Art in Public Places Board - Regular Meeting

Monday, January 12, 2026

The Art in Public Places Board deferred the election of officers and annual report, approved funding and shortlisted artists for the Bayfront Park Founders Memorial with a condition to seek more artists, and approved a mural for the Pelican Harbor Seabird Station. Significant discussion occurred regarding the removal of an existing mural at Antonio Maceo Park and the lack of information and process for the Miami Freedom Park public art component.

About this meeting

Government Body
Art in Public Places Board
Meeting Type
Art In Public Places Board
Location
Miami, FL
Meeting Date
January 12, 2026

Transcript

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0:00 – 0:40Speaker 8

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0:42 – 0:56Speaker 22

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1:00 – 1:16Speaker 19

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1:20 – 1:33Speaker 26

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1:33Speaker 25

Veo que ella está creciendo.

1:35 – 1:47Speaker 26

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1:47Speaker 14

Y vive bien.

3:47 – 4:37Speaker 28

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5:06 – 5:35Speaker 2

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5:37 – 6:41Speaker 1

We are going to repair the holes that are in this street, which are mostly caused by the rainy season that we are going through. The baches are created because the water stagnates in an area and that weakens the asphalt and with the passage of the vehicles, the asphalt is damaged as such. The procedure to do it, we cut around the bache to make a bache as square as possible, to do it in a correct way and to look good. The time we take to do it depends on the size of the bache, on the depth of the bache. We are going to need, on many occasions, if the bache is very deep, we have to fill it with lime rock, share it. The residents have the way to report any problem they have by calling 311. Your help as a community is very important for us to be able to locate the guards, so we exhort you, support them, and so we can help you, because you are the essence of our work.

6:51 – 7:20Speaker 25

Safety is a top priority of the Florida Department of Transportation, whether you're driving, walking, or riding a bicycle. It's important to stay alert while on or near the roadway. Drivers failing to look right at the sidewalk is a major cause of bicycle crashes. Drivers often only look where they expect to see cars, not people walking and biking. Florida law requires drivers yield to all bicycle and pedestrian traffic on sidewalks next to a roadway. Next time you're behind the wheel and at a stop, remember, look right, save lives.

7:21 – 7:44Speaker 16

20 years is a long time, right? As I mentioned to you, we were always thinking about him almost every day. His room is still there. His clothing is still there. We didn't even touch. And hopefully he returns anytime soon and any day. And that's our hope. We try to do our best so that we both stay working and we get our money.

7:45 – 8:18Speaker 4

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night, a nightmare. Sometimes I just walk by, you know, do my own thing and suddenly think about him. What I did is that I prayed to the God in my mind, you know, and asked God to help us. Help Daniel, help myself, help Lisa, help my daughter. And that gave me strength to, you know, move on. If we stop moving for him, he doesn't know we are looking for him.

8:19 – 8:45Speaker 16

And we also rely on the media, like you guys are helping us. And it's very important for us, right? The media, they send out a positive message to the public and help us to get the message across. And then we let him know we're still looking for him. We always are looking for him. We love him. All we want is to reunite with him.

9:03 – 10:04Speaker 13

I'm Thomas, the owner of New York Roma Pizza, established in Coconogro 24 years ago. When I moved from New York, I was already a pizza master. I already knew the technology to make a good pizza and I have my employees for 17 years, some of them, and since that time in Coconogro, Me ha ido muy bien, he trabajado fuerte, pero hacía buena pizza. La pizza de nosotros se vende mucho por slice y también la vendemos por pizzas enteras. Lo más importante es la temperatura del cuarto donde produces la masa y siempre se usa la masa del día anterior. Hay que dejarla reposar. Todos los vegetales que yo uso son frescos. La gente les encanta los garlic rolls. A veces se terminan y hay que volverlos a hacer. Miami has a climate that New York doesn't have. I feel very successful and I recommend people to always move forward with their projects. Consistency is progress. It's not easy, but it's possible.

11:06 – 18:51Speaker 1

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19:26Francisco Herretes

Good afternoon or good evening. Can we get please the lobbyist note before the roll call?

19:34 – 20:02Speaker 20

Good evening, Raymond Breda, Office of the City Attorney. Any person who receives compensation, remuneration, or expenses for conducting lobbying activities is required to register as a lobbyist with the City Clerk prior to engaging in lobbying activities before City staff, boards, committees, or the City Commission. A copy of the applicable ordinance is available at the Office of the City Clerk, Miami City Hall, located at 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, 33133. Thank you.

20:02Francisco Herretes

Thank you very much. May we have a roll call, please?

20:08Speaker 15

Yes. Board Member Christina Cuevo?

20:13Speaker 15

Board Member Nelson Delgado? Board Member Maria Napolis?

20:19 – 20:38Speaker 15

Board Member Gary Feinberg? Here. Board Member Juan Valadez? Board member, Jacqueline Roach. Board member, Odalis D. Ury. Chair, Francisco Giritas.

20:40Speaker 15

Vice Chair, Olga Granda.

20:43Francisco Herretes

We have Chrome. Can you read in Mr. Feinberg, or he already said? He said here. Perfect. Thank you.

20:52Speaker 15

Chair, we do have one request for an absent waiver. And it's Mr. Nelson, board member Delgado.

21:03 – 21:19Francisco Herretes

Another absence waiver from Mr. Delgado. I'll make a motion to accept, but again, Indra, we need to talk to Mr. Delgado and the other board members who aren't attending. But that needs to be definitive. We can't repeat this every single meeting. We're wasting too much time here.

21:20Speaker 14

We have spoken to the commissioner, and they're working on appointing a new member for District 1 chair.

21:28Speaker 14

For the District 1 member chair.

21:36Speaker 15

Correct. Excuse me, I'm sorry, board members, we have a motion on the floor.

21:42 – 22:02Francisco Herretes

I'll make a motion to approve the absence waiver for Nelson Delgado, just as a formality, but again, I would appreciate if you would talk to Nelson Delgado or Alice DeJure, Jacqueline Roach. and decide. Ms. Roach was just appointed, and so she's missed the majority of the meetings.

22:02Speaker 14

Ms. Roach has requested an absent waiver before we headed out to City Hall. So Florence...

22:12Francisco Herretes

So she's also requesting an absence waiver for today?

22:15Speaker 14

When we were calling her, she confirmed that she's unable to make it.

22:20Francisco Herretes

So is there an absence waiver or none?

22:22Speaker 14

She did request an absence waiver.

22:24 – 22:42Francisco Herretes

Okay, so I'll make a motion to accept both absence waivers, but I want a definitive conversation with Nelson Delgado, Odalia DeJure, and Jacqueline Roche, because we can't wait for their replacements for them to either show up at the meetings or resign. Okay?

22:47Francisco Herretes

I make a motion again, sorry, to accept the absence waivers for Ernesto Delgado and Odalis, sorry, Jacqueline Roche for today.

22:56Speaker 19

Who seconds?

22:58Francisco Herretes

Ms. Cuervo seconds. All those in favor say aye.

23:05Francisco Herretes

So the absence waivers are approved, right? Do we have any minutes to approve?

23:13Speaker 15

Yes, Chair. We have November 3rd, 2025. and December 8, 2025. Okay.

23:21Francisco Herretes

As a formality also, I'll make a motion to accept both minutes of November 3, 2025 and December 8, 2025.

23:30Francisco Herretes

Second by Ms. Napolis. All those in favor, say aye.

23:40 – 24:00Speaker 15

Please, could we swear in the public? For all those who will be testifying, please raise your right hand. Do you solemnly affirm the testimony you will be given today is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you. When you come up to the podium to speak, you will state your name and your address for the record. Thank you.

24:02 – 24:51Francisco Herretes

Thank you very much, Lawrence. You're welcome. We have a pretty full agenda today. I would suggest... I certainly suggest to reorder this, but items one, two, and three, I would request a deferral. That's the election of the chair, the vice chair, and the approval of the annual report. I was just informed by email about the term limits. for chair, and I'm definitely exceeding that. So we'll need to review this, and maybe we'll discuss at the next meeting. You have some comments on that?

24:51Speaker 9

Savan Steiner, Assistant Director. Yes, in regards to item three of your annual report that is due to the city manager no later than January 15th.

25:01Francisco Herretes

I haven't read it, so nobody send it to me, so... So you put it into the agenda packet?

25:08Speaker 14

Yes, and it's already, there's also a copy on there. I'm not ready, I haven't read it.

25:13Francisco Herretes

So we'll try to get it by January 15th, and if not, it'll be later.

25:18Speaker 9

So you would need to take action on it today in order to be able to sign it by January 15th? I can't take action on it today.

25:24Francisco Herretes

I haven't read it.

25:27Speaker 20

We haven't read it.

25:29Francisco Herretes

I'm sorry. I can't decide on an annual report. without having read the first word of the report.

25:38Speaker 9

So you're bound by city code to?

25:40 – 25:55Francisco Herretes

I've been here at this position for over seven years now, and so we've done this seven times already. This will be the seventh or eighth, I believe. So I think we can figure it out, even though it might be for the next meeting.

25:57Speaker 20

I don't know how I can reprove it if we haven't read it yet. Understood.

26:02 – 26:28Francisco Herretes

Thank you. So as I was saying, I'd like to defer items one, two, and three because I haven't read the annual report yet and we have to, or I have to review the term limits and regarding the position of chair and vice chair. Regarding also item.

26:28Speaker 15

I'm sorry, chair, you moved. We need to, we need someone to second.

26:31 – 27:11Francisco Herretes

I'm not moving yet. I'm just, just. asking that we defer those items, and also item 11, which is a resolution to modify the dates. I don't know if there are any modifications, but if they are, we can quickly do that one if you wanted to. Or defer it. And the rest of the items... Depending on however order obviously our public and what whatever order you decide is best You know for the other items that would be good Okay, we are staff is requesting to defer item number seven as well.

27:11Speaker 14

Okay. It was a a Petition from district five as this is a project in district five Good.

27:20Francisco Herretes

Is there any other item that we need to defer or?

27:24Speaker 14

No, not at this time.

27:25 – 27:40Francisco Herretes

Okay, so I If I may, I'll make a motion to defer AIP PB item number one, number two, number three, and number seven.

27:41Speaker 15

I'm sorry, Chair, but someone else besides yourself have to make a motion to move any items on the agenda.

27:49Speaker 15

So if anyone else on the board, Chair, thank you.

27:51Olga Granda

I'll move to defer one, two, three, and seven.

27:56Speaker 15

Is there... Yeah. One, two, three, and seven, correct? Yeah.

28:01Speaker 15

Thank you. One, two, three, and seven.

28:04Francisco Herretes

Is there a second?

28:07Francisco Herretes

Second by Mr. Valadez. All those in favor of deferring, say aye.

28:25Francisco Herretes

So that motion passes. Now the rest of the items, Ms. Indra, whatever order you decide.

28:32 – 28:59Speaker 14

Okay. I am proposing to change around the order of the items a little bit because we do have members of the public here present for these items, and they also came in in December when we had no quorum. Item number eight will be the first one. Item number eight is Bayfront, the Incorporator's Monument at Bayfront Park.

29:00Francisco Herretes

There's another item that's related, right?

29:02Speaker 14

Yes, that item has two resolutions.

29:06Francisco Herretes

Okay, so it's item number eight and nine.

29:09Speaker 14

Eight and nine.

29:13Francisco Herretes

All righty. So we're going to start with an item. And after that, sorry.

29:17Speaker 14

After that, we will hear item number 10, which is the Pelican Harbor item.

29:30Francisco Herretes

Do we have members of the public for any of the other items?

29:34Speaker 14

We have members of the public present for 8, 9, and 10. Eight and nine, which are the same location. All right.

29:41Francisco Herretes

Let's do those and then the other items in the regular order. All right. Item number eight, please.

29:46 – 30:27Speaker 14

Item number eight, file ID 18565. A resolution of the Art in Public Places born pursuant to Chapter 62, Article 16, titled Art in Public Places of the Code. of the City of Miami, Florida as amended, approving the expenditure of up to $300,000 from the Art in Public Places Fund to provide design services and engage artists for the creation of public art to be integrated into Bayfront Park, located at 401 Biscayne Boulevard, making findings and containing a severability clause, providing for an effective date.

30:30 – 31:37Speaker 12

Good evening. This item requests board approval to extend up to $300,000 in public art funding for a permanent artwork at Bayform Park. The site is highly visible civic gateway and aligns with the city's public art policies and master planning goals. The additional funding allocated by Parks and Recreation straightens the feasibility of delivering a durable, high quality artwork with long-term public value. Board action is required to move this project forward. $100,000 is allocated by the Bayfront Trust. The Parks and Recreation Department has allocated additional $200,000 to this project. This brings the total public art funding to $300,000. We are foreseeing these funds will be transferred to the public art fund. This allows the Art and Public Places Division to administer the project in accordance with the city code. Staff recommends approval to expenditures up to $300,000. This action authorizes funding only. Artist selection and final artwork approval will return to the board through the established back and board review process.

31:43 – 32:15Francisco Herretes

I have a question. So Bayfront Park is under the Bayfront Park Trust or Management Trust? It's kind of like its own separate thing, right? And we've always kept sort of a separation with the Bayfront Park Trust. No problem approving the art and doing all of these, acting, coordinating with the Trust, but how is it going to work moving forward with regard to artwork in Bayfront Park? Are we going to determine all the artwork that's going in Bayfront Park, or...?

32:15 – 32:43Speaker 12

With this item, we're only looking at the Founders Memorial. We're very glad that Parks and Recreations can partner and collaborate with Bayfront Trust on this one. The Public Art Division will be curating um, the project. And for now, um, this is the, the artwork that we're, um, asking to approve.

32:43 – 33:14Francisco Herretes

I was asking is more because of the, because of that separation that has historically existed with the trust, like they've done art projects that, you know, we're not really involved and they don't, they don't really, the trust that really doesn't have to come to the, to the, to the, to the board for most of it's, uh, most of the words, right. So in this case, we are, because we're coordinating, I guess, parks and rec funds with Bayfront Park Management Trust, and so the public art board is also involved, or...

33:15 – 33:40Speaker 12

This project has originated as initiative from a few respected organizations. Profiles in Black Miami were the ones who were moving it forward, along with the support of former commissioner and many advocates. So this project is really unique in that regards. And it's thanks to that organization that we're able to put the funds together and see the benefit.

33:41 – 34:10Speaker 14

Through the chair? Yes. You're correct. So the Bayfront Trust has authority over the Bayfront Park itself, so they may acquire artworks just with the approval of the trust, except in this case where we're making an exception and collaborating with a trust in which they've allocated $100,000 via a Bayfront Trust resolution for this specific project. But they do have the authority...

34:12 – 34:29Francisco Herretes

Right, like in the future, for example, if they're going to replace an artwork or do a temporary installation or do all these things, they really are not required legally to come to this board, right? That's correct. That is in the purview of the trust. Okay, and that continues like that. This is an exception. Okay, that's good.

34:29Speaker 14

We are going to maintain this artwork, though. Okay.

34:32Speaker 14

Okay, got it, yeah, of course.

34:34Olga Granda

But to clarify, there's no funding that actually comes from our, they're entirely funding the entire thing? Yes. It's just coming to us to administer?

34:43 – 35:02Speaker 14

That's correct. So $100,000 was allocated by the trust, and $200,000 was allocated by the Parks Department. So all of the funds will be transferred into the AAPP funds so that the division can manage. And maintaining it.

35:03Francisco Herretes

Good, good. Okay. Any questions regarding the funding? No? We're going to select the artists. I believe there's a short list in the next item.

35:15Francisco Herretes

If there are no further questions, Ms. Granda, do you want to make a motion?

