Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Good, good. Well, this is the presentation portion of the agenda. I am Commissioner Oliver Gilbert. Our chairman, Anthony Rodriguez, is approaching. Our mayor, Daniela Levine-Cava, is on her way down. We have presentations today. Now, what we do in these presentations is we recognize extraordinary people, extraordinary organizations at times who've done things that go above and beyond. Today, we have some presentations. First, I give the microphone to the chairman. You all give him a round of applause, Anthony Rodriguez. Oh, I mean, yeah, thank you, guys.

All right. I don't know why you handed me this. This isn't what I need right now. All right. Madam Mayor, powerful red. All right, good morning, good morning. All right, so... Man, we got all the puppies. All right, I love it. I should have brought my daughter to work with me today if I knew that you all were going to bring the dogs. I probably didn't know that and I still didn't bring her.

All right, we're going to start, we're not going to start with you guys. We're going to wait a second to get a few. We're going to start with some other very important folks that are here today. We have this morning some very distinguished guests and members of the Consulate Court of Canada, right? We have the Council General of Canada, the Honorable Sylvia Cesarato. Cesarato, more or less. All right, I'll let you correct me in a second. And Ms. Shannon Eisenhut. All right, I think I said that okay. The US State Department Regional Director for the Office of Foreign Missions. So it is my privi

Commissioner? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll be very brief. One of the things that's really special about our interaction with the rest of the world is the consular core here in Miami-Dade County. It's a very large consular core. And it's kind of symbolic of the idea that we are an international city. We're an international city in every way. 53% of the people who live here were born in a different country. We're international in the sense that we are the gateway to the Americas and to South and Central America and the Caribbean. We're the first people they see when they come to their country.

Any other commissioners want to speak on?

General, you are a friend. Thank you so much for your friendship, for your support. But as Commissioner Gilbert said, we have been working, I personally have been working with the Consul General of Canada, your predecessor, yourself. It is amazing the kind of work that you're doing here. So many Canadians living and working here. So I'm just grateful that I can serve now in this role as a commissioner to help foster all of the great relationships that you have worked so hard to do so. So thank you.

I got to say ditto. We've known each other prior council and you. I think I was one of the first people that was visited by you. So thank you so much for the great job you've done and continue to do, both of you. And obviously ditto to my colleague to the left side.

All right, Mayor, thank you very much. Now Commissioner Bastien.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good morning, everyone. I just want to join my voice to those of my colleagues and our mayor to thank you for all your service. Oftentimes this job is being unrecognized, yet you have such an impact on people's lives. So I want to thank you for that. And thank you also for reaching out to my office and coming to meet with me often to get feedback on the immigrant situation, not only for Haiti but for others. So thank you so much. Appreciate you.

All right. Gerard, do you want to say? I mean, Commissioner Stemming just wants to say ditto.

We'd like you to say a few words as well, both of you.

Thank you, thank you guys. Yeah, you see, they're excited too. So now we have a special presentation and certificate to present. Oliver Gilbert, do you want to help me out with one of these? You want to hold on and see the other one? All right. So as commissioner and on behalf of the mayor, to my left, and the Board of County Commissioners and the residents of Miami-Dade County, nearly what, 2.8 million plus or minus? I take great pleasure in presenting this certificate of appreciation to you in recognition of your valuable contributions to our community and wish you the best as you mark the e

Do you want to present it to me? THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION IS PRESENTED TO THE HONORABLE SYLVIA CECERATO, THE COUNCIL GENERAL OF CANADA IN MIAMI. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

Mayor. All right, guys, we have our second presentation of the day. I think our last, right? This is, all right, we have two today. So now for our second presentation, we have our, I'm going, why are you so bossy? I was going to say something mean, yeah. I was going to say something mean regarding the DCs. This is the Congress life already. He's already, you know, this is actually always him. All right, so today we proudly recognize, can we quiet down please? Today we proudly recognize the extraordinary courage, professionalism, selfless service of Miami Dade Fire Rescue's Urban Search and Res

It's always, I imagine the stories, and I hope you share some of that with us when you speak here in just a few minutes, Chief Webb. I imagine being over there was probably the most emotional portion of this all, but just the last clip kind of getting you guys back home, I think to me is what really gets us. So glad to have you guys back home. I want my colleagues to say a few words and then we'll do the official presentation and have your colleagues come up as well. Commissioner Lopez, you want to lead? Thank you.

you Mr. Chairman. So some of you know that I was the budget chair in the Florida House when it came time to fund you and it was touch and go to the very last minute and I never gave up because I know the importance of your work and so in the final moments of that budget conference we were able to get you 4.8 million dollars to do what you do best and it was the greatest honor and privilege to be able to have my hand and fingerprints that and so just want to tell you it's for that very reason that we all support you and I am moved by seeing you in action because oftentimes you know we're fundin

Oftentimes we don't think about the value, the importance, and the sacrifices that you have to make to do this work. And in watching the clips and in watching you getting ready to deport, And knowing that you are, you know, fathers, mothers, you're leaving everything behind to help those in need. So we cannot thank you enough because you are our ambassadors. When you're out there doing God's work, you are our ambassadors. So it's just, you know, enough for us to say thank you. Thank you for your sacrifices. Thank you for your services. Thank you.

I REITERATE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID. THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES, FOR THE SACRIFICES AND ALSO OUR FRIENDS HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ARE THE BEST REPRESENTATION OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. MIAMI-DADE COUNTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE. I KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND THE WORLD. IT'S NOT JUST VENEZUELA. I HAPPEN TO REPRESENT A DISTRICT THAT HAS THE MOST NUMBER OF VENEZUELANS PROBABLY IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. AND WE ARE VERY THANKFUL. AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE ALL VERY THANKFUL. for having miami-dade county president but you are the best ambassadors of us many times the elected

I'll reiterate what my colleague said. Listen, you're what American exceptionalism actually looks like when folks really need us. When folks really need us, you're an amber hope, a flicker of light to someone who's trapped under something. to someone who just needs something to hang on to, someone to pull them out back into a world that might not be perfect, but it's a world of the living. What you do is exceptional. You leave your homes and your family, you put yourselves at risk, you go into situations that we could never imagine, and you do it in the name of this county, all of us great res

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair, for sponsoring this very important presentation. There is really no way to thank you all. What you do is selfless. You deploy every single day to serve our community. And as they say, when folks are running away from an emergency and from danger, you all are running towards it. So there is no way to thank you for what you do. And to thank your families for the sacrifices that they do every single day to allow you to serve our county and save our residents and keep us safe. So thank you for serving in this way. Thank you for going over to Venezuela during this t

I want to thank the chair for putting this together. Guys, we're recognizing you today. But I know that you don't do it for the recognition because you're built different. You represent the best part of humanity. After Jesus is ascended into heaven, the disciples are left here, right? And then you have Peter and John that they're walking towards Pentecost and they're walking and they see a disabled beggar. And the guy's literally sitting in front of the temple asking for money. And then Peter looks at him and he says, money I don't have to give you. But I will give you everything I have in the

Hold it, just a second. We're going to hear from our Mayor, then Chief Jadalla, Chief Webb, do the presentation, then call everybody up as well. Madam Mayor.

All right. Thank you, Chief, for that. I'm going to go ahead and present the... official proclamation of Chief Webb on behalf of all of you guys, well, all of us, to you guys, and then Chief Webb, we're going to want to hear from you a couple words. I know you have a lot to say. I'm messing with you. Be it resolved that on behalf of the mayor, Daniel Levincava, myself as chairman of the board, Anthony Rodriguez, and the members of the board of county commissioners, and on behalf of Miami-Dade County and its plus or minus 2.8 million residents, We do hereby proclaim today, Tuesday, July 21st, 2

All right, let's do, yeah, we're gonna do one photo with the folks up here, and then I would like to get, I know it's a couple of you, but we're gonna try to get all of you guys in the photo as well. Let's do one first with these folks. Where's Goffrey? All right, there you go. All right, Goffrey, from now on, you're in charge, so you let us know where to stand.

One more for good luck. All right, task force one, you guys want to come up here? All right.

madam mayor madam mayor airport seaport adrienne all right let's take a seat guys let's get this show on the road good morning good morning All right. Thank you all. If we can please, as quietly as possible, stand for the invocation given this morning by Father Manuel Ramay of Our Lady of Lebanon, Maronite Catholic Church, Miami, at the invitation of Commissioner Lopez, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner Lopez.

All right, you all may be seated All right, please find a seat if you're in the back There should be no one standing up in the back unless your media or sergeant at arms or law enforcement all right madam attorney Good morning all, we have what appears to be a lengthy meeting today. So let's keep that in mind as we move the meeting forward. Madam Attorney, is it in order for me to move into reasonable opportunity for the public to be heard at this time?

All right, I'm going to go ahead and open up reasonable opportunity for the public to be heard. Did I do roll call already? I did not. Wow, I'm that fast. I'm trying to get this . Let's do roll call.

All right, so now reasonable opportunity for the public to be heard is open. I will call your name, please state the item you're speaking on, your name and address, and you will have one minute to speak as we have a fairly long list of speakers. And I have. All right, we are trying to get people some of us are trying to skip the line of reasonable opportunity. We're not going to do that right now. So, 1st up, I have commissioner Ralph Rosado right here. I'm going to call a few of you guys and just please line up on each side of the center rows. And I'll turn approach the well, I have surgery K

And anyone that registered to speak but doesn't necessarily need to anymore, feel free to just wave in support or whatnot. Sir?

Thank you, John. Thank you. Sorry, but I think the minute's up. All right, sir.

Thank you so much, appreciate it. All right. Did William Rathbun, Elio Lopez-Mino, Fernando Craveiro de Sá. And then they're waving, okay. And then everyone else that I'm going to call is here for the same item for the WASTE report 14B1 and it also has four, so in favor. If you want to wave, you're welcome to. I have Nevado Soria. Michael Perez. Michael Perez. Is that you coming down, Michael? All right. Sebastian Alvarez. Sebastian Alvarez. All right. I got you. Waving. Joshua Reyes. Waving. Julian Becker. My blind, Julian. Julian. Valerie Donette. Valerie Donette. Ernesto Fernandez. All righ

They need to have been here earlier, Laura. Thank you for that, though. Appreciate the public service announcement. Juan Rojas. Juan Rojas. Nicole Lozano. Nicole Lozano. Luis Suarez. Evelyn Rodriguez. Maria Molina? Maria, thank you. Arturo Burbano? Okay, and again, just to make sure, all of you guys are waving in support of the report, the WASTE report, is what I have. 14B1. Pedro Quiroz? Pedro, all right, thank you. And Rick Tavares. Rick, thank you. All right, those are all the public speakers I have. For reasonable opportunity registered. Is there anyone that just walked upstairs from downs

But is he signed up to speak on public hearing or reasonable opportunity?

Reasonable opportunity, he says. Okay, then you could approach the podium as well. Approach the well. You both can, there's two wells. You both can approach the wells. I mean, don't all rush at the same time. Go ahead, you're up.

All right, I got Mr. Ron McGill if he's, Ron McGill, are you? On the list, let's come on up, sir. I knew you weren't retiring. You see, it was a fake pump. It was a false alarm. All right, ma'am.

Thank you, Ron. Appreciate the enthusiasm. Thank you. All right, ma'am.

You can give it a shot, though. We'll entertain it. You'll take it? We'll take it. Okay.

Chair, point of order. If we could just have the chambers be quiet while she's speaking.

Thank you so much. All right, so Sergeant Kim, we're able to get you guys up from downstairs. Um, I know some of you, I'm going to obviously encourage you guys to speak, but some of you did wave in support of an item. So you're kind of bamboozling me here a little bit now. I see you're ready to speak, but go ahead. Have at it.

It's the chair of order please. Madam commissioner. So as people finish speaking, maybe it will be wise for him to leave. So they are downstairs. They are.

They are. They're going to be taken back downstairs after after they speak. Yes. Go ahead, sir.

I appreciate it. Thank you. All right. We are now officially closed with a reasonable opportunity. And Madam Attorney, should we set the agenda at this time?

I have some more pulled, the Vice Chairman for two.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can you please add to that list 11A15, 8P9, and 14B1? I'll be pulling those.

Any additional pulled items? Anyone wishes to pull any additional items? I'll entertain a motion to set the agenda. Move it.

Repeat the three, Vice Chair? I've got a point of discomfort. But it's kind of loud, I'm just- I'm very uncomfortable, too, in other ways, but we'll talk about those.

Go ahead, Vice Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madam Attorney, the items I referred to were 11A15, 8P9, and 14B1. Those are the items I will be pulling.

