City Council - Regular Meeting

Thursday, August 13, 2026Official site

The City Council held an emotional ceremony proclaiming "Rhyen Simon Valdez Day" and celebrated the first anniversary of Broadway Parque. A proposed Tobacco Retailer's License ordinance was postponed for further discussion and potential amendments after extensive public comment and council debate. Council President Esparza also provided an update on the status of the Measure C renewal and related lawsuits.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Fresno, CA
Meeting Date
August 13, 2026

Published excerpts

Only published remarks appear here. The full transcript is not published.

106 sections (from 108 segments)

12:51•Nelson Esparza

All right, good morning. Welcome to today's council meeting. We'll go ahead and call the meeting to order here at 9.06 a.m. Clerk, would you please call the roll?

13:22 – 13:44•Nelson Esparza

Okay, fantastic. So next is the invocation followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. I will ask everyone to please stand if they can. And our invocation this morning is gonna be by Sherry Knott, who's Minister of Women over at St. Russ Baptist Church. Welcome. After invocation, I'll ask everybody to remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

16:44 – 17:13•Nelson Esparza

Council Member Perea, would you please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance? All right, move on to approval of the agenda. City Clerk, are there any announcements, changes, or items already removed from the agenda?

19:32•Nelson Esparza

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, CITY CLERK. ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES, COUNCIL, COUNCILMEMBER PREYA? COUNCILMEMBER RODRIGUEZ?

19:40 – 20:02•Miguel Arias

COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I JUST HAVE ONE DISCLOSURE OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION TO JAY AS IN JACK. I AM DISCLOSING THAT I'M CURRENTLY SUPPOSED TO START SERVING ON THE BOARD OF THE Fresno Clovis Convention and Visitors Bureau, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN WHICH THERE IS NO COMPENSATION TO ME OR THE CITY FOR. All right, thank you.

20:02 – 20:24•Nelson Esparza

Council Vice President? Council Member Vang? Council Member Richardson? None. Okay, all right. I will entertain a motion for approval of the agenda. So moved. First, second, third, and fourth. Is there any opposition to approving the agenda? Seeing none, that passes. Okay.

20:27 – 20:54•Nelson Esparza

Thank you. So we'll move on to the ceremonial presentations. We have a couple now this morning. We had one tabled. Our first proclamation is sponsored by Council Vice President Maxwell and Council Member Richardson. This is a proclamation for Ryan Simon Valdez Day.

20:54•Tyler Maxwell

If I could please have the Valdez family join us at the front and any friends and family that want to join us as well.

21:49 – 23:18•Tyler Maxwell

wherever you have maybe . Well, good morning everybody. This is a proclamation that I deliver with a heavy heart this morning. It is not one I've been looking forward to delivering, but it is one I am honored to present because we are honoring the legacy of an extraordinary young man, Ryan Simon Valdez, who unfortunately was taken from us too soon earlier this year, a day before graduating Fresno State with a degree in history. Over the past several months I have learned so many incredible things about this young man from his service to our country, to his interest in sports, to his activity o

23:23 – 24:48•Nick Richardson

Not going to take long. The only thing I'd like to say is you learn after some time in the military that there's no such thing as an end. Inside our own minds, we kind of deceive ourselves and we convince ourselves there's such thing as the end or the finality of something. And really, that's not true. When you first had your first kid, that wasn't the end of your life as a parentless person. That was the beginning of your life as a parent. Things that we see as the end really aren't. So it's going to take a lot. I know I can't imagine what the family's going through, but I want you to be able

24:51•Tyler Maxwell

Anybody want to share a story about Ryan? Anybody from the family want to share a memory? Say a few words.

28:50 – 29:21•Tyler Maxwell

Ryan was a devout Catholic. He was a family man. He loved to travel. I saw pictures of him going to Ireland and Prague, living his best life, going to the aquarium. He loved Pokemon. He loved anime. He loved Disneyland and Harry Potter. And the stink raiders, your words, not mine. But he lived a very full life. And as unfortunate that he can't be here with us today, I do know that he is watching over us and that I feel his love in this room with us today.

