City Council - workshop

Everybody to the City Council Budget Workshop of August 5th, 2026. We will go ahead and begin with a pledge and invocation, if you'll stand with me.

Lord, Heavenly Father, thank you for the people who are in this room tonight. Thank you, Lord, for all of the city workers and our endeavors that we put forth for the citizens of Lake City. And Lord, please help those at the dais make great decisions for both citizens now and in the future. In your name I pray. Amen. Amen. All right. Tonight, let's make sure that everybody speaks into the mic, but Ms. Sykes, will you please call the roll?

All right. Ladies and gentlemen, the Lake City Council has opened its public meeting. And since 1968, the city code has prohibited any person from making personal, impertinent, or slanderous remarks or becoming boisterous while addressing the city council. Yelling or making audible comments from the audience constitutes boisterous conduct. Such conduct will not be tolerated. And there is only one approved manner of addressing the city council, and that is to be recognized and then speak from the podium. Failure to abide by the rules of decorum will result in removal from the meeting. Similarly

Mr. Mayor, I have a question to ask on procedure tonight. If it's all possible, I know we have Thursday already held as an overflow day. If the council agrees, I think it would be nice if we hit a hard stop at 8 tonight and had a five-minute at 7.

I think we've been running everybody on track, too, so I'm sure that they'd appreciate getting home before 10.

Yeah, and I appreciate that. That's why we should have some of these meetings at 8 a.m. instead of 8 p.m. getting out of here. So if we could start having some meetings in the morning times, like at 10, that would be great. But unfortunately, we have people that's got jobs.

Worth consideration. So that's a good point. So we all have a consensus that we're going to have a hard stop at 8 p.m. tonight. Now I'll turn it over to you, Ms. Rosenthal and Ms. Angie. Thank you, Mayor.

Martin Luther King brunch is on Sunday before the actual holiday. January, I'm sorry.

Mr. Jernigan is saying yes. Ms. Tammy, fine with that?

Sorry. Yeah, I think we're all fine with it. Okay. Okay.

I had a question. It was late, but I don't think we did garbage services before.

All right. I just wanted to know if there was any. All right. Thanks.

Not to cut you off, but it's okay. I just wanted to make sure that we were prepared for you.

Yes, I have a question. Those foreclosure or land use, on the foreclosures, you usually sell the property back once you demolish it or whatever. Do you sell it back? Do we get that money back or do you like offset it?

Okay. Would you make more or would you make less off of that property?

Ms. Young? No, I wouldn't agree with that because there are quite a few employees in that area already. And I think that it can be those employees Jobs that comes with the CRA can be dispersed out among the ones that are already in there. There are quite a few employees in there.

Yes, sir, Mr. Carter. Ms. Young, would you clarify what you're talking about?

Can you justify those positions as to where this CRA is? requirements or duties cannot be dispersed out?

Would it be a contractor or would it be a new employee?

It would be a new employee. Mr. Carter? Full-time, part-time?

So would it not be feasible to use an employee and we pay half the salary and CRA pay half the salary? That's cutting our costs there.

Mr. Carter. At a rate of $47,000, what kind of educational qualifications are required for this position? Do we already have someone in mind or is it hoping to get approved here and then we're going to?

To be clear, I guess what I'm asking is, is there some sort of a CRA specialist certification?

Whomever comes in has to be trained. Regardless of who you hire, they have to be trained.

They have to be trained. Regardless of who comes in, in a position, they're going to have to be trained. And we have employees already who can be trained in CRA. Okay. and share the burden of the salary.

I would say... We've been putting a lot of effort this year into refocusing our efforts and making the CRA successful and actively engaging in it. For me, I would take staff recommendation here. I mean, we can try it. We can try it. I don't know that we necessarily have to say we're trying it for a year or something like that, but if it isn't producing, I figure we would probably know within the next year or two if it's an effective role, if it's doing something for the CRA.

I would lean towards staff recommendation on this too. Mr. Jernigan?

And yes, I would definitely go with your recommendation. And I heard you say we should know some type of results within a year or so? Definitely. Okay.