35:20 – 35:54Olga Granda

Sure. I make a motion for... RESOLUTION 18565, IT'S A RESOLUTION OF THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES BOARD PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 62, ARTICLE 16, TITLED ART AND PUBLIC PLACES OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AS AMENDED, APPROVING THE EXPENDITURE OF UP TO $300,000 FROM THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES FUND TO PROVIDE DESIGN SERVICES AND ENGAGE ARTISTS FOR THE CREATION OF PUBLIC ART TO BE INTEGRATED INTO BAYFRONT PARK located at 401 Biscayne Boulevard, making findings containing severability clause and providing for an effective date.

35:58 – 36:09Francisco Herretes

Sorry, before, sorry, Ms. Napoles. Before, can you just add with the comment that 100,000 is coming from the Bayfront Trust, right?

36:09Olga Granda

With $100,000 coming from the Bayfront Park Trust and $200,000 coming from City of Miami Parks and Recreation. Correct.

36:17Maria Napoles

All right. Second.

36:19Francisco Herretes

Second by Ms. Napoles. Can we have a roll call vote, please?

36:23Speaker 15

Yes, Chair. Vice Chair Olga Granda? Yes. Board Member Maria Napoles?

36:35Speaker 15

Board Member Christina Cravo?

36:38Speaker 15

Board Member Gary Feinberg? Yes. Board Member Juan Valadez? Yes. Chair Francisco.

36:47Speaker 15

Motion passes five to zero.

36:54 – 37:28Speaker 14

Item number nine, file ID 18567, a resolution of the Art in Public Places Board pursuant to Chapter 62, Article 16, titled Art in Public Places of the Code of the City of Miami, Florida, as amended, approving the selection of up to five shortlisted artists in accordance with Section 62-658 of the City Code. for the integration of public art at Bayfront Park, located at 401 Biscayne Boulevard, making findings and providing for an effective date.

37:32 – 37:50Speaker 12

This project is the Miami Incorporated's monument at Bayfront Park. This is a new commission initiated through a call to artists. The monument is intended to commemorate the 1896 incorporation of the city of Miami with a specific focus on the collaboration between black and white men who made incorporation possible.

37:53Speaker 11

Next slide, please.

37:57 – 39:47Speaker 12

An important historical fact underlying this project is that approximately 44% of the votes that enabled Miami's incorporation were cast by black citizens. For many years, advocates such as Profiles in Black Miami, former Commissioner Barbara Jordan, and Dr. Enid Pinckney have pushed for public recognition of this collaborative history. This monument directly responds to that longstanding advocacy. In the early stages of the project, the City Hall roundabout was considered as a potential location for the Founders' Monument. Bayfront Park was ultimately selected due to its high visibility, historical significance, and the presence of other commemorative monuments on site. Bayfront Park is one of Miami's most symbolically important civic spaces. The site selection was made in coordination with the former District 2 Commissioner, Profiles in Black Miami, and the Parks Department. Originally opened in 1925, Bayfront Park has long served as the city's front yard, offering essential waterfront gathering space for residents and visitors. Over time, it has functioned as a wartime memorial site, honoring local service members, and later evolved into a major civic and cultural venue, hosting public ceremonies, performances, festivals, and large-scale community events. Its layered history and prominent downtown location make it one of Miami's most symbolically significant public spaces. In their early 1980s, the park was re-envisioned through a master plan by artist and landscape architect Isamu Noguchi, which introduced a strong actual layout, a pedestrian prominent and integrated art elements that continue to shape the park's identity today.

39:47Speaker 11

Next slide please, thank you.

39:50 – 40:11Speaker 12

This is a proposed monument site view from the World War II monument. Locating the monument near the Dade County War Memorial reinforces the site's role as a place of reflection and shared civic memory. And next slide will show a site view towards Biscayne Bay. Thank you.

40:13Francisco Herretes

It's right next to the Noguchi Fountain as well, right?

40:16 – 40:51Speaker 12

It is. It is. Artists were asked to develop proposals that thoughtfully respond to both the physical conditions of the site and its broader cultural and civic significance. The project objectives prioritize inclusion, reflection, and intergenerational learning, positioning the monument as an accessible and meaningful public experience. Because the site functions as highly trafficked public park, designs must also be appropriate for continuous public use while honoring the black men who played a foundational role in the incorporation of the city of Miami.

40:53Speaker 11

Next slide, please.

40:58 – 46:17Speaker 12

Given the monument's proximity to Biscayne Bay, artists are required to carefully consider environmental conditions and long-term performance. Exposure to sun, salt, air, wind, and storm activity is a key factor in material selection. Proposed materials must be durable, safe for public interaction, and manageable from a long-term maintenance perspective, ensuring the artwork's longevity within a coastal environment. This image was offered to artists as a conceptual reference and point of inspiration, symbolizing unity, shared purpose and reflection, for proposals to remain rooted in the monument's core themes of partnership and historical significance. A complete list of all Incorporators, along with selected Incorporators' profiles, is available in both digital and printed formats upon request. Three artists have been selected as shortlisted artists during the last PAC meeting on December 16th. This is the first artist, Cesar Hinao. All works by, just to note, all works by shortlisted artists presented here are conceptual and intended to illustrate preliminary ideas, descriptions, and sketches. None of it is final. So this is example of Cesar's recent work, titled Aria Duo. In 2024, it was installed in Via Zone La Romaine. It pays tribute to the union of Emperor Hadrian and Empress Sabina through a structure composed 3,768 stainless steel tubes. It embodies the fusion of Roman heritage and contemporary form memory in motion. The reason, no, thank you, yeah. The reason Caesar provided extensive imagery and description of his previous work is because with two voices, one city, his proposal for this project, he proposes a monumental kinetic and parametric sculpture for Bayfront Park inspired by the city's founding moment in 1894. And the work would seek to honor historic act of civic unity through two sculptural forms. Distinct yet complimentary, symbolizing the foundational voices of the city, it is conceived as a space for reflection, recognition, and shared presence. Next shortlisted artist is George Sanchez Calderon. Sanchez Calderon's proposal calls for recreation of historic Florida vernacular architecture. The proposed house would be cast in bronze and have a rocking chair in the front porch for viewers and tourists to take photographs in. The artist's intention is that the contrast to the background will serve as a reminder of the tremendous growth that has occurred in Miami since it was first incorporated. On the west side, facing east, he proposed to cast the names of the individuals involved in the incorporation of the monument. This element of the sculpture will be more similar in design to the veterans memorial east of the Miami incorporation monument. And finally, the last shortlisted artist is Jorge Rodriguez Gerada. The artist's approach to this monument is grounded in remembrance, cooperation, and civic pride. Conceived as a lasting civic landmark, the proposed artwork intends to translate the legacy of the historic moment into a clear, dignified, and accessible sculptural form. The monument is intended to function both as a symbol of unity visible at a distance and as an intimate site of reflection, inviting close engagement through readable historical text and tactile materials. The artist spoke in detail about the material, so I'm also going to mention that as it seems important in his proposal. The sculptural composition rises from a solid base and culminates in two clasp hands, a direct and legible gesture representing partnership, shared responsibility, and collective identity. A reinforced cement structure would provide strength and durability, engineered to resist humidity, salt air, and temperature fluctuations, while cordoned steel cladding at the base introduces a warm, evolving surface that protects itself through a natural patina. Laser-cut steel panels would present names, dates, and historical references. The artist's pragmatic approach ensures the work's longevity while reinforcing its role as a permanent cultural and civic touchstone designed not only to endure physically for generations, but to remain relevant in meaning and public value over time. Since this artist's practice is highly versatile and with extensive experience working across a wide range of media, we're showing just a couple more of the artwork that he created or envisioned. His practice includes sculptural compositions, cast in bronze, carved stone works, and an extensive body of engraved pieces. Examples of his work include engraving design studies, such as on the previous slide. various murals that are inspired with engraved composition, and then the cast bronze sculpture, the hug, pictured right here that was recently installed. These are our three shortlisted artists selected by PAC members, and we ask for approval.

46:17Francisco Herretes

But the item says five shortlisted artists.

46:20 – 46:49Speaker 14

Up to five. Up to five, yes. Per code, the PAC may select up to five. We received about... We received eight proposals. We received, yes, eight interested applicants for this project, so the PAC felt that choosing three, the three stronger artists, would be a better fit for the project and a better way to handle the budget as well.

46:49 – 47:01Speaker 12

Probably also worth noting that these three shortlisted artists were selected in collaboration with representatives of black profiles in Miami. And it was a collaborative selection process.

47:03 – 47:17Olga Granda

Can I ask how long the call to artists was open? That it was such a small response? A month. A month? Yeah. And that's the standard? Yes. I just want to remind you to please always send it to us when there's a call to artists.

47:17Speaker 14

We shared it with multiple channels for this specific project. We were also surprised that we only received four applications.

47:27Olga Granda

And this was in December or when was it?

47:30Speaker 14

No, this was in, I believe it was October.

47:34Speaker 12

That was October.

47:36Speaker 14

Closed in October.

47:39Francisco Herretes

More about the artists. So you mentioned... Cesar Henao, Jorge Rodriguez. What was the other artist?

47:50 – 48:03Speaker 12

So we have Cesar Henao. We have George Sanchez Calderon and Jorge Rodriguez Gerada. I actually have their full proposals here with me if you'd like to take a look.

48:05Olga Granda

Are any of them local artists or are they all from outside?

48:08Francisco Herretes

Could you tell us a little bit about the artists?

48:18 – 48:43Speaker 14

And while Irina is looking for that, I wanted to add that at this stage, the board is approving the shortlisted artists, not the proposals. These are very preliminary. We will share with the artists the comments from the PAC and recommendations from the PAC and the community group, as we have quite a few comments and feedback from them.

48:44Francisco Herretes

When you mentioned, we're basically approving the list. We are approving the list. These are the three that are going to present proposals.

48:51Speaker 12

Yeah, that can work in more detail on proposing something that is very specific for the site and maybe even more catered to the goals of the project.

49:00Francisco Herretes

Oh, that for sure. Yeah, for sure. Okay.

49:05 – 52:08Speaker 12

César Hinault is a French Columbian sculptor whose practice explores the intersection of art, science, and collective memory. He says that his work is rooted in search for forms that embody perceptions, sensorial experience, and lived history. He is interested in monumental and kinetic installations to reveal the invisible tensions between past and present, individual and collective narratives. He was trained in Paris, graduated with highest honors under the chairmanship of kinetic sculptor Paul Burry, and have developed over two decades a sculptural and visual language based on light, movement, and material resonance. His studio is located in France and is dedicated to creating public artworks that engage with historical and social environments. That's our first artist. Our second artist, George Sanchez Calderon, he is, as far as I know, a Miami-based artist. His work is deeply rooted in relational aesthetics, emphasizing the interaction between architecture and the public. He often critiques the utopian ideals of modern architecture by highlighting the disparities between architectural intentions and their social realities. Through his installations, he invites audiences to reconsider the built environment and its impact on community and identity. He is a prominent figure in Miami art scene. He's played a pivotal role in shaping the city's cultural landscape. His works continue to challenge perceptions of space and identity, making significant contributions to contemporary art discourse. He was involved with branding the Wynwood Art District in 2003, launching Midtown Miami and being the first artist to exhibit in the city of Ball Harbor here in Florida. And our third artist, Jorge Rodriguez-Guerrera. is very prolific, as I mentioned. He has a very extensive resume. He has created artworks internationally. His murals are featured in Madrid. His monumental land mural, Wish, was exhibited at Belfast International Festival in Queens. As I mentioned, he worked with carved stone. He cast in bronze. He does, it really is worth seeing the land work where his murals are spread across 250,000 square feet in various locations. And you are welcome to take a look at the list of their works, each of them.

52:25 – 53:18Francisco Herretes

Since the call to artists was really open not that very long, is it possible for us to accept these three, because that's what we have right now, but try to or ask the PAC or instruct the PAC to continue to search for those final two? And maybe search for a local artist. I don't know. Try to cast a wider net. I don't know. Maybe to fill out the five. I don't know if you agree or not, or if you feel that we have enough with these three. I just feel that this is a historic project, and it's very important, and maybe the search for the right artist was too narrow or too short.

53:20 – 53:40Speaker 14

The topic was discussed at the PAC meeting. The PAC ended up recommending these three because they felt that these three artists could incorporate all the feedback that they have. And they were also selected in accordance with the profiles in Black Miami group and the community members that attended the PAC meeting.

53:41Francisco Herretes

Are there any Black Miamians in that group of three?

53:47Speaker 14

In the three artists? Yes. No.

53:51Maria Napoles

I was going to ask, actually, any of these three artists or anyone is local?

53:58Speaker 12

I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

54:00Maria Napoles

Any of the three artists chosen or chosen, are any of them local artists?

54:09Speaker 12

One of them is Miami-based, one of them.

54:14Speaker 14

And I believe, actually I believe Jorge. Jorge Rodriguez-Gerardo? Yes. As well?

54:20Speaker 12

So two of them are Miami based.

54:28Olga Granda

Do our other guests have anything to comment on this?

54:42 – 55:46Speaker 23

Good evening. My name is Keith Moore. I'm from Profiles in Black Miami. My address is 27820 Southwest 128th Place in Homestead. I'm listening to everything and everybody. But one thing we wanted to really stipulate in this monument that is essential is that each name has its race by it. Because on the charter, that is how it is listed. Each man's name has his race by it. That's a stipulation that we think is essential. If people came to see it and to recognize what it was, to see those names and their race by it. If I could say my personal preference, but out of the three artists was the one with the house and the rocking chair because it's close. It simulates the time that these papers were signed by these men in 1896.

55:46 – 56:09Speaker 11

Anne Marie Henry, Profiles in Black Miami, 720 NE 162 Street, Miami, Florida. like the second artist as well, Mr. George Sanchez Calderon. But I feel, I agree with you, that maybe we should cast a wider net to see if we can get some more local artists.

56:12 – 56:30Francisco Herretes

I mean, unless there's a problem with asking the PAC to just search for another two, since the original item already had five shortlisted, maybe we can search for another... If we find them, great. If we can't find them, then we already have three good ones, right? Three good selections.

56:32Speaker 23

If I could say one more thing.

56:36 – 57:24Speaker 23

The one with the hands, it's a beautiful concept that these black men and white men got together to help create a city. In actuality, there wasn't a togetherness like that at that time. The reason that the black men signed the charter Because in 1896, the state of Florida mandated that you had 300 registered voters in the area of Fort Dallas, as Miami was at the time, all incorporated into the city. There were more than 300 white people here, but some were women, and in 1896, women didn't have the right to vote. This is why these men were incorporated, so it wasn't a hey, brother, join us moment. That says that, but in honesty, it wasn't.

57:26 – 57:41Speaker 11

And it was more likely that they were kind of under duress because most of the black men that signed the corporation papers were actually workers of Henry Flagler's organization. So they had to.

57:41 – 58:12Speaker 23

And contrary to most belief that these 161 black men that signed the charter were Bahamians, as has been told, our research has shown us there were only two Bahamians. Most of these men were from the southern states of the United States. About four of them were born in slavery. So we even have former enslaved people of the United States that signed a charter to incorporate the city of Miami, which to me is history within itself.

58:15Juan Valadez

That's very helpful. Thank you. That's really, really helpful. Thank you.

58:20 – 58:57Francisco Herretes

That's amazing. Thank you for your opinion. Yeah, this is an important project, and it's going in a very relevant and important place of the city. And if it doesn't harm anybody, maybe we can open the call to artists to try to find another couple. And if not, we have a good selection already. The artists should definitely, I'm sure they're definitely listening to you and hearing all of these stories and the history, right? It's amazing.

58:57 – 59:54Maria Napoles

The matter of a sculpture, In South Florida, it's kind of very difficult because it involves funding and have to be very creative. We don't have, in general, and we have been through this for many years, a lot of artists that are really good sculptors. The financing has been always very tough to find it for them. So I feel that this is a good example already of what represents the sculpture artist in Miami. But if you as a chairman feel that we should have another artist call, I don't think that we're gonna get a lot of response.

59:56Juan Valadez

I'm optimistic, though, that a few might, that we'll get other proposals. All right.