29:24•Tyler Maxwell

Talk about an experience or a memory with Ryan?

32:15•Nelson Esparza

So thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak.

34:43 – 35:17•Tyler Maxwell

Thank you for your son's service to our country. And may God continue to watch over his soul. Now therefore be it resolved that we, Mayor Jerry P. Dyer and the Fresno City Council do hereby proclaim Thursday, August 13th, 2026 as Ryan Simon Valdez Day here in the city of Fresno. Thank you. And I did want to invite Dean Stevenson to give a presentation to the family at this time.

37:03•Tyler Maxwell

Thank you. City Clerk, would you please read the proclamation into the record?

40:32 – 40:55•Nelson Esparza

Thank you, Council Vice President, Council Member Richardson, as well as the family, very heartwarming presentation. Our second and last proclamation for this morning is gonna be presented by Council Member Radius, and that is a proclamation celebrating Broadway Park and the South Tower Community Land Trust.

41:23•Miguel Arias

Hey guys, come on up. Council President, Council Vice President reminded me that it's Broadway Parque. Parque.

41:31•Nelson Esparza

Parque. Is that how you spell it in Spanish? Yes. Parque.

41:34 – 44:48•Miguel Arias

Parque. I love that. Parque. Okay. See, I appreciate the Latino influence you now have, Council Vice President. Thank you. Thank you all for coming today. I just wanted to take a moment to recognize the one-year anniversary of Broadway Parque and the history. I think part of this work that we do in the city is that we have to continuously tell the authentic history of how we got to certain places and make sure the recognition is there for everyone who helped along the way, as well as to maintain the engagement of the public. In this case, Broadway Parque has a long history. One that included a

46:59 – 47:30•Miguel Arias

Thank you, Kyle, and thank all of you for the time and the commitment. I'm constantly reminded that we are simply temporary caretakers of our city, government, and it is residents who are the permanent stakeholders of our neighborhoods and our communities. So thank you for playing your critical role. I love the fact that Tower has some of the most engaged residents, and you always tend to re-correct us when we go off basis. So keep up the good work, even at times it feels like you have to knock us over the head a few times. So it's all well worth it and appreciated. City Clerk?

47:31 – 47:54•Annalisa Perea

Council Member before the City Clerk reads the proclamation. Kyle, I think it was about 10 years ago where we designed a banner and put it up at the Broadway Parque location. And it said, call your council member and start advocating for a new park. And we canvassed the neighborhood. And so it's really cool just to kind of see you specifically carry forward the mission and see it through fruition. So great work.

47:55 – 48:21•Miguel Arias

everyone i i just a closing comment as we're talking about the authentic history i forgot to mention candidate annalisa prayer was part of the work early on she was also part of the work of saving and preserving the tower theater and a lot of other good work and now initiator of a neighborhood library in tower so thank you for your work we expect to get us some money to take next year

50:40 – 50:57•Nelson Esparza

All right, fantastic. I'm gonna move on to council member reports and comments. Council member Perea. Council member, I'll skip over him. Council vice president, do you have any comments? Council member Ving.

51:01 – 52:00•Brandon Vang

Thank you very much, council president. D5 just completed our second annual backpack giveaways at Jackson Elementary and Sequoia Middle School this last week. We were able to provide free school supplies, haircuts, and health screenings for our students. I want to thank our sponsors who make these events possible. PG&E, Producers Dairy, Anthem Blue Cross Community Health System, Mid Valley Disposal, Legacy Construction, Vista Consulting, Central Valley Community Foundation, United Health Centers, Ironworkers, Local 155, and Target. And thank you to our community partners, Big Brothers, Big Sis

52:03 – 52:25•Miguel Arias

Council Member Arias, circle back to you. Thank you, Council President. Just one announcement. The deadline to register to be a food vendor or a vendor in general for the annual Downtown Fresno Fiestas Patias is tomorrow, August 14th. So please go ahead and register if you want to be a vendor for the festivities. That's all, Council President. Council Member Richardson.

