Village Council - Regular Meeting

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED. THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 23, 2026 IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 720 P.M. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENT MEDITATION. May I see that roll call, please?

Thank you very much appreciate that the most to approve the agenda. So moved. Moved by Vice Mayor Martin. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Councilperson Michael Ward. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say nay. Hearing none. Next is good and welfare. If you have anything to say, you come up first and last name for the record and your address and the floor is yours. Good and welfare. Come on up.

Thank you. Next for good and welfare. Good and welfare. Going once.

Next for good and welfare. Going once. Good and welfare going twice. Good and welfare, three times? Okay. Closing out for good and welfare. Before I turn it over to the council, as far as the police officers, we're down two officers, I believe, Chief? Three. We're down three officers, so these are replacements. okay yeah so these these are replacements these are this is not adding to the budget these are replacements we're good these are replacements as far as retaliation I know I'm not a part of anything like that at all so I will look into that, and if I see that anybody's a part of anything

Okay, I'm going to call you tomorrow, all right? We'll go through this. I'm going to text you everything, okay? You can do it inside the park and we close it down and I leave it overnight. Okay, all right, thank you. I'm going to call you tomorrow for all the details, okay? I'll text you. Okay, take care, my brother. Okay, bye-bye. There we go. So I have been planning something over the Fourth of July using sponsors because we really don't have the budget. So I'm working on that. So I've been inquiring about the soulful property taxes. Been looking into that, so I've been going through the pro

Joining the lawsuit, I've also talked to a couple other managers and mayors from different municipalities, two of the, I think, four or five that you guys named. we don't have a problem with joining the lawsuit. What I will say is, is that we just have to make sure that we can hold up our end of what they're asking of us or requiring from us, and that's all. When it comes to the tot lot, listen you all, the tot lot, even though it's an open tot lot, it's an open space, I will say that, individuals from all over Miami-Dade County, even from out of state, can go to the tot lot. I understand that

Hey, everyone. Can you hear me? Oh, there he goes. Thanks, everyone, for talking today. I always appreciate it. I wanted to answer some of the things that I heard, just a few of them. Denise White, I am chair of code enforcement. I'm always happy to sit down and talk with you. I hope that no one is abusing the power, and if there is, I would like to find out immediately, so please schedule to meet with me. I do regularly talk with residents about their code enforcement issues, and I always try and help resolve it in the resident's favor. And I would like to think that no one's abusing that pow

Yeah, just one comment. Regarding the budget, essentially, I guess, but as it pertains to committees, so I take a lot of Councilperson Winters' points, and I would hope that we would start to have a couple of meetings each month again, perhaps like we used to have, meaning one round of committee meetings culminating in the general council meeting at the end of the month so specifically admin and finance public safety addressing the police department issues all the way down to including the public affairs committee which which would address the transparency issues of planning for marketing esse

Just a few quick comments. I think I vaguely remember a couple years ago, I think there was a law passed that those who are reporting code violations cannot report it anonymously. So whomever it is that is feeling as though they're being retaliated against, I mean, I think there might be a way to speak to the manager, determine if that is actually happening. Sometimes we perceive things and that is not the reality. But just in case, there is a way that we can make sure that no one is behaving in that way because, of course, we definitely wouldn't support that. This is a place where you are abl

Absolutely. Thank you very much, Madam Vice Mayor. When the clerk gets back in, I'll have her address the special meeting situation, because I was not involved in that. That was between the clerk, the manager, and the attorney. So when she gets back in, I'll have her go through that.

So on that topic, I would just like to say that my understanding of the reason for the special meeting is because with Trying to make the meeting manageable essentially and so we should be expecting to have two rounds of meetings each month like I said and so in the in the environment of committee meetings on Essentially a monthly basis matched with the general counsel on a monthly basis that would essentially alleviate the need for special meetings as it were and so my understanding as my discussion with the manager was That it is simply to create a manageable plate for these meetings so that

Yeah, so I know it's about the contract. And it's a contract, we have to do a resolution for the contract, the contract that was discussed last time. But Madam Clerk, if you can for a second. Just very quickly, the special meeting that was brought up, why are we having a special meeting? I know it's between the manager and the attorney, but the reason why we're having a special meeting is not like it was planned before, it was because of.

