City Council - Regular Meeting

2:21•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Good evening. Just want to call the meeting to order for the Oxnard City Council for Thursday, July 30th, 2026. Madam Clerk, may we have the roll call on posting of the agenda, please?

2:53 – 3:05•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Prior to closed session, I'll ask our City Attorney, Mr. Fisher, to provide a statement prior to closed session. We will also take public comments on the closed session agenda. Thank you.

4:05•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Madam Clerk, are there any public speakers or comments for this item?

7:20 – 7:31•BPBert E. Perello

Mayor. Thank you. Mayor, will you ask the speaker, is she speaking as a private citizen or legal representation for any of the parties in the lawsuits? To clarify that so we get her on the record. A little bit of background noise.

7:31•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I'm just going to ask our city attorney for some direction. I'm just unsure whether we can ask the speaker for that clarity. I'll defer to you, Mr. Fisher.

7:56•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Is it appropriate for me to ask her whether she's speaking much to what Councilman Perillo mentioned? Is she speaking as a private person or is she speaking on behalf of moving Oxnard forward?

9:47•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Madam Clerk, does that conclude the speakers for the closed session item?

9:57 – 44:14•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. The City Council will now recess to closed session and reconvene back here at 530. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. The City Council has just emerged from closed session, and I'm gonna ask Mr. Fisher, our city attorney, if there are any statements or announcements to make.

44:54 – 45:27•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Mr. Fisher. The next item on the agenda is item D1. This is an appointment item that was scheduled for 5.30. Please forgive us for the delay. This evening's presentation is a live presentation by FoodShare and we're certainly pleased to welcome CEO Monica White. Hi Monica. And who will be delivering tonight's presentation. Thanks Miss White.

54:21•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Wonderful. Thank you, Ms. White. Any questions from any council members? Go ahead, Michaela.

54:26 – 55:32•MPMichaela Perez

First, I just want to start off by thanking you for the presentation. I think the data is really important for folks to be aware of. I mean, 64.60% of our city's population is being served through a variety of capacities. 45,000 farm workers of Ventura County, and I'm sure the number here in the city of Oxnard is very prominent. And oftentimes I hear from community members that they can't afford the crop that they pick. And so just want to thank you for those opportunities. And I know you also share data on what folks in the community often have to choose from, whether it's healthcare, rent, o

56:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments?

56:56 – 57:43•ASAaron Starr

So, Monica, your organization does wonderful work. I serve on the Board of Advisors for the Gene Haas Foundation, and we regularly give you six-digit checks, I think, every year. And one of the reasons why we give money to your organization is because we look at the finances of the public reports, and we see what percentage of overhead there is versus the values that you're providing. And it's been historically very low. And that's a good thing. So that means that more of the money actually is used to reach the people that need to be served. So I just wanted to compliment you and take this opp

58:08•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Thank you. Go ahead, Council Member Perillo. Councilwoman, go ahead.

Yes. So Monica, thank you so much for your presentation. You were really succinct and to the point, so we thank you for that. I have been involved with FoodShare, I know, through the Oxnard Monday Club because our ladies love volunteering there. So I'd like for you to speak a little bit about folks who might want to sign up on your app or just register to volunteer and how they could do so. The other comment I have is that through Oxnard College, Research shows that throughout the state of California, about 52% of college students are food insecure and housing insecure. And there's such great

1:00:03 – 1:01:20•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Councilwoman. I just want to certainly, you know, I volunteered before Ms. White, and I was there at your food share event when you talked about the new facility coming here in the city of Oxford. And I just want to commend, I see some of your staff out here, the leadership you can see in your presentation, just the passion behind how you lead FoodShare. So I just want to commend you and praise you for that effort. As many of you know, I come from a policing background, working with the most vulnerable in our community, and I oftentimes have referred them to food shares and to the v

1:01:42 – 1:01:54•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

And thank you for your adjustment. I know you talked about the cultural sensitivity, but being able to offer like masa and other things that are vital products to this community. So thank you for that.

1:01:59•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you so much. Any other comments or questions? Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Ms. White, for this wonderful presentation. Thank you.

1:02:20 – 1:03:09•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you very much. I'll call the meeting to order, then we'll give you five minutes. Okay. Good evening, everyone. Just want to call the meeting to order for the Oxnard City Council for Thursday, July 30th, 2026. Madam Clerk, may we have the roll call and posting of the agenda, please?

1:03:34•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Before we get to the Pledge of Allegiance, Assistant City Manager, did you want to make an announcement?

1:04:40 – 1:04:52•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Mr. Sunstegard. The next item is the Pledge of Allegiance. And for this, I'll turn this over to Councilwoman Rodriguez.

Yes, I wanted to call forward Natalia Cervantes. She's a student. I think she's coming into the hall. She is a student at Oxford Middle College and has been involved with, oh, here she come. Here they come. Has been involved with the Lak'ech Cultural Center for a long time. So I know that her family has participated in family leadership conferences and much more with future leaders when I was involved then. But I am very proud of this young woman. how much she has grown up and grown. So I'm gonna call her up to the podium to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, Natalia Cervantes.

1:05:34•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

So. We're just waiting I think for a few more to come in.

I think we have a whole. That was all part of the Pledge of Allegiance. I think that is a presentation happening regardless. All right. So when we do the Pledge of Allegiance, Natalia will lead us through that.

And remove your hats if you're going to do the Pledge of Allegiance, please.

Okay, and were you prepared to share a little bit about your journey and being involved in Nilakic?

I think they had a special presentation happening anyway.

1:07:09•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

What's going to happen next, yeah. Thank you so much, Natalia. Thank you. And thank you, Dr. G. And whenever you're ready, Natalia, go ahead.

Mariachi Girl, go ahead. Is that the Mariachi Girl?

1:28:02 – 1:28:27•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Thank you so very much. I couldn't stop taking photos and videos up here. I'll tell you, this is the best start of a council meeting I've ever had, and I just wanted to memorialize it, so thank you, boys and girls. Thank you, Dr. G. And at this point, I want to bring up Natalia Cervantes and her family. Natalia, we have a beautiful certificate up here for you, if you want to come up with your family.

And if I may, I just have to say that when I reached out to Natalia to do the Pledge of Allegiance, I didn't realize that was going to receive a certificate today. So that was very timely. The concert was just a cherry on top. So thank you very much. If her family can come up here, because it definitely takes a village, I think. Believe it or not, she claims to be shy. She claims to be shy, but I'm very, very proud of her because even though she had to take a breath and ground herself, she had her village with her, and there's just a lot of professional and personal development happening.

1:30:14 – 1:32:20•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you so much. And now we're going to, you know, we have a number of presentations. We're going to start with you, Dr. G, and the students from . We have a beautiful certificate for you. And this is just before we start calling up the various groups that are here. in our council chambers. Several months back, I envisioned doing a celebration of America 250, and I wanted to highlight the uniqueness of our heritage here in the city of Oxnard, the incredible diversity that exists. As you can see here, represented here in this council chamber from Dr. G and the students of . We have Tlaxcala w

1:33:29 – 1:34:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I'm going to briefly read the certificate that we've crafted for Dr. G and the students of Enla Ketch, whereas the City Council of the City of Oxnard wishes to express its sincere appreciation to Dr. Javier Gomez, and the students of En La Quech for their significant cultural contribution and performance at the event held on July 3rd at Plaza Park in commemoration of America 250 Star Striped Sounds in celebration. Whereas the En La Quech Cultural Arts Center, Lucha Inc. performed mariachi music and folklórico dance rooted in regional Mexican traditions representing a prominent aspect of the cu

1:39:25•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you so much, Dr. G. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for those inspiring words. Thank you, everyone.