1:00:03 – 1:00:30Francisco Herretes

I also will, I'll always defer to you, Ms. Napolis, regarding art, for sure. I'm just, I don't want to defer this, so I think that we should definitely approve these three, and they should start, you know, with whatever process, because the project needs to move forward. But if we can keep it open, and maybe the PAC, can find us another couple of local artists or people also that can, I don't know.

1:00:31Speaker 12

So basically handpick, PAC members to handpick and invite two more artists to submit proposals.

1:00:38 – 1:01:26Francisco Herretes

You know what, that should always be, and may I, if I can make this general comment, that should always be the, I mean, if the PAC can recruit a fabulous artist or a board member to this board, or another PAC member, a fellow PAC member, that's what we want, you know? That's exactly what we want. If it comes through a call to artists, and it comes organically, then fine, that's obviously a great way as well. But if, certainly, if the PAC has, you know, artists that they feel are relevant, that they feel could, you know, could be, they should invite them to these call to artists and say, hey, you should participate. Obviously, no preference or anything like but yeah, they should definitely be recruiting and trying to find these great artists.

1:01:27 – 1:02:00Juan Valadez

Would you agree? Yeah, and to that point, a name just came to me, a gentleman named Cornelius Tullock. So last name is T-U. You're familiar with him, Inge? Yes. Yeah. I think he'd be terrific for this project, so perhaps he's available. And Laura Novoa, who's on the... Pack would know him quite well from her years at bake house where he has a large studio there He was just showing me some recent work, and I think he'd be terrific Hopefully hopefully he's interested in available

1:02:03Olga Granda

So Indra, or I don't know, what's your name, please?

1:02:08Olga Granda

What would the process be if we did want to approve these three, but if we wanted to reopen somehow the call to artists? What are the options?

1:02:16 – 1:02:27Speaker 14

The board would move to approve the three selected artists and add a condition to re-issue the open call for another cycle, which would be another 30 days.

1:02:31Francisco Herretes

And we'd review it in the next meeting?

1:02:33Speaker 14

We would review it in March, because the PAC would meet in...

1:02:40Francisco Herretes

Yes, yes, understood.

1:02:42Olga Granda

Too soon to...

1:02:45Francisco Herretes

Okay. And could those three artists get started and present their proposals?

1:02:51Speaker 12

They could, but it's almost like if we're giving, you know, if we need additional time for the other artists, we're still, you know, they need to be evaluated all together, so...

1:03:01 – 1:03:14Olga Granda

Would it slow down the entire project to do that? Likely. Yes. Do we have any time constraints or...

1:03:16 – 1:03:28Speaker 14

This is an older project, but if it's the board's wish to move with reopening the open call to get a better selection of artists.

1:03:28 – 1:03:41Francisco Herretes

We approved the budget item, so there's certain parts of it that already can get started, right? I don't know. I'll defer again. I'll defer always when talking about art to my fellow board members.

1:03:41Juan Valadez

I think we should definitely reopen. Yeah? Yeah, I'm glad you proposed that.

1:03:46Francisco Herretes

Okay. And you wouldn't have an issue with that?

1:03:52Maria Napoles

I would like to have a vote on this, but if he feels he knows what he's talking about.

1:04:00Francisco Herretes

No, no, I know, I know. He knows, and you know as well, and so does Ms. Grande. You're all experts.

1:04:07Maria Napoles

If he feels that is.

1:04:09 – 1:04:45Francisco Herretes

there are opportunities to get more artists. Just listening to the gentleman, this is just such an important, seems as such an important project and historic significance that, I don't know, one month of a call seems a little bit short. Honestly, if you don't mind, I think that we should keep the call to artists open for an additional month. and move forward with all the budgeting and all the administrative and all of the other issues so that we don't lose too much time on this.

1:04:49Maria Napoles

All right. Is that okay?

1:04:52 – 1:05:04Olga Granda

I'm okay with that. I just want to please iterate that to please send us, you know, the board an email with the link to the call to artists specifically the moment that it goes out. Okay. Not a week before it's over.

1:05:04Francisco Herretes

Yeah, that's a good, like, always, just every color it is, as soon as it goes out, one copy goes to the members of the board. That's a good advice.

1:05:15 – 1:05:35Juan Valadez

And Indra, another gentleman, Reginald O'Neill from Overtown, Miami. Is this something where... If I share their emails with you or their cell phones, like you can directly? Yes, we can. It will be helpful. Okay, I'll send myself a note to do that, thank you. That's very useful.

1:05:40 – 1:06:05Francisco Herretes

So, I mean, I understand that we may not be gaining too much time, but we can certainly approve these three names today. Okay, so if that's okay, and if you can make a motion, we all agree we can approve these three names with the condition that we open it up for an additional month for two more names.

1:06:05 – 1:06:55Olga Granda

Okay, so AIPP Resolution 18567, I make a motion for a resolution of Art in Public Places Board pursuant to Chapter 62, Article 16, titled Art in Public Places of the Code of the City of Miami, Florida, as amended, approving the selection of the three shortlisted artists in accordance with Section 62658 of the City Code for the Integration of Public Art at Bayfront Park, located at 401 Biscayne Boulevard, making findings and providing for an effective date, and additionally opening a 30-day call to artists to seek out two additional shortlisted artists and come back before the board And that call to artists be shared with all board members of this board at issuance.

1:06:55Francisco Herretes

That's wonderful. Second? I'll second. Second by Mr. Valadez. May we have a roll call vote, please?

1:07:06Speaker 15

Vice Chair Olga Granda? Yes. Board Member Juan Valadez?

1:07:12Speaker 15

Board Member Christina Cuevo? Yes. Board Member Maria Napolis? Yes. Board Member Gary Feinberg? Chair Francisco-Jarretes.

1:07:22Speaker 15

Motion passes five to zero. Thank you.

1:07:35 – 1:08:14Speaker 14

Next item would be item number 10 on our agenda, file ID 18568, a resolution of the Art in Public Places Board pursuant to chapter 62, Article 16 entitled Art in Public Places of the Code of the City of Miami, Florida, as amended, recommending approval or denial to the planning director for an art installation by artist Ivan Roque as part of a public art condition associated with a warrant for a development located at 399 Northeast 82nd Terrace, Miami, Florida, containing a severability clause and provided for an effective date.

1:08:19 – 1:12:46Speaker 3

Good evening, commissioners. As you may remember, we reviewed this in our last meeting. But I'm going to go through it. I wasn't able to present, so I'll present around this time. And we have our slides. So this is a mural project for the Pelican Harbor Seabird Station. On November 14, 2022, the applicant submitted a request to the planning department for a community facility warrant to allow for a new development of this seabird station. The planning director, on December 21, 2023, approved that warrant with the condition that the project would have a mural on the exterior of this new development. On November 12th of last year, the applicant submitted an application to the Public Art Division for the installation of an exterior mural artwork on the project site for review and approval by the Art and Public Places Board. The applicant is requesting to install this permanent exterior mural on the New Pelican Harbor Seabird Station Community Facility, which is a world-class wildlife rescue, rehab, release, and education center. The proposed artwork, which you can see on the slide, is entitled Pelican Harbor Mural Project, and it measures approximately 35 feet tall by 93 feet wide, and will be located on the east elevation of the new facility. Due to the geographic location of the site, the artwork will be visible from public right-of-way on Northeast 82nd Street and the adjacent railroad tracks. The artist is Ivan Roque, and he was selected by the Pelican Harbor Seabird Station Board and the executive director for this project through an open call. The proposed artwork, which would be created by Cuban-American artist Ivan Roque, aims to capture the spirit and compassion that defines the Pelican Harbor Seabird Station mission. As stated in his application as a born and raised Floridian, an admirer of the state's diverse ecosystems, the artist is deeply inspired by the work being done at Pelican Harbor Seabird Station. The station's mission resonates with the artist, highlighting that he seeks to bridge nature, community, and storytelling. The artist wants the artwork to not only showcase the beauty of the animals the station treats, from pelicans and ibis, to blue jays, opossums, and squirrels, but also spark curiosity and engagement with the new facility. The goal is for every viewer to feel compelled to learn more about Pelican Harbor through the artwork and ultimately understand the importance of the station to the local ecosystem and to feel a deeper connection to the surrounding natural environment. What you see there, so if you could go one slide back, sorry. Those are examples of the artist's artwork at different locations. So in Venice, Florida, in North Miami, the middle one, and then on the right in Texas. This is a rendering of the proposed mural on the new facility. It will be made, I believe, using aerosol and latex. The mural would feature bright, colorful imagery that reflects Pelican Harbor receiver station mission. It would feature some of the animals the station helps, including pelicans, blue jays, and opossums. and a name, again, to spark curiosity in the new facility and encourage people to learn more about the station's work. The artist, I hope I'm getting this right, hopes the mural will help viewers appreciate the importance of Pelican Harbor and feel more connected to the local natural environment. from the application gathered that the mural should take approximately two weeks to complete and would have it done by around mid-January, with starting aiming towards late December, early January. That was an estimated date when they originally applied on November 12th for our previous meeting. And on the next slide, that's just a little bit bigger image of the rendering. And pursuant to the section on the code that applies to art in public places, the Planning Department Public Art Division recommends approval of the artwork. And if you have any questions for me, I'm happy to.

1:12:49Maria Napoles

This is the pass of the yellow train.

1:12:53Speaker 3

The Florida East Coast Railway has a track right on the east side of that.

1:13:00Maria Napoles

But not the yellow train.

1:13:03Speaker 3

The bright line? I believe the passenger trains do cross that track.

1:13:10 – 1:13:21Maria Napoles

A lot of working people, people that love art and really people that work in between the tri-countries. They go around there.

1:13:21 – 1:13:47Speaker 3

Yeah, if you, I can see maybe if you can go, yeah, if you go up one. I believe that is passenger rail, and you would be able to see it sort of very level, so you would get actually very good views. And then you have northeast 82nd Ave, which you're driving, so that's sort of the main arterial road, so you'll see it from there too, but it would be very nice, a nice addition to the views through the train for sure, I think.

1:13:48Maria Napoles

If this is Mrs. Keene District, right?

1:13:53Speaker 3

District 5, yes. Yes. It's in the Oakland Grove neighborhood.

1:14:01Francisco Herretes

Oakland Grove? That's kind of like a little river.

1:14:05Speaker 3

Yeah, what's the river there?

1:14:07Francisco Herretes

That little piece there.

1:14:11Francisco Herretes

This looks good. Yeah, it's nice. It's going to have a lot of visibility. Are you from the project? Oh, yes.

1:14:21 – 1:14:43Speaker 6

Good evening, Melissa Tapanes. I'm here with Chloe Schell and the artist, Ivan Roque. He is a local artist. We did do a call to artists in collaboration with Chairwoman King's office. We had 40 responses within a month, and as you can tell, it was very successful, 40, 4-0.

1:14:44Francisco Herretes

How did you get 40 responses? What did you do right that we're doing wrong? What can we do better?

1:14:54 – 1:15:32Speaker 6

What was important to Pelican Harbor was to make sure we wanted a local artist. We wanted the vibrancy of the local ecosystem to be shown. And we worked hand in hand with Chairwoman King's office. So she was able to blast our call to our artists throughout the community. And Mr. Roque has done work in District 5 as well. So it all worked out. But we did receive much response. So I think it's working with email blasts, social media.

1:15:32Francisco Herretes

It was very active. You were active online.

1:15:36Juan Valadez

It's two dimensions versus three dimensions, too, which opens it up a little bit.

1:15:40 – 1:15:57Maria Napoles

To answer to Mr. Sherman is that that particular commissioner office works very diligently. That makes sometimes a big difference when a commissioner office is really involved with the community. And I would say it's a collaboration.

1:15:57Speaker 6

Pelican Harbor is community, District 5 is community, so working together, that's really what...

1:16:05Maria Napoles

It's very proactive with the community, and that makes a difference.

1:16:09 – 1:16:59Speaker 6

That as well as the community organization. Pelican Harbor Seabird Station provides a service that's really extraordinary. It's enough for a lawyer like myself to be honored to represent them pro bono, right? And assist them with this development because their work is so important to us all. And so I think everyone was mentioning that this is The FEC right-of-way, that is the Brightline. It is tri-rail. It's very exciting to have. If I could connect, which I'm not able to do, but I can show this around. You can see the building as it is today and what it'll look like with the elevation. So it's really spectacular to see the impact of art and how it could really change just people driving on their commute.

1:17:00Juan Valadez

Wow, great. Thank you. What was your budget for this?

1:17:14Maria Napoles

Yes, I know the area very well, yes. Before, yes.

1:17:26Francisco Herretes

You mentioned that because it's two dimension and not three dimension sculpture, then it's easier to get a larger response.

1:17:34Juan Valadez

But I'm still thinking strange to eight. I mean, that's really unusual. That's strange. Yeah. But anyway, it's going to be rectified.

1:17:43Francisco Herretes

No, no, I'm just, you know.

1:17:46Juan Valadez

Please. Please, yeah.

1:17:51 – 1:18:07Speaker 24

So yes, we did Chloe Chels. I'm an executive director. And we did all the channels Melissa described. But we also were lucky enough, we got an article about it in the Herald and talked about this project and everything. And I think that really pushed things.

1:18:09 – 1:18:40Maria Napoles

that Bayfront Park is so visible and you know such an important site too so maybe it's worth yeah I think that's a great point some PR for this Bayfront Park project as well at the same time it's not the same to create a mural than to create a sculpture we're talking two different ways of producing art so evolve art much more work.

1:18:41Juan Valadez

It's two different mediums. Yeah.

1:18:46 – 1:19:07Juan Valadez

Ben, thanks for the work you do. I've brought you all a bunch of birds over the years, like kestrels and screech owls and warblers and all that stuff. I'm always bringing you injured, because people bring it to, I'm a bird watcher, so people bring me, they show up at my door holding a falcon or something. I take it to you all. So thanks. Thanks for everything.

1:19:08 – 1:19:23Speaker 6

And they've got great programs, including one that if you have a nice garden in your home, they'll bring a box and an owl so that you can... I was able to do that, and it was really made 2025. It was so cool.

1:19:25Olga Granda

Wait, say that again? You bring an owl to somebody's house?

1:19:28Juan Valadez

No, a nesting box.

1:19:30 – 1:19:59Speaker 24

A box for them to nest in. We have an owl program. Sometimes if we have... Babies that are ready to be re-released, you can sponsor an owl box, and we'll come and bring one to your house and install it and put an owl inside. We don't guarantee that it will stay there, and sometimes they do become bee hives. But the intention is that, yeah, it's the place for the owl. It's sort of a soft release, and they go back into the wild.

1:20:02Francisco Herretes

What a great mission, yeah, for sure.

1:20:05 – 1:20:57Speaker 24

We were founded in 1980, so 45 years. And this project is nearly complete. We've got furniture coming in a week. We're just dealing with some utilities conveyance delays, but it's all up and running soon. Yeah, so our current building is 950 square feet. The county built it for us in 1992. This is almost 8,000, so it's really a huge project. We'll have an entire room the size of our current facility just devoted to education on the second level, looking out over the little river. We do have a phase two of the project, which is building out all the pens in the pool, so we won't be fully operational for, I hope, within a year. But the building itself is nearly finished, so it's really exciting. We'll probably have a soft opening maybe in April.

1:20:58Juan Valadez

That's gonna be awesome. Yeah, congrats. Thank you.

1:21:00Gary Feinberg

And it's right near the loft as well, right?

1:21:04 – 1:21:42Speaker 24

It is. So there's a huge, there's South Florida Water Management actually owns a waterfront there, and it's a large, it's an area for a lot of manatees to congregate, especially when the weather cools off. Are you doing anything with that land around it? We have a relationship with them where we'll be able to, people will be able to walk on the land, but we have to let it be theirs just in case there's some sort of emergency and they can get trucks there, but. The waterfront itself will not be fenced, so it's open to the public. And the organization itself, we're open to the public every day of the year, even now, so you can come anytime, basically.

