City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, May 19, 2026
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About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Midvale, UT
Meeting Date
May 19, 2026

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329 sections

0:04 – 0:383

I sat down. I said, huh? That's the story. So that's the story that I have. Okay.

1:08 – 1:220

So I'm very happy to see you. Likewise.

1:376

How have you been? Anything new to report?

1:4012

I went to Italy.

1:426

That was bad.

1:4312

You did? Where'd you go? I went to Venice, Rome.

1:485

Lucky, lucky, lucky. How long were you there for?

1:536

I was there for two weeks. Yeah, you did good. When were you there?

2:136

Are you still sad? Yeah, I'm still sad, too.

2:195

She was just there.

2:216

No, I wasn't in Italy. Oh, Germany. Italy's next time.

2:265

Germany? No. Europe. I know it's Europe. Britain, Spain. I'm going to pass a resolution on that one. No contact. No contact.

2:359

No contact.

2:392

is you can, but you're not allowed to first round pick.

2:440

Ouch. I think he just gets whatever's left. He's not a... Yeah. That'd be good. You have played with the worst team.

3:076

Oh, my mic's weird.

3:095

It's like broken.

3:116

Thank you, Paul. How have you been?

3:135

Why isn't this working? I guess it works if I plug it in. It still hurts.

3:176

Yeah, I feel like every time I see you, though, you're moving better.

3:195

A little better.

3:216

Like, your color looks really good today. Your spry, you're almost running up over here.

3:267

Yeah, it's not quite there yet. But I'm doing better than I was.

3:316

I'm so glad to hear that.

3:337

I saw some of your posts.

3:38 – 3:536

It was so much fun. I want to go back. My kids decided every morning they would find either the local bakery or the lingerie and go down and get a baguette and just eat breakfast.

3:532

They'd go into one of them and have fresh orange juice that they just scored.

4:017

Chocolate. Oh my gosh, those chocolate. Yeah, I got the little bakery by the house.

4:086

I got Bill by the house. Mustachio.

4:192

Thank you.

4:196

Thanks, Brad. Thank you.

4:47 – 5:117

case comparison there was a gelato gelato They carve it like a rose. So you have an ice cream cone that looks like a rose. It's like art. It's weird. Everything they do there is art. That's why I have diabetes.

5:116

That's why I'm probably going to get diabetes if I go back. Between the desserts and the bread and the number.

5:167

We didn't do that.

5:176

No, I don't want to do that.

5:337

I've been a leader several times. A while back, we went into a store, and they wouldn't even sell anything to us. But that's been 10 years ago.

5:436

That makes me feel better.

5:45 – 5:577

But no, me and my wife, we were looking at the maps and stuff. People would stop and say, could we help you? I was so impressed. That's why I projected him doing something so amazing.

6:02 – 6:3812

Welcome, everyone. I understand you were waiting for me this time, so sorry for being a few minutes late, but we had a very robust conversation with our workshop tonight where we discussed the Unified Police Department budget. More to come on that as we wade through our budget season, just like every other city and every other taxing entity. We appreciate the discussion that was had there. Welcome to our Midvale City Council meeting, May 19th, 2026. We have a full agenda tonight, so let's start as we normally do with the Pledge of Allegiance.

6:453

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

7:0212

Thank you, everyone. Rory, will you see who is here and who may not be here?

7:065

Yes. Councilmember Robinson? Here. Nicolash? Here. Brown?

7:115

Bill Inks? Here. And Glover?

7:12 – 7:3812

Here. Okay. That is all of us. I do want to just welcome the Unified Fire in the back here. We appreciate your service, and we know that any minute you could be out of here. So I just wanted to say hi and thank you. Moving on, speaking of the Unified Fire Authority, a man that I first saw at 7.30 a.m. today. Good to see you 12 hours later, Chief K. with our Unified Fire Authority report.

7:41 – 10:051

I'd also like to thank the crew. This is from 125, so just up here around the corner. A shift today, so thanks for coming out. Appreciate it. Brief report from me this month. I just wanted to highlight a couple of things that's going on in UFA. We recently had a recruit graduation where we were able to graduate seven new recruits, three of those being highly needed paramedics, so we were excited about that. But one of our smaller classes in recent years, finally catching up to our hiring shortage somewhat. But we're going to have another big class in the fall. So I say that, and then we'll hire a large class again. Our safety message for the month and probably for the rest of the summer is fire season is here and the time to prepare is now. You guys are a fairly urban community, but you're still at high risk for those urban interface fires. So our message to the citizens and to the community is prepare now. You know, clean up your property now. Get all of the dead and dying dried vegetation cleaned up specifically directly around your homes, up on your roof, out of your gutters, all of those things. And then we just need to be extra careful. with anything that's going to cause a spark. So you guys remember last summer we had that large apartment complex fire in Mill Creek and that was caused by a mower mowing in a dry field. And so it just takes just an instant in these dry conditions. That's kind of our safety message for the month is fire season's here and we need to get prepared. So as far as the call volume for the month of April, 305 total incidents in Midvale. You guys remain the third busiest community in UFA, so strong work. And you're maintaining that good response time of the 90th percentile of six minutes and three seconds. So one of the fastest response times in the UFA as well. So you're getting good service from your crews that work here. So that's all I have for you tonight, unless any questions.

10:06 – 10:2212

Thank you, Chief. Any questions? Appreciate you. Thanks. Okay, moving on to public comments. Any person wishing to comment on any item not otherwise scheduled for a public hearing tonight may do so now. If you want to approach the microphone and just give your name for the record.

10:25 – 10:5810

Hello and thank you for your time. My name is April Thompson and I am a resident of Midvale. Some of you may think I look familiar. That is because on April 7th I made a comment right in this spot asking you to vote in favor of the ordinance to join the Utah Renewable Communities when the time came. I'm going to keep my comment today short and sweet. I still would like it very much if you did that. From boosting our local economy by building new infrastructure, saving taxpayer dollars by lessening our reliance on expensive coal plants, and cleaning our air, this is one constituent who would very much like to see this implemented. Thank you.

10:59 – 11:1412

Thank you, April. We will have a discussion on that item tonight and a final vote on June 2nd. Is there anyone else who would like to give public comment? Please state your name for the record, Sue Armitage.

11:15 – 13:230

I'm Sue Armitage. Tonight, I want to thank UFA and UPD. They came to my condo complex about 10 days ago. We have a resident, a single lady who's very closed off and a recluse and cranky, and nobody liked her. And she died in her condo about five months ago, and nobody knew it. because she won't talk to anybody. And she never comes out. Nobody talks to her. And what hits me is each one of you are friendly. And you know your constituents and you know your neighborhoods. And in my condo community, 87 units, nobody knew her because she didn't want to be known. I was impressed that she didn't want to be known and we actually didn't want to know her because she was always angry. But I appreciate the way you reach out and you say hi and you attempt to converse with people even when they might be rude or closed off or unfriendly or angry at you. Very sad. I do the newsletter for my condo community, and I put the newsletter on the clip by her door every day for the last three months. And honestly, I didn't smell anything. So I don't know what I could have done, but I feel that just nobody knew somebody who didn't want to be known. And I appreciate that you each reach out and say hi and try to connect with people. That's what I tried to do and didn't work for me. Thank you for making the effort you make, and thanks for UFA and UPD.

13:2512

Thank you, Sue. Is there anyone else who'd like to give public comment?

13:317

Glenn, I thought you were standing up for a second. I was like, wow, highly unusual.

13:3612

Okay, seeing none, we will move on to council reports and we'll start as always in District 1, Council Member Bonnie Billings.

13:438

I just wanted to say how excited I am for the start of our Food Truck Tuesdays and the community events that we're going to be having monthly in conjunction with those. I'm really excited about that.

13:5312

Okay, thank you. District 2, Council Member Paul Glover.

13:577

Nothing this evening, ma'am.

13:5812

Okay. District 3, Council Member Heidi Robinson.

14:02 – 14:256

Um, I too just wanted to say that I'm really excited about the food truck, but I also wanted to give a big shout out to all of city staff that make sure that not only do we have these food trucks here, but that we also have these really fun community events that you're not just here eating, you're getting to know your neighbors. And, uh, I just think that provides such a community asset here. So I want to tell everybody on staff how much I appreciate everything they do. That's it, Mayor. Thank you.

14:2512

OK. Thank you. District 4, Councilmember Bryant-Brown.

14:29 – 15:482

Yeah, a couple things. I was going to mention the same thing. And I think our meeting before this, where we heard from UPD, kind of highlights what this means. It's not just food truck season. It's really Main Street season for us, right? We're going to have a lot of events, and they're great. But even from two or three years ago, besides just the events, the road offers so much more. So we should see a lot more foot traffic during these events. I was at a work party this week, and it just blows my mind. Someone came up to me and said, hey, I can't ever remember the name of the ice cream place that's going in right here. But he came up to me. He's like, we're counting down the days, me and my wife. They live in Cottonwood Heights. And so like... there's like this energy here, right? But that means there's more resources, more things that will happen, which I just think is awesome, right? It's not just, oh, here's these 20 people that are going to come to the event. We should see so much more. Bambino on Friday nights. Very busy. Just so busy. It's such an awesome thing. I'm glad that we get to see it grow. I think sometimes we all forget because we're seeing it happen incrementally, but I'm really proud of the city staff for putting that together. I think it's just a lot of great things that'll happen, and we'll just keep an eye on it, and hopefully more will come.

15:4912

That's all I have tonight. Chair Greg Musil. Okay, thank you. District 5, Councilmember Denise McElhosh.

15:56 – 16:504

Same thing, very excited about the activities. I was talking to the mayor this weekend and I call ourselves Midvale Ambassadors because I think everyone, friends, colleagues, everyone, I invite them down and I do a full tour of Main Street and they're just like, wow. And then they text me like weeks later, oh, I went down again. So I think our role in addition to doing what we're doing around development is to be an ambassador for Main Street. With that, Mural Festival is coming up, and we could use volunteers. So a great way to be involved is to volunteer. I had so much fun doing it last year, doing it again. And last thing is, I don't know if you saw that was posted, but the Drinking Water Quality Report for Midvale was posted. We do a lot of these reports, and they're so informative. It's a great way to understand what's going on in the city, vision, direction. So I just wanted to call it out there if you haven't seen it yet, but go take a look at that. So thank you.

