About this meeting
- Government Body
- Weston Forest Committee
- Meeting Type
- Weston Forest Committee
- Location
- Middleborough, MA
- Meeting Date
- May 5, 2026
Transcript
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Calling to order the meeting of the Western Forest Committee at the small meeting room at the town hall. The time is 05:01. May 5. 05/05/2026. K. Motion to call the water.
You don't need to motion.
I just need to try something that'll I don't call a lot of motions or at least a lot for them. Alright. So we have Amy Hathaway here and his dad. What's mister Hathaway? Or
Yes. Mister
Hathaway it is. Or Mike. Either one. Mike. Okay. Mike. Alright. So, Aidan, are you gonna take the floor? Do you need any preemptive for it? Are you gonna go over what your Eagle Scout
project's gonna be.
What is this gonna be?
Or Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. The committee is Joe Mandeal, Jerry Boysenall, Don at fifteen.
So you present my ban for in my Eagle Scout project. It would essentially be making the Purchase Street side of the Weston Memorial Forest easier to navigate. I did a walkthrough with mister Devine on Sunday, and there
was quite a few intersections that were very hard to navigate with you having to look at
multiple different trees to figure out where you're going. Some sometimes there were trees that just weren't there that should have been there and markers that just fell off. So my plan was to, on the more confusing sections, to place physical signs into the ground with directions and replace the brittle plastic mark trail markers with painted on markers that will be able to grow with the trees and would last quite a bit longer as well as kind of just cleaning up any trash and debris that's on the ground. That's essentially it. I think.
Mhmm.
So when you were out there with Bart, you guys discussed, obviously. So what what will be the material that you'd using for the markers?
For making the markers on the trees, probably just be to paint them on. So you just actually paint
them right on the side of the tree. Got it?
Just a use of stencil? Probably. Yeah. Just spray it on? Yeah. Who's do you have anybody in mind to make the signs?
I I'm in machine shop at school, so I can I'm able to make the signs myself.
And what would the signs say? Where would
the signs be?
It would be one at some of the splits, it
would The confusing places? Yeah. Yeah.
It'd be like this trail that way, this Yeah. Trail that
Yeah. So the way they merge probably
Yeah. Or less. Yeah. Yeah. And so you'd be putting these signs in the ground Yes. Or post? Yes.
Have you have you been to other places where you could see signs like that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I I do a lot of trail work and and Yeah. It's very helpful when there's a sign there. Yeah. If you never been on it before. Yeah.
Definitely. So
maybe just a thought. Distance so we had talked about to the parking lot. Maybe a measured distance point five miles to the parking lot, for example, maybe a possibility.
Mhmm. Could
it Oh, yeah. It might be something
that Yeah.
You could probably fit.
One of those wheels to actually get a failure. Right. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Right. I
Be color coding them to the map that we have already. Right? Yeah. Yeah. We did you have a copy of the map, or
do you need one? I have it on my computer.
Okay. Well, I I gave you one
as well.
Yeah. Okay.
I don't have it on
me right now. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Just that you know what it's supposed to look like.
Yeah. So how are you planning on determining which one of these areas you're gonna put a sign in? Are you gonna you plan on doing that, or have you already figured that out, or you're gonna walk through with some of us and and game plan it? What was your thought process there? Let's see.
Our plan was for for the first place for the sign would be with the very first split off where there's and currently, there's no sign. There's just a tree that has, like, 10 markers on it. So just to put one right there saying, like, like, yellow and left trails both yellow and red trails that way, blue and red trails that way. And then I believe where the where the blue and red trails move further up to put one layers to consolidate directions from three trees to just one side.
And that's in the big area where the picnic table is there? Is that what you're talking about? Because they kinda join together right there.
Yeah. That that would be another place to do them too.
Yeah. So you're gonna walk all three trails?
Yeah.
Okay.
So you're talking about the blue and the red?
Yeah. So, like Okay. Yeah. Because I noticed right there, there's
Okay.
There's, like, three different trees you gotta look at for the directions. Right. So instead just have one thing.
So this would be one spot. Right? Yeah. Because there's two trails. Yeah. I don't know about that. Does this meet the batch? Do you think?
I'm sure. Believe it does.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then certainly here Yeah. Here and here. Yeah. So there'll be, like, five signs. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Mhmm. Okay. Yeah.
Then I I believe he said along with that, with the signage, would have glazes on the trees. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Yes. When are you thinking about doing it, Hayden?
I think most of the, like, planning and stuff would probably be sometime over the summer and try to get it done in the fall when it's not as hot. Yeah. And the trees are oozing.
Just look at more. Yeah.
So we I like the I like the distances on the sides. That's what we've talked about before where I think that is excellent especially for somebody that's new out there, somebody that may not have all the faculties or have little kids and they want to know when they're gonna get up. But now you what would you thought? You gotta have from the beginning all the way to the back end or where there's another where where your intersection is or both? And and I'm not trying to complicate it, but, know, some of the the trails, they kinda just like with each other. You can go up this and then come back this way or you can take the widest route all the way around the back. Did you think that? Did you think about that? Because it could get a little bit confusing on the signs, but I do want to have markers on top distances on them. Okay. About that? That be a good
thing to add to it, add to the signs.
So one thing we could do is if say you are gonna just be matching up with another colored trail, just an idea, you know, so when you go to the far right you can come right back this way, put the distances in the color of the trail that you're going to be maybe linking back up with and then on that one you go to the next marker it'll then give you a color code 0.5, 0.3, 0.9 to the if you got to go to the yellow or so, you know, maybe a little confusing but if everything's color coded, I think people will pick up on it.
Yeah. So I I've measured out the distances for the each loop. We have that data somewhere and we're supposed to update the kiosk.
I see.
I would think that a a total per loop.
Yes. Yep.
But then things like when you get out to to his signage.
think going out to his signage would be key things. Okay. You're you're this far. If you go this way, the the parking lot is that way. X amount, miles. Yeah. Point whatever. Parking If you go this way, it's this many miles or whatever whatever the fraction I
don't think it It's a
page or an arch of that.
I think it should be just a thought, and again it's your project. Yeah. We're just trying to help you out. Yeah. We don't wanna complicate things. But I We can we can post, and and I have the mileage for each trail. So the blue trail, the red trail, and the yellow trail.
And the blue trail will
be done.
So they they all start right here.
Right. Yeah.
Right at
the parking. Mhmm. Right?
So there'd be three mileages then. Right?
On the kiosk. Yeah. And then at each intersection. So there would be as as Eden had said
Mhmm.
There'd be a sign here with
Yellow. Yeah.
Yellow and red pointing that way, red and blue pointing that
way.
Got it. Okay.
Don't know if there would be one there, maybe there wouldn't, but down here it gets kinda tricky. Right? Yeah. This is one of the spots where we were we were looking around when we were on the on the side of the ridge. Yeah. It's like you know, 15 feet in and not at eye level. Mhmm. Gets kind of confusing if you don't know if you don't
know where you are at. Yeah. And that's that's what I was speaking to in is what Bart's bringing up is so when we have so obviously
you know the blue can go all
the way around, the red comes right back, the yellow goes all the around but if somebody decides to come up here in the blue and then cut back, so it may be too convoluted on the sign, too convoluted to have it all of a sudden they come back here if you wanna go back, if you wanna bail out. You know, just say for whatever reason you're here in the blue and you were feeling good now you have the kids or what have you and you wanna bail out, how far back is it from here or how far is it? Just so people have an idea, like a running total of where they are and how far they got left to go. Yeah.
I do like like you just showed on that how far it is to parking in case you're tired.
Yeah. Any reason that you wanna get back to the to the parking lot. Any reason you're tired, you hurt yourself. Yeah. Once the know, and especially the people we most of us know what that what it's like. We know exactly how far we're gonna be going, but we want to encourage people to go out there. We don't want them to have any impediment that I don't know or my child's only four. Can he can he or she make it? It's nice to know that you have a bailout point. Yeah. You know? And how far it is to get back home or to safety. You know? Right. It could be like a quarter mile. And, you know, like, I don't know how much further it is. I'm just gonna go all the way back to where
it is.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Right. And now you gotta go a mile and a half.
Yeah. Right.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would be a big service to the forest. Big town.
Yeah. Covering.
And as you've noticed, it hasn't really been maintained either. Yeah.
You know? So
do you have a crew that would you'd be doing this with, or how does that work?
My crew would be the main source of
How many people are in that, roughly?
I don't know the number. Think last I knew, we had, I think, five or six. But Yeah. Last Wednesday, we got quite a few more new Oh, great. The
troop. Yeah.
So and I was unable to be
there. So
So he can also have other volunteers I see. Can come along. So he he's the project manager Yeah. And he he takes care of he gets the funding, he gets the the planning Yeah. He he puts everything together and then orchestrates it, and he has his team do the actual labor.
I see. So Yeah.
Do have another question. You said you're gonna mount the signs in the ground? Mhmm. The posts in the ground? Yeah. Do you know what they're gonna be? The four by fours or and are you gonna hand pack them or are gonna put concrete in them?
Probably just hand pack
Hand pack them? So you're gonna use a post hole digger to put them in? Yeah. Okay.
Just to simplify it.
Yeah. I think So he
another thing is he can't use power tools or the scouts under under 18. The ball into the workers that are under the age of 18 per BSA can't k. BSA scouts. BSA cannot they can't use power tools. Everything has to
be hand.
