Board of Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the August 25th, 2026 Board of Commissioners meeting. I'm your District 4 Commissioner and Presiding Officer, Shakira Johnson. Thank you for being here with us today. We do have a long agenda, so please bear with us. If we are running out of printed agendas, there is a QR code outside that front door that you can scan and get the agenda on your phone. Before we move into the inspirational, I did want to take a moment to actually have a moment of silence. We've had some passings in our community and some anniversaries of some passings in our community. I

Thank you. I don't know about y'all, but I needed that this morning. Amen. So now we will have our Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Ted Terry, and then we will go to the floor for our presentations and proclamations.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Commissioners, if you'll join me on the floor. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. So I will be presenting the Hispanic Heritage Month Proclamation on behalf of Madam CEO. And I believe we have our Deputy Director from the Mexican Council here. So if everyone who is here for this Hispanic Heritage Month would like to start making your way forward. I will start our remarks. Good morning, everybody. On behalf of DeKalb County CEO Lorraine Cochran-Johnson, welcome and thank you for joining us as we recognize the extraordinary contributions of DeKalb County's Hispanic and Latino communities. Al

Great morning, everyone. It is indeed a great morning. During National Black Business Month, we had an opportunity not only to celebrate businesses, but the people behind them. The people who took a chance, stepped out on faith, created opportunities, and then reached back to help others. Again, great morning. I have the pleasure to serve as your DeKalb County Commissioner, District 3. And I am here to celebrate Dr. Valencia Val, Prince Littleton, because she is one of those people that created opportunities here in DeKalb County. Listen to this. For decades, Dr. Littleton has been an entrepre

And I wanna welcome the family and friends of Ms. Val as I call her to come up front and come celebrate this moment along with her, please.

Deputy Counsel, if you'd like to come back up, I'd love to give you a pin as well. Thank you.

Lauren, if you'd like to come up and get your pen as well.

All right, thank you, everybody. Madam Clerk, if you'll read in the rules for comments from the public.

Thank you, ma'am. Did we have speakers left over from the last meeting?

Thank you, sir. Thank you. Rosalind McIntyre. Ms. McIntyre, good morning.

Thank you, ma'am. Lane Flynn. Lane Flynn. Lane Flynn. Good morning.

Thank you. Lee Taylor. Lee Taylor. Lee Taylor, are you here? All right. Good morning.

Thank you, sir. Kiana Moore. Good morning, Ms. Moore.

Thank you, Ms. Warren. Jim Dunaway. Ms. Dunaway, I believe she's not here today. She actually sent an email telling us she wouldn't be here. So next speaker.

We're still on from last meeting, right? All right. I don't see Ms. Davis.

Regina Roberts. Do not see them. Steven Benny. Mr. Benny, good morning.

Say it again. Mangum. Gina Mangum. Gina Mangum. Thank you. Good morning, Ms. Mangum.

Mr. Story, please come forward. Good morning.

Thank you, ma'am. That exposes the time. Thank you so much.

Madam Presiding Officer, I'd like to make a motion to extend public comment by 15 minutes. Is there a second?

Would you like us to hit our buttons or show of hands? All in favor? Sure. How many more speakers, Madam Clerk?

Nine. Do we have a 42-page agenda? There's a motion and a second. The motion was 15 minutes. Is that correct? Yes, ma'am. Call the question. All in favor of 15 minutes. All opposed to 15 minutes. Is there an alternative motion?

We now have a motion for 10 minutes and seconded by Commissioner Long-Spears. Call the question. All in favor of extending public comment? Yes. That's three. All opposed? That is four.

Motion to extend public comment by two speakers.

Madam Presiding Officer, I'd like to make a substitute motion. Motion to begin working on our 42-page agenda.

Commissioner Terry, you've requested to speak. We have a substitute motion by Commissioner Patrick, seconded by Commissioner Messiah. Yes, thank you. You have the floor, sir.

I just want to recognize that we had, so the issue with the limit of the public comment time is that not everyone gets to speak, and so then they get put to the next meeting. And then people who come to this meeting get delayed for the next meeting because the previous speakers. We heard that we had four or five speakers earlier that came at the last meeting. So at the very least, I think we should just catch up. So if we could just extend public comment for a few this time, maybe a few more next time. maybe we'll get caught up, maybe we need to amend our rules to allow a little more public co

Commissioner Long-Speakers. Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. It was brought to my attention during public comment that we had a speaker who attended the last business meeting, submitted a card, and was not called today to speak. The error was discovered and the clerk quickly responded. and added this speaker to the list. So she did have an opportunity to speak. So I just wanted to point out to the commissioners that I don't know if anybody else in the audience submitted a speaker card last meeting, and you didn't have the opportunity last meeting or this meeting to speak. But I do believe t

Thank you. I'm seeing no further requests to speak. The alternative motion by Commissioner Patrick was to not have, I'm going to kind of paraphrase, was to not have.

The motion, Madam Presiding Officer, was to begin our agenda.

Seconded by, I think there was a dueling second. So it was Marita Davis-Johnson and Nicole Masaya. So let's call the question. Who is ready to start our business meeting? Who is against starting for this this meeting? That's the motion, sir. I'm sorry. All right. Thank you so much.

Madam Providing Officer, I'm requesting a point of privilege, please. And I can tell you why. And I will request that the law department please come forward.

Thank you. We had a DeKalb County employee today request to speak during public comment as her capacity as a resident, not as a staff member or an employee of the Board of Commissioners. I don't agree with the denial of her right to speak as a citizen of this community. So if our interim, for just a little longer, county attorney would please come forward and please opine on this. If you are not comfortable providing a full analysis and an opinion today, it is something I would request a memo on as well. But again, I fully believe that every single member of this community, whether you're an e

Thank you very much. And can you do that before the next business meeting?

Thank you. Interim Attorney Phillips, I would also like to know who denied that request, because it did not come from the presiding officer. So I would like to know that. Thank you. Received.

I am fine with it public because it didn't come from me.

It did not come from me. If I may, I'd like to help us.

so we will we will address that for you privately in we can do it private or public and then if we could also look at the card and if she was speaking for herself or trying to circumvent a decision that was made earlier in the day that would be great too thank you interim attorney phillips received commissioner messiah you have requested to speak are you considered your time commissioner long spears

Actually, I could just expand on that briefly. So just to give a little context around it, Captain Gary Menard is a personal, he passed away, but still is a personal friend of many of us in this room. And so many folks from Decatur came today to honor his memory. His birthday was last week. And we miss him dearly. He did so much for the unhoused, so much for the residents of the city of Decatur. We did have myself, who wanted a point of privilege. You did decline that, and that was fine. Prior to my requesting that, we did have an employee of DeKalb County who also wanted to honor his memory.

Thank you so much, Madam PO. I just want to say that we've had employees past and present that have even gotten a chance to speak today. Ms. Moore is, or Jones Moore, she is a past employee of DeKalb County and had an opportunity to speak today. So the idea that we don't allow or leadership does not allow employees to speak is grossly false. Also, I will say that it makes it a little bit easier for us to get to our agenda and get to our work when there isn't political play where individuals send out emails commissioners send out emails with false narratives without links to the agenda items wh

It is very germane. This is not germane.

Actually, I'm going to do a point of order. We are not even on an agenda item to have discussion at this moment. We just said we were not going to allow the public to speak, so why should I allow both of you commissioners to opine? So if we can please start our public hearing and get to the business of the county, which is what we are here to do today. Madam Clerk, if you'll please read in the instructions for the public hearing.

Thank you, Madam Clerk. We have one item for public hearing. I will read that one. And the next item is decision only. And at that time, I will pass the gavel. For the first item, it is 2026-0941. Excuse me. All commission districts, home rule ordinance to amend the pension code of DeKalb County, Georgia, 1962. Georgia laws 3088 as amended to add a death benefit for beneficiaries of certain planned participants who die in the line of duty. As officers, employees, or deputies of DeKalb County on or after October 1st, 2026, to confirm that no participant can add, replace, or remove a designated

Thank you so much. And this is public hearing. So is there anyone in the audience who is here to speak in favor of this item? Is there anyone in the audience to speak in favor of this item? Seeing no one, is there anyone here to speak in opposition of this item? Anyone in opposition of this item? All right. Sir, if you will come back and give staff recommendation.

Good to see you. Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. On behalf of the ARPS Committee, I do move to approve the June 15th version on the second reading.

Is there a second? Second. Thank you, feature button. Commissioner Bolton, you have requested to speak. You have a floor, ma'am.

yes ma'am i do just want to make sure we acknowledge considering some of the comments that were made earlier today with respect to the decatur chief officer rose firefighter fan those who were killed or did die in the line of duty this ordinance, this new ordinance was birthed out of some of those situations that had occurred this year. And we would be honored if to approve is to honor, but if the board would support moving this item forward as we honor those that were honored this morning during public comment. And I yield back.

Thank you, Commissioner Bolton. I see no further requests to speak. Please open the machine for the vote. We have one abstention because Commissioner Davis-Johnson cannot vote on pension items. Motion carries. Thank you so much. At this time, I will pass the gavel for the next item.

The next agenda item is a decision only 2026-0712. Commission districts four and seven application are rooted in Christ Academy LLC, care of Chiquita Stokes for a special land use permit for a child daycare facility for up to six children in the R100 residential medium lot 100 zoning district at 6706 Princeton Park Trail. Great morning, Deputy Planner.

Thank you so much. Seeing as it's decision only, there's not a public hearing element to it. And we have a motion and a second. The motion is for a full cycle deferral.

