City Council - Regular Meeting

Thank you, Mr. Young. I have your card. And I think to some of the questions you asked, we will have our staff get back in touch with you on the policies.

And would it be possible for the council to be appraised? I'd like to be appraised on what happens with this issue.

Is there anyone else in chambers who wishes to make public comment at this time? Yes, sir.

Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else in chambers who would like to make public comment? Welcome.

But you put on the show. Is that correct?

Thank you for that point of clarification. Is there anyone else in chambers? Mayor Clark, do we have someone on the phone or online?

Yes. Okay, I'm going to move forward then with that on item for presentations. 4.1 business toolkit presented by economic development. Is that you, Jennifer? That is me.

All right. Council members, any other comments? Questions? Okay. Thank you, Jennifer.

The downstairs counter, are they going to have a copy of this so they're familiar with it when people come in and start? reciting something out of this and the counter goes.

Thank you. Great job. Quick question. I guess, trying to understand on particular on food trucks, where Do you and your department and Mario's department sort of either come together or merge? Because obviously for a food truck, they go through the condition to use permit process, but then through they may need some help with capital or they may need some help with business plans that Mario's department I don't think handles. So what point kind of like. Do you guys hand off or merge?

Right, because I think one of the things I've been hearing out, at least in my part of the city, is they're trying to organize some kind of association to kind of have some representation on things that I think mostly on enforcement and compliance, because I know that I would venture to say that maybe half the trucks aren't in compliance with the necessary permits. So I know that they've been talking about trying to form an association or have some kind of advocacy channel to whomever, your department or Mario's department.

City Council Chambers, Moving forward on our agenda item five communications any communications received. All right. Item six, council reports and items of interest. Vice Mayor Harrell.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On the sixth, I represented the mayor at the reopening of grandma's house. It's been about a year since Laura passed away. They've had to get some things in order, which now has been completed and it's opened and it's now being supervised and run by Monica Lindsay, who comes to us by way of, I believe it was Baltimore. A lot of interest, a lot of excitement. Uh, it was a great opening again, so I look forward to continuing on with that. And then on the 12th, it's in the downtown association.

Yes, I just wanted to say that on August the 6th as well. I attended the 1st. Tulare Avanza Tulare Marketplace event. It was great. There was about 2600 people that showed up with 70 plus vendors food and a number of things that Were provided, they had like music, 300 backpacks were given away to kids and it's a great event. Then the following Thursday, they had a little bit less about 2000 people that showed up to the event. And so this Thursday again is another. Thursday night market where there's a lot of food and vendors and there's a farmer's market. There's a lot of different things that

John Potter, Pictures all over social media look good good turnout so he said pictures all over social media good. John Potter, yeah good stuff.

John Potter, Council members on August 11 I attended the monthly mid Korea GSA meeting. John Potter, That was August 11 August 12 the ribbon cutting for ag West farm credit with our mayor, we did a great job, thank you. John Potter, Other than that. That's it for the second time. Let's keep moving. I got a note handed to me. Did I say something wrong?

I was sure it was a public comment. No, I have notes handing. I just want to make sure. I thought maybe somebody wanted to speak. Yeah, I think to piggyback with that, it was great to be at the Ag West ribbon cutting. I don't remember how many years they said until there, but what, 103 years altogether? What was the years that they've been in business?

They used to be downtown Tulare. Yeah. And then they were farm credit. I mean, they were a federal land bank production credit at one point. Then they merged that into farm credit West and moved out to the site that was built just before the overpasses were built.

And then there was mergers and now they're ag West farm credit. The amazing thing. in reality, was the architecture of the building that existed and the way they encompassed the expansion so that it looks like it was all built at the same time, virtually, and having the exposure of that facility right on Freeway 99 is a real credit to AgWest Farm Credit and a real real exciting for the city of Tulare.

