City Council - Regular Meeting

Okay, we'll go ahead and start our study session. First on public comments, are there any requests to speak?

Okay, great. So first item is City of Fount Valley Liability Workers Compensation Insurance Discussion presentation by Risk Manager Heather Campbell. Welcome.

Any questions of council? No, I think you're good.

Yeah, questions for you. So since we came back in 2023, like you said, our workers' comp, you know, average is a little bit higher than others. But since we've been back with GPIs for three years, has GPI offered any workers' comp training or look at our workers' comp where we're at?

And so you say annually, right? And doing 23, 24, 24, 25, any improvement have you seen or there's a risk that you saw that we could have improved? What's your analysis on that?

What's the most common thing you get from a workers' comp or a liability? Is it a slip and fall?

Thank you so much for your presentation. We really appreciate it.

Thank you. Can you go back to the fly? Sure. Thank you. So 23 to 26, so far, like you said, we paid, what, projected 27, 2.3, right? Yes. The total premium. And if we were part of the workers' comp, it would have been 5.4? No, this is liability. Oh, liability.

And I guess the next slide will be the workers' comp.

And the only reason why you need additional data because it's only now that having you on board as the risk analysis, you start closing out those claim because it has been open.

So my question for you is for those claims that are still open out there and then you try to close those claim out, are you able to foresee the cost of those projections future closeout claim? Because if those 87 claim and you project close them out, it's going to be way more than having with the three data now and it make more sense to have now than pay them out at that time because we pay most of it already.

I thought, I mean, I'm on the private sector side. If I close that year on the workers' comp, my next year, my workers' comp goes up. So I'm not sure how it's not calculated.

Vice Mayor Harper, you're up. Thank you. Yeah, so I think we have, you know, it says you want to wait until you have five years of data. I mean, we have five years of data. You could just go back to 2022 and 21, right?

Okay. Yeah. So then the other thing that we might look at is looking at a lower SIR, seeing how it affects the premium. So maybe not down to zero, but maybe $500,000 if it would. And, you know, leave it up to you to make that determination and JPIA if it makes sense. Okay.

But I just want to also take this opportunity to say congratulations on the risk, winning the risk award. That reflects really well on Fountain Valley of EU and the RIC and the risk management team really done a great job. So congratulations.

Thank you. Can I ask you a question? How do you determine the five-year mark data? Why is it five years? Why could it be three years? It would be seven years.

Got it. I understand. I just want to know how you come up with a year. As a private sector, we want workers' comp insurance right away. We don't want to wait until data. Yes. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Yeah, no, I'm good with the five years. Let's do the five years. And it's not just cost. There's a lot of other intangibles they're providing that we take benefits of that is preventing cost. So I'm good. Councilman McCloskey?

Sure. Well, congratulations again, Heather and Rick. Very well deserved for the award. And I think it was, I can't remember when it was, I just recently did the workplace harassment prevention for local agency officials training on my tablet, and it was very, very beneficial. JPIA makes it very, very easy, and they offer lots of training, conferences, and more. And so I'm happy. Thank you. Thank you. Great reporting, too.

Yeah, congratulations. Thank you to JPIA for tonight's presentation, and I think we have pretty much a consensus from staff that your recommendation should be carried out, so thank you. Okay, next we're going to move into short-term rentals. City enforcement strategy and fiscal year 2425 OC grand jury report recommendation presentation by neighborhood improvement manager Ashlyn Newman. Welcome.

Actually, you mentioned 24, there were seven, right? And then now there's six. Are those six same address as the seven or different?

I do, actually. Since the letterhead from our attorney for the city provides a tremendous credibility weight, is there anything we can do to, instead of having the challenges that we may have that are very, very time consuming and staff consuming, have a letter from the attorney for the city at some point just kind of doing a reminder. You know what I'm saying? taking action at that point exactly but just maybe reminding of our policy or just something that we can put in writing just in conjunction with the attorney for the city so then maybe we won't have what we have sometimes.

Councilman Granis. So for those that are still doing it when they shouldn't be, they're collecting occupancy tax. Are any of them paying it?

Well, I think that takes it to the next level of, I don't want to say, I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, criminal, but it sure seems criminal if you don't pay your taxes.