So does it technically need to be- My question is related to that. And my question is, was community council and planning commission made aware of the 300 feet distance prior to their recommendation for approval?

And I'm sorry, really quickly, can we get speaking time on the board just really briefly?

Well, I haven't been acknowledged yet to speak. I was just addressing what she was bringing up.

but I may not need to once you respond. You ready? I think she's looking for that answer.

Okay. One of the reasons I am supporting, and I understand what you said, but prior to what you said, one of the reasons I was supporting a full cycle is to get that feedback from community council knowing that they were not made aware.

So then would that technically be a two-cycle deferral?

I will take that friendly amendment to my motion.

Does your second still stand? My second stands, and I still had a question. Another question? Yeah. Okay. So my other question was, and this has occurred before, I think on the same agenda where there is a state approved facility within that 1,000 foot difference or 1,000 foot radius. Because that happened with this application as well, I would like to take this time since we have that deferral to do some research to determine how they are state certified, but they are not approved through the county and how that impacts our capacity to make a confirmatory decision based on that distance regul

OK. So with that being said, for me, the way our code reads, there might be a bit of ambiguity. Because if they're not registered with the county, do we still consider them with respect to that 1,000 foot distance requirement? sure so um because up to three you know we wouldn't normally know they existed and with these we didn't initially know they existed because they're not registered with the county it was happenstance so up to three um yeah absolutely

OK. Thank you so much. And I yield back.

Thank you so much, Commissioner Bolton. Any other questions? Can we open the machines up for a vote, please?

That motion passes. Pass the gavel back.

Thank you so much. Appreciate your assistance on that. That concludes our public hearing and zoning items. We're now top of page four. There are no items under appeals, so we have a couple items. Under appointments not requiring Board action and for information only from Board of Commissioners item 2026-1240 from District 5, an item to record the appointment of Renee Kael to the DeKalb County Environmental Justice and Sustainability Resident Advisory Group as a District 5 appointee appointed by Commissioner Marita Davis-Johnson. And then from the Chief Executive Office, item 2026-1248, all Com

Move to action. Madam PO, I have a motion to approve agenda item ending in 1127 and that ending in 1128 as approved out of the PEX committee.

Thank you, sir. Seeing no request to speak, please open the machine for the vote. Motion carries. And then finally, item 2026-1196, all commission districts appoint Boniface G. Eccles Esquire to pose for the Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority, or MARTA, board of directors.

Thank you. Is there a second? PWI item? Thank you, Commissioner Terry. Seeing no requests to speak, please open the machine for the vote. Motion carries. Thank you. We are now on the consent agenda, and we do have one item we will be pulling, but are you ready, Madam Deputy Presiding Officer? Yes, ma'am. Ready. All right. Under Airport, item 2026-1095, Commission District 1, Super District 6, standardized T-hanger space lease agreement with Marvin Zolomany. There is no cost to the county. Move for action. Item 2026-1092, approval of minutes for the August 18, 2026 Committee of the Whole meetin

Move for action. And with that, Madam Presiding Officer, I move to approve items 20261095, 20261092, 20261239, 0704, and 1229. And is there a second? Second. Thank you so much. Seeing no requests to speak, please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve carries.

We do acknowledge that we see Attorney Phillips in our meetings all the time and Attorney Welch and maybe Attorney Johnson, but we are well aware there's a full team supporting them behind the scenes, so it's great to see you all today. Thank you. And also our added counsel that come in and help us. Yes. It takes a lot to support us. We appreciate that. So we did have one item we had to pull from the consent agenda, so I'll read that now. Item 2026-0731, approval of minutes of the Board of Commissioners zoning meeting of August 13th, 2026.

Madam Presiding Officer, I move to defer item 20260731 to the September 15th meeting.

Second. If you'll hit your buttons for me. Seeing no request to speak, please, thank you. Voting is open. Commissioner Terry. Commissioner Davis-Johnson. Thank you so much. That deferral carries. Thank you. We are now bottom of page six under preliminary items. Under Fire and Rescue Services, Item 2026-1246, Commission Districts 2 and 6, enter governmental agreement with the City of Brookhaven to enter into a 50-year lease agreement.

Item 2026-1247, Commission Districts 1, Super District 7, intergovernmental agreement with the City of Tucker to acquire a portion of land lot 214 of approximately 1,200 square feet at 4345 Cowan Road for the sum of $58,000 paid to DeKalb County.

Move for action, and with that, Madam Presiding Officer, on behalf of the IRPS Committee, I do move to approve items 2026, 1246, and 1247.

We have a motion and a second. Commissioner Long-Spear's request to speak. You have the floor.

Thank you very much, Madam Presiding Officer. I want to acknowledge, and this pertains to item 2026-1246, again, our Public Safety Director, Fulham, as well as our awesome, relatively new Fire Chief, but not new to DeKalb County, Zach Williams, the City of Brookhaven, and also Mayor Park for entertaining this opportunity to put a fire station right there in front of Blackburn Park. That is a hotspot area for calls, and I truly am so hopeful that we'll be able to. Point of order. Please allow me to finish. Madam Presiding Officer.

Commissioners, we all need to form today, please. Thank you. Mr. Long-Spears, continue. Continue, please. You do have the floor.

Thank you. My clock was robbed of some time, so if I require extra time, please roll it back. All right, so again, I just want to thank all of the point of order.

I want to again thank everybody who came together and recognized the need for a fire station in that area. I proudly represent the entire city of Brookhaven, a tiny, itty-bitty portion of the city of Chambly, and I really do hope that this is a solution to truly, at the end of the day, reduce response time and save lives. So thank you very much to our public safety folks, Mr. Williams, Brookhaven, Madam CEO, and everybody else that supported this. I yield back.

Thank you, Commissioner Longspear. Commissioner Bolton.

Thank you, and I just wanted to acknowledge for both items 1246 and 1247, both of these will be fire stations. Your SPLOST dollars at work in both Brookhaven and Tucker, so Super 6 and Super 7. And just want to say thank you to the team for the work that you're doing, and the community is very excited. We've been receiving the emails, and they do acknowledge the work that all of you guys put in, so thank you so much. I yield back.

Thank you, Commissioner Bolton. I see no further requests to speak. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion carries. We are now middle of page 7. This is purchasing and contracting items for the FAB committee. Item 2026-1195, change order number 1 to contract number 2000413, augmented procurement staffing services for use by purchasing and contracting to obtain augmented procurement staff seeking increase in contract funds and ratification of consent to assignment of contract to National Institute of Governmental Purchasing Incorporated, effective July 1st, 2026, awarded to National Insti

And move for action. Motion to defer items 1195 and 1197 to the September 15 BOC, and they will be heard in the BAP committee this afternoon.

Second. If you'll hit your buttons, please. There we go. All right. Thank you. I see no request to speak. Thank you. Motion carries. We are now purchasing and contracting for the Ops Committee, top of page 8, item 2026-1167, cooperative agreement, technology solutions, products, and services for use by the Department of Innovation and Technology to obtain three years of managed security, monitoring services, for the county's network infrastructure awarded to MGT Impact Solutions LLC amount not to exceed $1,755,900. Move for action. Yes, ma'am. Item 2026-1172, Cooperative Agreement, Technology

I make a motion that 1167 and 1172 be approved as approved in the Ops Committee.

Second. We have a motion and a second. No requests to speak. Please open machine. A motion to approve carries. Thank you. We're now bottom of page 8 under Purchasing and Contracting for the PECS Committee. Item 2026-0915, Cooperative Agreement, Open Air Structures with Related Equipment and Services, Fees by Recreation, Parks, and Cultural Affairs, Subtain a Viewing Platform Pavilion, Awarded to RomTech, Inc., Amount Not Deceived, $178,450.

Motion to defer to the September 15th VOC meeting with a stop and pass.

Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Commissioner Long-Spears. Seeing no request to speak, please open the machine for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Top of page 9, item 2026-1058. Invitation number 2026-042 ITB nuisance abatement and remediation services for use by the Department of Co compliance and enforcement to obtain services to reduce blight in the county, including abatement of vacant and abandoned properties. Recommended award to the overall lowest responsive and responsible bidders, Cascade Services, Inc. and Executive Realty Solutions, Inc. amount not to exceed $450,

Motion to defer to 915, BOC meeting of the stock index.

Thank you. Second. Thank you, Commissioner Long-Spears. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Middle top of page nine, purchasing and contracting for the PWI committee. Item 2026-0767, change order number three to contract number 1281318. And change order number six to contract number 1281319, sidewalks and roadways. for use by public works, transportation, roads, and drainage, and recreation, parks, and cultural affairs to obtain construction services to improve sidewalks, drainage, roads, bike lanes, multi-use trails, and curb and shoulders, seeking increase in contr

Madam Presiding Officer, move for action.

Thank you, sir. Item 2026-0939, Renewal of Contract Number 2000420, Curb Bumping and Street Sweeping for Use by Public Works Solid Waste Management and Beautification To obtain curb bumping and street sweeping services throughout the county, exercising first renewal option through August 31, 2027, awards of paid co-services, LLC, amount not to exceed $120,000.

Move for action. Madam Presiding Officer, I make a motion to approve 2026-0767 and 2026-0939 as approved at PWI. Thank you. Seconded by Commissioner Terry. Thank you. Please open the sheen.

