City Council - Regular Meeting

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

YEAH, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS ITEM NUMBER D TO OUTSIDE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT FINDINGS.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.

YES. I THOUGHT WE WERE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS IT. THAT'S WHY I HAVE MY HAND UP.

sorry consent consent agenda item g approval of minutes june 16 2026 work study session okay you have a chance to vote yay or nay and so is your vote nay to approve the agenda i hear no um sorry i need a table so oh okay so i have to wait for somebody else to second the motion table yes And so nobody's seconding the motion to table the minutes.

And I might point an order of that, Mayor, that part of this meeting has already come and passed. She should have done that during the agenda portion, setting the agenda.

Mr. Mayor, I move to adopt a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute the Washington State Public Works Board loan agreement and accept $650,000 in funding for the old Clifton Road water system intertie project.

Yes, I know that we haven't been able to meet for the last couple of times, but there was questions around the inner tie, especially. OK, so one of the questions was whether that I had was around the design. And so. We were going to study a little bit more about what the impact of fluoridation was because McCormick Woods isn't currently fluoridated under the current system. But it was unclear whether or not it would become fluoridated under the inner tie. So we were going to study that more to understand that. and then understand the cost of the fluoridation. And so kind of having a better und

Sorry, just to clarify. So would the design already include the equipment necessary to fluoridate?

Yeah, I move to adopt a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute an interlocal agreement with Kitsap County Department of Emergency Management and Kitsap Transit for emergency fueling support.

IF YOU COULD GO GET OUR OTHER ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

COUNCILMEMBER WARDEN. I MOVE TO APPROVE CONTRACT AMENDMENT 21 TO THE COMMUNITY EVENT CENTER DESIGN CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $297,453 AS PRESENTED. SECOND.

email questioning whether we could postpone this or not. And I responded that basically we've seen when items or design work gets postponed or projects get postponed that the costs only increase. so i'm strongly in favor of this i don't like obviously don't like spending additional money when we don't have to but we know that we need to get this project on the road and shovel ready so i'm in favor of allocating the funds for this and i'm sure that the finance committee has looked at this too that's more marcy yeah so i just want to make sure that

This particular motion and what's put in front of us conflates more than one project. And so one of those projects is getting outside funding that is already set, the other we're still working on. I just wanna make sure we have nothing that's going to foul up any understanding we have with the PFD or the funding mechanisms that are in place with these changes.

So two things I would ask for future reference. I'm going to vote in favor here tonight, but I would like to ask whether it's coming direction from you or at least have Director Crocker and team maybe look at that. It would be nice to be able to have that laid out in future iterations because we are going to have a little bit of that confluence happen because all this is going to happen at the same time. So we can know what's being allocated to what. And that I hope somebody's in the background making sure that it's not just somebody checking off a box saying, hey, we did this activity across

I have seen what Director Crocker and his team do just isn't here tonight.

Yeah, are the shoreline improvements, are those permits already pulled, already accepted, already to have a design?

Once that's approved, we could actually start that process, though, after the demolition, correct?

Okay, so you've had three years in the making. We're about to get it now? Yes. That's why I was asking, because I know it obviously takes forever, so I thought I'd have.

Thank you. It's my understanding that the work isn't so much design as additional work that needs to be done because of the delay of the building, the construction. um and as to that it states in the amendment whereas in july 2026 the city identified the need for additional services for continued responses to city permit review comments constructability review comments coordination with outside agencies pse kitsap health district um which are sorry which are pse kitsap health district u.s army corps of engineers and additional meetings required to advance the projects to bid ready documents an

IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED TO BUILD SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THE ON BAY STREET IN FRONT OF THE BANK THE BANK'S PROPERTY SO UM COUNCIL MEMBER ONE MORE QUESTION UM WITH THE SHORELINE WITH RAISING THE ROAD ARE WE WE'RE OBVIOUSLY PUTTING A NEW OUTFALL NO WE'RE USING EXISTING OUTFALLS USING OUTFALLS OKAY NO QUESTIONS

I MOVE TO APPROVE CONTRACT AMENDMENT 23 TO CONTRACT C066-20 FOR THE COMMUNITY EVENT CENTER DESIGN CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $44,942 AS PRESENTED.

COUNCILMEMBER TRANERI, GO AHEAD. MR. BOND. In your opinion, does this amendment here put a wrap on this portion of the construction project or of the not the construction project, but on the engineering and design project for this portion of this?

I STATED AYE. THAT WAS AN AYE? YEAH. CAN YOU PLEASE?

I GOT YOU COVERED, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, IN FRONT OF YOU IS A LIST OF THE QUESTIONS FROM THE FIVE TOPICS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A WEEK AGO TONIGHT. SWIPE IT TRYING TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE CAN. I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANYTHING ON THIS PAGE TEAM. IT WAS JUST ME GETTING OUT AND PUTTING SOME WORDS TO A DOCUMENT SO THAT WE'D HAVE A STARTING PLACE TO WORDSMITH THIS TONIGHT SO THAT IN HOPES OF MOVING THIS ALONG SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AND I DO HAVE A POSSIBLE LAST QUESTION WE COULD TALK ABOUT AS WELL. SO I SAW COUNCILMEMBER ROSAPEPE AND THEN I THINK COUNCILMEMBER DEANER.