1:21:47Francisco Herretes

It's a great mission, and the art really brings it together. Can you explain a little bit about your selection and your process?

1:22:00 – 1:24:01Speaker 27

How's it going, everybody? My name is Ivan Roque, you know, born and raised here in Miami. So, you know, all these animals have pretty much been a part of my life as well growing up. You know, I remember growing up, we would always go out to the Everglades or we'd go out to the islands, you know, and so, you know, that's a beautiful thing, especially in the Old Miami, as I like to say, you know, I think there was much more greenery around than the tall buildings that we've gotten so used to. So, you know, when I applied to the project, you know, Chloe invited any of the artists that wanted to go check out the facility. And it's crazy because, you know, I remember we would go through our boats out there all the time in 79th Street. I didn't know that Pelican Harbor was right across the street. And when they showed me the facilities and the missions and everything, you know, I learned so much. And it was such a, I was so inspired that, you know, I basically wanted to incorporate every single element that what they stood for. You know, so I believe this right here, well, my work in general, like it, Like the vines mainly, they kind of represent... Sorry. Sorry. I'm having a newborn very soon, so it's like my mind's all over the place. But yeah, so basically, it represents a connection between us all, the energy, and that's just kind of what I wanted to capture within my work and the movement. And that's why you see all the animals that they treat. Animals that are local to our environment, also with the native flowers as well, and the mangroves. So I wanted to create something that's just... very engaging and like everybody said, as we're passing by, in the street or to the trainer and everything. It's something that you want to almost freeze time and really take a moment and enjoy it. And especially, a lot of people will go to the manatee cove that's right in front of it. It's a very serene location. From time to time, I'll spend my time there looking at the manatees and them playing. And so I think it's just a great way to incorporate it to the area, this mural in particular.

1:24:02Speaker 3

So yeah, that's basically what I got going.

1:24:10Speaker 27

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it can be. It really can.

1:24:12Speaker 20

Yeah, it's a good idea.

1:24:14Speaker 27

Copyright that stuff, man. Yes, I have a...

1:24:20Maria Napoles

I know your work.

1:24:21 – 1:24:36Speaker 27

Thank you so much. I'm so happy to hear that. Yes, yes. I've been very fortunate to be able to create, be a Miami muralist, you know, and I try to, whenever I go across the nation or across the world, I try to bring our culture to theirs as well. So, you know, it's always a beautiful thing.

1:24:38Speaker 1

You're welcome.

1:24:39Francisco Herretes

Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Beautiful.

1:24:44 – 1:25:18Olga Granda

Okay, are we good? So I'd like to make a motion to pass AIPPB 18568, a resolution of the Art and Public Places Board pursuant to Chapter 62, Article 16, entitled Art and Public Places of the Code of the City of Miami, Florida, as amended, recommending approval of the planning... to the planning director for an art installation by artist Ivan Roque as part of a public art condition associated with a warrant for development located at 399 Northeast 82nd Terrace, Miami, Florida, containing a severability clause and providing for an effective date.

1:25:21Francisco Herretes

Second by Ms. Napoles. May we have a roll call vote, please?

1:25:25Speaker 15

Yes. Vice Chair Olga Granda? Yes. Board Member Maria Napoles?

1:25:31Speaker 15

Board Member Christina Cravo?

1:25:34Speaker 15

Board member Gary Feinberg. Yes. Board member Juan Valadez. Chair Francisco Giritas.

1:25:42Speaker 15

Motion passes five to zero.

1:25:44 – 1:26:30Francisco Herretes

Thank you. Looking forward to that. And also looking forward to the other project. I just may, I said it wrong. It's not that we're doing things wrong. But there's a lot that we can learn from the process from, you know, a successful process like from Pelican Harbor. If we can be more active, proactive in reaching out to artists. I know we have a communications department. If our call to artists, why isn't the communication department maybe blasting out a notice, trying to get this on at least social media, but certainly, you know, if we can try to get it on other types of media, maybe, you know, an article here or there could be helpful.

1:26:30 – 1:27:19Speaker 14

Yes, as part of my updates to the board today, I was going to share changes that we've made now that we have staff and help to share these open calls and do artist outreach. We now have established successfully an artist database. It's being fed through our AIPP website, so artists can opt in into our program and receive notifications when we release those open calls. We currently have 200 artists. We've collected 200 artists in our database. We also have device communications plan, internal and external, so we are working with the Office of Communications and other municipalities so they can help us share those open calls as well.

1:27:20Francisco Herretes

Is Ivan on your list?

1:27:21Speaker 14

Yes. All the artists that have applied to us in the past are on our list.

1:27:26 – 1:28:02Francisco Herretes

So do you think that we can get, specifically for this project in Bayfront Park, do you think that we can get something from the communications department, some sort of communication, you know, rolling out so that people can know that there's a call to artists? It's important. I know that this is a sculpture and it's more difficult, but it also has a pretty big budget attached to it. So there, there should be resources enough for, for, you know, artists to, to, and it's so prominent. It's next to that fountain. It's amazing.

1:28:02 – 1:28:23Maria Napoles

I honestly think one of the things that couldn't happen with this artist called It was so close to Basel. Everybody gets so involved. That also happened, yes, yes. So really out of mind when Basel is coming that I don't think a lot of artists were paying attention at all.

1:28:24Olga Granda

That's true as well, Ms. Napolis, that Basel may have... Do you have the various collectives like Oolite, Bakehouse, Fountainhead? You have all of those?

1:28:33Speaker 14

Yes, we've compiled the list of everything now.

1:28:37Speaker 20

Oolite is even nearby.

1:28:39Francisco Herretes

They're opening nearby as well. Anyway, any lessons that we can learn from the good process, we'll take. Thank you very much.

1:29:08Francisco Herretes

Why, budget-wise, what would it be? A million?

1:29:11Speaker 14

Probably. Yeah.

1:29:12Speaker 20

Well, if we don't search for it, if you don't ask, we don't know.

1:29:25Francisco Herretes

Exactly. All right. So can we then see the next items, please?

1:29:32 – 1:31:08Speaker 14

So the next item would be item number four, a resolution of the Art in Public Places Board pursuant to the are in public places master plan and program guidelines approving the re-election of Catherine Cathers, Adler Garrier, and Laura Novoa to serve as voting members of the AIPP Board Professional Advisory Committee for an additional two-year terms containing a severability clause and providing for an effective date. Some background, the Professional Advisory Committee, the PAC, supports artist review and selection under the Art in Public Places Master Plan and Program Guidelines. Each PAC is composed of four voting members. Three members are permanent voting members appointed by this board for two-year terms, and one member is project-specific appointed by this district commissioner. Our current members are Catherine Cathers, Adler Guerrier, and Laura Novoa. PAC members are required to have professional background in the arts or related field. Here is a snippet of that section of the master plan. This PAC has been very successful at performing their duties as screening artist submissions, providing clear and professional feedback, and making consistent recommendations to the board, this resolution would approve the reelection to serve for an additional two-year term for these three permanent members of the PAC.

1:31:11Juan Valadez

Injury, you've been happy with all three of them, right? Yeah.

1:31:14 – 1:31:36Speaker 14

Yes, I think it's been very helpful to the program. All three are very good at showing up for PAC meetings. Now that we've standardized the PAC process, it's being run similar to the board, so the agendas are being published. We have a section for public comment, so...

1:31:37 – 1:32:04Francisco Herretes

The PAC meetings are improving over a month, so you could you could copy copy the board on all of that on all of the communications Okay, you know I don't think there's sunshine on that Excuse me including the committee Yeah, the PAC. Just to include us on all those PAC communications.

1:32:04Speaker 20

I'd have to review the master plan to see exactly how it speaks to it, and the sunshine laws as well.

1:32:11Francisco Herretes

I just want to be informed, so if possible, and if it's a violation of sunshine, obviously not.

1:32:18Speaker 20

I'll look into it, Chair. Thank you. Thank you, yeah, for the next one.

1:32:22 – 1:32:39Francisco Herretes

I've asked for this several times now for the members of the PAC They don't have to come at the same time. And we're already re-electing them, which I definitely agree with. But when are they invited to come, and when are they going to come to the board?

1:32:40 – 1:33:05Speaker 14

So it was discussed at an earlier board meeting that the PAC would have a joint meeting. So that joint meeting would have to be advertised. And one of the conditions was that it would be a lighter agenda for that joint meeting. As you can see, today's agenda was pretty long. But we can certainly arrange for that for February or March, most likely March, because of the advertising.

1:33:07Francisco Herretes

And why the complication with the advertising? They can't come and we can't ask them some questions here?

1:33:17Speaker 14

So both meetings have to be advertised and scheduled for the same.

1:33:20Francisco Herretes

But why? This isn't a PAC meeting. It's a board meeting. We're inviting them.

1:33:23Speaker 14

But it would be considered a joint meeting.

1:33:30 – 1:34:30Francisco Herretes

I don't understand why. I think maybe somebody can explain that to me. It doesn't have to be now, but... Yeah, to attend so we can get to meet them and we can talk about the process, what's working, what's not working. Yeah, in a public capacity, but to talk here in public. I don't know. That's exactly my question. I don't know if that formality... We are... Because they're not going to be determining any issues related to their role as PAC. They're not going to be selecting anything. They're not going to be performing their role. What they're going to be doing here is we're going to meet them for the first time and discuss with the board on what's working, what's not working, what can improve, how we can make a better call to artists or... There's a number of issues.

1:34:31Speaker 14

So I've been advised by RCM that it can actually be done via discussion item.

1:34:38 – 1:35:17Francisco Herretes

Perfect, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think we're going to resolve anything. That's good, yeah. Okay. I think one of the things that we want, we've talked about today, is that we need to be a little bit more proactive. And that's with Call to Artists. That's with, you know, getting members of the pack here so we can have a, you know, a back and forth and we can, you know, advance on some of these items. It's about getting, for example, Freedom Park. You know, we've asked, I don't know how many times for updates and information and Freedom Park people here.

1:35:18Speaker 14

This has, well, the request has been shared with the applicants as well.

1:35:23 – 1:35:49Francisco Herretes

Well, yeah, but I've requested it for the past six months or more. And so... At what point is the applicant just not paying attention to what the city board wants? This is a board of the city of Miami. We have a mission. We have a function here. And as the chair of the board, I'm asking you to invite Freedom Park to attend one of our meetings because we have to ask them questions.

1:35:51 – 1:36:38Francisco Herretes

Yeah, but it hasn't happened in six or seven months. So what are we waiting for? Who do we have to talk to to make it happen? They're a city project. They need our approval. For some reason, this thing is being built and they haven't come to us for our approval yet. So their permits are already going out and they haven't complied with the public art requirement. So I'm asking as the chair of the board, I'd like them to come here and explain to this board why there's an ordinance and there's a law that says that there's a public art requirement and there's a process before permits, etc., And none of that is being followed. So we don't have an update from you, from staff. None at all. Not one single update.

1:36:38Speaker 14

I've provided updates to the board at past meetings. I've also provided updates to the board.

1:36:43 – 1:36:54Francisco Herretes

I'm sorry, Indra. Do any of my fellow board members, do any of you have any information about Freedom Park? We don't. All that I hear from staff is that there are no updates.

1:36:54 – 1:37:05Speaker 14

We've provided updates as discussion items in the past with the permit numbers, the stages of each permit, and after that, the request was to extend an invitation.

1:37:05Olga Granda

I know I missed October, but November, December, and here, this has not been brought up and it has not been in the agenda the past two meetings.

1:37:14 – 1:37:51Francisco Herretes

there was no meeting in december but in the in the past and it was deferred but it was not on the agenda if i'm not bringing it up or if mr feinberg isn't bringing it up that he has in the past staff is not bringing it up you're not mentioning it you're not keeping us updated i'm asking you for example right now they already have permits because i see the trucks going in and they're building like they've leveled the place they're building a whole stadium They have everything. So explain to me how that happened and staff still doesn't have a permit.

1:37:51 – 1:39:29Speaker 9

So we have been in contact with the applicant and working through a formal AIPP submission with them over the past couple of months. We have not yet received a formal submission. We do anticipate We do anticipate at this time receiving a partial payment for AIPP and working through what will be a, will hopefully be a site master plan that then will come before this board for approval and that will be the implementation of the public art and it will not, our hope is that it will not just encompass the stadium and the retail but also look at the city park and the outside of the administration building. And that is so that we can ensure that there is cohesive public art throughout the entire project. Additionally, we are working on a release of a call to artists for the administration building. So these things are moving forward. Most likely you did not receive an update in November and December because we have been in direct communication with the applicant and have been prepared actually in hopes of bringing a PAC item forward in those months and an AIP action item for you guys in the months, in those months, and that has not kind of come to fruition. So every time we're ready, every time you ask, we're like, okay, great, we're gonna have an action item for them and then that kind of slips through. So we understand your concerns.

1:39:29Francisco Herretes

Why is this project... Sorry to interrupt. Why is this project moving forward and the AIPP ordinance is not being followed?

1:39:38 – 1:39:51Speaker 9

So the... How are the permits issued without the public art requirement being resolved? So they have to meet the AIPP requirement by the time the master permit is issued, and that has not been done.

1:39:56Speaker 9

It's a phased permit, and so the master permit has not been released yet.

1:40:01 – 1:40:24Francisco Herretes

I'd like to ask the city attorney, please, to provide an explanation for the process and how it's being followed for the Freedom Park, specifically for the Freedom Park, regarding permits and timing and the public art requirement and the application of the public art ordinance for Freedom Park.

1:40:25Speaker 20

We'll look into it, Chair. Thank you. Thank you.

1:40:27 – 1:40:40Olga Granda

Can you just, you referenced a master plan that would include the city park, the city administration building, and so who is in charge of that? Is it the city? Is it the Freedom Park, the developer? Is it together?

1:40:41Speaker 9

Yes, it would be in conjunction together. There would be a steering committee in place to guide that project.

1:40:47Olga Granda

A steering committee that is composed of both city people and park people.

1:40:52 – 1:41:04Speaker 9

Yes, like a real steering committee. It would have representatives of the leasee, the commissioner's office, city, local artists, city staff, of course, and the public art board.

1:41:04Francisco Herretes

So where is that in our ordinance? Where is that process in our ordinance? So we're doing something very special for this project, are we not?

1:41:12Speaker 9

Yes. I think that it is a special project in general because it is a public-private partnership which we've only ever done one before.

1:41:21 – 1:41:32Francisco Herretes

But legally, where in the law does it say that we can follow this amended process for this project? I'm asking...

1:41:33Speaker 20

I'm not familiar with the project in its entirety as much as the staff is, but it's something we can look into.

1:41:39 – 1:41:54Francisco Herretes

If we have some sort of new committee that's formed between the lessee and the city and they're making all these decisions and we're not being advised. This is obviously something that's being done outside of the public art ordinance.

1:41:55Speaker 9

Nobody has been appointed to any committee or anything.

1:41:58 – 1:42:22Francisco Herretes

You're just suggesting that you're going to create a new steering committee. My question is, where does that come from legally? Why are we doing that for this project? Is there some legal reason that we're making an exception? Or does all the projects that have lessees with the city, do all of them have a steering committee where the lessee is participating in the city? I mean, who's

1:42:23 – 1:42:58Speaker 14

I believe in this case, the steering committee is for a public art master plan on the site. That public art master plan, as proposed by the applicants, would be reviewed and approved by this board. So the board will still review the master plan. It's a master plan identifying areas of opportunity for public art because it's a large site to make all the art possible. cohesive and responsive. It'll also have guidelines to engage local artists as well. But that would be approved.

1:42:58 – 1:43:30Francisco Herretes

Do we have a process already in place where we have a professional advisory steering whatever committee that is making the artistic decisions for the city of Miami? Don't we already have that in place? So why are we creating a new steering committee for the lessee? There should be the PAC, This same pact that we're renewing today should be reviewing this with one member from the commissioner's office, right? Because that's how we organize all of these projects.

