Board of Commissioners Agendas and Minutes - Regular Meeting

I'd like to call the Mayweather County Board of Commissioners meeting on May 26, 2026 at 6 p.m. This time I'd like to please silence your cell phones and any other electronic devices. Please stand for the invocation given by our sister deputy administrator Jeff Fisher.

Definitely follow him. You thank me for the opportunity to gather here today in service to our community, bringing us wisdom, integrity, and understanding as we make decisions that affect our entire community, not as we would have it, but as you would have it. Help us to work together with respect and unity, seeking what is right and beneficial to all. Bless our community, our county employees, first responders, citizens, and guide us towards peace, fairness, and progress. In your name we pray.

Amen. Amen. Next, we'd like to adopt the agenda. Are there any changes to the agenda?

I have one amendment for the March 24th and I'm just getting ahead of myself. Under new business number one, I'm sorry, unfinished business number one, it should read request for funding from the City of Manchester. I forgot to add request for.

Okay, any other changes?

If not, Commissioner, Chairman, I'll take a motion to adopt the agenda.

All in favor? Presentation. Proclamation. Zion Hill Missionary Baptist Church is going to be read by Vice Chairman Nelson.

Proclamation. A proclamation to recognize the 150th anniversary of the Zion Hill Missionary Baptist Church of the Zion Hill Community in Meriwether County, Georgia. Whereas the Zion Hill Missionary Baptist Church of the Zion Hill Community in Meriwether County is celebrating its 150th anniversary during 2026, and whereas the zion hill missionary baptist church was founded in eighteen seventy six by will colton sam mckee and jim spear and whereas the first pastor was rev henry mullins and the first deacons were will colton sam mckee bob fuller w k rosser and henry blunt and whereas a fire destroyed the zion hill missionary baptist church in the late nineteen seventies and the congregation received support from other churches in the luther'sville area where it held worship services until their facilities were rebuilt and whereas for the past one hundred and fifty years including the rebuilding of its edifice after the tragic fire the mission and activities of the zion hill missionary baptist church have been maintained by its committed and dedicated members board of deacons and auxiliaries all for the glory of god as a multigenerational church for all people under the leadership of their pastor rev dr e l jemerson and deacon h douglas blunt chairman of the board of deacons and now therefore be it proclaimed that the meriwether county board of commissioners honor and congratulate the zion hill missionary baptist church on its one hundred and fiftieth anniversary signed and sealed on this twenty sixth day of may 2026. And we'll be presenting this to the church on June 7th on their anniversary celebration.

Thank you. Next on the presentation is Ms. Heather Green, TNVR, which is Trap, Nudo, Vaccinate, Return proposal.

Hello? Is that okay right there? Heather Green, Thank you for making space for me to speak at tonight's meeting i'm here to share information about tnv our crap neuter vaccinate return something that's greatly needed in our Community i'm currently a volunteer with troop county animal coalition. where I trapped Duke TNR with Katz and Troup County. I've also done some in Meriwether County as well and also take care of some colonies throughout the different areas. Meriwether used to have a TNR program between 2017 and 2021 This is not something that would require any money from the county, but can be done through grants. So if you've ever scrolled Facebook, you know that we have a community cat problem. It seems that every other post is about free kittens. We hear many stories from people reaching out for help. This is one that I came across lately. Sadly, the colony left behind last summer when a man died is growing with five young cats, just each having litters of kittens. We have reached out to many rescues, but all I have contacted are full, so the colony continues to grow. Daily cat fights. Neighbors taking the responsibility of feeding them. One of the neighbors who is on disability has four litters of kittens at her house and doesn't know what to do with them. We as neighbors are begging for help. This is not uncommon. The kittens in the story will be able to have their own kittens at just four months of age. People are overwhelmed. They don't know where to turn. And they genuinely care for these cats and are grateful when they get help. So for me, how it started, I live on Highway 100. So I go on to the interstate. There was a cat with a de-gloved tail at the Valero station. And I, like many people in our community, reached out for help. I couldn't find any, so I learned how to do this on my own and kind of took off from there. I partnered with another girl and started a nonprofit in Troop County, Troop County Animal Coalition. And as of in the past year or so, we founded April of 2025. We've trapped and neutered, vaccinated and returned well over 200 cats. We also, one thing I wanted to mention is there's a well established TNR program in Coweta County called Whiskers and Paws. So we were mentored through Sidney Lahr with Whiskers and Paws. We do have a Facebook page. You can see some of the work that we've done thus far. What I've seen when I'm out there, like I mentioned the cat with the decloaked tail. cat with a hookworm, which the parasite attaches to the intestines, eye injuries, male cats with injuries from fighting, skin and upper respiratory infections, colic virus, which is an upper respiratory infection, which causes ulcers and is highly contagious among the cats that are living outside. Lice and fleas, broken bones, where we've had to get some of the cats, like legs amputated. And then of course, kittens dying, either being, cause the moms run over, they don't have any, anywhere, you know, to get food unless we can find a bottle feeder, which especially this time of year is very difficult. And then, of course, just kids being worn outside in the elements. Why does this matter? TNR is the best course of action for community cats because it ends the constant breeding cycle. therefore decreasing the community cat population and stops behaviors associated with mating, such as fighting, roaming, spraying, and excessive vocalizing. The ones that are already here can live happier, healthier lives, and the residents are no longer overwhelmed with the sheer number of cats that we have. What it looks like is we trap the cats the night prior to the appointments that we have, They remain in the trap through the night. We do provide food and water. They should be kept in a temperature-controlled area, especially in very cold winter months or in the summer. They're transported to the clinic around 7.30 to 8 o'clock in the morning, the day of surgery, and picked up around 4, 4.30. And then they're kept in the same trap that night until the anesthesia wears off because we can't release them while they're still under anesthesia. And then they're returned to the original location the day after the surgeries. Some may be kept a little bit longer. What we need is we currently have sort of a running partnership with Health Spay and Neuter Clinic. They did one on the Snelson arranged for what they call the SNP ship to come down to the shelter and transport community members pets for a discounted spay and neuter. for both dogs and cats. But partnership with Help Spain, Neuter Clinic, our county shelter, as well as the county. And this is something, like I said, that is already in the works. Partnerships with local shelters, rescues for pet, and rescues for pets that have been put out by their owners and the kittens. Partnerships with out-of-area shelters and rescues and transportation. And I believe that's something that is already taking place at our county shelter. Transportation to and from the clinic. As mentioned, this is something that's already in works with the SNP ship. And then we can also use volunteers for the transport. Volunteers to TRAP. I already know one girl that is more than willing to help out. location for the cats after the trapping and then after the surgery and funding for the surgeries. And as I mentioned, this isn't something that would require any money from the county. There are at least two grants right now that I know are available. Ms. Nelson shared one with the county administrator and the director of animal services. That's through the Department of Agriculture and applications for that close on June 15th. And I was in touch with a lady from Best Friend Animal Fund, and she is going to relay my information to the person who oversees our area. And doing a little bit of digging online, I found out there already is a partnership between Merrimether County and Best Friend Animal Funds. So there are lots of organizations that have money that they want to give us to do this kind of work. trainings for TNR, which I would be happy to do myself, public education for spay and neuter, and resources for residents. Any additional resources, I don't know about partnering with any local vets, and traps available in different locations within the county for them to borrow. I did include the cost on the second page at the clinics that we use. We use PAWS in Columbus with Troop County, but that's going from LaGrange, not from Meriwether. And then Helps Pay and Neuter Clinic, you can see the prices on there. When you see Convina, that is an antibiotic injection that they will give the cats if they do notice any kind of skin infection or some of the toms have some pretty bad, get beat up pretty bad. So I've shared some additional sheets with you. One is a sample of how quickly the cats can breed. Females reach sexual maturity at just four months of age and have very short pregnancies. They go into heat every three weeks and can be impregnated by multiple toms when they're in heat. Sometimes the male cats will kill the kittens just to bring the female back into heat. The next page is a visual of what's called the vacuum effect, which is just kind of the reason behind why catch and kill or relocation of the animals or the cats doesn't work. It's not just specific to feral cat colonies. And the third is an example of some of the traps that we use. And there's another one, a drop trap, where you can catch multiple cats at once and then put them in transfer cages. So I'm already doing the work with Troop County. I've done a little bit in Gay, Manchester, somewhere else. I think I've done, oh, Hogansville. A lady right down the street from me. And I'm excited to contribute any way that I possibly can to get something up and going in our county. I'm not going to go over the third page. That's just some reference notes, some data that I picked up from different articles that have been written. So I think that is it. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Ms. Heather.

Finance report given by Ms. Tammy Lackett.