Exactly. yeah so which kind of lends me into this some grand jury report so back in 24-25 the grand jury did the report long-term solutions to short-term rentals and they I'm sorry before you get to that one other question is on the same line of thinking what if we made short-term rentals a hundred percent tax so this way if somebody did that we could go after them on the tax purpose or something like that

So I have to say, the city of Anaheim, just on a regular basis, they do allow short-term rentals. It's something that they allowed many years ago. And they had several hundred approved. They were very, very tight with their rules and regulations. You could sell the property and the license would transfer over. It might have been a three strikes you're out kind of a thing as far as being able to operate if you had some violations. It's dwindled a lot. And I'm not even talking about this program. I'm talking about the regular short-term rentals. No. This would take a lot of staff. We're already

Other council comments? Looking for some direction, either option one or option two?

i think option one's a default unless there's yeah so i i um i i tend to uh agree with option one uh however i think that uh during the olympics there will be a uh a demand and possibly an opportunity for um residents of fountain valley to who property owners that choose to maybe they have i don't know maybe they have uh people visiting from other countries you know and and i think um uh there i think we if we were to do a program i think it should be around the olympics not something like brea where they're doing you know thinking of more of like a permanent program So my thought would be to

Yeah, I would not do it just for the Olympics. For me, that would be just a headache without a lot of revenue. You know, it's the risk-reward. There would be very little reward. I also think the numbers that if we were to do it are way lower than what it would be. I think the numbers would be closer to about 1.5 million.

It's extremely conservative, especially for Fountain Valley. So if we were going to do it, there are ways to do it that protect the neighbors. I don't think there's an appetite for that at this point.

Well, I think we have talked about this years ago when we took away STR. Keep in mind that back then we don't have any policy. And I've said that when you put a policy preventing people from doing STR, people will be creative. Business people are creative. That's why they're business people. They find different way. There's my understanding there's a shift that went to sober living home. Can we do anything about that? No. That's a consequence of taking something that we didn't have a policy. And we can't do anything on sober living home right now. I think that's even more dramatic to community

Yes, and just for clarity, so Councilman Bowie, option one or option two? It wasn't clear.

that's gonna be the pleasure of the council I appreciate my my point I'm trying to say is people I know my my my one try say is people are creative okay sounds like without any vote from the council member buoy I think it's option one well I want to say something if I may so if property owners did participate I mean on a regular basis

It would not be homeowners insurance. We're talking general liability. I mean, this is, it's not just, oh, we're going to get money from permitting. We're going to get, you know, TOT tax and everything like that. This is a big project. If we're going to permit this, whether it's on a short-term basis or forever, I'm not against short-term rentals in theory. If we have everything in place, I wouldn't do something like that. I even said way back when we were going to ban them, we had 220 some odd. They went up from whatever it was, the minimal we had in 2015 when we thought we had an ordinance.

Option one for me. Like I said, I'm option one now, but I would consider something around the Olympics.

And I would say option one is really what the public expects from us as policy leaders. I'll never forget all of that public comment four years ago. And so I'm just kind of anticipating how the public would would receive a change in policy. The other thing to consider, Olympics are long-term. They're usually six to seven weeks. That's not a short-term rental. And so you may have people that want to do long-term rentals, and that's okay.

I'm just curious. It doesn't sound like anybody's in favor. Why has this even been brought back?

I think we stick with option one. All right. Thanks so much, Ashley. Okay, next is the Cultural Arts, Recreation, Sports, and Seniors, or CARS Advisory Committee presentation by Deputy City Manager, Community Services Director, Rob Frazell. Welcome.

Councilwoman Grant, Constantine. What was that?

OK, so Rob, can you go back a couple of slides? Not the very first one. I think the second one where it talks to seniors. OK, so I'm a little thrown. OK, so I get this. This is for Vietnamese. Cultural arts, recreation, sports, and seniors. That's where I get thrown.

So it's not only for Vietnamese, it's across the board. It's for everybody. Okay, well, no, I'm hoping to be very inclusive, of course.

Councilman Bui? I think you responded. It's not just for Vietnamese. You replied right there with other identified demographic. That means anybody else.