Yeah, it was great to learn about their history when I was there, a deeper history that As well for Council, I attended the TCAC meeting on Monday, and last week I did attend the Cal City South Valley collaboration event. Thomas and other staff, Jason, were there as well. A key topic that came up there in their presentation was just, you know, they were sharing information coming out of Sacramento on the vehicle Miles traveled. I'm Ted Smalley at TCAD. Give us an update on STIP, State Transportation Improvement Fundings, and the FTIP. So really what it comes down to is collaboration and money,

Hal Hallstein, With 7.5 was not part of that Thomas.

Before we dispense, I had one question, though, on 7.4. I don't know if it's part of why they got pulled or just a question, if I may, Mr. Mayor. But on the side letter agreements on this particular topic that are part of 7.4, I noticed that in the close seal one, there was a clause missing that the rest of them had. So the rest of them is under F. They're labeled A through D, half or whatever. And the CLOSIA is like one through five, one through six. So it's labeled a little different, but it was regarding the minimum, nothing in this policy shall reduce the leave. So all the other ones had i

Yeah. So I just wanted to note that because that's the reason why I have pulled it is just that the CLOSIA contract. I didn't have this clause and the, all the other ones did so just thank you before staff come back.

Okay, does counsel have any other items to pull or a recommended action on just real quick?

So, so the other 1, that's recommended for postponing is 7.14 as well. Um, so just again, just wanted, I had also requested, I was going to request for that to be pulled, but maybe in the looking at it once again, I had two sort of questions, um, on this. The first one is, is there a threshold in our purchasing policy for, uh, something like this going out to RFP? So is there a threshold that has to be under, under it? And then the last one is, well, they're in the scope of work that the company is doing. Will there be a specific area for an over cross or will there be options presented to cou

Can you pull 7.3? So what we have remaining so far, 7.1, 7.2, 7.5, 7.6, 7.9, 7.10, 7.11, 7.12, 7.15, and 7.16. I'll move the consent calendar as described by . Second.

We have a motion and a second. Just for clarification, there was a couple of items that indicated that I had a potential. John Potter, Conflict of interest and. John Potter, I came to the there isn't a significant nexus that brought me to the point to where I felt like I did so, I am going to vote yes on adoption of these conflict these consent items.

John Potter, Okay, so we have a motion and a second all in favor. John Potter, Oppose that's approved 7.3 Mr madaris.

I just want, there's a couple of things I wanted to, I think Mr. Segal has indicated that he likes to have this presented whenever it comes in front of us. And I also wanted to have an update as it relates to status of active projects, the International Agri-Center Way Extension. We had a, Michael, I think we had a timeline. And these days in light of COVID, John Potter, Should have brought this up, I guess, in items of interest my inactivity during the period of time to file to run for office that kind of made clear that some of these items. I'd like to see completed within the next few month

Can we work on some of these items to put it out to bid contemporaneous with waiting for approvals on some of the other items so that. We we have no delay whatsoever.

Very good. Other than that, I had no questions as it related to the report, Jennifer, unless you wanted to add something.

Okay. Do we have a motion to receive the report? Anybody else have any questions? If not, I'll make the motion. We have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion's approved to receive the economic development updates. Thank you, Jennifer. 7.13, Councilman Segala.

Well, just had a couple of questions for Alex. This particular item has to do with an agreement with Saltlight to provide some services for the homeless. I was reading through the new staff report and I just had a couple of sort of questionnaire to verify something I'm trying to understand. So in the staff report, It's noted that the grant is being provided to assist with dealing with some case work or some case work regarding homeless folks that will not be. In the shelter that are not going to necessarily be in the shelter. It states that that the funding is going to be for this within the c

Right, because I think that kind of just Kind of what jumped out at me was, I know that we have a Tulare first policy with the shelter, right? That there is criteria that you have to be from Tulare. I mean, there is, I think, a percentage, I think, a quarter from other county areas as part of a deal with the county. So someone from Porterville or Wood Lake or Goshen or whatever technically could be housed at the center so I was just curious to see that that kind of that kind of jumped out at me because obviously this is a grant we got for the city for residents but so you're telling me that th

And so one of the one of the reasons a person can be ineligible is that they don't meet the criteria that they're from Tulare.

