Township Committee - Regular Meeting

Evening everybody. I'd like to open up the meeting at 8:00 PM. I have 8:03. I'm sorry. I stand corrected. 8:03. If everybody can stand up, we're going to do a flag salute and just stay remain standing for uh our veterans and the daily party. Victoria, you want to start us off with a pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Everybody may be seated. You read the adequate statement of notice, please.

Sure. All attendees and participants agree to conduct themselves in a manner appropriate for public gathering. Individual speakers should be advised that no right of privacy protects a person's pro public comments made in a public form. Accordingly, all participants bear responsibility for their own statements and commentary. Correspondence letter received from Sharon Seaman dated March 25th, 2026 regarding pothole ordinances. Second reading ordinance 26-07 amending chapter 2 administration payroll of the revised general ordinances of the township of Milstone by fixing salary ranges of the township officials and employees in the township of Milstone County and of Mammed State of New Jersey.

Explanatory statement. This ordinance fixes salary ranges for township officials and employees for the calendar year 2026. Affidavit of publication is presented. I'd like to open it up to the public. 804. Does anybody have any questions about that specific witness? Okay. Being that there's nobody here that would like to ask a question, I'd like to close it to the public at 805. Thank you. Motion to adopt the table, please. I'd like the motion to adopt. I'll second. Thank you. Roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zabroski. Yes. Committee person Davis. Yes. Mayor Pharaoh. Yes.

First reading, Ordinance 26-08, ordinance accepting conservation easements for portion of block 57, lots 17.02, and 17.03, now known as lot 17.04, located at 37 Burnt Tavern Road. Explanatory statement. This ordinance accepts a cons conservation easement for the portions of block 57, lot 17.02, 02 and 17.03 now known as lot 17.04 upon completion of improvements and release of performance guarantees. Motion to adopt the table. I'll make a motion to adopt. Thank you. Second, please. I'll second it. Roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zoski. Yes. Committee person Davis?

Yes. Mayor Pharaoh. Yes. Second reading and public hearing to be held on April 15, 2026 at 8:00 p.m. at the Milstone Township meeting room 215 Milstone Road, Parideville, New Jersey. First reading, Ordinance 26-9. Ordinance amending chapter 14 buildings and housing section 14-5.3 applicably necessity to secure certificate of inspection of the revised general ordinances of the township of Milstone.

Explanatory statement. This ordinance amends applicability and necessity to secure certificate of inspections as set forth in chapter 14 buildings and housing section 14-5.3 applicability necessity to secure certificate of of inspection. Motion to adopt the table, please. I'll move it. Mayor, thank you. Second. A second. Thank you. Roll call. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee Person Zoski. Yes. Committee Person Davis? Yes. Mayor Phahum. Yes.

Second reading and public hearing to be held on April 15, 2026 at 8:00m at the Millstone Township meeting room, 215 Milstone Road, Pineville, New Jersey. Resolutions. Consent resolutions. All matters listed under item consent agenda are considered routine by the township committee and will be enacted by one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion on these items. If discussion is desired of any item, that item will be considered separately. 26-104 resolution authorizing an application and the acceptance of assurance to the New Jersey Historic Preservation Grant site management for the Clarksburg Methodist Episcopal Church Cemetery. 26-105, Payment of Vouchers, April 1st, 2026. 26-106 Resolution State of New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection Green Acres Program Enabling Resolution 26-107 Resolution appointing information technology system administrator 26-108 resolution of the township of Milstone to support county home funding provided to the affordable housing alliance.

Thank you. A motion to adopt the table, please. I'll make I'll make a motion to adopt. Okay. Second is Committeeman Davis. Yes. Roll call. Committeeman Davis. Yes. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zoski. Yes. Mayor Pharaoh. Yes. Resolution 26-109. Resolution to adopt temporary emergency appropriations number two. Motion to adopt the table. I'll make the motion to adopt. Thank you. Second. Thank you. Roll call. Committee person Davis. Yes. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zabroski. Yes. Mayor Pharaoh. Yes.

Township committee minutes. Regular meeting minutes. March 4th, 2026. Mayor Pharaoh, you were absent. Okay. Motion to adopt the table. I'll make the motion to adopt. Thank you. Second, please. I'll second. Roll call. Committee person Davis. Yes. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zoski. Yes. Mayor Pharaoh. Abstain. Executive meeting minutes March 4, 2026. And Mayor Farah, you were absent. Motion to adopt the table. I'll make the motion to adopt. Thank you. Second, please. I'll second. Roll call. Committee person Davis. Yes. Deputy Mayor Morris. Yes. Committee person Zoski. Yes. Mayor Pharaoh. Abstain.

Application for a char application for a charitable bin renewal and their renewals. World of Hope Recycling LLC. BIN located at Clarksburg General Store has received permission from owner. Motion to approve a table. I'll make the motion to approve. Second. I'll second it. All in favor? I. World of Hope Recycling LLC. Bin located at 899 Pionville Road. The parking lot over by DPW. Motion to approve at the table. I'll make the motion to approve. Second, please. Second. All in favor?

I. Cleanhouse recycling bin located at 519 Route 33 has received permission from O owner. Motion to approve a table. I'll make the motion to approve. Thank you. Second. I'll second. All in favor? I I Okay. Bas reports. Do you have any other things? Yep. I have one thing. So, the planning board will hold an open house to the public um on the scheduled master plan revisions. um come out to the open house, raise your concerns, your suggestions, and we as we prepare the master plan updates this upcoming year. The tenative date is scheduled for May 13th at 7:30 p.m. Thank you, Eric.