Commissioner Gilbert, you're recognized for a point of discomfort. A point of discomfort. I refuse to believe that we pulled this entire agenda. I just refuse to believe that there are that many controversial things on this agenda. I went through this agenda. There's not, but we're politicians. We like to hear ourselves talk. Oh, my God.

It's what it is. Oh, my God. We got nothing else to do. Well, that's funny. you all pack a lunch and that's how we got a naranja meeting tonight i mean by the way i can't make it but we got a naranja meeting tonight so mr chair who's who's i want to add to commissioner gilbert's

8P8. 8P8. All right. With that, I'll entertain a motion to set the agenda and all of its pulled items. It's been moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Bastien. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. everything that jerry mentioned happens with the setting of the agenda can we quiet down in the back please all right before i get into first readings i'm going to recognize the mayor for two appointments uh we'll start with 2b1 which is the mayor appointment to the director of the seaport department We have Jonathan Daniels, serving as the new Executive Director, well, he was ser

Thank you. Thank you. Welcome. Anyone that takes this job deserves a round of applause. Yeah, yeah, and he brought his wife with him, I mean, that's like a double whammy. All right, go ahead, you got the floor.

Awesome, thank you, Madam Mayor, and welcome aboard again. Thank you, sir. Chairwoman Conegans.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Madam Mayor, and welcome. Thank you. And congratulations on the appointment. I just want to say a few words regarding your role and the size of it and the magnitude of the work that you're going to do here for us in the community. Not only focusing on passenger volume and those numbers, but with a particular emphasis on the amazing community that you are now a key member of and the over 300,000 jobs. that rely on Port Miami every day to feed their families. And so I know that you are equipped and experienced. We all certainly look forward to working with yo

Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Congratulations, Madam Mayor. Thank you for that appointment. Very good. Congratulations and we hold you to the fire. Absolutely. I know that Adrian at your side is going to be great. Look forward to it. Thank you. Commissioner Regalado has some remarks. Hold on. Future director, hold on. Don't go so far. Hold on. We got some more. He is the director, I guess now.

Yes, so I always say, I don't know if to say congratulations or condolences, but I hope you stick around for our conversation over the port bond. It'll be interesting.

So Director, I want to congratulate you on taking this role. I think that it's clear that it's not going to be an easy role, but I have looked into some of the things that you did at Port Everglades. And Port Everglades being one of those ports that is on our heels, it almost feels like the Miami heat Giannis trade right now. And I'm glad to have you on this team. Thank you. It won't be easy, you're not going to get a lot of sleep, but I'm sure that you will be up to the challenge, and I look forward to working with you.

Thank you, director, congratulations. Madam Mayor, item 2B2, you're good, director, thank you. Item 2B2, your Director of the Department of Cultural Affairs. Madam Mayor, we have Ashley K. Thomas, a Miami native with deep ties to the local community, a strong understanding of the county's cultural infrastructure, and more than 25 years of experience across the arts, non-profit leadership, and public administration. Please intro our new Director of Cultural Affairs.

THANK YOU, ASHLEY. CONGRATULATIONS. WELCOME ABOARD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SURE, WE ALLOWED IT FOR ONE, WE ALLOW IT FOR THE OTHER, RIGHT? All right, Ashley, you're loved. You got much less time than the Seaport director had. I understand. He certainly went over his time and abused his time, but we're going to give it to him. Go ahead.

That was brief. I like that. Congratulations. That's two rounds of applause. You see that? That's two rounds of applause. All right. Stop, stop. You're talking about long meetings.

I just want to say that. That's the difference between, see, she's from here. She knew to say something real quick and sit down. She knew exactly what to do.

Hey, hey, hey, cut my man Jonathan some slack. I was giving him a hard time because his wife is in the room, so I wanted to. Madam Attorney, can we do the aviation items before we go into first readings? And then I understand we have some releases as well?

Do you want to just- Go ahead, let's do the release.

So 8G5, Commissioner Gonzales moves 8G5. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay, show it passed. And then can you call up the aviation items?

It's been moved by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, seconded by Gilbert. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay, show it passed. It's been moved by Cohen-Higgins, seconded by Gilbert. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Moved by Cohen-Higgins, seconded by Gilbert. All in favor aye.

It's been moved by Cohen-Hagan, seconded by Gilbert. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Show it passed. 8 a 5. It's been moved by the same, seconded by the same. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All the same ayes. It passes. AP1 moved by the same, second by the same. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Show it passed. AP5. AP5 is moved by the same, second by the same. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay.

All right. We got the aviation items out. Now, Madam Attorney, can you please read the first reading items, including the 14s that are first readings as well?

All right, Madam Attorney, we have some bifurcations, right? We have 4B and 14A5 through 14A8. And 14A1 as well. And 14A1 as well, okay. All right, Commissioner, who's that? Who's that? Commissioner Regalado?

Yeah, I pulled the procurement ones, I guess 14A5. And 1488.

And 1488. I'm happy to release those. Okay, so 14 a 5 to 14. A 8 released and you need to put something. For E for D. All right so show commissioner Cohen Higgins pulling for D. Can I have a motion on the rest of the 1st reading items?

Okay, so 14A1 is part of the motion now. All right, so Commissioner Gonzales moves the rest of the items. But for 4B and 4D, it's been seconded by Commissioner Lopez. Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

Okay, Senator Garcia on 4B, you can't discuss it, so are you just trying to vote no on it or?

No, Mr. Chairman, I want to try to waive the rules to make sure this is placed on the following agenda on September 22nd. This is the hospital funding bill that we've done previous times, so because of ACA constraint, time constraints, we want to make sure it's on the agenda for the next one.

That's okay, so what meeting exactly did you want it to go on? On the September.

And if we can do 15B1, which is a public hearing notification, that'll be great.

Okay, so you'll move 4B for the September 2nd meeting with all the proper notices. Madam Attorney?

Senator Garcia moves 4B, seconded by Regalado. Clerk, please call the roll. It's 4B substitute. 4B substitute. Please call the roll.

Senator understand them are in September meeting the first of September 1st. So you want to make a motion at this time to waive the to waive the rules or what not and.

All right it's been moved by Senator Garcia. Jerry go ahead. Jerry.

All right, we have a motion by Senator Garcia, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. All opposed nay, show it passed. Eddie, can you read my motion along the same lines as well?

All right, so it moved by Commissioner Conegan, seconded by Commissioner Steinberg. All in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed, nay. All right, Commissioner McGee moves for D, seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. And I know you bifurcated, but you can't speak on it, so clerk, please call the roll.

All right, thank you very much that concludes our first reading items. Madam attorney. I will recognize first. I'm going to go ahead and recognize Commissioner Gilbert for a motion. I was going to start somewhere else, but we'll start there. Commissioner Gilbert, you're recognized to make a motion.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If the attorneys could come forward, I have a motion to reconsider. On the port item that we determined, we decided at our last meeting, there's some technical changes that came to light after we engaged the consultant, the expert that we need to make. And so I'm going to make the motion to reconsider. I'll give it to the attorneys to read.

It's been moved to reconsider, seconded by Commissioner Regalado. Oh, seconded by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins.

They don't sound alike. I thought it was a good day in the county. They don't sound alike, no, no. I mean, not today, say no. We got a motion, we have a second by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. All in favor of the reconsideration, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay.

Short reconsidered. Thank you. Now that it's before us, I move the item as amended. We have some technical amendments. I think it's been filed with the clerk.

Yeah, Mr. Chair, we're going to have it. They're going to read it to us. Mr.

Chair, you're going to wait until you recognize Commissioner Regula? Yeah.

I just asked him to read it. I literally said that before you still wanted to hear yourself say it on the microphone. All right, go ahead if you could read the amendment.

All right. We have a motion. Second. We have a second by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Commissioner Regalado, you're recognized.

Thank you. Just for the record, I know that last time this item came before us, the reason it was before us is because we were amending the legal description. So now we're amending the legal description again. Is this making it smaller or bigger? Because we have a few easements on here. There's a different description. But does this increase the footprint that we had from the prior item or decrease it?

The attorneys are recognized to answer the question.

So in terms of the size of the parcel, we're still staying within the existing footprint of what we need for the fuel facility, which was the prior amendment.

All right. With that, all in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. So that item passed with two no votes. All right, now I will take up 7D, the Kelly Tractor application. Madam Attorney, let's go ahead and take that item.

All right. And we have, was that the supplement and second supplement as well?

Okay. And all right. So I have the item before us. Public hearing has been had on this item already.

Commissioner Bermudez moves the item. Seconded by Commissioner Gonzalez. Any discussion on it? Commissioner Regalado, you're recognized.

Thank you, I just want to walk through the changes. I know that we've discussed this item a lot and I don't want to belabor the point, but I think that the changes that we've made to date have really changed dramatically this item. And I hope that the board will consider these requirements in the future. Because I think that it's a way for us to change the conversation in terms of preservation. So first and foremost, obviously I filed the item to change the tax amendment. I think most of us were concerned that the tax amendment was going to be abused. So I hope that this is the last one that w

I understand, and that's if the county rejects ownership, right?

So we're saying that the application now says that if the county has the ability to reject ownership, if the county decides not to do it, then you have the obligation to preserve it. But I really want the county to own it. I think that that's the best path forward for us. On page 12 of the declaration of restrictions, and for those who are watching, I just want to say this information, is in the actual covenant, it's on page 13. But on page 12, number 7, for the preservation area, so we're talking about two different parcels, right? We're talking about the existing preservation area. And numbe

Okay, I would like it to be the inverse just as it is in the next page. The next page has the owner shall dedicate and convey these additional offsite wetland preservation areas to Miami-Dade County's EO program at no cost to Miami-Dade County and in natural state free of exotic vegetation. So in seven, I would like the same. I don't want the owner to decide if they're going to give the preservation areas to eel. I want eel to have the right of first refusal. I think eel wants them. If eel doesn't want them, then the owner would then maintain them and preserve them. So can we have that same la

Now going back to Page 15. One of the reasons that this application is so different from everything else that this board has seen is because of Kelly's involvement in our emergency response at all levels. And on page 15, paragraph 10, we speak about the county emergency management. Is it possible to give Miami-Dade County government a priority in terms of access to Kelly equipment should there be an emergency? because I know you guys get a draw from everyone. Is that something that we can bake in? I would say it would be as long as we're not violating existing contracts. That's okay. Okay, and

All right. We have a, well, we had a motion, right, to move it by Bermuda, seconded by Gilbert. Now there's an amendment.

They made amendments, so just as long as the motion says as amended.

Okay, so the motion is as amended. Commissioner Bermudez, you're good with that?

Okay, all right, so are we good? I'm sorry, Abby, your lead attorney is whispering in my ear, so. Did you say something that needed my attention? I apologize.

All right. So that said, I have no further discussion on the item. It is moved as amended with all the different amendments and motions and all the good stuff. We have a second by Commissioner Gilbert. Commissioner Steinberg, are you wanting to be recognized?

Yeah. All right. So clerk, let's call the roll. Hold on. Hold on.

So we can have a clarification of the, of the acreage that the County could potentially own just so we have it on the record. That's to the applicant.

All right, so Madam Attorney, because I'm just doing a quorum count of sorts. I don't think we have the sufficient members in the chamber at this time to take a vote based on requirements. I know that we need nine votes for this in general, and I can see it based on the history of this, and some have already said it. I don't have to formally officially say table it, but can I move on to the rest of the agenda and then come back to this at a later time? Yes, and then my question to you is because we do have a very long agenda and I know some folks do need to leave. If we don't get to this item

I want to try to get it to today, but just in case we're out of time. So, all right. That said, I know that we had a lot of good conversation, Commissioner Regalado. Thank you for all of that. The motions still stand and all of that. But we're going to move on to the rest of our agenda, just because I don't have enough members, I can see it, so. Commissioner Gilbert, you're recognized.

I'd just like to commend Commissioner Regalado on the work she put on this.

That's, thank you very much. Thank you. That's so cute. Is that a new congressman type of behavior? Sure is not- No, no, not at all.

He knows that if he doesn't thank me, I get upset later, so.

So cute. Positive reinforcements. Get upset now or get upset later, I love it. All right, let's move into public hearing, Madam Attorney or Mr. Attorney. If you can read all of the public hearing items, and once you do, I'll go ahead and open up public hearing.