Well, the way he's gonna do it is that's mean, it's just like putting a fence in. So Yep. We have nothing now, so it's obviously, this is great. Right.
Awesome. So I like it. As far as getting the funds, how do you
go about getting the funds?
Probably do a metal drive at some point.
Okay.
Probably over the summer.
Like, scrap
metal, you need? Yeah. I'll I'll give you my my my number because I get a lot of scrap metal. Yeah. Yeah.
I have a lot of scrap metal in my house.
Okay. Well, I can give you more if you need it. Okay. No. It's always good because the scouts use it for all their trips and stuff. Do you? Okay. Yeah. For the some of the kids whose parents can't afford things. We tried to fund all of our stuff through, like, metal drives. Yeah. That pays for a lot of their scouting trips and outings. It's good to know. And so we can offset some of those scout camps that they go to during the summer. What do
think this year, because of the amount of scout people have,
we were able to make
it so that no one has to pay to go to the scout camp this year. So Oh, that's awesome. All the troops covering everything. Wow. Cool.
Now where do you have these? Because I've never seen one before.
Usually, it's a big part is our our scout master kinda he's an electrician, so sometimes we kinda just go around collecting a bunch of copper pipes and, like, AC units. And every couple months, we'll go to his house and just kinda tear everything apart into, like
Do you have to strip the copper and all that too?
Yeah. Take all the copper out, separate it into copper with solder on it, clean copper
Yep.
All the brass and stuff, all the, like, fixtures and everything, and then take that to full level in a second lien and get money for it.
Right.
What would the next step be? Kind of a plan of where all these signs are gonna be Yeah. You think that you come back to us with that sort of, like, schematic of some sort or wondering.
Yeah. No. Good question. I think it makes sense. Yeah. And that way, if you have any other ideas, you can chime in. And,
Bart, you'll be the contact for this?
If everybody's agreeing
on that. Yep. Absolutely.
It certainly is a needed project.
Yep. And it's great because we we were taking that around about signs and distances and and again, just to make it seem much more of a, you know, equitable forest for all. And we don't wanna give any reason not to take the take the plunge. They know exactly how far they're gonna walk.
Yeah. Yeah. One more question, Mark, for you. Is there a standardized consensus way of marking trails?
There's different ones, and and and Aiden and I talked about that a little bit. He's gonna research
Okay.
What what seems to fit best.
Alright. So we can
report about that. There's like, Appalachian Mountain Club uses a certain convention. Other trails use a different, you know. But Yeah. There there's there's a bunch out there. And not to say that it has to be something that somebody else is already using. You may come up with something that works.
So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Another question, Aiden. So on the sides, I'm assuming your post in an angled board or flat like this? That'd be
a decision we would have to come to.
Right. Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah. And would you be thinking of how would you be marking the the wood? Would you be plexiglass on top of it? Would you be routing it in? Would you how would how would you think you'd be putting in the
Information Yeah. Wise? I'd probably either route it in, or we have a laser engraver on the shop so I could also engrave it that way too. Okay.
Okay.
Can you get credit for school for this project? Can you double dip on that?
I believe so. Yes. I don't
want this music.
That'd be a nice way to do it.
Yeah. My although my school doesn't require community service.
It does?
Doesn't.
Does it? I
don't know if that's basically what he's talking about, something like that, with signage then.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Wait. Is that the angle? I like This one is no. This one may cap. That angle. Okay. Paint
the trails.
Yeah. Maybe show it to
him and see what
he Well, it's okay. It usually You wanna look at that? Shows into the That's just another idea.
Right. Yeah.
If Pratt Pratt Farm has something like that. Yeah. What? Like the in
the Yeah.
That was one idea. Betty's neck has signs all
around it and Little water sheds off.
Some good ideas out of him.
Yeah. And then the markers are posted.
Yeah. Posted itself. Yeah. Like a
one Just just a thought, something to look at and get Yeah. You know, get your mind thinking about.
The favorite picture in the
ground was from Westport.
There are the good thing about this is you get to doing your research, get to go hike around a bunch of places. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Different places do it like
valleys. Yeah. Yeah.
The top is angled so that long sheds.
Wrought out like yeah.
Yeah. Oh, even you
can even do just a a 45 back whatever that just
sheds it off.
I don't think I
thought I had this.
Aiden, you have any questions for us? Not really. No. Okay. No statute of limitation on questions. So whenever you have Yeah. Yeah. Don't be afraid of asking.
A contact. Correct.
So what's our next steps? Mhmm. Wait
for our next
Yeah.
He's gonna he's gonna develop his stuff. At what point do you need a signature from somebody here? Probably Mac. Mac is the the chairman.
So Probably probably wipe a flight, get it like, send it in to counsel to get it
approved. Okay.
So, obviously, we'll see that first. Yeah. We'll vote on it. Mhmm. And then we'll try to turn around and get it back to you and sign whatever you need. Mhmm.
Yeah. So we have probably one more meeting this summer. So I'm assuming it would be.
What when is that again? One
One more meeting. Yeah. Yep.
So I'm just so Aiden will know what That's when is that?
Yeah. That that is the next item of our agenda. So we have a two side. It'd be usually the first or second Tuesday in June. So we haven't we haven't gotten there yet. I don't know if we wanna talk about it.
We should previous meetings so we can go right to schedule a date and time for Yeah. Yeah. Do wanna
do that? Think that we don't wanna put any pressure on him and Yes. Put him hold put constraints on him. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that we can probably make ourselves available
Right. That's true.
At some point down the road when Yes. When Right. You are ready.
Yeah. Mhmm.
If I I might say that.
I think that way Yeah. We'll just call a particular meeting for
that. He's got a lot a lot ahead of him. Yeah. So
And that's a pretty quick turnaround, really, just a month from now.
So Right. Yeah. So we don't wanna
I agree. Yeah. So we will go with what you say of when you wanna present it again to us for a signature. Mhmm. Yeah. And we'll convene we only need how many people would we need to be here? Five? Five.
Five. Yeah. Okay. Sounds good to me. Yeah, Aiden. Good luck to you.
Yeah. Thank you for coming here.
Thank you. Or just we could probably vote now and then Vote. That we wanna go over this project. I don't
But we have to also vote again on what he's actually bringing to us? I don't Like that's what we wanna go with?
I mean, do we wanna do that? I mean, I'm thinking we wanna we we want him to do the project. So if we vote Yes. Yes. Then that clears him. And he just needs a signature
Yep.
As from the from the beneficiary, which would be Mac. Okay.
Alright. Well, okay.
I'm just suggest I'm just suggesting that to streamline it because One
contingency because he won't be doing any work for us. We we we're gonna wanna see what what the game plan is before we so yeah. So if we wanna break it up that way so we can get started and he knows that we're because I think it's a good project. Yeah. We just have to see what your final game plan is. Right. Well You know?
I I think we should what we need to see is the final
what what the
perceived end result would be, not the nuts and bolts
No. About it. Sort of the know? Not the game plan. We haven't played the game
yet, but Right. Right. But I mean, just the the the I I think we're approving of the concept.
Right.
Yep. And then the finite details is what he does, and the end result is it's gonna look like this.
Mhmm. Yep.
So I think I would think that next step for us to come back to us or come back to the people that would be the what a what it should look like versus You wanna make a motion, Bart? Getting everybody
Approved to go forward with this?
Well, do we wanna discuss it a little bit more? I mean
Well, you can make a motion in a second and then have discussion afterwards, but
So I make a motion that we go ahead with it. And and then when it comes to signature time, MAC we authorize MAC to sign on behalf. Of the board. Of the board.
I just I second the motion.
You just have a question on that. So it's not the nuts and bolts of it we're agreeing to right now. It's simply going forward with that particular project. Correct?
Right. Going forward with the project. And and I I don't think we need to know the specific nuts and bolts. Okay. That this is gonna be at a 45 degree
No. I know.
Yeah. Well, I kinda think we do need to know what Well what it's gonna look
like. Not at this Well,
I don't know to say it's small. But it's something so we'll put when Aiden comes back with with his vision
yeah and
then he presents us his vision and then we will we'll
discuss it
we'll discuss it then
right
right so yeah right
that's that answers my question
alright so we have a motion and it's been seconded all in favor aye
aye aye well
ayes have it. You got a project. You got a project, Aiden.
Thank you. Shout out the quantities, the locations, and all that stuff. Yeah.
Nice reaching him. Yeah. Nice meeting And
that may be something we can just do through email.
Yeah. True.
Yeah. Right? He can send a a summary. Okay. But Possibly. Yeah. Pages. Yeah. Just a yeah. A little a little presentation.
Yeah. Yeah.
And the map is online. Right? He's gonna
want you
to Yep.
Yep. Yep. He wants to have a digital copy so he can use Yep.
No. Yeah. But I do have
to put it on my computer. Alright. So check
that out.
Yeah. Alright.
Thank you. Thank you.
I like Thanks, guys. Like your laptop cover there, your your drill index. Yeah. That's swollen. You have millimeters on that too?
There is. Yeah. Nice. I think it's on the back. Yeah.
Awesome.
Thanks, guys. Thanks for the time. Yeah. Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
You both.
Thank you. Have a great rest of your day.
You too. Thanks for coming
in. Cool.