16:50 – 19:2212

Okay. Thank you, Councilmember. For my report, real quick, I will echo everyone else. I do want to thank Millie in particular, our new event coordinator. She has done a lot of work for tonight, especially with the dine and dash. Dash and dine. Sorry. We do not want anyone to dine and dash. UPD is sitting in the back here taking a look for that. But she did a lot of work. for that and I know she was very worried and she's not here because she's out there still working the event. Very worried that no one was going to show up and when I went out during the UPD workshop there were tons of people out there. There were about 20 people who showed up for the first heat. Apparently there are two heats of the The run, the first one's a fun run. So very, very successful, and we look forward to building off of that success next year for the same dine and dash and dine. I'll get it right at some point. But yes, so if you see Millie, just please extend your thanks, and to all staff. But in particular, that was her focus, and I know she was working very, very hard over the past few weeks. Something else I wanted to mention, very sad, but we had Al Hoyne, who had worked for Public Works 32 years here in Midvale City, passed away, as most everyone knows here. Very, very great guy. May 7th, City Manager Matt Dahl and I were able to attend his funeral services. I know a lot of Public Works folks were there as well, past and present. Jeremy was there. Some faces who we haven't seen in a while were there as well. So very sad situation. Our thoughts and prayers are still with his family. But it was at least nice to be a part of that celebration of his life. And there were, as I said, a lot of faces past and present who came out to show their respects. And it was very clear that Al was a very loved human being. in Midvale City in particular and for all of the decades of work that he did here in Midvale City, I thought it appropriate to mention our support for his family and also just our respect for all the work that he did over the years. Not to be the Debbie Downer of the group, but that is it for my report. What do you have, Matt? Actually, you're not even on. Oh, there you are. Very bottom of the agenda.

19:28 – 19:4014

So the first one is, I feel like this is going to be one of those things where I'm going to say it and you're going to say I just said that. Did you talk about the ribbon cutting that you did on Saturday?

19:4012

I did not talk about that.

19:4114

Do you want to talk about that ribbon cutting?

19:42 – 21:1712

I will, yes. So on Saturday morning, and I recommend this place to everyone, Brooker's Founding Flavors ice cream opened in the Fort Union Shopping Center right next to the Pie Pizzeria. So very great combination, pizza and ice cream. What goes better? Nothing is the answer. So yeah, we did a ribbon cutting there. I love ribbon cuttings. They've never asked me to do one where I've said no because I find them to be fun. But this one, It's kind of like your kids. All ribbon cuttings are wonderful. I love them all. However, this one, top notch. There was a lot of people there won, but they really brought their A game to that one. They know how to do a ribbon cutting. They had A lot of people in the audience, they had trifold hats. I made a couple of puns, Founding Father kind of jokes. So it was a good time. Great ice cream. They have about 30 flavors, all kind of Founding Father, Revolutionary War, Hamilton-themed ice cream. So definitely recommend it. And for those who haven't been there yet, they do have a number of locations. It is a Utah-based company. I feel like I'm doing a commercial for Berker's Founding Flavors ice cream, located at... But yeah, city manager Matt Dahl and Lily, more importantly, was there as well. They took so many pictures of her because she is one of the cutest kids imaginable. But yeah, check it out if you haven't been there. It is quite the experience.

21:1914

I recommend the flavor Tori Apathy is what I had. Do you have anything else?

21:2712

No, that's it. Thank you.

21:28 – 24:0814

Okay. So a couple of things. Some questions had come up about what our position was going to be on watering our open spaces. As you'll recall, when the Jordan Valley Water Conservation District indicated that the water scarcity level for the areas they serve is going to be a two, which is severe, we implemented a lot of different changes in order to effectuate that. One of the things that it recommended for all of the people receiving their water was and really probably everyone, is that they not water until May 15th. We held to that with a couple of exceptions, cemetery stuff and some areas that had extremely high traffic from sports teams that were utilizing them. Starting this week, we are going to be moving to watering two times a week for most of the areas that we cover. And then of course, again, still trying to water some of the high use areas. So this is the recommendation that Jordan Valley has about the number of times that you should water. And so we're trying to stick to those and all the things that we can. So if anyone asks about the grass looking maybe a little bit less green than it has been, we're just trying to sort of do what we say. That's not it. I know you get what I'm trying to say. The words just didn't come out, Heidi. I'm sorry. Anyway, so we're working on that in case anyone has any questions. The other thing is the staff is working hard to get the application for the ZAP bond put together for the recreation center. I know this was discussed in a workshop, and I maybe brought it up in a previous city manager report. following up on the efforts that we've made and that the community has shown their support by approving the $11.5 million recreation bond in 2023. This application is one of the ways that we're hoping that we'll be able to fulfill the commitments that we made to the community with regards to the recreation center. And it was a short timeline to get it put together. I will be sending you information on the application so you can see what we submitted as we approach Friday. And then the process for the approval of that will go through August of this year. So just wanted to let you know that we're working hard on that. And then beyond that, I think everything else was covered by the mayor or other.

24:10 – 25:2912

Okay, thank you, City Manager Matt Dahl. We will move on then, unless there are any questions. I know that last one is a piece, the rec bond, that the council's very interested in. Any questions about that process? Okay, we will update you as we know more. They are choosing the four mayors who get to be a part of that board this Thursday, the 21st. So there are seven mayors who were nominated. I was one of those mayors, so I'm going to do my very hardest to get on that committee. If anyone up here knows mayors and are in tight with them, you can do some lobbying for me if you so choose. But I'll let you guys know how that goes after Thursday's meeting. Moving on, we have one public hearing on the schedule for tonight, and that is to receive public comment regarding amendments to the Midvale City fee schedule and utility rates for 2026. I know that's how it's written on here. This is also known as the water rates public hearing. I wanted, as Mariah comes up here, she beat me to it, but this is something we heard a lot of feedback from the community regarding water rates. I don't want to steal your thunder like Matt stole mine in the workshop.

25:299

Go right ahead.

25:30 – 26:1712

But after listening to concerns, very legitimate concerns from residents regarding water rates going up for every user, regardless of the tier that they're in, we have developed this new proposal that Mariah is going to speak to. But we do want to and I know Mariah is going to reiterate this too We want everyone to conserve as they can no matter how much water you use if you're the lowest water user in the city of Midvale we're in a severe drought and We are still urging everyone to do everything they can to conserve water in any way that they can however listening to the legitimate concerns of our residents we Decided to do the following cue Mariah

26:209

Maybe.

26:2112

Maybe. I can keep talking.

26:239

Go ahead.

26:23 – 26:4112

Spoiler alert. We're getting rid of the surcharge for everyone who's in that range of zero gallons to 12,000 gallons per month, which should include most, if not all, regular water users. So none of the higher tier water users.

26:42 – 29:549

I resaved this as the title as it was on the agenda just in my same spot I saved it and it's not Juan's fault at all that he didn't have it. Right? Is it right there too? Yes. All right. Sorry about that. I have a cool two slides for you. So nope, I used this, not that. OK. So I'm just going to go over what was previously adopted really quick. So we had the surcharge was applicable to all four tiers of consumption charges. Essentially, you have a base rate for your water. This does not apply to that. And then all of your usage in thousands of gallons is set into these tiers. this tiered system is required by the state for conservation. And so in Tier 1, that's all usage from 0 to 12,000 gallons, and then it kind of builds from there. So you are charged for whatever water use in that tier at that rate, and then it builds. So if we say Tier 1 water users, everyone could be any level of water user. It just depends on how much you consume in any given month. So we are going to apply that to all four rates in the beginning. And the levels were going to be based on the Jordan Valley Water Conservancy District and Midvale City's drought level designation. It was intended to encourage indoor and outdoor conservation practices. And there was not an effective date in the fee schedule, which we heard some feedback about. I was like, this is only in fact during summer months. And people were like, yeah, right, you're not going to take it off. So we added that to ensure that people will know that it will be removed. So this is what it looked like before. We're not actually... changing the rates. So it's still 25% level two, 50% level three, and 75% at level four. But we're removing that surcharge on any tier one usage. Though we still do want to encourage indoor and outdoor conservation practices, this just kind of puts the focus on outdoor usage. And then there will be no, so there'll be no surcharge on the tier one usage for anyone. And then we've designated that it will be based on the Jordan Valley Water Conservancy water supply availability designation just so there's no confusion with that. They've named it a different thing and so we're just in the fee schedule going off of what their name is and then the effective dates are based on service dates. I talked through my staff with this. This is a pretty complicated. I don't know that most people in the city know that we have two billing cycles. You either are billed mid-month to mid-month or the beginning of the month to the end of the month. And so just to make sure it's fair across for our billing cycle one, that's the mid-month. This will be in effect from May 15th to October 15th and for billing cycle two, May 1st to September 30th. And that is all in the fee schedule. So when it's adopted by you guys, that becomes the law. And then this is what the drought rates will look like. This will go into, it is in effect once you vote on it, but nobody will see it on a bill until they receive a bill in June. So any questions?

29:5612

If you didn't know there were two different bill cycles, don't feel bad because I didn't either. because I kept telling Mariah, no, I got my bill later than the first.

30:06 – 30:229

Yeah, and I was like, you didn't. There's no possible way. We cannot bill. And then we figured out. He's on billing cycle one. Okay, if you don't have any questions, I'm not using that. Here's a sample motion. I made it really big for you guys. Thank you.

30:2212

So this is a public hearing. So first, before we do, consider the motion. Is there a motion to open this to public comment?

30:307

Mayor, I motion we open public comment. Second.

30:33 – 30:5712

OK, motion and second. All those in favor of opening public comment, say aye. Aye. Yes. Any opposed? OK, this is open to public comment now. If there's any person in the public who would like to comment on this fee schedule or water rates, now's the time. Seeing no movement whatsoever, is there a motion to close public comment?

30:587

Mayor, a motion we close public comment. Second.

31:0112

OK, motion and a second. All those in favor of closing public comment, say aye.

31:0512

Any opposed? Public comment is closed. So now the sample motion that's on the board for all to see, unless there's any discussion from the council.

31:156

Mayor, I move that we adopt ordinance 2026-0-14, amending the Midvale City municipal fee schedule and utility rates for the 2026 fiscal year. Second.

31:2612

Okay, we have a motion, multiple seconds. Rory, will you call the yeas and nays on this?

31:305

Yes, Council Member Glover? Aye. Robinson? Aye. Brown?

31:345

McElhosh? Yes. And Billings? Yes.

31:36 – 31:4712

Okay, that passes unanimously. Moving on to the consent agenda, we have one item. To consider the minutes of May 5th, 2026, is there a motion to approve the consent agenda?

31:477

May I motion we approve the consent agenda?

31:495

Second.

31:4912

Okay, motion and a second. Rory, we call the yeas and nays.

31:535

Yes, Council Member Brown?

31:5512

Sorry, yes. Took a drink right when that happened. Sorry, I apologize.

31:585

Michelache? Yes. Billings? Yes. Glover? Aye. Ann Robinson? Aye.