And the location is here. Yes. Yes. Just want to announce that we will be having our 20th annual stream cleanup here in Millstone on April 18th. Beginning at 9:00 a.m., we meet right here and we go around uh the stream banks here to pick up litter, any other garbage to so we keep our stream and water bodies clean. Uh there's a registration on the website, township website. So I encourage you guys to come on out and help us uh do the job and keep the Milstone water clean. Chris from the mayor.

Okay. I met with the veterans council. Uh we are preparing our festivities for the Memorial Day event. Uh there's going to be a parade uh and a bunch of other festivities, horses, cars, uh motorcycles, you know, boy scouts, girl scouts, and a bunch of other plus the ceremony that we do every year to uh to commemorate our fallen heroes. So please, if you could come out and show support uh May 25th, I believe it is this year. So it's a little bit early that that last Monday in uh in May. Uh again, if you're not doing anything, please come out and support our fallen heroes. Uh anything else? Any new business? Okay. I have a couple things. So, starting Monday, we have our curbside pickup, uh which is the bulk pickup that we do every year. It starts Monday, April 6th, and it ends April 10th. They're going to be going around the whole town. Uh the debris that you put out must be no larger than 5 by 5 by 5 foot. And there are several things that they will not pick up. Tires uh any kind of appliances, motors, oil, stuff like that. Uh if you have any questions on what you can put out, uh please contact Nick Prochini uh at 732-9172955 with any questions that you may have. Also, we have brush drop off dates uh that are that you could drop off your your brush on Bed Road. I believe the the dates that are left are April 18th, April 25th, May 2nd, and May 9th. It opens up at 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. It's located at 15 Bad Road. It's across the street from Magnafhone Park. Also, there are a bunch of uh dates for paper shredding, which is free uh to you guys and us. The the closest town that we have would be August 22nd. It will be in English Town at 15 Main Street at their municipal building. So, if you have a box that you want to shred, you

can take it over to them and they'll do it for you for free. If you have any questions, it'll be conducted on Saturday from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. and the limit is 100 pounds of paper. Also, we have a a spring rumage sale sponsored by the Mil Milstone Township Fire Company Ladies Auxiliary. Uh they have two events that are scheduled 8 April 18th from 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. April 19th from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Bring your own bags for the stuff a bag sale on Sunday from 12:00 p.m. to 1:00 p.m. located at the Milstone Township Community Center at 463 Stage Coach Road. If you guys have any questions, uh, please give them a call or I'm sorry, just email.

Yeah, email at mtfd207@gmail with any of your questions. And finally, uh, we have our annual clan bake which is June 7th on Sunday. There are two seedings. Uh, first seating is between is at 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. at 4 B Road, which is Wagner Park. Second seating is at 3:30 to 5 5:30 p.m. Adult tickets are $60 with a choice of four things to eat. Children are $15 with choice of two excludes the lobster. Uh if you have any questions, you could give a call at 732-446-4249 extension 1401. Okay. At this point, I'd like to any comments from the day. Just want to uh wish all the residents of Milstone a happy and safe Passover and Easter. Hope everybody has a great holiday.

Thank you. This like to open up to the public at 8:15. Okay. At this point, anybody from the the audience can come up and speak. Please state your name and your address. Hold on one second. Let me on. Was that on? Yeah. Yeah, I turned it on. Is that on? Speak. Speak. I could speak to you. No, I know. But it has to get No, it picks up through here. So, okay. Uh,

your name and your address, please. Doug Nielsen, 270 Stage Coach Road, Milstone. I lived here 30 years. I've had a farm here with horses for my wife, my daughter, my granddaughters. Um, never thought I'd see this here come in my mail, but everybody got it on my street. Uh, courtesy thing about storage box containers. We have two. We bring in, we grow our own hay for our horses. Um, get a notice that they have to be gone in two weeks. I don't understand. And then I started checking in on it and besides the trailers, now there's another one. It says no commercial trucks, vehicles, or trailers in the residential trailers. That's half the town here. that work out of their homes. If if you start going around the half the town and start saying, "Hey, your truck's here. The electrician, this guy here, might be your friend, but you're going to have to do it." Might be a plumber, might be a tree service guy, might be anybody. Then the next one is you're only allowed one trailer and one boat. If you, God forbid, if you got a boat and a jet ski trailer, you have to get rid of one. You're only allowed one. Now, my whole life, I never was into politics. I let everybody do what the thing. Don't bother me. I don't care what everybody does. I don't care what my neighbor does. But to be here 30 years and have trailers there 20 years and then just because maybe somebody is mad at a neighbor because they have a trailer there and they're like, "Hey, we got to make a law so we can just say,

"Okay, see it's on the books. I'm going to go after you. But I I really don't understand how somebody can live here 30 years and have trailers there for 20 and was brought, you know, my kids were brought up in this town, they went to school in this town that now they're married off and have their own kids. And to sit there and get a letter, I'm like, there's a lot of people here about this letter. And I feel sorry for my neighbor. He just moved in in December. He's got a small lawn service cuz he drove around and saw all the lawn services around in the area and said, "Hey, this this is a working community. They don't mind that." And he buys the house next door and puts his trucks there. And then he gets a letter saying you can't have your commercial trucks there. He's got three. They said, "Well, you can have one. You couldn't see those trucks in the back of his yard. He's got five acres like I got five acres. Unless you're flying over a drone looking down at him, that's only way you're going to see those trucks back there. My neighbor on the left never said anything. Neighbor on the right never said anything. Chad Hala I back up to. I know he ain't never going to say nothing cuz I know him. So where does it come down to? who made this or who voted for this to put this into to law in this town cuz as far as I know when I moved here 30 years ago it was a farming community. It was hardworking people living here. Now I feel like I was just talking outside. I feel like we're being a HOA. What's next? Hey, you can only have two cars and they only can be this, you know, this size or you can't paint your house