Yeah, I support this. I think this is a good idea. I like the fact that the fifth concert was Vietnamese performers. I don't think we got quite the attendance we should have because I thought the communication on the acts were not accurate enough because many people thought they would be singing in Vietnamese only or just Vietnamese. And they didn't. They were great. They were great performers. And everybody who was there, whether you were Vietnamese or not Vietnamese, everybody enjoyed it. And I think that's the kind of stuff that we need to do and improve upon. And with a committee like this

I think some of the other really big ideas that this committee are going to be tackling is the park's master plan. And getting a lot of that feedback from the public, that just helps streamline rather than have it all concentrated here, let's say, during council meetings, which are packed with agenda items. A lot of times we don't have the adequate time to flush out some of those ideas in a setting that I think it really deserves that kind of attention. So I think that's one of the tasks of this CARS committee is to help us with that vision.

I agree with the mayors that it is important to form this committee as part of the master plan as you stated earlier that you want everyone participation in the master plan as they are going to be part of the community.

Yeah, you mentioned that five committee and then five members and then two staff members. What is the purpose of involving two staff members?

Okay, on your part, I totally agree. It's very important that your department needs to be involved. I'm just trying to figure out how the police department, you know, comes in and play. Because the only reason I only say that with, you know, with a grain of salt is because to the minority group, when they see the police, like, I'm not getting involved with that. Why is there police involved here? They might get scared.

If that was hindering or impacting our ability to operate as a committee, I think we could look at a different- Just keep understanding also the cultural perspective from particularly the Vietnamese American. When there's a police involved, they will shy away. No, I'm not getting involved. There's a police, I'm not sure what they're there for. So they might get scared. So I just wanted to show from that perspective. But I understand that the component of the police department have involved, actually in my opinion, I think it's great. Yeah. But also try to understand from that perspective when

okay we still need direction from City Council consensus I see heads nodding yes so terrific yeah we're gonna go forward great job thanks so much excited okay and our last item on study session information on procedure for public comments

I think I just want to make an observation that I think we take this part of the meeting very seriously. It's a key part of the feedback from the public. It's part of our democracy. And so I know we try to make every attempt to make the speakers feel welcome, to give them the time to express themselves. And I think that's something that's part of our Fountain Valley brand of being a nice place to live. So thanks for all your efforts on that.

And many cities do not do that. And the other thing that we do that I really like is that we allow the residents to speak when the agenda item comes up as opposed to everybody doing it at the beginning of the meeting or at the end of the meeting.

Yeah, I just want to say great presentation, Rick. Thank you so much.

Okay, thanks so much. Well, that'll end our study session. We're going to take a few-minute break. We'll come back at 6 p.m. for general meeting. Thank you.

At 6.07 p.m., welcome to City of Fount Valley general meeting. We'll start with an invocation. If you could please rise. God of wisdom, we seek your help today. Come and let your wisdom fall upon us. Oh, Lord, as we gather here for this meeting, give us clarity so that we can effectively deliberate each part of today's agenda, reveal challenging areas, and show us the best solutions that will apply. point our eyes to every positive outcome since our last meeting, and let these favorable results and developments encourage every heart in this room. Dear God, help us apply your wisdom as we decid

Thank you. Do we have any items to report out of closed session?

Okay, thank you. And next we'll move to City Manager update. City Manager Maggie Lee.

Thank you, City Manager Lee. For the mayor's update, mayor's breakfast on October 20th, so join us for the next mayor's breakfast. This will be this Thursday at 8 AM, featuring guest speakers from our school districts. So we are excited to have Dr. Gabriela Maffi. She's with Garden Grove Unified School District. The breakfast will take place at Memorial Care Health System. That's over at 17390 Booker Street. District 1, upcoming career fair business registration. First District Supervisor Janet Winn, in partnership with the County of Orange, will be hosting a career fair at Freedom Hall in Mil

So thanks for coming out tonight. Congratulations. Thank you for all that you do and will continue to do. It's my home, so you know. Do you want to say a few words? Okay. All right, we'll get a picture of you.

So for those who do not know Cheryl, Marla McGee, she's not a good cook. She's a great cook. And then if you want to try her food, please join the Roto Club because she makes breakfast every morning and every event. She's there. One, two, three. One, two, three.