1:40:27 – 1:42:02•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

This next certificate of commendation is for the Color Guard from Naval Base Ventura County. And as the Color Guard is making their way up here, I'm just going to read you their certificate. Whereas the City Council of the City of Oxnard wishes to express its appreciation to the Color Guard from Naval Base Ventura County for their significant contribution at the event held on July 3rd at Plaza Park in commemoration of America 250, Stars, Stripes, and Sounds. whereas the color guard displayed the national flag with formal precision and dynamic choreography to inaugurate the America 250 event, f

Sure, the next group we wanna honor is Sisters Friends Forever. Do we have the group here? Yay, representative. Sisters Friends Forever. So the Sisters Friends Forever Dance showcased Filipino cultural heritage and celebrated the diverse backgrounds within the city of Oxnard. Their participation aligned with Mayor Luis A. MacArthur's vision of hosting the grand celebration in downtown Oxnard to mark America's 250th milestone, emphasizing the city's unique heritage through cultural displays, vibrant music, and culinary offerings. So thank you so much for joining us in that celebration and for b

So up next, we would like to invite the Pinay friends to please come and join us as well. Pinay? OK. So the Pinay friends presented traditional dances that showcase Filipino heritage during the America 250 Festival, thereby celebrating the diverse backgrounds within the city of Oxnard. Their involvement significantly supported Mayor Louise MacArthur's vision for hosting grand celebration in downtown Oxnard to mark the 250th anniversary for America, emphasizing the city's unique heritage through cultural displays. Their contribution played a critical role in ensuring the success of the July 3rd

1:47:58 – 1:49:25•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

This next one is for Leon of Ventura County. Whereas the city council wishes to express its heartfelt appreciation to Leoneon Association of Ventura Keone, a nonprofit organization based here in Oxnard dedicated to community and cultural engagement for their participation in the July 3rd event at Plaza Park. Leoneon showcased traditional Filipino dances during the festival, highlighting the diverse background within the city of Oxnard, and their involvement was significant. Charlene is also picking up the other certificate. This is for the Filipino American Council of Ventura County, where the

1:50:44 – 1:51:44•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I was just telling Charlene, I'm so glad that they're having it here in our city of Oxnard in the south. And thank you, Charlene, for bringing it back to our city. Next, we have the International Culture Association of California. The Cultural Association. Association of California, otherwise known as ICAC, is a dedicated nonprofit organization based here in Oxnard committed to community service, unity, and cultural events for their valued participation in the event held on July 3rd at Plaza Park. We're bestowing this certificate for you. ICAC. whose objectives include fostering connections am

1:52:51 – 1:53:38•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

The next one is for Use Your Gift. UIG. UIG is a faith-based liturgical dance ministry and training group based in Oxnard that emphasizes worship, praise, and dance. Their participation was highly valued in the event held on July 3rd. UIG's performance at Oxnard's Plaza Park during the America 250 Festival, where UYG integrated multiple styles, such as hip-hop, modern, and ballet, served as a physical expression of devotion, highlighting the diverse heritage that exists here within the city of Oxnard. Thank you so much, UYG.

1:55:14•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

She is also, we're so lucky to have her. She's an employee here with the city of Oxnard, works for our rec department. Thank you.

Hello. Okay. Up next, we'd like to bring a very talented singer, Sade Champagne, to please come up here, who has always blessed us with her beautiful voice. Yes. Yes. Thank you.

1:57:31 – 1:58:44•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you so much today. And I heard that Prince is your favorite artist, is that? Number one, yeah. He's one of my favorites as well. Yeah, I think the best concert I ever saw was Prince. Thank you so much, Ms. Champagne. Thank you. Next we have Kealoha and Company. If they're here, yeah. As they're making their way up here, I'll just take a couple inserts from their certificate. This is a sincere appreciation of the Kealoha and Company and Expressions of the Pacific, a dynamic Polynesian dance and cultural performance group. Kealohan Company and Expressions of the Pacific, supported by local

2:01:12 – 2:02:21•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. This is in sincere appreciation of the Tlaxcala group that is here in Oxnard for their exemplary performance showcasing traditional Mexican regional folk dance and cultural heritage during the event on July 3rd at Plaza Park in commemoration of America 250. The Tlaxcala group presents or presented at the festival vibrant traditional costumes as you see here. live music and ceremonial footwork rooted in the indigenous and colonial history of Tlaxcala, Mexico, demonstrating commendable cultural engagement through traditional performances such as the huejes, carnival steps, and other a

2:08:32 – 2:09:45•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you everyone for bearing with us. We have two more. And this is for the Oxnard Downtowners Foundation. As Matt Wycombe is making his way up, just wanna read some inserts from this commendation. The city council expresses its sincere appreciation to the Oxnard Downtowners Foundation a group composed of downtown merchants and volunteers dedicated to fostering a healthy and vibrant downtown area. Special acknowledgements are given to Matt Wycombe and Gary Blum for their significant contribution and for their unwavering collaboration with the mayor's office to organize the July 30 event at P

2:10:23 – 2:12:48•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I'm just looking at the chair. of the Port Hueneme Harbor Commissioners, Mr. Jason Hodge. Just want to acknowledge. I see Leticia's here too. And Miguel is here as well. Miguel Rodriguez is here from the Port of Hueneme. And as Chair Hodge is making his way up here, just want to read you some inserts from this commendation. The City Council of the City of Oxnard wishes to express its appreciation to the Port of Wainimi for its significant contribution to the event that we held on July 3rd here in the heart of our city. The Port of Wainimi serves as a regional economic driver, providing an unco

2:13:53 – 2:19:06•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

The chair was mentioning he's used to giving them, now he's receiving it on his end. But thank you so much. And as the chair mentioned, there are key people that I will recognize later, like the Chattanooga High School Band, Selena Zacarias, Ralph Casillas, AMR, and many others who also contributed to making this event successful. We're gonna recognize him at a future event. And the last commendation we have, this is for Peggy Rivera. And as the family, and this is a commendation after death. Peggy died about a month back. I joined the family in a Celebration of Life event that happened here a

2:20:46•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Would you like to introduce the family that's here?

2:20:59•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Anthony Ramirez, son. Olivia, her granddaughter. Sophia, her granddaughter.

2:21:36 – 2:23:23•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

He's also one of our Bass City employees here, right here. And if it's okay, we'll take a picture, a group picture. Thank you city staff and thank you members of the audience for your patience and bearing with us. I personally think highlighting the great people of our city is so important and having them come to our city hall, their city hall, to me is incredibly important for strengthening our community and to let our community know that we work for them. So thank you for bearing with us. Yes, go ahead council member, absolutely.