52:27 – 53:10•Nick Richardson

Yep, keep it quick. It's a beautiful day in District 6. We, on August 3rd, celebrated the grand opening of UCP+. If you're not familiar with UCP+, it used to be United Cerebral Palsy, and now they've expanded their services to extend to a large community of varying ability levels that teaches life skills like cooking and, you know, taking care of clothing and balancing a checkbook and things like that. And just seeing the family and the people that are affected by this sort of resource in the city was a... It was a... Very emotional experience. So next time you're driving by the northeast corn

53:12 – 57:18•Nelson Esparza

Thank you, Councilman Richardson. That's everybody except for myself. I first off want to thank everyone who came out to our eighth and final Beat the Heat event at Romaine Park last night. It was incredible to have over 1,000 attendees enjoying one last summer celebration before school starts here next week. A huge thank you to our community partners who made it possible, from the nonprofits who attended to the Fresno Police Department and their cadets for helping, Fresno Fire Department, and one of my favorite taco shops, El Premio Mayor, for keeping everyone fed. And most of all, thank you

57:18•Nick Richardson

Council President, real quick, do you have a time for that Beautify Fresno event tomorrow or Saturday?

57:22 – 57:35•Nelson Esparza

Saturday, it typically is 9 a.m. I'll double check, but especially in the summer times, it may get bummed down to 8.30 because of the heat, but I'll double check that and get back to you. City Manager, any comments?

57:38 – 59:42•Nelson Esparza

Okay, sounds good. All right, we'll move on to our agenda. We will go ahead and take, at this point, we don't have any timed items. Those have all been punted or rescheduled, it looks like, from my side here. So we'll move on to the consent agenda. Before we vote on that, obviously we have some items pulled, but we're going to take public comments on any item that's on the consent agenda or the contested consent or the closed session agenda as well. So now would be the opportunity to be able to speak. COMMENT. I DO HAVE SOME CARDS, AND AGAIN, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, WE'RE DOING PUB

1:01:17•Nelson Esparza

Thank you. Next card I have is going to be for Bill Bunnell.

1:04:33•Nelson Esparza

Thank you, Bill. Next speaker I have is going to be Daniel Gonzalez.

1:06:54•Nelson Esparza

Thank you. Next speaker is going to be Andy Chikara. Welcome, you have three minutes.

1:09:35•Nelson Esparza

Our next speaker we have is Balwinder Singh.

1:11:30•Nelson Esparza

Thank you. Next card is going to be for Baolia Xiong.

1:13:50 – 1:14:04•Nelson Esparza

Thank you. Next speaker is going to be Jasmine. And as a reminder, we're currently doing public comment for any item that was on the consent agenda, contested consent or closed session agenda.

1:15:58•Nelson Esparza

Next speaker is going to be Sukbir Bandal.

1:19:39 – 1:19:53•Nelson Esparza

Thank you. A city attorney, someone from code enforcement could briefly advise my question. Yeah, we have to move on to the meeting. Thank you. Next speaker is going to be David Rios.

1:21:00 – 1:22:06•Nelson Esparza

Thank you. I don't have any more yellow cards, but I do have some folks on Zoom queued up to speak. Again, as a reminder to the public, we're on the portion of public comment with respect to anything on the consent agenda or the contested consent agenda or a closed session. So if you're in the chamber and would like to speak, go ahead and bring up a yellow card. Meanwhile, we're going to go over to some of the Zoom speakers. First up, we have Joseph Rodriguez. Hello. Yes. Welcome, Joseph. You have three minutes. Joseph, you have to unmute yourself. We're on public comment for the consent agend

1:24:44 – 1:24:57•Nelson Esparza

Next speaker on Zoom is going to be Brian Lam. Hello, can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Welcome, you have three minutes.