this size or this color because my neighbor's going to complain if I paint it orange, which you know's going to paint their house orange in this area, but just saying,

you know, and it's it's just like I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm dumbfounded, you know. I lived I worked hard to move here 30 years ago so my kids can go to school. I worked hard still. We're still doing farming. We still bring the hay back for the horses. And to get a letter like this, I'm just dumbfounded. I I was saying this is the place I want to live until I die and that's it. Now I'm thinking myself, oh my god, is this going into like a Homedale, a rumson, a Colts snack? I was brought up in Colts. My dad was in Colts. That changed like crazy, too. From the time he bought it to the time I got out of there, small little houses, farmers sold out, big mansions went in, and it totally changed. So, I'm just here. I I mean I know it's a courtesy thing notice, but I feel that everybody's got a a reason to live here. And the reason is a lot of them are because they were working hard. They wanted to bring their kids up in a nice community where you can send them to nice schools and run a business out of your house. You don't park your trucks there unless you got a a like a concrete company running out of your backyard. I can say like that's a little bit odd. Maybe we should have that. But if somebody buys a house and he has three pickups and three trailers for the lawnmowers and probably cuts maybe half of the people in this town to say, "Hey, you know what? You're good enough to cut my lawn. Yeah, you're not good enough to live there. You're not

good enough to have your equipment sitting in your backyard so you can go out there and work on it and get it ready for tomorrow. I want you to buy a rent a piece of property now after he just bought the house in December. So, I mean, this here I know it's a courtesy notice, but I feel like it's definitely going in a way that it shouldn't. So, that's all I got to say. Sure. And it's been down the street. A lot of people got it. Well, I was going to ask you that, Doug. said other people got it. Similar similar notice right here. Yep. Raise your hands cuz a lot of people got

Was it the exact same notice? Did everyone have different issues or was the notice? Mom's the neighbor. Oh, he's the neighbor that just moved in. Gotcha. So, everybody got the same thing just down our street and it was like there's some neighbors that have a trailer and never got one. Right. Which I'm never saying who it was because I don't want them to get a trailer. But I noticed but I mean it's Yes. Well, I would say this is I don't think the int and this isn't a new or there was nothing passed in past years that changed any or 24. Wait, you're the only one who can speak. We'll coin up and I would say two years is not

Can you go back to to please? Not not my point was what I was trying to make was this there was a narrative that this was something that just changed, right? Right. No, no, no. I agree. I I'm not saying I'm not saying you said it or not, but where I was going with this, I think that the common sense is nobody up here is going to say you can't have a commercial vehicle in your property, right? That's not reasonable. I I'm surprised I'm seeing your notice too, Doug. So, I'm just saying if you did, you would lose half the people on I would be just as I rate as you are right now. There's no disputing that what whatsoever. Exactly. Right. So, you know, I need the opportunity to look at what you got. Have you talked to Nick? Did you call Nick? I went to We went We soon as we got it, we went down to Nick, but he's doesn't work on Mondays.

Okay. So, we all left our names. We left our numbers to give us a call back. No call back. So, that's where it ended. So, I figure if nobody's calling back here, that's why I'm asking, you know, it's time to go to a meeting, which I never came to a meeting for 30 years. You're right to come here, right? Again, I would say I don't know if anybody up here's spoken to Nick or even seen that, right? So, I can't address anything other than hearing what you're saying. They all they all got their letters, so they can all come up and show the letters that they got. I mean, if Nick sent them, we can certainly get copies of them, but obviously everyone is more than welcome to come up and share their concerns, but

you know, from from our perspective, I got to obviously talk to Nick and see why. Shouldn't be grandfather a year and a half. Excuse me. You're going to speak just come out. She's my wife. Adjust my records. I know who's um name. I said, "Shouldn't it be grandfathered?" Kathy Neielson 270 stage. You come over if you want. I can't read. There you go. There you go. Um shouldn't it be grandfathered in if we've had those trailers there for 20ome years and then all a sudden you guys decide a year and a half ago that now we don't want to see containers that we have to get them off the property? So So I I just want to say something.

Yeah. Did you bring it closer to you camera? So the ordinance was changed to be more specific.

So the old ordinance which was way before our time I actually couldn't find when it was you know instituted in the code book but I could actually read it to you. It says in residential zones and as to each lot upon which there exists a residential use. Outdoor storage shall be restricted to boats, operative vehicles and other equipment associated with the residential use and occupants of the residential use. No required front yard area shall be used for the open storage of boats, vehicles or other equipment except for the incidental parking of operative motor vehicles on driveways. So this is how we changed it. In residential zones and as to each lot upon which there exists a residential use, outdoor storage shall be restricted to trailers, campers, camping vehicles, recreation vehicles, watercraft, operative vehicles, and other equipment associated with the residential use and occupants of the residential use. No required front yard area shall be used for the open storage of trailers, campers, camping vehicles, recreational vehicles, watercraft vehicles, or other equipment except for incidental parking of operative motor vehicles on driveways. So before the way that it was written, you were restricted to a boat and an operative vehicle or other equipment associated with residential use.