And then along those lines, um, So, for the case management, I think you set up the grants of the thirty right individuals that can be monitored throughout whatever timeframe. Where where are those folks eligible to be housed. Anywhere outside the city as well, so there's a spot. Let's say at Salt Lake's facility, they can recommend them to their own facility, or they can rent them to what is the eating house? I think is that what it's called? Yeah. So, so technically they can go if there's no room for them in Tulare, they can be housed in Porterville, Lindsay, wherever. And that includes the,

Right. And I think that I definitely agree that that should be the end point, that that should be the final purpose of the whatever funding we have through this grant. So I'm just curious to see where would folks be housed? Because if you're ineligible to be at the shelter or you don't follow the very minimal rules that there are there and you you end up out in the street again, then what happens, right? So this attempt to take care of that, and I was just curious to see, you know, how far the reach would be in terms of, you know, like I said, the language with, you know, within the surroundin

These are grant funds, the PLHA funds that are provided by the state of California. To a certain degree, we're passed through, is that correct, to Salt and Light? These are not general fund? Correct. Not general. What do we have? Because the state's given us the money to administer it, and we're choosing through this agreement to administer it through Salt and Light. I didn't read the agreement. word for word, but just so that it's clear, do we have in this agreement assurances that Salt and Light uses it for people experiencing homelessness in Tulare and they don't take that money that has be

And I ask this question because I want to make it clear to the people. I thought it was important that we as a council and you making the presentation, that it be clear, that point be clear to the public at large, that this money's not coming in from the state and then we're sitting there and turning it over to another agency and they're free to spend it however they want, which doesn't help the city of Tulare exclusively under the terms of this grant. That is clear in the agreement itself that they have parameters under which they're going to administer the funds that we're passing through to And this has gone on for more than just this year. We have done that with them for how many years?

Mayor, before I do the motion for this item, just real quick, maybe in the next, in the weekly report, I know we sponsored a bill in Sacramento regarding homeless housing. So I don't know if we maybe get an update or that bill's passed or stuck in committee or got killed or whatever. So maybe an update on that. But without any other questions, I'll move to adopt item 7.13 on our consent calendar.

Okay, we have a motion and second for approval of 7.13. All in favor? Aye. Motion approved. Thank you. Moving forward to item eight, public hearing. Comments related to public hearing items are limited to three minutes per speaker for a maximum of 30 minutes per item, unless otherwise extended by council. Again, for those that wish to provide public comment while attending the meeting remotely, you can press nine on your phone to raise your hand or click raise hand in the webinar. We have 8.1, a resolution of necessity for APN 172-370-032. Mr. Thomas.

Okay, I think counsel with that is, I look to legal counsel that we actually open the public hearing and then continue the public hearing.

Okay, I'll make a motion to continue this to the September 1st, 2026 council meeting.

Okay, we have a motion a second to continue this to the September City Council meeting all in favor. Hi, any opposed. Okay, moving forward on our agenda.

Well, just a quick question. Is this delay anything on that project?

Okay. Item 9, general business, 9.1, investment performance review by PFM Asset Management.

I generally don't. I do for public hearing, not for general business. I can. What Councilmember Medeiros is referring to is that for comments from the public related to general business, As well, you can, if you wish to provide public comment, you can press nine on your phone or to raise your hand or click raise hand in the webinar. For items under general business, we will call upon for public comment. Is that helpful? No, I don't. However, I take the point, which is to all the public, There are times in general business. I have not went to public comment. And so I should. So it helps me to s

Can you clarify, just so I know what our portfolio is doing compared to benchmark? Benchmark is expectation of performance. Is that going in? Is that what we're looking at? Thank you.

um appropriately sets the tone for the portfolio and it's within the parameters of what's permissible on our interest circumstances correct it wouldn't be appropriate for example to choose a one to ten year when um uh that's a a different part of the yield curve that creates very different results or take a flyer on a corporate stock of some sort you can't do that anyway i'm sorry or take a flyer on a on some stock ibm or apple or whatever you mean correct or low uh high hold John Pimentel, bond right right um during this one year we had 5.2 million that's what's indicated. John Pimentel, In t

Okay, so basically, was a quarter of this figure. So we've got four times as much as

And most of this is in the enterprise fund that Tricia manages. Is that correct, Tricia?