Came up yesterday? Yeah. And that was because something couldn't make the agenda? Okay. And so you guys, and so you all know that, so if we plan a meeting and we put out the items, it has to be at least two days, at least 48 hours before the meeting. So something that is introduced from them on Monday, today is Tuesday, it can't go on today's meeting. And so it just can't do that. And so that's the reason why I correct the special meeting meeting.

It wasn't ready. It doesn't make a lot of sense because the manager mentioned last meeting that he negotiated the terms. So if we had this known last month, why are we waiting until the day before to ask to put it on our agenda?

Thank you for the information. Madam Clerk, can I ask you a question? What is the cost for us to have a meeting here? Do we have to do something with the Miami Herald? Are we supposed to notify it?

Now, our notice by law, do we have to put it in newspapers, or is it just standard?

Thank you so much. Attorney, I mean, Councilperson Irvine.

Yeah, just quickly, I just want to say that if you could envision it, there's essentially an infinite pile on top of each and every single agenda. And so it is my belief that if we can get back to a committee schedule. Now, it used to be that we had three weeks of meetings each month, three Tuesdays. because we had six committees, I believe. So I would certainly support combining committees into a three-committee structure or something to that effect where we could accomplish it in a Tuesday evening because we used to have a committee that started at, if I'm not mistaken, 6 p.m. The following

All right, moving right along. We're gonna skip the swearing in for now because the police, are they back? Are we good? Okay, I know they were dealing with something outside. They're always working. Okay, so Chief, if you can come on up and get ready. Go to the mic, G. Go to the mic and just kind of introduce him and talk about him real quickly.

All right, Jacobi, let's get some pictures with them, and then we'll come down, too.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA? MOVED BY COUNSELOR LIGHTFOOT-WARD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILPERSON WINTERS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. HEARING NONE. MOVING RIGHT ALONG, AGENDA ITEM H1, NORTHEAST 86th STREET AND SECOND AVENUE, LEFT TURN RESTRICTION. COUNCILPERSON WINTERS.

SO SOMETHING THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH. THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS APPROVED.

Yeah, it was approved. Moved by Councilperson Lightfoot-Ward, second by Councilperson Winters. That was instant. Yeah, we're on H1 right now.

So I've spoken with many residents of Sherwood Forest over the last 15 years about this no right-hand turn sign. I mean, right-hand turn only sign, which basically says you can't take a left-hand turn where you're going from west side of Sherwood Forest to the east side towards 2nd Avenue on the... village maintain road northeast 86th street as far as we can tell we can't figure out the purpose for the sign i've talked with every almost every resident in sherwood forest and i 100 believe the sign either should be modified or removed If the sign actually does have an intent or a purpose, like p

Are they allowed to? In a second. Let me just, I'll get you one second. We'll open it up to you guys first, then we'll come back to the council. So let's open it up to the residents. So come on, just come on up, come on and say your name and address for the record and go ahead and answer. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.

Thank you very much. Thank you. So I had the exact same idea as you. And I went all around Miami, El Portel, and I found a sign on North Miami Avenue and 89th Street where we actually modified it ourselves. And it says school days 815 to 930, and then 330 to 430. So we have pre-done this before on others, and I understand. Thank you.

All right, so we're still in public comment. Then we'll come back to the council for responses. Anybody else from public comment?

Northeast 2nd Avenue would be a state road. All other roads are county roads. Northeast 2nd Avenue, North Miami Avenue are state.

there would be a process. Okay, we love processes here. I do, I do. Okay. I'll speak on that also.

Thank you. And isn't process spelled T-A-L-L-A something or other?

Anyone else from the audience good and well, not good and well, but public comment for this item?