Okay. That's great. Let's vote to approve the meeting previous meeting, Tuesday, 04/07/2026. I didn't see
any issues. I make a motion to approve the meeting. Second.
All in favor, approve approve. Aye. Aye. Alright. Four, I assume we just gotta wait until we hear back from Hayden because or do we wanna plan for June now and then maybe have a special meeting just for Hayden to come back? Or you wanna try to combine them?
Well, I don't well, I thought we weren't gonna put any pressure on him.
No. But we could
still we could still go through with our regular meeting.
Yeah. Okay. Right. Well, I just didn't know if maybe two months, but that's fine with me. That's why I
was asking.
Yeah. Alright. I think as long as we have business, and we probably do
Alright.
Just some unsettled things. So I don't know if I'm available the first Tuesday in June. I don't know what everyone else's schedule is. Looking like Let's see here. Is the first Tuesday the second?
Correct? Yes. The second. I'm open that day. I mean, I
Is everyone open the ninth too or no?
No. Okay.
Let's do the second, sir.
I got a board meeting that day.
Second works for me.
Okay. Not works for me.
Alright. So it's gonna be June '26 at five.
It'd be the day after the big 05:00.
That's right.
Still oh, the day
after. Yeah.
The day after the town.
Town meeting. Yeah. Oh, so so I'm gonna be tired. Yeah. But you're you guys two
can't make it on the ninth. Right?
So 05:00.
Five. Yeah. Mhmm.
Alright. Let me get that. Give me second. Six. Okay. So item five, committee membership roster terms. Further discussion about implementation. I know we had a little bit of discussion last time on whether or not we should be staggering, how we should be staggering. Is anybody is that marinated with anybody? Has anybody had a different thought process since Yeah.
I think you should be rolling them. Have a couple come
up Mhmm.
Every few years. That way, they don't all come up at once.
That's my that's my belief too.
I think Yeah. Sue's idea of always being in June. That way, we can just review who
Oh, as far as the dates. Yeah.
A good one. But June Mars. Yeah. We should have every every year there should be
So what I'm not clear on is how we're changing that now, and do we need
that Yeah. Select board. Yeah. And then I from what I understand, it's it's just a more, you know, mere formality. Right. And the only thing I think we're gonna have is we discussed the last time a little bit, but I left my notebook at my house.
Oh, yeah. So I don't
have it written down, but I know there's some discussion as how we were gonna start to implement this. Right. And I know we came up with a game plan. Yeah. We did. Yeah. So I don't have that in front of me, but if
I don't have it with me either, but I have it I have it at home. I'll send it I'll send it to you.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if if that sounds good, that game plan that we came up with, then I will send it over to to be on the agenda. Yeah. Right. You know, we'll probably give it a couple weeks to get by town hall meeting, I would say. Yes. Don't put Yeah. No. Put anything on there now. So I'll wait to have the town hall meeting. Yeah. Alright.
In fact, we probably we probably could discuss it on the second too. Right?
Yep. Yeah. Definitely. Well, we'll consider all up on the second. Why
don't we just do it on the second? Because Sue will be here then. You know, we can all agree on it. Yeah. And
It'd be after town meeting.
Yeah. And we're gonna need your term expires July June 30 this year. Correct?
That's right.
Yeah. So you you might be one on the staggered I don't know. We had it
all He would he would automatically go to three years.
Three. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was I I know. I didn't write it down as it turned out either, but we'll just table that to the next meeting. Yep. And if you wanna send it to me, I'll
Yeah. I I have it all with the term expiration dates
I have. Yeah.
Yeah. Good.
Well, I'll send that to everyone and then ask that this could be accepted for the town meeting for a future select meeting. Yeah. After the meeting.
Any more discussion on that? Are we good?
I'm I'm in agreement.
Okay. I'm good. Old business. Forced contact email status. Okay. So while you did the work, I got reached out to today. Maureen, I believe her name is. Yep. Maureen. Right. Yeah. And so I have a meeting with her tomorrow to go over the implementation of that. And so that's pretty much the Maureen again? IT department. Yep. So unless I get something with work, I'll be done with that tomorrow. So alright.
And we are also on a group one too. So Yep. When something comes up for the whole committee, we'll get it. We just can't reply to it or
Okay.
Or do anything with it.
Well, that's good.
Just a notification. Yeah.
So there's already an email in place or yeah. Okay. Got it.
Two on the old business. Mission statement. Donna will bring in any related content the committee had previously developed which have been reviewed and approved by the select board, I. E. Forest brochure, stewardship plan, DCI grant proposal, etcetera. The group is referring select board minutes from two thousand and one four direction. What I was hoping to do is to get in here early enough to go through our paperwork to see if we had any more follow-up paperwork from past meetings after that 2001 SB BS select board.
So I did go through that.
Oh, you did?
Yeah. What I could find. So the actually well, there's a will. So that's where
it kind of all started. Yeah. Did you guys all get the email I forwarded over Yeah. From Pablo? I have
it here. The 2001, you mean? Yep.
Yeah. I
have that right here. It's not very directive in terms of anything, but
What are the the the minutes from
The 2000. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so Bart had a good idea about that, if you wanna explain that part.
So some background. So the committee was in existence prior to 2001. Don has found minutes from 1977, 1970, etcetera. 2001, it looks like they appointed members. But then below that in the paragraph and what you had sent out from the select board meeting minutes, there were there was the to advise the select board blah, you know, whatever that verbiage is.
And then five points. Accessibility of yeah. Okay. So yeah. So need maintenance improvements to the property, including completion of a perimeter study, development plans, and plans for trails and wetlands crossings, competing potential uses of property, revising signage and property, and ways to encourage use of property for approved purposes.
So I think we take all that stuff right there and we put that into AI and say, we'd like a mission statement generated from that. And whatever else we put in there, it'll give us a a pretty good draft that we can then hammer out and and wordsmith to make it fit without it sounding like it came from AI. Just a thought.
I didn't find any clear cut mission statement. What I did find is so we did a was it the it was a stewardship plan. Right?
Stewardship plan. Yes.
So we did a a kind of a questionnaire with a part of that, I think. Right? Good debt. Yeah. So this is basically, you know, just this is just a questionnaire of what our priorities were, really. And and so we might wanna review that and just see, are we still in the same place with the priorities? But, anyway, that that was what we had come up with as a committee then. But there was no real mission statement, really. So Well,
what about this? So, I mean, I we we want it to be not too wordy. We don't want it to be a war and peace novel. You need to have a concise, but it it it captures. So how do you capture a lot with a little? So I was thinking about this, and again, my house where I have his will. But when he had the the will and and basically, he stated, I'm paraphrasing, a sanctuary for birds and animals.
Mhmm.
I think that could be our starting point, our sort of our genesis. Yeah. And then the things that we would do that would help create that environment or maintain that environment, which would be basically protecting the forest. Mhmm. And, you know, I think it's it's like an organic meal.
You don't need to have a lot of other things in it. And I think basically we are capturing all the five points that they have in here of what to do. I mean but I I would like something more concise and something that is just it just hits home quick and and and and it's obvious. But I I like what he had in there, and I think that was our our our main sword when it came to the hunting situation was that one statement he put into his will. Did you guys hear that? Did you guys
I did hear it before. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I'm just looking for the statement. But so I'm not sure what you're exactly saying. Well Use what they have there.
Well well, yeah. But I mean, that's that's kind of a lot there. Yeah. I mean, you know, like, you'll see you know, I don't know. Like, remember the shirt? I forget what it said. You know, you know, you'll see integrity on or, like, just some some generalized things. And so we're gonna take care of this forest. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, I don't think we have to put in there ways to encourage the use of property for improvement purposes. Well, if it's approved, and we can encourage because we do encourage we're out there anyways we're putting signs we're cleaning right we're having signage put up so that is by default encouraging use maintenance we're doing that just by virtue of us being in existence that's what we are here that's our definition of who we are Competing potential uses. That's an odd phrase, competing potential uses. I don't know where that fits. Well,
you had people who not long ago wanted to put in a disc golf.
Did you put courses here?
You had people who wanted a hunt.
The paragraph?
I know. So those those are competing Oh,
I know. Airiness. But it states here, competing potential uses. Now it says potential Yes. Which means the competing It's a good
vision statement right there.
It's against If it's competing It's against what the the force is.
Again, I I So I think if you put all your information into AI I think
I get your point.
And you and you you say, this is what I wanted to do. It'll give you something. You can say, I want this all in two sentences. I want this in a paragraph. I want this in a War and Peace book. And AI will work that and and generate that. And think that's a good starting point if you you Right. Plug in your stuff
Yeah.
Your stuff and let it
That is good.
Do what
it does. Yeah.
So so here's this is something we've generated as committee, and it would be this statement that could be utilized also. Right. That's from
the forest plan.
That's from the forest plan.
So Mhmm. Right. Yeah.
So that was used to develop the plan for the forest Right. Right. To which it
Yeah.
Is like 43. It's actually, if you look at that online, it's two it's two PDFs. It's it's like it's huge.
Yeah. It's Right. This
was
a certain page where they asked us to define what the purpose is, what our priorities were in the forest, you know, and and that was what came out of that from the committee we have. So
so I mean, that that's I like that. I mean, it's capturing taking care of the force. Yeah. Yeah.
It might be too long for for what you're thinking.