32:02 – 34:3412

Okay, that passes unanimously. We have a number of action items tonight, the first of which is to consider resolution number 2026R28, confirming the appointment of Jeremy Thorne as the Public Works Director of Midvale City. And that is something that is on the agenda for me, and I want to express my support for the appointment of Jeremy Thorne as the Public Works Director. Jeremy brings more than 18 years of experience. I know he looks young. He's got a baby face, but been working in this arena for 18 years, first in South Jordan and then the last five years here in Midvale City as the Deputy Public Works Director. Jeremy has overseen all of the major divisions within the department during his time. as the Deputy Public Works Director, working very closely obviously with Glen Kennedy or as Matt referred to him in every one of the job interviews that we did, the current Public Works Director. At some point I had to interject because it sounded like that Glen just abdicated and moved to North Dakota or something, which he might do, but not until we get Jeremy in place with the Council's support. So Jeremy, come up here and say a few words if you want, but I just want to note that definitely as we did the interviews, Jeremy emerged as the very obvious candidate for this role, very well liked. I've asked some difficult questions, not of Jeremy in particular, but some of those who work with him and for him and I was very impressed with each one of those people saying this is absolutely the person for this job. So in the end it really wasn't a whole lot of, I mean we did interviews and there were very, very good people who interviewed for this position. I should be very clear about that. But, you know, with his last five years working so closely with Glenn in the deputy director position, definitely seemed like a very obvious fit to elevate him to the director position. And before you tonight, we'll be, you know, My recommendation to the council, with your consent, we'll appoint him as the new public works director. We'll have Glenn until June 11th. Glenn's counting down the days. He has a big calendar with big red X's on the days.

34:352

He said he still wanted to put up the Christmas decorations forever. He told me that this morning.

34:4114

And run the parade.

34:42 – 35:1512

Yeah. That sounds like Glenn. That's a very good idea. But this will also... This will also give Jeremy, not that he needs it, because he's been working closely with Glenn, not just for the past five years, but also previously at South Jordan, right? But there will be some overlap there where he'll get to do some job shadowing. Again, not that he needs it. So we have Jeremy here tonight. Jeremy, do you want to say a few words to the council, and then we'll proceed with some questions.

35:15 – 35:4815

Good evening, council. I'm excited about this position and being able to continue to lead our great public works employees just in a little different role and help provide all the services that we provide you in this community so i am i'm very looking forward to it and to keep the progress that glenn and i have made together over the last five years going and keep us moving forward okay thank you jeremy i know

35:4812

Can you tell the council the analogy you used with the train that resonated with me during our second interview with Jeremy?

35:57 – 36:3015

So I felt like when I was first hired, we had a train sitting around, let's just say, and what we did is we put in the framework and got that train on the tracks over the last five years with the changes we've made and the programs we've implemented. And my goal is to keep that train going, complete all of our master plans, and provide all the services to move this city into the future.

36:31 – 36:4612

OK, thank you. If there are questions from council, we'll do two rounds of 10-minute questions for each council member. No, I don't think there might be one question from Council Member Brown. But are there any questions for Jeremy, for Glenn, for Matt or I, the process?

36:48 – 37:024

I just want to say thank you for stepping up and interviewing and taking this on. I think you have big shoes. I haven't been here that long, but I've heard really big shoes to fill. But it sounds like you've had a good mentor and appreciate you continuing to keep the train moving forward. I think you guys do an amazing job.

37:0215

Thank you.

37:03 – 37:216

Not a lot of what she just said, as we are heartbroken that Glenn is leaving us. I think you, having been here, having the experience and knowing what our plans look like for the future is invaluable for us. And I'm very excited that you were kind enough to step up to the position. So thank you.

37:21 – 37:342

Thank you. I was able to spend four or five hours in a golf court last fall. Jeremy, remind me, didn't you work private before you worked?

37:34 – 38:1015

Yeah, before I started my career working for local government, I worked in a number of private roles as operations manager, distributions manager, and so I had a lot of construction experience and that has helped me in my role up to this date. So yeah, I was also a licensed general contractor for a number of years. So I do have a lot of experience in a lot of different areas.

38:11 – 39:002

So I brought that up because I think that's really important. some pretty high-level experience. I think one that brings some, you know, you weren't 18 and started, you know, in the system, so you got to see how a lot of things work. But I also think it says a lot about a person that stays, right? Our budgets are probably not as big as you would like them to be. Way more, Dustin's, or Mayor's favorite word, everything's government-y. So there's, you know, Few more steps than probably if you're in private practice, so I I wanted to bring it up to the council new You know you have a lot of experience outside. They're really stuck with me, so I think that's a very a very good Thing not a not a negative so appreciate it glad that you did stay in the private side or in the public side Thank you Thank You Jeremy Thanks, Utah BYU

39:0312

He's been prepped for this question.

39:04 – 39:2415

All right, so. I wasn't going to do it. Yeah. So both my boys played, or both my boys attended Utah State. OK. And one just graduated, and he's entering the master's program up there. I'll say Aggie Blue on this one. Oh, wow. Way to prepare to be Switzerland.

39:252

That is the way to go. Maybe second guess. I forget what I said about the public.

39:297

Blue is the way to go. It's Aggie Blue, though.

39:34 – 40:3812

Yeah, that's Paul's favorite, Council Member Glover's favorite answer. Where I graduated from. Aggie blue. But to be serious, just real quick, Jeremy, from my interactions with Public Works now, has the support of the people at Public Works and that's very important for this role. Anyone who, when you lose a director to retirement or any, for any reason, that turmoil can create some angst among the folks who do the day-to-day work and every person I spoke to in Public Works including Glenn Kennedy has said that you're the person for this job. So it was very important to Matt and I and everyone on the hiring committee that the person in this position already has the support. We could have brought someone in from outside. There were people who have never worked in government before who applied for this job, but it just wouldn't have been a great fit with the culture that we've maintained here in Midvale. So with that, if there are any other comments.

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I just have one more thought on that. The one thing that you will get at this position, which I'm sure you're aware of because you've seen here most of the time, is we up here get constant feedback, comments from our constituents. Your department, soon to be, is one of the higher ones that people have thoughts, comments, suggestions. I will say usually the more positive ones, except for if you don't plow a street or something along those lines. So that's good. I do think now you'll be the, unfortunately, the one where we're going to sit here and go, now normally it's Glenn, you know. So we're all in the service industry, whether we want to say that or not. And I also do this in my day job. I feel like an attorney is a service industry. I think we just, and you'll probably do this, so I'm just kind of giving this general advice, is when we come and say, hey, citizens want a speed bump here or whatever, it might not make sense. It might make sense. But I feel like everything should kind of be yes, but. You know, not necessarily right away, no, we can't afford it, no, right? That way we can show... as a service industry, yes, thank you, we're thinking about it. Yes, we maybe could do that, but it'll cost this much money, or it could take 10 years. Or, you know, unless it's illegal, right? Like the state doesn't let us do that. Just keep that in your mind, because now I feel like Glenn kind of was the buffer for you sometimes, and now you'll be the buffer for your team where we have to come and say, oh, man, people are frustrated about the snow plows or whatever. And I think we do a good job at that. at playing defense for you. But you'll get probably a little bit more from us.

42:1715

Yeah, I understand that and I'm very amenable to working with you and doing the things that make sense and help the community. Appreciate it.

42:2912

Okay, if there are no other questions or comments, I lay before you on the table my recommendation to appoint Jeremy Thorne as the Public Works Director.

42:392

Mayor, I move that we, oh, we're suspending the rules for this? Is that right?

42:4312

I didn't wear a tie, but Jeremy did. We can't do it. It's just not allowed. Sorry, I just wanted to make sure the words were right.

42:501

They are.

42:502

Okay, I move that we suspend the rules and approve Resolution 2026-R-28, confirming the mayoral appointment of Jeremy Thorne as the Public Works Director of Midvale City.

42:598

Second.

43:0012

Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the yeses and nos?

43:045

Yes, Council Member Billings. Yes. Glover. Aye.

43:075

Robinson? Aye. Brown?

43:095

And Micolash? Yes.

43:11 – 43:3712

Okay, that passes unanimously. Congratulations, Jeremy. Let's do a round of applause. With this position, we don't get to do this very much, but with this position comes an oath of office. Glenn did this when Rory stood on a chair because of the height difference. We offered her a stool, but she's good to go.

43:375

If it was going to be a son, I'd need a ladder.

43:4112

And if family wants to come up, they can. You don't have to. You're welcome to. We can do pictures afterwards if you guys want to do that.

43:485

Okay. Jeremy, raise your right hand. Repeat after me. I say your name.

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I, Jeremy Thorne.

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Do solemnly swear.

43:5615

Do solemnly swear.

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That I will support, obey, and defend.

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That I will support, obey, and defend.

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The Constitution of the United States.

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The Constitution of the United States.

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And the Constitution of the State of Utah.

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And the Constitution of the State of Utah.

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And the laws and ordinances.

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And the laws and ordinances.

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Of Midvale City.

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Of Midvale City.

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And that I will discharge.

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And that I will discharge.

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The duties of my office.

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The duties of my office. With fidelity. With fidelity. Congratulations.

44:335

And if council wants, well, we're going to do a picture on the stairs.

45:1912

This is my last one.

45:227

It is. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup.

45:243

Yup. Yup.

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Yup. Yup.

45:4814

Is that a cough that you're coming from?

45:502

What's that? Is that a cough that you're coming from? Uh-huh. I saved the sick leave for a reason.

46:007

I tore something in my shoulder.

46:020

We'll see.

46:0512

We will never see him again. That's a private guy. We just want people to know.

46:090

Are you going to sleep then? Or are you going to lay on the floor? I'm going to lay on the floor.

46:24 – 47:1112

Okay, again, congratulations. He might be able to hear us. Congratulations, Jeremy. We look forward to your long and storied career as our new Public Works Director. And we will have time to say a final farewell to Glenn at his retirement party. Details to come. He wants a big bash, is what I heard. Okay, moving on to our second action item tonight, consider resolution number 2026R31, accepting a special warranty deed for 705 West Ivy Drive, Midvale, from the redevelopment agency in Midvale City. Here to discuss this, Levi McNeil. Welcome, Levi. Community Mayor, Council.

47:16 – 48:123

As you know, we're in the process of updating the PubWorks campus. As part of this project, the city needs to consolidate consolidated parcels associated with the properties, including the facility of this project. The first phase of this includes a new parking lot on the north side of the property. To accommodate this first phase, the city needed to acquire a section of land from Wasatch Gardener. And this upper triangle piece with the arrows in it, that's where the parking lot is to be placed. So this land was not usable by Gardener Wasatch for their adjacent development and was transferred to the RDA via special warranty deed. Staff is asking for the city council to approve the city acquiring the land from the RDA And in the RDA meeting, we'll be asking the RDA board to approve transferring the land to the city via special warranty deed. Any questions?

48:1412

Any questions for Levi? Short and sweet. I love it.

48:164

Can we get bigger fonts in the future?

48:19 – 48:305

You need to change the logo. First thing to do when Glenn leaves, change that logo. Make it small. Make the lettering bigger and the logo smaller, Glenn.

48:303

Levi, you can do that before I leave. You set me up for failure on this.

48:345

I've been wanting to say that for a long time.

48:3712

All right. I'll do that. Okay, if there are no questions or comments from council, the suggested motion is very tiny in front of you.

48:4714

We will need to suspend the rules.