Thank you to the attorney. At this time, we're going to open public hearing on all five items on our agenda. Dewey Knight, if you can please approach. Tangeler Dorsett, please approach. Carnell White, please approach. Sophia Amaya, please approach. I don't see anyone approaching. Public hearing is now open on our five numbered items on our agenda. To the clerk, we have a quasi-judicial item, 5T. We have a speaker. At the appropriate time, please swear in Ms. Sophia Amaya. Is Sophia Amaya present? Don't see Sophia Amaya. We'll see if she joins us during the public hearing. To those names that I

Thank you, Mr. White. Thank you so much. Mr. Dewey Knight, you are recognized.

Thank you, Mr. Knight. Last call for Ms. Sophia Amaya. Last call for Ms. Sophia Amaya. Public hearing is now closed to the attorneys. What items are being bifurcated?

I'll entertain a motion on the fives that were not bifurcated. Excuse me? Yes, Commissioner Seinberg.

5D is also bifurcated. A motion on the items not bifurcated. It's been moved. It's been moved. It's been seconded. Clerk, please call the roll.

All right madam attorney on the bifurcated items is a 5 a the first one. All right so that's bifurcated by Bermuda's.

But a commissioner must and you're recognized.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As most of you know, the late Commissioner Doran Rowe was a commissioner for District 2 for 12 long years. Like myself, he was a mental health professional and a social worker. So even before he was elected to the Miami-Dade County Commission, he's been providing lifeline, lifesaving services to his community. through the organizations that provided wraparound services to the residents of District 2. He served for 12 years, as I indicated. And then as a result of his legacy, the new Aquila Lake Branch Library was approved in 2008. So I'm honored to really support this leg

Thank you, and I'd like to share that the families here, you heard them. Commissioner Wohl was cherished by many members, so I hope that you support this, and thank you for those who co-sponsored.

All right, it's been moved. It's been seconded by commissioner Bermudez vice chairman. You're recognized. Oh. Go ahead, Bermudez.

Yeah, I just wanted to briefly say, because the families here from District 12 and the city of Doral to thank. I think this is a great day. Commissioner Rule was always very respectful to me when I was the founding mayor of Doral. The governor was always very kind to what became the city of Doral, was always very caring and listening to our argument. So I'm very supportive of this item and it's well deserved.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I too echo the sentiments that I've heard from my colleagues. I also would like to be listed as a co-sponsor. And thirdly, let me just simply say this to the family. Thank you for loaning to this great county, the Gov. It means a lot. He stood for great things for many of us. And the idea that we now will have his name on top of the library, right? If everyone can see, it will remind each and every last one of us that knowledge and opportunity are the two tentacles that the Gov actually provided for each and every last one of us who came through this community look

Thank you, Vice Chair. And as I recognize, Commissioner, are you trying to speak? Just keep in mind that you all should learn from Mr. Roll, what he used to say. Everybody, talk long, talk wrong. Commissioner Gilbert.

He also used to say he was going to take a skinny minute. Skinny minute, this is a skinny minute. I just want to thank Commissioner Bastian for actually bringing this item and thank the family. I knew Commissioner Rowe, the governor, I knew him. He was a good man who worked tirelessly with the community. He loved this community. He loved this county. I think this completely, this is overdue. This is fitting and it's overdue. Thank you very much for doing this. Thank you, Commissioner Bastian.

Chairman. Senator Garcia. Thank you Mr. Chairman, and thank you Commissioner Gilbert for reminding us about the governor. And he was an amazing, when I was at legislature I worked a lot with him on a couple different issues. And there's no doubt that he really did care about his community, loved his people, and fought tirelessly for them every single day. So whether you agreed with him or not, The one thing that you could be certain of is that he really did love his people. And Commissioner Bastien, thank you so much for bringing this before us, and please list me as a co-sponsor as well, than

In this case, we'd get co-sponsored all the way around. All the way around. All the way around. All right. Okay, all right, so with that, clerk, please, we have a motion, we have a second. With that, clerk, please call the roll.

All right, on 5F. I see but what is it I D 0, 5, D Steinberg pulled that I buy for K to go ahead, commissioner Steinberg on 5, D. In the spirit of the city minute, it's going to manage.

Thank you. I appreciate that, but the only thing I would add, and I've been requested this, this ordinance was a lot of work. And as many of you know, we were waiting for the state to really regulate it. This was done as a placeholder, as a state regulated, and unfortunately the governor vetoed. We had over a dozen meetings in Key Biscayne to make sure that everybody understood this. And the reason for this ordinance, because many of you know I'm a big supporter of micro mobility, but on February 14th, 2024, we had Megan Andrews died in Key Biscayne as a result of an accident. She was 66 and s

The only thing I would say is this is about the Rickenbacker which is unique as a street. So the speeds and everything on the Rickenbacker are very, very different from other county owned streets. So I would say it would be better to do something separately for other county owned streets because the Rickenbacker is a highway. And this is about the Rickenbacker. And that's why I said it's very particular to what it was created for.

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So I did pass legislation in the state that allowed for local governments to regulate micro mobility devices. And that is in statute now. It was amended into the transportation bill. So any municipality that wishes to do so can. It's specific. So to Commissioner Steinberg's question, Any municipality today under state statute can actually pass an ordinance. What Commissioner Regalado was saying is absolutely true. She and I both worked very hard because the village of Key Biscayne has banned micro mobility devices on their roads. But the one she's referring to is

The only thing I would add, unless I'm happy to work with you on an item, I would just say if we are going to bring something like an op-in similar to what I did with the peacocks, I think you need to establish parameters. And I would say a certain number of public meetings, outreach, a lot of things that are not in here. Because I did all those things before this, this has been working for a long time and this is an extension of an existing. So I'm happy to work on an item that creates a way for them to bring it in and to request that we extend their limitations to county roads. But I think t

All right, so move it. It's been moved. It's been seconded. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins for a question.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Is there a sister or a mirrored ordinance within our code related to micromobility devices that is not specific to Key Biscayne? Or is this the only ordinance in Miami-Dade County that specifically speaks to micromobility devices, electric bicycles, and motorized scooters?

Okay, so if another, how many municipalities do we have in Miami-Dade County, 32, 34? So if any of the 32 or 34 municipalities within Miami-Dade County want to avail themselves of this ordinance that we just spoke to, we have deaths, God forbid. Any other municipality suffers the way that key Biscayne has, we are not prepared to create some sort of an agreement to help them opt into this more easily. I'm confused as to the position that's currently being taken by the board. Why wouldn't we allow our municipalities to avail themselves to an ordinance that saves lives, that had a ton of work, an

If I could respond to that. What I'm saying is that there was a lot of public meeting and input and work with DDPW to come to this ordinance. It has very Rickenbacker specific. it doesn't speak to all the meetings and everything that came before the ordinance. So what I'm saying is I'm happy to draft an ordinance for cities to opt in, but it needs to have a lot of things that are not in this ordinance because this ordinance came after two years of working with Key Biscayne. So like I said, I'm happy to work with Commissioner Steinberg or whoever wants to do it to amend this ordinance in anothe

Thank you for that. To the attorneys, what would be the difficulty of the ordinance as it's written now allowing our municipalities to avail themselves via an opt-in or whatever the proper legal language is the way that Commissioner Steinberg just requested?

Okay, it would need to be amended to expand the applicability countywide or simply speak to the opportunity for existing municipalities to opt in should they desire to do so? I'm not trying to expand it countywide. That wasn't the question. The question was specific to what Commissioner Steinberg requested multiple times rather clearly.

So it wouldn't apply countywide unless municipalities elected to enter into some sort of interlocal agreement opting in, correct?

Hold on. Do you still have the floor? Are you done?

I do still have the floor, but I'm watching Commissioner Steinberg, and it doesn't seem as though that that reflects what she was trying to accomplish. I'm just trying to understand if there is a vehicle to accomplish what the commissioner specifically requested.

So to the attorneys, well, go ahead and answer that question. So the same way that you were saying we can amend it to say this applies countywide with an opt-in, we can amend it by saying not applying countywide. And we would have basically interlocals allowing for municipalities to opt in. So my question is specific. I'm asking you whether the inverse of what you proposed is possible. Instead of saying we want this to apply county wide, we want instead to give the municipalities by interlocal or expression of interest. We represent a lot of municipalities obviously that may want to opt in. Is

Absolutely. You proposed having the ordinance amended to apply countywide With an opt in by the municipalities, the commissioner that made the original request, took her head and said, that's not exactly what I was requesting. Instead, what I was requesting was language simply allowing specific municipalities to opt in should they desire to do so. So it's simply taking the proposal that you gave and creating the inverse of that proposal. My question is a simple one. Is that possible?

It is possible. Okay, so then what is the downside then of including that language in this ordinance, considering the lives that it saves, the work that it's done, applauding the work. I represent Palmetto Bay, Cutler Bay. What if they want to be included? I don't understand why we would need to wait months and months and months for that essentially can be accomplished here via a simple amendment, which is what I wanted to clarify through the attorneys whether or not that amendment was possible.

Right. We understand that. We completely understand that. I don't think that anybody is confused.

Thank you. To respond to that question, my concern is notice and litigation. So as we work through this, we dealt with a lot of individuals that did not agree with this ordinance. But we had a series of public meetings and we worked through it to ensure that the county would not enter into litigation as a result. There is a reason that the governor vetoed it. There is a group of humans who do not want this type of limitation to micro mobility. And while this gave some notice to the municipalities, it didn't give them the notice that an item speaking to a countywide would give. Also, if you ame

Hold on, Commissioner Gilbert, you're recognized.

Mr. Chairman- And Commissioner Koinigan will still have the floor if necessary, but- At the risk of agreeing with Commissioner Regalado twice, I think she's likely right on this. And I think that it actually came through the Transportation Committee. And so the reason why it passed through the Transportation Committee, was because, like it did, was because of its limited nature. Now, this board can broaden it if you like, but let's be clear, we do have a committee process for a reason. This broad of an item would have been treated differently in committee commission. Chairman, it would have be

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I agree with everything that's being said, but however, what the request is is an opt-in provision. That's what I was going to say. It's an opt-in provision, opting into the rules that are being established for the municipalities. I get what that is specific to a road. I get that it went through the committee process, but at the end of the day, we are representatives of the people. We speak for the people. You have used that line before, that we are the representatives of the people. I think it's incumbent upon the municipality itself that wants to opt in to do wha

Okay, so we hold on we have commissioner. There's an amendment, but it's not. Steinberg hasn't officially. Okay, there's a, there's an amendment, there's a 2nd amendment, but there's, there's a motion on the actual item itself. Right? So, as amended, but hold on, I have commissioner. I have Gonzales on the queue and then I'll go to Lopez and anyone else that Gonzalez.

Thank you Mr. chair and, you know, I do appreciate commissioner regular articles articulate. explanation of of the complexity of how this was brought forward i think it's something that it is very much needed however something that the county attorney's office well something that the county attorney said really caught my attention and that was that this was only applicable to county roads And so from what I understand, Commissioner Steinberg was requesting that the amendment apply if, and correct me if I'm wrong Commissioner Steinberg, if it passes through the municipality. And so I think that

Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So I just have a quick question. So in using the, I've been dealing with this as a state rep for Key Biscayne, but I have a question. In the case of Key Biscayne, it banned all micro mobility devices on their own streets. The only one that runs through the village is Crandon Boulevard. It is a county road. So despite whatever a municipality may or may not do, I believe the question here is about what to do with a county road that runs through a municipality, whether they do anything or they don't, right? I don't know, and this is a question to Commissioner R

Yes, it is specific to Key Biscayne as are the penalty amounts and the understanding of the speed based on the roads. That's what I'm saying. If we're going to do something that is broader than this, I'm happy to help draft something, but it would have to have different categories for different types of roads that have different speeds, different sidewalks, and you would have to have different pricing for the violations. This is built specifically for Rickenbacker and Crandon. If I may, I think I have an idea.

Yes, but give me one second. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, you're recognized.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. To the attorneys and to the sponsor of the item, section five of the item that we're discussing says enforcement by municipalities. A municipality may upon approval by the Board of County Commissioners of an inter-local agreement between the county and such municipality. Enforce the provisions of this section as it relates to roads within the boundaries of said municipality. The agenda item approving such interlocal agreement shall be sponsored by a district commissioner in whose district any portion of such municipality lies. So it's already in the ordinance. We're talki

Hold on, but I want to hear from the attorney. Yes, you will, but to the attorneys, is that accurate?