2:23:24 – 2:24:13•BPBert E. Perello

I appreciate all the groups who were honoured here, and I will share I did work with Ms. Peggy Rivera. She was tenacious in what she believed in. But I want to make a statement. We had four members of the military. Those four members volunteered to serve this country and are put in harm's way by the leadership of this nation. Ladies and gentlemen, your votes count. We have one member of the city staff just back from a rotation in his service. The leadership of the country can play with people's lives. In my opinion, when you see a person in military uniform, thank them for their service. If th

2:24:15 – 2:25:02•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Council Member Perlow. And again, thank you everyone. Those that are here, I hope you get an opportunity to see with what we celebrate here today and recognize these various groups, the beautiful heritage of our city and how vibrant our city really is. We will now move to the next item on the agenda. And I hope everyone can hear me okay. This is item G, this is for public comments for items not on the agenda and also for non-action items. And we have at least a couple in-person speakers on this item. We'll start with Julia Martinez, followed by Tara.

2:26:42•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. That was very good. Thank you. Tara?

2:30:01•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Tara. Thank you very much. J.R. Ruiz.

2:32:26•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

THANK YOU, JR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. YES, GO AHEAD.

2:38:34•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Madam Clerk, does that conclude the speakers for this item?

2:38:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. The next item is item H. This is a report of the city manager. Sonsagard.

2:40:11 – 2:40:27•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Mr. Suncigard. The next item on the agenda is item I. This is the report of council members. Councilwoman Perez, we'll start with you. If you have anything to report.

2:40:28 – 2:43:56•MPMichaela Perez

Yes, thank you, Mayor, for the recognition. My report's going to be a little bit long, but I'll try to keep it pretty quick. Last Friday, we wrapped up the Youth Academy. It was great to see the cohort there give their presentations, and I also just wanted to take a moment to thank Mayor Pro Tem. as well for leading and helping with this opportunity. Looking forward to the next cohort for the Voices of Oxnard Youth. Last week I also attended Southwind's backpack distribution, so I want to thank all the partners here in the audience who made that possible. Alongside my colleagues here, I also j

2:43:57 – 2:45:50•BPBert E. Perello

Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to piggyback on Council Member Perez's comment. When people have large items that they want to get rid of, the City of Oxnard has a program. You can call in and they will pick up a large item for you if you make an appointment up to a number of times per year. And I can tell you, no matter where it is in the City of Oxnard, the area that gets pounded in my area is on Patterson between Teal Club and Doris. refrigerators, sofas, furniture, and it's picked up the next day and somebody comes back. Ladies and gentlemen, this is not coming from people outside your neighbor

2:45:52•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Council Member. Mayor Portem.

2:50:32•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Wonderful. Thank you, Mayor Portem. We'll go to Councilman Basuwa.

2:50:36 – 2:52:31•GBGabriela Basua

Thank you, Mayor. I want to give special thanks to Lailuna Local 585 for their invitation to join them at the Taste of the Fair. It was a fun event. Also, I want to thank Unidos 805 for the invitation to be a speaker at their summer party event at Oxnard College. So thank you very much for them. It was a civic education. and conversation to help build a stronger community. I attended the Oxnard Connect yesterday, but I couldn't stay for the entire thing. I want to thank the staff. It was very well attended, so thank you for that. I had an opportunity to stop by the Heritage Square to meet the

2:52:32 – 2:52:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

That's wonderful. That's wonderful news. That's fantastic. He's here in our council chambers. We have a nice... photo of him up here. And I watch his special Netflix. It's wonderful to have him here in our city. Council Member?

2:52:50 – 2:55:17•ASAaron Starr

Thank you. Well, it's been mentioned a couple times already about National Night Out on August 4th. I really want to encourage you to attend. It's a great opportunity to meet your neighbors and a very collegial environment. Often, I know, for example, in Rose Park, they have food and that sort of thing. And other places have started to do potlucks. And I think that's a great development. And it's just an opportunity to meet each other and just collaborate and just bring people closer together. On August 7th, there's a mural restoration celebration over at Colonial Park for the, I think it's th

2:55:17•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you Thank You customer star councilwoman Yes, thank you so much.

I know there's a few events that I participated in that have already been shared like the renaming of the transit ceremony the Transit Center so John C Saragossa Transit Center, thank you all for for joining that that was a very warm felt celebration. I also attended the Meet the Electeds Mixer that happened yesterday at Heritage Square. But I really want to give a shout out to the Meet Up Clean Up team because last Saturday was so hot. But they were all out there, had the best attitude, and folks just rolled up their sleeves. And thank you to all the volunteers that came out. And special than

2:57:34 – 2:59:53•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Councilwoman. And I'll just wrap up with I stay really busy in my office meeting and then driving out to meet with various constituents in our city anywhere from driving out to meet them at their house regarding parking issues, alley concerns, hazards in our city. And our city staff has been extremely responsive in addressing these highlighted concerns from members of our community. Also really proud that We're going to have the Ceviche Festival. It's going to happen here at the harbor this Saturday at 1 o'clock to 6 p.m. The Ceviche Festival has traditionally been held in Ventura,

2:59:53 – 3:00:08•BPBert E. Perello

I'd just like to add, the Dallas Cowboys camp has opened up and I appreciate the fact that the city of Oxnard is doing their best to prevent over impacting neighborhoods with parking. And for the residents and the drivers, be careful when you're driving around. A lot of little kids.

3:00:10 – 3:01:12•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you for mentioning that. You'll see, I think we all collaboratively did a beautiful job, our city staff maintaining our center medians, our green spaces, and you'll see the flags that are on Vineyard Avenue showcasing that we're home to the summer training camp of the Dallas Cowboys. So it's a beautiful collaboration with the Lodging Association, our city, the Cowboy staff, our police department, providing protection services in conjunction with the Dallas Cowboys and their staff. And so it's a beautiful time. Many of us will be there this Saturday for the opening day celebration. So we

3:01:35 – 3:01:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Madam Clerk. Do any council members wish to remove an item from the consent agenda for further review and discussion? Council Member Perrella, go ahead.

3:01:49 – 3:02:06•BPBert E. Perello

With the number of written comments that we got on six with respect to the contract for the seawalls, I think it would be wise to have somebody come up and just give a brief overlay of what's going on. I'm not asking to pull it, but we haven't gotten that many written comments on things quite some time.

3:02:07 – 3:02:30•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Okay, we will pull item L6, which is from the Public Works Department for further discussion. Any other items from the consent agenda? No? Okay. What's the pleasure of council on the other items, L through one through nine, with the exception of L5 that Madam Clerk has pulled, and item L6, which we will pull for discussion?

3:03:11 – 3:04:21•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Madam Clerk. We'll go to item L6, which Councilmember Perrello wished to further have a discussion on. This is from the Public Works Department. The subject entails approve additional contract funds for additive bid item one for the Mandalay Bay seawalls, which is West Hemlock Street seawall repairs project. Specification number of Public Works 24-129. The recommendation is that the City Council approve and authorize additional contract contingency funding for the execution of alternative bid item number one in the amount of $232,000. TO AGREEMENT 326-00126 WITH GEO HEAVY CONSTRUCTI

3:04:21•BPBert E. Perello

Just a brief explanation Why this item is on the agenda this way and what the project is is briefly without violating any measure M or anything else?

3:06:09•BPBert E. Perello

And if you could just address, there may be a lot of people who don't understand what the title change has to do with in these projects.

3:07:25 – 3:07:47•BPBert E. Perello

Thank you very much. And I can share with the council, the residents are extremely thrilled for the work that's going. They're very supportive. There were concerns that because of the times that the work would be done because of the tides, my understanding is nobody's complaining. They're thrilled that it's going forward. And we've gotten a lot of support letters on this item. So I'd move this recommendation if there's no other comments.