Thank you. Anyone else, public comment for this item? Going once. Going twice, three times. Let's bring it back to the council. Go ahead, Councilperson Urbano, you wanted to say something.

Sure, so after 15 years thereabouts living here, I have had jobs where I've been working I have driven from anywhere from, I don't know, Sarasota to Naples to Key West, Orlando, Jupiter, Boca, spent a lot of time driving around in Boca, Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Las Olas, all parts of Miami-Dade County. It is my understanding that as a resident of El Portal, the most effective way to ensure that outside traffic is not using El Portal as any kind of a cut through or otherwise shortcut. So I do take shortcuts, however you gotta know the secret about shortcuts. Shortcuts are not about saving t

Thank you very much. Anyone else from the council?

Just a quick comment on that. I do think that Councilman Erbaum has a point. That doesn't negate whatever frustration is being experienced by those who live in close proximity to the sign, but I do think that a lot of planners will tell you that the more, I guess, the more restrictive The less ease the outside driver has in kind of cutting through your streets, it makes it such that you will have less people traveling on your streets in total. I do take very... something that Councilman Winter says, which is that he is unsure as to what was the initial purpose of this being a left hand only si

Thank you so much for the response. First of all, I neglected to review this email before. Well, when I sat down, I saw it, but now that I review it, it does seem to really answer some of those questions. I'm looking forward to seeing what the report holds. It sounds like there is an issue, but the issue isn't necessarily ripe at this moment for analysis and any sort of meaningful determination from the body as to how to proceed. And if we did decide to proceed, it seems like there's a multi-step process that we would have to engage in and determine whether or not we would want to engage in th

Thank you very much, Madam Vice Mayor. Council President Irvine.

Yes, so I understand I can be both arrogant and presumptuous sometimes, and I do apologize for that. I want to explain extremely succinctly that the reason that that should not be a point where a left-hand turn is permitted is for two reasons. The first is that the proximity of 86th to 87th, which is a... device controlled intersection meaning traffic light it creates an expectation for drivers passing through that anybody essentially thinking anybody coming out of 86 turning left will be a surprise to almost any vehicle traveling north on second avenue this is not my opinion this is I will pu

Yes, thank you so much. So on the council, we represent the will of the people. It is our job to bring what the people of this village want and what they believe. And I know the reason I brought this up is because I had 100% approval from that short force area that they would like that sign either modified or removed. There was a few things I heard that I want to speak about. Manager, I appreciate you giving us the chief's email about removing the sign, but would you mind sending me or forward me any emails that you've had in the correspondence as well since that time period? Thank you so much

I'll call the bluff and second the motion. So we have a motion, we have a second. For the record, repeat the terms of the motion.

Okay, terms are the motion. The manager will determine whether the current left-handed restriction at 86 and second can be removed, and if it can be removed, proceed with it. But if it is determined that the restriction serves a legitimate purpose, such as school-related activity, peak traffic conditions, et cetera, then I would move that the manager coordinate with the appropriate agencies to modify the restrictions to work with those agencies so that it's not a 24 hour per day sign.

All right, so that's the motion and that's the second. Before we get to that, let me just say something really quickly. I'm not against this necessarily being on the agenda. So when, Councilperson Winters, so you guys know, the mayor sets the agenda, right? And as I said, I work on it with the clerk. And so last Tuesday, which is, I'm kind of happy we got to this point in a way because it brings more clarity to me. Last Tuesday when this was first brought up, in my return email, I said, are we voting to decide whether we should get rid of the left turn or not? have we already received permissi

um that being said any other questions or comments from the council i have a little bit of a comment i do think making decisions like this is a tad bit irresponsible you do have to do your research and know the why behind it so that we can properly assess whether or not it is a safe thing to do proving a negative is difficult right we don't know how many accidents have been deterred or prevented By having that sign up, definitely I think it's persuasive to have the anecdotal evidence of individuals who live on that street and do a particular thing. We can take that into consideration. But for

Any other last questions or comments from the council before we go to a vote?