Council members, any questions on monetary policy, economic growth, inflation rate, consumer spending? John Potter, The other fantastic areas we just through what where's your grandmother from.

John Potter, he's a Lindsay boy down there, I think. John Potter, Right go car. John Potter, Avenue to to a. John Potter, There you go there you go.

Thank you. So perhaps just in recap, and I think for everybody here, I'm understanding this right, is this is a, it was mentioned this is primary enterprise funds. Mark, is this 100% enterprise funds? Is it 97% enterprise funds? What's the mix here?

So quickly, what would you say the other 50% there? What are some of the major? I don't need all of the major other.

Yeah, I just was going to ask 1 more, but if with the, what you had said, the general fund, so we receive a report that our general fund reserve balance is like 20Million. So, with that general fund reserve balance be captured in this.

So we have a report here that's collectively the enterprise fund and the general fund. investments that we're talking about here. Correct. Are these separated so that we know what the performance has been for the enterprise portion, and in particular, which ones are earning what, and how do we allocate that for the enterprise side, even though it's, let's say you indicated 50-50, can the enterprise fund perform at one level and the general fund perform at another? and they're separated in that regard? Is that how you're accounting that?

So, it's kind of like, uh. To simplify kind of like, uh, this is a community property type of situation where the enterprise, which is 1 spouse. And the general funds another spouse, and we earn collectively together. how we deal with this, no matter what the rate is in the individual savings accounts.

No, just thank you for your report. And I think the questions and with that is I know and I don't mean to embarrass any individuals. I just want to kind of put this message is we do have two individuals in our audience at least that have will be coming up in election for city council as across our community. And I hope that this shows and is good information for those interested in being in City Council, that basically our savings account amongst those funds is $156 million. The interest rate for which you talked about at 854 interest in the quarter, but the gain and the whole interest, but wi

Can I take a step back? Sorry, Mr. Manager, I need to mind. I started where I said I did not allow public opinion and public comment. I'm always getting public opinion. For 9.1, I do want to ask if anyone in chambers would like to have public comment on the investment performance review by PFM Asset Management.

Go ahead, Council Member Durst. My question is, basically what you're doing is you're watching the market and determining, in your opinion, when the best time is to strike. Is that correct?

Sorry. The 2015 and 2016 are the two that you're concentrating on because those can be prepaid at this time. And once you refinance or recommend and it's approved to refinance at favorable rates, when you refinance, those bonds are for a period of time, not, not be in a position to where they can be prepaid. Is that correct?

So fundamentally, if you decide, which you apparently have or were arriving at that time, to make this move at a lower rate, you'll save the amount of money that... that you're projecting, but if rates continue to come down, even more could have been saved. That's kind of the projection that has to be made by experts such as yourself. Is that correct?

But there are a lot of factors or when you when you take everything in conjunction with what's going on in the the economy, the appearance is that there's right now a lot of inflationary aspects of what's going on that could very well cause this to be a problem if it continues to head in the other direction. So I can see where your recommendation may very well be we better strike now or tee it up, as you say, as opposed to waiting to see what's going to happen six months from now or a year from now or whatever the case may be. Is that fair?

Just do the best you can and move on. Okay. Thank you. Go ahead.

No, I was just doing a recap, which is my understanding, like I said, 2015, 2016, $103 million in sewer bonds, $10 million annual debt service. You had mentioned the MPV savings at around 5%. So that would save us roughly $13.5 million towards the total bill, or roughly $680,000 a year, if my quick summary has that right.

Dave Kuntz, And I think also if I could I think. Dave Kuntz, When we're. Dave Kuntz, Doing these studies. for rate studies as it relates to our enterprise fund, that's, if I'm not mistaken, that's more in line with decisions that the Board of Public Utilities will make. And we'll basically get reports on that. Is that correct?