1:26:40•Nelson Esparza

All right, thank you. Next speaker is going to be Julio Lopez on Zoom.

1:28:09•Nelson Esparza

All right, next speaker on Zoom is going to be Lisa Flores.

1:28:19•Nelson Esparza

Yes, Lisa, welcome. You have three minutes.

1:29:48•Nelson Esparza

Lisa, we're on public comment related to the consent agenda, contested consent, or closed session. So please keep your comments directed in that direction.

1:30:38 – 1:31:12•Nelson Esparza

Thank you, Lisa. I don't have any other speakers punched up on Zoom. I don't have any other yellow cards or any additional public comment on consent, contested consent or the closed session agenda. Seeing none, would enclose public comments. And I'll come back up to the council. I'll entertain a motion for approval of the consent agenda. Motion? I'll second that. Any opposition to approving the balance of the consent agenda? Seeing none, that passes. Any question?

1:31:13 – 1:31:36•Nelson Esparza

All right, seeing none, that passes five to zero. I think, yeah, five, zero. All right, it looks like at this point we've got the contested consent agenda. Clerk, remind me which items we have on the contested consent?

1:31:50•Nick Richardson

All right, let's. Sorry, was P added back to consent? Was P moved? I still have that as pulled from consent to contest. P, I believe, was removed.

1:32:01•Nelson Esparza

Yeah. So let's see, we'll move on to item 2H here. And Council Member Richardson, you pulled this?

1:32:15 – 1:32:30•Nick Richardson

Yes, I did. Santino? No. Thanks for coming up here. Can you give us in the public just a little background on what this is talking about and the necessity for it?

1:32:57•Nick Richardson

Okay, so this time next year we will not be seeing this come back given the expiration of Measure C, is that correct?

1:33:08•Nick Richardson

Regardless of if anything comes back to us like this, it won't say measure C on it because measure C doesn't. That's correct, yes. Okay, that's all I had. Okay. Yeah, motion to approve.

1:33:17 – 1:33:44•Nelson Esparza

We have a motion and a second. Is there any opposition to approving item 2H? Seeing none, that passes four to zero. Yeah, four to zero. All right. Item 2M, also pulled by Council Member Richardson. Director Horn here.

1:33:46 – 1:34:09•Nick Richardson

All right. Director Barr, good morning. Good morning. How are you? Not too bad. Just speak real quick, if you don't mind. to Owens Mountain and how Owens Mountain, as a retran site or otherwise, is able to augment the city's communication capabilities. It seems like it's a little out there.

1:34:27•Nick Richardson

Okay, so is it actively used by the city as a retrans? Is that the purpose it's serving up there? Is it a retrans site? Is it an amplifier? Is it connecting us with outside agencies? Or is it internal to internal?

1:35:53•Nick Richardson

Location, location, location. Okay, I appreciate that. With that, Council President, motion to approve to Mike.

1:36:01 – 1:36:18•Miguel Arias

President, I do have one question for IT on this item. My apologies. Director, why aren't we securing our own facility? if it's mission critical to the infrastructure? Why are we leasing private space?

1:36:39•Miguel Arias

But my question is, why aren't we acquiring property at 1,000 feet? and having our own facility versus leasing private facilities?

1:37:23 – 1:38:04•Nelson Esparza

All right, we have a motion, we have a second. Is there any opposition to approving item 2M? M as in Mary? Seeing none, that passes five to zero. All right, on contested consent, we're going over to item 2Z, tobacco retail license. This item is sponsored by myself, Council Member Karbasi, and Council Member, Council Vice President Maxwell. It was pulled by Council Member Richardson. Council Member, I'll let you have the floor. Would the sponsors like to speak on it first? No, we had this discussion last week, so we'll hand it over to you for now.