Motion to approve carries. There is now just a substitute for the next item. We're on top of page 10. Item 2026-1010. Change order number three to contract number 2000167, CNG Fueling Station Maintenance and Repairs, for use by Public Works Solid Waste Management to obtain routine and on-call repair and maintenance services to the compressed natural gas fueling stations throughout the county seeking increase in contract funds and term through November 30th, 2027, awarded to Atlanta Gas Light Company, amount not to exceed $200,000.

Madam Presiding Officer, I make a motion to approve the substitute for agenda item 2026-1010, and I'd also like to invite staff to speak that once we have a second.

The substitute you have in- Can I get a second first, please? Okay, go ahead, Ms. Butler.

Thank you. All right, seeing no other requests to speak, please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve carries. Item 2026-1030, invitation number 2025-167ITB, Seminole Road MSW Landfill 2026 Gas Collection and Control System Expansion, fused by Public Works Solid Waste Management to obtain construction services for the expansion of the GCCS. At the Seminole Road landfill, recommend award to the lowest responsive and responsible bidder, Blue Flame Crew, LLC, amount not to exceed $2,397,297. Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. Motion to approve 2026-1030. Thank you.

Seconded by Commissioner Terry. You have requested to speak, sir. You have four.

Yes. Very quickly, just wanted to acknowledge at the PWI committee meeting we discussed with CO Williams about getting an update on the other contract for managing the existing renewable energy. So I think, did you say it was going to come back in October with that, or was the timeline on that update?

Okay. Just remind me again, because we approved that contract, was it three years ago at this point? OK. So hopefully, when we come back in October, we could have kind of a, I don't know if it's like a go or no go decision. Because I know the contract kind of, I guess, um i don't think it's extended or how we manage that but you know at some point if we're not collecting the gas we're sort of missing out on you know millions of dollars of revenue you're speaking about the renewable uh yes energy facility but we have a couple of contracts uh and we'll be able to discuss all of them yeah yeah that's right okay thank you thank you commissioner terry please open machine for the vote

Motion to approve carries. Item 2026-1066, Commission District 3 Super District 7 Request for Qualifications 2025-113, RFQ Design Services for Flat Shoals Parkway. SR 155, sidewalk from Columbia Drive to Wesley Chapel Road, PI number 0019622, for use by public works transportation to obtain design services for the addition of 2.1 miles of new sidewalks on both sides of Flat Shoals Parkway to create continuous sidewalks. meet current ADA standards and installation of a protected pedestrian crossing. Recommend award to the highest scoring proposer at Ken's Realist USA Inc. Amount not to exceed $

Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. Motion to defer this item until the September 15 BOC with a prior stop at PWI. And I'm just adding for record, this is being deferred because it's over $3 million. And we're waiting for Mr. Lavoie-Campbell's team to come back with the audit review.

All right. Commissioner Terry has seconded. Thank you. Seeing no request to speak, please open the machine for a vote. Motion to defer carries. Top of page 11, item 2026-1114, Commission District 5, invitation number 2026-058, application of herbicides at Pole Bridge Wastewater Treatment Plant for use by Department of Watershed Management to obtain herbicide and application services at the Pole Bridge Water Treatment Plant. Recommend award to the lowest responsive and responsible bidders, Optera Solutions, Inc. and Pearlway Turf, Inc. Total amount not to exceed $300,000.

Yes, sir. Item 2026-1117. Cooperative agreement grounds maintenance equipment and related attachments for use by public works fleet management to be used by beautification to obtain six Kabuta mowers with attachments awarded to Kabuta Tractor Corp. Care of Lashley Tractor Sales amount not to exceed $169,375.50. Move for action. yes sir item 2026-1153 change order number two to contract number one three eight one one zero nine design build services for snap finger advanced wastewater treatment facility expansion phase 3b project for use by the department watershed management to obtain design se

Move for action. Madam Presiding Officer, I'd like to make a motion to approve the following items. Agenda item 2026-1114, 1117, and 1153. And then I also want to make note that we did have some conversation at PWI about item 1114. There was some discussion on the hay as well as the herbicides. And a reminder to central staff as well as to the chief executive that we'd like to have this discussion back at PWI so that we can address some of the questions that were raised during the meeting.

Thank you, sir. Commissioner Terry has seconded and requested to speak. You have the floor.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, Commissioner Patrick is correct. We did discuss the herbicide treatment, but I think it also opened up the conversation about having a tour of Polbridge for either PWI or maybe just for anyone that wants to attend. I know it's in Districts 5 and 7, so hopefully you all will Welcome us to your district. It is a countywide facility, but a really special place and quite beautiful, actually, with 300 acres of grassland, I think another 200 acres of about a forest buffer. So appreciate that, Mr. Chair. And then I did want to, just in case anyone from the public was foll

Thank you, Commissioner Terry. Commissioner Bolton.

I just want to re-emphasize, Commissioner Terry did remind us all that that's 5 and 7 for 11-14. 5 and 7. I yield back.

Thank you, ma'am. All right. No other requests to speak. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve those items carries. We're now on top of page 12. Item 2026-1165, invitation number 2026-004, Asphalt to Concrete Pavement Repair for Use by Departments of Watershed Management, Recreation, Parks, Cultural Affairs, and Facilities Management, and Public Works Road and Drainage. Recommend award to the lowest responsive and responsible bidders. ANS Paving Inc. and Auto Code Development Inc. Total amount not to exceed $15,850,000.

Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. Motion to defer to the September 15 VOC with a prior stop at PWI. This is an item, as you called out, well over $3 million, and this is something we're waiting for Mr. Campbell's office to give us his recommendation on.

Thank you, Commissioner Patrick. Commissioner Terry has seconded. Please open the sheet for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Item 2026-1168, change order number one to contract number 2000222, roadway bulk deicing for use by Puppet Works Roads and Drainage, which consists of the purchase of deicing materials to make the sand-salt mixture used to maintain the county's roadways, parking lots, and sidewalks. Seeking an increase in contract funds awarded to FM Shelton Inc amount not to exceed $100,000. Move for action. Yes, sir. Item 2026-1174, Kahua Project Management Information System Governa

Motion to defer to the September 15 BOC to be heard in PECS.

Second. You drew a button, Commissioner Wong-Spears. Thank you so much. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Under Watershed Management, item 2026-1173, Commission District 1, Super District 6, water utility installation for upcoming city of Dunwoody project cost to the county not to exceed $2,894,225. Motion to approve. Thank you. Seconded by Commissioner Terry. Seeing no request to speak, please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve carries. Item 2026-1183, All Commission Districts United States Geological Survey Five-Year Agreement.

Yes. Motion to defer to the September 15 BOC with a prior stop at PWI.

Thank you. Is there a second, please? Thank you. And before we vote, if I remember, Mr. Chair, on this item, there is a dollar amount over the $3 million for the county.

If we could get the dollar amount in the title, that would be helpful. Thank you. Thank you. All right. If we'll open the scheme for the vote. Motion to defer carries. And we are now on top of page 14. Items for decision by the board under Board of Commissioners, item 2026-1234, all commission districts to amend previously adopted agenda item 2025-0240 with an updated resolution to establish independent CIP monitor roles and responsibilities.

Yes. For purposes of discussion, motion to approve.

Seconded by Commissioner Terry. And that was motion to approve? Okay. You hit your button to request to speak.

Thank you. Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. So we had a discussion yesterday about the CIP monitor. Of course, this is a position or a person that would come in and provide independent advice, I think is the right way to frame it, of what's happening with the CIP projects, and this relates to water and sewer in particular at this time. I think there was a good discussion. Unfortunately, Commissioner Terry left it a little bit early, so I had suggested at the meeting that because it was only two commissioners, myself and the presiding officer, that had recommended this to move forward, that

All right. And go ahead, Commissioner Terry.

Thank you. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Sorry I had to leave a little early. I had another meeting. But I did review the packet that CentralSAT put together. So I'm comfortable with the updates and changes. So if I was there, I would have joined you in recommending it.

Understood. No shame cast. I know we get busy in special calls, things that pop up unanticipatedly. So thank you, Commissioner. Thank you.

I didn't get to attend that special call. I was hoping that the meeting I did attend, you guys would have been able to speak about it. I did send an email reply on August 19th with some of the questions and concerns that I had. Did you guys get an opportunity to discuss some of the commissioner's concerns?

So we did not, and I'm glad you mentioned that. We were sort of bumping up against time constraints yesterday, so Again, the committee, the two of us liked what we saw. I guess we've also heard Commissioner Terry said he was relatively comfortable with what was there. But this is a big discussion item, and it might be appropriate to say let's bring it back to the COW or bring it back to a special called and have those questions answered as well.

Okay. It was a couple things. I would like to discuss them, but I wouldn't say they are anything that could be a major holdup, but depending on how the conversation goes, commissioners may feel the same. So I don't have a problem with supporting the majority's decision, but I did have some concerns that I did want to discuss.

And to that point, We need to get this right. And so I think if there are concerns, even if they're small, minor questions, I think it's worth taking the time for that conversation.

Do you, Commissioner Bolton, you still have questions?

Yes, and I think Cal would be great, just to give a little two cents in terms of the opportunity to hear some of those concerns and address the same, if we could have those. And if you're amenable to Cal, that'd be great. I yield back.

Thank you so much. I believe, okay, so Mr. Chair, your original motion is to approve. There's been two commissioners who would kind of- You still want to move forward but still have a presentation?

Yes, in-count if you don't mind, but I'm going to move forward.

Okay. I will just call the- You ready to vote then?

Well, I'll tell you what, one of the things I realized we didn't, we usually go through a checklist of questions and I just wanted, if I could call on the newly minted county attorney. This is just a true, your phrase, true to form. Your office has had a chance to review this, and is that correct? Got a yes today. We have not had a chance to review it.