Yes, commissioners on the first page of the bank balances as of this morning. We should receive the last blast and T spot distributions later this week. On the second page. This loss balance is $117,164.20 and the T spot balance is 539,719 dollars and 16 cents. That's all.

Any question. The call here.

Yeah, no, no one want to now want to remind everyone may have gotten that email from the second Wagner with three rivers regional commission on Tuesday June the second. They are going to be holding the stakeholders meeting for the 2026 update to the Meriwether County Transit Development Plan. It'll be June the 2nd at 3 here at the office in this building, in this room. And I think she did send out an email to the stakeholders.

Thank you. Do you have any citizen comment?

No, sir.

Minutes. Monday, May the 11th, 2026, 4 p.m. work session. If I had a chance to read over. I make a motion to approve.

Second.

All in favor? May the 11th, 2025, 6 p.m. regular meeting.

Motion to approve.

Second. All in favor? right on the public hearing. Case number PC26-001, requesting chisel mill design and build LLC to rezone partial 028, 029, 36.81 acres, Ellison Forest Road from RR to R1 for proposed use of two acre lots to one and a half acre lots. I'll make a motion to go into the public's hearing. I'll second. All in favor?

Good evening. John Knight here with the Chisholm Mill as well. This acreage is actually only seven lots out of the total acreage. So it's actually only going to be 12 lots. And the Planning Commission approved the seven lots at one and a half acres each. It's on the upper end of the property that they own. off of a horse road. And the seven lots that want to rezone from RR to R1 is because Sloan Oak has given them a letter stating that they provide them with the water to those seven lots only. Not the remaining acreage, just those 12 acres, which is those seven lots.

There's eight highlighted on here. Did I highlight eight?

I'm sorry. Seven lots, one through seven. The very bottom one. I'm 1112 down here. This was not the very big one of the box. See seven right here.

You know, I was trying to find out to me a lot.

So small.

Yes.

Okay.

Which ones did you say? Take off lot seven.

Three, four, five, six, 11 and 12.

I was trying to holler at y'all for tonight so you can see it a little bit better. But Lawn Oak has said that they could provide, and they've given a letter stating that they can provide the water, but Chisholm Mills had to pay for the lines to be ran, or tap to be done.

So this is a development already approved?

This is a development already approved.

How many lots on this acre?

It was approved, the original number of lots We quote the original one out.

Looks like it should be 12 rot.

That's a different one. Yeah.

So I believe the original is five. This is a preliminary thought. We're trying to get this approval so that we can have flexibility with the one and a half acres. The south, the southern three are unlikely to work anyway because of the soil there. So this is actually likely to be closer to five lots as well, but we are trying to get it through

Well, that's confusing. Then if the soil won't allow you to build, why does it matter how many acres you have on it?

So there are good soils on the property. I think we are going to fit five here. We're trying to maximize the possibility with the good soils we have. And so by... Since we do have the water capacity, we would like to reduce the acreage to one and a half, which is a lot of water capacity.

To allow you to get two more?

Yes, sir.

From five to seven. That's what I'm trying to get at. Okay. Thank you.

What's the width of the lots there like on? The print here is too small, and then when I try to blow the screen up, it's too blurry. What's the lot width like on two, three, and four? What's the lot width? They are 200?

They meet the minimum that's required for a lot.

And when you say you're going to run water from where? Well, we're going to, y'all going to plan to put in a water, like a good water main that can have fire hydrants and so forth, or you just run a water line?

So the water to this site is already available. We're hoping to later potentially increase the water line, and that would require us to put in a fire hydrant. So for this property right here, the water line is already available here.

It's already there?

Yes, sir.

Can you sign the name of the hydrant?

John Knight, 104 Everbury Drive. That's it.

But what kind of line do we have? How big of a line? What kind of water supply?

What size water line is that now?

Didn't we just approve y'all, if y'all paved Ellis Road so many feet on Ellis Road, we'd let you put two-acre lots there?

Yes, sir, but that's a property south of this one that we also own.

Right. Are y'all still doing the other one?

So we're trying to see about... low notes water availability there, but this is where we're going to start. That's a little further.

No, what I'm saying is the one that y'all came in and we approved, y'all paved the road to have the lots.

Yes, sir.

When will y'all be paving that?

So right now we have three large tracks here. This being the first that we would like to build to build some momentum. And then those properties are further south and we have either side of Ellis Road. And so after we've built and sold these, we would hope to have some capacity to pave that road and extend that.

So you're not doing it right now. So you can't even get it approved, but we're not doing it right now.

We're working on this there. It's kind of like, since all of them are 20, it's kind of like one large phase neighborhood. So I would consider this phase one and those other two properties phase two and three. So we're working on the plot approval in conjunction, but hopefully we'll be able to do this one, build momentum, have the capacity to pave that road and then pave that part of Ellis Road.

So maybe I'm just misreading this, but where are the entrances to these two back lots? Are they going to be like easement driveways down or?

They're flag lots.

Flag lots.

I highlighted it.

When I highlighted, I covered it when I highlighted it. There's one right there. So it's just a driveway going all the way down to it. And that's part of the problem. Yes.

Not an easement. It's part of the acreage.

Yes. They just did a line all the way back.

But that one is a larger track.

No, still 1.5 acres back there.

Well, it goes all the way back to that one behind it, but how does it get to the one next to that one?

I'm looking at it differently.

This one. You can have it go straight back after that one, but then you've got to have another one go all the way back to the other one. Is that on here?

The driveway to lot number 11 on our page. There's not a driveway to that one. Okay.

You can't use the other five ways. You have to have his own.

Got you. Understood. So we would, this would all be preliminary. So we would make sure to have that figured out before we got the pot of fruit. But right now we just need to get to the acreage so we can decide what the science is like.

I don't know about the rest of the board, but it'd be hard to make any kind of decision tonight and make an approval of something that's a preliminary. You're not exactly sure. Because when you take that another 30 foot, it's got to be 30 foot for the flag lot, right?

So I don't know if you guys are hearing today, but this is... 30 foot is what's required, right?

Or 20 foot? 30 foot. So by the time you take 30 foot down that next lot...

So this, I believe that you guys have an old version. This is what I was saying. This one actually is a lot larger, 3.21. This is just a flag with no other entrance. So I brought a copy program. I think you guys might have been given something old, but this is what we're looking to get improved. So I do.

You're telling me what's been submitted to us tonight.

It's not what we even know. Apparently not.

Planning zone commission has not seen this.

My name's almost going to be out without the one and a half.

Seven lots of them. So Planet Dawn hadn't approved this new one. They've only seen this. And that we don't even need.

Can I tell you my new one?

Yeah. And Planet Dawn hadn't seen this one. They've only seen, right? Planet Dawn is the only thing this one, they have not seen this one, correct?

No, they just approved seven lots of the one and a half.

Right. So they haven't seen the new version.

But they did approve seven lots and one and a half. I know our land acquisition manager, Brandon Larry, had been planning this, so I don't know what happened and what's not. Fortunately, his wife's having some pregnancy issues, so he wasn't able to join. So I've been in charge, and he was telling me that that's what he was giving to planning and zoning. So they did approve the one and a half acre lot concept and the seven lots, and that advised by all those. It also doesn't have any easements, as you stated. It has that 30-foot flag drive, and I think this is also where that confusion came in when I told you that it was a larger lot in the back, and you can see that one's three and a half. So even though it does use that driveway as part of its acreage, it more than makes up for it. And you can also see in our lots, just because we're asking for one and a half acres doesn't mean we're Packing in 1 and a half acres. We have a 3 and a half. A lot of those are 1.75. So it's just to create some latency creativity with what we're able to do. Not only are we buying by the rules, but on a lot of those lots, we're exceeding them. The 3 and a half acre lot and some other large lots on there too.

Lot 9 is 3.21 acres. Are you going to run the water back there to that one too? Yes, sir. Because it shows a well on here.

If it shows a well on there, that's probably an active well that we would have to abandon. We wouldn't be putting wells that we were installing on it.

And there's eight lots on this one too. There's not seven, there's eight.

We won't be building that southeast one. If that was the one we are running the water to the three and a half acre lot in the top, but the one on the far southeast, we won't be able to build. So that would not be one. It would be the other seven, not that one included. That's the one I was saying we would lose because of the soils.

Yeah, I just feel like, you know, since we approved the payment of the road, you need to go from five acres to two acres. Now you want to go to an acre and a half. We just opened ourselves up to start approving a new acre.

That was a different piece of property.

Yeah, I know it was a different piece of property, but next it'll be that piece of property. Yes, sir.