1:38:05 – 1:38:55•Nick Richardson

Okay. Looking through, so I know that when we had the discussions about the smoke shops last year, and we also heard this echoed today from the audience, there's nothing in this ordinance that speaks to proximity from sensitive locations. Is that on purpose? Is that something that maybe we'd be open to an amendment to discuss? That's one of the things I'd like to talk about. I think that even the representatives here from their respective industries have spoken about being in favor of some sort of distance from schools and other sensitive areas. I think that would be something responsible to a

1:39:46 – 1:41:17•Nick Richardson

Okay, so when it talks about the applicability and the issuance of the license, that distance is something that, because we already have the TRO, would be taken into account along with everything else that's on page 11? Yes. Okay, copy that, thank you. I know it was brought up and I received from the public some, hey, kind of requests, would you consider this? Would you consider that when it comes to TRL? And I'll be honest, not all of them did I agree with. Some of them I think were worded differently, but I do think there's some opportunity there for what we get paid to do, which is kind of

1:41:20 – 1:41:38•Nick Richardson

when they're levied upon whoever we investigated. So say you go, you bust some business because they're, you know, selling vodka to kindergartners or whatever. When you go in there and you bust them for whatever the violation is, all of our investigative fees, all of our legal fees, if there's a legal challenge, whatever else, those costs are then imposed upon that entity we investigated.

1:42:16 – 1:42:39•Nick Richardson

Yes, it does. I'm worried about the other direction. This is why I'm leading this this way. What happens in the instance that something is pursued or investigated or whatever else, and it's determined that whatever is being sold, that there's an issue, right, or there's a mistake in the course of enforcement and investigation, Is there any sort of recourse that the entity can take to recover those costs from the city for legal fees or what have you?

1:42:57•Nick Richardson

Okay, so in the instance, they could waive the violation potentially, but whatever cost they expended to pursue that appeal, they're not going to recover that.

1:43:35 – 1:47:17•Nick Richardson

Okay. And then, thank you. That's all I had on that specific line of questioning. For the authors, I'm... I appreciate Section 9, TAC 3809. It's on page 14 if you have your copy. I think that in part of it, we're not quite strict enough, and I'd like to see it potentially be stricter. And in another portion of it, we are too strict, and I think it doesn't necessarily need to be that strict. And I don't know if any authors are following, but here's what I'm talking about. Section 3809 on page 14 talks about the sale and transfer of the permit and or the business. So if you join me on page 14, i

1:47:47 – 1:53:47•Nick Richardson

Okay, and I have reasonable suspicion that it is because I've seen this used in different industries as well as far as excise taxes go. Next point I have is if there's any interest in limiting this to actually who we're targeting, to the shops that, call it what it is. We need the tobacco retail license because we as a city don't have any licensure that we can remove from a bad act or breaking rules. It's important. And those who vend alcohol, whether it's a bar or it's a liquor store, they operate on the same thing with ABC. I know because we get all their ABC licenses and applications in my

1:54:13 – 1:54:51•Nick Richardson

Yeah, when they were forced to bridge the gap between the private business owner, pass the city, pass the county, all the way up to the state, totally. If we're going to institute this as a city, which I think is responsible, I wouldn't mind kind of reinforcing that communication, right? Call this our own little Owens Mountain Parkway tower, reinforcing that communication to the business owner to make sure they have the up-to-date gouge on what they can and can't sell. That would be it. That's the entirety of my amendments. If those are found as substantive, I would be interested in coming bac

1:55:22 – 1:57:16•Nelson Esparza

All right, thank you, Council Member Richardson. You know, I'm open to a conversation on some of these. I was taking notes as you were going through Maybe half of them I'd be open. You know, if you read the language of the TRL, we don't address the radius or the sensitive use areas. I think we have addressed those at length in other pieces of legislation, and we really wanted to keep this one fairly narrow, right? We're not really... applying a new set of laws to follow per se. We're implementing a sustainable enforcement mechanism of existing laws, whether that be our own local ordinances or

1:58:54•Nelson Esparza

No, I mean, I was, yeah, I mean, I think you answered the question about whether we're, you know, enforcing on tobacco currently. And again, with respect to how sustainable that might be and where the funding is coming from right now. Yes.