Do we have a prepared answer from either the mayor, the attorney or the manager as to whether or not the possibility of the front part of this motion would even be conceptually possible?

You mean if, if they say we can't remove it, the manager finds a way to remove it? The second part?

I guess specifically what I'm saying is hasn't there been requests in the past to the county in the state that we change a sign or remove a sign that was an immediate and absolute no without a absolute ridiculously bureaucratic process of dealing with that entity whether it be the county or the state

There has been, all right, so in the past, there has been times where we wanted to remove or place signs or put signs or change things up, and the county, a lot of times, is very strict sometimes about what they allow municipalities to do to their streets.

Let's discuss rules, not exceptions here.

THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A MOTION. WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO WE DO HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION. CAN ONE LAST TIME, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION, PLEASE, FOR US BEFORE WE GO?

YES. I'D LIKE THE MOTION TO DIRECT THE VILLAGE MANAGER To determine whether the current left-hand restriction on 86th Street and Northeast 2nd Avenue, this is the current sign that is going from west to east, because there's another one going from west to, I'm sorry, east to west, because there's another one on the other side between Miami Avenue 2nd. It also says no, right internally, and we're not talking about that one, so we're not confused. We're talking about the one inside Sherwood Forest.

I have a point of order. Can we have the motion as stated, please?

Yes, I would like to make a motion to direct the Village Manager to determine whether the current left turn restriction at Northeast 86th Street and Northeast 2nd Avenue can be removed, and if so, to proceed with its removal. If it is determined that the restriction serves a legitimate purpose, such as school-related activity or peak traffic conditions, and I would further move that the manager coordinate with the appropriate agencies to modify the restriction so that it is limited to those specific times rather than enforce 24 hours per day.

That's the motion. You have one last comment before we vote?

Yes, yeah, he seconded before. Yeah, Madam Clerk, we have a motion, we have a second. Can we please have a roll call, please?

um vice mayor martin no mayor nickerson no motion passes three to one i mean three to two okay all right let's move right along i think we're still premature when it comes to that uh that item you guys um because essentially we just passed that I don't even think we even spoke to the correct length of even if we felt like we wanted to do it. I think that right now what we just did, we just passed that if it can be done, that it's removed, which I guess is fine, but then if it can't be done, and there is a reasonable reason, then the manager has it adjust to that reason. So I'm assuming if they

all right all right you guys um moving on to the next item this is uh 205 northeast 86th street the building department and management uh mr pulliam this is can i have a public comment on just the previous item no we're closed on that okay so i need to say that for good and welfare there's no good in welfare at the end okay so i guess i'll bring it up next time Yeah, yeah, no problem. So this is 205 Northeast 86th Street. Mr. Pulliam, this is your address. You can just come up to the, yes, come up to the podium, please. And the floor is yours.

Point of order, hold on, point of order. Have we established that it's simply, I mean, like, do we know how long it would take to rectify the situation of having it be available on the screen, or do we know? Yeah, it's not, we were trying for like a half an hour.

It's not gonna work on the screen. Yeah, we tried. Unfortunately.

So it can't be viewed here in those chambers?

Okay, because my interest in asking was for the public benefit.

So usually to enter the video into the public record, things usually have to go through the clerk. Now, I guess what Attorney Geller is saying is that for a legal purpose, if the legal attorney of the village has not previewed it first, I guess, or previewed it yet, he doesn't think that it should be shown in a public forum because he hasn't yet reviewed it. That's what I'm getting from this.

So this second example, C, you received that after they gave you the A where nothing was marked?

So now they're saying you need a survey.

Just move on, because I'm not sure how we can share it.

Let me jump in, because maybe I can kind of help out a little bit. Okay, so I've seen the video, you all. Go ahead.