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Mayor, I move that we suspend the rules and approve resolution number 2026-R-31, accepting a special warranty deed for property at 705 West Ivy Drive, Midvale, from the Redevelopment Agency of Midvale City. Second. Second.

49:0412

Hey, we have a motion and a second. Rory, will you call the yeas and nays?

49:085

Yes. Council Member Robinson? Aye. Brown?

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Michelache? Yes. Billings? Yes. And Glover? Aye.

49:15 – 49:4512

Okay. That passes unanimously. Thank you, Levi. Thank you. Moving on, consider resolution number 2026, R30, approving a funding agreement between Midvale City and United Way of Salt Lake for community block party funds. Here to discuss this is Vanessa, who earlier today beat me at Angry Birds Topgolf. Quite the come from behind victory, which I'm still stewing about. It's impressive. Congratulations on your victory.

49:46 – 50:1013

You have a very consistent stroke. All right. Pardon? Okay. Hello, council. I am Vanessa. I'm the coalition coordinator for Uplift Midvale, a community coalition for youth violence prevention. I'm here to propose. Oh, okay. Can I bring my last thought? Do you mind?

50:119

I think something weird.

50:19 – 54:1713

talk to our team about that. Log a ticket. You gotta log a ticket. Yep, yep, there you go. We'll see. My apologies. I am here to propose two resolutions. And of course, we got our grant from United Way for a community block event. And of course, this is... for $3,500. This is a big deal for us as it is a new partnership with Promise Partnership. All right. Mm-hmm. Bear with me, thank you. It will only allow me to present in teams. I have it plugged in. Hey. Hey. Did you get it? Perfect. Awesome. So that was everything I knew from memory for the first slide. Thanks. All right, so this is the first resolution of the two that I'll be proposing today. Of course, it's for the one-time grant for $3,500 for Midvale City. Block partying funds is to support a community block party event. So the event must align with Promise Partnership values, which is relationships, respect, continuous growth in communities and of course to also share and celebrate with the community. The event that we've decided on is a street mural. Very exciting. I'm really excited about it. It's a passion project. The event will take place on June 12th through the 13th. On the 12th from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. we'll be doing layout and preparations with the artist. Spectators are welcome. Of course, on the same day at 5 p.m., from 5 p.m. to 8.30 p.m., we'll have tacos and community participation. And then on the 13th, we'll continue for finishing touches, if necessary, with the artist and the community, if necessary. As far as why we chose to apply for this grant, it was a good match because a street mural event aligns with our Midvale risk and protective factors with uplift. The neighborhood attachment is our risk factor. Opportunities for pro-social involvement is a strategy that we use for positive, I'm sorry, protective factors, and then of course it also aligns with Mobile City efforts in beautifying investing in public spaces. And then lastly, it does help with traffic and pedestrian safety. As far as the agreement report requirements, they do provide a report summarizing attendance of the event, community impact, use of funds, event successes and challenges, collaboration with community and partners. And the hope is to reapply for this block party grant for fiscal year 2027, and hopefully do it again this next year. Financial impact, the cost overall, the estimation is $12,500. The award is $3,500, which gets us started, and then the coalition will be impacted, our fund will be impacted by $9,000. The general fund, however, will not be impacted. This is the recommended motion. Do I have any questions in regards to this agreement?

54:1812

Any questions for Vanessa?

54:206

Where is the mural going?

54:2213

That is in my next. Oh, okay, I'll wait a minute. Okay. No spoilers.

54:2912

Okay, if there are no questions, the motion's on the board, and we're suspending the rules again.

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Mayor, I move that we suspend the rules and approve resolution number 2026-R-30, approving the funding agreement between Midvale City and United Way of Salt Lake and authorize city staff to accept and expend the $3,500 block party funds in accordance with the agreement requirements. Second.

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Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, we call the ayes and ayes.

54:555

Yes. Council Member Brown.

54:585

McElhosh. Yes. Billings. Yes. Glover. Aye. Ann Robinson. Aye.

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Okay, that passes unanimously. Moving on to the next item. Consider resolution number 2026, R29, approving the artist agreement with JC Baird and authorizing the use of public property and roadway at identified intersections. So here to tell us more about this is Vanessa.

55:20 – 57:4213

Yes, so the second proposal is to approve the artist agreement and of course we're going to be using the public spaces The location of the street mural will be on Foxbridge Drive, Foxbridge Circle, and Bridge Road. So that intersection that you see right there. This will also allow for some one lane traffic to keep moving in there. However, we do hope that the day of the event between 5 and 8, 30 PM, it will be closed off for the event and community participation. Some of the reasons why we chose this is because it is in the middle of facilities including Copperview Rec Center, Ruth Tyler Library, and Copperview Elementary. It's a really great neighborhood. It has a variety of families, community members. So all reasons why we chose this location. Not to mention why we chose a street mural is because it provides a calming aesthetic. Research has shown it's also increased safety for pedestrians and cyclists. And of course, it also aligns with our risk and protective factors for upliftment bill. We are hoping that you approve our public property usage. as this project will require temporary use of public streets and right of way. We can definitely go into detail if you have any questions about that. We have taken precautions to use the safety measures and contracted for traffic control using signage and coordination to ensure the public safety. The key terms of the artist agreement is that the designer will complete the street mural design revisions and final installation. This is the design that we have concluded on. There might be some adjustments in regards to where the snake's going to go, or maybe we'll add some koi fish crossing the street just to be a little bit more interactive with pedestrians. The compensation of the artist is $5,000 in two installments before and after. Medieval City will retain sole ownership of the mural, including intellectual property and rights. Medieval City will retain discretion and fiscal responsibility for maintenance and repair. So in case we decide to repaint it next year for another block party or in a few years, then that will just give us reason for another party. As far as examples of J.C. Baird's pieces, she does a lot of stained glass. So this was also a reason why we were like, paint by numbers will work really well with her aesthetics. These are some of her beautiful pieces. I didn't include the dog one because dogs rule. Here's the recommendation motion.

57:4312

Okay, thank you.

57:44 – 59:052

Vanessa, any questions from council? I find this location really interesting. It's in my district, and I don't think my district's going to love this location. I'll be 100% honest with you. There's a lot of angst with that area. I don't know. It's an interesting decision to do that spot. You know, closer to the school or something would have made more sense, but right in the middle of that community is probably not going to be all that well received. It's like people are not people don't want to go down that road now and they're not going to want to them So I'm I definitely do not like this spot. I like the idea. I like the artwork I don't know if I realized it, but we can I mean the council can decide I'm just speaking from someone that lives in sort of this area. Yeah Like we've had to have special Meetings with the surrounding neighborhood, you know streets that are right behind it and I feel like it could kind of almost insult those people where they feel like Citi is not helping us and generating, using their funds to help some pretty big issues. And instead putting money towards that area. I don't know. It's an interesting idea.

59:13 – 1:00:3614

Part of the reason this area was selected and a lot of it was what Vanessa had previously covered is that it is intended to target neighborhoods where there are populations that need some additional support and also finding a way to try to connect those neighborhoods with those around them. And so through the coalition and looking at those objectives, that's what led us to this particular location and the fact that it connects between the two copper views, recreation center and school. There was also some stuff where I believe there were some other locations that were looked at earlier as well. And some of it also has to do with traffic patterns and where those effects would happen, negative effects of this project could hamper traffic. So there was a variety of things that led the coalition to look at this particular location And I would, I hear you, and I would hope that some of those folks who have had some of those concerns, too, would just recognize as well that these aren't funds that we could just use anywhere for anything.

1:00:36 – 1:01:422

Yeah, I understand that, but it's like a hard sell when they want to have another meeting. They haven't said it yet, right? But it's like, hey, we know a lot of rats are coming from this spot. Can the city help? mitigate that or pay for that, right? And it's like, no, but we painted the sidewalk over by them, right? Like, I don't think, you know, I don't know. Just, that's the only area I've had like a targeted mayor, I think the last three mayors have had a meeting scheduled because of real big concerns with some other safety issues there, right, in that exact street. So I don't know. I hear what you're saying. I hear why it's targeted. I'm just expressing there could be a lot of backlash, right? Because people will think, not only are you not listening, now you are putting funds over there, but not in a way that addresses what they think are legitimate concerns. So that's my only thing. I'm hoping that was sort of factored in when that was decided, that there's this real angst.

1:01:43 – 1:02:3713

Yes. So if, I mean, not that to repeat everything that you just said, but I know that a lot of the research that we did was mainly from boots on the ground, also using UPD crime rates. And we also looked at some of the referral data that we got from JDYS. And a lot of, there was a lot of like thought, thought that was put into this location. And of course the traffic piece was also difficult and finding a spot to do it one time over. Not to mention, we have applied for other grants to do this sort of project, and we decided on two different districts, and one included District 4. And as far as our youth advocate, Kawhi, he also lives in District 4, and he told me this as well. And from the viewpoint of the coalition, it's more reason to do it. because of that bridge, and it's hopeful.

1:02:37 – 1:03:172

Which is fair, but I feel like if people in the district are saying something different, the coalition's, because I will tell you, for people that don't live on that street, they will tell their kids not to go down the street. Right, yes. So what is that value add there, right? And the fact that people in the area are saying this is kind of not maybe the best decision, but the coalition's like, well, we're doing it because we think it is. I think on the fringe of that area would have been a lot more beneficial, like Foxbridge and Monroe. Yes. Something like that, where you could start to introduce the area. But dead in the middle, as honest I can be, people will not go see it.

1:03:1813

Fair. And everybody in Midvale City is welcome to come. It's not just the neighborhood.

1:03:232

I guess if District 4's traffic pattern doesn't matter and we want other people to, then that's fine. But it does feel a little like District 4 is going to be very angst about it.

1:03:3212

Is there any opportunity at this point to reconsider the location of the mural?

1:03:41 – 1:04:2713

I am open to it. It just comes down to our contractor. What is it? Barricade, Utah Barricade. And then also our assistant over at Public Works. It really comes down to that. I know that Monroe and Foxbridge, we also looked at that. But there's a bus route that's along that line. So interrupting those services for time for us to lay it out and then also time to cure was kind of the challenge because we didn't want another incident like other street murals that we've done in Medieval City that didn't last. And the artist, J.C. Baird, she worked on some of those items and she was very adamant. She's like, we need to have time to preserve this piece. You mean like Main Street when we lost it all?

1:04:282

Is that what we're talking about? I just don't have data.

1:04:31 – 1:04:4913

I don't have any facts because it was before my time. But she was very adamant about having time to cure and to have that time. So we also have to power wash the night before. So it's just more of an operational piece as well. but hopefully we could, I'd be happy to reconsider that.

1:04:49 – 1:05:442

I don't want to exclude that area, but I'm trying to think what would make the most sense where you slowly bring that area into acceptance with everyone around them. And I think, I personally think dead middle will do the opposite at the moment, right? And hopefully we can grow and expand You know, like when we had those meetings, I was like, why didn't we invite some of the people from over there, right? Because otherwise it's kind of just a gripe fest. So it's not that I'm insensitive to it. I just, the reality of how aggressive all the streets surrounding it feel about it. And they have some legitimate, you know, and some probably not. You know, I just want to, I don't want us to look like we have... We're rife with cash to be able to put something in a place that the neighborhood thinks no one wants to go. I don't know.