1:43:32 – 1:43:51Speaker 9

So it's my understanding the past precedent, my understanding is the past precedent for a public-private partnership like this is that the leasee has been allowed to pick their art and the way that they've done their call for artists and then submit it to the PAC for approval and then AIPP for approval. So using that format, that is what we're going by.

1:43:52Francisco Herretes

I don't recall any of those.

1:43:55Speaker 9

My understanding is there's only one and it's from like 2019.

1:43:58 – 1:44:23Francisco Herretes

Well, let's bring it out and let's see because what I'm seeing is that we're following an entirely ad hoc process for Freedom Park. We're not being informed. and again, if you're already having conversations about creating a new steering committee where they're going to decide and this decides, and I mean, we're obviously not following the process.

1:44:23Speaker 9

Ultimately, the PAC and ultimately the PAC and this board will approve the master plan or ask for changes within that master plan.

1:44:34Olga Granda

But nobody from this board, there will not be a request for a representative from this board to be on the steering committee.

1:44:40Maria Napoles

Yes, typically there is.

1:44:41Olga Granda

There will be.

1:44:43 – 1:45:21Maria Napoles

Is the Freedom Park is going to be or is going to have a trust like Bayside Park? No. So whatever they decide on public art, at least that's the way I feel because of many years working on this. One representative of this board should be in all those meetings. I'm I'm not saying that we are all going to be there, but at least one representative of this board should be in those meetings. Is that allowed or not?

1:45:23Speaker 9

I believe, yes. I mean, typically when you appoint a steering committee to a master plan, there is a representative of the board that is appointed to that steering committee.

1:45:34 – 1:46:21Olga Granda

And you just have no understanding of the timeline, because, you know, I think part of what chair is seeing is that we're seeing the stadium go up, we're seeing the city administration building go up, so, like, we're seeing all these things happen, and it feels like, you know, we're going to get asked at the very end to approve something, and then we're going to have no ability to, you know, like... have any real influence because everything's going to be built already and it's going to be like okay this is the only thing that fits because everything is already done for example that idea of the after the fact is what is frustrating to this board for sure when there's been all this time i think you've asked like how can we participate how can we be a part of this so that it is so that the multi-faceted components you know can come together and we can be part of that in a bigger picture and not just like ask for a final we share your frustration

1:46:22 – 1:46:56Francisco Herretes

This is the largest art project in the city of Miami since we started the board seven years ago. What does the commissioner of this district say about the project and the public art fee? What is the commissioner's position about the public art fee, the timing of the payment, the setting up of all this, the PAC, and everything else? What is the commissioner... What is the commissioner thinking about the project as it relates to public arts?

1:46:56 – 1:47:44Speaker 14

I believe the applicants have reached out to the commissioner's office for these discussions regarding the public art master plan for the site. So the commissioner is involved in these conversations. And I did want to clarify that the city administration building is being handled internally by us. So we will be releasing a public open call to artists for that one, most likely at the end of this month, for the interior of the building. The exterior, the areas of opportunity would have been a sculpture building. So we believe that might as well integrate that into the public art master plan for the site as a whole so that it's cohesive in the integration of public art.

1:47:44 – 1:47:56Olga Granda

So just to reiterate, this month, you are about to issue at the end of this month, today's January 12th, so within the next two weeks, you're going to release a call to artists for the interior of the city administration building.

1:47:57 – 1:48:17Speaker 14

That is the plan, yes. And that has been in collaboration with the architect as far as the selection for the areas of opportunity, opportunities for the admin building. So that is also aligned with the building's construction schedule.

1:48:17Olga Granda

I want to reiterate what I've said before. Please, we would like to receive that call to artists the day it goes out. Okay. Thank you.

1:48:24Francisco Herretes

What is the total of the public art requirement for Freedom Park?

1:48:29Speaker 9

Including the city park and the administration building?

1:48:32Francisco Herretes

The whole thing. What's the total?

1:48:35 – 1:48:55Speaker 9

I think we're still waiting on some of the buildings to come in, in terms of the leases, because I don't think that we've received all the tenant spaces. But we'll get you an estimate. And so we do have the, I do want to point out that the administration...

1:48:55Francisco Herretes

Sorry, you see my question, how basic it is? And we don't have an answer.

1:49:02Speaker 9

Not yet. So I can't tell you the...

1:49:05 – 1:49:23Francisco Herretes

So it's a basic question. We don't know what the total public art requirement is. It should be like that. It's more than $25 million, or it should be more than $25 million. That's a lot of money for investment. Yeah, it's... Well, what's 1.5% of whatever the cost of all?

1:49:23 – 1:49:39Speaker 9

So I do know that for the administration building, you know, those are city funds that we do have. The park funds are sitting with the city as well. And so then we are anticipating a payment for the stadium and the parking garage.

1:49:39 – 1:49:50Francisco Herretes

Yeah, well, it's, I don't know, how much is the budget times 1.5%? When Efren was here, we made the calculations and, you know, we discussed it was $27, $28 million. Yeah. So what is it now?

1:49:53Speaker 14

We will get back to you with that exact. I understand.

1:49:55 – 1:52:11Francisco Herretes

I just want to make a note for the record. I'm asking what the amount is in January. You guys are going to call the artists in two weeks. You say you've informed us and that we're up to date. Sorry, let me finish. And you don't have a number, not even an approximate number. I want that for the record because again, when Efren was here, Eight months ago, we were already talking about an amount. So after eight months or nine months to come back and say that we still don't know, you're going to get back to me? Okay. Get back to me, please. My point with the 27 or five or whatever number of millions of dollars is it's a tremendous opportunity for the city of Miami. And nobody is talking to the, at least none of this board and none of the PAC, are talking to the developers to see what we can accomplish with that. We're not coordinating with the commissioner's office to see what we can accomplish with that. I'm asking how much it is, not so much to know exact amount, but if it's $28 million, you're telling me they're going to put $28 million in one site? And that's the best use of the public art fund? The biggest amount that we're ever going to get? And we're going to put everything in one site? How does that make sense? So the commissioner's not even taking some of that money and putting it into another park in his district or in another area of the city of Miami? It's all going into one site? I mean, I don't know. That doesn't seem to me like the most effective way to leverage that contribution. I guess you can spend the whole amount in one location, but I don't know if that would be the best way to use it. The thing is, we can't have that discussion with the developer, because they never come, and we're not having that discussion with the commissioner's office either. We're not having, so, you know, it's basically going to end up being whatever the developer wants, and they're going to come, and they're going to say, okay, this is how we're going to do it, and, you know, It may be too late.

1:52:12Speaker 14

Can we have somebody from the commissioner's office here? What was that? Can you repeat that, please?

1:52:19Gary Feinberg

Can we have a representative from the commissioner's office?

1:52:22Speaker 20

Can you speak into the microphone? I'm sorry.

1:52:26Gary Feinberg

Next meeting, can we have a representative from the commissioner's office here?

1:52:30Speaker 14

We can request that.

1:52:31Gary Feinberg

Is this Cabela? Yes. So can we have his deputy?

1:52:35Speaker 14

We will request that from the commissioner's office.

1:52:41 – 1:52:52Francisco Herretes

Okay. And put it in the agenda as a discussion item. Okay. So it's included in the agenda, even as a discussion item for the next meeting. But that's a good idea.

1:52:52 – 1:53:11Gary Feinberg

I think it was like six months ago that I asked that I went in writing to get on the agenda in advance of when the agenda was being published to get an item that we could discuss. And it was rebuffed and I was told we're not ready. This was over six months ago. So it seems like we've just lost it.

1:53:14Olga Granda

Do you know the budget of the interior of the city administration building that you're about to release?

1:53:19 – 1:53:36Speaker 14

We are waiting for the final budget from the developer. Sorry, from the architect and the construction crew. But it is about, I want to say around $4 million.

1:53:44Francisco Herretes

3.7. 3.7 is what? The construction costs? The AIPP fee for the admin building.

1:53:49Olga Granda

Just on the city admin building.

1:53:53Francisco Herretes

Yeah, no, there's significant amounts.

1:53:56 – 1:54:11Gary Feinberg

So there's $4 million for the interior of this building and $300,000 for a monument at Bayfront Park. I mean, that seems like a crazy amount of money for the interior of this building.

1:54:11 – 1:54:30Francisco Herretes

It's not an effective way of using the resources of public art. It's just not. You know? Obviously, we can't decide it for them, but it would be good to speak with the commissioner's office because maybe they have a better plan and how they could use it for the rest of their district and the rest of the city.

1:54:32 – 1:56:10Francisco Herretes

One of the problems that we have with the public art requirement, phase one, is that the only way we can get anything into the public art fund is already specifically tied to a property, to a construction. If it's a park that we're putting in a million dollars, then we have $15,000, which is 1.5% for public art. And that public art, because the funds are very limited, they obviously go into that park. Sometimes we even have to complement or public art funds have to come from parks and rec or anything else like, for example, this Bayfront Park. This is the time where we get an excess of $20 million. Just for the city building is $4 million, so let's say in excess of $20 million, and we're not thinking in terms of what is the smartest use of that money, not for the lessee in that project alone, but for the city of Miami. What's the most efficient use? Where can we put art worth $28 million to improve the city of Miami? And what we're doing now is we're allowing the developer, little by little, step by step, to make all of the calls And it seems as though they want to put the entirety of the amount into one building and one site. And that's just not a good... I don't know, use of the funds.

1:56:11 – 1:56:38Speaker 14

I do have a list of the current building permits for the Miami Freedom Park, and it totals 5.9, roughly 5.9 million. That includes the stadium master, the stadium plaza, garage, the roads, internal roads, trailer plant, building H, and building E, too. As the other building permits come in, those fees will be calculated as well.

1:56:39Olga Granda

So 5.9 is just for what you listed?

1:56:41Speaker 14

That's correct.

1:56:42Olga Granda

For the developer only?

1:56:44Speaker 14

Yes. So this is for the building permits associated with these areas.

1:56:51Olga Granda

For the 3.7 for the city building, is there already a requirement that the entire amount has to be spent on the building?

1:57:01 – 1:57:28Speaker 14

The entire amount, and I have to double check that entire amount. I will share that with you with the open call. The construction, the contractor will be sharing that final amount with us because they're dividing it into zones of opportunity. But it does not have to be spent within one building or one project. I believe the funds can be spent somewhere within the district where the project is located.

1:57:29Olga Granda

Because to the chair's point, it is a lot of money to spend on the interior of a city administration building when, you know.

1:57:37Juan Valadez

It's not very public. It's not public art. Yeah. As Gary pointed out.

1:57:43 – 1:58:04Olga Granda

But I feel like that number should be discussed prior to an open call. Because if you release an open call that says this is the budget that our artist has. then that's already assuming that that entire money is available to only be spent on the building. That's right. Which is our challenge, is that, like, it's like, you know, you do it, and then we, it's too late, you know.

1:58:04 – 1:58:25Francisco Herretes

I don't feel that anybody is brainstorming about how to use this money effectively, you know. Nobody's brainstorming. They're just waiting for the developer to come up with a plan and, you know, but there's no, like, You know, we have it, yeah, we have an opportunity here and, you know.

1:58:26 – 1:59:29Speaker 9

Your point is well received and that is specifically why I asked for a site specific AIPP master plan that would have community input as well as your input and your final approval. so that if you were not if you thought that the amount of money being spent in the areas of opportunity there you could then limit that as per the master plan and you could make those final decisions so i think your point is well received and part of the reason why this site is special and is different And I do want to remind you that the entire amount of money, the entire 1.5%, is not all fully dedicated to actual art. So part of that money goes to public outreach and education surrounding public art. Part of that goes into our... Yeah, we know the buckets. Okay, so I just... Yeah, we know the buckets. Just as a reminder, only about 60%, 65% actually goes to art.

1:59:30 – 1:59:55Francisco Herretes

For next meeting, please, we'd like an accurate budget. $5.9 million is approximately $400 million in construction. I understood it was significantly more than that. But let's get a budget so we can plan and we can say, okay, if it's this much or that much or, you know, the next permits is going to be this much so we can see and we can start brainstorming about this.

1:59:56Speaker 14

We will provide you a budget breakdown and the building permit numbers associated to each one.

2:00:02 – 2:00:21Francisco Herretes

For a discussion item next time, please invite the representative from the deputy from the commissioner's office. And if the developer wants to come as well, you know, we can start talking about how we're going to allocate these funds. Okay.

2:00:21Olga Granda

Coming back to the 3.7 on the city administration building, do we have any power to discuss that call to artists prior to it going out?

2:00:30Speaker 14

If the board chooses to review it and provide feedback, yes.

2:00:34 – 2:00:46Francisco Herretes

The first feedback is that it can't be $3.7 million spent. So really, to define the scope of the call to artists, we kind of have to walk through all of this, right?

2:00:46 – 2:01:14Olga Granda

Yeah, so can I make a motion to... put a hold on that call to artists until we have had the opportunity to review what you're saying, you know, these buckets that you say the contractor's going to give and, you know, because I feel that 3.7 million on the interior of a single project for a call to artists is, that's insane. I think this board should review those call to artists before they go out.

2:01:15 – 2:01:27Gary Feinberg

Pelican Harbor mural was 22,000. I mean, the interior of that building is probably not going to be as much space as they've allowed it for that mural.

2:01:28 – 2:01:46Francisco Herretes

No, no, for sure. And it's just not a good use of the funds. To make a call to artists that way is just... We're not ready. We need to understand the scope of this first. Somebody needs to start thinking about this more with a planning point of view instead of...

2:01:49Olga Granda

So is that enough to have you bring it to the February meeting?

2:01:53Speaker 14

Well, so the request is to bring the call to artists as a resolution item to the board for approval prior to releasing it.

2:02:04Juan Valadez

Specifically the budget, yeah.

2:02:06 – 2:02:22Olga Granda

Yeah, the budget and how that, you know, give us opportunity to divide that budget or discuss with the commissioners how, how that could be divided or alternatives. Yeah, not just here's a call to artists approve or deny. How do we have a discussion about it?

2:02:22 – 2:02:59Francisco Herretes

I don't think we're even close to a call to artists. We have no idea. No, but that's crazy. No way we're issuing that in two weeks. We have no idea of the scope. Were you going to issue a call to artists for $4 million? Well, obviously, that's not accurate. So we're not ready for a call to artists. Next meeting, we should discuss, bring everybody that you can, the city commissioner's office, the developer, et cetera, so we can start talking about how to do this smart. Nobody has thought about this. Honestly, nobody has given this any brainstorming, any thought.

2:03:01 – 2:03:31Gary Feinberg

I was hoping this could be the chance where we could break away from just the idea of identifying opportunities. You know, we have this bathroom door we can cover with art. That's how we operate. As opposed to looking at a much bigger picture, looking at the city and doing some real thought around how we can sort of present Miami in a much, you know, in a different way. as opposed to just always identifying opportunities. I think we just need to shift our thinking and how we approach a project or multiple projects.

2:03:31Speaker 20

I would just like to mention that we are limited to the master plan and the board should think within those bounds, but I understand your concern.

2:03:41Gary Feinberg

Well, this Freedom Park seemed to be maybe an opportunity where we could sort of branch away a little bit, but it seems like we're being sort of pigeonholed again.

2:04:00Juan Valadez

Okay, so is there anything else we need to say to pass? Do you want to make the motion?

2:04:17 – 2:05:12Olga Granda

I know, but I just want to make sure that we've completely closed this. Okay, so on this item, are we clear that all three members want to continue? Yes. Yes. They have all, okay. Okay, so then a motion to pass AIPP Resolution 18745, Resolution of the Art and Public Places Board Pursuant to the Art and Public Places Master Plan and Program Guidelines, approving the re-election of Catherine Cathers, Adler Garrier, and Laura Novoa to serve as voting members of the AIPPB Professional Advisory Committee for additional two-year terms containing a severability clause and providing for an effective date.