Next is a recognition of our outgoing finance director, Ryan Smith.

Did you not know? Yeah, he's going. He's going to do it.

Well, I'll start with a couple comments, Ryan. So for those who don't know Ryan Smith, he has been an invaluable member of the city since joining us in October 2022. This is following an extensive search for what was then our next finance director. We have been truly fortunate to have Ryan as part of our strong executive management team for over the past three years. With more than 20 years of auditing and municipal finance experience, Ryan has built an impressive career, beginning as an account technician in local government. His expertise and commitment played a critical role in rebuilding c

We'd like to present a certificate of recognition to Ryan Smith, Finance Director. In recognition of your dedicated service and valuable contributions to the city of Fountain Valley, your leadership, professionalism, and commitment to excellence has made a lasting impact on our organization and our community. We extend our sincere appreciation and best wishes for continued success in your future endeavors. Ryan. And we're going to ask any members of the Measure H committee if you'd like to say a few words. Well, we got them. All right, I think City Manager Lee.

Ryan, I think there's a few council comments before we give you the floor. Councilman Granis.

Yeah, so Ryan, I want to say that, and I've said this at many meetings before, is as a council, before you were here, we had some issues in finance. And as a council, we didn't always trust the numbers we were given. And on a number of occasions, the numbers magically changed up and down and all around. And I said many times that what you have brought to this agency to this city is you provided the trust of your council and when you provide us numbers we know that we can count on them it may not sound out there like that's such a big deal that that should be a given but it is a really big deal

I don't think Council Member Granis is not the only one who's unhappy. I'm unhappy as well. Not only that you bring us the level of trust, but your professionalism is there. And really appreciate your professionalism here on the dais as well in closed sessions. You provide us very valuable data. and those data is very important for us to make decisions, whether it's for the city, how we manage city business, but for all the personnel that works for this great city. Without your data, it's hard for us to make decisions without those reliable data. So once again, we surely will miss you, and we

So, Ryan, did I call you Omar once too many? Is that what's happening here? Just kidding. We miss you already. Thank you so very much. Thank you.

Thank you. Yeah, you know, in my career I've led finance departments, and I know how difficult it is. There's so many moving pieces. You've got to payroll. It's like the mail. It never stops. It's always another pay period that's coming up, and people are putting in hours. you got to get them right and so you've accomplished a number of things which I want to share with the remind people the public of one is we switch to a biennial budget which means we do the budget every two years this is the first year and that's projected to save about 500 hours a year of budget preparation measure HH the

Ryan is a passionate basketball player, and one of the things that we got to do, which was a lot of fun, was play some basketball. Got some sharp elbows. Sharp elbows, quick. I'm still not recovered from that last game, but that was one of the things that we're definitely going to miss. City Manager Lee also is pretty fierce on the court, so I'll never forget those games. What about me? Yeah, you're amazing. Amazing. Amazing. So Ryan, do you want to make a few comments?

Okay, next is First City Council, Successor Agency, Housing Authority, public comments on unscheduled matters only. Do we have any requests to speak?

She's indicating no, so we'll draw. Okay. Next speaker, Libby. Welcome.

Thank you. We have a common theme of the flock topic. And so at this time, I'd like to bring up our police chief or police and the staff to provide a little bit of information on this timely topic.

Thank you, Chief, for that safety information. As we are still in public comments for unscheduled matters, we appreciate that. We're going to continue with the public comments.

First, Councilman Granoff. Oh, go ahead, Councilman McConister. I'll defer.

So, you know, in light of all these speakers tonight, I do have a question for our city. I don't know if it's the attorney for the city or our city manager, Maggie. You know, we are hearing, you know, a time deadline if we want to potentially exit the contract, you know, being October 1st. To my knowledge, we haven't received anything official. I think it was Council Member Grandis. You were going to get us some information from OCPA, what all the timelines were. Basically, the clock is ticking. We have two city council meetings in September. So that's it. Thank you.