I understand, I understand, I understand. I'm not gonna talk through the video, but I'm gonna take some points from the video. I got you, my brother, don't worry about it. So, I've seen the video, and What you've noticed, not only in the video, but what I think is something that's been going on from the beginning of this situation is things get confusing because there's not only like a lack of communication, but it seems to be like a drip, drip, drip of information. and i'm going to bring mr martinez up in a second um also but so so just to kind of like quickly kind of summarize everything so

It was 66 until the phone call was made.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Mr. Pulliam. I'm going to bring up Mr. Martinez. If we need to bring you back up, we'll bring you back up, Mr. Pulliam. Okay, thank you. Mr. Martinez, is there anything that you want to say? Okay, come on.

Ms. Martinez, do not go back and forth with the resident.

So let me just ask something really quickly, and I'm gonna open it up to the council. It seems that the problem is, you wanna know if the wall is safe, right? So structural calculations that require engineer.

Understood, I appreciate that. I get complaints all the time from different residents about different building things and different code things all the time. So, but I mean, not for this particular issue. I'm gonna bring you back up in a second, Mr. Porter. Not for this particular issue, but I get complaints on a fairly consistent basis about different things. But I'm trying to get at where we go from here. So I understand the Bora situation. But our goal is for this thing to kind of be done with. Our goal is to figure out if it's safe or not. That's the goal, right? Whether it's Bora, whateve

So CAP government never uses CAP engineers to inspect? No. What do the CAP engineers, what do they use for?

So I understand what you're saying about conflict of interest, but if a separate CAP engineer that's not you, there's still a conflict.

All right, so this is how we're gonna do this. Councilperson Irvine's gonna speak, Mr. Pulliam's gonna come back up, and then we're gonna go to the audience, all right? We'll go to the residents, and then we'll come back to the council.

it's not entirely appropriate for you to do that but that's your choice now for every agenda item I like to open it up okay I'm gonna go to council person urban the only thing I was saying before is the only thing I continue to think is that there's only two choices right the two choices it seems it's coming out of this is the borer thing or to get an engineer to go out there and do the study but I just don't think the resident should be THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENGINEER AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I STAND AND THOSE THAT'S WHAT I SEE AS FAR AS THE TWO CHOICES COUNCIL COUNCILPERSON URBAN AND TH

Sure, thank you very much. Councilperson Erbom and then, thank you Mr. Martinez, then we'll bring Mr. Pulling up, then we're going to the residents.

Okay, I have one statement, three questions. I'll start a timer on myself and keep it to under three minutes here. All right, here we go. My statement is I am frustrated with the problematic reality of the potential of a permit that was approved that should not have been approved regarding the four feet versus six feet statement there. Now, my questions, firstly, HERE IN EXHIBIT A AS PRESENTED BY THE RESIDENT, FEBRUARY 25TH, EXTENSION REVOKED SINCE RESIDENT DID NOT SHOW UP TO BOARD MEETING ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2026. THAT'S THIS YEAR, FEBRUARY LATE. NOW, JUST A WEEK LATER, IT LOOKS LIKE, PERHAPS T

I have an answer to that. Okay, so in that example, the final agency action, the agency is the Village of El Portal? Yes. Okay, so. I have in front of me. In a technical sense it's the building department. I have in front of me exhibit A, I have in front of me exhibit B, and these are the exhibits that present essentially the basis for the failed inspection. My curiosity is with these being both dated June 23rd, meaning today, I would like to know if any representative of the agency, meaning either CAP government manager or attorney would know of a date prior to June 1st, which was the expirat

And where did you hear that from, I suppose, I guess, in my last question?

Is that accurate, sir? And then... June 30th, excuse me.

Okay. So I'm not sure if I'm happy with the answer, but I understand the answer. And then my final question before I allow Mr. Pulliam to make his points is, in the event of an otherwise erroneous approval, what, if any, remedy would there be Sorry, Madam Clerk, I just need to, sorry. So in the event of an erroneous approval of a permit, what, if any, remedy is there to revisit that permit? That is an overarching question that I have about this entire situation.

Have they made any demands of you to provide the engineering calculations?