Just checking. So if approved at this stage, would the goal be to begin the process for seeking someone out, hopefully hire by October 1st, and get the ball rolling as fast as possible on that? Yes, sir. Because it sounds like right now there's some of this aspect that a lot of you are just taking little pieces of and trying to kind of spread out among you.

Yes, ma'am. I take small indications because if you put your finger up or you indicate that you want to speak, you lean forward. I have to lean. I have to read body language up here most of the time. Just doing my best.

When I see a lot of relaxation going on in the office and when I'm hearing from the constituents, the citizens who complain that when they walk into the office they're not getting help, that doesn't tell me that that's a busy office. Maybe busy bodies, but that doesn't tell me that that's a busy office. That tells me that there's some, if the work is going, unless the work is going slack, which it could possibly be, but you have to fulfill your daily operation duties fully for me to say another person to come into another employee to be hired into a position because what that says to me is jus

Okay. Thank you, Miss Young. Mr. Carter.

I would just say a couple of things. One, especially this past year, I've been in this position for about two and a half years. This past year, I've gotten quite a few compliments on the smoothing out of the process. Also, there's a degree of uh it's your job to make sure that your staff is working and getting their job done it's his job to make sure you're doing it and so there's a there's a i mean none of us are in the building enough to be to in my opinion to be we're not the supervisors of those employees we're just not so um you know if if you're suggesting this is a necessary position in

Let me say this. It may not be your job, but it's for you to oversee to make sure that it's done properly. And you brought in Mr. Rosenthal, so let me touch on that. Mr. Rosenthal is his leader, but you're to see that. Wait, wait, now, you brought this in. I understand how it works. And the other thing is, don't say that somebody is not in that office enough, because sometimes I'm in there, sometimes every day for a week. So I'm in there a lot, and not only that, I get the complaints from the customer. Customer service, when you first walk in that office, those are the ones who keep that custo

Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll speak on it. Okay. All right. So just – no, no, no. Let's clear it up for me because I'm not going to take any more nods or finger flexes as wanting to speak anymore. Put your pin up if you want to speak from now on. That's what we're going to do. I'll speak.

I don't want you to take what – any of us say, I'll just use me for example, continue to strive to be the best you could be in that office. All you have to do is impress Mr. Rosenthal And Mr. Rosenthal has got to impress us. So just make sure whatever's going on in there, you impress Mr. Rosenthal. And I'm pretty sure that you probably talked to him about this before you brought it up in this meeting. So just strive to be the best you can be. And if it's not going good, you tell Mr. Rosenthal, and then we'll go from there. Yes, sir. Thank you.

My comments would be, if you drive around the city, you see development is happening everywhere. And the growth has to be managed by the growth management team. You guys have a lot of code enforcement that you're working on. It's a busy, busy department. I think there's at least four council members that support that position. Yes, ma'am.

No, I'll just forward them to you all this time.

Perfect. Don't break the sunshine, though. Ms. Angie?

My question on the CRA is how much are we having to transfer into the CRA? Or are we transferring into the CRA?

But is that covering the full amount here?

I just want to make that clear for the public so that we're not jumping up this much and it's not covered by, it's not self-funded by the CRA.

Thank you, Ms. Angie. Yes, sir, Mr. Carter.

One thing to be clear, this is just my opinion, but I think we may get some agreement here. And I kind of want to see this with a lot of different things going into the next year. But we're hiring this new person, and they're going to be trying to seek out grants and programs and things that can be getting done. I would love at a minimum like a quarterly report on what is being worked on. They can come out here, tell us, talk to us about what they're working on, what they've gotten done. Because obviously, if this is going well, we should be seeing it, right? You know what I mean? We should be

And it'd be good to know the metrics of residential projects, commercial projects, big projects from community partners that might be landing. Yes, sir, Mr. Jernigan.

And you say that would be like a quarterly report or every month, maybe?