3:07:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

That's okay. Thank you, Director Wolff, for that. That's going to enhance our city. Madam Clerk, we'll call for the vote.

3:08:59•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you for your comments. Thank you very much for calling in.

3:09:27 – 3:10:39•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Madam Clerk. The next item on the agenda is item N1, This is from the city attorney's office. Subject, ordinance regulating e-bikes. Recommendation that the city council approve and introduce by title only. And wait for the reading of an ordinance titled Ordinance of the City of Oxnard, California adding an article to chapter seven of the city code regarding the regulation of the operation of motorized wheeled conveyances, e-bikes, and similar devices. The Community Services, Public Safety, Housing, and Economic Development Committee approved this item back on July 14 with a vote of

3:11:00•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fisher. Go ahead, Andrew.

3:14:57 – 3:15:16•MPMichaela Perez

Thank you so much for providing that overview. I wonder, because I know you highlighted a little bit about the different classifications, one through three, and the speed limits, right, for each of these. Do you mind kind of walking through class one through B, if it's appropriate at this time?

3:15:46 – 3:16:20•MPMichaela Perez

And it looks like out of all classes, class one through three, helmets are required of all ages. And the reason why I pointed out wanting you to uplift the different classes is just to provide that awareness to the public, especially for parents. As you mentioned, that level of education. Since I know many young people often go through their loved ones or their guardians to purchase many of these e-bikes, I think it's important for them to be aware of the speeds and just the level of safety that's needed for that awareness piece. So thank you.

3:16:37•MPMichaela Perez

Great. Thank you. I appreciate that clarification.

3:16:43•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Go ahead, Damir Portoum.

3:20:20•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you mayor Thank you mayor for two more there any questions or comments Go ahead councilman. We're sorry. Yes.

3:20:27 – 3:21:04•ASAaron Starr

Okay. Thank you. I do like the fact that this ordinance easy measured in that a fine can be waived if the person takes a class after the citation is issued. So I really appreciate that we're not really focusing on the money aspect. We're focusing on the safety aspect. As I looked through the ordinance, I did see where there was a fine specified for minors. I think it was $25, but I didn't see anything that cited what the fine would be in general. So I might have missed that, or maybe it's addressed by state law.

3:21:23 – 3:22:35•ASAaron Starr

Got it. So that was referenced in a different section of the code. Got it. I do have a question concerning the exemptions that I see on page 376. So I understand having this not apply to somebody who is physically disabled. That makes sense to me. What I don't understand is the second one that says, not with saying any other provision of this article or any other section of this code, city and public agency personnel may operate a motorized vehicle conveyance or other vehicles at any place in the city in the performance of their official duties. And I guess my thought about that, just at first

3:22:46•ASAaron Starr

So would this be limited only to officers, or are there others that this could apply to, do you think?

3:23:01 – 3:23:12•ASAaron Starr

All right, I appreciate that. I'm always hesitant to wind to putting a rule on everybody else that we don't put on ourselves. So I appreciate you addressing that.

I'm sorry, can I just clarify? So what would be an example of somebody needing to use an e-bike for the performance of their jobs if they're not a police officer or if they're not doing law enforcement? I think it's a different way of framing the question, but I just want to understand why wouldn't we just...

3:24:46•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you for sharing that. Good. I guess when we start, then we'll go to Mayor Proctor.

3:24:51 – 3:25:54•ASAaron Starr

Thank you. So, yeah, several other questions. But given what I've just heard, I think that it might be appropriate to change the language to simply give the exemption to law enforcement only if there's some reason that comes up in the future where we need to, have somebody else have this exemption. Let's bring it back at that point. But I don't want to have a situation where the way it's written, it looks like it's any city employee. And these days, it's hard to argue whether someone's doing something in the performance of their duties or not. A question I have, a separate question I have is t

3:26:16 – 3:26:43•ASAaron Starr

I guess my question is, as state law changes, can you imagine a situation where We wouldn't need an ordinance like this because state law addresses speed limits up and down the state. We don't have our own separate law ordinance here just for speed limits, I don't think. I'd like to know your thoughts on that.

3:28:28 – 3:29:11•ASAaron Starr

What I've seen in state legislation at times is sometimes they'll put in a sunset provision into the law in order to make sure that somebody's going to have to look at it because otherwise it's going to expire. I was wondering if perhaps a sunset in two years would make sense and that way we know that we got to look at this again at least two years from now. Okay. And then I have a question on, I assume the answer is yes, but will Oxnard PD be tracking violations of this ordinance and reporting back to council? And if so, would it be annually or periodically or what would that be?

3:30:05 – 3:30:16•ASAaron Starr

Do you have the infrastructure in place to actually track that and measure it and spit it out? Or do you need extra software programming to make that possible?

3:30:29•ASAaron Starr

Thank you, Mayor. That's all my questions. Thank you.

3:31:40 – 3:32:11•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I appreciate Ms. McCarran's explanation about very intentionally crafting this policy to keep it broad. Just some follow-up questions. I know there's some discussion about offering an in-person session, and I get it. There's some young people that learn, or people just in general learn better in person versus doing a virtual class. Is there going to, I would imagine we would incur some costs as a city to be able to offer an in-person class, and would that then be passed on to a young person being the recipient of a citation?

3:32:28 – 3:33:07•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Wonderful, thank you. And another follow-up question too is just wondering how you landed on the 14 days to be able to show proof to the police department versus, just seems to me personally, a very small window to be able to show proof that they've taken this online course or whether an in-person course as opposed to staying with, for example, the parking citations, the general practice is about 21 days versus a moving citation, the general practice is 30 to 60 days. How do we land on 14 days for a young person to be able to prove that they've taken that course, as opposed to maybe 21 days or

3:33:26 – 3:33:53•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. And just one other question. I noticed here that the first citation indicates that the city attorney is authorized not to file the citation or may otherwise dismiss it or waive any fines and penalties related to the citation. Is that a discretionary action that we're allowing the city attorney to take or is that a shall do it on the first citation?

3:34:15•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I appreciate that. That makes sense. I appreciate it. Thank you. Any other? Yes. Do we have any speakers? Madam Clerk for this item?

3:37:47•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Does that conclude the speakers for this item? Not good, I guess we're probably glad.

3:37:54 – 3:38:16•BPBert E. Perello

Thank you very much. This was heavily discussed in the committee, and I'd like to bring back a couple of things. But just as we've gone back and forth, we're going to have helmet rules and regulations. Is there anything in the helmet rule and regulations that requires it to be attached? I see a lot of people writing them with the strings dangling down, which does nobody any good. Is there a requirement that it is attached?

3:38:20 – 3:38:38•BPBert E. Perello

That answers the question. The second part is on page three and number four and eight, it talks about certain areas of the city which will be, can or cannot be determined. What and who will decide those areas and how will that impact the protection for the riders?

3:38:52 – 3:39:26•BPBert E. Perello

Because I can see that at the very least, we're talking about there's not going to be a financial impact if we start making paints or we start putting signs. Nothing's free. There will be a financial impact. But how will the determination be made where it goes? Is it based on the most accidents or the most youthful riders or... And I will share with the council, the people that have scared the hell out of me most are definitely over 21, and they're going the wrong way, going too fast, and blowing through stop signs. But that's just a personal observation.

3:40:58 – 3:41:20•BPBert E. Perello

Thank you. If I can carry just a little bit more. I think I understood you mentioned boardwalks or pathways or walking like Seabridge. Will these be allowed in parks, on walking trails, on grass lawns? There was a resident in District 1 that was very adamant with her views, and I thought she would call in, but she didn't.