1:05:45 – 1:06:0913

Just my thoughts on that. The only other thing to add to that is that on an operational piece, the measurements of the road for the artist to have worked on, it can easily also be redistributed as the size of roads are. mostly standardized in that neighborhood. So that's also another piece.

1:06:104

Weren't you looking in District 5 like a year ago to do this?

1:06:14 – 1:06:2813

Yes. So we looked at District 4 and we looked at District 5. District 4, we kind of decided that they have the higher participants and engagement from the community. So that was something that was considered when talking with leadership about different areas.

1:06:282

That's like a double-edged sword because I totally agree. I get it both directions.

1:06:34 – 1:06:4813

Yes, and once it was because it's our first one, and yeah, I'm confident that we're going to do this again. That's how confident I feel about it. Granted, such considerations, if it doesn't go well, it might also hinder our ability to do it again in the future.

1:06:53 – 1:07:057

I don't know. I go with Councilman Brown that he knows more about that area than I do. And I'd hate to put something in there that wasn't appreciated or even wanted.

1:07:05 – 1:07:216

Well, to Vanessa's point, I don't want to hinder us to be able to do this again. While I like that we're stretching and getting some public art out into different areas, I do have to listen to Councilmember Brown on that one. That is his district. So maybe we need to identify some different areas.

1:07:23 – 1:07:5114

Just want to clarify and not disagreeing with anything that's being said there. And if we are looking to move it, the funds that are funding this are coming from a grant through the county in order to do specific things. And the use of that in less affluent streets, neighborhoods, that kind of stuff is sort of what that is targeted towards.

1:07:522

So I don't think Foxbridge is a bad idea.

1:07:55 – 1:08:2514

And so I'm just like just looking on the ends of Foxbridge at the beginning. And so like as I'm looking, I don't know that I'm going to come up with that answer now, but it's either because if it's at the end intersections, it's either on Monroe or it's right on the rec center. And it doesn't say that we can't do it. We just haven't looked at it and what those, at least the rec center side anyways, and what the challenges around that would be. So I'm just trying to think if the solution here is...

1:08:30 – 1:08:484

Knowing that the library will be replaced and not used, and that the rec center might evolve or change down the road, do we take any of that into, because I know you tied it around those areas, but those are kind of evolving. Will it make sense if those change?

1:08:5314

Sorry, will you word that again differently?

1:08:564

I'm just saying, like, the library's going to shut down and move. The rec center could. Does that change where we put it? Because it sounds like we put it where kids were engaging.

1:09:0713

Yes. I would hope that the skate park still stays there. But that's a whole different discussion at a different time.

1:09:1214

And it's also far off is the other thing. And so for the rec center, right? For the library.

1:09:184

The library, yeah.

1:09:1914

Hopefully not far off.

1:09:22 – 1:09:452

Not this year. But the rec center could be like 10 years, right? Yeah. I hate to put you guys on the spot. I normally try to defer. I'm just saying it's the most angst I've ever got on council continually with all three mayors of having meeting. Dustin, have you had one with them yet?

1:09:4513

Not yet.

1:09:452

Not yet. But it'll probably come.

1:09:4813

I tried to reach out to some of the neighborhood people that did try to, because I also attended some of those meetings. Sorry.

1:09:55 – 1:10:0714

Yeah. If we were to try to rework it and come back on the second, is that doable in order to try to hit the timeframe? Is that?

1:10:09 – 1:10:2813

I'm all for it. We will probably have to go over the contract again, just to clarify that the event location is, So we might have to review that. That's going to be fine. Traffic plan, I think that will have to be a public works thing. I say, yeah, that's totally fine.

1:10:28 – 1:10:5314

So then what we'll do then is we'll come back on the... We'll need to adjust the traffic stuff. We'll come back on the second. And in the meantime... we'll figure out some way of sort of trying to collaborate between the coalition recommendation and have Councilmember Brown weigh in on the final location for it.

1:10:53 – 1:11:152

Okay, that would be great. I just don't want it to, like, it's the first one, right? And then the people that are most angsty about this area are some of the most vocal on Facebook. And they could get a very strong anti-movement on it. And not that we defer to that, but I don't think we want to start off with that with our first one.

1:11:157

What if we talk to those people and see if they're interested in it at all?

1:11:21 – 1:12:3313

You tried, didn't you? Okay, so I've tried reaching out to specific folks from specific neighborhoods that have raised concerns. And from the last meeting that I had with them, they said, MENTIONED SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE COMMUNALLY FRIENDLY. OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY MENTIONED WERE TO DO A MURAL. AND SO THIS WAS ACCORDING TO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. I'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM. THEY HAVE NOT REACHED OUT BACK. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. SECOND PIECE IS PART OF OUR EVENT PROMOTION IS TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAND OUT FLYERS OURSELVES. So part of that, we also had Mayor Gettle participate or is hoping to participate in handing out some of those flyers. We're hoping to interact with the public that way. Additionally, the other marketing and promotion that we were hoping to do is invite all of Midvale City. So then not everybody knows exactly all of the idiosyncrasies that are happening in that neighborhood. So there's still a possibility of having the community attend that don't necessarily know about that. And that might draw more people. And that was my hope. Councilman Brown, I definitely had these concerns as well. That's good. So it's not because it wasn't considered. And these were our somewhat hopeful solutions.

1:12:34 – 1:13:182

I guess maybe in the future, if you like, ping the council member in that area. Yeah. As you guys get to go to the meetings or something, sometimes I have six or seven months tail of them still talking to me, right? And if I feel like it needs to go to the city, I will pass along, but sometimes it's just people wanting to to have someone to gripe to, and I gratefully will take that responsibility. Just because I'll push the envelope with your guys' suggestions, because I think turning neighborhoods over or whatever, I just think this is one of the times that it would, it's gotta be very incremental in that area.

1:13:1813

Out of all the intersections to pick in that district, right.

1:13:24 – 1:13:3812

Why don't we think about then, even though we did just approve the funding agreement, which is fine, that can stay in place. That's okay. Why don't we think about tabling this with further direction regarding the location?

1:13:3913

Thank you for your work.

1:13:4012

I'm sorry.

1:13:4113

It's okay. All of the hard work is already done. We just have to change the location. That's okay. Thanks so much.

1:13:4812

Thank you, Vanessa. Is there a motion from the council to table this item?

1:13:552

It's D, right?

1:13:58 – 1:14:132

Mayor, I move that we table resolution number 2026-R-29, approving the artist agreement with JC Baird and authorizing the use of public property and roadway at identified intersection for the next city council meeting. June 2nd. For June 2nd.

1:14:165

June 2nd.

1:14:1612

Okay. Motion and a second. Rory, will you call the roll on that?

1:14:195

Yes. Council Member McElhosh. Yes. Billings? Yes. Glover? Aye. Robinson? Aye. And Brown?

1:14:28 – 1:22:2312

Yes. Okay. That passes unanimously. That is tabled to our next council meeting. We have two discussion items. First one, discussion regarding an ordinance establishing the community clean energy program in Midvale City. Here to do that is me, Mayor Dustin Gettle, and I am going to go down to the podium. Okay, I didn't just disappear, but I placed my copy of the PowerPoint here earlier today. Welcome, Council. It is me, Mayor Dustin Gettle. I'm here to go over the Community Clean Energy Program. A lot of this stuff we've discussed a number of times in the past, but just a programmatic update and to discuss the next steps that we have to take in order to decide whether we want to formally be a part of this program or not. This is the first time I've done one of these presentations up here. So I have included two very quick cartoons. One of them is for Bryant specifically, who's not paying attention. But just some renewable energy humor, including the alternative energy drinks there on the right, which Bryant is such a fan of. moving right along. Just a refresher, what is the community clean energy program you might ask? And that's a great question because the name has changed a number of times. This most recent change to the community clean energy program we thought better identifies what we're actually trying to do. There's some discussion whether you say clean energy, renewable energy, Definitely don't say green energy because that sometimes has connotations that aren't great. So what is the Community Clean Energy Program? We'll discuss the Public Service Commission order approving the program and the program rates. We'll discuss the anticipated timeline of adopting the resolution and participating in the program, talk about the program ordinance itself, what does it do, what does it not do, and then of course discuss the consideration of the ordinance itself. We'll bring this back on June 2nd for a final vote, but today is just to air out any of our concerns or or questions about the community. I will say before I hit the next slide, today is the day where almost every community is discussing this or voting upon it. If you see, you probably saw me up there checking my phone every two minutes. I'm trying to get updates from Cottonwood Heights who are currently discussing this and they're entering their second hour of public comment because their council has indicated some reservation about joining, officially joining, passing the resolution to join the program. There seems to be a lot of public comment imploring their council to join. Not that that's binding on us, but... just as a consideration. About the Utah Renewable Communities Program, I do want to say a lot of terminology is used kind of interchangeably here at the bottom, explains the 19 communities involved in this effort are the Utah Renewable Communities. That's the URC. The program that we are debating whether to join or not is the Community Clean Energy Program. So if you see URC, note that that means the 19 communities. If you see CCEP, That is the program itself. So about the URC program, the Community Clean Energy Program, brand new program, as we know, giving Utahns the ability to choose reliable and affordable clean energy through Rocky Mountain Power. The program was designed, again, through a partnership. It's one of those things where you're like, why is Rocky Mountain Power pushing so hard for this? They want this just as much as the communities do. So they've been very good to work with. They understand the importance of that. So in March 2026, at the beginning of March, the program was officially approved by the Utah Public Service Commission. As all of us know, working in government, getting something approved by the Public Service Commission that involves 19 communities from across all of Utah, pretty heavy lift. And there are a lot of government-y things that occurred in those negotiations, but It was finally approved at the beginning of March 2026, and that sets the 60-day timeline in place, which June 2nd is the 60-day. We'll be up on June 2nd, and that's when all 19 communities need to make a decision whether they are to proceed or not. A decision otherwise means that they're not participating, so they could table it, but if you don't adopt it by June 2nd, you do not have the ability to participate in the program. About the URC program again, and by investing in clean energy, the Utah renewable communities will help meet Utah's growing energy needs while keeping power reliable and our air cleaner for generations. Here's the crux of the program. So all of this, you can talk at a very high level about this stuff. And when I sit in those meetings and they do talk at a very high level about this stuff, I retain half of it. And then I Google the rest of it later and try to figure out what exactly is meant. At the very end of the day, it's pretty simple. The goal of this program is to drive the development of clean energy while keeping the program affordable and accessible. That was the most important, as I remember from the council members, keeping it affordable for folks and keeping it accessible. In other words, if you don't want to be involved in this program, you don't have to be, and there's an easy opt-out program if you want. But the question that we might be asked is, what the heck does this program do? What is the point of this program? So these two graphs give a very basic explanation of what the goal is. And that is to build enough program resources to match the amount of electricity used annually by participants. And by participants, we don't mean everyone in the state of Utah. We mean participants who adopt the resolution and participate this program. So what that means for Midvale is we would look to over time generate enough clean energy to match the consumption of our residents. So you'll see on the right here phase one, two, three, and four the middle section the orange electricity from fossil fuels will slowly shrink and And the part of the pie represented by additional renewable energy from the program and existing renewable energy in the grid will expand to get to phase four where there's no orange whatsoever, it's just blue and green. And the blue and green means that we have achieved the goal on the left, the consumption of our community is now equal to the clean energy that the program has generated. I'm gonna stop there. Are there any questions about that? Okay, because I can get into kilowatt hours and pulling from the grid, all of that stuff.