Okay. Mine's on 5 acres all the way in the back. You could you know what you're saying. So before it was very broad like I mean basically nothing down and say you can't have it. No no no basically it says anything you couldn't have other than what I just read to you. So boats and operative vehicles was all that was in the other ordinance the first ordinance as permitted. How far has pukes? I mean, so this ordinance I actually could not find the I I don't know if Kathleen or Brian knows, but it's been on the e-code for like

Well, being a farming community, I think sea sea trailers are should be permitted. That's where you put your hay, you put your feed, you store your stuff. I I I understand everybody wants to change things when they get in and all, but listen, it should

it's it's to the point where you can't just step on everybody that lived here for 30 years and and 20 years the container's been there and just turn around and go, listen, you know what? I understand you got hanging in there for the horses that you got and that's where you store it from the other farm. You bring it in there. That's where the horses are. I'm not going to leave it at the other farm because we grow it there. We bring it here. But I mean to sit there and send a letter out to not not just me. I mean I'm up in arms because I've been here, but everybody here has gotten a letter for a sea container

recently. I mean, and it was all sent out the same day because they all got and I went I went around to the neighbors and I said, "Did you have a problem with me with a container here?"

No, no, no. I mean, what made everybody just say, "You know what? Today we're going to send out massive amount of letters to everybody and say, guess what? You got two weeks to get rid of your sea c containers." I That's what I would like to know. What happened that all of a sudden Friday of last week somebody said print all these letters out send them out and we got two weeks to get rid of the sea containers that have been there for 20 years. I don't know. This is the first time I ever came down. Sorry if I'm getting a little answer for you. I'm getting a little upset about it. Like the same answer from Nick. So,

you know, so don't get upset. There's no reason to say that's the first thing. Remember your heart. Like I said, I Nick Nick will be in tomorrow. We will we will speak to Nick tomorrow about how this all transpired and why the letters went out. He has a list of everybody that he sent the notices to. Let us peel back the onion, understand what's going on, and I will have him contact all of you. And if we need to do it on a a level like this and bring everybody back, we'll do that as well. Well, we should. Okay. just so we can all get on the same page and wonder what happened, you know, where did it go? But I want you to understand though that we did not do this negatively like the way that it was written before pretty much everything was excluded. And how could you do that?

Yeah, but if it's I could understand if I had it sitting in my front yard right by the road where I can drive I literally I could take you right now and we'll drive down the roads and I'll show you storage boxes right out the road. Right. Right. didn't get one. To to to your to your point, everybody's situation is unique. So, you may have all your stuff in the back. Again, we don't know what Nick sent down to you and why he why he sent it to you. So, let let us understand what's going on. Sure. Let me let us talk to him and and have him give us a call and if we have to all come back and we sit here, I'm good with that. No problem. And and we we will do what we have to do to understand the situation.

Yep. and and come up with something that's amiable to everybody involved. Sounds good to me. Thank you. Please state your name and your address.

Greg Massa, 264, stage coach. Doug introduced me. Uh, I didn't even move in yet. I'm painting walls and I took out carpet and I'm putting some floor in. And I got that letter. I didn't bring it with me tonight, but that letter told me I had till Monday morning at 8:30 to remove my three lawn cutting trucks and three lawn cutting trailers and I have a seox. Uh I got the letter after it said I had to move my stuff. I had 5 days notice and when I used to live in Milstone, had a business 15 years ago, got married, left Millstone, got divorced, came back. So, welcome back. Now, when I was looking for a place to live, I knew where I wanted to raise my girls. I have two daughters. Uh stay-at-home dad, too. Drove up and down Stage Coach Road. There's a lot of houses of people that are running businesses. I I got a little confused from what uh I think Tara said. You said in the backyard cuz when when you drive by my house, you could barely see the house. you cannot see my trailers or my truck that I drive back and forth to work with. Uh so it's it's a little confusing and like I said, I didn't even move in yet.

Again, to to your point and Doug's point, we don't know why you got the letter. Okay. And if if the audience says not visible from the street and yours is not visible from the street, then we need to speak to Nick and ask him why you got that letter. Okay. Okay. So So I just want to be clear. Is that what the ordinance says if it's not visible from the street? No, it does not say. There's a separate ordinance. Yeah, there's two separate ordinance that says if you have a trailer, it shouldn't be visible from the street. So, a trailer shouldn't be visible from the street. And the same with a C container. It shouldn't be visible from the street. Well, C container is not listed in here. Your trailer a trailer is right. The trailer containers, but not not a C. Correct. Yeah. Not a C container.

Trailers, campers, camping vehicles, recreational vehicles, water. I was just confused cuz as Doug went, I asked a few people. Some people got them, some people didn't. It's kind of like things were cherrypicked along the street. Don't understand why. Been here for 4 and 1/2 minutes and I'm back. So, I just like to know what's going on in town. We We'll find out. And again, I'll I'll I'll speak to Nick. We We'll speak to Nick. He's got the list of everybody he sent these notices to. We'll find out each case. We we'll bring you back in 101 or we'll bring you back in as a group and we'll figure out. Yeah, I did the same as I actually pulled out and Doug pulled in and left my name with Danielle and my phone number and address and so you didn't get a call back from Nick either? No. Okay. No, he's not back until tomorrow.

Okay. Last week he wasn't out. Uh no, he was there last week as far as when you went this week. Last week? Last Monday. He's not in on Monday. No, he's not in on Monday. And then I said, "Okay, here's my name, my number, my address." Four days ago. I'm talking last week. Tended? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's when we got the letter. I got the letter. I went in right away. As soon as I got it, she said, "Nick doesn't come in till 10:00. He's in in the morning. He's gone in the afternoon." Okay. I said, "Okay." So, here I am. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank you. Sure. State your name and your address, please. Sure. Name is Sue Nam 147. I'm sorry. Spell your last name.