My concern is the citizens of Long Oak express the water pressure issues already within the city. And I know this property very well. And so I'm concerned that they're going to lose their pressure when their wells are already a problem. And so... I mean, I spoke with one today to check and see if their water is any better lately, and no, they're already having pressure issues. So if they run a line, because they're not getting city, low-knock city water out to this piece of property, it stops way before that. It stops at the city limits. So if it comes on out this way and then runs to seven more properties, I'm concerned about our citizens that already have water issues.

Yeah, I know that low-knock pump and air bar in both Bloomsfields And Meriwether's pumping to Lone Oak and we've tested the water at that fire hydrant and it more exceeds the water pressure needed for this.

At what fire hydrant? In town?

There's a fire hydrant right near our property that we tested the water capacity to get to our lots. The reason that we haven't been able to get the water approved quite yet for additional lots is because we're going to need an engineer to do the topography test, but we have an engineer working on that too. But it's more than surfaces. The water pressure at that fire hydrant exceeds above and beyond the need for seven lots.

Do you have a copy of that testing?

I don't have a copy of that test. I do have the letter from Lona. Oh, yeah. If you look at this, the second page of this, sorry, as long as you look at the first page, this is the second page of the hydro flow test, where you'll be able to see that. And so that was what we had to get approved in order to get this letter of service agreement from the city of Lona.

So what size line would you run down to these logs?

We don't have to extend a two inch from our from the line of the road to our lots. Yes, it's a two inch. Yes, sir.

Just from the road to our eight different two inch line or just a two inch line.

Oh, no, eight. The lines already have to our property. So we just have to run individuals. This lot would not lot eight would be the one that did not work out too bad. So it is.

why it's seven and it's just these they're gonna set the uh meters at each slot yes sir and we're we're responsible for the paying of the tab the meter but they didn't solve all right because the problem i ran into in coweta one time is um you own the property from where it ends all the way down through there yes but the line's that now so you don't have to get owner permission to run because you can't run it on the county right away you have to put it on the property okay That's what I'm saying. So whether you're saying there's a line at now, fire hydrant, whatever, from there all the way down to here, y'all own the property? Yes, sir. Okay.

Did I hear also that the fire hydrant is being supplied by Ogdensville?

The loan of? It is loan of?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

Okay.

Where's Lionel getting their water from?

Their wells.

They have a well too? That's the problem we have when we had this big meeting with the Water and Sewer Authority. And Lutherville wants to get in the water business. So they keep extending out, extending out, extending out. And now the wells are going dry and they're wanting... So those that wasn't here at that meeting, they're coming here wanting us to contemplate spending millions of dollars to run water from Coweta County to Lutherville to help solve their problems when they got in the water business, not the county. Now we're going to be looking at loan. I thought maybe they were getting it from Troop County and the line came all the way from the industrial park. So I figured now that's where it's coming from. So if they're working off a well, too, we're just creating a bigger problem sooner or later. All these homeowners are going to be out of water. And the board, whoever's sitting up here, they're going to be asking this board to come solve their water problems. And at the county, at the taxpayer expense. So I don't know why these cities keep wanting to get in the water business when they've got a well. You can't run a water business with a well. It just doesn't work. You know.

Well, like I said, my concern is the citizens are there. And then you even stated after this, you're wanting to extend down to the Ellis Road location and do that again. And so that's going to be that many more on the same well that is already there. I mean, I know they've been having a lot of trouble with that well. So it's very concerning for the citizens that are reliant on it currently.

I would like to mention, since we're having this on record, a while back folks thought we came in here, the new board, and we changed a lot from five acres to two acres. So let's make it clear what we're talking about. Before the majority of this board came on here, the county had already gone from five acres to two acres on paved roads, five acres on dirt roads. So no one's sitting on this board right here. You know, it is responsible for people going around and go. Oh, yeah, they didn't change it down to 2 acres. They're destroying our county. I personally have already asked the board to think about it and. Cassandra to work on changing the ordinance. Our ordinance right now says, if you have water, you can go to an acre. If you have water and sewer, you can go down to an acre. But to protect this county and protect us from giving in that looking like Riverdale, Jonesboro and California County. I was hoping we was going to start in the next few months, start working on changing the ordinance to where it doesn't matter if you have water or sewer. This county should not go no less than two acres for a lot. If we keep doing it, if we don't watch what we're doing, I'm telling you, the citizens right here are going to go down the road and they're just going to see rooftop after rooftop after rooftop. And, you know, that's not something I want to see, but I'm just one vote. In the middle of this plan right here, is that something proposed? Is that somebody's house?

That's a house that exists.

There's a house that's there?

Yes, sir. It's actually done by the fellow that normally talks here, Brian Larry. We bought that house with the intention that he wanted to live there, and we would help him by purchasing some of the property to help him afford to live in Merriweather.

Okay, I was just going to ask whoever was living there, were they here tonight or whatever? I can't imagine somebody wanting to build there and then have everything stacked around them.

Well, he's familiar with our product and he really likes it. So he actually thinks it's going to be pretty good for his property value. And especially since a lot of those are pretty large lots, even two acre lots or large lots.

No, it's true. Okay.

Yeah, Mr. Chair, y'all kind of got off to the questioning first. As you know, the procedure is usually 10 minutes to allow the applicant and proponents to speak and then 10 minutes to allow the opposition to speak, so.

Anybody, would anybody like to speak that opposes this project? Okay. Anybody in favor? In favor? Anybody in favor? If not, we need to go at it.

Well, it's either two options. If we're going to vote one way or another, I guess we can go out. But if anybody on this board wants more information or thinks there needs to be more details, then we can continue to.

Do we need to talk to the town of Lone Oak and the citizens?

I would like to reach out to the citizens more and find out about their pressure and their concerns because I don't know that they knew that this was something being out of Lone Oak that they knew to come and express their opinions. And this water will impact them daily if we do this.

I haven't heard the same concerns from Lone Oak. Not only The water test that we did, it's above and beyond exceeds what it needs. In fact, Lutherville's issues that they're fixing right now, Lone Oak is pumping water to Lutherville to help them out. That's going to make it even worse. But Lone Oak has large capacity right now while Lutherville is fixing their issues. So Lone Oak's capacity is above and beyond what we need for these seven lots.

Doesn't Lone Oak get some water from the Mayweather County?

I thought they ran a line on down too long.

And we are on the meantime working on a report for that water to see exactly how many lots that could. And I'll be happy to share that once, you know, that time comes. But what we already have is approval from everyone that, oh, far as the water capacity.

So what would your drawing look like if you kept it at two acres and kept it so we didn't have to rezone anything and you still had water to them and that would still give you the water you wanted but it would give us the acreage that we feel more comfortable with? Have you gone with something like that?

Four lots and so it would be a big hit and and I don't know that the water, we'd have to see if we even wanted to use, the reason we're doing the water is to get the one and a half. We might have to see if it makes more sense to do wells in that situation, but it would also reduce us to four lots.

So take it down from seven to four. I mean, with what information I have, I feel more comfortable keeping them two acre lots because of the water supply in that area.

Do you want a table to get more information or you want to come out and make a vote?

But I guess like, Why are we not taking the water test for what it is that we had done that says it has been passed?

Well, you said you had another test that you were having done, but we don't have the results of that yet.

No, I handed you guys all of that.

Oh, I thought you said there was another one with the topography and all that.

I think we want to do more than these seven. It has more than enough capacity for these seven, but I handed you guys the loan of approval that also had the water test on the back. That's how we had to get that water test to get that approval.

I can tell you one thing about the flow test report is we supposed to believe this was in PSI or bar, inches or millimeters. Nothing is identified as what the test criteria was. So the nozzle coefficient 0.9, nozzle flow, flow hydrant, the nozzle size is 2.25 what? Feet, inches, millimeters. It's a big difference between 2.25 millimeters test and what kind of pressure you get versus 2.25 inches. So my opinion would be maybe hire a better person to do that test.

This was done by Matt Houseberry, who Merriweather uses to do a lot of their water as well.

I would go back to him and find out why he didn't clearly mark what he tested. I'm sure you paid for the report. Yes.

If I'm following you, what you're saying is they did a test on this 2.25 millimeter size, but you're talking about doing eight of those. So the number's not reflecting that.

Yeah, but I like what he's saying. It's a novel size. Whoa, it's 2.25. Is that inches or millimeters?

I know, but that's...

Is it 60 psi or 60 volts?

60 volts. There is not to service R7. If we were to do more, we were going to have to change it to like a six inch. And so that's what we have been talking about down Forest Road. And that's why we have the engineer report coming. But that two inch, they state that it has more than enough capacity for these seven homes. Now, if I have to get more information on that, to have them fill it out in a way that you guys feel more comfortable with, that's fine. But he He had done the report that we needed in order to get Lone Oak to give us the approval that they have the capacity to service our house.