Chair, if I can explain. Commissioner Reggiano. And we have this issue. Several times I've brought items and we've had questions about the language of the ordinance. And that's because time and time again, our county attorneys tell us that we cannot draft something that is hyper specific to an area. That it must refer back to the entire code. And then get specific in the body. I am not doing anything that everyone doesn't do in every single item. In fact, when we suspended the CRA for Naranja that we're going to visit tonight, it had language that applied to everyone and then specified that th

All right, to the attorneys because now I want clarification. Because both are making a good argument. I mean, and it's not even an argument. One's making an argument, the other one's reading straight out of the item, which is very clear to me. So which one is it? Can it be done today per the item already? Or is it specific only and exclusively to Key Biscayne and Rickenbacker and all that good stuff, all those roads? Which one is it?

Okay, but that doesn't answer my question. Why would it need to be amended if it's already in the item?

Okay, perfect. All right, so that clarifies that it is not open to everyone even though it reads that it is, but it's tricky and you guys figured out- The applicability is what- All right, Commissioner Steinberg, you're recognized.

In case there's a hold, she's saying. Okay, so let's do this. So that works for me too, and that makes everybody happy. So let's take a vote on this item first, and if there's no further discussion on it, and then I'll entertain a motion from Commissioner Steinberg on If it exists, there may not be a hold on it, but if there is, waive the rules to. So with that- Move it. It's been moved by Commissioner Regalado, seconded by the Vice Chair. Clerk, please call the roll.

I thought when Mickey said for a skinny minute, it was going to be a skinny minute, but the answer is yes.

All right, now Commissioner Steinberg moves in the event necessary, but moves to, Jerry?

Chairman, point of order, yeah. If she just brought an item, then if there was a hole, her bringing an item would have eliminated the hold on- Somebody else might have a hold.

Okay. Second. So it's been moved, it's been seconded. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Show that being the case.

So Mr. Chairman, we just placed Steinberg in first place now.

On the whole list, if there is one. Yeah, we did. We did on that one item, so congrats to Steinberg. All right, so Vice Chair, do you want to take a point of personal privilege to recognize some of your interns? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chairman, today we have the future of America sitting here in this chambers and I'm going to ask those young ladies and young men who's actually interning in my office to stand up and be recognized. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the future of America, so stand up. These are our interns who are working in the community ensuring that things move. Mr. Chairman, I have the honor and privilege of actually representing these young individuals, but they represent the community and there are a total of 21 of them working out of our office. Each year we have at least 20 interns, and so each year we

Thank you, Vice Chair, and thank you all for being here today and being interns for the Vice Chair. All right, moving on with our list. I've got, is 5F next? Okay, so I'll entertain a motion on 5F. It's obviously bifurcated. It's been moved by the Vice Chair, seconded by Commissioner Lopez, and then Commissioner Regalado.

Just as a point of privilege, I just want to make sure that the attorneys had that vote for also 11A24, the two of them went together. I don't know if when they read it, they said that.

That's why we pulled it so that it could go together.

We'll take it in a second because I already have a motion and a second on 5F. And you're recognized, Regalado, on 5F as a bifurcating.

All right. We'll go to 5F and we'll come back.

We'll go right back to it, but I already have a motion and a second, so.

All right. So on 5F, I just want to mention something to the board just to give you some numbers. We have a lot of bond items that were added to this agenda. And I want to speak a little bit later specifically about the port one. But just to give you an idea on the number. If you combine all these items, you get in this agenda alone, we're drawing down or authorizing $1.7 billion. We have 5E, that is the transit for 35 million. We have 5F, 38 million for capital that we're discussing now. We have 5G, 35 million for general obligation. We have public facilities in 5H, 275 million. We have 5I, w

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Mr. Chair. Clerk, we're just not going to do this, because I knew when the mayor spoke, you were going to want to respond. We're good. Clerk, please call the roll.

All right. All right. 5G and 5H. Commissioner Regalado, you bifurcated both of them. I don't know if you want to speak on them separately or if they can.

G and 5H. I think it was you. So first, I'll entertain a motion on 5G and 5H. It's been moved by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, seconded by Commissioner Bastien. Commissioner Regalado, you're recognized.

I'm fine. I mean, I think the ad valorem is the bigger issue because of the impact that it has on the debt service. I think on these, we're paying down some of it, and we're still pulling down a lot. But I looked over the list, and it's not egregious. So happy to move it.

All right, so it's been moved, it's been seconded. Clerk, please call the roll on 5G and 5H.

All right, I'll entertain a motion on 5L. It's been moved by Commissioner Bastien, seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. And then I have Commissioner Bermudez and Orbis as bifurcating the item. Just to vote no? Just to vote no. Okay, clerk, please call the roll.

All right, I'll entertain a motion on five.

I mean, it was- Yeah, no, five aye was bifurcated.

Okay, five aye, I didn't have it on my list, but five aye? Okay, did you bifurcate that one? Yes, I did. Okay, we also need to go back and take that other vote, right? All right, so let's take that other vote that goes with, which is the one, what's the item that- 11A24. 11 a 24 is so it's been moved by Commissioner Regalado seconded by Commissioner Gilbert Is that a roll call? No, right. That's a voice vote all in favor signify by saying aye all opposed nay All right was 5i bifurcated It was not bifurcated. I don't show it as bifurcated, but it already passed.

I don't know what happened. I'm going to vote no. And I want to discuss it.

The thing is that already passed. So I, we need to reconsider the whole. Well, you could change your vote with, we could discuss it. I think you could change your vote with the clerk. Right.

However- It already passed, so we're not doing that. So can the commission, the question is, Jerry. Yes. Can the commissioner change her vote with the clerk?

Okay, so we could do that. I'm okay with that for purposes of the vote.

Right, but I also want to discuss it. So, yeah, I want to discuss it. I pulled it. I don't know what happened. I can show what I pulled. It's on my list. I even mentioned it when the Port Director was on here that I was going to talk about the item. So, I don't know where the disconnect is, but...

I'm not doubting it. I just, I'm not reopening... public hearing because some folks may have left already. So to the attorneys.

But we don't have to open public hearing.

She can still discuss it without me opening a public hearing. So a motion. Can you want to do a motion on 5A just so you could record your no vote? So a motion by Commissioner Regalado. Seconded by Steinberg. All in favor of that signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Okay, so that, please show Commissioner Regalado as a no vote.

Correct, and now do I need the item again? Okay, so now you can discuss- Thank you. Five I.

Five I. All right, so Five I, I just want to mention a few things on Five I that I find concerning. I understand that. We're retiring the outstanding commercial paper. I have no issue with the 200 million for that. This is a common vehicle and the interest rate is fine. My concern with this item, which is 700 in total is the 380 million for a series of projects. The projects, unlike many of the other items, do not have the amounts. If you go through the item, in exhibit A in particular, you can figure out what they are. Some of them we've heard about before. For example, the new birth in 10 an

He has to respond, we're waiting for the response over there.

Who's responding, to what? What was the question?

Is there a response to- On shore power. You could respond and then, yeah.

But what about the requirement for the return on investment in terms of the cost? There needs to be an analysis in terms of the cost.

All right so now 5, 0, I'll entertain a motion on 5, 0, is that the next one. It's been moved by Commissioner Cohen Higgins, seconded by Gilbert and then I have Orbis and Garcia as bifurcating commissioners. Yes.

I do want to state something on the record. So I had deferred this item twice and I understand it's quasi-judicial, but it's because it's done through administrative, it's an administrative item as I understand. And I just wanted to ensure that the residents that live adjacent to this property or this parcel were aware of what was coming to their neighborhood and that they had an opportunity to express any concerns. I understand that administration has reached out and notified them because it's very important for me for the constituents to know when a change like this is coming to their neighborhood. So with that, thank you. Thank you,

Thank you, Commissioner. And Commissioner Garcia. Okay. All right. Clerk, please. Yeah, are you supportive, Commissioner Orbis?

I'm not really, but from what I understand, it's quasi-judicial, so we can't. Yes, Commissioner. I'm okay with it. I'll be a no.

It's been moved and seconded, yes. That's it.

Okay. Five you. I'll entertain a motion on five you. It's been moved by Commissioner Gonzalez, seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. And Senator Garcia, you are, okay. Clerk, please call the roll.

All right, Mr. Madam Attorney, is that it for the public hearing items? All right, so I'm going to before we get into 2nd reading items, I'm going to pull some out of order from the police. I'm going to pull up. As I understand some folks are here for this and may have to go. I'm going to pull 11, a 14. 11, a 15, 11, a 16, 11, a 17 and 11, a 20, which are the charter review ballots. And I have some pooling commissioner site. I'm going to go ahead and take them up, I guess, one by one. Let's see how I try this. So, Commissioner from District 4, you're one of the pooling commissioners. Okay.

Okay. So, I'll take a vote on each one. And D7, Commissioner from District 7, you're recognized on 11A14. Regalado?

Flipping through. By the way, I have an airport item. I know that they're waiting here, so I hope we can take it up soon. There's still a pending airport item.

We're going to get to all of them. I'm going to even try to get to Kelly Tractor, I promise.

All right. So this was 14. You could just do it by the state statute. 11, 8, 14.

11A14, yes. It's a charter review ballot recommendations from the task force.

They were added late, so it's not on this one.

The length of district residency to run for county commission.

I'll go back to 11A14 in just a second. 11A15, Commissioner, Vice Chairman, you're the one pooling commissioner on 11A15. You're recognized.

How is the- Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just wanted to hear from the administration and or the sponsor of the item, what is it that this item seeks to do?

You're recognized. The administration and or the attorneys are recognized to respond on 11A15 what this item seeks to do.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to the county attorney for that answer. My follow up question is, is it the same in Broward County and Palm Beach? Do they have six months, or do they have a year, and how are we looking to the south of us in Monroe County?

My next question is also to Will there be a financial impact to the county as relates to this particular item?

It seems like they're nodding their heads.

Do you guys want to actually acknowledge and say no?

Mr. Kerbel, come on up. You're up. We always love to have you in our chamber. You're recognized to answer the Vice Chair's question. Question specific. Shall this charter review recommendation have a fiscal impact on the county?

You're still an attorney, man. No matter what, you can't take the lawyer out of you.

And thank you, Mr. Chairman, and for the record, we love you, Dennis. Thank you. We will always love you, man. He's one of us. So Dennis, the next question is, do we know what's happening to the north of us, to the south of us, and to the west? Are the counties doing this exact same thing? Is it six months, is it a year? Where are we?

It's going from six months to a year. Something or somebody had to trigger the thought, right? And I'm sure it's a state law or something there, but I'm just trying to figure out why now? And I understand you want to get it on the ballot in time, but specifically, why this? What happened? Did something trigger this?

All right, Commissioner Regalado, you're recognized.

Yeah, so on 11A14, I know that there were- We're on 11A15, sorry.

I have moved on, yeah. You're not a- No, I'm not pulling. You're not a pulling commissioner, okay. So all right, with that, I have a motion by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. On 11A15, I have a second by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. No. Show item 11A15 passed with one no vote. All right, now back on 11A14, Commissioner from District 7, you're recognized.

Thank you. And I want to thank everyone who participated in the charter review. They were interesting meetings to watch. And I know that one of the things that was mentioned was either increase the time or the pay. And I wish we would have chosen increase the time. And the reason for that is ANIPA takes ten years. um and eight years is really not enough for someone to finalize a large-scale project and what's happening to us time and time again is that whenever you're at the end of something someone hits the the reset button um i think that the salary on the ballot with proposed Property tax r

All right. I get it. I'm going to not say what I wanted to say.

Well, I mean, that's a great talking point, but we get paid $6,000 a year. And I'm happy to exempt myself from it moving forward. But what's right is right. And this is supposed to be a part-time job, and it's full-time, overtime, and all the times. So I don't know. I mean, it's a great for campaign and all that. But the reality is, you know, it's not realistic. So we're the largest county in the state of Florida. We have a 1617 billion dollar budget. We do. It's not 13 or 14 with 16, $17 billion. We have paid $6,000 a year. Uh, commissioner, I'm going to recognize you first because you're the

So thank you, Mr. Chair and to Mr. Kerbel, the recommendation from the task force regarding the timeframe for commissioners, you all recommended that we bring that when.

Okay, and that's reflected in the report that's also on the agenda today, correct? Okay, thank you. So that's coming in the future. And I want to be clear regarding the salary commission that was recommended by the charter review task force. It's entirely possible that the commission can recommend a lower salary, is that correct?

Commissioner Bermudez, you're recognized.