Okay, okay. Again, because of the need to get this right, I'd like to change my motion to a motion to defer. I would suggest to the next COW if that's appropriate, Madam Presiding Officer. That way all commissioners can be present for the conversation. But that is my modified motion.

All right. Commissioner Davis-Johnson has requested to speak.

Yeah, just briefly. And, of course, I'm glad that this has come to the point where we are now. There was extensive conversation when I first introduced this. We spoke with ethics. We spoke to legal. We spoke with all the commissioners on it. And so we're at this point. And I'm glad. And so I think that any questions that any of us have, hopefully, It can be addressed in the cow meeting because we're like eight months out or seven months out. And so we need to start monitoring what's happening. So thank you all.

Thank you, Commissioner Davis-Johnson. Please open the machine for the vote. Yeah, we need a certain date.

I'm sorry. When is the next count? And is that?

So defer to September 15th would be the voting meeting with the stopper count.

I'll be missing a couple meetings. September. Could we defer it to the September 29 BOC and then have it at the, I think, at the 22nd, Cal?

Let me just make sure about that. That'll work.

That works? OK, thank you. So September 29th with a prior stop in the account. The chair of the committee will be present. All right, thank you so much. Machines are open for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Under District 2, item 2024-0842, All Commissioned Districts, a resolution to amend the Board of Commissioners Standing Procedural Rules, but this is an ops item.

Yes, based on the recommendation of the Ops Committee, this is our second reading, and I move to approve.

second thank you commissioner terry you've requested to speak here before yes thank you madam presiding officer um i would like to request that in the spirit of consensus building and compromise and also i think the intent of these rule changes to to remove the, I guess the three boat rule is what we're calling it from this rule change. And the main reasons why I'm requesting this is number one, well, a couple of things I'll start with. One, just the general consensus and understanding that each commissioner is elected. For district commissioners, it's over 150,000 residents. If you're a super

Thank you, Commissioner Terry. Commissioner Longspeed. Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. I have three points I'd like to make. One of them I will ask the law department. Can we get her time on the clock? There we go. To come forward to the podium, and I may present a substitute motion. So my first point is the law department was sent a request by Commissioner Terry, and we had previously, I co-sponsored, co-drafted, I guess, This memo to the Board of Commissioners just expressing our concerns over this three sponsor rule. I appreciate you guys very quickly reviewing that memo and then provid

OK. All right. So you haven't made any other suggestions or changes related to the presiding officer's role. As the PO last year, I remember I did have that privilege to do it. So thank you for that clarification. All right. The next comment I have is related to the purpose of the committee. Thank you, sir. Related to the committee structure. This was actually a suggestion made in email last year. And there, I believe, was some commentary through email about this new rule. So I don't recall when it was, but I believe it's taken a full year to kind of advance it forward. And my feeling on this

It was substituted. So, County Attorney, that sounded like an official, efficient substitute motion. You didn't seem to object to any of that.

Understood. Thank you. All right. There's a subsequent motion seconded by Commissioner Terry, I believe. All right. Commissioner Bolton, you've requested to speak.

Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. First, I want to say I am a supporter of the three co-sponsor rule that we're proposing for the Blue Book. However, considering what our colleagues have just communicated, I was thinking that a compromise could potentially be that committee chairs can add items to their committee. So not an individual adding to that item and that's similar to the presiding officer having the ability to add and set for the cow. But so if a commissioner and the committee chair are both in agreement only for that committee, an item be aided at the discretion of the

Thank you, Commissioner Bolton. Commissioner Terry, your second opportunity.

Thank you. I think that is an interesting proposal, Commissioner Bolton.

Hold on one second. Let's get your time right. Three minutes. Three minutes. Just a second.

All right. OK, thank you. I think that is an interesting proposal. Were you saying that added to the committee agenda or the board agenda?

Well, everything has to start with the Cal and then be assigned to a committee. But essentially, yes to both.

OK, so a committee chair and a member of the committee would be able also to add an item to the agenda as it relates to that committee?

Just to that committee. So if you wanted to add something to ERT, you could either go the route and the three of you, go you and your two co-sponsors, or if the committee chair wants to have that item on their agenda, then it could be proposed.

You can't do just a committee agenda the way we're currently set up.

It would be on the CAL, but assigned to that committee. You're just getting buy-in from the committee chair.

The committee chair. Okay, gotcha. Okay. So, well, I'd love to – I like what you're saying. I'd like to – can we defer this? Because if we pass that, then we'll have to do another – amendment, right? I guess that would be the next rule change.

I will say this is separate from the three rule. This was just an addition to. So not to hold up the vote today. Okay.

So can I ask a clarifying question that might help some of this? So Attorney Phillips said Just make sure I'm understanding this right. If we were to continue with the second read and approval today, but then we know there is additional items that are under consideration. And so with what Commissioner Bolton was just opining to, that could be a consideration in that next round. And it would just add to the rules that we would pass today. Is that a correct understanding?

Right, so that would allow for the original motion. We could move forward with what's before us currently, but knowing that we've already discussed that there are additional changes that need to come out of the Ops Committee and get consensus. So it sounds like this could be one of those items. Just wanted to make sure we're clear.

Okay. Well, I like where this is going. I probably still won't support the rule change, but hopefully if we can work out in a future ops meeting that addition, I think that would go a long way to helping address my concerns.

Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Terry. Commissioner Long-Spears, your second opportunity.

Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. That was good. Interesting idea, actually. So I just want to make sure I really clearly understand it. Because I think there was just a little confusion with the back and forth. So what you're suggesting is this be not something we're voting on today, but an additional rule that can be deliberated in the Ops Committee in the future. So let me make something easy up. So say we're suggesting that we change our blue book to purple or green, right? This is just an example. Let me think here. So let's just say that would be in the Ops Committee. So somebody wants

Okay. Cool beans. All right. And then she likes that idea. And so would you have to have, just based on what your suggestion is, the committee chair and another member of the committee? So that would, in effect, be two people making that recommendation? Or could it be the committee chair and then the person that's sponsoring it so I don't sit on the ops committee? Okay. So is that acceptable for a non-ops committee member, a non-committee member to partner with the chair so that would constitute two sponsors of that?

Yes, if you get buy-in from the committee chair, you just need that one additional person or any three commissioners.

Okay, all right. Well, it's certainly an interesting idea, and I would definitely love the opportunity to explore that further. Thank you so much. You're back.

Thank you, Commissioner Messiah, your first opportunity.

Thank you so much, Madam PO. And as initially hesitant as I was, I support us moving forward with this. Particularly as Chair of PECS, I've seen how legislation that hasn't been properly vetted, comes before us and it does not go to the legal department first. It is not something that's discussed with other departments. To be quite frank, it is utilized as political play and rhetoric. And what it does is it not only ties up and makes difficult our work here as commissioners, it also sometimes inadvertently, and sometimes to be quite frank, people do it intentionally, misrepresents and creates

Thank you, Commissioner Messiah. Excuse me. So currently the motion on the floor is a substitute motion. And I'm seeing no further requests to speak. So the substitute motion essentially was to remove the three-sponsor rule and then defer for 30 days. Is that correct, Commissioner Long-Spears?

That is the substitute. Okay. Thank you. And that was seconded by Commissioner Terry. So that is what we'll vote on first. Please open the machine for the vote. The substitute motion fails. So now we're back to the original motion, which was to approve. And I forget who seconded that original motion. Commissioner Bolton. So if you can hit your buttons for me again, please. Let the ops chair do it.

So let's open that machine for that vote. The motion does carry. I will say that I did like the additional conversation, so I hope we can move forward with some of that additional conversation.

If I could just say something in response.

Yeah, I would just like to say and respond to that to please those that have questions, comments, input on the commission, please come to the ops meeting so that we can discuss it fully. Commissioner Johnson. Terry is at just about every ops committee meeting in person. I think he had one teleconference ops committee. But I would just encourage everyone that has input into the items that we're discussing, not only in the blue book, but for the charter review. Please come to the Ops Committee so that we can fully discuss them, and they won't have to be discussed in the business meeting. Thank y

Thank you, Commissioner Davis-Johnson. Top of page 17, item 2026-0596, all commission districts, an ordinance to regulate the restraint and transportation of animals and for other purposes, and this is an IRPS item. Move for action. Move for action. Yes, ma'am. Page 18, item 2026-0728, all commission districts and ordinance amend the code of DeKalb County, Georgia, Chapter 5, to regulate the sale of dogs, cats, and rabbits in pet shops.

Move for action. And with that, madam. Presiding officer on behalf of the arts committee, I move to defer both item 0596 and 0728 to the September 15th BOC with a prior stop in arts. Second. Second. Go ahead.

Thank you. We have a motion and a second. Commissioner Longspeaker, as you requested to speak, you have four.

Yes, ma'am. Both of these items are a District 2 sponsored item, and I did want to acknowledge the IRPS chair for being gracious and allowing us to bring in speakers both virtually and in person to speak to these topics. One topic related to transient sales we have discussed several times now in a committee meeting. We do have the retail sales ban, which is one I believe coming up on a future IRPS agenda. So have you determined what date, Madam IRPS Chair, you guys will be hearing that item? Inquiring minds want to know.

Well, we haven't worked it out yet, but we'll work out with you, because I know you have another speaker.

That's correct, that's why we're trying to start coordinating that. Awesome, okay, very good. Thank you so much, and I yield back.