Well, that's fantastic for you and Lone Oak. This board needs to be able to see it clearly, and it needs to be clearly called out what the testing parameters are and what they tested at. Yes, sir. I mean, you know, I understand your frustration, but then our frustration is we come in with two different plats, one we didn't have, and one we get shown that our planter's only didn't see. A lot of confusion around that. This test report, it doesn't even tell us how it was tested. I mean, there's a lot of frustration and confusion on this side, too. Are we trying to rush through this, and what for? So... I understand you guys are trying to maximize the property and make as much money as you can. I mean, that's the name of the game. We get it. But we got to make sure if you wasn't here for this, we had a huge water sewer authority meeting where we've got major water issues across the county. So before we make another water decision, we got to make sure we're not hurting anybody.

And earlier you stated there's enough pressure to do these seven lots, but you also said you want to do this first so then you can go on down the road. Then you'll want those to be 1.5 acre loss too.

Yes, sir. That's not right there saying there is that they will need to do that. We're just seeing an engineer to solidify that.

I'll make the motion for that. Yeah, I will just come out and continue to continue to continue until. with the June 23rd meeting. Give us enough time, you think, to the June 23rd meeting at 6 o'clock.

I'll second it.

All in favor? Thank you.

Thank you. All right, let's move right on to case number PC26-010, request from The family Smith Watson for the special use of 0.06 acres for a family cemetery located on Horseshoe 101-008 McLaughlin Road. Make a motion to go into public hearing. Second. All in favor?

All right. This is from Ms. Annette Brown. Her mother is very ill and she's requesting that the cemetery, her mother would be buried on her property. And so we have a survey done. You guys have a copy of that in your platform thing. And it's .06 from an acre. And she's asking that it be approved with Smith-Watson Family Cemetery so that her mother would be buried on her property. And Ms. Annette, is there any questions?

Anybody here to speak in favor of the cemetery?

Good evening, I'm Annette Smith-Brownhall.

Please state your name and your address, ma'am.

Annette Smith-Brownhall. I live at 584 South Salford Street in Winslow. The property is at 1216 McLaughlin Road. where my mother lived and she wanted to be buried on the property. That was her dying wish.

Thank you. Anybody here to oppose this?

Thank you, ma'am.

Thank you.

Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion to come out of the... I'll second. Second. All in favor? And I'd like to make a motion that the Board approve. I'll second at her wishes. All in favor? Thank you.

Thank you.

Any appointments?

No, sir.

Unfinished business. Request for funding from the City of Manchester for their 4th of July celebration. Manchester Fire Chief Ben Williams, table from the April 28, 2026 regular meeting.

Commissioner and Fire Chief Ben Williams are here to request funding for the Manchester 4th of July event.

And I know that we had table this before so that we could have time to think about it. I know that Manchester is not what Manchester used to be, but Manchester does add a lot of tax money to our base. I'd like to put a motion on the table to allow $10,000 to Manchester for the fireworks 4th of July. And I put that in the form of the motion. There's a motion on the table, isn't it? Got to call for a second, if there is one.

Second. Anybody got a second? Motion failed.

What have we done? We did do this the last few years. What did we do then?

$1,000 last year is all we did.

$1,000, I think, for the last two years, three or even four years ago, $10,000. $10,000. You know, we probably have four or five thousand people, while Manchester, Merriweather County, Upson County, Pike County attend, and yes, they're adding lost dollars to the account. So, but everybody benefits, Merriweather County as well as...

The only thing I'd like to say is we've had fireworks at Lake Merriweather for the last two years, and we appreciate Manchester for filling in for the years we didn't have. And we're coming up on our third year. We've prided ourselves in not having to use any taxpayer dollars for the fireworks at the lake. It's been totally paid for by local sponsors. We've worked hard to achieve this. With this being said, I feel as it would not be right to use taxpayer money to fund Manchester fireworks.

Have y'all started any kind of a sponsorship thing or business to go forth?

I was put in charge of fundraising. I have handed out 55 letters to different businesses.

Yes, we've got a pretty good response.

How much have you raised there?

I don't have to tell you. A lot of it, I've handed a letter, I asked, and they pay city hall for my decision.

I know it puts us all in a tough situation here, and And Brian has every right to make that motion, especially representing Manchester. And I wish there was a way we could do it. The only thing that's holding me back, if we were spending 10 or 15 of taxpayers' money, then I'd want to help the other cities too. And then the rest of the cities are going to want to say, well, you helped them. But my biggest concern is why I couldn't second is I helped raise this money too. And I'm just being honest, the feedback that if y'all start giving our money to other citizens, we're not sponsoring no more. And then if we lose, if we... Contribute $10,000 to Manchester as a kind of courtesy thing to reach out. If we do that and then we lose $10,000 over here, that's not going to help us anymore. Now we've got to spend $20,000 taxpayers' money every year. And that's the only holdback I have is when you're getting sponsored and raising money, They put it to, you know, if they want to do it to Manchester, they're going to go donate to Manchester. If they want to donate to the Lake Merriweather, they're going to donate. But they don't like it when someone takes their money and then go puts it somewhere else. And that's one thing that's bothering me.

Well, I'm going to say I disagree because there's been a lot of things on this board that have been voted against to give to Manchester. And I'm getting just about sick of it. So that's my personal opinion. And most of these people on this board are from Manchester. just live in different areas now. So. Thank you.

Senator Rush. Thank you, Ben. Well, wait a minute. I don't think we need to not give anything to Manchester. And we did as a board agree to spend $25,000 of taxpayer money to fund the fireworks in Woodbury. And luckily we've been able to raise that money and not have to spend the taxpayer money. So therefore, because we've engaged in that $25,000 fee, I was not in favor of doing the full fee to Manchester that we had previously done. But I'm not opposed to donating and helping because every one of those citizens are also Mayweather County citizens. So they're not just Manchester sitting separate. Right. Um, so, I mean, I'm, I'm okay with doing the same thing we've done before, or I'll put this in the motion now. I just, I'm fine with making a motion of $5,000 to Manchester to help fire work.

I'll second it.

How much? $5,000.

Half of what we used to do. So, $5,000, got a second. All in favor? All opposed?

Of course.

Just freaking ridiculous.

I'm superior.

All right, we move right on to new business.

Hello. I might as well go home. Y'all want to be.

Approve the 2026, 2027 ACCG property and liability renewal and allow Chairman to sign.

Commissioners, the current insurance policy with ACCG Irma expires on June 30th, 2026. The renewal policy runs from July 1st, 26 to June 30th, 27. The total renewal premium is $761,516. Less than 5% safety coordinator discount of $38,076 results in a total cost of $723,440. Listed out is the past three years, including the current year of the increase over last year with an 8.69% increase. Last year it was 665,577. Staff recommends approval and insurance renewal coverage for July 1st, 26th to June 30th to 27th and recommends authorization for the chairman to sign renewal documents.

Did they give a basis for the increase in the, especially the large increase from year over year?

Vehicle coverage is still $10,000 deductible. This is including a total fire truck to get only 8.69%. And we've added a few new vehicles. I mean, last year was... Say that again.

I'm sorry. So a total fire truck.

Total fire truck. And we added new Durango vehicles, pursuit vehicles, all to the insurance. And we got an 8.69% increase.

So we've added vehicles to be covered. A lot. And then we've got the... getting paid back now for totaling two fire trucks.

Well, and this one would be just one.

The other one was one of the one before? Correct.

And the previous one, it went only up, you know, $3,400 or so year over year with that one total.

The last one, it was total. We hadn't got nothing for it yet.

Yes, we have.

We have. I'm talking about the increase in rate.

It's this one right here, right? It's this one.

It's this one.

Is this current total?

Some of the increase, too, came when we added the three donated fire trucks. Y'all remember those? That increased a lot. We had some of the separate payment for those.

Yeah, it was a $12,500 purchase, but it was a three-quarters of a million dollar fire truck.

This is a perfect example of proof that actions have consequences and it's affecting the entire county tax base with this increase. We need to make sure we've got adequate training, adequate drivers, adequate investigation, adequate discipline in incidents that happen because now we've got insurance increases and we've totaled out vehicles. It's Yeah. We need to make sure as a department and as an administration, we're doing our due diligence when those issues happen to avoid this kind of increase. I know some of it was unavoidable, some of it's inflation, some of it's the new equipment, but you called it out and it's not, you know, I'm glad you did because it is a real issue.

It's across all departments, which is not just that one fire truck.