First of all, I want to thank Mr. Corbell and the Charter Review Commission for taking time. Because I actually work, I didn't have time to watch your commission meetings. But I thank you very much for taking the time to do public service and come up with this. We are not approving a salary increase here. We are putting it to the voters. the chairman correctly pointed out that most other counties including the one directly to the north which has part-time commissioners uses population to pay themselves and they get a really I'm not going to talk about what they get, because they get a hell of

Yeah. And on that note, before I recognize commissioner Gilbert, thank you Dennis for, for leading the efforts in this charter review task force. That is a good point. Uh, and the vice chair, I believe the vice chair was redondo, right? That's correct. My appointment, uh, speaker designate for the Florida house. So both very busy folks and you all gave your time in addition to all of the other charter review task force members that, uh, participated. So thank you all for, for your time on this. Uh, this is something that we do every several years and it's very important for our county. So appr

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's my understanding that this will go on the ballot in 2028?

No. The ones we're discussing are now. There was a question about term limits being extended, and that will be on the ballot in 2028. All of these are going to be on the ballot this year.

Mr. Chairman, I don't have an objection to letting the voters decide. I don't have an objection to letting the voters decide. What we did in Miami Gardens, my city, is our charter was actually modeled after the county's charter on salaries, and we put salaries in the charter. On my way out, I actually sponsored the item so that it would affect them, not because I needed more money, but I needed to structurally make leadership and public service available to more people. So we had this conversation because we have it in the context of the people who are here, and we're all elected officials, we

Thank you, Commissioner. I got Lopez and then Senator Garcia.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question for Dennis. Dennis, what was the genesis of this item in the commission? I'm just curious.

So it was in keeping with what Commissioner Gilbert said. Yes. That there was concern that not just anyone could serve as a commissioner because of the $6,000 annual salary. Interesting. And was there consensus on the commission?

Was there public input regarding this particular issue?

Do you recall anyone opposing the idea of a salary commission? No. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Garcia. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't doubt anything that Commissioner Gilbert said. He said it so eloquently, and I think you're absolutely right. If you want to have more people interested in running and I think we need to make sure that they're compensated appropriately. However, when we decided to run, this board decided to run, we knew what the compensation package was. So I think I have no problem for it going to the voters. However, it should be something should not be self serving. And for me, when would this go into effect?

All right, so the only way that I would be able to support something like this is if it does not go into effect until after the current board is no longer here. Because I just find it a little self-serving for us to vote for something. And it goes to the voters. I get it. I understand Commissioner Bermudez and I understand everyone's debate. But it needs to be something that should not affect me or anyone on this board because we When we ran for office, we ran with the understanding of what we were being compensated for. So that's my only objection to the item. And I hate to vote against an it

All right. Commissioner, well, the Vice Chair. No?

Thank you. I have a question, Dennis. You had the two issues and the reason that you all suggested that the term limits should go later is so that it wouldn't apply to us, right? So I'm glad that that was one of the conversations was the applicability. I maintain that we should consider putting term limits and then having it apply to the next round of humans. I think we could still do that. And I agree with Senator Garcia that it's interesting that the logic that was used on the term limits was the Board of County Commissioners should not put something on the ballot that would extend their tim

So I want to call a vote. But here's the problem to Commissioner Bermudez's point. about sound bites. And unfortunately, those that report the sound bite often don't do due diligence. They don't put in the work. For lack of better terms, they're often lazy. You know, it's easy. Yeah, I'm talking about, he's one of the ones I'm talking about. Here's the thing. It's easy to say that, that this shouldn't apply to me. I would support it, but the reality is that before my time on the board, I don't know, four years ago or so, there was an item on this board that passed to increase benefits to commi

Yeah, so I was listening to you guys, and I have news for you. Very few people believe that we only make $6,000 a year, very few. And I agree with Commissioner Gilbert on this, because not only that we need to make sure we open the doors for other folks, and Commissioner Gilbert mentioned teachers. organizers and all, but we forgot the young leaders. Look at these young leaders sitting here. I mean, we would like to create a space where they would decide to become a commissioner. We need young voices. We need to open spaces for young voices. So I'm comfortable with the fact that the voters wil

all right anyone else see none clerk uh actually all in favor signify by saying aye aye all opposed nay show the item pass with a couple nays but show the item pass all right you got them all right 11 a 16 i got commissioner from district 4 and commissioner from district 8. commissioner from district 4 you recognized just a novel

Commissioner from District 8, you're recognized.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Commissioner Steinberg. I do have a brief amendment to the item that hopefully will address potentially Commissioner Steinberg's concerns or any others. If the attorney can please read the amendment.

Thank you. And that amendment came at the request of the League of Cities, indicating that apparently certain dates had already been published for their upcoming municipal elections. And so we wanted to amend it to allow it to have a later start date so they wouldn't have to republish those election dates. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I move 11A16.

Okay, it's been moved, it's been seconded as amended. Oh, and then Steinberg, you're recognized.

All right, so- I'm totally confused. I mean, truthfully- May I ask a question?

This is totally confusing because- Not following the skinny minute. Listen, if I may, Mr. Chair? My question is, because now I'm very confused, is it our job to make sure that somebody in a municipality wants to run for one of these positions is protected? I don't think so. With all due respect to the League of Cities, Commissioner Gilbert and I have been president of the League of Cities, I don't think it's our job, personally. Number two, I'm going to support the amendment because there seems to be a reason the League has spoken to Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, but I mean, this is basically sa

All right, so we got that. All right, Commissioner Bermudez.

Yeah, okay, now I understand. But again, cities have their own charters. I just want to be clear. And if anybody in a municipality, it is not our responsibility to change their charter. It is the citizens of those cities, as they did in Miami Gardens, as they did in Doral, to change their charter after the fact, if they so choose, through the vote of the voters. And just one last thing. Commissioner Steinberg, the most important part of our charter, I believe, is the Citizens' Bill of Rights. Being one of the few lawyers that successfully sued the county over the Citizens' Bill of Rights, I th

All right, so we have it, we have it moved by commissioner as amended. We have a second by commissioner. It wasn't meant you amended it.

So it was moved by you as amended seconded by commissioner. All in, are we good? All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Nay. Show that item passed. All right, 11A17, I have Steinberg, Regalado, and Garcia. Let's start with Steinberg.

Commissioner from District 7, you're recognized.

I think that, to Mickey's point, the situation with the annexation is already complicated enough. I feel like we're doing another thing. And I've said this before, if we want to do a moratorium, let's do a moratorium. If we want to change the rules, change the rules. But creating yet another thing that's going to further complicate this situation. Again, we had this issue before term limits where these things lingered for years and years and years. This just seems to me to be another way to further complicate the situation. So I'm a no on this one.

Yeah. Thank you for that. Commissioner from Senator.

Thank you, Mr. Commissioner. For the same reasons, I think that when we look at annexation, I think the process is complicated enough. We have safeguards and hurdles in place. This is just adding even more hurdles, making it more difficult for municipalities to try to annex. So I do think that this is an overreach and putting this in the charter will make it even that much more difficult for municipalities to try To create annexation. So I, uh, a two will be a no on this one.

Thank you, Senator. Um, I have commissioner from district six.

Thank you, Mr chair. I have a question for Dennis. How are you? Um, what was the rationale from the task force for removing it from the planning advisory board and creating the separate boundary commission?

I have Commissioner from District 12. Then I'm going to Juan, and then the Vice Chair.

Mr. Chair, thank you. I was going into this, but Commissioner Steinberg has convinced me to go in the other direction with her points. Let me tell you, and Commissioner Orbis correctly pointed out, you know why replacing the Planning Advisory Board. When I was Mayor of Dorado, the Planning Advisory Board voted six to one. to either not incorporate or to move forward and let the two cities duke it out in the county then, give the owners a opportunity to at least weigh in. And I appreciate Commissioner Regalado, who actually came up with an ordinance subsequent to that, that at least took a non-

No, I know, I've heard they're not going to have it, but what I'm trying to say is that that's the reality. And sometimes we sit here because, I mean, really, it brings headaches to all of us to a certain extent. And I agreed with what Commissioner, now Ambassador Cabrera, proposed. Because the business owners don't have a say, and they own properties. The business owners don't have a say. And in some cases, by the way, including in Sweetwater, just want to be clear, the millage rate goes up higher than another municipality. And I represent Sweetwater, so I'm happy for them. God bless them. Bu

Mr. Chairman? Yes. So, all right. I have, hold on. I'm going to add you to the list, Commissioner, but I've got District 1, and then I have the Vice Chair, and then Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Mr. Chairman, I'm just doing some rough analysis

First of all, if the people to my left can stop talking, I see airport people over there. Your airport items are gone. If you all cannot be quiet in the chambers, leave the chambers. Can we do that? Mr. Chair, a rough count would seem like there are a lot of no's on this item. If we could just let this dead horse die.

I'm good with that. Are we good with that? Are we good with that? Vice Chair, everybody that's pending? All right. So it's been moved by Senator Garcia, seconded by Commissioner Lopez, just for a vote purpose. Are you good with that, Vice Chair? Like just calling the vote. All in favor signify by saying aye. Thank you. I mean, it's not to kill it. It's a vote. You could kill it. To pass it. Right now, it's to pass it. If you're in favor of approving the item, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. The nays have it. So this charter review task force item does not exist. Does not move forward.

Just as a point of personal privilege on this, I think that we should all consider some of the things that were mentioned here. Because for example, instead, and we've talked about this before, JC obviously gets very triggered when we talk about this issue. But we've talked about how the applications should speak to the broader issue and not just the area and the fiscal impact. And I can tell you when South Miami came with an application that they wanted to take Daedaline, I said no. So I think we need to take some of these ideas and maybe incorporate them into our process.

Thank you, Dennis, I appreciate it. All right, and then 11820. I'll entertain a motion on 11820. It's the charter review. Hold on. I have a motion by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, seconded by Commissioner Orbus. You're recognized, D7.

Thank you. I have a friendly amendment that I think might help. So in my prior life as a school board member, I worked on advertising at our schools. And one of the biggest complaints that Miami-Dade County Public Schools receives, and that I still receive as a county commissioner, are the horrible banners that the school district puts around the schools. Everybody hates them. I was against them. I tried to limit them while I was there, and it is a constant issue. I appreciate that we're going to do some advertising in our parks because we want to increase revenue. But I do not want to have th

Yeah, so Commissioner Regalado, I agree, I can't stand it. All offenses in my district, I don't know if it's an unincorporated thing or it happens everywhere. Everywhere. It's ridiculous. So that was something that I actually discussed with the attorneys to add in here. Purposely left it out to have it as a matter of policy of this board if it gets approved by the voters. So as a matter of policy, this board, this is just to open up so that the advertisement could exist. Really the intent is digital. is not banners. I don't want full of banners. It irks me, but I want it to be a matter of poli

I appreciate that, but I think people will vote against this if that is not clarified. Because so many people hate the banners around the schools that I think when they see parks and advertising, that's going to come up. And while I appreciate that we do the policy afterwards, I think it's going to hurt its ability to pass.

I mean, look, again, it was part of something I discussed with the attorneys, and then we opted to take it out. I'm not entirely opposed to it. I don't want to limit something that i certainly want to limit a thousand banners on the fence that i do want to limit but i i don't want to limit the put the potential of one banner or two banners at a baseball field if they're sponsoring a game or something like that for that so that by putting it in the charter i think it it kind of prohibits us from that type of policy i'm with you on the intent of what you're saying i just don't know that we want

My friendly amendment would be just to speak to the fencing and maybe a percentage because- Do you have something drafted? No, but I mean, because if there is fencing, they would be like, you can't cover more than 25% of the fence. And that way you could put a banner, but you can't wrap a park.

I'm fine with that. That'll be a friendly amendment. Listen, I don't want banners at all. I mean, I would still like, so I guess here's the question, if we do that, Can we still, as a matter of policy of this board, come back later and say, we don't want any banners on fences at all? Can we go stricter than the charter amendment? Okay, perfect. All right. So I'm okay with that language of no banner advertisement to exceed 25% of banners. Linear footage.

It's the fence. The issue is the fence. So I think you have to specifically speak to the fence because that's what the voter's going to think about. They're going to think of the school district and the fence.

So no advertisement shall be in the form of fence banners encompassing over 25% of exterior fencing. Some version of that. You want to clean that up?

Absolutely. Let me just get input. Start doing that. Let me get input from the rest of the commissioners in case they want to add stuff to it too. I'm open to Commissioner Steinberg.