1:22:238

I do have a question about how long is all these phases expected to happen, if it goes the right way?

1:22:28 – 1:47:1412

Yeah, I'll get to that in a few minutes, yeah. But that, obviously, if this is something that's going to take 100 years, we probably wouldn't be too interested in that. But there is a pretty quick turnaround where this can happen pretty quickly. Again, it does somewhat depend on how many communities participate, but I'll get to that in just a moment. So program development process 2019, the Utah legislature created this program, the framework for it. At that time, Midvale City, we chose not to participate in that program. I know there was some spirited debate on the council at the time, but moving forward, 23 communities initially adopted the program. They initially required each community to adopt a net 100% resolution. That proved controversial in some communities and you'll see 19 communities signed that initial governance agreement. So we come into this in 2024 as you will recall in October 2024 Mayor Marcus Stevenson who was on the board at the time brought this program to our attention and we at that point through an act of the legislature which initially ended the program the ability to join the program ended in 2019 they reopened that in 2021, some additional communities like Midvale decided that we would participate at that point. All communities signed and Rocky Mountain Power, that's when the negotiation began then with the Public Service Commission to get their approval. All of this means nothing if the Public Service Commission doesn't sign off on it. So that process, really quick, we joined in October 2024. That process began the next month, November 20th. So from that time until just March, that's how long that took until March 2026 when the Public Service Commission approved the program. which was record time, actually. It only took two years. But we also became, so whenever Mayor Stevenson resigned, we were on the board, but we weren't, and he wasn't a voting member, I wasn't a voting member. I just kind of sat there and like, what is the point of being on this board if we're not a vote and have any actual teeth in what goes forward. So in January of this year, I requested from you, the council, and you approved the funds to Basically, you have to buy into the program. There's no better way to say it. But once we paid that final, it was always in a two-step part and we chose at the time to not do it all at once. That's why, you know, we paid our initial fee to get in and there was a second payment that was due and when we paid that second payment, that's when we got to be a voting member. of the board. I didn't think it made much sense to prolong that until after the program was already approved. So the council was kind enough to put the funds together to make that second payment and since January I've been a voting member of the board. Moving forward, I can't see, I can look down here, but Matt, you're perfectly blocking. There we go. March 4th, 2026, Utah Public Service Commission reviewed and released an order. This, in essence, approved the program, some slight modifications, nothing to be concerned with for most of us. I mean, anyone could have a concern about it, but We were pretty happy with what they approved and some of the recommendations that they made were not prohibitive of moving forward. So this is where we will be at our next council meeting. Communities must now decide whether to adopt. That's the 90-day window that was given by the Public Service Commission whether to enact the program or not. This talks about most of what we just said, but on March 4th, the Public Service Commission approved a clean energy program. The order did address key details like the initial program rate, which everyone up here is very interested in, myself included, customer opt-out details, which I think is very key to the program being successful. And leaving more complex issues regarding future program reporting methods and mechanisms for a follow up ruling and decision from the board. Those are admittedly some pretty complicated issues that we will get to in the future. But nothing, again, that's prohibitive of starting this process now. So the order again allows the URC program to move forward. The 90 day clock has begun. Again, we have until June 2nd. One of the things, so we debated for a long time whether to have this as a vote tonight or not. And ultimately, through consultation with city manager, I thought it was wise to let all of the other cities debate and vote. And then on June 2nd, when we come back, we will have the advantage to know what all the other cities did. prior to us voting because I do think it's important that if you know of the 19 communities if 18 of them decided not to join the program you'd probably want to have that information before voting so We will bring this back as a voting action item on the second but so far I'm happy to report that Salt Lake City, Springdale, Emigration Canyon, Moab, Park City, Francis, which I will admit to you, did not know was a city in the state of Utah. Sorry for those who are joining us online from Francis. I will visit your community soon. Ogden, Salt Lake County voted just today, a 5-4 vote. They decided to be a part of the program. Summit County, that was a slam dunk with those folks. And Alta, also a slam dunk in Alta. So of these communities, and this number is not representative of Salt Lake County, Again, just to clarify, Salt Lake County participating doesn't mean the entire county and all of the population in Salt Lake County. Salt Lake County is the unincorporated areas of Salt Lake County will participate in the program. So not a huge population, but still a nice stamp of approval from our friends at Salt Lake County. So these communities, Salt Lake County not being included, because I just got that decision today, but so far over with Salt Lake County, about 75% of the total eligible electric load, measured in kilowatt hours of course, has now agreed to participate in the program. So there are some outstanding communities. We are one of the biggest ones, still outstanding in terms of population. But with all of those, we're right at about three quarters of the total eligible electric load, so that's good. One community has dropped out of the program after a vote of their council last Monday. We won't mention them by name, Kearns. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel. I have been told that they might be calling an emergency special council meeting to reconsider that no vote. So there's hope for Kearns yet, and we do hope that they join the program. It would be, in my opinion, this is my opinion only, but you've gotten to this point. We've gotten to this point as well as Midvale City. We've put close to, I'm looking at Mariah here, about $50,000. With the additional, yeah. So putting all that money into the program already and then dropping out of it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me. You put in all the money and work, and then nobody in your community gets to benefit from the program. But to each council their own, and again, I hope they do reconsider that decision. Anticipated timeline, so bring you up to the left, March 4th, again, Public Service Commission approval, 90 day, you're gonna hear me say June 2nd over and over again. But then, once June 2nd, if we decide to pass the resolution, then comes some very important dates for us. That really starts the clock of when we start notifying our residents. I know a lot of our residents know about this program. We've discussed it in public meetings before. It might come as a surprise to a lot of people, but We do have quite a bit of time to start noticing that they're going to see a bit of a difference on their Rocky Mountain Power billing. So the implementation date noticing begins November 2nd, 2026. And then the commencement date, as you'll see at the bottom, the difference between those implementation and commencement date estimated to begin January 1st, 2027. So we basically have five months after June to start that process of letting our folks know that we have passed the ordinance, we are participating in this program, here's what to expect. SO WHEN THE PROGRAM COMMENCES, WHICH IS WHEN THE RATE COLLECTION ACTUALLY BEGINS, I.E., YOU'LL SEE A NEW LINE ITEM ON YOUR ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER BILL. AND FROM THAT POINT, YOU HAVE You have 60 days to drop out of the program if you choose. We've also extended that period an additional four months. So we have a total of six months for folks to A, notice there's a new charge on their bill. Hopefully we've done our part to communicate to them that that is coming. And then they have six months from that point to essentially drop out of the program with no cancellation fee. If you remember, those of us veterans of the council remember that that initial cancellation period was just 60 days. And then we negotiated them up to three months and ultimately we landed at six months of no fee cancellation period. Here's the information that most of us will want to share with our residents. The eligible residential customers, $4 per month is the initial proposed charge. That includes $3.88 monthly program participation fee, and then a $0.12 monthly surcharge for the low income program. You'll see on the right there, the low income program, again, very key to the success of this program. We don't want people to not participate just because they don't have an additional $4 a month to put towards their bills. So that will be subsidized by the $4 per month fee at the rate of 12 cents per residential customer. The qualifying low income residential customers, again, will pay $0 per month. They'll see a bill credit on their Rocky Mountain Power bill each month. So in case it does come up, you'll see that it says eligible residential customers. You might ask, who isn't eligible? If you have a Rocky Mountain Power Bill, shouldn't you be eligible? Yes and no. The only exception to that are folks that are on Schedule 135, which deals with rooftop solar. If any of you up here or anyone behind me is a schedule 135, you are not eligible to participate, but congratulations, you're doing your part. You have rooftop solar. Good work. Moving on, this is the low income, again, this is the bulk of what I think we need to start communicating with our folks. You may have seen, I did a teaser on social media just getting people to look into whether or not they already, without this program going into effect, to see if they already are eligible for utility bill assistance through Rocky Mountain Power. So one of the ways to qualify for the low income plan is to A, be a Rocky Mountain Power customer, B, live in a participating community, and C, have a household income at or below the 150% of the federal poverty level. So two ways of determining that. If you're already on one of these programs, you don't have to do anything else. You will just see the bill credit on your bill. If you fall into this category but are not currently enrolled in the HEAT or HELP program. It's a pretty simple process to, simple for the government anyway, a simple process to apply and be approved for that program. And then at that point, those folks will also see that credit on their bill as well. So the two things to know about the low income plan, again, participate for free through a monthly bill credit. But also, you can opt out any time, six months, six years, 60 years from now with no termination fee. Doesn't seem to be a lot of real good reason to charge a $30 fee for someone to cancel if they're already receiving low income assistance. It is important to know that the non-residential rate is calculated a bit differently. Non-residential customers, i.e. businesses, they are charged for this program at a volumetric rate. And you'll see that 0.00609 per kilowatt hour used per month plus that same 12 cent monthly surcharge for the low income program will be applied to non-residential users. And again, that monthly cost really depends on the amount of electricity that is used by that particular business. You'll see an example scenario. Medium office building in Summit County used 6,880 kilowatt hours in May 2025 without this program. Their bill was $847 for the month with the program. Their bill would be $889, which is approximately a 5% increase on the non-residential rate for that particular office building. That will be very different for businesses in Midvale. We have recommended folks, and we'll get this out as well if we do, adopt the ordinance and choose to participate. Just a very simple here's how to calculate what you can expect your average bill to be and it's really a simple math problem of multiplying your current or looking at your current bill and looking at your per kilowatt rate now and then just multiplying that same usage by the new 609 kilowatt hour. Any questions so far? About 20 more slides and I swear I'm out of here. No, I'm joking. Not that many to go. Any questions? No. Okay. Program rates long term. So, like all utility rates, these could go up. The likelihood is that they will not. In fact, the Public Service Commission order states the following. I won't read all that, but I will read what's highlighted in bold. No evidence in the record suggests that the program rates are likely to meaningfully increase from the initial rates approved in this order. Instead, under Rocky Mountain Power's proposal, they would decrease rather significantly after the first two years. So one of the, you know, I don't know if it's a catch-22 or not, but those who choose to to not participate in the program. We're gonna choose to not participate at a rate that is higher than what the rate will likely be in the future. So that's definitely a shame. There's something for the board to work on as far as like how to get those folks back into the program if they so choose. Right now there's not a really good method laid out for people who opt out to opt back in. but that's something I do plan to work on as a board member. The opt-out program, this is just a different way of saying what I've already said. The noticing period begins, no fee cancellation period begins once we notice that to the public. And the method of doing that, very simple. This was set into motion by the legislature, this legislative session, and they want us to mail all of our customers two separate notices that talk about this program and the rate increase. I'm actually skipping ahead to my next slide. Sorry, I got ahead of myself. But yeah, this we've already talked about. Customers can opt out any time. If it's during the cancellation period, there's no fee. If it's after, $30 termination fee for residential customers. One of my most recent ideas is talking to board members and asking them what they think about removing that $30 termination fee altogether for all time. I see value in that because I don't think $30 is not going to keep someone in the program if they don't want to be in it. And it's also a relatively small number for the board. And I don't even, no one has been able to tell me where's that $30 go. You know, if we get $30, does it go back into the program? That's, in my math, about seven months of participation in the program. So I think we could do a lot of good by removing that termination fee and just removing that narrative of like, oh, just another way to collect money from me if I cancel it. And again, I don't think, if you don't want to be in the program and all that's keeping you in it is a $30 termination fee, I think that's few and far between. So that's something we will discuss in the future as well in the board. Okay, and the ordinance details. With this ordinance, so with an affirmative vote of our council, we will opt into the program. All eligible Rocky Mountain Power customers in our community will have the choice whether to stay in the program or opt out. Communities that adopt the program are responsible for, and some of these things we've already done, entering it into a utility agreement, check. Reimbursing Rocky Mountain Power for the cost of providing two notices to all customers, estimating that that's going to cost $24,000. Looking over at Mariah, we plan to use one-time expenditure funds from our fund balance to pay for this. And the state legislature has made it so that we can't sneak that into their words, not mine, into a regular bill. It has to be a very separate mailing with nothing else attached to it but this notification. We are also responsible to contributing funds to pay for third party consultants used by the Office of Consumer Services and Division of Public Utilities to evaluate the program. Done. Check. We did that already. That's what the first two payments went to cover. And then I did not word this this way, but it is a double negative. We are responsible for no other, well it's not a double negative, it's just bad grammar. So we are responsible for no other costs associated with the program. So if someone doesn't pay the termination fee, that doesn't come back to the community. That's a Rocky Mountain Power Collections, one of their actions. We do not get hit at the end of the year. You have 20,000 people. Oh my gosh, I shouldn't even put that into the universe. But we don't get hit with any of those termination fees that aren't paid. Just a real brief policy analysis. One, some of this is my opinion, but working to support clean energy I feel very much aligns with Midvale City's mission of promoting the health, safety, and welfare of our community and those who live in our community. As part of Rocky Mountain Power Service Territory, Midvale City's options for supporting clean energy are currently limited. I don't know if you remember when I was a council member, I said, hey, I participate in the Blue Sky Program and I'm happy with that. The Blue Sky Program is good for what it's worth, but this is... Basically, Blue Sky Plus definitely does a lot more when you can put 19 communities together, economies of scale. You can do larger scale clean energy programs with that than, you know, my measly $1.90 extra on my Rocky Mountain Power bill. The community clean energy program has been designed to provide a new choice for all homes and businesses to choose clean energy by supporting the development at scale as I mentioned. It also creates a pathway for communities to come together and I think this is very important. This is one thing that I did not anticipate of being so rewarding being on the board. We have communities from every corner of Utah participating in this program and when you can get a coalition of cities as diverse as Park City, Salt Lake City, and Matt knows where I'm going to say next, the city of Colville. If you can get people in all of those communities working together on a clean energy program solution, I think that says something about the appetite for this program in not just Midvale, Utah, but all over the state. So in my opinion, it may be yours, this program is Midvale's best choice for making clean energy available to the entire community. If we do not adopt the ordinance, our residents and business owners will not be able to participate in the program now or in the future. Real quick summary, next steps. So if we choose to enact it, again, our community will be automatically opted in to the program with, again, the six months opt-out period, termination fee-free period. We will have this, again, back what day for a vote, anyone? June 2nd. June 2nd, yeah. For formal adoption or rejection, that is an option. So again, if we adopt the ordinance, we bring this program to our community, we continue to be a part of the URC board, and we get a seat at the table to collaborate with Rocky Mountain Power in how to operate and launch the program successfully, and to be a part of its success in the future. If we do not adopt the ordinance, it will not be an option for the community. We are making a decision for our community in that instance that they will not be a part of this program. They will not have this option to choose clean energy through the Rocky Mountain Power Bill and I will not be on the URC Board effective June 2nd if we reject the resolution. So, are there any questions?