Right. So my thought process on that is that, for example, with just take like the wood fence, right? Or just just fencing, right? Just traditional fence, right? So as I'm sitting here thinking about it, we have a, a number of styles, or specific designs, I should say not styling, but design offense, right? That match with county approved designs that allow for when to pass through so that the fence does not act as a sail in tropical storms and greater, right? And so one of the reasons that we don't have a requirement for engineering documents for say the wood fence is because there's already

That reminds me of one more question. So in Mr. Martinez's explanation of the fact that this is an owner-builder permit, meaning the owner is saying that they are the builder, my question, I guess, is did you build this wall?

I'm almost ready to make a motion. If anybody wants to make a motion, they probably should hurry up. I want to open up to the very soon. Yeah, I want to open up to it.

Before we do that, a really quick question. Go ahead. All right, so before you make a motion, I had one or two questions. Maybe one of you guys can answer this. Is there evidence that this is able to be an after the fact variance by the council or is that, because it was also an agenda item and it was published and noticed, right? If it's possible or if it's not, that's all.

Well, but a variance is not required. So by right he had, he's able to do the 25 feet back with the six foot. That's what we were told at the planning and zoning back then.

So a variance for an eight inch ornamental wall that's six feet tall.

Oh, you're saying... Can we clarify the record, though? Yeah. The original variance was approved for four-foot frontage.

It wasn't approved. And then it was... The original variance was approved for... It was denied.

The original variance for the frontage fence. I'm not talking about the...

It was denied. For the original variance, when he came, he wanted a four-foot coral wall at the regular setback.

It was not just the height of that cross line. It is the entire cross line that was an error in that permit approval?

Yeah. I'm ready to make a motion. Go ahead, Council Member. I just wanted to know. I'm going to open it up to you guys, the residents. Come up, first and last name and your address for the record. Three minutes, you guys.

I think we did all see that as we were discussing. Just announce the dates into the microphone so it can be on the record. I know that we did all. I have a chance to look at that while you're making your initial statements, but in the microphone.

you very much uh mr pulliam before you sit down um come back is anybody else we're good in welfare you guys good we good i mean public comment everybody we good okay all right so we're gonna close public comment for a second uh mr pulliam because i understand the concern about how this got here um Mr. Pulliam, just answer these questions for me, if you could, please. First of all, everybody understands that the mayor puts things on the agenda, right, so that's how I got here. Mr. Pulliam, even when we were at your house, Mr. Pulliam, when I spoke earlier and I gave the example about you guys,

Correct. So I just want to make the point that I think a lot of times, and this may be my fault, right, because I'm such an active mayor, but I think a lot of times people think as mayor I can make decisions the decision, right, and that comes here. I'm not a strong mayor, right? We have a manager form of government, so I can't make those decisions. As a matter of fact, I do everything I can. I mean, I even go to the line, sometimes over the line, trying to be as active as I possibly can, you guys, you know, but there's only so much I can do. And to make things move forward, once I get through

Yeah. It was a long time ago. So that's just the way our government is set up. And so there's just so much I can do before I have to go through other routes. And that's the reason why we're here.

Thank you very much. Let me just say this also. Thank you very much, Mr. Putnam. I appreciate it. I get all the calls, pretty much. I'm sure you guys get calls also. I get all the calls from residents with problems, inconsistencies, building department, code enforcement, this, that, this, that. I do as much as I can. And like I say, I go to the line, sometimes over the line. I do as much as I can myself when there is not other things being done through other routes, right? But you have to understand that the makeup of how our government is, and that's just kind of like the way it is. Anybody e

I just, you, how many emails did you send out that were not returned?

You would be fine waiting until September? Would that require an extension? Sorry? You just said you'd be fine waiting until September, but that requires extension, right?

I do have one question, if you can stick around. What is your position on going to BORA if the attorney and manager do work with you to make sure that you have what you feel is a final agency action that can be acted upon?

Thank you for letting me know your position on board. Yeah.