3:41:37 – 3:42:00•BPBert E. Perello

OK, thank you. With respect to at the very beginning of the program, we talked about other wheeled devices. How do we handle unicycle, the single wheel? How do we handle the skateboard? How do we handle the scooter? Are we going to come back with different rules for them? Or are they actually concreted into this thing that they're all covered?

3:42:37 – 3:42:50•BPBert E. Perello

Let me just quickly find that I think just for the city if you can identify them being it's a public meeting It'll be a tape because there's somebody's gonna get really upset that somebody's telling them they can't use certain things in certain places I think it would be helpful for the city.

3:43:47 – 3:44:03•BPBert E. Perello

Thank you very much. My last question, I believe, is when it's sort of identified there will not be a financial impact, when we hear these discussions going on and what will be expected, how do we verify that there may not be a financial impact?

3:44:27 – 3:44:51•MPMichaela Perez

Yeah, I just have a clarifying question. And maybe this is a question for OPD. I know here it says 14 days of receipt of a citation that they'll be required to take the mandatory education program. But is that 14 days? I know they'll get a citation in person. But is the 14 days starting after they received it through mail? Or how does that work?

3:46:25•MPMichaela Perez

Great. And just to clarify really quick, so they won't be getting a copy of their citation via mail?

3:47:05•MPMichaela Perez

Okay, yeah, and maybe if the group is open, just reconsidering the window of time, just considering, yeah, perfect.

3:47:13 – 3:47:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

And that's what I raised as well, because I think you need some clarity, because if we approve the in-person, if the in-person is not, because this is completely, It says violators must complete the mandatory education program and submit proof to OPD within 14 days. Maybe it should be cleaned up to where they can submit to take a course, whether in person or online, within that 14-day window. And then I don't know what the terminology can look like or craft it to where they have x amount of time then to formally complete the course. Go ahead, Mayor Portilla.

3:54:36•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Mayor Portem. Councilwoman Rodriguez, go ahead.

Oh, I was just going to give my two cents. I really love the spirit of what's being proposed in terms of having the classes happen in person, but I just want to make sure that they're still accessible. And for a working person who maybe is juggling life, I don't want to burden folks with having to show up to a class in person when they have the option in 2026 to still do the same learning online in the middle of the night, right? Some of us are up all night just trying to gain the learning, especially if we're trying to be constructive in the educational piece. So those were my two cents. I re

3:56:29 – 3:57:51•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you before I go to council member star. I just I just want to add to as I initially Stated I don't support. I'm very supportive of this item his identity committee The 14 days is too short. I would align with Councilmember Perez. I think minimally 21 to 30 days to submit proof. I do appreciate Mayor Pro Tem's in-person. I think there's a lot of value to that, but I think in 2026 we need to provide our young people with alternatives as well as families to be able to do it better. online, also recognizing that the most recent census report indicated that nearly 10% of our household student

3:59:04 – 4:00:48•ASAaron Starr

So thank you for that clarification. I guess then I would say that I don't really want a situation where this is only applicable to a phase and period. I think that, you know, There's instances where you go to traffic school for various violations, even though you've been driving for many, many years. It just seems that given the nature of this infraction that I just don't see why we couldn't on an ongoing basis allow people to, at least at the first time they do it, be able to get the fine waived if they take the class. Regarding the number of days, though, 14 is short, and I agree with that,

4:00:50•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Council Member. Ambassador, go ahead.

4:00:52 – 4:03:12•GBGabriela Basua

Thank you, thank you. I appreciate the dialogue. I actually see it a little bit different than my colleagues. As I sit here, I'm thinking to myself, A, this is a new regulation coming down, so there does need to be a phasing period because it's new to our citizens. It's not like we have red lights regulation where our kids are six, seven, eight years old. They're driving in the car. They know a red means stop. So, you know, they... We... For those of us that have kids, we are kind of, as they're born, we're kind of training them on what traffic regulations are. This is new. There needs to be a

4:03:13•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Councilwoman. City Manager, go ahead. Alex, go ahead.

4:08:38•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Alex, very much. Councilwoman Perez, go ahead.

4:08:41 – 4:09:25•MPMichaela Perez

Yeah, I agree. I think getting ahead of it is very important. I think I just have one more clarifying question. And I know that we're going to crank out the nuts and bolts of what this educational course would look like, whether it's in person. And I'm just curious, because I anticipate, and maybe this is feedback that we can here again in the future. But for the courses that would be in person, I'm just curious if there's anything to consider when it comes to merging both folks that are above 18 and those that are under the age of 18. And to clarify, I'm supportive of having both opportunitie

4:10:36•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

That's good. Thank you, Sergeant Jentz. Was that a test one? Olympia, go ahead.

4:10:57•MPMichaela Perez

I know that there was just discussion about having an in-person opportunity, and that's where I was considering the merging of both age groups. Yeah.

4:11:17•MPMichaela Perez

Okay. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't going to be any issues with having folks above 18 and those that are under the age of 18 together in one space.

4:11:32•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

MR. GONZALES, WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING IN RESPONSE TO? WE'LL GO TO MAYOR PORTUNE. GO AHEAD.

4:12:17 – 4:12:34•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Or, I mean, what would be the difference between this and like a traffic school, right, for a young 16-year-old getting a movie citation and he or she attends traffic school coupled with an adult offender, right? There is no, no differences. Would that be right?

4:14:30 – 4:14:44•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

And I would just follow up. I don't know if Sergeant Jens, you can speak to that as to maybe the frequency that would be reasonable to offer in-person classes and that can be aligned with the policy decision that we implement here tonight.

4:15:29•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

A quarterly, yeah. I'm sorry, Council Member, so go ahead and then we'll let Alex.

4:15:39•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Were you going to say something, Alex? Go ahead.

4:16:57•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Alex. Council Member Stone, go ahead.

4:17:00 – 4:18:12•ASAaron Starr

I guess as you think about that, keep in mind you will have situations where somebody's been cited, but the class is literally the next day. So we probably need some sort of reasonable timeline for it shouldn't be the very next class if the class is tomorrow. Maybe it's like the very next class that's at least X number of days. away. But I guess my question is about as far as an in-person class goes, it seems to me it only makes sense to even develop such a class if we're committing ourselves to offering it beyond this first 12-month period. So if we're going to, because let's face it, it's ex

4:18:13•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you for that. And I think along those lines, if you have the option to do it online, then you can do that anytime without waiting.

4:18:23 – 4:18:44•ASAaron Starr

I do have a question about process here. So as far as what's happening right now, and it sounds like we're just simply, as a group here, kind of giving direction to staff, and then staff would be coming back with, let's call it a more perfect ordinance. And then at that point, that would be like a first reading at that point? Is that how this will work?

4:19:36 – 4:20:57•ASAaron Starr

I think it goes beyond that, though, because if we're talking about making this a permanent option, otherwise why bother creating an in-person class? This is just in the . Let me finish. If it's going to be a permanent option, I think we need to come back with a change to the ordinance to make that clear. Because right now, it's really clear that there's only this phase-in period where the education option to get the fine waived is even possible. I really want to resist any public perception that we're doing this for some revenue reasons by making sure that we always have a class for first-tim

4:20:59 – 4:21:38•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. If I can offer, I still believe the 14 days is quite short, given that there could be a number of holidays in between those two weeks. The police departments typically or generally open only, I don't know, eight to five during working hours. I think that's who they're going to submit the proof to. So that really confines when a young prisoner or his or her parents can take them to the police station. I personally would be more comfortable if we align with a 30-day window to submit And that would align with a court case, for example, typically 30 days to submit proof that they've att

4:21:47•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Correct. I think that's a reasonable time in my personal opinion. Councilmember Perrello, go ahead.