Yeah, I guess I normally do the AB 1234 comments at the end, and I present on different meetings I attend. So since there's so much, and I honestly did not know there would be so many speakers tonight on OCPA, but since there are, I think it's better to talk about it now than later when most people leave. So first off, for Ms. Johnson and her partner, Mr. Al, I want to thank you guys. Tonight, you kept your comments to OCPA and to the agency and what you strongly believe in and how important this is to you. Clearly, you drive up here from your home. You're not a member of an OCPA city, but you

So, you know, if we have to be in this waiting situation, I really would like to know from the attorney for the city, I just don't want the city to be on the hook adversely financially. So what is our, I mean, this is just a waiting game here.

Actually, before the City Attorney respond to that, thank you, Council Member Granis, for the report. But I do recall at the last meeting you did say that you were going to bring back the information as to the date when we need to exit without any penalty. As Council Member Constance said earlier, you made all the report, but you left that out. Do you have a report for that? I'm just wondering.

Yeah. One thing just to answer on that in liability. So if they buy energy contracts, let's say the worst thing happens. They buy energy contracts and we decide that we're going to leave. Then they sell those energy contracts. It's not something like we're 100% responsible for 100% of the energy product that's purchased. The city of Huntington Beach, when they left, there was potential liability on their part. But what they did is they did it over a six month period so that all those contracts were sold. All those contracts were sold for more money than it cost actually, so they paid nothing w

And you're right, I did say that I would have that particular date when contracts are being purchased, but contracts are not purchased all at one time. Contracts are purchased about a year in advance. So some of the contracts are already being purchased.

uh but again the liability would only be for if those contracts were sold for less than well i just want to be sure that the city has the upper hand here i mean to me cancel the contract start over again that's just a thought thank you okay so let's move into public comments on scheduled matters do we have any requests to speak i have no request to speak on scheduled matters

All right, next is consent calendar. Consent calendar items one through nine will be approved simultaneously with one motion unless separate action and or discussion is requested. Does anyone wish to pull a consent item?

Yes, I don't need to pull it, but I'm going to register a no vote on item number. Item number nine, the creative ordinance, as I stated when this was brought up, I don't think we need to draft an ordinance for this. I think it's unnecessary. Thank you.

I'd like to move items number one through nine.

Are we going to vote on this software? I'm not there yet with the consent calendar.

Okay, moving into administrative items. Item 10, approval of amendment number one to agreement with Temporary Staffing Professionals, Inc. for an amount not to exceed $180,000 for temporary staffing services. Presentation by risk manager, Heather.

Thank you, Heather. I'll open up to questions from council. I'll move approval. Any other discussion? Please vote. Yes, question from Councilman Bowie.

How critical is it for the city interim operations if we don't approve this? How critical of the city operation if we don't approve this staffing?

Okay. Well, I like the idea that you brought this back. The contract doesn't end until June of 2027. Yes. Which is a lot more than three months.

This is an indication that I hope to see many other vendors bring before us ahead of time like this. This is great. It gives us plenty of time to have questions or discuss further if we need to. But other than that, we sure don't want anything that slows down the progress of the city.

Hit save. Oh, I didn't even do it. Okay. There we go.

Where's Scott Kim? He should be very proud of me right now.

Okay. That's an exciting item 10. Moving on to item 11. Approval of amendment number 3 to agreement with Libert Cassidy Whitmore for legal services to allocate an additional $600,000 for specialized legal services presentation. City Clerk Risk Administrator Rick Miller.

And you said this is not due until June next year? Wow, and a second one in a row before three months. I wanted to give you a certificate.

all right they're listening I'm gonna vote no just to see what color so there was a first from councilman Grandis a second from councilwoman Konstantin we had discussion I think we're ready to vote first I jumped the gun I did the first and second first

I don't know why I'm hearing ESPN music every time that flashes. This is exciting. Okay, thank you so much. We'll move on to item 12, approval of amendment number one to professional legal services agreement between City of Fountain Valley, successor agency to the Fountain Valley Agency for Community Development, the Fountain Valley Housing Authority, and Straddling, Yoka, Carlson, and Ralph, LLP. Presentation by Neighborhood Improvement Manager Ashlyn Newman, welcome back.

When you said new council, you meant new lawyers, not new city council.

Are there any questions from council? With an IL?

I'd like to move item number 12, please.

I'll second. Any further discussion? Please vote.