Monthly, quarterly. I'm not bullish on which way, but just something regular.

definitely yes sir mr jernigan yes i agree with that that quarterly report um i agree with that okay miss young okay so mine is cra not oh we don't the position i think so yes yeah don't the position yes ma'am okay so staff has to understand that with the positions approved yes okay yes am i okay yes yes ma'am okay so cra um businesses residential

Within the CRA district, I think we have at least three. So when we- Do I have to scout? Oh, you want to name them since you said four?

but I think it depends on if you think Darby Pavilion and that area there is separate from the Rotary Park and then Alustee Park and then Sallie Mae Jerry, so that would be four to three. Sorry.

You got the, did you name, it's more. But anyway, my question is, and we're not really have total knowledge of exactly what we can do concerning parks, is that right?

Okay. So that would be like equipment. Can you name something other than equipment? Yeah.

Okay, so residential, I've gotten a lot of questions on residential. And so residential, if we make it plain, it's for the exterior of the property.

Okay, so that's like painting. Now, when we say, okay, windows, but now I've also... got information as though it's the front of the house facing the street? Front facade, okay. So when we say windows?

Okay, so we can do the windows visible to the street, but if there are windows in the back, we can't do those.

Okay. So we know this is coming up really soon. Yes. Right? So we got some homework to do. So we'll know exactly what we can do, what we can't do, what we shouldn't do or

Yes. And that's what will come before us on the grant application.

But we didn't say the amount, right? We haven't said the amount. No.

All right. Any other questions for Mr. Scott? I'll do it. Thank you. Thank you for the CRA.

I started you with an interruption and a stutter step back to your seat. Well done, Mr. Thomason. Thank you, Miss Angie.

Any questions for Chief? I will comment. It was a tragic line item veto by the governor himself that removed that fire truck out of our building.

Any questions for the airport? All right. I don't think so. Thank you guys very much. Thank you. Looking forward to watching that airport grow and do big things.

And the reason we haven't done that before is because it was a 0% match up until, and they just changed that rule this year.

No other questions. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, guys.

I have a question, ma'am. Okay, go ahead. On this. Can you go back?

Is it possible that when that lease runs out, can we buy that equipment?

And the reason why I asked you that is because, say for example, you go to Altel, you get a phone, or you go to get a truck, a car or something, you lease it, and then you can also buy it back at the end. So I'm just wondering, can you buy these

I had a question on this because I think that I asked the question last year and I can't remember the answer. You said it was to build or purchase a building, correct? Yes. And it can't be to repair or retrofit a current building?

City hall. Mr. Carter, you had a question?

We were supposed to spend it in three years and it's been six, so we're three years past that. Are we experiencing some sort of penalties for that?

Which we're doing currently, right? What we could do.

Building one. Ms. Angie, you have something to add to what Ms. Rosenthal is saying?

And it was about $12 million. It was about $12 million, yeah. Which is about three times what, yeah, Mr. Carter. He was next, and then it's you. I got an order.

We'll go back about seven minutes to when I raised my hand. Ms. Taylor was explaining that we would possibly be facing some more serious consequences down the road. Do we have any idea what down the road is? Is that one year, two years, five years? I feel like as long as there's no concept of a must-be-done-by, it's very easy to keep getting... Obviously, we've already done it for six years. Go ahead. No, that's it. That's the question.

Sure. Okay, so then just a good way of looking at it is we probably ought to come up with a plan this year. Yes. Thank you. Absolutely.

Michelle. The part that really... Confuses me is first of all we never decided whether we're gonna go for a new city hall or purchase the building over there, but all the effort is exhausted in the old building and Seems to me it almost sounds like administration has made up mind about purchasing a building that's already in And that concerns me. We did get, we didn't get a, I didn't get a number as to how much a new building was. I think that was a year ago. I got a roundabout. So I don't think we put enough effort into actually finding out how much It will cost us for a new city hall, look a

So to answer staff, the part about staff doing their own thing, we had a discussion where we gave them consensus to approach the owner of that building and make an offer and begin negotiations. I understand that. Concurrent with that, there was something in one of our agendas that had three different city hall plans, the least of which was just under $10 million. And that was building out at the old Columbia Bank building. One of them was completely tearing it down and building a single-story building, which I think was $11 million, and then the most expensive one. So it was like a good, bette

So, Mayor, what I would like is, what I would ask is that bring us both sides of the scale. Bring us information from both sides. We can do that. And let us look at it on paper, not word of mouth, on paper. Sure. And let us examine that and see where we find ourselves.

