City Council - workshop

Thank you. Councilwoman Dunn. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much for the I had just a couple of questions as well. So you said you're looking to redevelop the current site in a sub-basement, and that would do two additional floors in a sub-basement. Is that what you're saying?

Okay. And have you thought about going up a level at all? We have.

And then my other question is, given that I was here the first time when this happened and the MLK neighborhood was not very fond of really any changes in that space, Just wondering, had you got any community feedback or thoughts in regards to that? And I think one of the biggest issues that was gleaned from that was that nothing is happening now. Now, the city goes in, I believe, on Wednesdays, Wednesdays or Thursdays, and, like, sprays the sidewalk and cleans things up and things like that. But on a just every day. And some of the individuals that are in the area also make an effort to keep

And then so do you plan to engage that community again regarding this potential project?

Okay, I will note that it is District 8, so I think that would be important to note to talk to that council person. And the other piece I had was when I did go to the homeless self-care quarterly meeting, they mentioned that a lot of the people were mentioning that, you know, between the time they were waiting to have dinner at the kitchen, that they, and then even after they had dinner, they didn't have anywhere to go. So will the shelter be open tomorrow? all day, what would the operations look like? Because a lot of people are saying, you know, we sat here because we're just waiting to have

Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. So, Barron, how many people do you guys serve daily right now?

Your subterranean basement, do you have any issues with flooding?

I have to say, when I read the article in the paper, because that came out before council was made aware of these ideas, I think I audibly gasped at the idea of building a shelter for 400 to 500 people in a single location. I'll be interested to hear what my colleagues think about that concentration of folks. I also want to express now the concern that I have about the way that your current property is maintained. And when I, hearing your statements that the Martin Luther King neighborhood asked questions like, will there be enough case managers? That sounds to me a whole lot like a, is there

So you're saying that if there were more garbage cans and they were picked up daily, there would not be trash there?

Okay. Councilman Henderson? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Baron, I want to, just a little bit in conjunction with some of the line of questioning of Councilman Hill, but the sanctioned homeless gap really never did what we expected. Sure. other than the obvious, how do you see this being different?

Procedurally, it was just flawed is what you're saying. If you like, you've got a better plan. The reason I'm asking this, if it wasn't successful there and we're going to put a bunch of money into this, why do we think we'd have a different outcome? Other than the fact that I guess it's probably a little warmer in the winter and maybe a little cooler in the summer.

The other thing that I would say, I can see some potential problems with such a large site in one location. But the difficulty in finding one location has been so difficult I can't imagine trying to find multiple sites. I think probably this might be the best answer of a large location and I can see the benefit of having all those wraparound services in one location as well.

I mean, I think you take full advantage of that opportunity there.

So you have other property other than those?

Yes, I'm asking you to be ready to talk to them.

It's a good way to look up these numbers.

Thank you. Thanks for giving us one more time, Mr. Chair. So I will... I really appreciate, Sherita, how you did this report. I do have questions about how I feel my colleagues will ask a lot of the same ones, so I'm going to not go for that. But I would, while you're here with us, I'd appreciate it if you could give us an update on the IDB's decision yesterday. It is related to the Bend TIF. The Bend TIF. And while we're not officially going over a TIF annual report, it's something that the council needs to hear about today while we're here. So, Mr. Chair, it's up to you if you want to hear t

Thank you. I just want to make sure we hold time for that.

Councilman Henderson. A couple of questions. While we're on this slide, Rita, I think one thing maybe that I would like to see, and I don't know about the rest of the council, actual taxes paid versus maybe what they would have paid without the pilot. We do. I mean, if we could put another column there that would show what our gain is, like what kind of difference we're making. It seems like we do have some companies that have not lived up to their actual jobs at this point in time, but I'm assuming that they have more time to meet those requirements?

okay and then i mean there's some others on here as well i mean i haven't actually just i'm taking a look at um started in 2023 they had 660 commitments and actual jobs so they're a little behind there they are that's correct and so like when do we begin talks about you're not meeting

I've got a few more questions. So once everybody else, if we've got time, come back to me. But can I make a suggestion that we maybe talk about the

No, no, an attorney client during our break. I'd like to make that suggestion.

Yes, thank you so much. Thank you, Sherita, for this great presentation. I was going to ask, one, can we just get a copy of the presentation? Yes. And then, two, kind of leading to what Councilman Henderson was saying in regards to the taxes, can we also get, for the ones that are ending this year, can we get the full property tax of what they'll be paying now, now that their incentive has ended? Yes. Okay, that's it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Sherita.

Did everybody go around the horn? I do have a follow-up. Can we go back a slide or two? And I want to understand. Right there is fine. Is the pilot value over 10 years, is that the amount of taxes that we're abating through the agreement? Yes. Help me understand then the difference in the cumulative property taxes. What is that number then?

Yeah, yeah. Not 100% abatement over the length of, well, at least our, in the last 10 years maybe. Right. We have a step, I know we've had a step.

So that cumulative property tax is taxes that's going into our general fund. And that number would reflect, scroll forward again now. that cumulative property tax goes towards actual taxes paid. So that number accumulates to give you that number that you just gave us.

And so what you do is you calculate or add all of those actual property taxes paid each year to give us the cumulative over the length of the pilot. And that's how much is going into the general fund? During the pilot process, or terms of the pilot?