 and uh the 2026 interest revenue is included. Thank you. Motion to file, please. I'll move it. Thank you. Second. Second. All in favor?

I. Thank you. Township committee minutes, regular meeting minutes, March 18, 2026. Motion to adopt the table. I'll make a motion to I'll second. Second. Okay. Roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zoski. Yes. Mayor Farah. Yes. Executive meeting minutes March 18th, 2026. Motion to adopt the table. I'll make a motion to adopt. Thank you. I'll second. Awesome. Roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zoski. Mayor Pharaoh. Yes. Regular meeting minutes. April 1st, 2026. Motion to adopt the table. I'll move it. Mayor,

thank you. Second. I'll second. Thank you. I'll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zoski. Yes. Mayor Ferry. Yes. Executive meeting minutes, April 1st, 2026. Motion to adopt the table. I'll make the motion to adopt. Thank you. Roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person. Zaskki. Yes. Mayor Pharaoh. Yes. Applications for raffle/bingo licenses. Loom number 1459 Jackson Lodge RA number 351 on premise merchandise raffle to be held on June 19, 2026 at the Moose Lodge 560 Mammoth Road, Milstone. Motion to approve a table. I'll make a motion to approve. Thank you.

I'll second. Thank you. Sorry. All in favor? Hi. Bloom number 1459 Jackson Lodge BA number 352 bingo to be held on June 19, 2026 at the Moose Lodge, 560 Mammoth Road, Milstone. Motion to approve a table. Make a motion to approve. Thank you. Second. I'll second. All in favor? I hear and reports. We got a bunch.

Okay. The Open Space Preservation Council and Agricultural Advisory Council will be holding their annual clam bake on June 7th at Wagner Farm Park. Tickets are $60 for adults, $15 for children. Um if you want to attend, please um get in touch with Juliana Tessar, the Secretary of Open Space and Agriculture. And we are still looking for um other sponsors. We have a couple that have come in, but they are still looking for a couple more sponsors. The 2026 annual picnic in the park is Thursday, May 14th, 2026 from noon to 3 o'clock at the Thompson Park Activity Barn at 805 Newman Springs Road in Lingraftoft. Mammoth County seniors, adults living with disabilities, and veterans are invited to attend this free picnic with lunch, music, games, giveaways, and resources from county offices and community agencies. You must RSVP at 732-431-7450 because space is limited. The Milstone Township will be hosting the George Washington encampment to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the American Revolution on May 30th, 2026 from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. The encampment will be held at the Baird Homestead located at 24 Baird Road. The event is free and open to the public. Milstone Township and the friends of Milstone Township historic registered properties are celebrating our community and region's rich revolutionary war history by hosting this event. Attendees will have the opportunity to listen to 18th century music, participate in musket drills, visit a field hospital, and learn about how a colonial army on the move managed its cooking, laundry, and food. Live animals will be available to meet and greet, helping us to tell the story of the livestock that traveled with the army. The event is familyfriendly with activities for people of all ages. Free parking will be available across from the Barrett Homestead at the Milstone Township Middle School. Food and drink will be available for purchase from food trucks.

For more details, please visit the savinghistorywithfriends.org. And lastly, the planning board will be hosting an open house on May 13, 2026 at 7:30 p.m. at 2:15 Mellowstone Road for the public to attend and voice their opinions on the master plan documents. We attend you to we event we invite you to attend this event and participate in your your role as residents of Milstone Township. There's a lot ju just to reiterate uh the quincentennial celebration is May 30th. So it's at 11:00. Yep.

11:00. So it's going to be a nice day. So if you want to see how people lived in the 1700s, come and and enjoy that day with us. Uh, the only thing I'll share for recreation perspective is the Milstone baseball softball opening day is going to be this Saturday. Weather looks like it's going to be beautiful. 11:00 at uh the old MRL fields. So, if you want to come out, have a hot dog, watch a game, that's where you go.

Awesome. Thank you. Uh, I I met with our veterans council uh about two weeks ago. We're going to be meeting again tomorrow. Uh it's going to be about Memorial Day uh celebration and event and ceremony and parades. So as more information gets solidified, I will disclose that out to the public and hopefully you could put that day aside and uh come and support Memorial Day for Milstone and the veterans that gave up their lives for our freedoms. So please, if you have nothing to do that day or even if you have something to do that day, try to squeeze this in and support them. Uh that that's all I have. Any new business? Well, I'll go with uh some of you may notice that we've uh paved some roads lately. You know, Paint Island, Spring, Bear, Brewer. Um there's already been some accidents on it. You know, whenever we take out the potholes, people start thinking it's a speedway. Um someone has taken out a telephone pole. So, I've asked the troopers to uh enforce the speed limit. And they were out there first thing Monday morning and I think they pulled over a dozen cars. So, uh, be forewarned and please just drive safe. There's way too many accidents in Milstone for the number of of residents we have. And it's not all Milstone residents. Sometimes it's people passing through. But if everybody could be a little more courteous. Um, our DPW yesterday found a phone in Milstone Park with the the owner the night before said there's no way it's going to be found and retrieved. And she was happy and relieved today that it was turned in. and she was very thankful for the DPW guys. Um, mayor, besides that, we just

Okay. keep going along. All right. All right. Any old business? Okay. Any comments from the days?