Item number 12 passes 5-0. I just want to say thank you to Councilor Brady for being in the audience. Thank you for all your work.

We're having fun. I have to say, Ashlyn, I love that title that you have. Has that always been your title?

For about two or three years. See, I didn't know either.

Okay, item number 13, rehabilitation and resurfacing of New Hope Street from Edinger Avenue to Heil Avenue, Ward Street from Apache River Avenue to Ellis Avenue, Ellis Avenue from Brookhurst Street to Ward Street, and Slater Avenue from Starfish Avenue to Ward Street. Project number 25005, presentation by engineering associate Ryan Damon, welcome.

I have a question. So with regards to the funding sources, according to the staff report, the total budget is $4,500,000. And the estimated project cost is $3.7 million, roughly. So it's an $800,000 difference. So does that mean that, and then there's various funds listed, the general fund, Measure HH, RMRA, Measure M, Water Fund, Sewer Fork. So the $800,000 difference, will that come out of the general fund? So it'll end up with the general fund being under budget by the $800,000? About, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. I just want to make a quick comment. So, you know, these are one of many projects that the city has committed to returning our pavement to those conditions sort of prior to the 405 construction. And we do appreciate your patience. These projects, these procurement efforts take time, but you're going to start seeing construction. And that's what's exciting to me is we're going to start seeing results. And so get ready for paving and get that pavement condition index back up closer to 100. All right.

I'd like to second. That's okay. Any other discussion? Please vote.

Can we get some sound effects with the future?

I keep hearing ESPN. Okay. Item 14, project number 25016, communication improvements for New Hope Street and City Hall. Accept the bids and award a construction contract to Crosstown Electrical and Data Inc. for the project. two five zero one six communication improvements for New Hope Street and City Hall project in the amount not to exceed one hundred seventy four thousand four hundred eighty two dollars presentation by Yesenia Penaloza assistant engineer welcome

Thanks so much. Are there any questions from Council?

Vice Mayor Harper. Can you go back to the map of the city hall improvements? The map? Which one? That one. That's good. Okay. So it says you're going to install two additional fiber optic cables in the existing conduit, and the purpose is to provide redundant cables. So I guess my question would be if the purpose is redundancy, wouldn't you want to put it in, like, a different conduit? Because theoretically, like, the reason it would fail is because somebody drills and hits the conduit. So why would you put it in the same conduit if you're redundant?

okay it's still I guess I guess it still doesn't I guess I don't quite understand the the it's not a value it's not for it's for a separation of data not for uptime or backup yes okay so it's just a kind of just adding additional capacity exactly or the redundancy okay all right thank you I'd like to move item number 14 first one Ted your turn

I'll go ahead and second. Any other discussion? Okay, please vote.

Thank you so much. Okay, we'll move on to item 15, Voluntary Range Intergovernmental Transfer Program for Cost Recovery of Emergency Medical Services for Calendar Year 2025. Presentation by Division Chief Tim Psyche. Welcome, Chief.

Actually, I do, Chief. You say it's a voluntary program, right? And you say it's not a guarantee either. So why have it?

Okay. Any other questions? No, go ahead. I move. Thank you. Councilman Brandes?

Yeah so two things one I remember three years when this first came to us and the math never made sense to me it still doesn't make sense to me but the results are there for sure. Can we put in more money and get more money back?

I'll second councilman Bowie's motion Yes, I had a question so just from a timing standpoint, so do we pay this entire amount up front in a lump sum I

When you say we get the payment back, do they, what is that? Do we get it back all at once or we just get higher rate? Yeah.

Is it a dollar-for-dollar amount that we get back, the 541?

Okay, so I don't quite understand. So I thought that the reason we do this is because we can charge a higher rate per transport.

Well, to the provider or to the passenger?

Okay, so there's two rates. There's a range of rates that Medi-Cal will pay. And so without this program, they pay the lower rate. Because with the program, they pay the higher rate per transport, right? So we're getting the higher rate for each transport.

Okay, got it. I think I got it now. Okay, thanks.