2:05:16Francisco Herretes

Second, Mr. Valadez this time, Ms. Napoles. Thank you, Juan. May I have a roll call vote, please? Vice Chair Ogagranda?

2:05:32Speaker 15

Board Member Juan Valadez? Board Member Christina Cuevo?

2:05:42Speaker 15

Board Member Gary Feinberg? Board Member Maria Annapolis?

2:05:51Speaker 15

Chair Francisco-Jarretes?

2:05:55 – 2:06:06Speaker 15

Motion passes four to one. I'm sorry, five to one, I'm sorry.

2:06:06Francisco Herretes

Five to one? Five to one, correct. Now I think we can discuss the, if you want the...

2:06:15 – 2:06:31Olga Granda

Okay, so I guess, Can I ask for direction on how to pass a motion to ask that the call to artists be brought to us regarding the 3.7 city administration building be brought to us prior to being issued? Is that all I need to say or?

2:06:34Speaker 20

You can make a directive to the department, to the public art team to take that into consideration, yes.

2:06:43Olga Granda

Okay, so it doesn't have to be an official motion. That's our directive. Yes. Yes, we ask for this to come before us, before a call to artists is issued.

2:06:51Francisco Herretes

And we all support that, by the way.

2:06:54Christina Cuervo

I would make a motion. Make a motion asking that the board is asking for it to be brought here. We all support it. Yeah, I'll support it.

2:07:04 – 2:07:20Olga Granda

Okay, so I want to file, I want to pass a, you know, request a motion that the city administration art and public places component be brought to this board in advance of any kind of call to artist.

2:07:23Francisco Herretes

Or the Freedom Park project and the administrative building.

2:07:25Olga Granda

Just for the, specifically for the city administration building.

2:07:28Francisco Herretes

The city administration.

2:07:29 – 2:07:41Olga Granda

What is ready to now, what you said is now ready to go out. That needs to come before us before there's a call to artist issue to the public. Okay.

2:07:41Francisco Herretes

Second. I'll second it. Second by Ms. Cuervo. Sorry. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. None against.

2:07:51Olga Granda

And then I guess the second thing would be... No, no.

2:07:55Francisco Herretes

That was like an ad hoc resolution, just directing, please, the staff to follow that.

2:08:00 – 2:08:14Olga Granda

And then the second directive is that we receive a further update on the larger Freedom Park master plan committee and process at the next meeting.

2:08:20Speaker 20

Just to clarify, these directives are for the public art team to provide an update on those two directives that you've mentioned.

2:08:28 – 2:09:46Francisco Herretes

Yes, and the budget as well, and also not just for the public art division, but also for the city attorney's office. I'd also like kind of like a summary of the Freedom Park process with regard to its permits and the building permits, the master permit, and the public art requirement. She mentioned that the public art requirement was before the master permit, I'm wondering if, does it say that? Or does it say permit only? Is it referred to building permits and master permit? I mean, I kind of want an explanation for how it works with regard to Freedom Park, what the status is. Yeah, I think it should be any permit, but I do wish to understand how is it so advanced already and it still hasn't come before this board? And so I'm wondering the legal justification for that. And so please, if you could. So do you have any other ad hoc items? No? No, no, no. Those are important. I think that was very good. Vice chair?

2:09:48Speaker 15

If you can please repeat and to make it clear so I can write it verbatim, please, because this is a vote.

2:09:54 – 2:10:10Olga Granda

The initial motion is to direct the staff of Art in Public Places to bring any call to artists specifically for the city administration building to this board for approval before releasing it to the public.

2:10:11 – 2:10:28Speaker 15

Call to artists to bring it to this board? Board for approval. Second directive.

2:10:28Olga Granda

And the second directive is an update on the Greater Freedom Park Master Art Plan.

2:10:36Speaker 15

Update on Greater Art.

2:10:41 – 2:11:00Olga Granda

Master Plan for Freedom Park with budgeting timeline from the legal process for the greater Freedom Park public-private partnership.

2:11:00Speaker 15

Legal process, budgeting. Timeline. And timeline, you said?

2:11:08Speaker 20

The legal process within the art master plan, correct?

2:11:12 – 2:11:41Francisco Herretes

Well, the legal process of the construction project. So how it starts, when they, you know, when they submitted their first, you know, permits or whatever, what they actually pulled to start the building that they've already started, you know, where we are in the process, and how was or wasn't the public art ordinance applied, you know, correctly to that project.

2:11:42 – 2:11:54Speaker 15

And this is all falling under the resolution of number four? No, it's its own resolution. This is actually... This is a discussion that you guys voted on.

2:11:54Francisco Herretes

This is actually like an ad hoc resolution. Like we're coming up with this right now. It wasn't in the agenda, but it was proposed by one of our directors.

2:12:04 – 2:12:15Speaker 15

It's actually like a discussion and then it's brought up and it will become a resolution. Oh, okay, okay. So it's a discussion item being created. It'll be in the minutes. Thank you. Thank you.

2:12:21 – 2:12:43Maria Napoles

I have a question. Is this idea of artist's call, bringing to the board first, is that contemplated in our master plan?

2:12:45 – 2:13:20Francisco Herretes

I think it's more than about selecting the artist in this case. we're asking to bring the Call to Artists to this board for our review and approval before it's going out to the public because we want to understand the scope of this first, right? We want to say, okay, how much money is going to go to this project? And what's it being looked, what is actually, how are we going to create this Call to Artists, right? This is a little bit more because

2:13:21Speaker 20

Typically, it's just to call the artist and to select the artist.

2:13:23Francisco Herretes

So that's not the reason.

2:13:26 – 2:14:01Olga Granda

It's exceptional because of the value, because it's $3.7 million, and it's a city administration building. So while I understand that the commissioner of the district has certain purview, I mean, this is a citywide project, right? This is supposed to be for everyone in the city. And so it's such an exceptionally large budget that I think that it requires far more participation from this board than, you know, the $100,000 to a par or, you know, probably what, $300,000 is probably the largest project that we've approved so far.

2:14:01Francisco Herretes

Yeah, no, this is... You know, in that range, I mean, this is... This would be the largest.

2:14:05Olga Granda

So I think that it requires more thought and process.

2:14:09 – 2:14:22Francisco Herretes

And it's to design that call-down. to say, okay, this is how much money we're going to dedicate to this, this is how it's going to be spent, and this is the type of art, and this is, you know, kind of design what it is that, you know.

2:14:23 – 2:14:55Maria Napoles

But again, the budget of how much an artist can spend in one particular project. It's going to be a lot of large discussions here because I don't think not all of us are really knowledge about how much an artist can spend in one particular sculpture or in one particular piece of art.

2:14:57 – 2:15:10Olga Granda

Right, that's, yeah. We don't dictate the specificity, but we give the overall budget. All right. Right, so the budget is already set at $3.7 million. We didn't set that. That's the number that they gave us.

2:15:11Maria Napoles

Isn't that right? This has always been this way.

2:15:14Olga Granda

Right. And so I think that my personal opinion is that that's a lot of money for one call to artists.

2:15:21Olga Granda

It's to just say, okay, you know, bring proposals for $3.7 million.

2:15:25 – 2:16:24Maria Napoles

It's not about the call to artists, it's about the project itself, right? It's the scope. But talking about the Freedom Park, yes, I do agree it's a huge project. And I think that we should all get together with these people. the developers, because in the commission, because in general, what's happened with these people, with such a huge project like this one, they are looking more like for international artists. This is the point here. And we're supposed to give them some piece of that, of that apple, that pie, to the locals. And in that particular I think I agree on that. But in general, for small projects, it's going to be a long process if we're gonna get involved with the budget.

2:16:24Olga Granda

No, it's just this one.

2:16:25Maria Napoles

Okay, okay, now.

2:16:27 – 2:17:00Francisco Herretes

It's this one, just so that we can, and we're not even, just to interject, we're not gonna decide what type of art or anything like that in this meeting. This is to discuss the scope. Really, there's 3.7 in the budget. Is it all gonna be used in one city building? Or maybe the city decides to use it in different city buildings. I don't know, but that's what we have to discuss. Before there's a public call to art, it's for $3.7 million going out the door.

2:17:02 – 2:17:21Maria Napoles

My main concern, I think, is what concerns all of us as a board, is that some part of that money should go to the locals. So certain projects should be to the locals. If not, they will try to bring a lot of international artists.

2:17:24Francisco Herretes

That's a good point, that's a good point. Another item to discuss?

2:17:29Olga Granda

What is the next?

2:17:30Francisco Herretes

The next item is number five, is for a substitute.

2:17:34 – 2:18:50Speaker 14

Item number five is file ID 18744, a resolution of the Art in Public Places Board of the City of Miami, Florida, pursuant to the Art in Public Places Master Plan and Program Guidelines, authorizing Rochi Yaneza to serve as an alternate voting member of the Professional Advisory Committee in the event that a permanent member is unable to attend, making findings containing a severability clause and providing for an effective date. This is... This item is brought to the board as a housekeeping item. If the board recalls, in 2024, the end of 2024, a resolution was made to approve the selection of Laura Novoa, Catherine Cathers, and Adler Guerriere as the PAC members, and the board suggested that Rochi Yaneza served as an alternate member of the PAC. In conversations with legal, we are bringing this to you via a separate resolution as this is not incorporated into our master plan. So we're formalizing Roche to serve as an alternate via a standalone resolution.

2:18:53Francisco Herretes

Have we ever needed to use an alternate?

2:18:56Francisco Herretes

And what do we do then?

2:18:58Speaker 14

But we had been using Roche, but we are formally asking for... Good.

2:19:03Francisco Herretes

Okay, no, just understanding. Perfect.

2:19:06Speaker 1

Good? Good? Yeah. Yeah.

2:19:08 – 2:19:34Olga Granda

Okay, so I make a motion for AIPPB 18744, Resolution of the Art and Public Places Board of the City of Miami, Florida, pursuant to Art and Public Places Master Plan and Program Guidelines, authorizing Rochi Yaneza to serve as an alternate voting member of the Professional Advisory Committee in the event that a permanent member is unable to attend, making findings containing a severability clause and providing an effective date. Second. Second.

2:19:35Francisco Herretes

Second by Ms. Napoles. All those in favor say aye.

2:19:40Francisco Herretes

No against, thank you.

2:19:44Francisco Herretes

Just a quick question. Are we current with all of their payments, the PAC?

2:19:48Speaker 14

Yes, so the PAC members get paid per open call and they are submitting the invoices and we process the invoices accordingly.

2:19:56Francisco Herretes

Thanks. So number six, right?

2:20:03 – 2:22:12Speaker 14

Yes, item number six, file ID 18184, a resolution of the Art in Public Places Board with attachments pursuant to chapter 62 entitled, chapter 62 article 16 entitled Art in Public Places of the Code of the City of Miami, Florida as amended approving the removal or modification of a public art piece by artist Carola Bravo at Antonio Maceo Park new field restrooms located approximately at 5135 Northwest 7th Street, making findings containing a severability clause and providing for an effective date. Background on this project and on this request. In July 2024, the Art in Public Places approved a total allocation of $15,000 for public art associated with the new restroom facilities at Antonio Maceo Park, In November 2024, the board selected artist Carola Bravo as the finalist for the project in accordance with Chapter 62, Article 16 of the City Code, the Public Art Master Plan and Program Guidelines via Resolution AIPP R24017. The artwork memory lines is a mural installed on the exterior of the new restroom facilities at Antonio Maceo Park. It was completed in August 2025. Following the installation, staff received feedback and concerns regarding the artwork's content. Staff has met with the artists and the District 1 Commissioner. to discuss next steps and staff has offered alternatives such as signage to clarify the concept and possible modifications to the artwork. Following conversations with stakeholders, the artist provided a new proposal and modifications to the artwork. At this point the board is also being asked to consider removal of the artwork. This is a letter submitted by the artist.

2:22:19Francisco Herretes

What do you mean removal? What was approved, what's different?

2:22:24Speaker 14

I have different slides, yes. Do you want to read the letter now or after?

2:22:28Francisco Herretes

Letter after, let's see the visual.

2:22:32 – 2:23:46Speaker 14

So some background on the artist. Carola Bravo is a Venezuelan-American artist and professor based in Miami, Florida, known for her site-specific words. and urban interventions that explore sense, memory, and shifting territories. She holds a PhD in architecture and currently teaches at Florida International University. Her work has been exhibited internationally as part of several notable public art and private collections. For this project, Bravo's proposal aimed to honor Antonio Maceo, a leader in Cuba's independence movement, as a way to reflect on his history and its relevance to our shared future. Rooted in the cultural fabric of Miami, the work aims to create a powerful connection between Maceo's legacy and the diverse communities surrounding Antonio Maceo Park. By placing a meaningful mural in the public space, the project aims to foster civic pride, encourage dialogue, and enrich the community's everyday experience, highlighting the pivotal role of public art in a building. So this is the artwork approved by the PAC and the board.

2:23:48Francisco Herretes

And the commissioner's office.

2:23:50Speaker 14

Yes, there was a member of the commissioner's office at the PAC meeting.

2:23:54Francisco Herretes

So PAC, community, commissioner, and the board.

2:24:02 – 2:24:15Speaker 14

These are images of the artwork while the artist was producing it. And the final work is, there are no professional photos yet, but it reflects the rendering, the larger image on the slide.

2:24:16Francisco Herretes

So why are we removing this?

2:24:20 – 2:25:12Speaker 14

The public art staff received feedback from the commissioner's office regarding concerns with the message behind the artwork, with the concept of the artwork. So that's why the artist's letter was provided to the board. Okay, so was there text? The text on the mural reflects direct quotes from Antonio Maceo. That's not what the concern was. The concern was mostly related to the fact that the artist used abstract geometry to reference views from a monument in Santiago de Cuba. So because of that possible connection to that monument.

2:25:13Olga Granda

Like what is the offense that people find?

2:25:18 – 2:25:36Speaker 9

The monument in Cuba was commissioned by Castro and paid for with Communist Party funds is my understanding. And so... That reference is what members of the community have found objectionable.

2:25:37Gary Feinberg

How many complaints?

2:25:41Speaker 9

I can't speak to the number of complaints.

2:25:44Maria Napoles

Here in Miami, that is very sensitive, so it's understandable. Was there a joint letter? The options.

2:25:53 – 2:26:05Speaker 9

The concerns were given to the commissioner. The commissioner's office brought us the concerns. So they lumped all the concerns together and that was what was reiterated to us.

2:26:07Olga Granda

Okay, so even though Antonio Maceo was prior to the revolution, the monument was built after the revolution, after the communist revolution.

2:26:17Speaker 14

The current monument at Santiago de Cuba was built after the revolution, correct.

2:26:25Olga Granda

Okay, and so that's what this looks like.

2:26:31Francisco Herretes

But sorry, the artwork in Cuba is still art, right?

2:26:35Speaker 14

The artwork in Cuba is art, and it's a monument.

2:26:38 – 2:26:52Francisco Herretes

But it was commissioned by a person in history, and so people have taken offense to that? After it's already painted and approved by the commissioner's office? The commissioner's office has taken offense to that.

2:26:54Francisco Herretes

Who's going to pay for this?

2:26:57 – 2:27:26Speaker 9

So... That's a great question. Commissioner, I would assume, right? You can allocate funds. If you do not allocate public art funds to the decommissioning of it, then it would either essentially sit until it is painted over, and those funds would either be other funds by the city or the commission's office to paint over it, or it would just fall into disrepair.

2:27:26Francisco Herretes

Personally, I think it turned out pretty cool. but that's my personal view.

2:27:34 – 2:27:45Juan Valadez

Sorry, is the commissioner passing along these grievances, or the commissioner themselves would like it removed?

2:27:48Speaker 9

I would say all of the above.

2:27:49Speaker 14

I think all of the above. All of the above.

2:27:52Francisco Herretes

Okay. Has Carola Bravo come up with an alternative?

2:27:58Speaker 14

Yes. Now can we read her letter?

2:28:00Francisco Herretes

Can you show it to us?