Thank you, Commissioner Long-Spears. I see no further requests to speak. Please open the chamber for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Thank you. Bottom of page 18, a district three item handing, being handed a substitute for this item 2026 dash 0 5 5 0 to adopt an ordinance and amend the code of DeKalb County to address public safety, drifting, unauthorized camping, and certain public nuisance behaviors. And this is a PECS item.

Motion to approve committee with the additional substituted language. Is there a second?

Thank you so much. Are you requesting a speaker? Is that a hangover from last time?

No, ma'am. I am requesting to speak, please. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. All right. There has been considerable dialogue about this item. And I wanted to address a couple of issues that have been brought to my attention. The first thing is that I get all my papers organized. This huge stack all relates to this. OK, this item has been active now since the spring. So it's been ongoing now for many, many months. The date of the previous version was dated June 9th, and I just had my office confirm that. On June 8th, we did receive considerable feedback from Dr. Alan Ferguson, our housing

Commissioner Messiah, I'm the presiding officer. I will allow her to make the substitute motion outside of her time as I would allow any commissioner to do. She can continue to make her substitute motion.

Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. So I will repeat. I am making a substitute motion for item 2026-0550 to defer this item for 90 days to the second business meeting in November, that date is November 17th, to give an opportunity for the PECS chair to host a special called PECS meeting or an opportunity for our law enforcement and public safety partners to come together to the same table to really discuss this and make sure we put an ordinance forward that's in the best interest of our unhoused citizens. Thank you.

that is it is there a second for the substitute motion second okay so commissioner long spears has made a substitute motion seconded by commissioner terry commissioner you have the floor with your first opportunity to speak thank you so much so um one i want to address the fact that this is not a housing ordinance as politically motivated as my colleague is here

sending several emails or having folks post on social media and calling this a ordinance to arrest the unhoused. I reiterate, this is not a housing ordinance. So it would be great and it would be appropriate for Dr. Ferguson and others that are focused on housing. to weigh in specifically in and around housing if that's what it was about. But what it is specifically about is vagrancy and particular behaviors that are concerning to specific areas, I would say, inundated in District 3 in and around South DeKalb County. It is about that and public safety. I have seniors that are concerned trying

Thank you, Commissioner Messiah. Commissioner Patrick, your first opportunity.

Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. Commissioner Spears, or Madam Chair, to my colleague, if you could forward that email one more time, I apologize. I did not read that. It sounded... It did sound very on mark on a lot of things, but I would appreciate being able to read that. Absolutely. We are in a situation where we have two people that are right, or we have two opinions that seem to be right. There is a concern with the homelessness, even up in District 1. Of course, we can remember some of the events that happened in Atlanta over the summer. At the Kroger, at Chamblee Tucker Road, there

So I'm clear and I think we're all clear. You're asking, Commissioner Patrick, you're asking for a friendly amendment from the substitute motion that Commissioner Longspear has made?

If she would consider that, I think that would be a...

May I respond, Madam Pio? Yes. So, yes, I will accept that friendly amendment to October 27th, whether you said a stop in committee or committees. So one question I do have for the sponsor of the item. I'm going to let you respond to that one piece. Okay, that's fine. We'll do that. I'll include the other part in my follow-up. No problem. Yes, I accept your friendly amendment. Thank you. Thank you.

Commissioner Davis-Johnson, you have the floor next.

Um, yeah, I think, I think that we're talking about a very complex issue, you know, it's not black and white, you know? Um, and I understand, uh, what, uh, commissioner Messiah is attempting to do. I understand, uh, some of the things that you're saying. Uh, but I'm going to tell you, I was at a service station. A couple of weeks ago, and a lady got out of a car with a child, came up to me and said that they needed to get home. They didn't have any gas, would I have them get gas? I went in the store, charged $10 worth of gas for her. And as I was walking out, I saw a man get out of the car, go

Let me make sure we can do two friendly amendments. Yes, it's Rennie Phillips.

If the first propose of a friendly amendment is comfortable with the 30 days, I will accept the second propose of a friendly amendment. But I think he needs to maybe provide feedback.

I'm comfortable with that. And the idea of us being collaborative and working towards a solution I think is a good thing right there.

Okay, so if you're good with 30 days. All right, so yes, ma'am, I will accept that friendly amendment. Thank you.

Okay, and do you concede your time, Commissioner Davis-Johnson? All right, thank you. So we're still going on first round, so next for first round is Commissioner Terry.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I was at the last PECS meeting where this was discussed, and I believe Zach, Chief Padrick, was going to provide information an SOP on how DeKalb Police would handle the enforcement of this ordinance. So is that- been completed or do they need more time? MR.

Okay. Well, I think it would be good for us to have a little you know, foresight, um, I, I, I'd hate to pass a law and then not know exactly how it's going to be enforced, um, or implemented. You know, I think, um, all of us are concerned about all of the issues related to homelessness, certainly, uh, commiserate with anyone that's been accosted or harassed. Um, you know, that does happen and it probably happens a lot. But at the same time, we know that a lot of individuals are really struggling out there. And so visits by the outreach team, visit by the crisis team, and then also business by

Thank you, Commissioner Terry. So Commissioner Longspear is your next for your second opportunity.

Thank you very much. I appreciate that Madam Presiding Officer. I do want to express to two of my colleagues Commissioner Patrick and Commissioner Davis-Johnson for recognizing the complexity of this issue and that we just need more time. All right. I was provided an analysis of the current urban camping ordinance, or at least the one prior to the substitute, which was sent to us via email yesterday. And there are several points that I wanted to elevate to the community. I am limited on time, so I will be brief and move quickly. The very first item does relate to the resolution for effective r

Thank you very much. I yield back. All right. Commissioner Messiah for your second opportunity.

Thank you so much. Again, I just reiterate, this isn't a focus on attacking the unhoused in a housing ordinance. This is more to address certain behaviors that pose a risk of public safety. I'm not certain why many times it's being reiterated. And the opportunity over the last 60 days, most of the PECS meetings that my colleague opposition has missed, there's been plenty of opportunity to make suggestions for changes and to discuss and accept the fact that this is not focusing on jailing the young house. As with any any issue related to trespassing and the like, our officers are afforded oppor

Thank you, Commissioner Messiah. Commissioner Terry, your second opportunity.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Zach, can you update us on how many members of the outreach team or how many outreach team, I guess, staff do we have currently that... Four. Covers unincorporated DeKalb County.

Okay. So I think that one of the other concerns with the implementation of the ordinance is If an officer responds to a situation, then do they have a place to send someone or can they call in the crisis team, Claritel, the outreach team? In other words, it's not treated as a crime. It's treated as we're responding to a situation that someone is concerned about. um acting erratically on the sidewalk or maybe they put up a tent on the sidewalk and we don't know what's going on officers might respond but then you know is the backup there to say actually we don't need to send someone to jail arre

Understood. And I think that's maybe that's where I think a lot of folks, including myself, have concern with the ordinance is that other jurisdictions that have implemented similar laws, my research shows that they do, in fact, incarcerate more individuals. And so we're just trying to follow the data and the evidence. When urban camping law bans are passed, more people are arrested. And that's exactly, I think, what we've all agreed that we don't want to see happen.

Thank you, Commissioner Terry. Commissioner Davis-Johnson, your second opportunity to speak.

Yeah, so I'd like to just state once more that housing problem is not just a housing problem in DeKalb County. It's a housing problem nationwide. The mental health problem is just not a problem in DeKalb County. It's nationwide. I mean, this is something that the the federal government started and the local governments are having to deal with it. So it's not fair to put that problem on one person or even this commission. But this commission must deal with it as it affect DeKalb County. And that's what we are trying to do. Take the politics out of it, take the publicity out of it, and let's dea

Thank you, Commissioner. Marita Davis-Johnson.

Madam Presiding Officer, point of procedure, please. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. It has been elevated by the sponsor that this is not a housing issue, that it's a public safety issue. So she doesn't have to respond now. I just wonder if the chair of our public safety committee would consider hearing this item in IRPS. Thank you. Yield back.

We will take that into consideration and talk about it offline. Thank you very much. So I just want to confirm, I believe the second friendly amendment was accepted for a 30-day deferral, Commissioner Long-Spears. So does that mean September 29th? I just want to make sure we're clear.

Yes, ma'am. September 29th with a stop and a committee that would be willing to hear it. Thank you. Thank you so much.

So that is the motion on the floor. Attorney Phillips.

Yes. With the second friendly amendment, 30-day deferral, September 29th through the prior stopping committee. Please open machine for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Thank you very much. So we have two more items I'd like to get to and then break for a working lunch. We have executive session to discuss legislation. Litigation. Thank you. Thank you, Attorney Phillips. So top of page 20, item 2026-1216, District 3, budget amendment to increase the general fund for recreation parks and cultural affairs, Sugar Creek Tennis and Golf to address the lighting and retention wall for the third tenn

Move for action. Motion to defer agenda items ending in 12-16 and 12-19 to the September 15 VOC meeting as it was approved in PECS. But I think that it was also at one point discussed in FAB as well. The FAB chair was there present in PECS. Are you fine with this just being in PECS, and is there more discussion that you want to have around it?

I think we were waiting on Zach and TJ to come back to the FAB committee on just sort of the budget sources or the funding sources, I should say. So I think where we're at now, PECS has recommended approval. It's now in FAB for the next step in the budget process. So we'll be happy to hear that this afternoon if the administration has any updates on their end.