So formalizing the plan with the other building. All right. Yes, sir, Mr. Roosevelt.

Quick question on the funds for What a new city. How much would our tax bond be? Let's say we sold our buildings. We had this all together. Do we have an estimate of how much money we would have to work with?

Which we bought for $2.7? It was $1.1. Okay, $1.1.

So we would only be around $5 million based on market growth.

I know the, uh, the exchange exchange bank, they've been around a long time and that is a, uh, uh, a pretty nice, uh, bank on the inside and outside. And, uh, with the pillars out front, uh, it make it look even better. Uh, uh, so I would like to, um, if we can go forward with that bank, as long as we have Uh, we don't spend, we don't get out there and spend more money. Uh, like for example, if we're going to get a new city hall and we got to spend 10 million to get a new city hall, we, we go to this bank and I mean not the bank, but the, uh, vans, uh, carpet over here, uh, that is, that is st

I'll explain my animation if you'd like.

A whole lot of what was just asked for was given to us very clearly months ago. Secondly, if we decide to spend $14 million on a city hall after we've just made the entire city cut their budgets and after we just took 14 road repavings out of the budget, I would expect to see this building or whatever building surrounded by pitchforks. So I can't really speak on the purchase, not purchase, et cetera, of that building over there. To be clear, I'm employed by the people who own that building. But you are speaking. I'm not. I'm not. To be clear. Hold on.

Let's not speak over each other. Mr. Carter is speaking. Thank you.

I'm not speaking about that deal. I wasn't really going to say anything, but it is still my job as a member of this council to make sure that if I can influence us making smart financial decisions, I will. So if we have the ability for whatever building in whatever place to spend $5 million instead of $15 million, that seems like a... No brainer. And that's all I'll say on that. My animation, again, was because I feel like staff was just given a real hard time. Like they didn't do what was just asked of them in the last six months because they did that exact thing. And then we gave them direct

Thank you. Let's not have a back and forth over each other. These are for to speak to each other, but let's not talk over each other. Anything else?

Before Steve comes up, it is 7.05. Do you guys need a break?

Thank you. We do have a question for you, Mr. Jernigan.

We didn't have any, we didn't save, we stayed at the same level. Yes, sir. Thank you so much. Just wanted to make sure that everybody knew that. When you stay at the same level or something with everything going up the way it is and the services, that's just amazing by itself.

Is there, for public interface, are there any motions forward on ease of use for public interface? And I don't really know that it's so much your department as it is with like growth management and and some of those others uh but it's all customer service to me right so can can you or i.t speak to how that project was going because i know that we were looking at a higher rollout of technological public interface last year and it got shelved yeah i don't i don't know about i know the projects that we're working on but that would be jason probably if he's working on any of that call that out of

Very good. I think that would be a huge customer improvement. Yeah, thank you. I don't know. My brain just went blank.

Anyone else have any questions? I don't have a question, Mayor, if it's okay, I have a compliment.

I'm looking at this, we have pictures here in these different departments, and I'm actually looking at the picture of your team. Yes, ma'am. And this is exactly what you get when you walk in that customer service office. Do you see the eagerness, the energetic smiles? This is what you get when you walk in that door every time. I appreciate that. And I get compliments and I appreciate you and your team. And I think this falls under Mr. Brown as well. I really appreciate it. And I'm serious. When you walk in there, it's just so bright. Thank you. And I love it. I appreciate that. Great picture. You should post it in your office.

Mike, my man, my man, Mike. The award winner. That's right.