2:28:01 – 2:29:28Speaker 14

Did you want to read the letter? No, no. Show us the visual, please. Okay. So in conversations with the artist in the commissioner's office, the artist proposed an alternative mural referencing feedback received in those conversations by stakeholders. The new mural will be at the same locations It's a mural inspired by a map of the Mangos de Baragua historic site in Baragua protests in Cuba, not in Havana. Beneath the shade of the iconic mango trees, General Antonio Maceo and his fellow commanders rejected the Pact of Sajon. Refusing the acceptance of peace that did not grant Cuba full independence, their stand became a defining symbol of courage, dignity, and unwavering commitment to the freedom. So here is a little bit more on the inspiration behind the proposed mural. She's also proposing to incorporate quotes from Antonio Maceo as she did in the initial mural. This is part of the process images. It seems like it's referencing the site itself and abstracting the site from an aerial view and creating a map in an abstract way.

2:29:31Francisco Herretes

An aerial view of a place in Cuba?

2:29:34Speaker 14

Of the site where that specific pact happened. Yes, a place in Cuba.

2:29:42Francisco Herretes

Has this been vetted by the historic, you know, whatever committees and... Are we sure that this doesn't offend any sensitivities?

2:29:51Speaker 14

This was also provided to the commissioner's office, her entire second proposal. Yes.

2:29:59Christina Cuervo

Did she meet with the commissioner? And did they come up with this concept together?

2:30:03Speaker 14

This was the guidance given in that meeting for her to explore this site as a modification to the artwork.

2:30:11Christina Cuervo

Can you go back two slides where you were describing what the mangoes?

2:30:17 – 2:30:28Juan Valadez

Do we know if Castro had a preference for mangoes? And that might come in too.

2:30:33Olga Granda

I hate to ask this, but did you say Carola is not Cuban?

2:30:38Speaker 14

Carola is not Cuban.

2:30:39Maria Napoles

Venezuelan. Venezuelan. And she's good, by the way, as an artist.

2:30:44Francisco Herretes

Very good and nice and everything. And I think that that first version is pretty cool.

2:30:50Gary Feinberg

In her first version, her... What's her text that explains it? Does she reference this monument in Santiago de Cuba?

2:30:58 – 2:31:22Speaker 14

So her first version, she, yes, and she, what she was referring to and her letter clarifies is the views, an abstraction of the view created by that monument in Cuba. So she, since she already uses abstract geometry as her graphic language. That's how the concept was.

2:31:22Gary Feinberg

So this is an aerial of that.

2:31:24Speaker 14

It's a framing. No, it's not a mural. It's framing the views. Abstract geometry.

2:31:30 – 2:31:49Francisco Herretes

So, I mean, there's a current conversation and things that are happening in the world. I mean, if the U.S. I mean, you think that if the U.S. went into Cuba right now, they would destroy that art piece? Because Fidel Castro commissioned it or something? I mean, it's just... I understand their sensitivities.

2:31:50Christina Cuervo

Are you really asking that question? Their sensibilities, but... With everything that's happened in this country, with the sculptures in this country? Come on.

2:31:57 – 2:32:12Maria Napoles

My concern is the artist's statement. Come on. The artist's statement, as you said, it was handed to the commissioner. So he didn't see it as she explained it?

2:32:12Francisco Herretes

It was very clear. It was inspiration from this monument, and it had the silhouette of the monument, and then it had it exposed against the building, and it's very clear.

2:32:22 – 2:32:42Olga Granda

I think the challenge is that the monument is to Antonio Maceo, who is somebody from the 19th century. And so that's what we were kind of focused on, and that's what she was focused on. But that particular monument was built in 1991. And so that's the issue that these people have.

2:32:42 – 2:33:06Maria Napoles

So I understand that, because it really implies myself. We're doing business here. This is not personal. So my concern is if the artist already handed to the commissioner her artist's statement and he approved it.

2:33:06 – 2:33:23Gary Feinberg

Yes. And also in her letter she says it's important to emphasize that my mural has no connection whatsoever to the artist who designed the Santiago monument. I mean, the public doesn't understand what they're saying. They don't understand what they're looking at.

2:33:23 – 2:33:45Christina Cuervo

So how much money are we talking? I mean, listen, I think that it may not have any connection to the artist, but it has a connection to the sculpture. And that is the offense that obviously the commissioner has taken and he's articulating. I respect if that's his feeling and If we can come up with an alternative.

2:33:45Gary Feinberg

But I wonder how many people are affected by this. I mean, we're talking about thousands.

2:33:49 – 2:34:00Christina Cuervo

Oh, this is such a, I mean, are you really asking this question in Miami after the last 60 years that we've lived here and what we've gone through and how passionate the Cuban Americans are?

2:34:00Francisco Herretes

You're absolutely right. The thing is that this was already decided by the commissioners office. I agree.

2:34:05 – 2:34:54Christina Cuervo

And so what I don't know, I don't know the answer to whether this was presented to him before or not but maybe he didn't understand because when you see the sculpture and you see this mural you see the direct correlation you see the connection and so he may not have known it at the time but I do believe that you know we're here and I have been a big proponent that you know I want the district commissioner to be on board with the artwork that's going forward because you know what there could be nothing if we we push something that the district commissioner doesn't want. I mean, we're here to be collaborative, and we want the commissioners to support what we're doing as well, and why this is important. Even going back to the Freedom Park discussion.

2:34:54Gary Feinberg

But this is a new commissioner, isn't it? Who is the commissioner? Commissioner Gabela. It's the same. No, isn't it Rosado now?

2:35:01Christina Cuervo

No, this is District 1. It's District 1. I understand.

2:35:06Francisco Herretes

He changed his mind. That's okay. Somebody took offense to it. Maybe it's not that he changed his mind.

2:35:10Speaker 9

Maybe he didn't understand.

2:35:12Francisco Herretes

Somebody took offense and I wouldn't, but they did and that's fine. He changed his mind.

2:35:16 – 2:35:38Speaker 9

If I can add a little bit of context. The artist spoke at the ribbon cutting for the mural. And she explained the inspiration behind it and the reference to the monument and that it was funded by Kaisho. During that. It's my understanding that multiple people during the ribbon cutting then approached the commissioner.

2:35:41Francisco Herretes

Poor Carolina. Poor Carolina Bravo. But she's coming up with an alternative.

2:35:45 – 2:35:56Christina Cuervo

She's coming up with an alternative. No, that's fine. That's fine. I agree. I personally prefer this, but I understand the offense taken. So let's try to embrace it and work with her to come up with something else.

2:35:56 – 2:36:23Francisco Herretes

I will have no problem embracing it. The only thing is that, as we know, because we're talking about Freedom Park and all this, our funds are very, very limited. So to repeat this is to take money from some other projects. This is the exact, this is a perfect example, District 1, of a project that could very well use some of that $3.7 million. That could go into this, and then it doesn't have to come to this.

2:36:24 – 2:36:48Christina Cuervo

I agree, but that's a different issue, which I completely concur with, and I think that that's the whole message about Freedom Park and the 3.7 or the 5.9, is that it has a much broader reach that we can be impacting and have a greater impact on the community by master planning that use of those funds. But how do we pay for this one? Well, I mean, this one hasn't been paid for.

2:36:48Speaker 9

So the original mural was installed in paper. To do it over. The other alternative is just to white it out.

2:36:58Gary Feinberg

They don't like what this is, just they can have a white building.

2:37:02Francisco Herretes

Well, no, I mean, we want art, but it's just how... Well, they had art, and the art exists behind the white.

2:37:08Gary Feinberg

So there's a statement here.

2:37:11Olga Granda

There is a very good... We have a request from the commissioner to replace it with this other piece. Is that correct?

2:37:19Speaker 14

We do not have guidance from the commissioner to replace it with the... As a practical matter...

2:37:23Olga Granda

So the mango, I thought you said the mango piece came from a discussion with the commissioner.

2:37:29Olga Granda

So she sent it directly to you, but the commissioner has not seen the Mango project?

2:37:33Speaker 14

They have also seen it. We have shared it with the commissioner's office as well. The directive was to proceed with decommissioning this one.

2:37:41Olga Granda

Okay, so then we do have the support of the commissioner.

2:37:46Speaker 14

To decommission the blue one, the one that's already installed?

2:37:50Speaker 14

Or the other one? No, we do not have that support yet. We have not received any guidance or any feedback on that.

2:37:57Olga Granda

Yeah, you just said that they received, that they met it, and they received the Mango project.

2:38:04 – 2:38:18Speaker 14

They approved it. You just contradicted yourself. No, they did not approve that. They did not approve that. We forwarded the modified proposal to the commissioner's office. They have not approved that. Okay, well. So there's no comment from the Mango.

2:38:18Francisco Herretes

What are we asking the board to do to decide today? To do what? To paint it over white?

2:38:23Speaker 6

Is that what you're asking?

2:38:25 – 2:38:37Speaker 9

So we've been asked to decommission the piece of art. It is at your purview whether you can grant that, deny it, or defer it. What does that mean?

2:38:38Francisco Herretes

Decommission this piece?

2:38:39 – 2:39:33Speaker 9

So that essentially means that as a public art, we will no longer maintain that piece and that at any point it can be removed. We won't insure it. We're not going to maintain it. It is not part of our collection. It will not be listed as part of our collection. And it can be painted over. You can defer the item if you would like and ask for, I mean, you can send it to your PAC. You can ask for more input from the commissioner's office. You can ask for whatever you want during that deferral. I believe city code allows you to defer it for, for one meeting, and that's kind of it. And then you can, of course, deny the decommissioning. You could say, we don't want to decommission it. We like the mangoes. We're going to approve that. No, no, no. I just want to clarify.

2:39:33Olga Granda

So the commissioner has not approved the mangoes, but he has supported the decommissioning. That's correct.

2:39:38Speaker 9

That is what has been indicated to stop.

2:39:39Gary Feinberg

Can we ask for the public to come to the next meeting to discuss this with us?

2:39:45Speaker 9

You can defer it for continued public outreach or for public comment.

2:39:52Francisco Herretes

Guys, this was deferred in November or in December. Sorry, November, right?

2:39:57Francisco Herretes

In November and December. In the meantime.

2:40:01Speaker 9

And it was continued in... We were asked very quickly to put it on an agenda.

2:40:06Francisco Herretes

We complied with that.

2:40:08Speaker 9

And then we tried to work through with solutions.

2:40:12Francisco Herretes

But it doesn't seem that staff has... There's a solution.

2:40:19Christina Cuervo

Can I just ask a question? What has the commissioner specifically asked? What was the specific request? What's before us is to remove or modify. What did the commissioner ask?

2:40:30Speaker 9

So the last conversation that I had with the commissioner's staff was that it should proceed for decommissioning tonight for your discussion. Okay, but that's not the item before us.

2:40:40Christina Cuervo

The item before us is to remove or modify, not to decommission.

2:40:44Speaker 9

So that is to remove. Decommission is to remove. Okay, then.

2:40:52Francisco Herretes

It seems to me, again, that we're being asked early.

2:40:55Christina Cuervo

Are you saying that the commissioner's office doesn't want anything in its place?

2:40:59 – 2:41:38Francisco Herretes

You guys have to talk to the commissioner. We have. Figure out what he wants. Wait, figure out what he wants. Figure out if he's going to approve Carola Bravo's thing first, before it comes here back, and then Say, listen, commissioner, we already paid X number of dollars for this. We don't have it in the budget. Do you have extra funds? Can we ask parks for funds? What can we do? Because decommissioning, yeah, we can decommission. We can leave it like that and forget about it. Or paint it over white. But that's not what the commissioner wants. So what are we even doing here? The commissioner obviously wants something there in its place. No? He wants it painted white? Then let's paint it white.

2:41:39 – 2:41:50Christina Cuervo

And come back to us with a plan how it's going to be funded. And then we can really talk about it because I think we're talking in abstract here. Completely in abstract. How about the artist? Did the artist come back?

2:41:52Speaker 9

The artist has been paid for the original mural.

2:41:55Francisco Herretes

We already invested, and it's there. The result is there. Now, if we want to decommission, that's okay.

2:42:01 – 2:42:12Olga Granda

I think we should pass a motion to decommission it, and we should figure out funding and do a new call to artists. I don't think it should automatically go to Garuda.

2:42:12 – 2:42:41Christina Cuervo

I would make a motion to defer this item and to come back to us with a clear directive in terms of what the commissioner wants If it's decommission and paint it white, decommission and put something else there, what is it that would be, and then how is that, what is the proposal to fund that? That's what I would like to hear. And if the item is just, oh, just decommission because he doesn't care, then, I mean, I want to know that, but I don't want us considering to modify something that...

2:42:41 – 2:43:04Speaker 9

Okay, so my understanding is that, and I just want to make sure that I'm getting this... so that I can make sure that I ask the correct questions. The question is, the preference has been decommissioned, so would he like it painted white or for another project to be implemented? And if so, where is that funding coming from?

2:43:05 – 2:43:19Christina Cuervo

I mean, my motion is to defer it and get a clear direction from the commissioner what they want in this location. Agree. And what would be the proposal to fund whatever that alternative is, if there's an alternative. Sure. And you know what?

2:43:19Francisco Herretes

Staff should come up with a plan. You guys should be coming up with a plan and proposing that to the commissioner and saying, Commissioner, this is what we're going to do.

2:43:28 – 2:44:18Speaker 9

So I would like to say that staff has put forth two alternatives at this point. And that was one was to modify the language that was included as signage on it, modifying the story. However, the story was told during the ribbon cutting and modifying the signage we were told was not sufficient. We then coordinated a meeting with the artist and with staff so that we could get feedback on potentially modifying it. The artist worked on modification, came up with a budget and proposed that to the commission office. That was given to them and when the only feedback that we have received was to proceed tonight with a discussion for decommissioning the art.

2:44:19Olga Granda

Right, so I think there's a clear directive of what the commissioner wants, which is to decommission it.

2:44:24Christina Cuervo

Right, but to decommission, but then don't come to us with a proposal to replace it with something else. Because that's not what's before us.

2:44:57Speaker 27

This is communications. You have to turn on your microphone.

2:45:00 – 2:45:16Francisco Herretes

Staff needs to determine exactly what that is before we discuss it. Because if not, we're just discussing in the abstract. Maybe he likes Carola Bravo's new proposal. Maybe he can find funds. Maybe there's another solution. I don't know.

2:45:17 – 2:45:29Olga Granda

What I'm hearing from staff is that he wants it decommissioned, and he needs more time for the next step. So he's asking for step one now, and he'll come back. Is that what... You're saying?

2:45:29Speaker 9

I don't know that there will be any coming back. I do not know that.

2:45:33Olga Granda

He's just asked for step one, period.

2:45:37 – 2:46:05Speaker 9

Again, we were asked very quickly to put this on an agenda, which is why it appeared very quickly on your agenda. And with the title for modifying or removing the piece of art, we were hopeful that in the meantime, we would be able to work out a solution. We have worked through the solutions, which we have shared with you. The direction that I received from the commissioner's staff was to proceed with decommissioning the art. If you're not happy with that, then...

2:46:05 – 2:46:23Francisco Herretes

I'm not happy, but I don't understand what decommissioning means. Destroying. Destroying. Okay. Destroying. But that's not what this says. Then why did you write this as remove or modify? So he wants it to remove. Okay. Well, is that clear? Or modify.

2:46:24Juan Valadez

Well, modify shouldn't be in this language then, correct?

2:46:27Speaker 9

So it is to modify or to remove the art.

2:46:33Juan Valadez

What modification would appease the commissioner?

2:46:40 – 2:46:56Olga Granda

They wrote that language before they went to the commissioner with the idea of changing the signage. Is that correct? That's correct. Right. So that's why. That's why they put modify and they proposed to the commissioner what modification would look like and they proposed removal. This language was written before that.