Man Gold. M A N G O L D. 147 Stage Coach Road. I'm here for moral support. I didn't get a letter, but um I do understand you call them C containers or C something. Uh the shipping containers, I guess you call them. Um if you can ask Nick what is the purpose of the ordinance to begin with? I would be curious to what that is. Is it because it's an eyesore or is it because it's unsafe? because of, you know, I I can understand it could be either way. So, if Nick comes out and says it's an eyesore, then moving it into the backyard out of sight, paint it, put a bush, shrub fence around it, something to make it more appealing from the herb. That should address that issue. Now, if it's unsafe, okay, because I know it's a shipping container, they they're little airtight, they can scare me, too. Now, if that's the case, what if you modify your sea container or whatever you call it, your shipping container and put a door in it with a deadbolt? Does that shipping container all of a sudden become a metal shed? Would that be acceptable?

Okay. So, I'm looking looking for a compromise here. Instead, I've given you two weeks of notice to get your shipping containers off your property and and you know, I mean, somebody could be on vacation for a week, not this time of the year. I I So again, if we can just find out, I'm just going to ask, can I see the notice, too? I mean, on the surface, just, you know, my own opinion that that's nowhere near enough time to even address the issue. I mean, it doesn't really make sense on the letter. Yeah. I mean, it's not like you just pick a seat container and move it, right? Like is the date that you add. I'm sure it takes time to get rid of them. Where you going to put them? I mean really people or or why do they even need I think there's a lot of investigation.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like it says courtesy notice, but then it gives you a date of April 6th to get rid of Well, that's before they tow it away. Yeah. Before they come in with the truck and say, "Okay, we got a tow truck here. We're going to lift it up, put it on a bed, and we'll get rid of it." I'm just going to take a picture. Okay. Sure. No, you've had your chance. Taking a picture of just taking a picture of it. I'm just kidding. He's He's my cousin-law. Isn't it's good you came out for Thank you. Like I said, got to support families, right? That's it.

So, anyway, like I said, if we can find out the purpose of the ordinance, if there's a problem having these trailers and containers in the backyard, can we change a container to be a metal shed by putting a door in it if it's a safety issue? Can we paint it, make it look prettier? Can we keep it in the backyard behind the barns? You know, keep it up off the curb. You know, let's We're a small community. I really think we can work together and get this figured out because again, I've been here 40 years. I really hate to think that we're being overwhelmed by maybe the building code instructor, guy, whoever it is from another town coming in and not understanding our little community. Now, I don't know who Nick is. never met him, but it would be helpful if we can all get on the same page and work together and make something something agreeable.

All right. So, thank you. Thank you.

How you doing? Dan Murphy, 38 carriageway. I wasn't actually going to talk on this topic, but I found it very interesting as it related to me as I have permits and we've been going through this issue with the township for six years now and I have permits for what I do and I know a few of you weren't around when this issue came up And it's shocking to me that nobody who's new here actually came to me and off to talk to me about my side of the story. And it must be frustrating to you guys that you get blindsided by a whole bunch of people coming in here about an issue and these guys say, "I don't know anything about it. You just heard about it." And the real issue is I think you're losing disconnect that the township employees and professionals are accountable to you. You're not accountable to them. And they run around this town doing whatever they want and they just run rampant. And then all of a sudden people come in here and you guys are blindsided by it. And there needs to be a lot more proactive on running this town because the people that are running this town are running it into the ground. And I wasn't going to talk about this and we have our own issues and I'll leave it at that. But there needs to be a lot more proactiveness on what the township employees are doing. As I bring that up, I'll start with the towers. I was here last month on the towers and it seemed to me you guys really weren't aware of the towers, what was going on. And there

was another meeting last week and there was a big turnout and I wanted to know what the committee's position is on the towers, this infrastructure project.

So I've I've been driving around many parts of New Jersey. I I was in Edison, I lin Hamilton and I've seen the new towers. I'm not a fan of it. Okay. And the the research that I've done and the information that I was given uh when this infrastructure upgrade is going to happen, there's no redundancy. There's no additional capacity that these lines are going to pull. Uh I believe it's going to be 50 to 60 feet higher than the existing. I know what the project is. I know what the project is. I was at these meetings.

If you at the last meeting, it was unbelievable how bad and arrogant JCPNL was. But my question to you guys is what is the committee doing about this? So why weren't you at the meetings? Let me explain. The board of adjustments is a quasi judicial board.

Yep. We have no say so over what they do, how they preside over any application. And by statute, we cannot tell them or sway them in any way, shape or form to do anything. Every application is based on its own merits. They have their own chairman. They have their own attorney. And the board looks at every application in its unique fashion on what they're applying for. They review the merits of the case. So the merit of the applications and then they make a judgment and a decision collectively with council and they come up with a decision good, bad or indifferent. We have again we have no say so over the board of adjustments. I get that. I get the heavy lift that there's going to be okay and the zoning board can deny it and they're going to the BPU, right? But as the committee, they're going town by town by town single-handedly. The committee should be meeting with these other towns. So, it's not just Milstone that denied them because they get an approval for one tower in this town. They opened up the meeting. We got an approval here, got approval here, and we got approval here. We looked into it. Get approval for one tower. Got approval for two towers. They're coming through here with 44 towers. But as the committee, you guys got to be meeting with all these boards that they're going before. Get to the township committees, start meeting with them. So when they go before the BPU, it's not just Milstone. It's not just us. You guys got to be ahead of this because putting 44 towers between here, between this building and Charleston Spring Road,

6 miles between this building and Charleston Spring Road. There's going to be 2298 foot towers. 22 2200 or 22. There's seven every mile. There's six miles in Milstone. It's going to be look like King Dar. You're looking at King Dar right through Milstone. 44 of them. I don't like it any more than you do. But what what are we doing? What are we doing? We got to get ahead of this. I I I've met with Manalapin. I've met with East Windsor today actually and we have been talking and that's as much as I could say. Okay. My next stop is Freehold. So I I am doing what I need to do to speak to these other towns.