John, I think you did a great job taking 10 questions and pulling them down to five. I usually at this point in time use the question, is there anything I can't live with? And I can live with these. I think they are fairly open-ended. We're going to get some very detailed responses. And since we have only 30 minutes in the interview with possible any follow-up questions, I'm comfortable with these five questions. I wouldn't add a sixth.

Councilmember Deane. So I agree about not adding a six but but before I'm in complete agreement can you remind me what what does the presentation format look like like is there an opening opportunity and how many minutes is that and I'm because I'm concerned about time and a half hour and so that's why I'm not necessarily in favor of six but if there's other things that this applicant will be speaking to like who they are and that'll chew away some of the available time. So I'm trying to recall what that looked like.

I don't believe we set anything in stone at this point because we were trying to get to how many and what those questions might look like and ran out of that time last week. So I think let's finish the conversation around the questions and then we'll go to that structure to be able to finalize that if that's okay.

So to get to, I'm in agreement with Jay. I can live with these. I think you did a good job. I don't have any changes.

All right. Council Member Crenary. Council Member Morrissey, thank you for putting these together. They look fine to me, and as long as we're all on board with asking the same questions of every candidate, we're good to go.

council member warden yeah i'm not a fan of giving you too much credit but uh good job appreciate it appreciate your efforts i'm i'm fine with all five uh questions as well thank you perfect so just just for human me humoring me sake i'm just going to throw out this sixth one um oh i'm sorry thank you for the help i'm not used to looking at the screen uh council member deadman

The public might be a little bit confused because in the agenda online, there are no attached questions under this item. Correct. And my second comment would be that it would be nice to have included a question to the candidates as to if they are aware that they might be subject to litigation because they would be filling a vacancy that is being disputed.

Okay. Thank you for that. So, the last question I was looking at possibly toying with and adding to this, I didn't, so I just wrote it down just so that we didn't have it out there, but I brought it with me just in case, was council members regularly work with colleagues who hold different viewpoints and must make decisions based on incomplete information. How do you approach collaboration, respectful disagreement, and ultimately reaching a decision? So, again, I would also echo the comments of the rest of you. We're gonna run into some time constraints, but I just wanted to throw that out the

Just move together with the five would be my recommendation.

I'm seeing head nods. I agree. If we had more time, I think that's a great question as well.

Perfect. Okay. We have our five questions. The last piece of that puzzle is the actual layout and design of what we want this to look like. So do we want to allow for an introduction period? I THINK YOU'RE GETTING A GOOD CHUNK OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT HERE. SO COUNCILMAN ROSAPEPE.

BASICALLY WHAT I'VE SEEN IN INTERVIEWS IS THERE'S AN OPENING STATEMENT BY THE PERSON, PRETTY MUCH LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES, AND THEN THERE'S A WRAP-UP STATION, WRAP-UP COMMENT BY THE PERSON AT THE END. and each of those are like two minutes, so we're down to 25 minutes with five questions, and that's the way I would do it. If they have any material that they wanna pass to the committee, I've seen that before, that would be given for us to preview later. I mean, they've given us their, ESSENTIALLY A RESUME, SO I THINK WE'LL BE FINE WITH THAT. THAT'S MY TAKE. OKAY. I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

CAN I HAND THIS BACK OFF? ARE YOU GOING TO? NO, EITHER WAY.

YOU'RE DOING JUST FINE BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR PROCESS.

THEN I'M GOING TO KEEP MOVING. I SAW COUNCILMEMBER WARREN AND THEN I'LL COME TO COUNCILMEMBER DEAN.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT JAY SAID. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME TO PLAY AROUND WITH, SO I SUPPORT THE BRIEF INTRODUCTION UP FRONT, THE CLOSING STATEMENT, FIVE QUESTIONS. I WILL WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE GRADE THESE APPLICANTS AS WELL.

councilmember warden yeah uh we have their resumes um that they sent to us in the application we don't need to them to spend their time to basically read that off right um so i'm i'm good with having their their resumes and um reviewing those beforehand which we already have i have um yeah and then not using the they're 30 minutes for that so

I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER WARDEN. WE KNOW WHO THESE FOLKS ARE. WE'VE GOT THE RESUMES. WE SHOULD BE EDUCATED ABOUT IT INITIALLY. LET'S JUMP RIGHT IN. LET'S GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS, BUT LET'S JUMP RIGHT IN AND GET TO THE MEAT OF THE REASON THEY'RE THERE. PERFECT.