So is there any correspondence from Bora stating that that the email was insufficient as a final agency action?

all right i'd like i'd like to make a motion if i may okay let me make a motion yeah yeah we're going to do we're going to do that in a second um we want to make sure that the motion we can like legally make it i'm not sure what attorney gill is going to say about that so we want to make sure we're that because i heard a lot of legal stuff going on today um just want to say for the record you guys that uh as far as signing off on things and this may be something that the manager cannot sign off on but managers do have administrative approvals and administrative adjustments. Manager Alou used t

What do you want me to do? So like I said, I always go to the line, sometimes over the line, but I'm trying to do everything I can do, but I can only do so much. Back to the council, we have, in my opinion, we have two, pathways right we have the the bora and we have the engineer structural calculations getting the engineer to come in there as i said before personally i don't believe that the resident should have to pay for an engineer to do that but that's what i see are the two pathways that we have i'm opening up to you guys

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. I AM OBVIOUSLY OPEN TO AMENDMENTS. I'M NOT A LAWYER. I WILL TRY TO USE AS EXACT LANGUAGE AS POSSIBLE. HERE WE GO. I MOVE TO TEMPORARILY INDEMNIFY THE RESIDENT FROM ACTION REGARDING HIS PROPERTY AS IS UNTIL JULY 28TH AT THE GENERAL COUNCIL MEETING FOR JULY OF THE VILLAGE OF VILLE PORTAL AT WHICH TIME THE MANAGER WOULD PRESENT A REPORT TO THE COUNCIL BASED ON COLLABORATION WITH THE ATTORNEY AND OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL TO INFORM THE COUNCIL WHETHER OR NOT A SOLUTION HAS BEEN ARRIVED AT THROUGH THE BORA PROCESS OR WHAT ACTION THE MANAGER IS RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL BAS

One of you guys, will you guys make a motion?

We have an item ahead of us. I'll move to extend the meeting 30 minutes.

I'll second it. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed say nay. Hearing none. Next agenda item.

So the next agenda item is about an initiative I'm trying to put together as a neighborhood work together. I'm addressing in this agenda item a known hazardous condition in a practical and timely manner. These are called fatigue cracks. You see them all throughout El Portal. And the fatigue cracking present is right now, I'd like to try a proof of concept in one location. So this is not resurfacing. This is not reconstruction. This is not pot over here. I'm not doing any recommendation for anything structural, something that will affect our, we're talking about limited crack filling in the wal

Thank you very much, I'm gonna let you guys jump in a second. The first thing is, so everybody understands, Northeast 2nd and North Miami Avenue are state-controlled. Everything else is county-controlled. There's nothing that's elk or towel-controlled, right? So, go ahead, Attorney Geller.

I just want to repeat the first exact sentence I said is that this is throughout El Portal. I'm trying to prove a concept in Sherwood Forest. Everyone here has cracks all throughout the streets. It's all over El Portal. I can't provide with my discretionary fund to fix the streets with this, though it's an inexpensive way to do it. But luckily I am not a building expert. We have one here today. Pedro Martinez is here and he knows a little bit about the substance, which in my opinion is foolproof, but maybe Pedro can come to the stand and tell everyone what he knows about the perma patch and ba

Pedro, would you spread any of your knowledge you might have on it?

I just want to fix the roads. I know it's very expensive. And Sherwood, of course, is a little thing. But all of El Portal needs it. And I'm trying to do my little part, which I appreciate you both working towards getting it done. even if it goes around me and you don't use my volunteers, fine, but it is something that we need to address.

Yeah, I just know it's much more unsafe right now than it would be after it's done.

Thank you. Lastly, the earlier on the record email from Ron Nelson, Department of Transportation and Public Works, specifically noted that 86th Street is city maintained. It's on the map down here.