I think there was a first and second? Both already.

and item 15 passes yeah and I also want to just say thanks again to both yourself also chief McQuaid who was really kind of his his foresight and that started this this ambulance program it's really been a tremendous benefit to the city and you know you've done a great job at continuing continuing what he started and really appreciate your work thank you thanks so much

All right. Item 16. It is here. Approval of the Parks and Community Services Parks Master Plan. Presentation by Deputy City Manager, Community Services Director, Rob Frizzell.

My question for Director Rob Rizzo. Are you happy with this report?

Great. Well, like you said, the community wants more community events. And hopefully, Fallon Valley will be known as a city of sportmanship, like I said before. The reason for that is it will bring tourism, competitions, that will bring in people dining in, spending money into the city, pulling gas before they're driving back home.

There needs to be somewhere to be charged, right? You have a charging station, charge them before you go home. So that will hopefully generate some revenue for the city.

That's it. Any other questions, comments? Councilwoman Constantine.

Yeah, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much, both of you. Thank you so much.

Oh, one last thing I would like to add is, like you say, community event, Rob, something to think about, a lot of parking, right? Because you can have multiple events, but if you don't have enough parking, that's going to be an issue. So something to think about.

Thanks for putting this together. I know it's taken, what, a year and a half, two years to get it all together, but really a lot of outreach to the community and great feedback from the people. And this is, you know, along with we recently did the public services, public works program. Yeah, they just did a kind of a facility plan as well. So now between the two plans, the Parks Master Plan, the Public Works Plan, what's it called?

Facility assessment, along with the dollars associated with each, it just gives us some real information where we can plan for the next 20, 30 years of improvements. And I think it's just really, really good work. So thanks again.

So this is just great, right? We were very excited to have the plan published and ready to go. It's a beautiful document and you guys did amazing work. One of the things I was thinking, would it be possible to get a few of these completely bound, maybe spiral bound? I would love to have a copy, I know it's big. But also just make that available to maybe some key areas around the city. So folks can actually see it, look at the maps. I think that might be helpful to start, first of all, learning what's in there. It's also going to be helpful for the CARS committee, because now I think you can se

I want to add something, a little challenge for you, Rob. Okay. And we'll be here to support you as well. As you know where the line withdraws, where number three is, the whole entire line where the great middle and the amphitheater. Currently there's the fence from the county, right? I know where you're going. Oh, you know where I'm going with this, right? If you want to start communication with them, if they take out that fence, so a resident, if they go to Amphitheater, they can access through there. If not right now, they will have to go all the way around, right? And, you know, it makes s

You know, I just thought of another idea. So I think you really encapsulated this concept of a downtown because we have for years struggled to figure out where that is in our city. But I think you just told us what we've always known and that our downtown is actually in our parks. And part of that theme of healthy fitness valley, right, is really what we've been living all this time. And so thanks for pointing out that our downtown is maybe a little bit different than other cities, right? And that's where we play and we have fun. And so much more is coming our way.

Actually, what I've said is maximize the resource that we have and look at what we don't have. And that's something that we have, so we should maximize it.

With the potential of a big event center of some sort there too, there could be food and music and alcohol. I mean, that's what people are looking for. So there's the potential where it truly can be a downtown and not just for those who are sports enthusiasts. Yes.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Next, item 17, designation of voting delegate and alternatives for the League of California Cities annual business meeting in September 2026. Presentation by City Clerk Administrator Rick Miller.

Alternates if necessary is there a reason we just can't make this permanent the mayor is the delegate the vice mayor is the alternate and We ever need a third. I mean, why don't we just do this and so we don't have to go through this every year not that it's I think the League is required to do The league requests a form every year that I send back to them I understand but if we do it permanently then you could just do it For example the mayor doesn't attend or the vice mayor you know Well then we appointed an alternate at that point Well I would like to volunteer to go so I'm planning on atte

Okay. Next is item 18. Approve a third amendment to the city manager's employment agreement. Provide additional compensation and benefits following a positive performance review. Presentation by city attorney Colin Burns.

I just wanted to make one comment. I appreciate everyone on the council for completing the performance review in a timely manner and getting us to this point. So just a word of thanks to everyone.

Just one of the questions for the city attorney. I understand that this question was a closed session matter, how we made the determinations. the city manager has done a tremendous good job overall but none not all of us do agree that she should receive all the requests that she wants for as part of evaluations in the future are we able to say who vote yes and who vote no for on the the On the request on the salary?