And I would, I would, I'm going to go, I'm going to get there. So, look, I respect that commissioner. I understand. Look, this is, this is very simple for me. I'm trying to, I thought of this to come up with revenue sources in a time when obviously property taxes are being reformed. And it's a talk of the town county parks will be probably 1 of the high highest most. Impacted departments in our county and obviously it's so important to our community. And it's funny you said that because 1 of the points you said, because. I actually the original form and I amended it in committee. The original

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So I don't have any county parks in my district, unfortunately. But I want to caution, I have had a lot of issues in my district with digital signs and the way the residential communities view them. So you may want to consider after, should this pass during the implementation of this to potentially exclude digital signs. A lot of our county parks are in residential areas. And you just have to see what that looks like at night with the lights. You'll have the same problem I had in my district with just digital signage in the urban area and how it was impacting my reside

Thank you, Commissioner. And the intent is actually, in fact, to have digital signs is the intent. But it's not the issue that you're having. It's not the big billboards at all. It's more like the kiosks that you see in Coral Gables and Brickle, little small kiosks throughout the park that actually serve multipurpose. It's not just an advertisement mechanism. That will be the revenue generator. but it also has access for you to dial 911 or emergency service, shall your phone run out of battery. You can actually charge your phone in some of them. It kind of tells you like you're standing here a

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And just as up to Commissioner Lopez's point, the city of Miami opted out of Lady Bird. It's a very different situation. We do not have an opt out of Lady Bird. So irrespective of this, we cannot do the things that the city of Miami does. When we talk about digital signing, it's a very different conversation to the Chair's point. It's about wayfinding, similar to what we've approved at the underline that provides people with information and then some advertising. Our rules are a lot different from the City of Miami. So when we say digital signage, it's very, very differen

Madam Mayor, let me finish with the board if that's okay, or did you want to input on some of the stuff? Yes, of course.

Absolutely, no, no, we're not stopping this conversation until we do hear from you all. Let me just finish with the board and then we'll go. Senator Garcia.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate what you're trying to do here. I get this. We are in a time where we're having financial constraints, and it becomes more difficult, and we need to try to raise some monies, and I get that. That's admirable. But one of the issues that I do have is look, we still can put up banners and so forth on the sponsorships, but it's just the advertisement. We live in a world right now where it's hyper advertisement. Everywhere we go, everywhere we look, someone is shooting something at us, trying to sell something at us. I find that our parks should be our sanctuari

I understand, Senator, and listen, I do understand what you're saying, and I agree with a lot of it. I mean, in fact, some of those concerns is kind of like what Regalado was speaking to, right, of the banners and keeping it as a sanctuary. The difficulty is I don't think it's that per se. I think this is the more regulated thing that this board could govern. So I do hope that I could earn your support on it, but I understand. And I'm not calling out the atomic bomb here, but some of these parks and or certainly their programs can cease to exist if we don't start to monetize the different opti

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And first of all, let me just publicly say thank you for allowing the modification of the original language. The modification that you made allowed for the funding that's captured now to be used in all parks throughout the county. So I take my hat off to you on that. Secondly, I'm not quite sure if we will have the same number of interests in certain districts in this county to advertise at certain parks. The demographics are different. The impact on revenue would be different. But more than anything, there are a majority, not the majority, but there are quite a few pa

Thank you, Vice Chair. Madam Mayor. Thank you.

Sure, Christina, and as you do, and feel free to do that, the attorneys have come to tell me they have an amendment prepared based on regular those concerns. It's somewhere in the middle of exactly what Regalado said and probably what you're about to say. So I think it may cover what you're about to say, but go ahead and say it anyway. Okay. Then we'll hear the final verdict of the lawyers on what they recommend.

Thank you, Director. So if the attorneys can read up an amendment that they have that I think will give ease to Commissioner Regalado's concern, and I'm okay with it. Go ahead.

Second. It doesn't say the fence thing on the charter, so it still kind of consists of the same issue of the voters may not be too clear on it but it clearly states that we can't do anything until this board adopts guidelines so it's not that it's going to happen automatically once it passes and then if we don't take action we have to take action and adopt an ordinance surrounding that before they can go out and advertise

I appreciate that, but my issue is that my residents absolutely hate the ads on the fences. And to Christina's point, the tournaments, that's not an ad, it's just an event that's happening there. It's not advertisement, so I don't think that that would impact that. But I can't support it with that. And honestly, I don't think it'll pass without speaking to this issue, because the advertising on school sites is so hated by so many residents. So I want it to pass, which is why I think we need to deal with this issue. Because every resident that I've spoken to about advertising in our parks, thei

So again, I'm open to it. I'm open to, but what I'm hearing is it's too specific. I am okay with what Regalado is saying. But I understand that it's restrictive. And so, listen, if it doesn't pass and the voters don't see the benefit of private. Revenue to offset a shortfall of taxpayer dollars. We could only we could only take the horse. If they don't want to drink the water, we can't force them to. So I'm comfortable with that amendment. Gilbert, I'd like to call a vote on it. You may, go ahead.

Mr. Chairman, thank you. Just a couple points. First, while I appreciate your voters might not be okay with that, I don't know that I've heard that complaint. We've had advertising around parks and schools in Miami Gardens for a while now also. So we haven't heard that complaint. That's the first thing. The second thing is everything has to be relative to the other thing. So we're going to have no money for parks. Are they okay with higher rental fees? Are they okay with higher participation fees? The things that we're actually using the money for. Yeah, so in an ideal world we wouldn't do it,

All right, so moved. It's been seconded commissioner. A lot of you still know, right? Okay. So as amended, not as amended. No, remove the amendment. All right. All in favor signify by saying, aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

Chair, if I may, I was advised by the county attorneys that I had to move to reconsider 5-0. Yes, you may. So I'll let Mr. Rabionet clarify that.

Show 5-0 reconsidered by Commissioner Orbis, seconded by Commissioner Gonzalez. All in favor of the reconsideration, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show it reconsidered. Madam Attorney.

All right, is there any action that needs to be taken by the commissioner at this time outside of the reconsideration? All right, thank you very much. We're on to second reading.

We have an airport item, if we could do it real quick. Yes, if I could have the attorneys read the airport motion.

You can read it, go ahead. Aviation item.

Mine. An item or a motion? A motion. Motion, sorry. Motion. Oh, one second. We'll get that.

Mr. Chairman, before we get there, can I just recognize my interns? Yeah. Can we recognize all of them? We have two right here.

We have... Are they from your YEP or these are separate?

No, because they're leaving. They have to go back to the district and get some work done.

But these are separate from youth engagement programs? Yes, sir. Yeah, recognize them. Go ahead.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We'd like to recognize and thank Allison Reyes and Alain Sanchez for their help and support in our office and our internship program. So these two great kids are right back here.

All right, I like it. Thank you so much, guys. That's worth it. So are the youth engagement program students, are they all over? Can you all stand up? All right. All right. You can stay standing up for a second. So this is the second year that we have the youth engagement program ran by our intergovernmental affairs team. I see Henry here. I see Sam here. I see a few. I don't know where Alina is. But, you know, it's what, like 25, 26? We got... We couldn't keep up. We got over 50 applications this year, and I told them this when I went to speak to them last week. But you're fortunate and shoul

Thank you, Commissioner. I think, Senator, yeah?

Congratulations. This is a great deal, and it gets these kids involved in government understanding what they can do if they actually speak up. And I just think you want to have the best one that you have in there from District 13. District 13 is the best one. Jose Garcia, you're there. God bless you. So thank you so much, and congratulations. Take a shout out. Come on, guys.

They're all wonderful, look at them cheering on.

I question that, it's not district 13, it's not the best one.

It's not, it's 12, is it 12? I want to be clear. They're all really so bright, and I mean that, I'm not just being nice.

They're all the same, that's not true. They're all good, they're all good. That's not true, not everyone's the same. That's the nice thing to say. Some parents will tell you that, but no, not everybody's the same. Everyone's loved and cared for, but different. Yeah, I know, I know, right? But no, listen, and you're right, Senator Garcia's experience in the legislature, such as Lopez and McGee, who stepped out, that this is something that the state legislature does as the page and messenger program. All my kids, all three of my kids have done the program for several years in the state legislatu

All right, so it's been moved by Commissioner Regalado, seconded by... Commissioner Lopez any discussion on the motion seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye aye all opposed nay show that motion passed thank you all right congratulations any other motions we've got we already had the reconsideration we have the motion so now on to second reading items do I have Does the attorney need to read all the items? Yes, yes. Okay, go ahead.

All right, so can I have a motion on the remainder of the items? It's been moved by Commissioner Gonzalez, seconded by Commissioner Orbis. And clerk, please call the roll.

All right, Commissioner Lopez, you're recognized on D5.

So the county attorney has a motion to read into the record.

Please read Commissioner Lopez's motion.

All right, so short move by Commissioner Lopez as amended.

Mr. Chairman, I would like to put my comments on the record because of this. So I don't know if everyone has been following. In the urban area, we have very little green space. These two parcels that I'm removing from the RTZ zone is because they are the traditional and Alan Morris Park in Brickell. There was a bone of contention around what would be happening to those two parcels. In particular because they have been used as a park over the years. This will return it back into the, I'm not accepting them into the RTC. They'll go through the city of Miami's permitting process. I think the real

That is- All right, so it's been moved, it's been seconded by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. All in favor of that item as amended, signify by saying aye. I'm sorry, yeah, I was getting there, sorry. Clerk, please call the roll.

All right, 7E, I'll entertain a motion on 7E. It's been moved by Commissioner Gonzalez, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. Commissioner from District 7, you're recognized.

Thank you. I just had a question for Lourdes on this, because I remember that we did some of this already, and the City of Miami actually is now copying what we did. So I think this is codifying some of the things that already exist. So Lourdes, what's new here? Correct. Just so we can put it on the record.

That's exactly what it is. It's codifying a lot of the things that we do already. to make sure it can't be changed.

Okay, all right, because I was like, when I read it, I was like, we actually do this already.

We're codifying all of it and maybe adding a couple little things, but yes, they're currently implementing some of it. I don't know that they actually always keep it to the one day. Sometimes it goes two, three, four days, but yes, we're codifying it and making it straight to 24 hours.

All right, then that's fine. Well, I'm happy to support it.

All right, so we have a motion, we have a second. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Mr. Roll call. I'm going too fast here. Clerk, please call the roll.

All right. Madam Attorney, bypassing for a minute the discussion items, can we move into the pool list? Then we'll go back to discussion items afterwards.

8F1. 8F1, light speed, and what did I pull?

Okay, and I'll release 11825. I just wanted to co-prime it. I was going to add some stuff to it. Right, did I have an amendment prepared? No?

So I'll release it with a co-sponsorship, 11825. Then Senator Garcia is releasing 8F1.

Eight and eight. Okay, great. And then Bermudez?

I think it's 982, if we may ask. 985, I'm sorry. 95, you're releasing? Which is, I'd release it if, I'd like to co-sponsor it with Commissioner Koenig and co-prime it because that is something that came about with a combination of something in our district and her district. So if I may, I'll release it. I just wanted to co-prime it.

You want to co-prime it. Okay, is that okay for him to co-sponsor it?

Okay, all right. So it's been released and co-primed. All right, can we entertain a motion on. 8 of 1. 9, 8, 5, 11, 8, 25 and there was another one Jerry 8 and 8, 8, and 8, okay, it's been moved by so by Lopez second by Gonzales on favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. show the item show those four past all right um 2b5 cbo report card uh commissioner from district five you're recognized

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So I just wanted to say that I'm grateful for the information that was given to us, but it's not what I was looking for at all. So here's what I was looking for when it comes to CBO funding. I was looking for the name of the organization, how much money they receive federally, state, and locally. And how many years they've been receiving funding. I mean, I think that this was a good start, but it is missing so much information that I'd like to work with the administration. I think at least how I read the resolution that was passed that generated this report, there was

Director Baker, you're recognized for a response.

Does that item show me complete details, the number of years that we've been funding them, where they get their funding? That's what I'm looking for.

So I guess to help us during the budget, even though I know the mayor has kept the CBOs harmless, I still think that we have to understand what are our priorities as a commission? What do we want to fund? And in order to make those decisions, we need to understand every single CBO that is funded and where they're getting their money. How much do they get from the federal government? How much do they get from the state government? What have we been funding them? How many years have we been funding them? How many people do they serve? I mean, I know this was a big item of discussion in the last

Okay, well, I appreciate that. I just remember that when we fund things, like I've had CBOs say to me, if you don't fund me, then I will lose the matching funds. from the federal grant that we have, right? So those are important decisions to make because obviously we're able to maximize funding from other sources to be able to fund. But I still look at a lot of this as what are the priorities that we want to be funding? What areas? Is it vulnerable populations? Within that, is it elderly and young children? I mean, for me to make a decision, It is very difficult based on what I have, but I wil

Thank you, madam mayor commissioner from district eight on two B five. And I'm going to go ahead and take up item 14 B two as well together. So,

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the commissioners that requested this report. I believe it was Commissioner Orbis and Commissioner Garcia and Commissioner Gonzalez to allow us to see where these legacy CBO dollars are going and how they're being spent. On 2B5 particularly, there are a number of CBOs that are color coded with both yellow and red, indicating five or more instances of noncompliance. And or receiving a suspension that has since been resolved or any number of instances of noncompliance that merit contract or payment suspension that are not resolved. Are those yellow and red

Thank you, and I'm glad that you're pleased to report that. I, however, am looking at this report carefully for those that are non-compliant in any way, especially when funding is as tight as it is. I find it fascinating that there would be any non-compliance, much less instances higher than five. And so I'll be taking a close look at those as we move into our budget. But thank you for the explanation regarding what we have included in our proposed new annual budget moving forward. Nothing further, Mr. Chair.

okay um commissioner orbis then d7 thank you mr chair um i'm going to refer to 2b5 the report card so in the memo it doesn't specify what constitutes a violation so what constitutes a violation for these organizations and why is the threshold How is that decided, that they are allowed to do five violations before they get action taken against the corrective action?