Yes. I don't have a question, but I'd sure like to make this statement here. I remember years ago, the water was okay. But since I went through and you gave me the tour of the plants or plant, what they do out there with that water and what you do to make sure that my kids, my grandkids and my family and friends in this city And I know you got plenty of awards and recognitions. I just want to recognize you for the job you're doing, you and your staff is doing out there. And please keep the water very, very safe for us to drink. And I think that's an achievement right there coming for the city

I was just going to say the same thing Mr. Jernigan did. I know we won a couple new awards this year. You guys do great. And it's obviously nothing against any other departments in the city. But walking through you guys' stuff, it's so pristine. It's so well-maintained. And anybody else I've talked to who's seen it says the same stuff. So just keep up the great work. Keep up the great work.

Also, I believe this is Mr. Mike who we had a little statement that was made and it brought an alarm to our citizens here in Lake City about a water shortage. Is this who we're talking? Okay. And so the community wants to hear about what does Lake City have in place when it comes to this water shortage that has been said that could happen in our city or is at the peak of our city. Well, I understand that Mr. Mike will be glad to talk to our citizens in some way, form, or fashion.

And there's no reason for us to be alarmed. Is that right? No, ma'am. Great team.

Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Mr. Osborne.

Any questions for Mr. Pridgen? Are we just moving to the next?

Can you speak into the mic? Sorry about that. I apologize.

Okay. It doesn't look as big as the other one by these pictures, but it is definitely linearly way longer for sure.

Yeah. I'll agree with you. You need a golf cart. Thank you.

Yeah, just a quick question. Really, it's a clerical question, but I don't, why are all of these parts of the wastewater treatment process put together as separate departments?

Can they see, so I think this will be an awesome tool where they can see projects that have, how it looked before, how it was fixed. Will they be able to see those, like a year-to-date project? You'll see it live as we do things.

Any questions? We do have a question for you, Mr. Brown. Mr. Carter?

Not a question, but again, you and your whole team at utilities, gas, the pipes in and out, gas, liquid, all the stuff. I know you guys do a ton of stuff in-house. You're always finding creative ways to save money. Doing that and also passing those things with no issues is very impressive. It's great. That entire department and all the departments involved in that. You guys are killing it. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Brenner. Mr. Jernigan, you want to say something?

My question to you, Steve, I'm sorry. With all of the annexations that's coming into the city, I think that with that and we're running leaps and bounds and making sure that we get these different areas into our city, I must say that Just listening to the folks talk about the city and what we offer as far as utilities, you guys are doing a very, very good job. Thank you. I mean, I hear people say, I wish I could annex into the city. I wish I could do this because it is a very, very good operation that you guys are performing on a daily basis. So I appreciate that.

And that's why, it's good to say thank you, and it's good to give all of these great compliments, but I would just, and we're cutting budget, I realize that, but I just want us to get to a space where we can really show appreciation and raise this. And I'm not talking about administration, I'm not talking about the high dollar people, I'm talking about, like he's done two boots on the ground, customer service, I would love You know, the willingness and the eagerness that they express when you walk in, it's valuable. And I just would love to be able to give these employee raises.

With that being said, question. Can you explain to me how their salaries are paid?

Y'all hear that? Something to think about. You get it? Mm-hmm. Okay.

Huh? You sound like the council. No, but it just sounds like they're in a position where they can go up.

They're in a position where they can go up, and I think we need to really consider that, think about that.

All right. Thanks. Thanks, Steve. Thank you. All right, turn it back over to you, Ms. Angie.

All right, perfect. With it being turned back over to me, we already went through the grant program. We've gone through all of our – is there anything that we need to revisit? from last night, or Michelle?

Before we do public comment. I'm sorry. Go for it, sorry.

Maybe take a brief recess, come back, and determine what we want to talk about before we do this. Sure, yeah, five minutes.

Just not dead. All right. Welcome back, everybody. Sorry. We've been through all the departments. We've given feedback. I appreciate presentations from all of the departments tonight. We would open it up to public participation at this point, but we don't have anybody in the room. I don't see any cards in the back, so we'll close public participation. And with that, that is all of our items for the night. So that concludes the meeting, everybody. Well done. Right? I'm just going through. Yeah. Well, I asked. I said, do we have anything further that we'd like to discuss?

