City Council - Regular Meeting

Our dearest Heavenly Father, we are so grateful to be gathered together this evening. Please help us that as we consider the items before Sandy City that we'd be able to make the best decisions for its residents and its employees. We are grateful for the abundant blessings and freedoms that we enjoy. We love thee and we say these things in the name of thy son, Jesus Christ. Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Chris Edwards with the council office. Cindy Sharkey council at large. Brooke Christensen, District 1.

Thank you, Ivan. This is a route that I take all the time. And so it's really interesting to see what your traffic data is. And it looks like you're... Your speed data shows basically what I've seen. If the 85th percentile is 35 miles an hour, that's the speed limit. So most of the people are driving the speed limit. It's not a super high traffic street. It's, I'm not surprised that people are driving the speed limit because it's also a windy street. So because of the street design, right, that would slow traffic a little bit. I do, I'm very concerned about 4 Bush. I'm expecting Allison to bri

Even if you put RRFBs there, I'm not sure that all that traffic, and there's a lot of it, turning right from Forbush on to Creek because people from 13th come down that way and people from 78th come that way. I don't think they'd even see the RRFBs flashing. I'm just really worried about that one.

I remember a few years ago Salt Lake County gave us part of this road. Who owns the road? Is it Sandy on the south side and Cottonwood Heights on the north side?

Okay. And then the bulb outs. When I was at this open house, I met a lot of bicyclists there. And I actually think it is a great road for bicyclists. There's a very wide shoulder active transportation lane that doesn't usually get parked in. And I think it's a great corridor for bicyclists. So I always worry when we're talking about bulb outs that we are affecting the safety of bicyclists. I know that there's a school crossing there. They have lights and they have a crossing guard. I don't know that there have been problems there. I don't know that there haven't. I've never witnessed them myse

So I guess I was just asking, is there a problem to be solved if we're talking about where the Oakdale school crossing is?

Mr. DeKaiser Thanks very much for the presentation I just want to start by saying today I witnessed another accident at Alta High School. There's been many. Drivers are distracted speeding is common rampant throughout the city appreciate the police department slow down Sandy campaign. But like I know from campaigning speeding is the main concern of residents not just on Creek Road across the entire city. This is the number one issue for residents. So why we're not reducing our speed limits. I am so unclear about this and I understand there's transportation policy and stuff like that. First que

And so. I would love to see thoughtful changes on how we think about this within the department moving forward. The city, the Cottonwood Heights and Sandy split the ownership of the road. Who decides the speed limit?

Yeah. In your experience, Ivan, would you say the windiness of the road would justify a speed limit reduction from 35 to 30 or 25? I think 30 to 35 is the appropriate range.

OK. You said that the Siesta crossing location provides better connectivity, but not enough sight distance. So I get that. But people are going to cross the road where they're used to crossing the road. My question is, is the determination for sight distance affected by the speed limit? So if we reduce the speed limit, it would affect whether or not we could put a crosswalk there.

I understand that. And I don't mean to be adversarial. You know I love you guys. I think the world of Ivan, it's just that this is a huge resident issue, and our roads are unsafe. And we know that from Safe Systems for All, Vision Zero, that Reducing the speed of cars is what we need to do. And we can do it on the cheap like that with signs and have enforcement. Or I feel like if we do bull bouts and whatever, it's like, oh, we don't have $20 million to do this around the city, which is true. And so I'm just trying to find the balance to make it so that our roads are safe because we are in an

Yeah, I understand that. And I understand that data is still forthcoming on that. But thank you guys for the reporting on this. Looking forward to working with Cottonwood Heights on improving this. I'll be talking to their council members about this presentation. But whatever we can do with you guys at the helm to make our streets safer.

Hi, thank you. Hey, Ryan, how much are bulb outs?

Okay. I'm thinking Segal Lily with street, just concrete because everything's been updated in stormwater, that type of thing.

Thank you, Madam Chair. So this week, it was very fun and very interesting to meet with the consultants that we've hired in the city for economic development. I was able to meet with council members D'Souza and Nickel, and it was interesting for us to share our visions and our desires of how to spur economic development and where that maybe could happen. So we got a chance to talk to each other about our goals and visions and also talk to the consultants about that too. So that was really gratifying. I hope all of you guys have taken the opportunity to do that because I found it very helpful.

Okay. Cindy hit two of them, which were great, the consultants from Economic Development. So thank you for the opportunity. We had to meet with them. And then Paintbox, welcome to Sandy. It was... a thing, a huge, amazing thing. And the donuts were really good. Also, last week there was a historic committee meeting. We received a very informative presentation on the historic mining railroad in Sandy. It was pretty cool. And then also an Arts Guild meeting. Frozen Jr. ended on Saturday. Or Frozen? Frozen Jr.? Which one was it? It was just Frozen. Thank you. And it was very well attended. They e

I just wanted to let you know I attended the Hale Center Cultural Series Monday. And it focused on the Pacific Islands. It was a wonderful performance. And I also got to meet Wednesday the camel. So I will send you guys some photos, and I'll give you the story behind that.