Why is it secretive? Why not get why not get the residents the hundred residents that came to the last meeting involved because and create an organization?

You can do that. Okay. Our position is we have to come from a position of a good neighbor and we have to work with everybody in an amicable way. So if if one town doesn't care and I'm not talking about any town what the position is. It's just my opinion. If if they don't care that the towers go in, I could ask them to be a good neighbor and wherever they decide to go, it falls. Again, I have no control over that. I could speak to them. I could tell them what our issues are, how how envir environmentally concerned we are. I've even asked uh JCPNL 7 years ago, when you do infrastructure upgrades, put it on the ground. You're spending all these hundreds of millions of dollars. Dig a 20 foot trench, put in a six foot conduit, pull put

that conversation that night. We had the conversation that night. I said that eight years ago. Okay. So, it is what it is. You know, we can only suggest I just hope the committee's doing that meeting, getting ahead of it. You know, last time I was here, you guys seem to be new at it. I know somebody was m giving misinformation that it was about redundancy and reliability, which it clearly isn't. No, there's nothing about it. So,

I'll leave that at that. On another topic, parks. This is a bate park this morning. This morning two weeks this has been there right at the entrance. Two weeks. You had two DPW trucks there this morning. I waited to see maybe they do a spring cleaner. This is the front of Aate Park Springs. Yeah. Yes. Mhm.

This is dead trees all over the park. All over the park. It's disgusting. And as one person in the town on one of the boards said it should be condemned their trees. I mean this is just a little bit of cracks. You know how many years I've been hearing about the cracks? We're getting estimates. I wish the township administrator was here because he told me two years ago they were getting estimates. He posted on Facebook last year they were getting estimates where we at. This is the walking paths. This is not one, two, three. This is all along. This is your park table with nails coming right out where that chair should be. That's a table right by the playground with matching. Someone didn't just put there. It matches to the benches and it park that. I mean, we got to we got to clean it up at some point. It's it's crazy. And I didn't want to take a picture of bathrooms cuz the bathrooms are disgusting. The bathrooms are horri. But for three years, I've been asking about this. And you have Kevin post on Facebook, the parks are a secondary luxury and if we get to it, we get to it. If we don't, no big deal. He literally posted that on Facebook. The parks are a taxpayer asset and they got to be Dozens of people are in that park every day. Dozens. And And it's it's silly. It's silly at this point that year after year after year

this goes on. I had two heart attacks. I walk in that park every day and it it just gets frustrating. And I have a long history of asking about the park. I've been down to DPW. I've asked them to clean it up. You get branches so low hitting your head. It's the bare minimum. It's the bare minimum. Thank you, D. I'll take care of that. And you forgot to mention the business of the month was Charleston Springs. I sent it to you guys. Simply put it up. When did you send it? I sent you an email at the beginning of the month. Sent everybody an email. Charles Springs Farm. Okay. It's all good.

Anybody else? Name and address, please. Brian Demo, 110 stage coach. Uh Mohammed County, resident 40 years. Milstone resident, 15 years. Um I have the letter. I don't do you want to make a copy of it also? No. What is it?

So, I actually got a letter for chicken coupe that I've had for 12 years, a goat house that I've had for 12 years, and this shipping container. Now, 14 years ago, I applied to build garages cuz I have no garages. I was denied because I guess my property isn't big enough or for whatever reason. So, I I got a shipping container. I have no storage. I got this letter also. I pulled everything out, put it under my deck, and everything's getting ruined. My kids quads, my dirt bikes, lawnmowers, sentimental stuff that we have, you know, that I can't store anywhere. So, that's that. But, I also have another topic. So, I have about $12,000 in violations. Um, the reason I'm bringing this up, I wasn't, but because they're saying we should think about who our people are who work for the committee, um, like Nick and Danielle in the office, and I don't think Dan's there anymore and all them. So, for the last 15 years, I was fighting water problems in my basement. Had all these companies come out. Cost me a lot of money cuz mold. My kids were getting sick from mold. The only way to fix it was move move the dirt and build a retaining wall. I went to the town years ago and I said, "I'm here to get a permit. I need to build um a retaining wall." The secretary at the time said, "You don't need a permit for that." I was actually doing roofing and siding at the time. I didn't need permits for that also. So, I said, "Okay, no problem." I build this retaining wall and now it becomes a huge problem. I have no more water in my basement, which is awesome. My kids are good. But now this wall is a problem and they're all upset with me. So I did the right thing. I hired engineers. I paid tons of money. They came out. So I I have wetlands that aren't being