4:21:53 – 4:22:53•BPBert E. Perello

Yes. The first part of the thing was helmets. When an individual buys it, I don't know it's going to be a young kid going to buy one. It's going to be mom and dad, uncle and aunt, grandpa and grandma, whoever. There must be an expectation, at least in my mind, that they would also get a helmet. But if there isn't an expectation, the person that sells them the scooter, is the person going to tell them what the rules are in the city of Oxnard? You got to have a helmet? Because I don't want to be providing kids with helmets, not because I don't want them to be safe, but because the people that ar

4:22:54 – 4:23:10•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Yeah, I don't think there's a, I know it doesn't exist, where you can go to Costco and buy a an e-bike for your son or daughter or it's a Christmas gift for someone and there isn't a requirement that stipulates you must buy a helmet or accompany this e-bike.

4:23:10 – 4:23:27•BPBert E. Perello

And I'm wondering how does the parent find out about the requirements with respect to speed or anything else other than walking in and the kid wants one because his buddy or girlfriend or somebody's got one. I want one too. and the holidays are coming up and the prices are going down.

4:23:28 – 4:23:48•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I would just imagine it's like anything else. You buy an item, you read the description and recommendations from the manufacturer, and you make a sound decision whether or not you want to procure that for your son or daughter or relative, and you just make a decision at that point. Any other comments or questions? Any other guidance?

4:24:07 – 4:24:29•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Madam Clerk. Does that provide enough clarity to, I don't know if we're prepared to adopt this item now, or is this something after we make some of these corrections and adjustments? Is that reasonable to just provide a direction, or what are you looking for at this particular time?

4:25:03•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. What is the pleasure of council on this item?

4:26:32 – 4:27:04•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Yes. Instead of 14 days, I would offer 30 days, 30 calendar days to submit... proof that the individual is taking and completed a mandatory education program, whether it's through, much like it's listed up here, an approved course by the city manager or the California Highway Patrol online e-bike safety course, et cetera. That would be my adjustment.

4:27:06 – 4:27:54•ASAaron Starr

So I guess the answer to our city attorney's question, so what I've heard is Several things brought up by various members of this body Specifying the classes of employees that are exempt. So maybe that's code enforcement and law enforcement a sunset provision maybe it's four years extending the number of days to, I guess, 30, we're saying, and offering the class option as a way to waive the fine on a permanent go-forward basis, not just during this short window of time. That's what I've heard, and maybe there's others that I missed, but those are the big ones that I heard that I think maybe we

4:27:55•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Agreement on and I just want to correct what I said. I know I mentioned calendar days, but it's they consistent with the court It's actually 30 business days. Okay. Okay, forgive me for that.

Well, I was just thinking that two years would not be enough. I said five, just because I feel like two years has gone like that. And I want to give folks the opportunity to let the dust settle, learn our lessons, and really make real recommendations. So I just think an ordinance, we have so many administrative things coming back to the table on an annual basis and whatnot. I would really like this program to have an opportunity to learn.

4:31:00•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

The administrative one here where it says or, this way?

If I can add to that, I think it can be highly encouraged and that's why you would need the approval of, you know, the city manager or somebody designated to that. So do every effort, but we also want to make sure that it's accessible if need be.

4:31:34 – 4:31:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

So just to be clear, with the OR, does a person who receives a citation have the option independently to do an online course or do an in-person course that is being offered through our police department? Is that what I'm understanding?

4:32:25 – 4:32:52•ASAaron Starr

So if if somebody does second mayor the mayor pro tems motion I would like to make an amendment at that time or if we can say that no motions actually made yet because none's been seconded I'd like to add still add on to that The permanent ability to get a fine wave for first-time offenders by attending a class And mayor pro tem I'll second your motion I

4:32:55•BPBert E. Perello

Second second questions questions well With the amendment just for clarity.

4:33:02•ASAaron Starr

I'm sorry Are you seconding with with my addition or you or not?

4:33:07•MPMichaela Perez

With mayor pertains mayor pertains okay, so at that point.

4:33:12 – 4:33:42•ASAaron Starr

I guess I need to make a motion to amend right So my motion to amend to change it so that a class will be offered on a permanent basis for first-time offenders not just only during this transition period that would be my proposed amendment if someone wants to second that yes I would second that okay you would second that the amendment amendment first time but I have a question

4:33:43 – 4:34:20•BPBert E. Perello

Respect to the mayor Pro Tem asking the question is there any other business that requires us to inform the buyer of? Obligations I could be wrong, but it seems to me the last time I bought a water heater There's a requirement by a local source on the water heater you got to comply with the city rules Can somebody in the staff tell me if I'm right or wrong? The water heaters Isn't there a requirement a local seller of a water heater in the city of Oxnard has to tell the purchaser of the local requirements in the city of Oxnard?

4:34:23 – 4:34:39•BPBert E. Perello

And I'm bringing that up because the mayor implied that there is nothing else in the city that does that with respect to my question earlier if a bicycle seller is going to require to tell the buyer. And if I'm wrong, I'll admit it publicly right now.

4:35:04•BPBert E. Perello

Is there somebody from development services or a system manager or public works attorney? knows the answer to that?

4:35:39 – 4:36:02•BPBert E. Perello

State it one more time. Okay a purchaser of a water heater in the city of Oxnard for many say Home Depot Lowe's I don't push Home Depot because they gave money to the city recently Is there a requirement that they inform the purchaser of the water heater? That if it's installed in Oxnard there are rules required about the insulation such as earthquake straps, etc, etc Thank you for that question.

4:36:27•BPBert E. Perello

Okay, thank you very much, and I stand corrected.

4:36:29 – 4:36:53•ASAaron Starr

Thank you. So, Mayor, I guess at this point in time, unless there's further debate on the amendment, maybe we can vote on the amendment so that the motion on the floor at that point would be Mayor Pro Tem's motion as amended if it should be adopted. And then we'd still have opportunities to make further amendments if that's what we want to do. Just trying to bring back Robert's rules of order back into this. Yeah.

4:37:33 – 4:38:03•ASAaron Starr

I Guess I would say then I wouldn't want this to be at the discretion of somebody I just simply wanted to be an ordinary course of business people are violating the ordinance for the first time in their lives and Maybe they just became 18 years of age or something like that. I think we need to make it so that this is something that's just standard procedure rather than trying to get somebody's blessing for in this particular case, let's allow it.

4:38:24 – 4:39:20•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. And Mr. Gonzalez, I'm just, forgive me, I'm just still seeking some clarity on the administrative addition that was added. Are we talking about an approved course by our city manager's department to then be offered by the police department? And then, so I'm just, so is it approved course by the city manager's office or is it So that's one, but if a violator is cited, does he or she have the option to do an in-person course if it's offered, and if they choose not to for whatever reason, can that person take an online course if they want to without any formal approval, just take it, a

4:39:33 – 4:39:46•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

No, but are we saying then that a violator, once we have an in-person course, does not have the option to take an online course? I mean, are we eliminating that option altogether if we're offering an in-person course? Is that my understanding?