1:47:15 – 1:47:278

I have a couple of questions. Yes. That $4, if there are many other cities that choose not to participate in this, does that go up or is that set regardless of what happens June 2nd?

1:47:27 – 1:48:1212

No, so yeah, so the $4 is set by the order from the Public Service Commission. So that will not go up. The only thing, and it might be the next question of yours, what happens with the program if not many cities adopt it? If that's not one of your questions, but so even if, We're all paying $4 and 10 communities of the 19 choose to enact it. It really just impacts the scale of the projects that we can put that money into. It shouldn't necessarily affect how quickly we, Midvale City, can get to the 100% renewable. It will just make the grand scale. So think of instead of three football fields of solar, we can do one and a half.

1:48:14 – 1:48:328

Thank you. My other question is, and I don't know. I know that if we don't adopt it on June 2nd, we can't get in at all anymore. And that goes for every other city in Utah. So if this program is working well, at no point can anybody else

1:48:33 – 1:49:1712

Yeah, and that's been a big, I think everyone on the board right now is so focused on let's get, like this is a, the legislature passed a bill that dictates how this goes. So right now that bill says there are no, no more communities can join. That's not to say if this is wildly successful that they again, as they did, you know, 2019 was the deadline where they said no more. And then they reopened that two years later and said, J.K., Come join again if you want. So they could do that. My guess is if the program is wildly successful, they will do that. But there's no guarantee, of course. Any other questions?

1:49:17 – 1:49:466

I don't really have any questions. I just wanted to say that for me, I thank you for bringing this to us. For a small city, we don't have a lot of options that we can offer. And as a lot of people know up here, Utah's facing some pretty dire ecological forecasts. And this is a tool that we can offer. As long as it remains affordable and accessible, like we've stressed from day one, I think these are things that we as a city really need to consider providing with the limited resources we have. So I just wanted to say thank you. And I know you're advocating for it. And I really appreciate that.

1:49:47 – 1:50:417

Thank you. Mayor, you know how I feel. I want clean energy, okay? What I dislike is the opt out instead of the opt in. That bothers me really a lot. But I do appreciate them going to six months to have that opportunity. That gives people more time to figure out what they really want to do. It should be a choice. If it's opt out, to me that's not a good a choice as if I, if you have such a good program, I should want to opt in. The other problem I see is they have no idea how many people are going to opt out of this thing, okay? Yeah. So that's a concern to me is if enough people opt out, what's going to happen to the program?

1:50:41 – 1:51:1112

Yeah. Valid points, and I know the opt-in, opt-out was definitely the most controversial part of this resolution. In fact, Kearns, that was the main reason why they decided not to participate, and hearing from Cottonwood Heights council members, that's their concern as well. So again, it's kind of, to Council Member Billings' point, what happens if a bunch of cities don't Don't opt into it.

1:51:127

So just a bunch of cities. This could be If they got a 50% opt-out through out the whole program.

1:51:19 – 1:51:3212

Yeah But again, that would that would not Reduce the effectiveness of the program. It would just reduce the scale of what we can put and I'm glad that's the case Yeah, I am concerned that

1:51:35 – 1:51:557

And you said that the $4 is not going to go up. So to me, that's great. I was afraid all of a sudden you get all these people opting out. It's 25 or something, yeah. You get all of the people opting out, and then all of a sudden there's not enough money to run the program, and we're through.

1:51:55 – 1:52:2212

Yeah, that's the good thing. It's kind of baked into the program that the program is what – the dollars that come in is what the program is. So, again, we would want, ideally, 100% of Midvale residents to participate. That's not gonna happen. But, so if 75%, that means we can do 75% of the project that we could have done with 100%.

1:52:23 – 1:52:357

And that does help. Yeah. The other concern I have is We've got apartments everywhere and you've got people moving in and out all the time. How is this even going to work?

1:52:35 – 1:53:5612

So I did send a document, frequently asked questions for you guys. So that is detailed in there. So it goes to the person. So if I'm a renter who lives at San Moritz, I have my own power bill. So that would go with, and if I move to another apartment or whatever, the participation in the program goes with me. wherever I live. So that's that. If you have your own utility bill, it's your decision whether you rent or own or rent to own. The only issue is what happens to folks who their landlord or their property management company pays the utility bill for them, and then that decision shifts to that person. So if you're renting your house to a family and you want to be involved in that program, you can, but that $4 is going to go to your bill, which then that landlord or property management company could choose to pass along to the renter, but as long as you have, whoever owns the bill owns the decision to participate or not participate.

1:53:57 – 1:54:098

Along that line, if somebody's moving in to the community, they set up their power through Rocky Mountain, do they have a six-month opt-out period?

1:54:10 – 1:54:4012

Yes. Sorry, I did not. Great question. If you move into, say you live in Kearns, and they don't participate in the program and you move to Midvale who on June 2nd we might participate in the program. That clock starts again. So you have the ability to opt into the program and you have that grace period to drop out if you choose not to without a termination fee.

1:54:40 – 1:55:078

And then I know that we're doing, you know, we have to send those notices out to customers should we choose to do this. Is there an internal, I guess, through Midvale City, a big marketing plan to try to encourage people to stay involved in the program? Or has clean energy put that, or renewable energy put that together? All those kinds of things. Because I don't want to do this and then not, and then be like, okay, we're done. We don't have to do anything else if we want to encourage participation. Yeah.

1:55:07 – 1:55:5512

I think like any decision that is made by the council, yes, we have ideas in our head of what to do next, but we're certainly not going to start that process until the ordinance is decided whether we want to participate or not. We don't want to get people thinking, oh my God, this is coming to Midvale and then you guys shoot it down. So the answer, yeah, yeah, after June 2nd, that's kind of when, in fact, my, if it's passed, my July 2026 journal entry is going to be this, you know, what's coming to your Rocky Mountain Power Bill, essentially. So we'll certainly do more than that, you know, we're not just going to rely on the mayor's message in the journal, but yes. Go ahead.