1:59:48 – 2:01:07•Nelson Esparza

Thank you. Appreciate that. Councilmember, with respect to the transfer business, I would like to hear some of the legal counsel offline where appropriate. And then with respect to the delineation between the kind of administrative and code issues versus issues more related to the actual violations of sale, I'm open to that conversation. I would say, generally speaking, again, there's some decent ideas here. I think what I would want to do today, if it was the will of the council, is press forward with an approval, and then maybe if you wanted to author some amendments, put some pen to paper,

2:01:09 – 2:04:25•Miguel Arias

This is where I love to geek out because we're a legislative body and this is kind of our primary function. So a couple of things I wanted to just provide input on as some of the amendments have been suggested. First and foremost, I did just now receive the email you guys sent yesterday at 4.30. I think if you pay attention to news, we were all busy at 4.30 yesterday. So I just read it on the dais now and reviewed the proposed amendments. I HAVE SOME REACTION TO SOME OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, BUT I WANT TO START OFF WITH COUNCILMEMBER RICHARDSON'S, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTIONS. ONE IS I'M VERY HESI

2:06:23 – 2:06:36•Miguel Arias

Director, back to my initial question. What retailer have we revoked their CUP based on alcohol issues or tobacco issues? Have we revoked any retailer CUP?

2:06:40 – 2:06:52•Miguel Arias

Okay. My second question is in terms of CUPs. do we still have a significant amount of businesses that do not have a CUP because they were grandfathered into the city?

2:06:56•Miguel Arias

Convenience stores, retail stores, liquor stores. I know we have several dozens.

2:07:39•Miguel Arias

But those that were grandfathered in do not have a CUP for us to revoke.

2:07:59 – 2:10:16•Miguel Arias

Got it. The other recommendation was a mandatory Retailer Education Opportunity to Cure amendment. Doesn't the state law require businesses to already do some level of training to the employees when they sell alcohol or tobacco? Isn't that already a requirement? So that exists already. So there's, in my view, there's no need to mandate a thing, because it's already a condition of your operations of a business. In terms of, the other one was centralizing court enforcement, which I think there are recommendations that they should be under the mayor's office. And the answer is absolutely no. Mayo

2:10:30 – 2:11:25•Miguel Arias

So in this case, the first find is $250, correct? We can levy up to $250 fine, yes. I think it reads the first one is $250, the second one is $500, the third one is $1,000 in the same year. So walk this through me, city attorney. You find somebody on Monday. Do you then put them on Monday as a business out of compliance and therefore their license at risk? Or do you give them time to cure the issue and to pay the fine? We educate and give them time to cure the issue. 14 days, Erica? 18 days. So right now our current practice is that we give somebody 18 days to cure the violation. So they at le

2:11:50 – 2:12:18•Miguel Arias

And then there's a request for us to remove that each day is a separate violation. So if I'm understanding this, if somebody is selling illegal tobacco on Monday, that's a fine. If we go back on Tuesday, then still selling it, that's another fine. If we go back on Wednesday and they're still selling it, that's another fine. Correct. and so what they're proposing is let the one fine just be the one fine and don't attach each day as a new fine. Is that?

2:12:20 – 2:12:59•Miguel Arias

That's how I'm reading it. And keep in mind, gentlemen in the audience, this is just my layman's term reading of it now. Again, I just got it on the dais an hour ago. There'll be plenty of time for me to ask you guys questions, but I'm trying to think this out loud because this is part of the legislative process. the reciprocal recovery of legal fees and investigation costs. What's the current process if somebody gets fined by the city and it goes to the hearing officer? The hearing officer can waive all fees or fines that were imposed by the city, the hearing officer finds that we were in err

2:13:07•Miguel Arias

Even if he finds that our fine was in error?