4:39:55 – 4:40:12•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Right, but my understanding is correct that we, by default, are making the in-person course mandatory if someone is... Receives a citation absent these other circumstances where they're either from out of town Visiting etc.

4:41:00 – 4:41:46•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Just a follow-up question I don't have. I'm just wondering if there is any empirical data or any research that really supports in-person versus taking an online course as to why we are heavily pushing for an in-person versus giving somebody an opportunity to take an online course. I'm just wondering what the research shows out there as to what is pushing us to go by default in in-person court versus just outright allowing an offender who's 16, 17 years old. I'm just thinking that person that's working or that parent to just simply take an online course, much like we allow young people to take

4:42:21•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

But I'm just wondering why they have to make that appeal versus who better knows their circumstance other than the individual versus they can just sign up for an online course.

4:43:24 – 4:44:55•ASAaron Starr

Yeah, I just wanna bring back the discussion to the amendment that's on the floor. Getting back to 3-401, is it 4E2, where it says, participation in successful completion of the e-bike safety program by a minor and their parent or legal guardian for a first-time violation of the provision of this article will result in one of the following actions. The city attorney is authorized... not to file the citation, may dismiss the citation, or waive any fines and penalties related to the citation. If instead, if instead it could read as follows, I think it would be, it would accomplish what I think I

Can you repeat it? I'm sorry. After, will result in, and can you repeat that?

4:44:59 – 4:45:28•ASAaron Starr

So basically, the first two lines will remain as is all the way through the words, will result in. And then the replacement language for the rest of that sentence would be the dismissal of the citation and a waiver of any fines and penalties related to the citation. And that way we're not leaving it up to somebody's discretion as to whether someone's going to be able to take a class to waive the fine.

4:45:32•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Was that the second that you second that motion? Okay.

4:45:53 – 4:46:58•ASAaron Starr

Correct. Because, you know, if someone is an egregious offender once, they're going to be an egregious offender in the future. And at that point, you nail them. But for the very first time, there's very few that are going to be so egregious that it would shock us. I say let's just make sure that we don't have an abuse of discretion by not allowing somebody to take this class. I think by codifying it the way that I'm codifying it, I think it makes it so that we're not going to have an abuse of discretion issue ever. And if there is any sort of egregious violation, there's probably other rules t

4:48:17•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

No, go ahead. I'll let you finish this one. Yeah, go ahead.

4:48:29•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Is the motion, was that your amended motion?

4:48:31 – 4:49:06•ASAaron Starr

So the amendment that I recommended was adopted by this body. So now we have a motion as amended. We have Mayor Pro Tem's motion as amended. I think what would be helpful, because some of this seemed more like they're concepts, not actually codifications, it would be helpful if somebody could state back, I don't know whether it would be the city attorney can do that, or the city clerk, but I assume the city attorney would be able to state back, this is what is currently covered by this motion as amended, so we're very clear what we're voting on.

4:49:42•ASAaron Starr

It's and, and a waiver. It's and, not or.

So I'm sorry, just to add more to the madness. So we were highly encouraging the in-person participation, but also having the option for the CHP.

4:51:06 – 4:51:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I just want to add, just to be clear, to Councilwoman Rodriguez's statement, we encourage someone to take in in-person course, correct? But they can take an online course without any approval, without having to go to, I just wanna make sure I understand this correctly, without having to appeal to a city manager or somebody to be able to take an online course, right? Do they have the option to take an in-person? It's highly encouraged because it's being offered, or you can take an online course to satisfy the completion certificate. Is that?

4:52:21 – 4:52:55•ASAaron Starr

I have a question with the motion now as amended. So today, as proposed, we have this 30 business day rule during this transition phase and period, but we don't have the equivalent language for after the transition period. So, you know, I'm sure staff could come back and put that language in there so that it doesn't, otherwise you're leaving it open ended after the phase-in period, there's no limit to the time when somebody could take a class, and I think there ought to be a limit

4:52:59 – 4:53:18•BPBert E. Perello

Excuse me, Mayor, I'd make a motion we extend the meeting past 10 o'clock, because we're going to make it. Thank you, sir. I know Mayor Pro Tem thinks we're not going to. We tried, yeah. I second. We're going 10 o'clock, and I've got to tell you, and this is interesting, but as long as I served on this council, this is the worst example of making sausage I've ever experienced. Okay.

4:53:18•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Well, we have a first and a second. Madam Clerk, are there any speakers?

4:53:42•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I think you have the floor, Council Member Starr. Go ahead.

4:54:17 – 4:54:36•ASAaron Starr

You could write up and bring it back to the council so we have our our final language I know you're eager to adopt something tonight, but I just it's hard for me to imagine that I would think you'd want to take a little bit of time to make sure that Everything works together that there doesn't create conflicts in the language

4:55:16•ASAaron Starr

So you would just simply append it to the end of that sentence in E2, right?

4:55:30•ASAaron Starr

So if there's no objection, I guess we have a motion as amended that's ready to be voted on. I just have a quick statement, Mayor.

4:56:40 – 4:57:07•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

If I can just make a comment, I really appreciate the deep and robust discussion we had here as a council, and certainly thank you, Mayor Pro Tem, for having the initiative to bring this before us and having given direction to staff to lead in getting this initiative implemented and getting ahead of it. So that takes leadership. So thank you for making that happen. And I think this is really good. Madam Clerk, I call for the vote if there's no further discussion.

4:57:25•ASAaron Starr

So Mayor Bertram, you should have voted no on that motion then, yeah.

4:57:31•BPBert E. Perello

But the deal is there's a levy that protects District 1 and District 2 that's significant, so I don't want to fool around with 10 o'clock, Mayor Bertram.

4:57:40•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

So we will go to the next item on the agenda. This is item N2, and Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead on your recusal.

4:58:10 – 4:59:49•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

So N2 entails, first this is from the Community Development Department. Subject funding agreement with the Ventura County Watershed Protection District for the Santa Clara River Levee 3 project. The recommendation that the city council want to adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager or designee to execute a funding agreement. A8626 with the County of Ventura Watershed Protection District. in an amount now to exceed $2,356,779.24 for the Santa Clara River Levee III construction project consisting of A, one million from the California Department of Water Resources, DWR, grant 460015992,

5:00:01 – 5:00:17•ASAaron Starr

Before you start, I just want to mention that Mr. Kamusik, I think you were actually the person that introduced the ordinance back in 1973 or something like that to have a separately elected mayor. Is my memory correct on that?

5:00:19•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Okay. I should know your name correctly.

5:00:23•ASAaron Starr

I just remember my reading. I go, oh, yeah, I know that guy's name. Thank you for that.

5:11:41 – 5:11:55•ASAaron Starr

I have a question on this particular slide that you're on right now. So is the $2.4 million that we're being asked to vote on today, is that a phase one cost or is that a phase two cost?

5:12:01 – 5:12:15•ASAaron Starr

Okay. So how much, if this is phase two, how much have we already spent so far? How much would be remaining? And I assume that there's a lot of grants out there that's going to be assisting us with this.

5:13:00 – 5:13:15•ASAaron Starr

Maybe I can just clarify my question After this motion is adopted assuming it is uh-huh and How much additional funding will be required from the city, if any, to finish this?