We told her what, other vehicles too?

Other vehicles, yes.

So do we have like a pandemic like COVID going on here with people who can't drive?

It's not one.

Well, I believe when they drive the trucks for public works like tandem dump trucks, they probably have to have a CDL license. But fire trucks, they do not. So I would make a suggestion that These guys go drive a simulator or something, get some kind of training, hands-on training for driving these heavy fire trucks. And now we got two tankers coming and they're going to be tandems and we sure need somebody that knows how to drive up.

We do have ACCG through our second program. Y'all see the discount there that we got. She does bring down the simulator. They've done prizes on that with all the departments.

You mentioned the tanker. Where are we at with the tanker? They're supposed to have already been here.

The last update was, you know, should be any, should be this week or first of next month. I'll have to reach out to the main factor and find out for sure.

They were supposed to have been here by when?

It was supposed to be April and then there was the delay with parts.

So now they're saying they're going to be here first of June?

Should have been the end of May at the Chattahoochee because there was some parts issues or main factor issues with getting the parts done.

that they're saying the ETA is what now?

It was, from what I understand, it must be the end of this week or the end of this month. So it should be the end of this week. I'll reach out to the vendor and find out for sure.

I'll make a motion to approve the insurance for HCCG for July 1st, 2026 through June 3rd, 2027 at 723, 4th. All in favor?

All the chair to sign.

All the chair to sign, yes. Discuss and approve 2026 LRA private lift.

Commissioner, Fire Chief Danny Stevens has provided Public Works Director Brian Griffin with a list of low rate, low weight bridges to be evaluated for potential use of the 2026 LRA funding. The bridges are listed below in the order of priorities identified by Chief Stevens. And the seven are listed, and I think a few of them did not have bridges when Brian went out there and looked at as an alternate. The 2026 LRA funds could be used to fully pave Alverton Road that totals 5.5 miles. This work could be completed in-house or through a bid process based on the current LMEG pricing. The cost of each mile is $269,223. This total project cost will be just shy of $1.5 million. The estimated 2026 LRA funding is $1,018,607. And additional funding needed would be $462,120.83 would be from T-SPLOS if we did the Alveton project.

So you're saying the bridges that are listed could be done for the LRA funds?

Yes.

With no additional funding from T-SPLOS?

Correct.

Because all we got to do is submit the alternative of King Road, Hamilton Road, we would have to add additional funds.

Correct. It's going to be the same way with LMIG when we get to that part as well, but it's a lot higher, about $100,000 more.

The three bridges that we looked at today, I just want to bring that to the attention because they do not total based on his estimate. We have to total $1,018,000 to fully get all that money.

These seven do not total that.

Only three of those could be used, and I think he can get more information on that. We compiled a project list just trying to do an estimate, but three of the bridges only totaled like $535,000. You still got to come up with something to make up the other $500,000. to cover that 26LRA.

There's seven bridges listed here. We can only do three of them. And we don't have, yeah, because that's not making any sense.

Mission Road is over an active CSX railway. It's a three-ton limit. It's CSX bridges. So that immediately comes off the list. Okay. Al Roberts Road was listed on the list that he gave me. Al Roberts Road is the road that is in Coweta County that just got repaved. It's our bench. We don't have a bridge on.

So that comes up.

But we do, that road is considered Marigolder County, I'm not sure.

We have a piece, we have property on the left side, but it was resurfaced from start to finish completely.

I thought the bridge they were talking about, if you go down Al Roberts Road and then when it curves to the right and then turns into Dirt Road, comes all the way to Strickland Town, that's us.

No, that's the first part of Rocky Mount. We don't take over on that. Isn't there a bridge on there that's us? On Rocky Mount, yeah, but that's not on the list. No. then Stovall Road is the one on the pond dam, and it's fine.

When you first started talking about it, you said something about there's a bridge over a railroad track or something?

The second one on the list.

Stovall is not on the list.

I know, but you're saying that's not our... It's not our bridge over the active railroad track. It's CSX.

CSX controls all the construction. All right, because... Well, you came on. We closed that road down there with a bridge. It was named that road that had a wood bridge on it. And Bill Cawthorn got an estimate of $300 and some thousand dollars to rebuild it. GDOT closed it, but it goes over the rail track. An active one?

No, we closed the entire road. It was on Flint Farms. No. Yeah, it would be here.

But what I'm saying is GDOT came out. It's our bridge over the railroad track. GDOT came out and condemned it. We were going to fix it, but it was going to cost us $385,000 to rebuild that bridge over a railroad track. So what makes a difference between that bridge and this one here over the railroad track?

We went back through the paperwork. Best we could tell, it is not our bridge.

Because that bridge up there, the railroad gave it to the cameras. years ago. That's why that was our bridge.

Any of the work has been done by DOT slash CSX. We have never worked on it.

I pulled the minutes on Mitchum Road just to look at that bridge because I knew we could have talked about that within the last three, four years. Mitchum Road looks like GDOT came out, said that the weight limit, they wanted it lower. There was some repairs that needed to be done. CSX made the repairs. I know there was a meeting of the county, CSX, and GDOT all out of that location. And when we pulled the file, It looked like GDOT had made the repairs to add some timber caps. And what was the other thing?

They put a runner's shop.

Runner's shop. So they took over and took care of it. Because when they closed, the CSX initially tried to, county needs to pay for this, county needs to pay for that. But it's not the county's to make that.

OK, so we started at Murray Road. That's a go.

Yes, I go.

Mitchum is no, because that's CSA. Is Mount Pilgrim's a go?

No, sir. Mount Pilgrim is that really long, narrow bridge that goes over them lakes that's currently closed due to the bypass. And we didn't work up a price because we're going to have to have a company come and give us a price that's probably going to total $3 to $4 million to replace that bridge.

Due to what bypass?

362 being closed.

We closed down. Yeah, the bridge that we closed.

No, we're talking about Mount Pilgrim Road, not Massengale Mill Road. We were on Mount Pilgrim. I was like, there's not a bypass. That's too close to me.

I know where that's at.

That's the other one. That's Massengale Mill.

So you just explained Massengale Mill. Yes. Mount Pilgrim Road. Mount Pilgrim.

Number three.

I'm going right down the list.

Trying to see which one I want. I don't have that one. I have Al Roberts, Harmon, Stovall, Beaver Lake. Stovall's not even on this list. Which one's not? Stovall.

Not on your issue, Piper.

Oh, look, because we took it off before. The address associated with it. It's in Truth County.

Yes, I remember that one. Wait, is that Flat Shoals Creek Bridge in Truth County? That's way away from the county line.

No, the one on Stonewall is why they took it off. Why you don't see it, they went ahead and took it off of the list. It said it was a church county address, so that's why it's on the list.

Is there an address on that program? I mean, give them 2354. I can assess that first thing in the morning.

So basically, we don't have the list to be able to make a decision with.

So, we have armor and you have to be related. But three of the possible six are on.

But we can only use 500,000. So we need another $500,000 to get this.

But it doesn't have to be all bridges. You just have to allocate money to it.

So we can do more. That ought to be easy. That ought to be easy.

We have Murray, Harmon, and Beaver Lake right now as the three selected. I'd have to look at Mount Pilgrim and see what all it needs. I don't want to spit something out.

Now the one for Harmon Road and Beaver Lake, they say 6 ton limit and 5 ton limit. So they're already, but they're still in bad shape and need redone?

No, this can't tow a fire truck across.

A 6 ton limit and a 5 ton limit, the fire truck can't go on those?

Dallas Mill Road we already are working on. 25 listed on here also. So, is there multiple bridges? I don't remember multiple bridges. So, that's what I'm saying. Can we clean this up?

As soon as I know what everybody wants, I clean it up best I can. I've got prices for 15 small roads to pave. I've got prices for eight large roads. I've got prices for 27 pipe crossings that ain't ours and a priority that somebody else gave me. So as soon as I have the directive of what you want.

You shouldn't be getting a priority from nobody but John Gordon.

Well, when he asked the fire chief what roads he wants me to replace bridges on. all gave that authority to him to quest that of me. Is that fair?

That's fair.

Okay. So you're going to ask the fireman what roads he needs to do.

So the fireman give you coal? Didn't they replace it?

He did. This is not a road fireman list.

I understand that.

These are not coals I would fix. With his list...

Can you clean up confusion with his list right here?

I give you three for $535,000.

And you're going to have to go check Mount Pilgrim. Okay. Because the rest of these don't need to be done. Correct.

Okay.

Or camping. Right.