All right. Thank you. So the motion is to defer until September 15th. Correct. With a prior stop and fan. Correct. Thank you. Is there a second? Thank you, Commissioner Patrick. Second. And that's for both items. Please open the machine for the vote. Thank you so much. If I can get a motion for executive session. Second. Hit your buttons. And that is for litigation. Please open the machine for the vote. We are in executive session and is a working lunch. Thank you.

Good afternoon, everybody. If I can get a motion to reconvene. So moved. We need header buttons, ma'am. All right. Thank you. Voting is open. Thank you so much. We are back. There was no action to be taken out of executive session, so we will continue. We are at the bottom of page 20, a District 6 item, but it's in PECS. Item 2025-0015, all commission districts, an ordinance to amend the Code of DeKalb County, Georgia, Chapter 16, pertaining to regulation of sound and for other purposes. Move for action. Thank you, ma'am. That moves us over to page 23. Item 2025-0017, all commission districts.

Move for action, Madam PO. I move to defer agenda item ending in 0015 and 0017 to our September 15th BOC meeting. It is still being held in committee for the sponsor to make some final decisions before we move this along and bring it to the rest of the board.

Thank you, Madam. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Long-Spears. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to defer carries. We are now page 25. Item 2025-1525, all commissioned districts, in ordinance to amend the code of DeKalb County, Georgia, Chapter 25, pertaining to water, sewers, and sewage disposal and for other purposes. This is a FAB item.

All right, thank you. Second. Thank you so much. Thank you, Madam Deputy Presiding Officer. If you'll help me remember to take it off the table, if we can open the phones. Commissioner Davis Johnson, okay. That's okay, it still carries. All right, now page 27. It's also a FAB item. Item 2026-0158, Super District 6, a resolution to establish the DeKalb for the People Dividend Fund and Fiscal Stability Policy. I think we need to table this one as well. Motion to vote.

Actually, I grabbed the motion on that. Give me a quick second. I have the recommendations for FAB, I believe.

Yeah, so it looks like it was recommended holding in committee.

So the committee recommendation for the August 25th meeting, which is today, is to defer to the September 15th BOC meeting and will be heard in FAB today.

Thank you. Can I get someone to second that, please?

All right, that is a motion to defer. Please open the machine for the vote. The motion to defer carries. Item 2026-0244, all commission districts, a resolution requiring an independent third party health environmental study of data centers and their possible impact on DeKalb County. And Board of Commissioners review of the study before DeKalb County's data center moratorium can be lifted. This is in PICS.

Yes, motion to defer to September 15 BOC meeting. It is still in committee to be heard again today. Second.

Motion and a second. Please hit your button. Thank you, ma'am. Please open the machine for the vote. I mean, we're getting real efficient with just the women, I'm just saying. I had to say it.

I had to say it. Keep hurrying. Hurry, hurry. They'll be back.

I know. Okay, sorry, sorry. Top of page 29. 2026. 0769, all commissioned districts, a resolution requesting the administration establish independent civilian oversight and auditing for DeKalb County's digital shield initiatives and surveillance infrastructure. This is an IRPS item.

Yes, ma'am. I move to defer this item to the September 29 BOC with a prior stop in IRPS. Second.

Thank you. Open machine for that vote, please. And bottom of page 29, that motion carries. Item 2026-0982, all commission districts, a resolution urging the administration implement the specific recommendations outlined in the DeKalb County Racial Equity Study as adopted in 2025.

And this is Pax. Thank you so much. I believe it was supposed to, we had discussed with Ron, the administration started implementing specific recommendations and provided those to us from the study. And at this point, I think we were comfortable with the implementation since our colleague and of the urgence is here. Is there anything else that you wanted to add to that in terms of recommendations for this item?

So we're on the racial equity study item.

Yes, I think CL Williams presented all things that are being done.

We don't have a motion, so we probably need a motion before we discuss that.

Yeah, I was going to say motion to withdraw.

All right. Now, if you would like to discuss, you're welcome.

Yes. So Mr. Williams, at the committee meeting, you laid out all of the things that are being done as it relates to the study. So thank you for doing that. It's very comprehensive. I really appreciate that. And thank you to Commissioner Larry Johnson and Commissioner Masaya for being champions for these really important issues. And I look forward to seeing the next steps of the community inclusion manager. Yeah, that's the right name for it. And when that person comes online, are y'all already, you're actively searching for that position? Yes. Okay. Very good. Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Terry. Commissioner Longspheres?

Thank you very much. Since this board is recommending withdrawal of this item, Mr. Williams, would you mind coming to the podium and just telling the public why you suggested this was our best course of action? Sure. And what, and we're very grateful, the administration is doing right now to carry this work forward.

Thank you, sir. I yield back. Thank you so much. Seeing no further requests to speak, please open the machine for the vote. Motion to withdraw carries. Middle of page 30, item 2026-0218, all commission districts to establish regulatory oversight of blasting operations in DeKalb County through the adoption of a controlled blasting and safety ordinance to promote public safety, environmental protection, and community stability and for other purposes.

On behalf of the IRPS committee, I proudly move to approve item 0218.

That's my second. And you are also the sponsor, right?

Yes, District 5 and District 7. Can you give her the honor of allowing her to have that second?

I was actually pushing my microphone, thinking I was pushing that.

My apologies. Thank you so much. Especially since I had to listen to her so much.

Thank you so much. Attorney Welch, welcome back.

So that is something that came up in committee, and it only makes a reference, but it doesn't speak to any of the sound regulations. So the reference should support the item regardless of any changes that may be made.

Okay. Let's remove it and then we can come back and amend the ordinance.

Yep. Remove the reference. We've been waiting for months on another piece of legislation. That is not under the jurisdiction of the IRPS committee. Or amend the language to say if a sound ordinance is approved. Or exists. Or exists. Blasting is currently happening.

suggested changes specifically for the reference?

I'm going to turn off my microphone for a quick second.

All right. I will go to Commissioner Terry. He's requested to speak.

Thank you, Presiding Officer. So you sent the red line just to Commissioner Bolton, or you sent it to all of us? Or you have not sent a red line, is what you're saying, but there is one?

Understood. Commissioner Bolton, does your motion stand?

Okay. I'd like to table the item, and if you could forward that, so if I can see if those changes are significant.

All right, so you're amending your motion to table. Yes, please. Your second stand. Thank you so much. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to table carries. Page 31, item 2026-1132, all commissioned districts consent to the sublease and modification of portions of the Kirkwood Mental Health Center, Clifton Springs Mental Health Center, and Wynn Way Mental Health Center under contract number 13800971 with the Community Service Board doing business as Claritel Behavioral Health. to Genoa Healthcare LLC for use as pharmacies. And this is PECS. Motion to approve as it was approved out of

Yes, and so we are being handed the substitute.

Yes, so I'm going to reread it to make sure we're all clear.

Thank you so much. So this is the substitute for item 2026-1214, a supplemental resolution approving the issuance of the housing authority of the county of DeKalb, Georgia taxable revenue bonds, housing investment bond program series 2026. in the aggregate principal amount of $25 million for the purpose of funding the housing investment bond program and authorizing the execution and delivery of an intergovernmental housing cooperation agreement between the county and the housing authority of the county of DeKalb, Georgia.

Commissioner Terry. Madam Presiding Officer, motion to approve the substitute. And then I have a question.

All right. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Long-Spears. You have the floor, Commissioner Terry.

Thank you. So, Mr. Atkins, I guess I was looking for, like, the sheet with all the other bids on it. I can provide that to you. Okay. I was just curious about what the other bids were.

Between you and director McNabb, I want y'all to translate what those words mean.

Gotcha. Okay. All right, that's all the questions I had, thank you.

Commissioner Masai, your first opportunity. Thank you so much. Just a couple of quick things, and I think this would be more, Dr. Ferguson was in attendance a little earlier, don't see him here. But I see we have as exhibit A7, the transitional housing and extended stay hotel program. They were supposed to be the same in terms of vehicles. It's supposed to be the road to home transitional housing as well. Don't see that as a part of this. So it seems like COO will maybe be able to speak to that. And then I have another question in terms of the eminent domain. Thank you, Mr. Williams.

There's the road to home program. So I see we've included the road to home as a part of exhibit A7, the transitional housing for the extended stay. So the motel to home, but the road to home is not included.

No, and I could appreciate that response. And to the extent that we plan on using any of the bond proceeds for a particular program, then that would need to be something that will be made a part of this since we're going to effectually get a bond as a result of it. Now I get that we can As long as we go through the process, allocate funds from a bond to something else that's in similarity and there's other different considerations in and around a bond. But specifically, if we're going to spend funds related to it, then it would be listed as well. And this is something that I've asked on and re

I'll reiterate. As exhibit A7 transitional housing, extended stay hotel program, so the hotel to home, I'm looking for my road to home. I was advised as we were going to do a separate agenda item related to it. that it would be a part of. We have something specifically outlining as it relates to the extended stay hotel to home. Just looking for where my road to home is.

And I can appreciate that. In RFQ, it sounds like we do need a separate agenda item. So if you wouldn't mind getting with my office, Mrs. Atwater, so that we can work together to make sure that we do what we were going to do before, which was present a separate agenda item, which is leaning into what was suggested initially. And it seems like we're going to end up going that route. Yeah, absolutely. With that, I yield back.

Thank you so much. I am seeing no further requests to speak. Please open the machine for the vote. And this is for the substitute. Motion to approve the substitute carries. Congratulations. That's very good. Okay, middle of page 32, item 2026-1224, all commissioned districts, the renewal of a contract with the Urban League of Greater Atlanta for the operation of the DeKalb County Water and Sewer Customer Assistance Programs.