You know, I no. I just I I like brevity, I think, and especially if brevity is powerful, you know, be that's all. And I'm not saying that any of these other ones aren't good, but, you know, I like bullet point like
bank bank bank. If you put your bullet points down, then you'd use that to generate your thing so you can however you get to that end result.
Oh, yeah. I I'm not really worried about how should we get there. I'm just kicking
around some thoughts. So what are what are your bullets? What do you got?
Well, you know, let me see. I didn't think of the bullets. I thought of bullets.
Stewardship of
the forest. Yeah. Yeah. You know, encourage use. You know, I don't like competing use. That's just a weird phrase. Still a weird weird statement to me for this, but
I think that was meant manage competing uses.
Okay. But
I I don't know. Yeah. No. Could it But encourage use. And I'm just I would just think about
this too for bullet points.
We're on track. Just I like the idea of getting them all down, feeding them in,
and see what comes back.
Yeah. There's no you don't widen, you adjust it, and you regenerate it again.
Why don't I reprint I'll reprint this for everybody. We can look at it next time. K. Bart can do his piece. Mac, you can think of, like, how brief you could make this, like, how many bullet points,
you know. Yeah. I mean, you still want someone where somebody's like, you know, I mean Yeah. It's it's it's a
It's kind of interesting. Alright.
So we so we got stewardship, encourage use. What are some other things? Would it be do we wanna throw the word conservation in that? Biodiversity, habitat diversity.
How about do you have his can we just read right what he wrote? So that in clear AI if we're gonna throw this all into a blender, his his key statement there that Who Yeah. Question. I'd like to incorporate.
And I also wanna have Sue be present for this too because alright. Let me just find the actual bill here. So
mission statements generally are very short
Right.
Brief.
Right.
Yeah. And then you you can build off that for your other other descriptive things.
It's kind of interesting because I was working on the the logo. And, you know, I realized there's words in there, conservation and recreation.
Yeah.
And I thought that's great. You know? That just says it all.
Yeah. That's what that's what I was alluding to. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So you know?
That's why I'd I'd said that Mova is tough to work with because there's a lot there.
Yeah. I know. Yeah. Well, I did another mock up of it, and I we'll talk about that. But, anyway
So here's here's a statement. We can cut cull it down. Miles Shreed sentence here. I give this property to the town and direct them to use it for park and playground purposes for bird and animal refuge and sanctuary for a town forest. I mean, I I mean, we could call the beginning of that, but for bird and animal refuge, sanctuary in a town forest.
I think he got he he there he got biodiversity and stewardship and
Habitat.
Somehow use I mean, so we're those two those two words what else what's that what what's that say again?
The other words I think you're looking for is a sanctuary, Sorry. He's lost it again. For the war. Okay. For burden, any refuge or sanctuary? So sanctuary.
Yeah. I think you have to have some of that in there. Like, this this is one reason we have this place is that Right. Creatures and plants, and there's a lot living there.
Nature. Right. Living that.
Which would be Biodiversity. Biodiversity.
I guess no. I don't know that everyone would know that, though. I mean, I like the word. But
So he actually said bird and animal refuge? Yep. So the meaning of animal refuge is is sanctuary for wildlife where the needs of animals come first.
Then that's his words. Right? Answer dead.
So that's
what it's really about.
Yeah. But but he also says a park. And then further down Go back back we used to to but further down, it also says or further up, it says, or potentially a playground or a school.
Yeah. And he also mentioned So But
But you gotta
take it in in the in the time he said, a school could have been a school for learning about nature. You know, it's not know I'm saying? I know of that. I'm not
I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying there's more to it than just that little paragraph.
Right. But I think Those two sentences you read. I think of yeah. But I think I know there's a lot more words here, but I think a bird sanctuary, that nail a animal sanctuary. That's there's no way you can take that differently. Playground, you can take differently. Who like, what like, you know what I'm saying? Like, a playground is different to everybody. But in the context of a snake
1967, a playground was pretty much what I think a playground is today.
But he died then. So he probably could have swore this in '23.
But I mean, playground in a school, I I mean, I think we're reaching to say that, well, you know, it was a a nature school, because I think you would have said.
Well But I don't know that. Yeah. But if you say animal sanctuary, then you you Okay.
But not to have a But again,
a there.
But the definition of sanctuary is needs of the animals first. Right. So for example, if you go to a mass Audubon sanctuary, they let people come into their sanctuaries, not because they want people to go out there and enjoy it. They want the money of the membership. So they want to put they put out walking trails for that. Right?
True.
Yeah. If if we're saying this is a sanctuary, then a lot of the activities that may or may not be going on there, right, might not be in in line fitting with You know. A sanctuary, an animal sanctuary.
Well, that's what I'm saying. That's why So playground.
You gotta look at it.
Playground is defined by the other statements around it. It it it's it's defined by association. If if I was saying I'm opening up a calendular pocket, it's all different playing around than than would be considered here. So we are in what I'm saying is that they do have context to to the relationship they have with the rest of the situation. It's an animal and bird sanctuary and refuge, playground is now underneath that definition of within those parameters.
Maybe it's an animal playground.
Maybe it is. Yeah. I I
don't I hit playground.
I hit playground and forest. I'm taking zip lines and Yeah. That kind of thing. Well, he's
got the I that's it.
But I
I think if you look at it, he's giving it to the town to be used for Mhmm. He gives some examples. He didn't say Yeah. It has to be used as a school, or as a park or as a he's these are some of the that's how I take
that.
So there's a lot of oars in here too. Yeah. Right. You know, in other words, use it for a sanctuary or a town for Tom Forest or for work in connection with forestry. You know?
So What's the year on
that? '65?
Yeah. I should say.
Dining Dining five, though.
Yeah. Right.
I'm sure I have the legal paperwork. There's nothing there. This is '73.
Nobody I don't know who knows when he had that will drafted. I mean, people draft it on their deathbed. Yeah. You know. You you you do do several iterations of it usually as you're digressing.
I'm sure there's some people.
So what is it being used for now, I think, is the the key thing?
I think what what I think as as a well, a ref it's being used for a lot of things that it shouldn't be used for, you know, full wheeler four wheelers, dirt bikes. It's But those
aren't but those aren't acceptable use No.
But that's a fee. But I just saying reality. Yeah.
But if I go to a web page and I wanna see your mission statement That's the
that's not
We gotta define what
if I'm why am I going there?
Yeah. Sanctuary. I like I like sanctuary because people know that they're going there and they feel that they're going to Yeah.
I don't I don't know, actually. Like a nice Maybe soon
would be being It's being maintained. All around
us are wild land trust. Properties. Yeah.
Yeah. But this is what we
got. So That aren't sanctuaries.
I guess that's the only thing I have in here.
But I'm just going by his words, not mine. I I did I didn't throw that word out there.
But he didn't draft that in '68. Right? Because
he died. But there are many days on Monday I won't see any birds.
Yeah. But is that the will? Maybe it's on the sanctuary. Alright.
So I put sanctuary down. What else you got?
Well, again, sanctuary and refuge. Refuge has it all too. Oh, this is
the deed. Well, this is
just Well, you asked
me feel that. Sanctuary and refuge are pretty much the same thing.
This is the deed. Sanctuary sounds a little bit more political.
Well, refuge
Will was dated on
the fifth day of October.
But you wanted you wanted nineteen point one, I'm sorry. Yeah.
Oh, do you have?
So okay.
Yeah. Yeah. 1965. 65. Alright. Yeah. Thank you. So
it was the year he died. Yeah. Yeah. Alright.
Well, it sounds like we have a little work to do on it.
So I got stewardship, encourage use, biodiversity, sanctuary. What else we got?
Folks have been out there. Recreation.
Yeah. Recreation.
Yeah. Nature. So we're all into the hopper and see what happens.
Yeah. You know, people people's enjoyment of nature in some way, form, or another.
It simplifies it.
Yeah. Yeah.
But get I think it's getting complicated. I do too. Yeah.
And, you know, it's something that should have really been done, I think, in a lot of ways. So we're doing something that will be good for the future too. Mhmm.
So we have stewardship, use, biodiversity, sanctuary, recreation, enjoyment of nature.
Trail management.
I think that yeah. Okay.
Kind of a big part of it. Maintenance trail maintenance?
Yeah. Yeah.
But if it's a good buzzword? Yeah.
Yeah. Trail maintenance.
But wouldn't that be part of stewardship?
Not necessarily. But stewardship is another
another Stewardship on on its own is is the care of the forest itself, the health of the forest, the management of what so management of invasives, management, the thinning project that we did.
I don't think we need trail man maintenance of way of stewardship. I think it's encapsulated. Well, I don't I don't Well,
what's worst do? Think so They're two different things. I'm I'm not gonna cross out bullets.
Well, I've sent a few people just people said this is getting too so now we keep But sort of we're doing words.
But we're doing bullets. Okay. And then you boil down your bullets
and the concept in the AI. I get that.
But but even not with AI, we we look at words that have similar meanings and we say we don't need that one. I think brainstorm it out and we just come up with words that we want for
the Well, if you go to AI,
it's going to rephrase it to whatever you want. Right. Yeah. It's just a matter of Yeah. Yeah. Telling it what what what what is the what is the end result that we need.
Little bullet points that I could think of for now.
Let's see. Education? Yeah.