Okay. With that, I'd like to open this up for public comment. Is there anyone in chambers who would like to comment on 9.2 authorization to proceed with refinancing process for sewer revenue bonds? Okay. Clark, do we have anyone on the phone? All right. Anything else? Okay. Thank you, Mr. Meyer and Mr. Scriven. We appreciate the presentation. Yes.

If no one has... Did we do? We did public comment exactly. I'd make a motion that we authorize city staff and the city's municipal advisor to proceed with the next steps necessary for evaluating and executing a refinance financing known as refunding or teeing up, as was referred to several times, of the city's 2015 and 2016 sewer revenue refunding bonds.

Council, we have a motion and a second to authorize the city staff and the city's municipal advisor to proceed with the next steps necessary for evaluating and executing your refinancing of the sewer revenue funding bonds. All in favor? Any opposed? Motion approved, 4-0. Okay, moving forward on our agenda, 9.3, progress report on housing element, housing plan implementation. Mr. Anaya.

Yeah. I had a, I had a question along those lines. So what, what would be the driving force for, I, I know that in previous, uh, reports you, you shared with us that I think we've only had like 40 built over five year period or something like that. They were like, averaging 8 or a year or something like that for.

So what would be the, what would be the driving factor? Is it more to make income generate income for whoever puts it together or to provide. Sort of more housing, because I guess the question is, is there any limitations on on that those pre plans? I mean, I saw one that was like 1200 square feet. That's a pretty sizable. Is there anything that prohibits them from turning those into Airbnb type of situations? Because that would generate income for someone that need that may need it versus someone that's trying to house. people that need a place to live.

But is there anything that prohibits us as a city or as a council to kind of prioritize one over the other through incentives for example when you put out those hey here's some free plans on that have been approved on what how you know what you can build those are made available to everyone but if they were just made available to folks that may be committed to providing more of a housing type of scenario versus a for-profit scenario are there are those things that prohibit a city from doing that

John Potter, that's beyond the city limits, though correct I mean that that's actually counting but that's in the tagus area that's that's. John Potter, County is that correct was that coordinated with the county.

Similar to what was done with Eden House. I think we had some beds in Eden House. Correct.

So I had a question on this one. I know we have sold surplus property in the past, in the years that I've been here. When we do have that property available, we make it available to nonprofits, right? I mean, developers or nonprofit developers first to see if it's something they would be interested in acquiring. But I'm recalling the property on K Street that I think Knight, was it Knight? I'm thinking Knight, right? Or that's a show, but. All right. Okay. The property that's over by the night transportation right on K street. I'm not sure where that property is. I know that that we had put it

I've heard you bring this up before and I'm always confused. Why would you do that?

Well, because the idea is you would build housing. I mean, one of the goals from the surplus land process is to try to encourage housing. Try to encourage, and you make first dibs to a self-help or other types of groups that are into that business. But if the land's not usable, would it be, instead of getting X company, To pay a 1M dollars for a piece of land, they just instead of paying a 1M dollars, they just find a land that's equivalent in not necessarily size, but in cost where it would be easier for a developer to build where the infrastructure is already built and so forth. So, is that

For example, you're talking about the Blackstone property.

John Potter, You got that up which yeah I think that was the one on Jackson by the freeway yeah well it's actually black stone that would turn into J street it's what that is K street i'm sorry. John Potter, night transportation is close by that might be a piece of property that they would be interested in, but. So what you're saying is let's make them go buy another piece of property, and then we'll require them to swap those two pieces of property. But from a commercial standpoint, somebody like transportation, They will run risks if they go buy another piece of property as to what the circu

You know, I mean, you're you're you're a lot more your attorney. You have that background. I mean, for me, it's just the idea that, you know, I'm going to be in December. Being here for 10 years on this council, and I don't just quite honestly don't see any head away. We're making our arena. I mean, I'm just trying to think outside the box and what can we do to try to reach those arena numbers that just keep getting bigger and bigger and harder and harder. So, I mean, if an attorney is going to come in and say, hey, this is you can't do this, this is the wrong thing. Well, let's figure out som

I'm not saying you can't do it. What I'm saying is a swap doesn't accomplish what you're trying to accomplish. There's other ways that can be done that. But I think staff could explain.