2:46:56 – 2:47:53Francisco Herretes

They proposed decommissioning, not removal. Again, decommissioning. It's the same thing. No, no, no, no. As explained just now, decommissioning can mean simply taking it off of our portfolio and not maintaining it and leaving it as it is. Not maintaining it. Which means that eventually it will be removed. So basically we can do nothing right now and just wait for you guys. staff to finish this conversation with the commissioner's office, who's going to make this decision in the end, and then come and tell us about it. What does he really want to do? Does he want us to paint it white? Yes. But where is that? Where is proof of that? Is there a letter? Is there something in writing? It's not even in the resolution, so what are you saying? You're telling us to paint it white? It's not here, it's not in the resolution.

2:47:53Speaker 9

So that would be a solution, that would be removing it, right? Or if the commissioner decided he wanted the building painted red, then the whole building would be painted red. I don't know.

2:48:02Francisco Herretes

Well, no, it doesn't necessarily work like that.

2:48:06 – 2:48:33Speaker 9

Let her finish, please. And so I think that it is, if you wish to defer it, that is an option for you guys. With these questions to be answered, it can be deferred for one meeting as per city code. I will ask the questions. We will come back to you. You can then make a decision. So that is an option. You can go ahead and vote to remove it. You can deny or approve it.

2:48:35Francisco Herretes

Why can we only defer it once if we've already deferred it twice?

2:48:40Speaker 9

So it's been...

2:48:41Francisco Herretes

It was deferred on November 3rd and on December 8th.

2:48:45Speaker 9

So if the applicant agrees with the deferral, which in this case the city is the applicant, agrees with the deferral, then you can defer it as many times.

2:48:55Francisco Herretes

All right, so that's going to be the case.

2:48:58Speaker 9

But if there is no more agreement, then you can only defer it once. as per city code. That was a change that was made in 2020.

2:49:07Maria Napoles

We don't make a motion that we want the final answer from the commission, what you want to do, that's it.

2:49:17Juan Valadez

But then you're ceding your power to the commissioner.

2:49:22 – 2:49:58Olga Granda

Commissioner the commissioner had it and apparently we're gonna follow whatever the commissioner because of the community's comments So that's I want to make a motion for AI ppb 1 8 1 8 4 resolution of the art and public places board with attachments pursuing to chapter 62 article 16 entitled art and public places of the code of city of Miami as amended approving the removal of A public art piece by artist Carola Bravo at Antonio Maceo Park, Newfield Restrooms, located at approximately 5135 Northwest 7th Street, making findings containing a severability clause and providing an effective date.

2:50:00 – 2:50:12Maria Napoles

I have a second. Not for me. No, I don't want to do it that way. I don't want to get into trouble with any commission. We're supposed to work. One-to-one.

2:50:13Olga Granda

I feel that I am following the directive of the commissioner. If I don't have a second, that's fine.

2:50:16 – 2:50:44Francisco Herretes

You're following the directive of staff. I would like staff to discuss this further with the commissioner. It's been on our agenda since October. It was deferred in November. It was deferred in December. We'll defer it this time, and we'll defer it until the commissioner and the PAC decide on what should go on that building. Do you think that it should be painted white and that's it, and we forget about it? I don't think that that's the best solution. The commissioner probably doesn't either.

2:50:44Olga Granda

I think what I'm hearing is that this is what the commissioner asked for, and I am responding to the request from the commissioner.

2:50:51Gary Feinberg

It would be great to hear from the artist as well. Yeah, no.

2:50:54Olga Granda

We have the letter from the artist.

2:50:55Gary Feinberg

No, but she can come in person, can't she?

2:50:58Speaker 9

She was informed.

2:51:00Francisco Herretes

Why is there any rush to approve this? Because the commissioner wants it painted white?

2:51:04 – 2:51:50Christina Cuervo

I don't disagree with Olga in the sense that I'm hearing that this is what the commissioner wants, so I am in support of the removal. However, I'm not in support of the removal absent knowing what the ultimate plan is. And if the ultimate plan is to do nothing, then I would just want to know that before I vote on this, that's all. And I don't care what that is. And I want it for the record as well. Right, exactly, because I just don't feel comfortable coming and saying, let's just remove this and not have, and really, it's an asset for the community. So, you know, that's what we're here to steward, is that these things get implemented effectively and for the benefit of the community. And just to not try to see this all the way through. I mean, I think that's where we can help.

2:51:50 – 2:52:22Francisco Herretes

Also, we invested dollars into this project. I don't think it's good stewardship of this project to just, oh, let's paint it over. It's a very definitive move to paint an artwork over, you know, just paint it white. I truly think that if we have more of a conversation with the artists and with the commissioner, You know, we can figure out what's next for this building. The mango thing or whatever the commissioner and the community wants to approve.

2:52:23 – 2:53:36Christina Cuervo

Can I just make a comment, a further comment, which is, you know, I represent District 4. And so I know that when Commissioner Reyes was, you know, alive, I would meet with him and talk to him about the things that were important to him, or maybe not him, Mayor Steve and his chief of staff. I had that great opportunity to meet with Commissioner Rosado's staff, and they're very supportive of what we do. So I think that that is one of the reasons we're on this board, is to be representing the commissioners who have appointed us here. And so that's where I think our chair has articulated how people who are absent you know, it hurts us. And I've been looking to see who is District 1 Commissioner representative. It's Nelson. I really like Nelson, but this is where he could really be helpful to us. And so I would, you know, open it up to any one of you. If one of you want to help by going and talking to Commissioner Gabela about this and maybe helping bridge, you know, coming up with a solution that would benefit everybody on this, that might be great.

2:53:36Speaker 14

We've also communicated to the commissioner about NELSA's absences, and they are in the process of appointing a member to the district one chair.

2:53:44Christina Cuervo

Right, but I'm opening it up to the board in the sense that maybe somebody here has a relationship with the commissioner.

2:53:51Gary Feinberg

I would do that.

2:53:52 – 2:54:05Christina Cuervo

I think that would be great, Gary, and maybe that would be helpful to defer this, and then try to come back to the next meeting with a solution. And if the solution is what Olga has proposed, and that's the final solution, then that's fine. I'm going to support that.

2:54:05Juan Valadez

Isn't the solution using the same artist, but a different artwork? I mean, that's the solution. And you did that.

2:54:11 – 2:54:31Christina Cuervo

And I think that she's willing to do that. And I think that that's great. And that's why, I mean, I just don't want to decommission. I want to take advantage that we have some collateral here. And I think it's in her interest, too. She wants... I'm sure she didn't want to do something that was offensive. So she's trying to find a solution by coming up with this other alternative.

2:54:31Gary Feinberg

I don't think that she ever imagined that this would happen.

2:54:34 – 2:54:53Francisco Herretes

It's a bad spot for her, for sure. She definitely wants to do option number two. The commissioner just... If decommissioning can mean painting it white or leaving it as it is, then for all intents and purposes, until further notice, it's decommissioned.

2:54:56 – 2:55:25Christina Cuervo

I would make a motion to defer this item to the next meeting and that our committee member, Gary Feinberg, try to meet with the commissioner and his staff and with AIPP staff to come up with a resolution or an alternative. that would be acceptable to everyone and with the artist, and come back and report, and if not at the next meeting, then we can take up this item. I'd be happy to do that.

2:55:25Olga Granda

If it is the mango plan, that there's clarity that that is what they want.

2:55:32 – 2:55:50Francisco Herretes

And also the budget, I insist. And what the potential funding source is for this alternative. Maybe it's the Parks and Rec Department, or maybe it's the commissioners' funds, or... or maybe it's part of the funds from the other projects or something like that, but, you know.

2:55:50Speaker 15

Second to my motion.

2:55:51Francisco Herretes

I'm sorry. Do you want me to repeat it?

2:55:53 – 2:56:04Speaker 15

Due to the fact, Vice Chair Olga Granda moved the motion. If you're going to do another motion, you have to withdraw that motion to move your motion. I will withdraw. It didn't die for lack of a second. Thank you.

2:56:05Olga Granda

I will withdraw my motion. Thank you.

2:56:08Francisco Herretes

So we have a motion to defer. I have a second. Now, can you make a motion to defer?

2:56:15 – 2:57:05Christina Cuervo

Okay, I'm making a motion to defer, let me see what the number was again here, AIPPB 18184, which was a resolution to approve the removal or modification of the public art piece by Carola Bravo at Antonio Maceo Park, and further in my motion is that committee member Gary Feinberg will attempt to meet with staff and with Commissioner the district one commissioner to discuss and the artist to discuss a potential alternative to the removal and how it could be modified and also that staff come back with funding alternatives to implement an alternative project if that is everyone's desire. Second.

2:57:06Speaker 15

Is it a date certain or just defer?

2:57:10Francisco Herretes

Continue to next meeting please.

2:57:13Gary Feinberg

But the new mural, that would fall on us? No.

2:57:17 – 2:57:28Christina Cuervo

I think staff has to come back to us and tell us how that's going to be done. And I'm sure Carola is probably going to be very cooperative, too, to try to come up with a solution.

2:57:28Francisco Herretes

And we should really try to keep it with Carola because, I mean, she won that call to artists fair and square. And she did a great job. It's just, you know, understandably, if it has to go, it has to go.

2:57:40Maria Napoles

She's very much involved with the local art, so she is probably willing to cooperate to the maximum.

2:57:49Olga Granda

We have her alternative.

2:57:52 – 2:58:20Francisco Herretes

Roll call? No. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Thank you, Florence. It was easier that way. We have one more item before the, before the, there's a resolution refresher, but that's, I don't know what that is. The AIP resolution 11 for modifications to the calendar.

2:58:21Francisco Herretes

I don't know if we want to review what, do we have a calendar there? Yes, I have. Can you put it on the screen?

2:58:29 – 2:59:14Speaker 14

So item number 11, file ID 18573, a resolution of the City of Miami Art and Public Places Board. approving modifications to the Art in Public Places meeting dates for the 2026 calendar year. Basically, this item is to approve the modification of the meeting date for the month of October. There was a scheduling conflict on October 5th with the Climate and Resilience Committee affecting the chamber availability. So staff has coordinated with that committee and hearing boards, and we recommend moving the AIPP board meeting to Monday, October 19th instead.

2:59:16Christina Cuervo

All right. And when's our next meeting?

2:59:22Francisco Herretes

The next one is February 9th.

2:59:26Speaker 14

That is correct.

2:59:30Francisco Herretes

It's the days in red, right?

2:59:34 – 2:59:45Francisco Herretes

February 9th. Normally it's the second Monday of the month. But in case of October, I think 12 is a holiday, right?

2:59:45 – 2:59:57Christina Cuervo

I'll make a motion to modify the Art in Public Places board meeting date for the October date. October 19th, 2026.

3:00:00Francisco Herretes

Second. Second by Ms. Granda, sorry. All those in favor say aye. Aye.

3:00:08 – 3:00:19Christina Cuervo

And can I ask one last question? Yeah, of course. That I'm engaged, even though I'm sick. The annual report that the chairman, I went through the agenda. I don't see it in the agenda.

3:00:19Speaker 14

It's an attachment.

3:00:21Christina Cuervo

It's an attachment. It's a separate attachment because when I'm scrolling through all the items, I don't see it there.

3:00:27Speaker 14

It's an attachment to agenda packet. So there's a link for the agenda and a link for the agenda packet on the.

3:00:33 – 3:00:48Christina Cuervo

Right, I clicked on the agenda packet and I see all of the items that you've presented to us today, but I don't see the annual report. So maybe I missed it somewhere in here, but it's not behind the item. I have a copy here because you gave me a copy.

3:00:48Speaker 14

We can send a copy to all the board members. Yes, please.

3:00:53 – 3:01:04Francisco Herretes

Everybody reviews it if there are any comments, et cetera. What I don't see here too much is a budget. Again, we have to read this in detail.

3:01:06Maria Napoles

Yeah, but she's gonna send it.

3:01:09Francisco Herretes

You're gonna send it to all the board members, right?

3:01:11Maria Napoles

Yes, to all the board members. By email.

3:01:15Francisco Herretes

So we all have a little homework, but I will promise to get that done for the next meeting. Done and improved.

3:01:25 – 3:01:57Juan Valadez

Sorry, I have to jump back to George Sanchez Calderon and that great gentleman here from Profiles in Black Miami, and he liked that house with the vernacular architecture. I mean, I know that artist is a very smart guy, is a good person, but to say you're going to cast a house in bronze for that budget is so not grounded in I mean, you could cast, like, a rocking chair and part of the porch or something, but you're not going to cast a house in bronze. I mean... Yes.

3:01:57Olga Granda

Please, like... What's the scale?

3:01:59Juan Valadez

Yeah. It's going to be... Yeah, so please...

3:02:03Speaker 14

The PAC had the same comments and concerns. This will be communicated to the artists.

3:02:08Juan Valadez

Give us something real, George. Something that you could actually do for that budget.

3:02:12Speaker 14

And that's why this stage was just to shortlist the artists and not really review the proposal.

3:02:16 – 3:02:28Juan Valadez

I understand, but it's going to change radically, that proposal. This gentleman's excited about that proposal and it's not real in that way.

3:02:28 – 3:02:39Francisco Herretes

We should also try to get those two extra spots. If we can get two more artists, you know, expand that call to get the two more artists.

3:02:40Christina Cuervo

That's a good point, Juan.

3:02:41 – 3:03:00Olga Granda

I think the last point about that piece and back to the money issue is that probably that's a piece that should have a bigger budget than $300,000, particularly because of its location. And we are not contributing any money to it. Maybe we should. Like, do we have funds that we can allocate to that? I think that's an important question to ask.

3:03:00 – 3:03:19Francisco Herretes

Well, that's a good question. Can you also review the budget as we, you know, in a general sense, to see where there may be pockets where we can maybe invest in a repainting of the building, or in this case, additional funds for a larger, you know, a better piece in Bayfront Park?

3:03:20Speaker 14

It is in District 2, so we can review the budget specifically to District 2 and also provide it to a district's commissioner office. Maybe they want to reallocate some funds from

3:03:31 – 3:03:51Olga Granda

third district buckets you talked about or they talked about that it was going to be like opposite the war memorial I think that's a pretty large scale no it's a super prominent and super relevant location like it's right next to the fountain next to the memorial it could be amazing in the under deck as well

3:03:52 – 3:04:07Gary Feinberg

The new park, I mean, because it's bridging the neighborhoods, I mean, this, that could be. That project is on hold. I know, but this, I mean, if this, potentially that could sort of move that thing forward, then it could be a win all around. But Bayfront's an amazing spot.

3:04:08Francisco Herretes

Yeah. Yeah, Bayfront's an amazing spot.

3:04:10Christina Cuervo

I think it would be a good idea. I mean, right now they're funding it, so, but I do agree, it warrants greater.

3:04:17Maria Napoles

I think it would be a good idea, I don't know. Well, I mean.

3:04:21 – 3:04:40Francisco Herretes

Since it's so important, it's not just this board that can find additional funds, but maybe the commissioner's office, like you mentioned, can find additional funds. Parks and Rec is already contributing. They have funds from Bayfront Park Management. Maybe they put in a little extra we find from some other allocation.

3:04:41Olga Granda

And that is my district, so I will reach out to the commissioner, too.

3:04:45Francisco Herretes

What district is in charge right now of, what commissioner is in charge right now of Bayfront Park Management Trust?

3:04:52Speaker 14

District one commissioner.

3:04:54Francisco Herretes

District one commissioner is in charge of that too? Okay, well, there you go.

3:04:59Olga Granda

That might change now that they're new commissioners.

3:05:02 – 3:05:13Francisco Herretes

No, I mean, it's a few conversations that we have to have with district one. Freedom Park, the Carola Bravo mural, this as well, so.

3:05:16Francisco Herretes

Are there any other items or issues?

3:05:19Speaker 15

Just discussion items.

3:05:21 – 3:05:36Francisco Herretes

No, we're going to leave those for another time, okay? So I make a motion to adjourn. Who seconds? Second. Second by Ms. Cuervo. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you for tonight.

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