2:13:24•Miguel Arias

Correct. But if we were in error, he has the ability to waive all fines.

2:13:35•Miguel Arias

And the dismissal would essentially waive the fines.

2:13:51•Miguel Arias

So let me ask you this. Is there another vehicle where somebody can litigate us, they win, and they recover all legal fees?

2:14:09•Miguel Arias

So there's already a vehicle for them to recover legal fees if our error is of such magnitude that a court would fine in their favor.

2:14:19 – 2:14:55•Nick Richardson

Council Member Harris, I don't want to cut you off or correct you, but the last item, I read that differently, and I don't know if that factors in at all. I read it not as a reinstitution or an upping of the fine for every inspection, but as that being fine, what they were worried about is, hey, inspector comes on Monday, there's a violation, inspector comes the following Monday, Instead of that being the single upping of the fine, if you will, them instituting every single day in between those days as an increase in the fine. Every day, not every inspection. That was a distinction made when I

2:14:55 – 2:15:17•Miguel Arias

So I'm glad to point that out. How does it work now, city attorney? If we play out his scenario, you inspect it on Monday, you find them. you come back 10 days later, you find the same violation. Is that a new fine or do you tack on a fine for each state in which they failed to correct their violation?

2:15:48 – 2:16:15•Miguel Arias

It's a new fine because it's a new violation. Got it. But you're not going back and saying, we're going to retroactively fine you for the 10 days each day being a new fine. It would just be an additional fine. So if they were selling illegal products on Monday, you come back 10 days later, they're selling a new batch of legal products that use the previous ones. You go from a $250 fine to a $500 fine 10 days later?

2:16:27 – 2:18:28•Miguel Arias

Thank you for the clarification. A sell-through period for newly prohibited products. I struggle with that provision, and I don't think that I'm going to be supportive of it. I recognize that laws change, but whenever a new law goes in effect in the state of California, it's usually for the new calendar year, and we all know months in advance what is expected from everyone in the new calendar year. I wouldn't want to have a fire sale at every retailer of illegal products and give them a waiver, even though they're technically illegal at the time of the fire sale. The quarterly reports, of cour

2:20:43 – 2:21:00•Miguel Arias

In this body, each of us spends days and months working on a piece of policy while the rest of us get to see it when it gets published. And this is our opportunity to ask questions. So I'll be respectful of the authors and defer to them if they think more time is warranted or whether they want to proceed with today.

2:21:05 – 2:22:11•Annalisa Perea

Thank you, Council President. I'll keep my remarks brief. I just want to thank APCA for your comments today and the email you sent in and thank the kiddos, some of our youngest residents who took the time to come out and advocate for their community. I'm looking at you guys over there. Just want to thank you for stepping up and speaking good truth to strengthening and protecting our neighborhoods. That's much appreciated. You know, I think there were some good questions and suggested changes that were mentioned by Councilmember Richardson, and I'm definitely open to seeing if we can work colla

2:22:15 – 2:24:34•Brandon Vang

WERE YOU ADDRESSED ALREADY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER VANG. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO PROVIDED COMMENTS IN PERSON AND ONLINE. And I am appreciative of both sides having their opinion here. And my conclusion is we are very close to having 100% agreement on this. As one gentleman stated earlier, it's 90% agreement of what this legislation has. As stated earlier, this is the second reading of this legislation. The first one was the last time we had council meeting here. And that was an opportunity for us to ask questions and a

2:25:36•Brandon Vang

Thank you, sir. I think you answered my question. May I please?

2:26:13 – 2:26:46•Brandon Vang

I'm open to perhaps having even a third reading. As the city attorney mentioned, if the amendments by my colleague from D6 is considered, it's going to be a material change to this legislation. And so to hear what the legal ramification is, if that is the case, then we may have to have a third hearing on this. But again, I'm appreciative of the authors bringing this forward to this body to consider voting on this. Thank you. That's all I have, Council President. Thank you.