And here's the thing. Once I submit for it, I did speak with GDOT state fund state aid coordinator today. We can change it. There's just a simple form that you like. Once you submit the project list for that funding, let's say you decide you want to do something different. There's a simple form I fill out and submit to GDOT. So it's not like it would take an act of Congress or anything like that.

Okay. So the reason I'm going through all this is because there's two big requests here, either, or the other asking us to do. And. This one, we need a clarification on, right? Because then you start talking about the difference. The second one, I don't feel comfortable making a decision on that when two and a half miles of that Alberton Road is in the LeMig project, and then it's further down the list. These almost need to be, we need all the information before we can decide. You know, so I'm, I don't want to decide here and then go to the LMEG and then it just blew up in there.

Address the agenda and put the LMEG first because that's probably going to come into play. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. We should skip down and do number six and come back to number two.

Well, I ran into the guy about, I don't know. You see what I'm saying? I inspected him. So when he inspects a bridge, this was stated, when he inspects a bridge, does he give us a report of that inspection? Does he tell us the tonnage on it? So, I mean, all you got to do is take a look at that. It should tell you.

And they're already posted.

Whether they're stable enough or not.

He gives us a report, and we go out and post them, whatever the state report says. If it's a six ton limit, we post it. If it's a 16 ton limit, we post it. These bridges that are in question have been this way for a very, very, very long time.

So, Michael, how do I go from let's pause number two and go to number six? Does that have to be a motion?

It sounds to me like you're not planning on, you may not be planning on making a decision on two anyway tonight without knowing what bridge that pressure is. I'm not. You're probably better off just going to that table to your next meeting and then go quiet and deal with six when you get there and then go out there and pressure six.

My only concern is that that line is a bit tight.

So, yeah, but I think we can take the data we have and put together a project once we know what the come back is.

I haven't seen the bids we got from the contract.

So, can I make a motion to table? Number 2. Till after number 6.

Theoretically?

Yes.

Yes. You never see something done like that. It would have been better, I guess, to have been in the outset. But theoretically, you can table number two until you have made a decision on number six.

I'll put that in the form of a motion. Second. All in favor?

Thank you.

Oh, and discussion of speed bumps. Let's say it was straight and go with straight.

Commissioner, I'm going to let County Clerk Ms. Stevens explain this one. She's been involved with this more than I have.

Where are we?

Appendix request came in during open enrollment as she was available.

It came through me from the citizens.

Okay.

Commissioner, the county has received concerns concerning the speeding and traffic safety near 376 Silver Street and 363 Gold Street in the Durant community. The residents in the area have requested that the board consider installing speed bumps to help reduce vehicle speeds and improve safety for the motorist, pedestrians, and nearby property owners. The purpose of this item is for the board to discuss the possible installation of speed bumps in these areas and provide direction to staff regarding any additional review or action needed. I did reach out with the sheriff's office, fire rescue and public works, and none had any objections or concerns regarding the installation of the speed bumps at that location. Staff's asking that there be discussion and direction through the staff from the board regarding possible speed bump installation near 376 Silver Street and 363 Gold Street.

So 376, or 363 Gold Street is in between Highway 18 to Silver Street. Gold Street continues after that, but what they're requesting is actually this citizen says put it right in front of my house, right in my driveway. I don't care. So it's not in front of his driveway, but it's right there. So it's a short stretch. It may be a quarter mile, but apparently people are coming through and disregarding all of the stop signs to come to Silver Street. That side is where it goes from Gold Street down to County Line Road and then turns into JW Dunn. So people are blowing past the stop sign at the end of County Line right into Silver and just flying right on through. So they're hoping that this will help slow that down. There's a lot of children that are playing out there. Concerned. You might get a vote. Well, I didn't know if y'all wanted to discuss it. Well, I'll make a motion to approve it. The location is identified as requested. Second. I'll invite them.

But we do need to find out what we're going to do to solve the speeding problem. The Sheriff's Department says they can't run radar because the Georgia State Patrol has to prove it. And we're constantly adding more and more speed bumps. And the people living there deserve that. But you're going to find that these are going to basically cause a problem with it. I know they said they don't have an issue with it. But you start sending an ambulance to somebody's house with a bunch of speed bumps or a fire truck, they have got to stop and crawl over. They can't hit any car with all the stuff in the back. So... But these people ignore the speed limits, and they ignore the stop signs, and no citations are written to them. So I don't know. They can't keep them off the no-truth truck.

They can't keep the trucks off the road, too.

I agree with you. We have speed bumps all over the county.

But they're going to come in and ask for more and more and more because we're setting up presidents. And I voted along with this, and I agree with it. But we've got to figure out another thing because everybody else is going to want speed bumps, too. And it's just going to hinder one of those. Yeah, I ain't going to vote to put one on suit, Rob. I got that on next month's agenda, man.

Discussion of jail facility maintenance. Discussion of jail facility maintenance.

Commissioners of jail-related work completed by Bates Mechanical for the plumbing and by C.A. Owens for the locks has been addressed. Bates Mechanical has already been on site and C.A. Owens has scheduled, they were scheduled for today. They called and said they will be here tomorrow about 11 a.m. to look at all the lock situation going out of jail. So I don't have an update on that one. Bates Plumbing came out, looked at it. They were replacing some of the pipes that were cut too short. Regulator and one on the pressure, the regulator, licking it off, fixing everything in that part. So Bates and CA Owens are coming. Like I said, Bates has already been on site. CA Owens will be here tomorrow to assist the lock situation.

And this is primarily for work that they should have already completed.

It's fallen under the warranty of the work that was done.

Okay. We had them come in and do work, and then they got to come back and remediate their work.

Correct.

Okay. So there's no decision for us to make there.

No, I'll just give you an update on the facility because, like I said, the plumbing, they found, I guess, a regulator, and then the piping was cut maybe a half inch too short, so they're replacing all that.

They didn't notice the pipe was too short when they put it in?

They switched workers about halfway between the project, and I think this was the first worker's work, and then the second one, so it's two different people.

And that's still an issue now? Oh, yeah. Because that was an issue a month ago.

Yeah, Bates just came on about two weeks ago and assessed it.

No, I'm saying we discussed this at a meeting two weeks or four weeks ago. It said they just got to get this valve or get such and such, and that still is not fixed.

I asked Lee for an update. I didn't get an update before this meeting. I asked him to stop by to fill me in on it, see where Bates is at.

What about the locks in there?

CAO wants to be here tomorrow. But they were scheduled to be here today. He called around 1 and said he'll be here by 11 o'clock tomorrow. He's going to assess the situation and see what he needs to do.

Who actually oversees the project? At the courthouse, EMC oversees it right in River City. So who's overseeing what's going on in jail? Because they're the ones who make the stuff happen and get done.

Right now it's Lee, it was Bill Cawthorn that did the locks and the plumbing for Bill Cawthorn.

But I know Bill Cawthorn, when he was on site, was overseeing it, but right now.

Yeah, we started all this after he left.

Yeah, but right, well, I think it started when he was still here, but he wasn't there when the repairs began. But we don't have anybody but Lee.

As the situation comes up, Lee goes in and says, hey, this is the issue, and we reach out to the vendor and get them on site.

All right, grand jury presentments, May 20.6.

Permission as a grand jury presentments were included in the board's minute packet reviewed and discussed by the board. Formal acceptance is now required as repair efforts at the jail continue. Staff extends its appreciation to the grand jury for fulfilling its responsibilities.

I'll make a motion to approve as presented. Second. All in favor?

Award of Fiat for 2026 LMIC resurfacing project.

The mission is there's going to be a lot of numbers thrown out, so I'm going to try to go slow and get all the numbers in there. Mary Weller County was awarded $942,044.52 for the 2026 LMIC. The 30% match is $282,613.36, bringing a minimum total funding for this project to $1,224,657.88. On May 21st, AMC conducted a bid opening and the four bids are listed below from highest to lowest. Atlanta Paving was $2,205,242.38. F.S. Scarborough was $2,106,265.69. Piedmont Paving and Grading was $2,082,807.50. C.W. Matthews, $1,823,088.00. EMC Engineering Services, Inc. has recommended awarding the 26 LMIG Project CW Matthews an amount of $1,823,088. Approval of this bill would require an additional $598,430.12 in funding from TSPLOS in order to complete all three road projects, Coleman Creek Circle, King Road, and 2 Miles of Appleton. If the two miles of Allison Road are removed from the project scope, the total project cost will be reduced by $538,446.53, bringing the revised total to $1,284,641.17. And I said, if you go back to your commitment page, you'll notice the 2024 LRA has roughly $385,000. We're still waiting on one invoice, so it should come in around $300,000 less than $24,000 LRA money. So you can use that money to help fund the 26 LMIG. So it comes out to the board if you want to do two miles of Albertson or remove it and do the whole five and a half miles at one time.