breached. I'm 90 ft. This wall is 90 ft. The buffer is 50. I'm 90 ft. I had my engineers go to them and tell them, "Hey, listen. Here's the papers. Here's everything. He's he's good. I applied for the permits. Everything was on hold because Nick was insisting I need the D out there, which I've had the DP out there many years ago for whatever reason. My kids were riding dirt bikes. They called the DP on me. The DP came in. They said, I don't even know why I'm here. And my shipping container, goat house, and chicken coop were also there. And he's like, I don't care. These are here. So the DP had no problem. They thought I was moving dirt or something cuz to this day, my yard still looks like that cuz my kids ride, you know. We we do. We live in a nice town where people enjoy, you know, having their kids have fun out there. So, that being said, they held up me applying for a permit for my deck. Now, my my deck collapsed. I had to build a new deck. I went to them to apply for the permit and I told them, I said, "I have one exit right now. If my house catches on fire, my front door, my house drops 10, 12 feet. I need to put this deck up. Well, not my problem. You got to figure out your wall first and get the DP out here. I said, "Okay." I had engineers come out for my deck and everything. And I had other professionals come out and they said, "You need to build this." And I said, "They won't let me." They said, "You, your family's your main concern. Build the deck." I had engineers help me do everything. I built the deck. I had to. I mean, as a man, I think that's the right thing to do, right? Even if I had my son's friends come over and they opened that side door, they would drop 12, 13 feet. It's on me now. So, that being said, I keep getting violations after violations after violations. I think I'm up to like 12 13,000 now. I don't know what to do. I mean, I I I

keep trying to do the right thing and apparently it's not the right thing, you know? So, I don't know. Maybe you could help me or assist or talk to them or or something. I I don't know where to go. I I try to do the right thing. I spent $15,000 with the engineers for everything, for the decks, everything. Even the engineer that came out, he's like, "You I overkilled it." He even said, he's like, "You could land a helicopter on this deck, you know." And I'm going to be honest, I can't afford these violations. I have a I pay a lot of money. My wife's very sick. Very sick. And we have to pay out of pocket. And I just can't with the stress with her. Like, she doesn't even know my wife. She can't handle it, you know? So maybe you could help us out or something, but I don't know what they're doing down there, right? You know,

unrelated to to the other issues, but we'll talk to Nick about what your issues. What was your address again? 110 stage coach. Yeah. So that could be is that building is that from Nick or that might be their So Nick said it I went there today um after picking up my kids from school, which I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with nobody. Like like this gentleman said, I don't care what anybody does, you know. No, but what what Kathleen is asking the violations are coming from zoning or from construction.

So it's from it's from construction, but Nick in zoning was holding it up because he's saying you need the D out of your and my engineer Anthony Maltise um who does a lot in this town engineering. He said they had all their surveyors out there. They marked everything. They're like, "We don't need the D." And then they'd be like, "Well, now you need to apply for a $1,500 permit for wetlands and this and that." They just keep adding to it. I don't know what to do. Is there Is there a violation on the on the top? Okay. And I didn't My mailbox got knocked out like I'm sure a lot of people on stage. Coach, I didn't even get the first violation. So, he already hit me with the penalties.

That's from the construction official. Yeah. the same. It says he gave it to me in April and then I just got hit I mean I'm sorry January but I just got hit April 1st with the all the violations. Like I'm trying to work with them. I just don't know what to do. So they were saying that you need a wetland delineation from the D. Yeah, letter of interpretation,

which my um engineer said it could take up to six months to get them out here and my deck completely collapsed. Like when I bought the house, it shouldn't have even been past when I bought it. So, what happened is somebody actually fell through my deck and I went and I was going to fix it, but then I was like, you know what, this is pretty bad. I pushed on it and the whole deck went and unfortunately my front doors are only exit with no deck. You know it is it's a big safety hazard. Did you submit the plans to construction? Can I? No. Did you? It says that you needed to submit construct uh for which one?

For your deck. They wouldn't even give me the permit for it. That's what I'm trying to say. I I applied for the permit and they wouldn't even let me right but he he's saying here right that you need to submit it for a construction permit application with two sets of plans for the deck and two sets of plans for the retaining which I have everything right have you submitted them did you go to construction and say here they are I went to him he personally walked over to Nick and Nick said due to the open permit on this retaining wall we can't open a permit for him on this I have the papers from when I actually were going to get the second um permit cuz the the secretary gave them to me in the front. I believe it was Donna at the time.

Yeah, fell. Very nice lady.

We'll be contacting you. Appreciate it. You got it. And that's it. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Come on. Anybody else? Not enough. Bring it on. I just have a question. We're all here to work together, so that's what we got to do. I just have a question. Your name and address, please. Patricia Jones, 481 Stage Coach Road. Um, the Stage Coach Road, doesn't it have a couple of different zoning? Cuz I'm neighborhood commercial and I didn't know what the differences were. Like I don't know. You live on State. Do you know your zoning? It's a residential. Oh, it's residential. You don't know. So, who

I know? I know a lot of things. I don't know everybody's zoning. I'm sorry. But what does neighborhood commercial do you know zoning? No, not off the top of my head. I could though. It's in the code. All right. I'll I'll do that. I just put my There there is From what I understand, and please don't quote me on this. Yeah. A residential commercial has different permitted uses that you could do on that property that you cannot do on a residential zone. That's as far as my intellect with that. neighborhood commercial or I don't know I don't know again depending on what the zoning is you're allowed to do certain things that you can't do on residential so we could find out and get back to All right I will thank you

or just go to the township website because it is in the code book yeah there's a search on the website if you put in residential you know commercial neighborhood neighborhood commercial township code yeah search and then you can search it'll give you exactly what you're looking before. Okay. Okay. Thanks. Next. Come on. Can Can I say one last thing? Sure. About this gentleman with those pictures.