He certainly
Well, that's where I think he met school. Mhmm. As a play because every every place can be a school. What
would you say about you know, we've had some nature walks and so forth, some of those activities. I don't know if that would be part of it. I guess that's education. Right?
I think I I think that's education.
Maybe, Dom, I we probably should be in there. Nature. I know that's so basic and obvious, but I wanted to like the whole vibe is of this forest is us. People go out and enjoy it.
We have that. Enjoyment of nature. Okay. That's what I thought.
Yeah. I was in there. I just didn't I
was looking
for a short word here.
Think think that's probably enjoyment of nature is probably if you were to take everything that we have, that's probably the biggest one.
Does AI have a have a a a like sort of a it's all in protocol that it weighs things more? Like if you put it in first, it it's not at that point. Well, I I don't
I mean, I'm just gonna throw these in and just say, hey, this
is Yeah. I just didn't know if you would have put one. Like like, if the first one would weigh more in its I
don't know. I I mean, it may or may not. I mean, I'm sure we can manipulate it to to do what we want. Yeah. I'm just learning learning it, but
We're kind of in the drafting process, so really Uh-huh. Nothing
sooner. But I would say if if we if we look at all of these, I would say enjoyment of nature is probably the that would be the the top one out of those bullets, I think.
Well, it His his his can't have enjoyment unless you have the forest that's conserved, though, you know, in a way. Right.
Right. Right. But I think his his gist was, you know, what what he was saying was, I want people to enjoy this. Right. Yes. That's what I mean, I don't I don't know him, but Yeah.
It could
be as simple as to enjoy nature.
Right.
Yeah. That's
it. Your honor, you just said a word too, conservation.
I like the conservation and recreation because they kind of go together in a lot of ways, although they oppose each other in a way too, you know. They're
The only downside I I can see and this is this is, you know, hairs and this is minutiae, but somebody could look at it because I think we've already had discussion in here. Enjoyment of nature. Now you're defining to somebody else what their enjoyment of nature is. So I think even in his own will, there was some kickback and forth of of, like, well, how do we take it that way? So enjoyment somebody could say, I enjoy riding my dirt bike out here, which is so who defines? So enjoyment of nature naturally, I
don't know how We've already established that there are no unauthorized motor vehicles. We've already established there's no hunting.
Right. Yeah.
So those those things would be well, you can you can we're not saying you can't enjoy nature that way. You just can't do it here.
Yeah. Okay. Well, we're only talking about here.
So Right. Exactly. So I I don't think that
You're the Bart, five minutes ago, just debated back and forth about the meaning of certain words in there, so I'm just going with the same thing. So you said it could be a school, could be a playground. What's the definition? And so I'm basing my statement on that, like, somebody could say, I like to enjoy it here by by laying like, you know, running around and playing
You're right.
You're right.
No. Bart, it's called back and forth.
I I understand. Yeah. You're right. Yeah.
So I'm just trying to get clarification. Well, let's just put this in AI and see what that case back. Yeah.
I think I statement immediately. If we just come up with words, you want a mission statement, this is how you do it. You brainstorm
it. Mhmm.
You know?
And then do do you produce it? Yeah. You mark it up.
Sorry. Whether it's AI or whether somebody wants to say, I'm gonna write this on their own. Right. Right. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah.
Then you
bring it back, and we can carve it up into pieces again. If you change the sentence or whatever.
Yeah. But I'll also bring this thing I wrote already. I'll make copies of that. So I can bring that too. We can look at everything. It's just it's just crafting it, really. Yep.
As far as what he wrote in the will, it's too vague because he What he wrote in the will so many things.
Yeah. I know. Yeah. I know.
He didn't have, like, one idea.
But you do have the idea. He gave it to the town for people to enjoy. We understand that. And the enjoyment is gonna be because we're taking care of it. So there's the two pieces. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. And I just think that one statement helps further define another statement. Enjoyment. Correct? Mhmm. But done with the eye on what you're enjoying and that it's I I I'm not getting by the refuge and sanctuary for birds and animals. So within those confines, enjoy it. So I think that needs to be clear. But, again, we're just coming up with with a mission statement, and we we I mean We haven't had one for a while.
So Yeah.
It's not like we need it by June. It could
be something like a mission, a sanctuary for people to enjoy. You know?
A sanctuary for all. Yeah. Humans and or animals. Right? Well Yeah. Two legged and four legged. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I think we got some good progress on it.
I know
it sounds
you know I don't know, a healthy debate. A little
it's not gonna happen overnight. I think I think that's a good idea just to see what AI might come out with.
You know, eventually, AI will only be able to pull from other AI if everybody keeps just using AI. Then AI will find itself in what it put down last time. Alright. Are you good with that? Bart, you gonna put that into the blender? Yep. Cool.
If anyone thinks of anything else, just send me a text or Okay. An email.
Okay. Whole business number three. Trail work update since the April meeting. I was not there. So
And who was there? And it was the April 25. Right?
That was a
Saturday because I had a wedding that day. I wasn't there.
So we we Sue Who's we? Sue? Sue. Yeah. Joe and me Okay. When we we walked the yellow trail, and we the yellow blue, but essentially the yellow trail. Okay. Yeah. And we cleared quite a bit of stuff. Mhmm. More
than I
Joe had to fire up Joe had to fire up fire up his big chainsaw a couple of times. Wow. Yeah. Which is good. I mean, it's good that you had to you get to use it and you didn't carry it for nothing.
That's right.
Yes. That's right.
Because that would have really stunk. Yeah. Just I would have just started it just to start it. Right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So the the yeah. And there there was a lot of a lot of small sapling stuff. You know, well, not small, but probably, you know, the six to to 10 foot small stuff that got snow loaded over, just bent over. They're not they're not gonna straighten out.
So we we nipped. Thinning before. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah.
Well, I mean, these are these are the the, you know, pencil
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Pencil thick, It's you smaller. Yeah. Kinda tall that would just snow load it over and over the trail. We we did a lot of nipping and and lopping and and then some big tree you know, not big trees, but big big, but you know where some trees are. Yeah.
A lot of vines.
Lot of yeah. A lot of a lot of bryas that Yeah. Gets nipped, which and then I think Sue did a little police call in the parking lot after
So Yeah. She wound up getting several bags.
Really?
Yeah. When I walked in the woods Wow. Further down the street, she came back with quite a bit of stuff.
That's too bad.
Which we should probably be prepared for. I didn't probably should have had more shopping, you know, trash bags.
There's a lot of and
then you realize, you start walking along, and the next thing you know, every couple of feet, there's
something I don't understand the
the Yeah. Let's go enjoy nature and then Yeah. I mean, the the the bottle or can is lighter now. You just drank it. I don't know why you carried it.
Well, it wasn't in the woods.
No. We're in the along the street. Oh, along the street. Walking walk
and all that.
Yeah.
No. There's very little
Right. Through the trails.
Yeah. Yeah.
Very real. I was when I was there with Hayden the other day, I I found out on the trails, I I just found one Cheetos wrapper.
Not like Not bad.
Not bad. But, yeah, it was it was productive.
Okay. All persons told to sell wood, seven pies. This item is tabled. Mhmm. I mean, it's still being tabled? Yeah. Okay. That's what I thought. Old business number five, access to Memorial Bench. Barts, to consult with law administration.
I I get it. I was supposed to meet with them, but that that event got canceled, so I didn't see them. I'll just say But I will be seeing them soon.
Agenda. Yeah. Next meeting.
Well, business number six, sign hanging dedication plans, date, date, rain, date, and time. I thought again, I don't have my notebook, that we came up with a date last time for
the We did not a time and not a not an alternate date. Right. Okay. Before we publicize it all, we're gonna need that information. Yeah. Like, a save the date kind
of the twenty ninth. That was on the twenty ninth. Yeah. August 29.
I thought she was going to check with the family.
She is. Yeah. She's not here. That's why there's no time,
I think. Okay.
Yeah. So we're waiting on Sue for that. So it's gonna be a next meeting kind of thing.
Okay. Okay.
But, you know, we're gonna have to get ready for it because August, unfortunately, can come fast.
Oh, yeah. Excuse me.
Once June's here. I know.
I know. Alright. New business. Yes. Group work enforced.
So remember what yes stands for again.
That's the Youth Environmental Social Society, which is a club at the Middleborough High School.
Okay. Youth Environmental what society? Social.
Youth Environmental Social Society.
So what kind of work would they do?
No power tools.
So snippers?
Nippers, loppers, trash pickup type stuff. They got like forty five minutes they wanna do this trip.
Is it a one time thing, Bart?
Or I I think right now it's a one time. They've done it in the past. So they've they've they've come out and they've done done a similar little short project.
How many of them do you think they may be?
I think he said let me pull up the email. I think
he said he had two. Okay.
What is the age range of yes.
It would be high high school students. Okay. Oh. So I don't I don't know.
So we talked about the the section between the parking lot and the street.
Mhmm.
Right. Is that something and that has a lot of thin kittens in there that could be nipped down with not maybe these, but
with loppers.
Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe and trash. Right. So that would be
Good project.
Only forty five minutes. Right.
Right. We
It's a confined area.
We'd wanna plan on that either sooner or later. Right?
So well, we have a date. We got a date that they're available. So they're proposing 02:15 on May 12 or with rain a a a weather date an alternate date would be May 19 at 02:15. So May 12 What date would be the date?