Brian, can you come back?

Albertson Road is in bad shape. There's a lot of traffic on it. And people are already going, oh, in fact, I had an old guy the other day. What's that?

1,487,27 is your cost? Yeah, most of it from Strickland Town Road back to Allenton. It should be on the same sheet. The bridge is wrong.

Is that your number? Allenton was 1.3 for Allenton, the whole Allenton.

The 1.4, I calculated that based off of the mileage from C.W. Matthews. Okay. At the five and a half miles.

For us to do it internally is 1.3, which is only about $150,000. You're saying...

But that's monies and you would see that advantage. Not yet. I mean, we haven't made that decision.

No, it hasn't yet. I calculated based on the per mileage.

It's 1.3 to play by Hamilton. You do it in-house, 5.5. 5.5. 5.5.

And you bid it out, it may come in a little more than 1.4. That was using the $563,000 for the two miles divided by two, that's 5.5. That's still that much in-house? So each road's different, right? Yes.

Some roads need oak. Allentown Road does not need just an oak, but it's going to have to have OGI on one side to the next, plus the two inches of topping on top of that, plus striping, plus shoulder building. There's no quick, cheap lipstick on that. It has to be done right.

And it's really more than we can handle in the house right now, isn't it? It's more? What all needs to be done would take a lot of y'all's time to do that.

Yes, it would. It would consume us for a lot. We would be better off letting C.W. Matthews do all of Ableton Road and letting us do King Road and Golden Creek. Right. As much as trying to do some other road.

Well, we had to have a list just to get the money approved. Sure, that's part of it.

We're going to do something with it. What are we going to do with it? We don't know. Let's get CW Matthews involved. All right, because they're good. Well, they're going to do these three, but not this one now.

Yeah. So in the dollar presentation, can we, what is the presentation then if they do all of Alberton Road? We don't have a price on it.

I estimate it's going to be close to that 1.5. We'll have to bid it out and see what it's going to cost. Okay.

So you have an estimate already for in-house King Road Common Cree. What numbers do you have for those?

$1,100,000 for both. That's $5.09. $1,000,000 what?

$1,100,000. $1,100,000. Or $1,300,000 to do King and let them do those two. You still need $30,000 worth of

You need about $130,000 additional to meet your LMIG requirement. If Brian did those two roads.

Right. So I got an idea if y'all would indulge me to go through it. We still have our fund balance overage that we didn't decide. So if we pull Alberton out of the LMIG and let Brian do it, That means we would have to commit an additional $60,000 from T-Splash to do the other roads. Because you're saying it comes down to $1,284? Yes. $1,224 is what we've got with our match. We'd have to put another $60,000 with it out of T-Splash and they could do those other two roads. Brian can do Alverton Road. We have $550,000 left from the bridges that we've talked about. Put it towards that and another $800,000 from the fund balance overage and we're done.

Plus you got the 24 LRA about $300,000.

So maybe it's an answer. So we could do that. $300,000 left from 24 LRA and then $500,000 from our fund balance overage. Still leave us a million dollars in fund balance overage.

But he just said himself that they really shouldn't be doing the Albertson Road because it's going to be very intense. I didn't hear that part. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of work to be down there just going out there.

I think we don't need to let somebody put in a bid on something and then start telling them we don't want to do this, what we've already requested them to bid out. I think it'd be better off if Brian did another road, you know, other than what was on the bid sheet. be just my opinion. I mean...

I don't want to take nothing from our public works, but I'm just telling you, you can go look at Alberton Road. If it's not done right, it's going to be tore up in three years. It's a traffic nightmare.

And we have a 600-day impact disturbance for that. I'm going to have to run back and forth to Atlanta every grid day to be attacked.

Yeah.

in order to keep that move, you know, attack thinker like they have on carry two backs and downs.

Okay, so, all right. You do the other two roads, we don't hit enough for the match, for the meet. That's what you said, right?

If you do Coleman Creek, Circle, and King Road, you will have enough for the match.

If we don't let C.W. Matthews do it, we don't. If they just do Alberton Road, we don't hit our match.

Because they only bid it on two miles. At $538,000. For two and a half miles? For two miles of Allison. That was the cost that Chris came back and told me. That's what he calculated C.W. Matthews for the two miles of Allison at 538,446,53.

Well, that's easy to figure out.

So I took that divided by two times 5.5 and cut it to the 1.4 million. That's where that 1.4 in that first paper came from. Take the 538 divided by 2 times 5.5.

You already did that. Good.

That's where your 1.4 on the 26 LRA money came from. That's just, you have to bid it out, but just the ballpark figure from the last year.

So we need to put an additional $200,000 from this loss, and they do all of Allerton Road.

I would use the 24 LRA.

In-house. Yeah, but in an in-house, we do the other two. And how much are you going to be short on your helmet match?

About 30%.

Yep. So if you do the Coleman Creek and Canyon.

You got 1.1?

Yeah. About 125.

Gunter Street is all about Coleman Creek. It's a $50,000 job. It's 1,200 miles. It's right there. It needs to be done. It's rated as one. As far as finding enough roads to pave to meet that, that's the easy part.

Yeah, but we need to use I think.

So you have to, if you want to do the hours in the whole five and a half, you have to put out another bid and just reject all 26 LME bids and rebid it.

We got to rebid everything to do that.

If you want to reject and do all five and a half miles of Allison has to be rebidded by everybody. Fair opportunity.

If they take that shuttle buggy back out, you'd save enough money right there to pay for the asphalt for a Coleman circle. See, there ain't no County around here. Use a shuttle buggy. And if anybody don't know what a shuttle buggy is, it's a piece of equipment they're going to go back and forth on. They add two, it's supposed to make. How much is a shuttle buggy? They put in their price that they figure about $400, $500 an hour all day long.

Well, I mean, from the bottom price to the next one was $200,000. So somebody must not think it's a shuttle buggy.

I don't know that part, but I just know EMC actually figures a shuttle buggy in there. So we can't make a version of that. That's about a $45,000 expense. $45,000 by a lot of asphalt.

So we can't make a motion on giving them that because it has to be rebid.

Craig, if you want to do the whole five and a half miles of balance.

And keep in mind for them to rebid, they have to pay EMC every time they put in a bid on something. And so that means we're expecting them to come in and pay again to rebid a project that they just came and bid on. So it might not get many bids because they're going to say we just paid to submit a bid. Last week.

But the way we're discussing this is a cheaper way to get there than if we do the 1.8 and then take $600,000 of this extra money and put with it. We still got three and a half miles of out of the road to pay, which is going to be another million dollars. Whereas this way, we're only trying to find 200 to $400,000 to get all of this stuff done. So, you know, I'd hate rather them have to, you know, well, I don't know how we work that out. I mean, we ended up spending $600,000 less this way. Is it, I mean. So how do we need the word? So that's what I'm trying to figure out.

You have the ability just to bid out that 3.5 additional mileage. as your LRA project, if John's estimates are correct, then that would come in at about a million, right at your LRA funding, when we can encourage problems.

As for, instead of a new bid, an attenuation of a bid, and a stretch off what you're going to call it.

Right. Because... You can do it quickly enough, and you know... I really should have got a little closer. Just let me start. We're out here. They have a lower price on them than they would otherwise.

So we need to do that at 600. We got roughly 500 left from this year's LRA, right? Based on that bridge list being cut all the pieces. So that leaves 100 to get that can come from the 300 to the 24 LRA, right? And that gets that short list of bridges and all of these roads and all of the Albertson Road done. No, it doesn't get all out in real. That leaves us $200,000. Plus, we'd have the fund balance or T-splash to finish out with the road at roughly a million dollars, 800 to a million. That's why I say going that route causes us to spend about half a million dollars more out of our overage fund balance or T-splash so that we already have the other money. But what's the problem with doing that now? Because the only problem I heard was they might get upset because we asked them to bid something and took it away from them. Well, I mean, I don't think they'd get upset if you let them do all that.

Well, that's the way bids work anyhow. I mean, that's what you do. When you put out for bid, you're not saying that whoever has the lowest bid, we're going, you definitely got the job. Everybody puts out bids, and that gives you some numbers to work with. I've been putting bids for 45 years. A lot of times I'll never hear nobody call back, and sometimes they all ring. So, I mean, there's no guarantee. If we decide to regroup, but it's just pulling on timeline, we've got to get this going.

We need $1.4 million for them to do all of Albatune. Estimate it. okay and you need one three to do the other two one one one one and we've got 12 24 right there so i just call it 200 okay but once we approve this then we can pull out what we want to and move to whatever we want to do you got to do that 26 lra for the other two rows king and column three they're not going equal

Is that what you said, Doug Williams?