Okay, I would like to counsel, respectfully bring back the, well, now it's 100,000 because we've already set the 100,000, is that right, Richardson? Remember I requested $200,000 for recreation total, right?

All right, so we're coming back to, now we're here.

Okay, okay, so we're back to recreation. So we were going to close out without doing it at all?

I said, do we have anything further to discuss or want to revisit? And I didn't hear anything. And so we're back, we're back, we're talking about it now.

So we're back to the $200,000 recreation. You got something, Andy? You're looking like... I'm just listening. Make sure I don't miss anything.

This is her typical face if you ever look down the road.

I don't look that way no more. So, and I presented a proposal last night with $100,000 specifically for Richardson Community Center. And that's what they requested. And we normally fund them yearly. Okay. So, and I ask that another 100,000 be set aside for recreation with the proposal, two hubs, one Richardson Community Center, one Annie Maddox Park, to form one unit for recreation. Are we there? one unit for recreation. So the 100,000 will be for eligible recreation, and this money cannot be diverted to utilities or unrelated capital projects. Am I saying this pretty good? Can you? I think wh

I think that came up as a concern yesterday. That's what I got as a concern.

I guess, so to clarify the request, the request is it, it's a total, and if we're not separating, I wouldn't separate facilities. This is what it looks like to me, right? It's a fund request for a single entity that is going to oversee and help provide recreation to youth in our community. Right. I would say that this that the entity itself and this is theoretical because I don't think this entity exists right theoretically this entity would help youth get into recreation and provide recreation no matter what the park was no matter where it was And it would be a 501c3 or organization coming to

Yes, sir. Help me clarify that in my mind.

I think I understood that to be correct, yes.

That seems more confusing to me to create an advisory board. Mr. Carter, you have a question?

Yes, at this moment, I have a couple questions and then some thoughts. At this moment, we do not have an active and functioning Parks and Rec Department. I understand that there's technically a unstaffed, like on the books, there's a Parks and Rec Department that just doesn't do anything or have anything. But last year, we gave $50,000, half of the total from the Mayor of Matching Grant Fund to Bridges Community Center. as part of the budget process and then during the summer they asked for and we gave another 20 000 so last year we gave a total of 70 000 to the richardson community center tho

I really appreciate you explaining all that. But what are y'all doing? What are you doing for the children? I know you got to have lights. You got to have this. But what kind of programs do you have for the kids that come out there on a daily basis who uh the the what what you know what can we we give them for for example you go out to richardson community center and uh they have like a tutor uh they may have um uh basketball practice uh as i see in the north star uh behind there they're um going over lessons help somebody with their homework and What kind of programs can we do for you to help

Yes. So we're doing things. But what about the children? What do we have for them?

AND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS, I KNOW YOU'RE THE PREACHER, AND TRANSPARENCY WILL BE THERE, AND YOU KEEP THE BOOKS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO ORGANIZED PROGRAMS, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SHOOT FOR HERE. Richardson Community Center, it's limited how much space we can use there. For instance, as I said last night, summer camp. They can only accept so many youth in summer camp. It's the limit. I think what we do, 50? You know how many more we can actually serve in summer camp? 50 doesn't even knock the courts off. There are so many more that we need to service. So we'll have two different recreation areas for these young people. We need recreation. It's very important. And the truth of the matter is, it's not even about the

And after the first quarter, we get a report showing what has happened within that quarter. And then that will determine whether they're funded the next quarter.

Richardson doesn't have full staff. That's summer program. That's summer program.

Full staff is a very subjective term. You can mean whatever you want to mean. How are you guys currently funded? Is it just donations?

the different sports and things that take place there at the moment, how are they organized?

Okay. So they have, so like a coach and there's, there's quite a few teams. I'm assuming the coach comes.

And those coaches kind of manage their own teams? Things like money for the uniforms for the kids? Yes. Is there an organization outside of you guys that is the management of a league of some kind or something like that?

What is $250,000? Is that your entire budget? What does that number mean to you guys?