The FAB committee did hear this, and the motion is to approve. Second.

Because it also went to PWI. Thank you so much.

Seeing no requests to speak, please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve carries. Bottom of page 32, item 2026-1190, application of the Director of Planning and Sustainability to request the Board of Commissioners approve a resolution for renewal of the service delivery strategy for DeKalb County, Georgia. And this is in PECS. Thank you.

And so we need to make sure that we have an opportunity to discuss this more in PEX. So I know that Shannon is out presently. John was here from someone. Yeah, make sure that it gets on so that we can be able to hear it. So then my motion is to defer to the September 15th BOC. I actually would need the September, what is that? What's after the 15th? The 29th with a stop in PEX on the 15th.

Madam PEX Chair, this is a pretty big type of conversation. Would you be amenable to a presentation at a Cal?

Are we going to work to get that scheduled before then? Thank you. All right, if you make, hit your buttons for me. And then was there a second? Thank you, Commissioner Long-Spears. Commissioner Terry.

Yeah. I seem to remember Rachel saying they wanted to get this, I guess, done in September. So I guess it probably is fine to defer it.

And I'm amenable to, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm amenable to modifying. I know there was additional information that we were looking to receive. I don't know that all of the committee, if that's been distributed to us at this point. But, I mean, if the administration, if you guys are fine, and if it's going to come before Cal, that I don't have an issue. But, you know, I'm amenable if... We need to consider something different here.

And I would add, if I may, that I think it's a broad topic that newer commissioners haven't quite delved into and that we'll be delving more into later on. So even if a vote on this specific thing is done, if we can get a presentation to just understand the process, I think would be helpful. Absolutely.

Right, and I think it's a conversation that it's better to start that early. Yes, absolutely. So I would also be amenable to approving or whatever you guys decide, but at some point having a presentation.

Yeah, I definitely want a presentation so we can get that on the Cal, then that would be fantastic. And then I'm amenable to amending my initial motion to a motion for approval. And it's still upon receipt of that additional information, and it seems like additional information will come in the form of hearing an account.

second stands second stands okay and so we're actually on commissioner terry's time okay no no worries i just um i think that only questions i had about what we were approving was more just sort of the um the different uh like codes code notions for each of the military i think we were i think tj was going to try to break out the military that's it for each of the services for the Cities that's just for more for our information purposes But I certainly support the idea matter for signing officer just talking about the SDS strategy holistically at a future day because I think your rights actors

Please resend. Thank you. EEO Commissioner Terry. Okay. Commissioner Patrick.

Just for clarity, we are voting to approve this now? Okay. And then have we talked about what caliber we're wanting to have this presentation come back to?

I appreciate that. Thank you. I'm grateful.

All right. Seeing no further requests to speak, please open the machine for the vote. And that is to approve. Motion to approve carries. Thank you. Top of page 33, this is Public Works Roads and Drainage, item 2026-1046. Accept the funding from the Georgia Department of Transportation for the FY2026 Local Maintenance and Improvement Grant Program, and this is the supplemental grant.

Based on the recommendation of PWI, motion to approve.

And Madam Presenting Officer, if we could just ask staff to come up and reconfirm that dollar amount for the grant. If there's someone here for the talk to that.

Thank you, ma'am. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve carries. We are now under purchasing and contracting for the IRPS committee. Item 2026-1008, renewal of contract number 2000349, background screening services. for use by the Department of Human Resources and Merit System to obtain pre-employment background screenings, exercising first renewal option through September 30th, 2027, awarded to HR True Check, Inc., amount not to exceed $689,375. On behalf of the IRPS Committee, I move to approve item 1008. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you for that second, Commissioner Davis-Johns

I move to defer item 1049 to the September 15 BOC with a prior stop in .

Second. Thank you. Please hit your buttons. Thank you so much. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Top of page 34. Item 2026-1050, change order number one to contract number 2000518, emergency ambulance services for use by the Department of Fire Rescue to obtain comprehensive 911 ambulance services. Seeking to revise the contract start date to July 1st, 2026 and increase contract term through December 31st, 2031 to allow vendor their full performance time period awarded to Metro Ambulance Service Inc. doing business as American Medical Response, contract term increas

Thank you. Second. Thank you. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve carries. Purchasing and contracting for the FAB committee. Item 2026-0839, RFP number 2025-048-RFP, financial advisor services. For use by the finance department to obtain financial advisory services in connection with various financing transactions and programs awarded to public resources advisory group amount not to exceed $1,167,000.

Thank you, Madam presenting officer. We are waiting some more information from the purchasing department. Um, so before I make my deferral motion, do you, will we have it today or do we need to wait till the next FAB meeting?

Oh, 29th, okay. Yes, all right, that sounds good. All right, motion to defer item 0839 to the September 29th BOC with a stop and fab in the meantime.

Second. Thank you so much. Please open machine for a vote. Motion to defer carries. Top of page 35, item 2026-1144, change order number two to contract number 2000521, upfitting of government-owned emergency response vehicles. for use by the Marshal's Office to outfit 10 new vehicles seeking increase in contract funds awarded to Dana Safety Supply, Inc., amount not to exceed $302,400.34. Thank you, Madam President and Officer.

This was heard in FAB and recommended for approval. So at this time, I move to approve Item 1144.

Second. Thank you for your second. If you'll please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve carries. Middle of page 35, purchasing and contracting for the Ops Committee. I'm getting a substitute, thank you. Item 2026-0989, change order number two to contract number 13. 43032 software and ancillary services statewide contract for use by the Department of Innovation and Technology to obtain software licenses and technical support to cover all new and existing Microsoft products utilized by the county. Seeking increase in contract funds and terms through August 31st, 2029. Excuse me, awa

Motion to approve as approved in the Ops Committee. The substitute. The substitute, yeah.

Seconded by Commissioner Patrick. I am seeing no questions. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve. The substitute carries. Item 2026-1121, change order number one to contract number 1367915, light bulbs, fixtures, lamps, and ballasts for use by the Department of Facilities Management to obtain light bulbs, fixtures, lamps, and ballasts for upgrades under Health Center's project. Seeking increase in contract funds awarded to Summit Lighting Solutions amount not to exceed $1,111,100.

Thank you. Top of page 36. Item 2026-1125, change order number 15, a contract number 1147259, elevator, escalator, and walkway maintenance and modernization services and related solutions for use by the Department of Facilities Management to obtain monthly preventative maintenance, inspections, testing, and modernization of the county's elevators and associated equipment at Richardson Health Center and West DeKalb Mental Health Center Seeking increase in contract funds awarded to Cone Inc. Amount not to exceed $1,248,462.64. Move for action.

I make a motion to approve 26-1121, 26-1125 as they were approved in the Ops Committee.

Thank you. If you'll hit your button. And is there a second? Thank you, sir. Commissioner Terry, you have the floor.

Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. Zach, on the 1121, the lighting contract, did they complete the cost savings analysis, or can they?

Yeah, that's right. I think, yeah, we talked about it in the committee, but y'all are going to do just a... The anticipated cost savings per facility? The payback time, because it's a million dollars, so how long will it take for us to get that money back and the savings we'll make?

Thank you, Commissioner Derry. Commissioner Davis-Johnson.

And it would just be good if you just gave an overall assessment of the savings.

Yeah, and when you get that, if you could get with me, and we could just have a discussion in ops. Absolutely.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Please open the machine for the vote. That motion to approve carries. We are now purchasing and contracting for the PECS Committee. Item 2026-0802, change order number one to contract number 1347014, Geographical Information Systems Enterprise License Agreement, sole source. for use by the Department of GIS to obtain the use of proprietary software that allows the county the capability to create publicly accessible GIS apps, dashboards, maps to deploy software and is fully integrated into other departmental workflows and business systems, excuse me, Seek

Move for action. Madam PO, I move to approve agenda items ending in 0802 and 0844. They're both over $3 million, but they have gone through audit. Second.

Is the second standing is flashing on our screen. Thank you. She was sure, but her button's not sure.

Okay, it's a little disco ball or something.

Well, let's just open the machine for the vote. It's not, it's frozen.

There we go. Disco ball has stopped. Thank you, sir.

Motion to approve carries. Thank you. So now we're purchasing and contracting for the PWI committee, top of page 38. And we were just handed a substitute for item 2026-0197, change order number two to contract number 1280028, SCADA controls and instrumentation for use by the Department of Watershed Management to obtain SCADA software systems management services at water and wastewater treatment plants within the county seeking increase in contract funds and term through July 31st, 2027, awarded to Tesco Controls Inc. amount not to exceed $3,280,000. Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer.

Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thank you. That is a good savings. I will note that the original item had it at $5 million and then the substitute at $3.28 million.

That's why it's the greatest show on earth.

And the savings show on earth as well, you know.

Please open the machine for the vote. Thank you. Motion to approve the substitute carries. Item 2026-0774, Change Order Number 3 to Contract Number 2000105, Technology, Product Solutions, and Related Services. are used by Fire Rescue to obtain dash cam equipment through the competitively let County Omnia contract for the purchase of dash cam equipment related accessories, licensing, and installation for emergency vehicles, seeking to add the Department of Watershed Management to the contract and increase the contract funds to purchase dash cam equipment. Related accessories, installation, and

All right, if you'll hit your button. Is there a second? Thank you, Commissioner Terry. It's your request to speak, Commissioner Patrick.