So whenever we do anything on the streets, like for example, we do something like that, we have to go through the county. If we do something on Northeast 2nd or North Miami Avenue, it's F dot Florida Department of Transportation, state. It's just the way it is. So it could be city, whatever, it could be whatever it is, you do something on the street, if it's city whatever, that would mean that if there's a stop sign right here that doesn't touch the Northeast 2nd or North Miami Avenue, you can remove the stop sign. You can't just remove a stop sign. If you wanna put a stop sign, you can't just

Mayor, this is regarding this item. Mayor, I understand. Mayor, the proper motion

So the only thing I would say is this. I would say that we should make a motion to gather the information on it and then come back to the council to vote on it. There's a lot of things we have to decide on. For example, since, when did I first send this out? What is this, January? Since January, I've gotten our engineer to do all the specs and everything to fix that road that's over there by Shorewood Forest Park, where the street is actually disappearing. That needs to be fixed also. So Elbertown, unfortunately, we don't have the big budget, everybody else does, so we have to decide where we'

I would like to pay two cents for 45 seconds of your time.

Okay, this is my 45 second take on the flyer here.

One, one of the committees we used to have was Public Works. If we bring back a committee structure that encompasses those actions, we'd be able to address this in a Public Works committee in an organized discussion. Two, Permapatch is a plastics product. I will not support any plastics products whatsoever for the rest of all of human history. F plastics and every form of it for life. In the special needs community, they say God doesn't give you more than you can handle, but guess who does? Dow Chemical Company, DuPont Chemical Company, ExxonMobil, Bayer, Monsanto. There are people who give yo

All right, thank you very much. Anybody else from the council? I'm gonna go up to you guys in a second. All right, let me open it up to you guys really quickly for this particular item.

Anyway, amen. Anyone else good in welfare for this particular item? Going once, going twice, back to the council. Okay, so Attorney Geller made a suggestion, which is they go, they gather all the information, and get everything ready to bring back to us at another meeting, whether it's public safety or whether it's, I mean, whether it's Public Works or whether it's a council meeting. We'll decide that later. But is that a motion someone wants to make?

Before we do that, a few things. I did mention that this is a problem all throughout Opertel, and I said short force was going to be a proof of concept. I was not at all trying to focus there. I said that multiple times. Second is, it's late. I forgot what I was going to say, but the main thing is, I want to make sure that we can make that motion that the attorney recommended that we put a specific date on it so that it just doesn't hang in limbo until next year. Like if we're going to do it, you know, let's do all the research and bring it back in July. Obviously we have no actual things goin

Do you guys feel like staff, that July is enough time to gather all information? Do you feel like it's July or do you want to wait until September? I mean, we can do a special meeting another time, like if it comes down to it. We can have a special meeting in August or something if we need to. Yeah, I'm just saying what you think y'all's capability is. Okay. Okay.

All right. So, so we have a motion to bring back all the necessary information to make a decision on moving forward with this or not. By the July council meeting. All right, somebody want to say yes to that?

I'll make the motion. I just don't know how to repeat it all.

We're good. We're gonna make a motion to that and then we have a second. I'll second. All right, so motion by Councilperson Winters, second by Councilperson Erbom. Madam Clerk, may I please have a roll call, please?

So I remember my last comment was while we're waiting for her. The actual thing that got passed out tonight was my personal proof of concept to the manager. I did not mean to have ChatGPT put Libertarian Party on it. If I had something passed out to the residents, it wouldn't say that. But it was something that obviously slipped through the cracks as it was showing the manager how the process worked.

I don't take issue with Libertarian Party being on it. It's the word independent with a political party. It's oxymoron. Yeah.

She's here. All right. She's coming. She's coming.

All right. Very good. Councilperson Lightfoot Ward. Oh, my Lord. If you guys look there, you see my manager, my mayor's report. If you have any questions, contact me. Attorney Geller? Attorney Geller, do you have a – Attorney Geller, is there an attorney report?

We'll do that in another meeting just because to vote on it, it should probably be on the agenda in some form. All right, Mr. Manager, Mr. Manager, do you have anything you want to say as far as a report, are you good? I'm good. Okay, thank you very much. Do I have a motion to adjourn? All right, motion moved by Councilperson Erbaum, second by Councilperson Winters. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed say nay, hearing none. The council meeting for Tuesday, June 23rd is adjourned at 11.37 p.m.