Okay and is it per fiscal year? Yes. The violations are they Could it be five violations in a year or is it every time they apply? How do you keep track of that?

But what's the corrective action? Is complying with what they were missing? Is it submitting paperwork? What is the corrective action?

And is there, Mr. Chair, if I may continue, is that okay? Is there a certain point where you say this organization has not complied, we are no longer going to recommend funding for them? Or are they allowed to continue having violations and correcting them over and over and continue receiving funding from the county?

So is it like three strikes you're out? How is it?

Okay, so continuing the example of that organization, I don't know which one it is. Would they be allowed to reapply in the next fiscal year or are they done receiving? Do they have to start over? How does it work?

Okay. So I think it would be helpful, as Commissioner Lopez said, and I think Commissioner Cohen-Higgins said, to have some of that information as we go into the budget season, to have that included in the report or in the information that we're considering looking at these CBOs. Very good. Thank you, Mr. Wall.

Thank you. And look, I appreciate what we were provided. I just have two recommendations very similar to what other folks are mentioning. First, I think we should have a distinction for noncompliance. So if it's noncompliance for not providing financials, that's very different from noncompliance for not sending a form or sending a form late. So I would appreciate if we broke the noncompliance into ministerial and actionable because that would give us a little bit more information. I'm more concerned with a nonprofit that is not providing financial information or programming information or atte

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Mr. Wall, for everything you've done and continue doing the great work you do. Just a quick question as it relates to the report. What does it mean in terms of the color coding that we're seeing here? Are we saying that many of the legacy CBOs that you engaged with are in compliance, non-compliance, or is there a mixture?

And thank you so much. So I ask that question because- Can we lower down? Thank you. I ask that question because in reviewing this memo, it's almost as if this is a vindication for the CPOs who were pretty much tarnished. With the perception that CBOs are taking monies and are not being in compliance with the county's requirements. But it's also a great indicator that not only should we continue the funding and continue watching over these CBOs to ensure that they do the right thing. But it's also the very reason why I stated before and I'll say it again, that CBOs in Miami-Dade County should

all right so we've got commissioner bermudez i'm just gonna i would like to make sure that i agree with commissioner lopez a thousand percent and i believe that uh we need those numbers so i hope that whatever you give her and give uh commissioner orbits for the committee that you also provided because i i don't have a problem with cbo's i do think that we have a whole department dedicated which is amazing to me but the bottom line is you do have to monitor them, make sure that they're doing what they're supposed to do. And I do believe that they should have, as Commissioner Lopez said, we got

All right, so I'm entertaining a motion now on to be five. And 14 be too it's been moved by the vice chair second by commissioner Lopez on favor signify by saying aye aye all opposed nay show to be 5 and 14. B to pass all right I'm going to take up item 8 K 1 of the pulling commissioner for a floor amendment if the county attorneys can read it. That's a key one.

make conforming changes to the resolution and title all right I'll entertain a motion on that on my behalf the vice chair moves it seconded by Commissioner Gonzalez on favor signify by saying aye all opposed nay all right next up I got I got eating commissioner, so I'm going to skip one. I'm going to skip, let's go to 2B8. 2B8, Commissioner from District 5, are you here? Okay, all right, no, Commissioner from District 8 is not here?

Okay, so- I can take mine, which one you have?

You want to take, okay, let's take up 2B6.

It's really quick. We talked about this at transit committee, so I just wanted to mention it again. I appreciate the report on the electric buses, but I really think that we need an update of what's happening with the litigation and the bankruptcy and all of that.

We have a discussion item on it too, so we can- Yeah, yeah, so happy to move it. Okay, it's been moved by Commissioner Regalado, seconded by the Vice Chair. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show it passed. 2B10, Commissioner from District 7. 2B10.

I appreciate the report. The only thing that I think we should consider when we do this report is also evaluating our lobbyists. We changed the way that we hired our lobbyists this last time around, and there were a lot of expectations. And I know that it was a difficult session, but we've had two difficult sessions. So I think moving forward, we should have a postmortem and really look at, how people did so that we can use that to inform our decisions when we choose our lobbying team for the next year. Happy to move it.

All right, it's been moved, 2B10 has been moved by Commissioner Regalado, seconded by the Vice Chair. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show it passed. 2B8, Commissioner from District 5, you're recognized, followed by Commissioner from District 8.

Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. So I had a quick question. I noted that we have 525 million in outstanding county debt as of last year. So my question is, a couple things, and if you don't have it, you can certainly get it to me. But how long has this debt been outstanding? It's almost a half a billion dollars.

Okay, so as a follow up question, so I know that Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, we passed a resolution to see if a third party could do better than we're doing. And I noted that you said that only 8% you thought were eligible for sale to third party collection agencies. And then you went on to say that this was based on legal risks, data validation challenges, and impacts to constituent services. I don't understand that only because there's lots of doctor's offices that have lots of confidential information that always send their receivables out to a third party. So can you expand as to why only

So wait, so the 525 million includes Jackson or does not include Jackson? Does not. What is, do you have what Jackson's debt is? What is that? 2 billion? Mm-hm. Okay, so you can imagine why I'm somewhat stunned by these numbers, especially when we are struggling to find revenue streams. So what is Jackson doing to collect its 2 billion? Do you have any idea?

So at what point do we write off bad debt? I mean, you're telling me that four to 30 years. I mean, at some juncture, from an accounting standpoint, and I'm an accountant by training and by trade, I don't understand any of this.

So can you provide me with the amounts that are four years, five years, I mean an aging of these- We can, we can provide that to you separately. Yes, and separate them out between Jackson and Woods County Department. Definitely, we can do that. I would urge my colleagues to recognize- One moment, Commissioner.

Please, can we just have silence while the Commissioner is speaking?

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Sorry about that, Commissioner. No, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think these are very large numbers. Clearly, two billion from Jackson, half a billion for the county departments. At some juncture, we either have to collect this or we have to write it off. But we can't continue to carry this kind of huge collectibles. They're either receivables or they're not receivables. At which point I don't even know anymore, but I will once I get the aging. So thank you so much, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Commissioner. Are there any, Commissioner? No.

Thank you, Mr. Vice Chair, and thank you, Commissioner Lopez, for your line of questioning. When these numbers were first brought to my attention when I asked for this report some time ago, I don't remember the date that the report passed, but it was quite some time ago, I too was stunned by your numbers. And I want to be clear, Madam Director, Jackson was excluded because you all advised me that Jackson essentially needed to be excluded that you all were the absolute final stop for Jackson and that for whatever the reason selling Jackson's debt was not something that was feasible at all for y

So thank you for that explanation, but I am perplexed. You're representing that your department has a 50% collection rate of all debts that you all collect for?

Sure, but you're collecting $20 million, not on $40 million of debt. You're collecting $20 million on what aggregate number?

So then what is the number of the 2 billion and the 500 million? What is it that you're collecting on the 2 billion and the 500 million?

No, yeah, so this is not particularly complex at all. And so you've represented that your collection rate is at 50% and that you've collected $21 million to date. What's being eliminated is the other very important number. I'm just trying to get what that number is. You've represented that there's 2 billion in outstanding debt service for Jackson alone and 500 million county wide. I don't understand how you represent the 21 million is a 50% collection rate. That's what I'm just trying to understand. The math is not mathing.

So here's the thing, I'm going to yield the floor to my colleagues. I know that the Vice Chairman has the gavel. I'm going to yield the floor to my colleagues because I see a lot of, so I'm going to yield the floor. But I'm not entirely sure that the question that I asked has been answered. And again, I think my goal has been crystal clear on this for the six and a half, seven, eight, nine months that we've been working on this. And I hope my colleague sentiment is similar. If we as an entity, we say all the time the mayor is the CEO of a $17 billion corporation. We use that analogy frequently

Now I'm going to go ahead and clarify that and then Commissioner Gilbert is going to come in on that one after that.

Yeah, but why did she mention a half? Hold on for one second. Listen everyone, we're going to do this in order. Notice this is an exciting topic, but now I'm going to please come back really quickly, clear up the air, and then we'll give the mic over to Commissioner Gilbert.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen guys, listen, listen. We're going to do this in order. I get it. We're going to get there. Nomina. Nomina. Come back to the podium, please. Nomina. All right. I apologize, but you're going to be fine. Trust me on this one. So if you can repeat what you stated, and then again, I'm going to refer to Commissioner Gilbert for questioning, and then we'll go down the line for other questioning. But I want to give you that respect. So let's try that again. Repeat the numbers, and then if someone has questions, we'll get those questions

Okay. Madam Mayor, give me one second. Let me just go around the board.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Commissioner Gilbert.

So I'm going to say this like not an accountant, all right? This 500 million that's owed us. But of that 500 million, they're only working on around, this year, they're working on 42 million of it. Because they don't have enough people to work on all 500 million at the same time. So what they're working on is, what they assigned is 42 of the 500. Of the 42 that they have assigned, they have collected 21. Thus, they're 50% of collections recovery of what they're actually working on. And they clear a new file, then they add another file to it because they're working within the confines of their

Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Give me one second. District 5. Gonzalez, you're next. So it sounds like if they're going at this rate, they're going to hit $250 million in collections, which is a great number, 50%. But Commissioner Vicky Lopez.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess I would argue that if you have 525 million, that is outstanding. And you only have so much personnel to do 41 million right now. Here's the question. Is the receivable amount actually real? Because if it's 30 years old, I'm going to argue, you're probably not going to get it. Which is why I have asked for the aging. Because as an accountant, that's what we do. We look at receivables and we look at aging and we say, that's probably now going to be a bad debt. And you write it off as uncollectible. So I don't know that $525 million is actually receivables. I get

Thank you, Commissioner. And to the administration, why haven't she received the aging request that she made? I guess that's a simple question.

Thank you so much. Commissioner Gonzalez.

Thank you so much, Mr. Chair, and I want to thank the chief for that explanation. I think we should probably put forward a motion to deem her and Commissioner Gilbert our official accounting translators, because that was fantastic. However, to Commissioner Lopez and Commissioner Cohen-Higgins' point, I think it would be a good idea, and I think that this is what we're trying to get to. To the chief's point, there is some debt that perhaps can be deemed uncollectible. And the director made a good analysis because I've seen debt collection in the past through the legal field. Sometimes you can o

Thank you. Commissioner Gilbert for clarification.

Yeah, my original point that I was going to make on this debt was just a couple of things to the folks who, we can do whatever the will of this body is, of course, why we vote, we do it. But remember that some of this debt is attached to stuff that people actually need. And so when they use the words like humane collection, what we're saying is some of our debts like people whose water gets turned off for lack of payment. So people need water to live. sometimes people don't have money to pay for water. And so I think that let's just be mindful when we go forward assigning these things to colle

Thank you, and I was going to say almost exactly that, Commissioner. The only thing I was going to add is that unlike debt collectors in some of these debts, we have the opportunity to collect more even though it's over a long period of time when the individual comes back to open an account, to get a permit, to have service at Jackson. So that's a different situation from if we sell it and we get pennies on the dollar. It does not harm us to hold that debt for a long period of time if what we're going to receive is so much larger than the sale minus the profit that a company is going to make.

Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Bermudez?