Okay. I have a few. So, our annual brush drop off is commencing on Saturday, April 18th. Uh, following subsequent dates are going to be April 25th, May 2nd, and May 9th. Uh hours of operation are going to be 8:00 a.m. to 100 pm. Location is going to be 15 Bad Road across from Wagman Park. And please, you know, drop off your brush there that you clean your your properties with. Uh there's going to be a spring rumage sale uh sponsored by the Milstone Township Fire Company, Ladies Auxiliary. Uh, it's going to be a two-day event starting April 18th from 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. and April 19th from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Bring your own bags for the stuffer bag sale on Sunday from 12:00 p.m. to 1:00 p.m. Location is Milstone Township Community Center located at 463 Stage Coach Road in Milstone. Uh if you're looking for household items, linens, toys, tools, clothing, books, sports, you know, equipment, and everything else, you know, come by. The Mammoth County Board of County Commissioners and the Mammoth County Historical Commission are presenting the weekend in Old Mammoth. Visit all uh over 50 historic sites and museums for free starting Saturday, May 2nd from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Sunday, May 3rd from 12:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. From revolutionary wall landmarks to hidden gems, Mammoth County's rich history comes alive during a weekend in Old Mammoth. Admission at all sites is completely free. Start planning your journey by previewing the tour sites at www.visitmoth.com. And lastly, we have a paper shredding event. Uh the next one closest to us is going to be in Englishtown on August 22nd, 15 Main Street in the Municipal Building. If you have uh I believe 100 pounds of uh paper and you want to bring it, they'll shred it for you for free. All events are on Saturday from 9:00

a.m. to 1:00 p.m. unless noted uh with an asterisk, which this is not. Remove large binder clips. Any staples, paper clips can remain. limit of 100 pounds. So, if you have any paper that you want to shred and you want to shred it for free, bring it over to Englishtown on on August 22nd. That's all I have. Uh, at this point, I'd like to open up to the public at 8:26. Anybody's coming up. Let me turn the microphone on. Just turn the microphone. Was it on? Um, sometimes I turned it off. So, it's go going into my recorder. There you go. You're the audio guy.

I know. I'm the I'm the You just got to state your name and your adjustment.

Steve Baramus, six Lisa Court, Milstone Township. I don't I assume you know that the board of adjustment that I've been on for about 20 years has JCPNL in front of them. It we've already had our second meeting. Their third meeting will be this May. They are going to put towers that instead of being around 70, 80, 90 ft tall will be 190 ft tall, just under aircraft height to expand some BS that there's some windmills out in the shore that are going to bring the power into New Jersey. And I've been involved, like I said, for 20 years. And there's been three different times that the room has been overpacked with people involved in these different events. This was the largest I mean standing room only people out in the hallway because this is a very important issue of bringing towers that are that high in Milstone throughout the entire town. And they're going to meet again in May. And I don't know if you guys are letting the town know how important this is or how big this is. It's not trivial. These things are now going to be way above the tree line versus right now most of the the power lines are kind of about the tree line or maybe slightly above it.

So it's it's a big deal and it's in front of us in next the end of the last Wednesday of May. So, I just want to let you know that as far as public's concerned, it's very important and very influential in Milstone Township. It was signed by an executive order by the old u um governor of New Jersey, Murphy, who's no longer with us. An executive order, not even a complete total uh uh uh legislative thing. It was just him by himself. So, this whole thing is kind of smells and it's very disturbing. And I think Milstone should be more involved. I think that the room should be more filled than it is. I just want to let you guys know and maybe somehow spread the word. Absolutely.

Please come to our meeting in May, the end the last Wednesday of May, 29th, I think. Thank you. Yeah. Uh we could definitely send out an eblast to everybody that appreciate that. And we could also send out a nixel blast, which is a text as well to everybody. Let them know, you know, what's going on. Much appreciated. This this doesn't involve like three lots. This involves going through the entire town. 27th, I'm sorry, Steve. There is going to be capacity issues here. So you you may want to talk to your attorney about changing the venue to a larger. Otherwise, you might not have the meeting or you're going to limit people coming in.