Thank you very much, Madam Presiding Officer. I just want to let everybody know or call attention to this large item that we just approved or potentially will be approving. For $233 million, this is a significant investment, as it says, demolition and installation of new clear wells. This is to ensure that water continues to flow within DeKalb County. And this is starting off at the top where the water starts. With the expectation, obviously, it makes it all the way to the bottom of the county. These investments are large, but they are also reflective of the 10 by 10 that this board voted on l

Thank you Mr. PWI Chair. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve those items carries. Top of page 40. Item 2026-0949, Commission District 3, Super District 7, RFQ 2025-039-RFQ, Design Services for Michelle Obama Trail Extension from South River Trail to Flakes Mill Road for use by Public Works Transportation to obtain design services for North Fork Peachtree Creek Trail at Waldrop Road to Flakes Mill Road near Narvee Harris Elementary School, recommend award to the highest scoring proposer, Kimley Horne & Associates, Inc., amount not to exceed 4.1 million.

Yes, Madam Presiding Officer. Motion to defer to the September 15 BOC with a prior stop at PWI. This is currently under review by Mr. Campbell's office for audit, and we just want to make sure we get it right.

Thank you, sir. Hit your button one more time. Thank you, Commissioner Terry, for the second. Commissioner Masai, you have the floor.

Thank you so much, Madam Pio. I just have a quick question, because my understanding is there was already $3 million that actually got appropriated. And this was also to Wall Drop, Bro 155, and it was federal money that had been received. So can someone speak to that $3 million, and Thank you so much, Kingsbury, coming for it.

While we're waiting, Mr. Kingsbury, we are getting close to when committees were supposed to start, so we will revisit that. We still have a few more items to get through. Thank you.

SPLOST $2.00. So we'll make sure that typo is corrected. And right now the motion is to defer, correct? All right. Any other questions, Commissioner Messiah?

Just so I can understand, it's a match of $3 million? Because I know that $3 million, and so it seems like it's a match, and then adding another $1.1 million, or just trying to understand there.

Thank you, Commissioner Messiah. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to defer carries. Item 2026-1041, change order number five to contract number 1258-006, stormwater master plan, for use by Public Works, Rose, and Drainage to provide stormwater master planning services, seeking increase in contract funds, scope of services, and term through June 30th, 2028, awarded to Arcadis US, Inc., amount not to exceed $2,229,900.

Thank you. Seconded by Commissioner Terry.

Got it. Please open the machine for the vote. Motion to approve carries. Under Recreation, Parks, and Cultural Affairs, item 2026-0974, District 3, Super District 6, to fund the operation of the Center for Hard to Recycle Materials, or CHARM, a recycling program with Live Thrive, Inc., Located at 1225 Columbia Drive, Decatur, Georgia, 30032. Parcel ID 15-200-02-001. Move for action. Thank you, ma'am. Item 2026-1175. Districts 1, 3, 5, Super Districts 6 and 7, a resolution to commit to the implementation of park improvement projects for the purpose of and to authorize submission of applications

Move for action. I move to approve agenda items ending in 0974, 1175, and 1179 as they were approved out of Peck's committee.

Thank you so much. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Patrick. Commissioner Terry, you've requested to speak. You're the floor.

yes thank you madam presenting officer um zach just a quick question so we did talk about the funding source for the operation of charm being the parks department but i think you had indicated that in the future it would be under sanitation is that still the intent for the the next funding round that is sorry okay um and so i know parks um is parks leasing it to charm or did is it it's a lease right is that what's uh we own the property you know releasing it we own it and then releasing a charm okay i believe so okay so just

So, and I, sorry, we don't have to spend too much time on it. I just wanted to flag that the other, I think the other four acres is still sort of up for, I guess, debate on what will happen with it. Yeah. And I know it will point me soccer fields, but since build the deer Plaza has been kind of invested in through the tax allocation district. Um, this might be a good time to engage, you know, with all the commissioners in this area and the neighbors, because I think at one point it was supposed to be like a charm, like a farm and charm thing. But if we're going to like do a different direction, we should have kind of either like update the neighbors or at least just, you know, do a reset on that. Okay. Thanks.

And if we could update that agenda item, Beverly deer Plaza is in super district seven.

Thank you, ma'am. All right. So if we can now open the machine for that vote. Commissioner Terry. Motion to approve carries. Thank you. We're now at the top of page 42. Under solicitor for the state court, item 2026-1211, all commission districts will be impacted. The solicitor general's office requests to assume the lease for the vacant office space at 160 Claremont from the district attorney's office as of September 1st, 2026. The cost will be approximately $106,000 for the remainder of 2026.

Second. Second on that motion to approve. No request to speak. Please open the machine for a vote. Motion to approve carries. Item under Watershed Management, item 2026-1180, District 2, Super District 6, agreement for the construction and financing of sewer upgrades with PPF Amelie at 750 Commerce Drive, LLC, with a contribution of $168,500. Motion to approve. Thank you. Is there a second? Thank you so much. And please open the machine for the vote. We have two items to take off the table. One is on page 25 and one is on page 30. We'll start on page 25. If I can get a motion.

Sorry. We're so close. Item 1525. You hadn't pulled your FAB notes yet. Commissioner Terry hadn't drawn this yet. Hit the buttons again. Please hit the buttons for that motion to reconsider that item.

Now if we can vote. Thank you. There we go. All right. Motion to reconsider or to take the item off the table. So that is item 2025-1525, all commission districts, an ordinance to amend the code of DeKalb County, Georgia, Chapter 25, pertaining to water, sewers, and sewage disposal and for other purposes. And this was a FAB item.

Yes, thank you. Sorry for missing this earlier in the meeting. Yes, we are discussing this with COO Williams and the Urban League to figure out a good kind of different pilot programs, Zach, for the water debt repayment program. So we will continue those discussions in FAB. Let's defer this to September 29 BOC meeting just to give us a little bit extra time over the next couple of FAB meetings.

Second. Motion and a second to defer to September 29 with the prior stop in FAB. Please open the machine for the vote. That motion carries. Now we're going to page 30, and that was for item 2026-0218. So if I can get a motion.

The item is 0218 on the bottom of page 30. Hit your button again, ma'am, your motions. And your second, please. Please open machine for that vote, and then I'll read it out again. All right. This is item 2026-0218. All commission districts establish regulatory oversight of blasting operations in DeKalb County through the adoption of a controlled blasting and safety ordinance to promote public safety, environmental protection, and community stability and for other purposes.

Okay. And I appreciate you sharing that email with the red line version and for my colleagues for tabling until the end of the meeting. Okay. I'm going to go ahead and make my motion and then do my comments. My motion is still to approve because, I'm sorry, we need a second. I do need a second.

Thank you, Commissioner Davis-Johnson. Commissioner Bolton has requested to speak. You have the floor, ma'am.

The red line version, all of those suggestions were accepted by the board. That's what we're voting to approve. Okay. what's in the red line that you sent to us today. And just about all of those come from fire, and we've had conversations with fire before we sent it to legal and thereafter, so we were aware of those suggested changes.

All right, Attorney Phillips, did you need to address anything?

You want to concede your first opportunity to speak and let Commissioner Messiah speak? Yes. Okay. Commissioner Messiah.

This is what we'll do and what I can commit to doing is that we... ensure that we make a definitive decision out of PECS. And so I'm saying this along with my PECS committee members and looking for their solidarity in doing this because I hate the idea that it's holding up the potential for your agenda item to be able to move forward. We have been in earnest a bit of a standstill in terms of the sponsor and it was split in terms of in the decision how we were going to move forward. And I know that the law department is prepared with language either way for either route that we specifically go.

Thank you. It's connected to a PECS item. Yes.

The sound ordinance we've been voting on is holding it up. And the specific language that's going to go into and help drive this particular agenda item is predicated on, or her item is predicated on that specific language and what recommendation that we utilize. whether we're going to, you know, just that direction where we've been trying to decipher which mechanism is going to be used and the, you know, conditional approval out of PECS for that language. And so that's been essentially the holdup where law has been wanting that and needing that in order to give a final recommendation for her l

I apologize. What is the motion on the table right now?

Currently, it's to approve. To approve. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Davis-Johnson.

Well, I would just like to say, and we've said in executive session, welcome back, Matthew. And I would not say that this item is contingent on the passage of what they do and what they do on the Norse ordinance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would not say it's contingent. And we have spoken on this item. We've been through these discussions for several, several months. But I would just say this, in deference to Matthew, who's just coming back, to give him an opportunity to review his red lines and speak directly with you. I would just make a, I don't want to do a substitute, but an amended m

And that next meeting would be September 15th. Do you yield, Commissioner Davis-Johnson? Are you accepting the friendly amendment, Commissioner Bolton? Okay. Commissioner Terry, you requested to speak.

Thank you Madam Presiding Officer. I think one question I think that is related to the two different ordinances is the question of plainly audible versus decibels. So I assume that's part of your review is that we're not saying one in this one and another sort of definition. That's what we're discussing with the noise ordinances, plainly audible versus decibel. Presumably in this one, we want it to align with the right enforcement mechanism.

Okay, so you accepted the friendly amendment, so now the motion is to defer until September 15th? Yes. And your second stands, Commissioner Davis-Johnson. If we can reflect that. And open machine for the vote. Motion to defer carries. And that was our last item before we jump up. I need to talk about committee times. What times are committees?

2.30 for FAB. All right. And 3.30 for PECS. All right. Thank you so much. If I can get a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second. Hit your buttons. Thank you, everybody. THAT'S GOING TO DRAG IT OUT.