Let's see. May 12 is Tuesday.
Nineteenth is tomorrow. Yes.
So that would be next two a week from
Week from today? Today.
Yeah. Or two weeks from today. Yeah.
Yep. Yep. So but that
would give them forty five minutes instead of wandering out into the woods.
Right. Yeah.
Right. Yeah.
We've talked about cleaning that up. Yep.
You know I'm saying?
We'll get to it. We'll get to it.
Well Yeah.
Now that's
a chance I suggest May 12. I can't guarantee either day because it's that early in the day, and I don't know what my job will be going on. But depend for what you guys think Because you don't want it to start to keep growing in there Sure. And keep the ticks.
Right. He's looking at May 12 with the nineteenth as
a Back up. So who could be there
on May 12? I told him I can be there on the twelfth.
I'll happily leave work.
Say that again?
Joe happily He
said he happily leave work. You
know, I say that a lot. I'm like, I don't need much motivation to take a day off.
Can be there too. But
And the goal there is to thin out all of the small stuff and just leave the big stuff so that Line of sight.
Line of sight. Thank you. Yes.
There's a lot of other benefits to that. Trash won't get all hung up. Mhmm. You know? I mean, you've got all that underbrush, the trash can get snagged in there and with briars, and you can only imagine what you'll find. Yeah. Yeah. There's gonna be a lot of lot of molds. Sure. Yeah. I
like Yeah. One side's a viable side. The other one's the Sorry.
I can't be there that day, but I could be there the nineteenth. So I'll Alright.
What time? 02:15
fifteen. 02:15.
So is that something maybe you can send us an email if they confirm? Yeah.
Yes. I Also, as a general reminder. Right. Yeah. I had yeah. I had sent this out to you guys on and I'll I'll forward him again on what I'll do is I'll I'll reach out to Alan. He's the Alan Harris, he's the YES Club adult. Okay. He wasn't he's the
And he would be there.
Right? Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Absolutely. Yeah. He's the high school teacher who is he's like the science department chair or something. Yeah. Who's the adviser for this club.
Okay. The adviser. Right.
Yeah. So I'll I'll just confirm the date with him. I'll send out an email.
Okay. Yeah.
CC you guys.
I'll book I'll book both days just in case.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I can get out, if I show up,
I can show up. Okay.
Easy.
My knees are never static.
Busy busy day. Busy days, Mac.
I can't make either one.
Yeah. You got people.
I connect and I need
your children see. They do.
They do. So what are we gonna what are we going to
be doing? Oh, I'll be working along way. You Okay. Sure. We can work. Yeah.
So Alright.
If you want, bring it bring it. Law and Bizzle. Yep. And And Bizzle. Yep. And maybe we could bring trash bags or something.
Yeah. They're gonna be picking up trash.
Yeah. So I I I think it's it was like he had a minimum of two.
And this is on the persecute side?
Per right. No. Tispequin. Tispequin.
Oh, it's on
the Oh, Tispequin side?
Tispequin. Yes. I'm sorry.
Oh, alright. So do we have the same
Similar similar thing going on there that's Okay. Perfect. Right.
Glad I mentioned
that. Thank you. I would Yeah. I would've gone to Purchase Street too.
Yeah. Yeah.
Alright. Good. So it was brought so in that case, the whole thing could be cleaned up.
That whole parking lot could be cleaned Right.
Yeah. Yeah. Just right there. They they don't even have to go into the but, you know Right. Generally, what whatever they wanna kinda do, we, you know, we'll make the suggestion. But if, you know, if they wanna go walk the trail and pick up trash, you know
That'd be great too. But also snip,
you know
But nipping the nipping the small stuff. Okay.
We're all set with
that? Right.
We can do that same thing for the
purchase street side, though, to make No. I agree.
A future work party.
You know? Yep. Which we'll talk about next time.
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Well, I just went based on the artwork that we were looking at and did, you know, like a schematic kind of thing. That's cool. But I don't think it's gonna translate well. So You know? Yeah. I don't
What what
what would translate like Well,
the trees have to be a little more stylized.
Yeah. Definition gets lost.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And and so that the wording is what that's another matter. So the wording on it right now is what it says there. Western Memorial for Frederick Western Memorial Forest, Conservation Recreation, Millborough, Mass. Awesome. That's quite a lot on there. Sure is. I happen to think we might wanna do holly instead of the pines, but, you know There's a
lot of holly out there. Yeah. Yeah.
There is a lot of holly, but like I said, I wasn't real happy with it. So here's another one I did, but this this wasn't this is a cardboard farm. We have a farm in Nova Scotia. So I did that, and here's the the kind of the letterhead we got out of it. You know? But That's pretty cool. Yeah. It is. But like how it translates to a logo for a shirt, I don't know. You
know? Yeah. Know.
That that does.
That's that's a lot to put on a shirt. So yeah. Yeah. It's very interesting. Well,
you know, I can Here he has a Just feel like they did the Westport. Very simple. Oh, yeah. That I I like that.
I like that. Yeah.
Oh, that's
Felted. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. I mean, I could just do a Heron.
I could do a
Holly thingy. Something simple that is. Yeah. Yeah.
How about something that's Is that too far or something? It doesn't represent Because we can't. Very good. Westlake Trail. Yeah. But it's a history. It's like Yeah. Yeah. You know? It's just, like, something needs to go live.
Did you see that? I didn't cut
Oh, this is just so this is something a white color idea that we made. Oh, cool. Cool. Yeah. But it doesn't translate to a T shirt exactly. So I think it's picking one element or something or maybe a tree and one of the thing or maybe a holly. Holly seems good to me only because we have a lot of it in there, but
I like the holly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I'll take This
being being looks like a hill or a mountain.
Which we don't have.
We don't have. Right. Right. Yeah. We definitely have squirrels. Yeah. With our the the trails are all away from
The water. The water. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So we're less likely to see the the GBH and the and the Yeah. Yeah. The bass.
Yeah. Lot of deer. But
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I can come up with something for next time that's a little bit more like what you've got there.
Yeah. They make it simple.
They're Just a Hawley branch,
for example. The bench. Yeah. Oh, even I kinda like the bench. Yeah. Yeah. Because that that it's I think you could translate that to a shirt. Yeah.
Cool. Like Yeah. And that's I mean, I I like yeah. I've only been to the bench once, but I'd like I'd like to have something that's identifiable, like, when you when you see it, you know Or oh.
I'm sorry.
No. No. No. Basically, I was gonna keep on
So how about how about in line with that concept, but Yeah. Because you
saw Okay.
Yep.
Yeah. With the the thing Frank built on one side, but basically It's just a sign. It's right. Like that, but Right. The hanging sign. One job almost so everybody right? I think it'd be great. And then And two fans, Hollywood. Or possibly. Yeah. It's one and you get a well, maybe that's First time. We put that in either a circle or You gave everybody
I like the sign. In the circle.
I think the sign
because you needed more. So
I I I I'd rather do the sign because the bench is something we can't get to right now. Not everybody's gonna get to it. Not everybody's
gonna People are gonna be like, what's that? But the sign Yeah. Is already but now the sign In the winter when you get there, you see the sign. You see the shirt that matches the signs.
Yeah. Like the difference with the sign. Take a
picture of it, Jerry.
So we're thinking we're kicking around now the actual sign.
Yeah. That will be hanging.
Because this is a sign. Seen yet. No. Yeah. Yeah.
This is a sign, you know Right. That I did for
The one that you had up last year?
No. Well, no. No. Yeah. I Yeah.
Put it up for the conference and then took it down. Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I saw it.
I mean, to the point, again, we're not married to these church of life. So we want a different Yeah. A different connotation the next time. But I think think I the signing, the circle I love the circle idea with just Frederick White, like, don't have to put it, it'll be on the sign. Right. Frederick West and Memorial Forest.
And that's I mean,
you look at the definition that they got onto the You sure you have on that?
Yep. Oh, yeah. That's they
got some pretty good definition on that.
Okay.
Yeah. They're good. I I they depends upon what you get, I guess. You know, I've had some shirts because I have shirts made up all the time. They feel like Which is
all we doing screen print or embroidered.
So that's what? That's screen printed?
Yeah. Screen printed.
Is that Yeah.
This is screen printed here.
I would
think that a t shirt, guys will be screen printed because
your shirt's gonna get ruined. Reached out to textile
That's what we got.
In Lakeville because I'm just getting all my shirts made by them now. They said we're gonna be getting some quotes. We're gonna have to get three. He went press it.
Oh, okay.
So I just because I'm never talking to them, so I just sent them an email about that.
Alright. I was I'm sorry.
I missed just what you said. Textile Plus in Lakeville. TextilePlus? I just hired them to make a whole bunch of shirts. Yeah. Okay. That's what they'd be interested. Of course, they'd be interested. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Probably feed it.
Matt, to get
a quote. Yeah. Is that something? Yeah. So I got them already. At least I threw an email out to them.
Nice and simple. Yeah. But
yeah, screen print for t shirts. If you're gonna embroider something, it should be like a polo shirt.
Yeah.
A polo, a jacket, or
a hat. Yeah. Like the screen print. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that's the color right there. Yeah. That's good.
Yeah. We go on with what's on the back. We do anything on the back. Like, is trail.