My thought on that, so with the CRA money that we just allocated, that can be applied for and you can go through that process. My thoughts on capital improvements of the park, and I think that I said it last night, is it's a private property, right? Yes, sir. So public funds for capital improvements on a private property is... It would be like me asking... It would be like me asking a handful of people to help me put a shed on my property or improve my property, and then I can tell them they can't come on my property, right? So capital funds, public funds for capital improvements on private pr

So an individual or the church itself owns it?

It speaks my point again. If somebody owns that. At any time, if an individual owns it, you have property, right, Mr. Nelson? Yes, sir. At any time, you can tell somebody not to come on that property. I know that it's publicly accessible and that this would not happen, right?

If someone owns that property and it's not public, they can be trespassed or that park can be closed to the public at any given time. It's the lay of the law. Chief, am I wrong on this? Or Mr. Martin?

However, the very public activities that happen at that park are great. They're great activities. Again, I'm not as – I think you have to differentiate between the locations and what the purpose of the funds are. The purpose of the funds to provide recreation for youth is more acceptable to me than providing it to the – the places. But I'm going to stop diatribing. We do have an order. Mr. Carter and then Ms. Young, that was the order that I saw. Mr. Carter. A couple quick questions.

Last night, whenever the folks from Richardson Community Center were here talking, what do i remember correctly that they said that sometimes they use animatics for some of the stuff like when when they don't have enough room or or overflow or something like that so i guess my part of my question there would be is not funding them to some degree allowing they can use whatever space if they wanted to use the softball fields over here if they wanted to use animatics park or what have you they can funding that organization which is already organizing programs can use whatever space they want to s

Ms. Young, you had your answer. I don't know if you're aware, but the city, we already have a lease agreement with Annie Meadows Park. License agreement. License agreement, I'm sorry. We already have a license agreement with Annie Meadows Park. So what's the difference?

What does that look like? What is that? What does it look like? Yeah, what is that? License for what?

No, because that's publicly owned. Yes, sir, Mr. Martin.

But is there a public, does it make it? Yeah. What does that mean? Because you can license certain things, but what does that license provide for the, does it make it a public park? No.

Well, I found it on chat GPT. But anyway, so we provide lighting, we provide security in a part that we cannot provide organized recreation. Make it make sense.

Do we provide lighting and all that? I know that we provided cameras and we've provided capital improvements before. We installed the lights.

What I meant was the nickel lights that you can feel the heat coming off of because they're generating so much energy. Yeah. A question, Mr. Carter alluded to this. I know it's 8 o'clock. We did say hard stop at 8 o'clock, so we do have an overflow for tomorrow night, but do we want to continue tonight, or do we want to work into our overflow tomorrow?

Well, I would just say, Mr. Mayor, for my... point of view, as short as I think this conversation could be, it doesn't seem like it's gonna be. Really, we could determine how short the board wants the conversation to be now. I expressed earlier what I think we ought to do this year. Did four of the five of us agree with that? Agree to what? What's that assertion, Mr. Carter? The assertion is that we fund Richardson Community Center for $75,000. Oh, wait, wait, wait. That was the thing I said earlier.

Mr. Jernigan, thoughts? I like Mr. Carter's idea with the $75,000. And if we want to move forward with anything else, you know, tomorrow night will be the ideal time, provided that you don't have something going on tomorrow night.

It'll be 5 p.m. Well, this will be our only item. Hold on. This will be our only item for tomorrow night. So it'll be 5 p.m. We'll start.

Okay, perfect. That'd be perfect. Where was I at on there? I didn't switch. I don't think, Ms. Young. Please help me understand. She said I switched on the way off on the $1,000.

My thought would actually be to give Richardson the $50,000 out of the Mayor's Matching Grant plus another $50,000 and have it as $100,000 to Richardson Community Center. And that way if they wanted to do – and their agreements could be with Annie Maddox, right? Because as alluded to, they already use that facility, all of that stuff. No, uh-uh. So that was my thought.

We'll see everybody tomorrow night then.