1:55:55 – 1:57:422

I was going to say I got a lot of ‑‑ well, a few things. Thank you. I think you addressed most of the concerns I had. That $4 ceiling was my big worry. And Councilmember Billings' question about, you know, what happens, I think those are addressed. I got a lot of positive ‑‑ a lot of positive comments from residents, probably Unlike the scenario where Vanessa spoke, where I get a lot of negative comments, this is probably about the exact opposite. I don't think I have received a single negative one. And I'm trying to respond to everyone, because I always try to do that, but enough that I have not had time to respond to everyone, which I think is very interesting. But to me, this doesn't bear into my decision per se, but what's so hard about Midvale's space and Utah is I feel like we would do this and we'd have a huge option rate because we are a caring group, you know, whatever, right? In the same token, There'll be a 400 million acre data center that uses natural gas turbines that uses more gas and energy than anything in Utah already. So just like me and all my neighbors trying to water less and Zion's Banks watering a weed hill, You know, we're gonna hopefully maybe adopt this program, do our part, and it's a net negative because these big corporations just decide we don't care, right? And again, that shouldn't weigh into this. It's just really frustrating to see a community that's kind of politically small punching so high above their weight all the time. And so I hope some of the more affluent communities like Cottonwood Heights will learn from us humble Midvaleans.

1:57:45 – 1:58:3712

Yeah. Well, I wish I had my phone up here because Cottonwood Heights may have made a decision by now, so we'll see. But, you know, Mill Creek is debating it. There's no sense among anyone that Mill Creek Council is going to reject the program. So among the – and Holiday is another one. So Mill Creek, Holiday – and Cottonwood Heights, hopefully, will join the program and then we don't have to punch too high above our weight class. I did just want to note, because I've been up here thinking like, oh, is it a 60-day period to opt out if someone moves into an area? But no, it does say for sure that similar noticing and cancellation period exists. So I wanted to make sure I didn't give you incorrect info. Did I answer your?

1:58:392

Yeah, my last part was more just my righteous indignation.

1:58:45 – 1:59:444

And I want to say we have to keep fighting so that we can be the leader. Yeah, I agree. That's what we're doing. I'm not saying give up. I should make that clear. Just my comments. I've been in the blue sky for 10 years or however long it started. So I'm definitely for this. And I agree with you, like very few things get resident comments, usually taxes. And then this was second, that I've heard the most positive and responses. And I think if we're listening to our residents, I think the majority want us to participate. The opt in and opt out. I've been in marketing for 20 too long, and it doesn't matter if you opt in or opt out. It's all about communication. Yes, I did. I was three. But it's all about communication, right? It's getting them out there, educating them. Whether it's opt in or out, it's letting them know that it's happening. So I'm okay with whichever decision is there, but I think we should offer the choice to our residents. Thank you for taking the time to go through it.

1:59:45 – 2:00:2212

Absolutely. Sorry, I took more time than I thought. Councilman Glover asked a question at our workshop when we discussed this a few months ago about nuclear power, and I didn't have an answer for you then, but I do now. So technically, yes, nuclear power is a clean energy source. However... In discussing it with the board, nuclear power is also extremely expensive. So it would be very cost prohibitive for this program to use our resources for a nuclear power plant, for instance.

2:00:22 – 2:00:362

Destin, if Utah's bringing some in, or trying to, right? So the economies of scale introduce nuclear, or let's say a clean power source that hasn't been invented yet, can it adopt quickly?

2:00:3712

Yeah, I mean, it's...

2:00:382

Does that make sense?

2:00:4012

Yeah, it does. And, yeah, if in some future...

2:00:452

It could be short, though. It could be two or three years nuclear.

2:00:47 – 2:01:0912

Yeah, if in some future that nuclear power is not cost prohibitive, sure, money can go into that. I mean, I know I don't want to get into that debate because there are, you know, people who are very pro-nuclear power and people who are very anti-nuclear power, and it's like the political ideology horseshoe where... You never know where people are gonna stand on that. I don't know where I stand on that, but.

2:01:102

Yeah, so removing that, I just mean generally. Let's say the cost makes sense and.

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It is an available energy source under the definition of the program.

2:01:237

Thank you, Harold.

2:01:2412

Okay, no other questions? Okay, I will resume my normal seat.

2:01:297

Thank you. Excuse me.

2:01:43 – 2:01:5612

That was a Mariah-length presentation. Speaking of Mariah, our next discussion item, discussion of fiscal year 2027, property tax impact schedule. Mariah.

2:01:57 – 2:03:349

So just as a part of the new Truth in Taxation requirements, any time we have something budget-related on our agenda, we need to also show our impact schedule, our property tax impact schedule. So out of an abundance of caution, even though our only thing was the UPD, there is the word budget, so we are showing this. I have been in touch with the tax commission and I asked them if we needed to adopt this by resolution every time it changes and they said no we do not. So I will just be showing this and dating each one with the different information as it comes through. are having new information every day. This could be different right now than when I prepared it earlier on but the changes now reflecting the information we've gotten back on the homeless mitigation funding as well as the final or the tentative budget not quite yet adopted by UPD but they gave me those numbers that had a decrease in our increase from them. So, though the first impact schedule showed a 90.23% increase, this is at 50.7, down from about $60 for the average residential household to 34.16. So, this is a significant decrease and this will, like I said, continue to change. There is a second page where we have to note the impact if we don't get the property tax increase where we did have that earlier showing five officers It's down to two officers and our UFA contract having to be eliminated were we not to get the tax increase. So there it is. Any questions? You'll be seeing this at every meeting probably for the foreseeable future.

2:03:3412

Thank you, Mariah. If you take the average of her presentation and mine, pretty quick.

2:03:43 – 2:04:0612

We do have a closed session tonight. However... in the interest of getting Levi the heck out of here, I will recommend that we temporarily... Maybe he wants to stay as long as he wants. Do you want to temporarily recess our city council meeting and proceed to the redevelopment agency meeting? So moved.

2:04:08 – 2:04:2512

Okay. Motion and a second. Do we need a roll call for that? No. All those in favor say aye. Yes. Any opposed? Okay, we are magically reappearing to you as the redevelopment agency of Midvale City. Rory, will you call the roll?

2:04:265

Yes. Board member Glover? Here. Billings? Here. Michelush? Here. Brown?

2:04:3412

Present.

2:04:355

And Robinson? Here.

2:04:37 – 2:05:0512

Thank you, we are all here. Moving on to public comments. Any person wishing to comment on an item not otherwise scheduled for public hearing tonight may do so now. Step up to the microphone. You'll be given three minutes. The only member of the public is Sue Armitage. Do you have anything? Sue. Okay. Thank you. Moving on to the consent agenda, we have one item tonight. Let's consider the minutes of May 5th, 2026. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda?

2:05:057

May I move we approve the consent agenda? Second.

2:05:0812

Okay, motion and a second. Rory, we call the roll.

2:05:105

Yes, Board Member Brown.

2:05:1312

Yes. McClush.

2:05:145

Yes. Glover. Aye. Billings. Yes. And Robinson. Aye.

2:05:17 – 2:05:3912

Okay, that passes unanimously. Moving on, we have two action items tonight. First, consider resolution number 2026, 10 RDA, conveying 705 West Ivy Drive, Midvale, by special warranty deed to Midvale City. No, your eyes do not deceive you. This is what we discussed in the city council meeting. This is just the second part of it. Levi.

2:05:40 – 2:06:313

I do apologize. This will be the same, and the font is probably still... But I was going to spit balls and things, but I'm just going to go through it. So as you were, we're updating the Public Works campus. And to facilitate the parking lot, we need that north parcel that Wasatch Gardener owns. They found they don't need that property for their project. So they gave it to the RDA via a special warranty deed, I believe. And here's that property, right there north with the red arrows. This land's unusable, like I said, and the staff is asking the R&D board to approve transferring the land to the city via special warranty deed. Is there any questions?

2:06:3312

Any questions for Levi? Okay, we have a motion on the board and would require a suspension of the rules.

2:06:46 – 2:06:582

So we have to suspend the rules, you said? Oh, yeah. Okay. I move that we suspend the rules and approve resolution number 2026-10 RDA conveying property at 705 West Ivy Drive, Midvale by special warranty deed to Midvale City.

2:07:0012

Okay, we have a motion and a second. Rory, we call the ayes and ayes.

2:07:035

Yes. Board Member Glover.

2:07:055

Billings. Yes. Robinson. Aye. Brown.

2:07:085

And McAulish. Yes.

2:07:09 – 2:07:3112

Okay. That passes unanimously. Moving on. Second action item. Consider resolution number 202611 RDA. Approving proposed amendments and renewal of the Main Street Upper Floor Housing Initiative. And here to discuss this, of course, is Kate Andrus. Yeah. I'll do my best to channel Kate. Adam. Sorry. Change of moderator. Okay.

2:07:31 – 2:09:2811

Kate is enjoying a conference, so I am taking her place tonight, so I hope I can do it well. This is an item that you discussed at the last RDA board meeting a couple weeks ago. This is just some amendments and the renewal of the Upper Floor Housing Initiative. Just a brief recap, it was created in 2021. established to promote development of moderate income housing through the utilization of upper floors, whether it's existing buildings or new buildings along Main Street. The initial term had a five-year kind of period, and it needs to be renewed by June 30th of this year. As far as the amendments went, all of these were discussed at the last meeting. I'll just touch on one or two of them. One of them is that the initiative should align with the form-based code rather than the Main Street CDA because it is really for the form-based code area while the CDA itself extends beyond that to strictly commercial properties, especially to the north. Another one that we discussed was the term incentive to be used rather than forgivable loan or financial aid. And then also kind of Lengthening the affordability term from a period of 15 years to a period of at least 20 years or another agreed upon time frame based on the depth of affordability of the units. Those are just some I wanted to highlight. The impact of this would be $5 million to be spent over a period of five years. And again, if it is successful, staff may request additional funding at your approval. And then the affordable housing funds generated from the three project areas, which are Main Street, Bingham Junction, and Jordan Bluffs, are used to support this. And if there's no questions, there is a motion for your consideration. Okay, thank you, Adam.

2:09:2812

Any questions from council? Or from the board, I should say. Okay, the motion's up there.

2:09:366

Mayor, I move that we approve resolution number 2026-11 RDA, approving proposed amendments and renewal of the Main Street Upper Floor Housing Initiative. Second.

2:09:4612

OK. We have a motion and a second. Rory, we call the yeses and nos.

2:09:505

Yes. Board member Billings? Yes. Robinson? Yes. Brown?

2:09:565

McElhosh? Yes. And Glover?

2:09:58 – 2:10:1012

Aye. Okay, that passes unanimously. We don't have a closed session for the RDA, so if there's a motion to adjourn and reassemble in our city council meeting?

2:10:107

Motion to adjourn and reassemble in our council meeting.

2:10:1512

Okay, motion and second. All those in favor say aye.

2:10:18 – 2:10:4412

Any opposed? Okay, we are just as magically back as the Midvale City Council. We do have a closed session tonight, and that will be letter C, strategy sessions to discuss the purchase, exchange, or lease of real property. Is there a motion to enter a closed session? And state the reason. If not, we can go home.

2:10:476

May I move that we enter closed session for the discussion? Hold on.

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