I like trail Trail
or what does it say? Trail team? This one says trail team. Yeah. What's wrong with that?
Nothing. That'll
work. That's it? Yeah. Why don't you take that whole what do we just say? I'm just gonna say.
Just put for every question. I'm just
throwing a statement.
White. Put white out around there.
You know what? Why not? I love it.
Yeah. I like the color too.
Yeah. That color's awesome. It works.
Yeah. Yeah. And the the tan with it looks good.
Yeah. Oh, the tan. Orange though. Right? Well, you know, I like I love burnt orange in gray. That's why they call it my Jeep. That's why they call it my fine too.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Burnt orange. Why don't
we just get a picture so you stand up and off? What about you hat?
What about you hat? Your hat's got a nice color.
The license plate would just say it would say
And that's a dark green. FWMS. Fine
green. Yeah. For the gross on the
On the license plate with your Jeep.
Yeah. I'll get my Jeep. They're going right through the Western Forest. Yeah.
What right. Crashing over pine trees.
Chasing chasing at a loose dog.
What wording would be on the front? Frederick Weston Memorial Forest? You think? Works.
Just in the circle.
Yeah. Yeah. Memorial Forest.
Yeah. But
Yeah. By well, I think the forest. I think the sign already says that.
Yeah. If we do the sign in King Clinton. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If we have to get
But if we don't, you would have to have Frederick not Weston Memorial Forest.
But you could have conservation recreation on the outside and just have Weston Forest. Yeah.
In a circle.
Yeah. Right. If you use the sign.
Yeah. Yeah.
So there's a couple different ways to
do Yeah.
Yeah. Because in that picture that we were that we were debating on, but it's just conservation and recreation
on it.
Yeah. That old so I think why why why are we trying to reinvent the wheel? Think
Right. Yeah. Right. It's it's a mini mission statement in
a way. As a matter of Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm liking that already. And and, I'll go with the tint. I personally love burnt orange and green. I think that it's just a little bit of a pop on the on the green, but it's what everybody else thinks too.
Like the burnt orange. So my only other question is do we want Middleborough mass on there at all? I mean, obviously, these people in Middleborough
If it fits. I guess you should see with it, without it. Right.
Right. I I would think that if it if it's gonna be the sign which says Frederick Weston Memorial Forest, so you don't need to put that. Right. Then if it's a circle Mhmm. With that in the in the middle, then you would you might wanna put Middleborough Mass.
And then Conservation Recreation.
Yep. So Or or above, below, whatever. Yes. Right. However that fits.
Yeah. Sounds good.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That way it it kind of places it somewhere in space. Yeah.
Maybe maybe a holly tree next to the sign. With the tick
on it. I was kinda thinking that, but yeah. Anyway, just because it's so much Holly.
There's a lot of Holly.
There's a lot of Holly. Yeah. Pretty questionable.
Yeah. We've thrown a lot at her.
So Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? It came foil all the way down to a very simplistic Yeah. Straight to the point, nice. And that's why I think the shirts are a great idea. Yeah. Okay. Good. Cool. Alright. We got a game plan.
For bringing that.
Yeah. Yeah. That helped.
Yeah. And it really did. Yeah.
Alright. I got about five minutes. Okay.
I'll I'll schedule this up.
I'm I'm watching my hand my hand clock. Oh, alright. Okay. New business number three. No hunting postings. Matt, to update the committee on signage and inventory on both sides of forest. Okay. So overall, on the Purchase Street side, we I'm sorry. The Tuskewin side, we have a sign there. It's been banged by something, but it's just square sign rectangle sign that says no hunting. Purchase. Clear right out of the gate by the only entrance. But on the Purchase Street side Oh, Tispecun. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Tispecun side, we have a good sign. It's a little beat up. But big and solid. No hunting. Miss it.
It says no hunting.
It says no hunting. Nothing else on it. Okay. Yeah. On the Bridge Street side, it is it is, like, 5¢ since I took a picture of it. Yes. That's right. And not on the other side. So if somebody decides to walk through the out and you know which way they're gonna walk? Wherever that car's parked closest to. They're usually gonna walk in that way and come back the other way. So that side doesn't have a sign at all and the one that we actually do have I think there's a lot to be desired on that because that's it right
there. Right.
The white sign.
Yeah. No it's you know no hunting, no Campfires. Yeah. No right. Well actually no campfires has been blocked up.
Well, no camping.
Yeah. No camping. So is camping allowed? Yeah.
No. Because we updated that Yep. To say that on the kiosk with
The Christmas tree.
Her tree. Yeah. That's another thought. Nicole's tree, she did the tree.
Yeah. Yeah. So the tree could be behind the sign.
That could For be the shirt. For the shirt.
Yeah. Okay. Right.
Nicole's tree. Oh. Remember she she came up with that tree? Yeah. So that might be some a thought.
Yeah. I like that thought. Think it looked beautiful. So just in the essence of Joe's time.
I can leave. You guys can
keep going. You know? No.
We only get 10 more things, Joe. Yeah. We we still have
a quorum.
So so that's it. So if you wanna get a sign, I think we need to get two new signs over there at Purchase Street side. One from and I think they should be isolated signs, you know, just like you have over at Tusquin Side where it's just hunting. Just a no hunting, and that is the player's dead.
So one one thing I might wanna say is there are state regulations on land that you want to post, no hunting. Yeah. And there are official state signs that you have to get, and they have to be mounted so many feet. On state land or any I I I know Oh,
it's private. Yeah. Private. I know. I don't know how it works on I didn't think it worked the same way.
So just taking a page from conservation, we have some conservation land where we allow hunting, other conservation land where we don't allow hunting. We don't have those signs everywhere. It's not officially posted like it was my land, if it was my private land. Mhmm. It's not posted that way. And I'm just speaking not to what what the state law says, or may may may or may not say, but just what cons what we've done with conservation. Okay. We haven't posted everywhere.
That's what hunters look for though. That's all I'm saying.
Right. But hunters also look to see they do a lot of homework.
I realize.
Yeah. And and if I might add to that, I think there are several there are several on ramps into the property Mhmm. That somebody may come down a trail that's not from the parking area. We should probably post at those places, for instance, the Fay Ave Trail that comes in. And then out on the blue trail by the
Power lines.
Power lines. Yeah. Mhmm. There's two two access points Yes. To the property, which actually is from the property to the prop you know, but coming into the trail network. So maybe on those places, so it would be more than just signage at the parking lots. But
So what we Other trails. For those other ones if we want no motor vehicles because that's usually where we're like Yep. In on dirt bikes. Yep. I know the DPW makes signs. I don't know if that's something we wanna ask them. I don't think it'll be an issue, but they do make signs. So so maybe we could go to them and pay them for it because we have to get them from somebody.
Right.
So I will be on that. I'll reach out to them, see if if I you know, but just before Joe goes, shall I talk I'll with two signs for the parking lot of purchase and then I'll we'll count up the other
I'll I'll I'll take an inventory Okay. The other other trails coming in where I think we should get it.
Sounds like a plan.
I'll send that over to email.
Perfect. Have a good night. You.
Have a great day.
Two more. Two more.
Hey. Thank you.
Two more meetings? Well, if you're tired tonight.
We got time for meetings tonight.
One more
meeting tonight. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh.
Well, we hope this
That's all those fun.
Oh, two
meetings. Uh-oh.
Two more planning board meetings.
Oh, okay.
I'll be home watching you on TV tonight. Yeah. I hope
this was the most fun Alright.
See you, Joe. See you later, guys. Alright. Okay. I I didn't get
you on the signs there. Go back a minute.
So I'll reach out to DPW Okay. DPW. To see if they are willing, wanting, and able to make signs Okay. For us. Okay. Right now, two for the parking lot of Purchase Street, both entrance.
Yeah.
Okay? And then Mark's gonna look to see where all the entry points are around this. There's the is the high tension wires, there is faeve, and just so we can then see if we need more sides to put over there. And then if we couple up on that or double up on that, no motor vehicles because I've seen four wheels and dirt bikes flying through
Yep.
From the the high tension wise.
I know. Yeah.
Which actually that is part of the forward.
Yeah. Definitely. But they, you know, they travel that way. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. They're
coming in from the
high tension. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Can I ask a question? Yeah. So if you decide on how many signs you want, do you go to the select board for approval on them?
I don't know. I can find out. I wouldn't think you
have to. Because you don't have a per se budget where they can charge against.
We do have
a budget. We do. You do
you do have a budget? So there's
there's money.
I know. Well, that's what you told me before. There's money, but you you don't have a physical budget though. Do you? With Right.
Not budget.
We have to ask
them. Yeah. Because you don't I I I look at the budgets and I don't see the group in there.
Yeah. Because it's not taxpayer. I think that's probably why. Right? It's not taxpayer. It's our
own budget. Right. It was money that was set aside.
Yeah. It was a state money.
From the
Westin Trust. So so now how do you delegate that money those funds?
Through the West the Selectman.
The Select Board. Yeah. Okay.
So I'm little confused. Money for this purpose. Okay? Right. And it's going to come from the Westin Funds. Yep. Okay. So but they're still approving that.
So you you they're gonna purchase the signs? Is
that No. We don't pay back. No.
You do. Oh, so you just submit it. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. I understand. That's my question. I made it long, but that was my question. Yeah.