Okay. I just want to know, just for clarification, that's all.

So, Council Member Bowie, when you vote, do you just want to see if there's a red thing up there?

Well, I've been seeing green all night long.

Okay, next is City Council's successor agency, Housing Authority, public comments on unscheduled matters only. Are there any requests to speak? Okay. All right, we'll move into City Council Successor Agency Housing Authority AB1234, general comments. Councilman Grandes, do you want to continue?

Sure, thank you. So on July 16th, 23rd, and the 30th, I attended Concerts in the Park. I want to thank the Parks and Rec team for a great concert series. You guys, they're not here, but I'm sure they're listening. Great job. I think everybody really enjoyed it and each week it got bigger and bigger there. On Friday, July 17th, I attended the Albertsons on Brookhurst and Ettinger, their grand reopening. They redid the store there. Tuesday, July 28th, Boys and Girls Club of Hunting Valley. I'm a board member, attended the board meeting. Wednesday, July 29th, the Fountain Valley Schools Foundatio

Well, first of all, I want to thank my council members for the last meeting. I think I wasn't here. You guys had it, right? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The notice. I was here. On the notice today, I was kind of surprised on our... The city finance director was leaving two weeks, but I was out of town on vacation. So I guess I just find out through you that he was leaving. He put in the notice two weeks ago, so it's sad to see him leaving. But once again, I wish him best of luck with Dinner Point. I like to know if for item for future considerations I know we said earlier but I didn't have a thought

We're not going to know what it would cost us because there's so many variables involved. There's no way to know how much it potentially could because those contracts would be sold, as I mentioned earlier. There's absolutely no way to give that kind of answer.

especially in September when we don't even know what the rates will be until probably October November well it's a great idea and I'd like to second it okay nevertheless thank you thank you and I'll go into memory report later okay and just as a clarification we we did move the items for consideration from sort of the end of the meeting to the to the beginning and so that was just kind of a courtesy to make sure that that was I just want to make sure I understand you're asking for

feedback on what the potentials will be for in terms of correct but the potential would be in if there are any and you say that's not possible but or at least we need what's at the exact month of exiting if we need to because I guess when the speaker says six months so I'm not sure that's true or not I don't want to vet that out it's my understanding that it was going to be the various timelines of

for whatever was going forward that's what we understood from the last meeting so yes okay okay councilwoman constantine sure thank you okay before i forget the library is going to have a sale and It starts this Saturday. It's Saturday, August 22nd through the following Saturday, just every day that the library is open, the Friends of the Library, that is. They're going to have their annual half-price sale. The entire store is on sale. However, it does not include the items in the display case. So that's at the Fountain Valley Library, the Fountain Valley Friends of the Library. So some of my

uh i guess it's okay only if you find out if the deadline is six months and you have to figure that out you need to figure out the timeline if we need to if we choose to exit we make sure that we're x we have enough time to respond truly um city manager maggie it was if we review the tape from the last meeting it was just going to be the various timeline of events where our city is involved that's the

I'll make sure that we get that to all council members prior to the next meeting. Not a problem. Okay. Appreciate that. Vice Mayor Harper.

Thank you. On July 15th, attended the PCTA board meeting. July 16th, the OCTA Finance Committee meeting. also later that day the concert in the park and then on July 22nd the JPIA award ceremony where it was mentioned earlier Fountain City of Fountain Valley out of 102 cities won a risk management award for our excellence in risk management so congratulations to Rick and Heather and and the rest of the team July 30th the concert in the park with the Vietnamese group which was they were they were great really enjoyed their energy so looking forward to seeing seeing them next year August 1st is

All right. I'm being told that I have to come clean, that it was the beginner level that we played in.

Thanks, Annette. So my activities since the last meeting included the following. On July 16th, I was honored to make some opening remarks at the third concert in the park at Miles Square Park. The headlining band was We Are the 80s, and they were amazing. It was great to see huge crowds there for this totally tubular event at our great recreation center at Miles Square Park. On July 17th, I was honored to participate in the grand reopening of the Albertsons store on Southwest Brookhurst Street, Nettinger. Thank you to Councilman Grandis who was there for the festivities. On July 18th, I partic