I want to move forward. Alexis, do you have a program 13?

Go back to the last one. Is that where you're at now? Yes, right here. Can some of these funds be used to, when people buy their first home, used to buy down interest rates to assist them to get loans at a lower interest rate? Therefore, when they get a loan, their monthly payment's going to be less. It'd be a long-term benefit that might make the difference between them buying the home and not buying the home.

Yes, sometimes a person's in a situation to where, say, interest rates are today at 6.5%, but if somebody pays that interest rate down or pays extra money, $5,000, $10,000, whatever it may be, they could take that down to $5.75 and someone who's not otherwise capable of making a payment at a higher rate may be capable at that point in a first-time homebuyer would be able to get in. So that's a program that could be used to assist people to buy that first home. Understood. And can these funds be used for that purpose?

Okay, thank you, staff. I think with that, that way I don't miss this opportunities is to open this up to public comment. Is there anyone in chambers who'd like to comment on the progress report on housing element housing plan implementation? Good evening. Welcome. Yes, you may approach the microphone.

If I may, real quick, and I apologize, I didn't capture your name when you came to the microphone.

That's okay. Julia. So, Julia, thank you for your comments. Thank you for the coming up and providing comments to this. But yes, I just want to endorse, if you would give your cards to the clerk, and the clerk will share that information with council and staff, and we'll keep you engaged with the conversation.

And for clarification, and I don't mean to be, we have a city clerk. We don't have a secretary. So I just want to make that point.

Is anyone else in chambers wish to make comment? Madam Clerk, do we have anyone on the phone? Okay. Council members, briefly, I mean, that was a huge topic, but any other quick questions that we have?

I had one on, on, I guess, slide number four, or I guess before, um, already talked about, uh, just different strategies on, um, let me see, just so you guys get back to number four. Right there in terms of, like, displacement protections. I know we talked about that. Was it the fair housing or something we did last time? That was part of the housing element. Our strategy, such as trying to protect. From rental increases that are beyond. Rational in terms of like, if you know, a law allows you to raise your rent by 5%, and you're raising it 15%. Are there any those types of protections that th

Yeah, I mean, I appreciate what you're talking about. I was just talking more specifically about rentals, increased safeguards, right? I mean, like what could happen? I mean, I'm familiar where you're... I'm familiar with what you're talking about, otherwise known as Frogtown over in L.A., but those are a lot of single-family homes that are sometimes rented. So the idea is to try to keep people in their homes, and unreasonable rental increases is something that hopefully we might be able to explore down the road. But that was just one question on that particular topic.

i was just going to add for information of with recent federal policy that have been passed with state there have been rent control measures for example any of in the city of Tulare of projects that were built with low-income housing tax credit under LIHTC i can't have any sugar but thank you it's all good And I think staff is confirming that light tech, which is like Santa Fe Commons, and there are older projects in Tulare that you cannot raise the rent more than nine percent annual. So state law with under funding projects, certain provisions. The state law did pass other rent protections. A

One last quick question I had just as anticipated actions and input if i'm right on one of the slides you had which was anticipated actions was a developer came in and have. Potentially 20% of set asides they that developer could get a buy right didn't and i'm going to say is that multi families that single family was a both.

So when you say it is, so anticipated actions, is that the state policy, or is that anticipated actions that the state is doing, or is that alternatives for us to consider?