I'll be brief. I agree with Commissioner Lopez that this huge debt is obviously something that, and I agree with Commissioner Gilbert that the administration statement of collecting with compassion is fair. But there's nothing wrong with combining two things. The work that we have from the department to maybe some collection that getting something back is, Well, 10% of something is better than 0% of a lot more. And I don't think that every collection agency, and I don't have one, I'm not involved in one, necessarily is not compassionate. I just think there's nothing wrong. I just want the admi

Thank you, Commissioner. Last, Commissioner Lopez, please.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So thank you, Chief, for pointing out the chart. I'll give you a perfect example. There are ten accounts under Public Works that total $64 million that have been 30 years. Now, it's ten accounts. I'm pretty sure that we could probably say, and I'm sure the administration could tell us, the number of hours they've spent trying to collect them over the 30 years, right? This is a perfect example of the kind of thing that you would send to a third party. Because either they get pennies to the dollar, and we get something, because so far, ten accounts have been outstanding

Thank you, Commissioner. Do we have a motion to move this report? One moment. Commissioner Conehiggins.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to my colleagues on the conversation. What is it that we are doing? Are we just going to pass a report? Are we going to get another report? Just to be clear to the administration, are we going to get a subsequent report?

I appreciate the conversation and all of the comments that have been made. And these are the conversations we have to make because as we enter budget season, a number of us have already communicated our intention to take deep dives in these things. But we can't keep saying that we need to make tough decisions while simultaneously saying that we are not willing to collect on $2.5 billion worth of debt. Something has to give at some point. So I believe that there is a universe where we can Use an agency that engages with the compassion that we require, that we can collect as much of this money i

Thank you. Commissioner Orbis, please, and followed by Commissioner Gonzalez.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just to add on to what everybody has said, I know you're going to include the aging in the memo in the report that's coming back. Can we also get the categories of the type of debt and the likelihood of collection? I know that that's in your recommendation, but historically, right, what have you seen that you've been able to collect? And over the last 20 or 30 years, if we have that data, if we could also get the type of debt, that would be great. Yes.

Yeah, so I'd like to piggyback off what Commissioner Millian-Orbis and Commissioner Cohen-Higgins said. I do appreciate the mayor's comments. They're diligently taking notes on this conversation, but perhaps it would be good for the county attorney's office to give us a more of a narrow Instruction so that there's no confusion. And by the time the administration comes back with a report, they're not left with coming up short. So I love the fact that you said we should have categories. Definitely think we should have categories. I want to hear from Commissioner Lopez and Commissioner Cohen-Higg

Thank you, Commissioner. Seeing the item has been moved by Commissioner Lopez and second by Commissioner Gonzalez. All in favor of moving the report? Can we get the clarification before we vote though? Give me one second. To the administration. Commissioner Gonzalez made some points and asked for clarification. Were they taken down or you?

Thank you. And Chief, I would just like to add because I've seen debt collection through the legal field in the past. There are some third party companies that would probably purchase unmarketable debt just to be able to say that they're collecting debt from Miami-Dade County. I'm just going to throw that out there.

Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner, did that satisfy your request? Thank you. Thank you. All right, all in favor of the item? Aye. All against? Item passes. All right, next up 2B12, Commissioner Lopez.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So this has been an item that I have been following since I was in the House. And as you all know, we appropriate funds to begin in the fiscal year beginning July 1st. And I'm always in awe over the fact that we don't sign contracts for six months with the recipient of funds. So now I'm finding this item. that we still have outstanding items from 2024's legislative session as well as 2025. And I guess I would like to know, I want to be helpful in making sure that monies that are appropriated to the county actually come to the county so that we can do the work that we h

Thank you. Seeing the item being moved, do we have a second? Second by Commissioner Bermudez. All in favor?

Thank you. All against? Item passes. Next we have 3B2. It looks like you again, Commissioner Lopez.

So I just had a quick question on 3B2. So I noticed that we entered into a contract with Microsoft licensing, the nonprofit licensing, because there was an emergency situation. I'm just curious why we would enter into one for three years as opposed to a shorter period of time to address the emergency. That's the only question I had of the administration.

Any item being moved, do we have a second? Second by Commissioner Gonzalez. All in favor? Hold on. Discussion?

Okay, who was last? Okay, so it's been moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. All right, I'm on 3B5. We're going to move this along. We still have a very, very long pool list. Very quickly. Unless you all want to come into our backup meeting, which is in August, I suggest we start kind of getting through this. I'm good for it, by the way, for the August meeting. 3B5, Commissioner from District 5, you're recognized on the Miami Foundation grant.

Thank you. I just wanted a question to the administration with regards to getting grant funding from the Miami Foundation or any other organization to fund the operations and activities of the Department of Cultural Affairs. Is this something that has happened before? Is this like a pattern where we get grant money to pay for operations?

All opposed, nay. Commissioner Bermudez, I'm going to recognize you to retake up 7D. Kelly Tractor.

Okay. Yeah, 7D, I had made a motion. However, since Commissioner Hardiman is not here, and I'd like the full body, and now the full body to make a decision on this. And I do not believe, as the attorneys have clarified, because it impacts the CDMP, we have an ability to defer it until the full body is here to move it along for another deferral until the full body is here.

September 1st? September 1st. All right, so I'll show it deferred to September 1st, seconded by Commissioner Gonzalez. All in favor of the deferral, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay, show 7D deferred to September 1st. 8F2, Commissioner from District 12, you're recognized on 8F2.

Super Sisters? Yeah, I think this one is the one that I have an amendment for on the, I don't know if the attorneys want to read it or- If the attorneys could please read Commissioner Ramirez's amendment.

It's basically a technicality, Mr. Chair. As much as I love the three super sisters since I have three daughters, the reality is that the property that we're actually leasing, the owner's change is now 4106 Paraiso LLC. So it's just a corrected technicality. In between the time period that- I guess it started, this is what happened.

The show Bermuda's moving it as amended, seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. Seeing no further discussion, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show that item passed as amended. 8K4 and 8 and 7, Commissioner from District 1, two very separate items, but you're the pulling commissioner on both.

Yeah, 8K4, I think my question was why the PA needs folks' social security numbers. I know why we need it and we're sharing information. I don't know why they need it. So I didn't really, I wasn't vibing that portion of it. The attorneys, is there a reason?

Is somebody from the property appraiser's office in the chamber? Is it here?

He's in the building if you give him a few minutes.

Okay, we can come back to it if necessary. Cool. Eight and seven.

By the way, I think it has to do with determining homestead.

Okay, let's not. I'll text him. Eight and seven, commissioner from district one. We'll come back to that one. Eight and seven, commissioner from district one.

The underline. Yeah, well, we all know. Like we don't have to guess about this. Now, I just want to say, I'm going to pull like, I don't know which of you always say give me credit, but give me credit for like putting this on the agenda transportation and getting it out of committee. And to Stacy Miller, our very apt and able director, and Roy, who they both did their tedious early morning calls lobbying for this item. It's before the board, so you all can pass it. I'm going to vote no on this. I understand why it needs to pass, but fundamentally understand what we are doing. We're giving mone

Move it. Seconded by Commissioner Bastien. Sure. All right, you're recognized, Commissioner Cohen-Higgins.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. What department does this money come out of?

This comes out of the Department of Transportation and Public Works?

Okay, and the total contract value that you are extending this to is $8.2 million?

I guess a newer section of the underline?

I see, and so this is to complete the construction that's already underway? Okay, and how much is in your budget aside from this item to complete the underline, whether it's under construction or not? This is 8 million to complete that section that's already under construction. How much is in your budget to complete the underline, whether under construction or not?

2.7, that's all that's left in order to allocate to the underlying to finish the construction?

Okay, beyond this one and the two million that you just discussed? Yes, ma'am. Okay, that's all I needed to know. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Okay, we need a second. So we need a second by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor signify by saying aye. So the item passed reflecting two nos. All right, Commissioner from District 12. I am going to call up three WASDE items together. You're the pooling commissioner on all three, all the different items. You may speak on them all together, 802, 803, and 804.

Yeah, I'm going to support them all. I just want to make a comment about the change orders. I do it all the time. I don't know, it's a bad policy, and sometimes it's warranted, but this always costs us more money. If it's us that make the mistake, Then we should know. I think one of these things has 112 trees or something. But we really need to evaluate these contracts and I'm going to vote for them, all three. Mr. Chairman, that's it. I just got a comment on all three. Thank you. But it's just bad policy to have change orders constantly.

All right, we got a motion by- I have a quick question. Well, I need a motion on- I'll move it. Move by Commissioner Regalado, seconded by Bastien. You're recognized for a question.

I just have a quick question on 804 because the work was completed in 2025, but the payment wasn't issued. We're seeing the change order dated March 2026. Was there a reason why we have over a year from when the work was completed and when WASDE signed the change order?

I appreciate that, but I think a year and three months is a little bit more than what we usually see here in terms of close out. But yes, I'm happy to support it, but I think we should be mindful of the timing. I know it takes a while to get on the agenda, but I think a year and a few months is a bit much to wait for payment. Thank you.

All right, so I have a motion and a second. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show 802, 803, 804 passed by this vote. Commissioner from District 12, you're recognized on K Terminal AP 8.

Yeah, okay, I'm going to support it again, but I want to make some comments. This reminds me of the other concession agreement, the airport people are here. I still don't have the answers from the first concession agreement. And again, let me go through Mr. Red and Mr. Goldfarb. I'm sure you're watching. And the lobbyists, which I'm sure are watching. One of them was here. I think it's bad policy for This better be a clear, transparent process to award these contracts at the airport, because it wasn't last time, and I got a problem with it. And I'm going to be watching like a hawk, like white

All right, so moved by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, seconded. By Commissioner Lopez and all that you're looking to be recognized What all right like another scheme in it, all right, go ahead I

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Commissioner Bermudez, for the concerns that you expressed. I share those concerns, and I wanted to illuminate the fact that this award, and the airport can correct me if I'm wrong, is an entirely new company that has never been in our airport before, right? So talk about allowing new opportunity, not having the same Cabal continue to come back to us to occupy spaces. So I am with you and this is the first time that we have offered concessionaire opportunities in a very long time in this county to an entirely new company. So I echo your sentiments and I tha

It's been moved by Commissioner Koenig and seconded by Lopez. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Show that item passing. Vice Chair on 8P9, you're recognized.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I withdraw my poll.

All right. Would you move it? Sure. Vice Chair moves the item, seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. All in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Show it passing. I've got 95 was released or no? 95 was released and we passed that already? Yeah. Okay. I have 1181, Commissioner from District 5, you're recognized on the AMI reassessment.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to congratulate Commissioner Bastian. She is the chair of the housing committee and has done an amazing job drilling down on area median income. I'm really grateful to see this item come before us. And I will say that even within my commission district, and I think it's important that we know that The report calls for them to do AMI by commission district. I would almost say you got to drill down even further. So Brickell and Little Havana are contiguous communities, and the AMI in Brickell is not the same as the AMI in Little Havana. And as you

Yes. Thank you. Well, I mean, I'm no one to say yes, but yes. Sure, as a sponsor. All right, so we have a motion. We have a second. A motion by Commissioner Lopez, second by Gilbert. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Mr. Chair. Passed.

There's someone here from the PA's office.

OK, thank you for that. May the person from the PA's office approach? On. 8K4 May the representative from the PA's office approach. Yeah, that that would be you. Please say your name. And title? And we have a question for you on 8K4. Commissioner Gilbert, you're recognized for Q&A. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out over here.

No, to your right. To your right. Right here.

This is going to be interesting. Okay, we're going to be sharing, I guess, Social Security numbers with you. And I'm told that you need that to do what?

I'm not sure that actually answered the question why you need Social Security numbers. Well, basically- You said it's because you always had them.

Guys, can we lower the chatter in the back from staff? Even us up here on the dais can't hear the gentleman answer.

So it's not the only way. I could think of one way almost immediately. If someone lists a homestead with an address, and that address is also listed on a voucher, you know that there's an inconsistency and you can do it without a social security number. You don't need a social security number to do that. That's why I'm asking what you need it for.

I appreciate your constitutional office now. I appreciate that you've always gotten this and now it's before us and I'm reviewing it and I'm saying I don't know that you actually need it to do what you're saying that you need to do. So if you're giving them them and it's associated with people who are having vouchers or housing and you want to check it versus someone who's claiming homestead, almost direct line from point A to point B is the actual address. And so I get what you're saying. Are you telling us the statute requires us to give you the social security number?

So if it requires it, then that's the only answer. It requires it. But if it doesn't require that, and I'm going to call, look at the attorneys, and they're going to tell me whether it requires us to give you the social security number. No, that's not what I said. If the statute requires us to give you the social security number, you ought to collect it.

I would love to defer this to actually look at this further. Second.

It's been moved to the first second by Commissioner Cohen Higgins all in favor of the deferral signify by saying aye all Opposed nay show the item 8k for her to the next Next BCC meeting. All right, I've got I've got 11 A13 and its supplement. I'm going to start with Senator Garcia as not just a pooling commissioner, but the sponsor of the item.