100%. I would love to see that. I would look we one time when there's a cremorium crazy thing back in 2004 that was in the basketball courts

in one uh park. So I would love to see that again. So, as long as you guys are obviously you're aware, but I want to make you even more aware how important this is to uh the town and now this is not I was driving through um East Windsor not too long ago and I couldn't until you see how tall these towers are these these poles are and how impactful they are in visual. I mean, you know, and again, if it's needed for the town, if it's needed, but we all lose power all the time. This isn't really helping Millstone. This is just cutting through Milstone. This is, you know, if we were all had great power and none of us needed $12,000 generators because we lose power all the time. Steve.

Yep. Right there. There you go. You were on here last week and uh I I've been driving around other, you know, municipalities and I've been snapping pictures just for that reason. So, yep. I don't want them here either. We And again, if you had them here because we're going to benefit as a town and we're going to not need $12,000 generators each and every single goddamn household. This, huh? Are you going to be voting on this? I'll be voting on this. So, you might want to I'm just your, you know, conversation and research outside of the meeting hall.

I'm just telling you what I need to do. I need I have a $12,000 generator at my house. Why? Cuz I lose power all the time. Now, they want to put all this through us. And I agree with you 100%. We have to be careful how we present ourselves, but at the same time, this is important to the town. Yeah. I don't want you to have to be, you know, recuse yourself. Recused from it because the decision was made before all evidence has been heard.

No decision has been made, but this is what we've been presented with and now we're in the third meeting. So, this is not trivial. So, I appre I appreciate what you're saying 100%. So, as long as you guys are aware and you guys are getting it the word out. So the town really appreciates when there's towers going from 60 feet or 70 feet to 120 197 feet. This is this is very important to the town. There are a lot out there. 125 to 130 now though. Sorry. Yes. Yes. But we're going to 196. I know. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Dan Murphy 38 carriageway. I'm sure Steve was speaking as a resident of I just want to make sure he doesn't have to accuse himself.

I'm sure he's speaking as a resident. One of the other things that uh on these towers and I don't know if anybody else has noticed how bad the cell service has been lately all over the town. It it I think it was better 5 years ago the cell service and now it's awful. But they're taking the cell towers that are at the current towers that they're going to replace and they're going to remove them and you're not allowed to put any cell service on the new towers. So what is the effect going to be on the township when you lose more cell service? What is the effect for the emergency services? If you need to call 911, it's hard enough as it is. Just to give you a little more insight to what those meetings are going on. uh and uh you know 198 ft that's

I'm also worried about the vegetation too. Vegetation is a big issue.

The height and another thing he said executive order there was no executive order. I think JCPNL quoted they had an executive order to do this and then when we did the research there was no executive order granted. Okay. So, I questioned them on that specific topic and I asked them to quote the executive order that they had to do this and they said there was no actual executive order. It was a broad green uh a green agenda executive order, but there was no executive order by Phil Murphy for this infrastructure project. And that I asked them in the meeting to go back to the minutes and they couldn't cite it and then they sort of backed off on that.

So, make sure you come to the next meeting and and make sure you let the board know that. I it's on the record. Okay. All right. Very good. But the cell service really bad and they take these things down now. They're Verizon is adding a couple things that were on some polls. You know, by the school zone, there's always been a dead zone there. They're actually putting them on like a telephone poll like repeater type stuff. And then there is uh exploration of putting other cell towers on going in town as as we speak. Yeah, we we've been communicating with them for the last four years about self-service in and around town and around the school. So, finally we're making ground. You just recently approved the two by the schools.

Do do we know how many are on the current towers that they're looking to take down on on JCPL's towers? No. On the on the ones that are there now. I mean that effect of take down five and add two. I don't think anybody did that that we know they're on. I I think there's only a few going on. If you take down three and you add two, we're down one more. How about you take down three and then you don't add nothing. Then it's a problem. Another one. No, I I agree with you. It's not not good. Mhm. And uh I think there was something about uh eagle's nest on the towers currently.

There's been some uh eagle's nest on. They didn't do any uh uh studies on that. The wildlife that it's going to affect. There's a lot of studies. They didn't do studies on the well, how it's going to affect 40ft footings into the ground on each one of these new towers. So, uh, digging 40ft concrete right above the well, there's no studies on that. So, I think we should bring this all up at the meeting. It's all good. Thank you.

Okay. Anybody else? All right. At this time, since there's nobody else, I'd like to close the public portion of the meeting out at 8:35. Thank you. Do I have a motion to adjourn? I'll make it. Thank you. Second. I'll second. All in favor? I I time out. 8:35.