John Potter, Okay, I I didn't know that that had been implemented so so far projects, if you come in and you're going to build somewhere. John Potter, If you have 20% I don't mean to expand on this Council just so I think so, we understand this could very well be in front of us i'm going to build a hundred unit apartment complex. John Potter, And I think for the public, but if I do 20%, which is just 20 units. I can take that whole project and get a buy, right? Correct. And the reason it's, it's kind of a, if it's already policy is. I don't necessarily know by right for 20%, um, 20 units out o

Thank you. It's just this is going to be in front of us in the future. And just so when that happens, the public is aware of that process. So we're touching on it now. It's not going to be brand new when it happens. Sorry, I counsel any other comments or questions or we'll move forward. Do you Do need a, this is just receive a presentation and and chatter and input. So you don't need a formal action. That's okay. All right. Thank you. Staff and we'll move forward on our agenda item 9.4 designation of voting delegate and alternate for annual Cal cities conference. Melissa, you need us to design

You're going, Dennis. I'm going. I never indicated that I was going. I didn't indicate I wasn't going, but I never indicated that I, I am too late now. Um, here we go. Can I, can you count cancel? Usually, you know, I find these.

Okay. Yeah, not, I mean, I find them very helpful. And you learn a lot. But after eight years, I don't know that I would benefit to the point to where it would be worthwhile to the city for me to go. So I'm not planning on going. So I'd make a motion that Mr. Segal will be our voting member. And did you make the motion already?

Okay. Yeah, make the motion. Okay. I'll make the motion that Mr. Sagala be our voting member, and if she attends, the alternate would be necessary.

Second. We have a motion and a second for Councilman Sagala to be the designated voting delegate, and Councilmember Serra's the alternate. All in favor? Aye.

Now, I guess I have a question. Do we need to take a position on this thing, on the resolution, or is it up to me?

the resolution is provided for your information if the council wanted to discuss that and and usually well why don't you review it and bring it back to Council if you think a recommendation needs to be made before the convention itself I know that it's going through a process right as well okay I would just wait to League of Cities is doing their analysis of it right yeah okay seeing as you're I'm sorry Mr Mayor but seeing as you're the primary and uh Terry is the secondary. The two of you can go over it, decide how you're going to.

Sure. We can share the red card or yellow card.

Yep. Sounds good. We have a 4-0. Approve. Okay.

John Potter, See Stephen Freddie one day when you guys are up here i'm curious at what time in the future it'll change from a gavel to a zapper. John Potter, Maybe get something from the police chief i'm just curious when that will happen on one day you both here City Council meetings. John Potter, All right, moving forward. All right. Item 10, future agenda items. None received. We will go to item 11, staff updates. Mr. Beck.

Thank you. Staff last weekend had a long weekend. We had the Thursday market. We had two amazing concerts on Friday and Saturday. So we're trying to rest back up for the next concerts. With that said, we do have our Kids Day event coming up Saturday, August 29th from 9 a.m. to 12 at Zumwalt Park. I hear there's a rumor that Chief Ott is going to be in the dunk tank along with Captain Guerrero and Richard Torres. So that is Saturday the 29th at Zumwalt Park from 9 to noon. So come and dunk Chief Ott.

Can I see after council meeting to get some more info on that? Or maybe I can buzz you tomorrow.

When when does the contractors allow what time expire?

Well, as everybody else, there's a lot of frustrated people out there that, you know, we had this big ribbon cutting and, uh. yeah why is it closed is what they're saying i would direct them to contact caltrans christian lukens is the public information officer and uh caltrans district six that's kind of useless i can tell you when when you tell that to somebody they don't accept that very well yeah it's a caltrans project yeah nothing to report

and uh mr mondale before i give you the last word can i touch on a couple of things you're the mayor is um you know a couple weeks ago we had the passing of jerry salts one of taleri's uh center uh steve's i said say this right centurions yeah i think if i say that name right yes i heard over and of course um just been a a uh you know, long-time fixture of our community and of course, Bud Mount passing with that. So with that, as we close out the meeting, we'll just close out in recognition towards Jerry Saltz. And the last item I just wanted to say real quick, because I missed it earlier, was

Hal Hallstein, Okay, so with that is, as we said, will what we're going to do real quick as i'll do a quick moment of silence and and memorial for Jerry salts and but now. Thank you. And with that, we'll go to item 12 recess to close session to discuss the following public employee performance evaluation per government code 54957.

Thanks for putting them in the next time. Tell us we'd have to.

We're reconvening as counsel, there is nothing to report from close session artillery city council meeting is adjourned.