So, we live right there. My kids go there every day. It's funny you actually say that. My uh 10-year-old trip on the court and his whole arm is cut up um from that. I'm not one to complain about anything, but I figured I'd just let you know. So, I agree with this gentleman that I do not know, but I I agree with you. Like, I agree with you. My my daughter walking.

You have to gonna have to come up to the mic so we can get it recorded. Please dear. My daughter walking her stroller and that's part of the thing that's got me a little irate with the park and one of those big cracks walking her stroller wheel turned and the stroller fell out fell over and thank God she was okay. But that was last year. That was last summer when I brought it up again and brought it up again and he posted saying we're getting estimates we're going to fix it blah blah blah and that was after the year before he did the same thing. So that's part of what's got on the part.

It's in bad shape. There's no there's no but some but at some point we you know what basically let's clean and brush up the dead trees. Well that that's a given. the easy stuff after also also right now they're on pothole duty all over town. So I'm not making excuses. There's just certain certain amount of time in a day. So I we get calls all the time. There's two potholes in front of my house. They just they just filled potholes on beachwood. They filled potholes on uh on a bunch of roads. We we just had a bunch of roads repaved. So there's definitely ongoing things. attacked is not my specialty. Maybe I'm going to

get a new appreciation for it. Okay. But and I got to stay true to myself. Okay. But you have a DPW guy here. I was having a conversation with him. Mhm.

In the hall and they were changing. I asked them if they did any cleanups in the parks and you typically do cleanups in the park before you start cutting. And they started cutting today. They did no cleanups in the park. I said, "What are you guys doing?" We were changing filters in the building and maintenance and the thing. You got nine employees. You got 10 employees. You got an $800,000 DPW budget. It can be managed a whole lot better. A whole lot better. Last time when I walked out and I brought up the in the winter time clearing the snow. Remember that conversation?

And somebody who was here giving stats said and I walked out. I said I felt I said to him, I said, "I feel bad. I gave you more work." And she says, "Oh, we're looking for work to do this time of year." All right. Said, "Don't feel bad. We're looking for work." And he took him two hours with a snowblower, cleared all the walkways and about 30 minutes with the plow and opened up the park. And it's it's really about the management of it. It really is. It can be done. I get the budget issues. I get all that stuff, but it can be done. And it's not a lot of money. It's just got to be management. We're not talking about the money. We're talking about the mayor pal. We're down nine DPW guys.

We're down three people. you get nine DPWs and $800,000 budget. You know, now they're spending all this time cutting the parks. There's a whole lot better way to do that issue, too. But we It can be done. It can be done. Well, there's a Well, there's a way. You're right. Thank you. Okay. So, I'll just answer the lady that was up here since I looked it up. Who is the lady that wanted to know the zones on stage coach? Patricia. So, so stage coach literally is has four zones that cut across it. So there's RUP, which is the preservation zone, the R170, your neighborhood commercial that you said, and R130 is across it. It's like it's literally choppy. So your neighbor could actually be in a completely different zone.

And if you want to um if you actually go on the website, you can actually look what your zone is and it'll tell you what I can do, what I can't do. Correct. It'll tell you the permitted uses for each zone. So what was your zone? Just out of curiosity. mine with neighborhood commercial. So neighborhood commercial is detached residential dwelling subject to the area yard and building requirements of the R80 zone and then retail trade establishments and then there's a list of things that you could do there. Thank you. Sure. Anybody? Okay, last question. Sure. Come on up.

Which I'm sure everybody wants to know. So, for the time being, for everybody who has shipping containers or sea containers or whatever you call them until you figure out what's going on, I'm assuming we're okay to hold off. Absolutely. First of all, two weeks is not enough time. So, I I read Doug's I think you got the notice on March 18th. Last Monday. No. Yeah, but on the date it said date of issuance was March 18th with a mine snowstorm. I got mine out of the snowstorm. Yeah, it was two weeks from the date of issuance to the time that you had to comply. April 6 was the time that you had to Yeah. 8 o'clock on April 6, which is Monday. Okay. So, hold off. Don't do anything. Appreciate it.

Let let us talk to Nick. Let us find out what's going on. Again, he will contact you either individually and and find out what your particular situation is because everybody might be individual because now we just found out there are four zones on Stage Court Road. Yeah. It's really choppy if you look at the map. you know what what could what could be no good for you could be good for Miss Jones. Okay. And it could not not be good for for Doug. So we don't know what's going on. So let us talk to Nick. Let us find out again. Don't do anything. Yeah. He will contact you and if we got to bring all of you back in for a meeting like this. We'll bring you back in and we'll hash everything out. Appreciate it. Okay. Thank you. So, Kathleen, can you notify uh Nick tomorrow

of that to hold off for the the the April 6th deadline? And then I'll I'll reach out to Nick tomorrow and speak to him about that. Okay. Y we put on record for you guys. Anybody else? Okay, you guys should come more open. All right, with that said, if there's nobody else, I'd like to close out the public portion at 9:04.

And before we adjourn the meeting, uh I opened up before when when I made announcements for Memorial Day, please, if you are in town, come and support our uh veterans who are going to be doing the ceremony and the parades. Bring your kids, your neighbors, and everything else. So just let's so show support for our fall foreign heroes and also with with the people that are overseas now doing what they got to do to protect us. It's just a small tribute that we could give them back. So please show up and and support them. With that said, I'd like a motion to adjurnn. I'll make a motion. Thank you. Second. I'll second. Thank you. All in favor? I time out. 904.

Thank you. I want to thank everybody for coming. plays. Close.