5:15:27•ASAaron Starr

So for this particular project, how many homes are we going to be able to protect as a result of getting this done?

5:15:38 – 5:15:54•ASAaron Starr

That's huge, folks, because... There's also the, I mean, I'm sure FEMA's charging a lot for the flood plain for this. And to the extent that we can get this done, would that reduce, perhaps, their insurance costs?

5:16:41•ASAaron Starr

I assume that it's a competitive market for loans. So if someone wanted to get their loan refinanced, they can probably eliminate that cost.

5:16:56•ASAaron Starr

Right. So there's reasons to move from a federal mortgage to something other than a federal mortgage.

5:17:07•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, sir. Any other questions or comments? Madam Clerk, do we have any public speakers for this item?

5:17:20•BPBert E. Perello

Yes. Can you share with the Council if you get flood insurance and there is a flood, what does the flood insurance pay for? Who gets the flood insurance?

5:17:54•BPBert E. Perello

Not the individual buying the house, but the person holding the mortgage.

5:18:13 – 5:20:21•BPBert E. Perello

The only comments that I have, counsel, in the very center of those icons, there was a group called Flood Zone Justice. I was heavily involved in that, but I was involved with a lot of other neighborhood councils. And it was South Bank, Sierra Linda, River Ridge, Windsor North. Victoria Estates They were all involved in 6,000 homes. That's how this happened and at least me 15 years involved in this thing I knew mr. Kapusi when he had a full head of hair and And I was much younger, but the issue that this addresses People had to stick together because I learned a long time ago It's very easy to

5:20:21•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Mr. Perel, for that insight. Yes, Member Starr?

5:20:23•ASAaron Starr

So, Mayor, if there are no other questions, I would like to move the recommended action.

5:20:28 – 5:20:45•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I'll second it. And certainly a praise to Ashley Golden. Thank you, Mr. Perel, for the historical insight and for highlighting those people in those communities that had the vision, the will to get together to do something like this. And thank you for your work, Mr. Kapusik. Thank you.

5:20:50 – 5:21:02•BPBert E. Perello

Does the city's engineer have anything to add before we end this? Because I know you've been heavily involved, a significant part, and your quality of work is tremendous. Do you have anything to address or add?

5:21:27•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. Madam Clerk, if there are no speakers, we have a first and a second.

5:21:49 – 5:23:29•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Mr. Capuzzi. Only you know the amount of work and effort you put in. Thank you so much. Thank you. The last item on our agenda is item N3. This is from the Public Works Department. Subject, Public Project Agreement 327-00065 with Toro Enterprises for Neighborhood Street Resurfacing Project, Cal Giesler. Specification number of Public Works 2609. Recommendation that the City Council approve and authorize one, a total of $4,384,787 in project funds for the neighborhood street resurfacing project, Cal Geisler. Specification number of Public Works 2609. to the Mayor to execute an agreem

5:23:32 – 5:24:04•MPMichaela Perez

Thank you, Mayor. First, I just want to thank you, Michael, and your team for bringing this item forward. It's definitely an exciting opportunity for the Cal Giesler neighborhood when it comes to neighborhood street resurfacing. I know there's been a lot of communication in terms of at least a notice, I believe, that had went out. But I wanted to, before I highlight two things to point out, I wanted to first start off, if you can provide just an overview for the public. about this item.

5:26:23 – 5:27:08•MPMichaela Perez

Thank you. And just for timeline, I know here it says on 4-12 the work is tentatively scheduled to begin in August and continue for about 60 working days until October 2026, despite any potential delays. And one thing I did want to point out on page 4-13, Know it says here that staff's gonna work closely with the Cal Giesler neighborhood council to keep them informed But I just wanted to share that update that as of right now The Cal Giesler neighborhood council is not active And so I know that there's probably other mechanisms to get out the information, but just wanted to kind of put that on

5:27:18 – 5:27:53•MPMichaela Perez

The last thing I wanted to highlight on 414 was really regarding the available project budget. And just for clarity, right, fund number 104, Measure O funding, we're going to be utilizing aspects of Measure O funding for this project. Is that correct? And the reason why I highlight that is because oftentimes folks in the south end always wonder how measure O funds are being utilized in South Oxnard and I think this is just a great example of how measure O funds are going to be utilized in District 6.

5:28:01 – 5:28:30•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you. If I could just make a comment, I am in full support of this. This is extremely important to improve the condition of our streets, enhance commuter safety, extend the life of our roads, and also save us money in the sense that we don't have to do a whole full rebuild. So I applaud you for these efforts and for your time to go out there and prioritize the streets that you do. So thank you very much. Go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem.

5:31:47 – 5:32:22•ASAaron Starr

If there's not any other questions, I make the motion to approve I do have questions So by the way Cal Giesler deserves this I think that they they need they need their streets resurfaced I Guess my question is on the the sources of funds. So I'm looking at page 414 and Noticing that there's six hundred thousand dollars. It's being Paid by the water operating fund in the wastewater operating fund.

5:33:39 – 5:34:03•ASAaron Starr

Would it be possible to see how those calculations were done? I mean, if it's a flat amount, I don't know if that information is readily available. Obviously not available at this very moment, but would it be possible to just see the underlying calculations for, because I don't know if it should be 600,000 or 400,000 or 800,000. Somehow you've come up with this number.

5:34:59 – 5:35:17•ASAaron Starr

Right. I'm just, so should I be looking at like item number 24, adjust manhole frame and cover to finish grade? Is that the? Correct. Okay. And are there any other line items that would be associated with the, where the $600,000 could be derived?

5:35:30 – 5:36:07•ASAaron Starr

Okay, but I've seen these numbers in earlier street resurfacing projects, smaller dollar figures than this, but I've seen that before. So what exactly is... Second... So then what is the exact meaning of this table on page 414? If that's not the source of the funds, what am I looking at? Okay, so those are the available dollars in the project budget. Okay, so we're not going to... Okay, got it.

5:38:51•ASAaron Starr

for this particular phase. Right. For the Cal Giesler, this particular public project agreement. Right.

No, I just wanted to share that I really appreciate that you all are looking at which funds expire first, how do we leverage the resources we have, and just what I understand this chart to be the 23.6 million is just like the line items of where we're pulling from, right? Let's see here.

5:40:11•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

I appreciate that Thank You mr. Wolf. I know we have a motion on table To adopt the item is recommended.

5:40:20 – 5:40:46•BPBert E. Perello

Oh, thank you, but I'd like to go get smaller Mr.. Wolf when when we're using some of these funds one of the funds is a bond fund if if we'd had the bond monies that a specific member of council's organization sued to prevent us from using, we wouldn't be touching these other amounts of money, is my understanding, going after general fund, measure O?

5:41:24 – 5:41:59•BPBert E. Perello

Thank you. And in my view, with my personal opinion, the time lost and the lost opportunity and the expense if we were to do the sell the bonds now, we can lay at the feet of specific individuals and groups. And I just wanted to say that. And I would also like you to introduce, I don't serve on public works committees anymore. So the gentleman that you've conversed, I don't, I've never met him and I feel it's disrespectful if I don't say hello and I apologize not having met you and I don't even know your name. What is your name?

5:42:44•BPBert E. Perello

Thank you very much. And thank you for your work here.

5:43:23•LALuis A. Mc Arthur

Thank you, Madam Clerk. There will be no further business on the agenda. There's no objections. We adjourn. Thank you, everyone.