2:26:49 – 2:27:31•Miguel Arias

Council President, just wanted to make a final point. I know one of the authors is not here today. instead of maybe taking substantial changes that I, at this point, I'm not willing to be supportive of substantial changes because I haven't had time to talk to a legal counsel about what all the implications are. So I would just, as a friendly request, maybe request that we bring this back at the next meeting when the third author is here, or at least we have time to discuss the potential substantial changes with legal counsel so that we don't maybe create some unintended consequences that the a

2:27:32•Tyler Maxwell

I'll make a motion to continue this to the next scheduled council meeting.

2:27:56 – 2:29:41•Nelson Esparza

I'll give you a minute to clarify. But while you do that, I'll just make a few last comments discussion here. I appreciate everybody who came out today to comment, whether you were at the coalition or whether you were at APCA. You know, between myself and my office, we've had a chance to meet with all of these advocacy groups in one format or the other. It's interesting kind of the range of where the interested groups and interested parties are all landing. I've got one group who wants to pull this one direction, another group who wants to pull it the other direction, and then a small handful

2:29:50 – 2:30:25•Nelson Esparza

Correct, yeah. Yeah, that sounds about right. Okay. Well, we will see where this goes here in the next several weeks, but right now, motion is to table this item to the next regularly scheduled meeting. Any opposition? All right. That is tabled. Thank you all for attending this morning. Um, city attorney, uh, we have, uh, you said one or two kind of time sensitive items with some of the attorneys.

2:30:29 – 2:30:46•Nelson Esparza

Okay. Um, let's knock out the, those couple items. Um, I don't know if we'll make it back out here before lunch. Uh, that just depends how long these take. Um, but go ahead and please read off the closed session agenda.

2:31:44 – 2:32:05•Nelson Esparza

Thank you, City Attorney. If we don't make it up before 12, then for sure we will be here by 1.30. We'll come back. into open at that time, not closed. We'll round out the balance of open session at 1.30 at the latest. Understood, thank you. Yeah, thank you.

4:47:06 – 4:48:35•Nelson Esparza

All right, we're adjourning back into open session, looking at the... Agenda looks like our last open session business is gonna be unscheduled communication before we go back and finish out closed session. So I do have a number of cards, yellow cards here in person. Again, this is gonna be unscheduled communication so any topic is fine. I'll read off the cards here and folks can feel free to punch up on Zoom as well in the meantime. So the first card I have is going to be for Paul Gibson. Is Paul with us? Rihanna Hernandez, or Rina Hernandez. Sorry, I forgot if I didn't say that correctly. Jes

4:48:45•Nelson Esparza

Yeah, this is for any topic, not scheduled.

4:50:12 – 4:50:36•Nelson Esparza

All right, thank you. I'm gonna come over to Zoom, and if there's anyone else in the audience, you're welcome to, but I think we're gonna be done in person. So I have an unidentified call-in user. There's no name on it, so go ahead and you'll have three minutes.

4:50:53 – 4:51:11•Nelson Esparza

Yeah, we'll go ahead and cut that off. All right, any additional public comments that isn't racist or derogatory? All right. Next speaker on Zoom is going to be Brandy Nusviegas.

4:53:48•Nelson Esparza

All right. Thank you. Our next speaker on Zoom is going to be Lisa Flores.

4:55:30 – 4:56:01•Nelson Esparza

Thank you, Lisa. Is there any additional public comments on schedule communication on any topic? It's either anyone in the chamber or on Zoom as well. I don't see anybody popping up on Zoom either. We're going to go ahead and close unscheduled communication. That concludes the public portion of the meeting. We still do have a closed session to do. City Attorney, you already read those off. Do we expect any announcements?

4:56:07•Nelson Esparza

Okay. All right. Thank you all. Let's head to the back.

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