Hang on, we ain't got to. That 1.1 would have to add another room.

No, not for LRA because you're getting $1,018,000. So it would be okay.

Yeah, they're talking about the credit for wrong, Commissioner, but you're looking at allotments moving to two miles and doing a complete five and a half miles. Is that what you're?

Yep.

Okay. Okay. Well, Michael's just bidding out the 3.3, 3.5 miles of remaining mileage as a separate bid.

What did he say it was? 2.63, I think. 2.63, I think.

Your LMIG, you wouldn't be able to do that because the bid that y'all put out for the LMIG project did not include that 3.5.

So you have to just bid.

If you wanted to do that 3.5 additional at a separate bid, you could do that. and make just that 3.5 part of your LRA, and then you carry on with your element as is.

Here's what I want to do, and it only costs us $500,000 versus me. One point, and y'all help me figure out how to, all right, so $1.4 million to do all the average and road with a contractor. We've got 1224 in the mid plus our match we've already committed to. So roughly $200,000 more that we'd have to add to it from the 24 LRA. That would leave 100,000 left there to use. So now we move over to, so now Albert and Rowe's done. We move over to the other two roads with Brian. He needs 1.1 million. We've got $500,000 left from the 26 LRA after this bridge work. We commit to it. That leaves 600. Take the remaining 100 from the 24 LRA, at least 500. We take that 500 from either TSPOS or our fund balance overage. So we're only spending $500,000 outside of the awarded money versus a million. So how do we make that happen?

So I'm going to submit for the LRA. It needs to total, the project list needs to total at least an estimated $1,018,000 of whatever change was.

3.5 miles will total that. And that's doing nothing but roads with everything. That's not touching the bridge or culverts.

It's touching the bridge. Because out of that 26 LRA, he said the only ones left listed was like 550.

Okay, so you're going to do the three that he mentioned. He's going to do the three he mentioned. Okay, I'm following you now.

All the Lamee project we said, plus finishing Albertan Road. And it uses up all of the LAMIG money, the LRA money from this year, the left balance from 24. It will only cost us $500,000 that either we can take from TSPLOS or our overage fund that we were going to look at doing buildings and roads with anyway. Instead of doing it the other way, it's going to cost us a million dollars to pay $1.1 million to him to go do those two roads.

So the way it would need to be passed is...

I know, I was having to do math while everybody was talking.

Well, I think we need to be approved by the board as approved to 26LMIG as presented with C.W. Matthews for everything. For 1.823.

Yeah. 1.823, yes.

And then when you go back to the 26LRA, that's when you make the recommendation to bid out 3.5 miles of Allenton utilizing those funding sources.

And add the bridges.

And add the bridges.

Utilizing either T-Splice or the Oak Ridge from the 24LRA.

Y'all love it. 24 LRA. All right. Bid out over. Award of 26 LMIG as presented. Then the LRA, the three bridges are culverts. The additional 3.5 miles of Alton to bid out. And then use the LRA, 24 LRA remaining funds. And fund balance. Fund balance slash T-SPLOS. To be decided by the board.

And at that time, we can decide which one's the best.

Depending on the balance.

Depending on where our balance is going.

Does that work, Michael?

It works. Going back to the LMA motion, it would have to include the debt that's also about to be sponsored. Because 1.8 doesn't, when you're only getting 1.2, means that you have about $600,000 worth that has to be sponsored by TSPAL.

We have to do that in the motion, even though we're not going to be spending it later on through the project. Because the way it's broken out, we're not going to do that.

Mike, what are you saying? You got to go back to that LRA?

Oh, yes, we are. I'm sorry.

That makes moot the 24 LRA and fund balance on T-spots. That's already in there, so we don't need to add that on the 24 LRA part.

Well, we will the fund balance just to cover our seven. All right. I think I'm ready to make a motion if y'all. So I got to make the one and then we got to go back to number two, which is now number seven to do together.

Yes, sir.

I understand. All right. So for item number six, I'll make a motion to approve the 26th for the 1,823,088 dollars to C. W. Matthews with the deficit that comes from T-SPLOS.

Second.

Are we right? All in favor? Okay. Now we're going to now item number seven, which is item number two.

Finance will run all these numbers, Commissioners, and if there's a discrepancy, we'll bring it back in next month.

Because we're also on the clock with a lot of this, right, Allison? I mean, we need to make decisions. Right. The skills will work at least. The project list.

Okay.

So if y'all indulge me for a second on this, I'll make a motion. You can let it fall or agree with it. So on the 2026 LRA project list, I'll make a motion to, are we repairing or rebuilding bridges on Murray Road? Harmon Road, Dallas Mill Road, Wadley Street, and Beaver Lake Road. Those are your three, right? Murray Road, Harmon Road, Dallas Mill Road, Wadley Street, and Beaver Lake Road. Second. With funds to come from 2026 LRA funding. I would like to take the balance of the LRA fund and bid out the remaining 3.5 miles of Alverton Road paving. And any remaining balance of that project be funded with the remaining balance of the 24 LRA and fund balance if necessary.

And the remaining of the 26 LRA. Already did that, I thought. I think. They got a 24-26 LRA balance and the fund balance. Second.

Second. All right.

All right.

We'll get that.

I always said you knew your numbers, buddy.

All right. So we're getting everything we wanted done other than we got some questions about some of these bridges on there. Okay. Okay.

That's what we've been trying to do, but there's been so much. We just work about it like that. It's the same thing we talked about for a few months. It's exactly the same thing. It's just now it's more thorough.

That's it, right? That's it. Welcome County Administrator.

Commissioners, I'll be quick and swift. We had an ambulance chassis estimated from John Meagle. It'll be August, so it's coming along pretty fast. I've contacted them. I've ordered the engine for the flatbed that's sitting over in the surplus yard. We put seven vehicles on GovDeals and made $26,000. I don't know what the commission will be off of that. We'll have to pay back the GovDeals, but as soon as that check comes, it should be in the $20,000 range. Waiting on titles to list the remaining vehicles. Vehicles on good deals, surprisingly some of the pickups on there went for a thousand dollars. So good deals turned out to be very successful for the county. Word on the radio contract, we got it signed. They're clearing the land across the street. We had a meeting this morning with Yancey, attended the L. McBid opening. We had open enrollment last week with a lunch provided on Friday, May 22nd. We had a fairly good turnout with the people that were here with being Memorial Day weekend. I met with Travis City, or Travis with River City on the courthouse progress. I got a meeting with him on Thursday about an HVAC install. They got questions about how to run it on the second floor. Met with Jim Fallon on retirement. We researched the courthouse trees and trying to find the best solution on that one. And preparing the scope of works as discussed in the work session. That's what I have.

Oracle County Commission, Commissioner Horrigan.

I was like, thank you everybody for the job they're doing and everybody here for being patient through that last conversation. And then thank all the citizens for coming to the meetings and getting involved and getting out to vote. It was a little disturbing. I think our vote turnout was extremely low for our county. I hope more people will get involved and let their voice be heard. Vice Chairman Spence.

I just want to thank the citizens for coming out and being part of it and participating in all that we're doing. And I went to the car show that the Greenville Senior Center put on Saturday morning, and it was great. It was great walking around and then seeing us there and participating with them. The Memorial Day service went great yesterday at the Manchester Meal. And, I mean, it brings it to light when there's someone standing there talking about the soldiers that he lost standing beside him in Vietnam. and it was really touching, and I hope more people come to that next time, and thank everyone for all that they're doing.

Mr. King. Same thing. Thanks to the staff and public works getting things done, and I'm glad we're finally getting some rain. It's hurting outside work, but we've been needed, but other than that, thanks to everybody.

I'd just like to say thank you to the staff and all employees for the job they're doing, and thank the Constitution for coming out and The maintenance and support the commissions. That's all I have. County attorney report.

These are the second session.

Future meetings and notices Monday, June 8th, 2026. Regular meeting 6 p.m. Closed in the purpose of June 10th on Friday, June 19th, 2026. Tuesday, June 23rd, 2026. Regular meeting at 6 p.m. Closed in the purpose of Independence Day on Friday, July 3rd, 2026. We have a need for executive session, litigation personnel, real estate, tax matters, and cyber security. So moved. All in favor? Second. Second. All in favor? Action was taken during executive session. We'd like to accept the county administrator's resignation effective July 10th. There's a motion, I second it. All in favor? Also, I'd like to make a motion to approve salary discussed during executive session for an employee. I accept. All in favor? I make a motion we adjourn.

Second.

All in favor?