Yeah. Looks like when they rented the brush hog and everything.
Yeah. Okay. I just I'm just
I use the care of my credit card and then I get paid back. Got it. But there's also a way that we can use the town credit card too, so I have that potential. I haven't done it, but it can done that way too.
That's I I was just curious.
And then Phil, I think, got paid directly. Know?
Because I read everybody's budgets, and I just I've never seen anything.
I'm still bad with the signs. When you say signs budget. Yeah. You're talking about the signs with all the bullet points on
them? Nope. No. Okay. So Just
no hunting.
I just took clear no hunting sign.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Alright. That I just wanna make sure that I'm getting that right.
Because, again Yeah. I mean, that's the one that's extremely visible Yes. And the other one is not very well, it's visible, but it's Okay. It's kind of mired in the other things and you you look at it quick and you go away but you see no hunting. It's it's dark. Yeah. Yeah.
So you're gonna have a report
on whether DPW I'll reach out to them because they need signs for the parking lot and and they brought him over. Right. Signs, you know, because honestly, I don't think I'm speaking out of school camera, but my alleys that they have or they don't have an easement on and nobody can tell me and I said listen, I I you guys gonna maintain these alleys you have an easement on them? No. Shut your alleys down. I'm like shut them down you know and then they said we'll make you signs that say alleys not maintained. Entrance you on risk. So I I was was only worried about liability, somebody falling in there and about a week later These
are at your business? Yeah.
On both sides? Yeah. On both sides of a building so again somebody walks in there and falls and hits their head I don't want much of this happening I want to but they made them up for me is what I'm trying to I get you. So I think they have the opportunity to make them at the DPW. Yeah.
Okay. Sure. Alright.
Okay. Unless anybody else has anything to talk about that.
I get Yeah. Just another thought on signage. Maybe at the Fay Avenue Trail, put a sign there that says Western Forest.
Yeah. Okay. Well Just when you make up a sign that says well, we don't say Western Forest. Don't do this. But know you say Yeah.
Right. Because
yeah. Yeah. We're gonna wanna make signs.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. How about a nice wooden one? Yeah. Yeah. I'll try to round it out.
He's pulling your leg.
No. I'm serious. And you are? Yeah. I mean, I think a nice wooden sign, like one of those jigs. Yeah. Oh, alright. Yeah.
Alright. So that that's a suggestion.
Yeah. It may look like my dog mowed my lawn. I don't know how that thing's gotta go. They're just looking good cutting across.
Oh, once you get those jigs.
Yeah. It's a You know,
I know what I I handle it, which goes great until the one line of you screw up and then Yeah.
Something else always the last letter.
Yeah. They called what a pantograph? The the things that you put on
your router and you Oh,
I I follow the lettering.
Oh, I I need to get one of those because I just tried freehand it. Yeah. Know they got a thing With the Frederick Russ. That didn't work. K, guys. Unanticipated. Yep. What do you got?
So I was out on Tesspequint Street a couple of weeks ago, and I noticed tree stumps on the side of the road
Oh, yeah.
In the forest, in the vicinity of Raymond Ave or Raymond Way and
In Tispequin.
On Tispequin. Yeah. So Raymond 56 Tispequin And Raymond Path. There's a small pool of water on the side of the road. The trees appear to have been removed. Please see photos. So I sent that off to conservation. Right. Several trees, probably eight or nine of them around this little pool were cut and removed.
The trees are still there.
So if I'm going in Cut. If I'm going into the forest, would that be on the left side?
So if you're coming from the village market.
Yep.
I'm sorry, not the village market. Richard's Pub. So what's that? Fishers. So if you're coming from 28 West Ham Street, and you're headed towards the forest. Yep. Go past the forest. You're done parking Yep. On Tisquah Point. On your right, there's a little pool in the vicinity of 56 Tispequin
Yeah.
And Raymond Path, which is a a driveway or a road off Tispequin. So right right there on the right in the forest. Okay. On the forest property. Right off the road. I mean, it's right I saw it I was driving by and I saw it stops. I'm like, So I asked, I took photos, I sent it off to Conservation. Conservation forwarded it to the email to Chris Peck, and DPW asked if they had done anything there. Chris Peck came back and said that they hadn't done any cutting there. So somebody did some I don't know. Maybe it was some somebody maybe it was hardwood. I don't know. It was but around this pool
Like a vernal pool type of thing?
It's just it was wet.
Yeah. Okay.
A puddle or there might be a culvert there. Okay. I think actually Trish Trish said that there was a culvert there, so
Alright. How big do you think these trees were around?
Oh, some of them were, you know, like that and some of them That's
a little lot if somebody do it for for just try
to figure out I know. Know.
Always use that to burn.
I I mean, I don't it's strange. Yeah. So so it's a mystery. Mhmm. Just by something I noticed and Yeah. Just wanna bring it to folks attention.
Were the trees on Western Forest probably?
Yeah. Yeah. They're in the yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because that whole side of of Western Forest down to the stone wall by the farm there, that's Oh, right. That's all Yeah. You know, almost from almost from the creek from Black Brook oh, is it Black Brook then? What's the Brook there? Anyway, from the Brook. Fallbrook? Fallbrook. Yes. Fallbrook. There, all the way down to the stone wall, that's all Forest.
Right. I see. Yeah. There's no questioning that. Yeah.
So keep an eye on Facebook to see if anybody starts selling hand carved canes. Yeah.
Right. Because they're they're not that big. I yeah.
I mean
Oh, we could I have an idea for a new sign. Don't cut our trees.
Yeah. So just basically, it's been reported. Yeah. Yeah. To conservation?
Yeah. Conservation. And conservation checked with DPW. DPW didn't do it.
Oh, good that you wrote that because now we're all we all have our eyes open for it. Yeah. Now, if
you start to see a patent.
Yeah. If there's more that starts popping up, that's weird. Yeah.
Anything else I I didn't anticipate it?
I'm just have one question. This goes back to the the the logo. So am I doing anything for that? I'm not clear on or we just I
Well, it I mean, I can send TextilePlus just wrote back. I mean, we have to get three quotes on that. Right? Right? So yeah. If if we can settle I mean, Joe wasn't here, but if if we can settle on a on a look Yeah. I mean, I like I like the sign. I love I love Nicole's tree. Yeah. Although we're not gonna get the words in there anyways. I think it's getting too small. Yeah. Yeah. So that, you know, so it'll just be a tree. Right. But I guess we can just call tree. Yeah. No. But that's true.
And and a tree equates to forest.
Yeah. Right. You know what? I'm cool with that. I mean
And we can probably put a wood tick on that.
A wood tick on it. Yeah. That'll be a little mascot. That
would be just a screen a picture, you think? Or, like, how would we get that image? I guess that's my question.
Well, why don't I do this? Why don't I reach out to TextilePlus and and Agile? And the only reason why I'm I'm mentioning them, not for any other reasons, that I hired them to put me in my shirts. So I decided I can just I'll and just say, do you need from us? Here's our the here because they'll know better than than I will anyway. Yeah. True. Here's our vision. Can you make it happen? Yeah. And if they say, yeah, just do a quick drawing. I'll take a photo of of Nicole's trade.
Right.
If we wanna have Frederick Weston and then the two words there, and if we want trail team on the back and the color scheme seems good.
Yeah. So Frederick Weston. Yes. So we'd just say conservation and recreation Yeah. And move our mass. Yeah. We can get it all in a circle. Yeah.
Or or or underneath it just in the middle bar.
So it could be a circle and then move our mass.
Yeah. Yeah. Just Right.
Possibly or or Yeah. It works. You know? Yep.
So what I'll do is I'll go over there tomorrow.
Donna, Jerry. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. I'll I'll I'll present this. What you need from us and Alright.
And we can see kind of our draft of what we wanna do next time.
You
know, AI, I did something so did you see you didn't see it. Bart, did you see so I I had something made up and I did it. I put something into AI that came back in a picture and I used that picture Yeah. And it was awesome. It was awesome. I couldn't believe how well AI came out with a picture of something that I had brought up. Right. Right. And I was I was quite amazed by that. So that's always an option if if we do wanna ever get wanna keep going on the AI route.
But Yeah. That's that's the only question I have. Just wanna make sure I wasn't had didn't need to do anything about what No.
I'll I'll grab this. Okay. Great. And if we need anything more, I don't know. Do we wanna do we need to Joe seemed like he was amenable to both. I don't wanna speak for him, but do we do we do we have to vote on this?
I don't think we need to vote. Okay. I think see
it. Yeah. I think you see it for Hans. Yeah. Well,
I wanna get a course. Like to wear the insurance. Right. So Yeah.
Yeah. So I think if we just get the concept.
So we've got a
couple of concepts. Right? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
You got a couple of con you know, we get the the the sign, we got the
Tree. Tree.
Nicole's tree. We got the words. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And I I think mean We
got the colors, pretty much.
I mean
I'm good with any any combination thereof. I just I I am too. I think it's I only care that there's a real gun on it.
So I can't say anything.
So so I think it probably has a little bit of that everybody that everybody everybody likes. Right. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. And I think just seeing a draft of it will Right. Give us the the visual.
Some major's jump. Yeah.
Alright. Mhmm. Anything else I'm not anticipating? Okay. I will entertain a motion to adjourn.
So moved.
Second. All in favor?
Aye.
Aye. Aye.
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