SO I'M HEARING, MAKE SURE I'M GETTING A CONSENSUS HERE, A TWO-MINUTE OPENING. two minute closing and we'll attempt to keep each one of these topics to about a five minute period is that something we can all agree to just that up up to two minutes yeah okay i got a question for you and i just i want to get ahead not there and then i'll come to you mr mayor Is that a no, Councilmember Tenary?

I'm not really keen on a two-minute orientation or letting us know who they are because we know who they are, as I mentioned already.

I get that. You're not going to get much in that two minutes either. As we know, three minutes goes quite quickly for most. So I think... I'm okay with the two minutes. I like to hear what they want to lead with. I can read a lot on that paper, but I think how they summarize that, and for those of us who aren't as great at brevity, it can be a good opportunity to showcase whether or not you have that skill set or not, or maybe you're really verbose, like at least one person up here on this dais, and that would become very apparent. I think I hear that we're good with two, two and keep it in at

To that end, I believe that we should be rigid with our time. It presents equity across the spectrum for everybody.

Concur. Agreed. Yes. That's all I have to offer.

We feel concurrent on this. We're set. Any other questions on this process?

Council Member Rospepe. There was a question that came from the dais about how we're going to grade, make notes. What is the follow-on after we interview? I believe, Brandy, we still have eight, correct? That we have eight candidates that we're interviewing on the fourth and the sixth. So how do we move forward with that?

So I believe in my last discussions, we haven't gotten that far because I didn't have a conversation with CITY ATTORNEY ARCHER. BUT I BELIEVE AFTER WE'VE COMPLETED ALL OF OUR INTERVIEWS, THE PLAN WAS TO MOVE INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THAT. AND THEN IF ANY ACTION WERE TO ARISE, WE'D COME BACK INTO A SESSION, WELL, WE WOULD COME BACK TO A SESSION. I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT HAPPENING ON THE FOURTH OR THE SIXTH. BUT I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH CITY ATTORNEY ARCHER THAT I DIDN'T GET ANY OF THAT WRONG BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MORE THAN A WEEK OR SO SINCE WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

nights completed and that we bring that executive session because I want you to be able to spend time with that, sit on that, think about that and then have our executive session on the 11th with action to come out.

YES. COULD WE BUILD IN A THOUGHT PROCESS THAT HEADING OUT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WE ARE READY TO PRESENT OUR TOP THREE FAVORITES? OR TOP FOUR. OTHERWISE I SEE THERE'S A LOT OF TIME SPENT ON PERHAPS APPLICANTS THAT REALLY WE ALL THINK ARE NEAR THE BOTTOM.

I'm hoping that we'll be able to gain that sense when discussing in our executive session the qualifications. I would think that of an eight there should be no more than a top 50 percent that you would want that we should be able to coalesce around and then take that from there. I don't know that I want to get on that process because I think the things that you might value might be different than something council member Rosa Pepe might value.

I was talking more internally being prepared to represent your top three.

Oh, so you're just suggesting, hey, come with a mindset knowing that we're going to need to select.

Charlie was pretty clear that we can't do any sort of ranking. Correct, correct. Just as a mindset coming out and being prepared to pick your top or talk about your top choices.

Anything else on the process? City Clerk Wallace, would you be so kind as to set those expectations with our candidates ahead of time via email, letting them know the structure and we may as well because, well, I guess they're not public because I didn't put them out there yet. We could make them public. Do we want to just let them have the questions ahead of time or just leave it as is?

For me, these questions, they can answer on the spot. It would have been a couple that Scott had out there last week. I would have said, let's give them some time.

I think they got an idea of at least the topics from last week, so they just won't have the actual... Okay, so we are just going to be asking them to make sure that they're ready for a two-minute opening statement, a two-minute closing statement, and there will be five questions. If we run out of time, we run out of time. For each question? For each question, yep.

Council Member Rospepe. I just wanna make sure I have dates and times since I'll be on Zoom. So it's the fourth and the sixth, and I believe we're starting at five o'clock Pacific time. Okay, I'll be available.

Did she put it out on our calendars? I could be wrong. I could have just put that on my personal calendar.

Appreciate it, thank you. Anything else before I put this one to bed and hand this meeting back to our mayor?

I'LL JUST RELATE THAT MY EXPERIENCE WAS BACK HERE WHEN I WAS INTERVIEWED.

OKAY. I don't know that we have all the facilities to do that because it's still a public meeting because we're in a quorum in the back. I don't know that we don't either.

we won't go there mr mayor last question is uh part of that mr mayor can can we get support from the clerk's office the those evenings as well or uh yeah okay she's right there well i'm just making sure we're running it through the proper procedure so uh thank you we'll make it happen we appreciate setting up on a work study fashion office and their support uh hearing that i'm going to turn this meeting back over to our mayor Thank you.

I would like to move it at last. Then we can set a time where there's 10 or 15 minutes, 20 minutes. I don't expect going too long. We got through 10 pages last time. You know, so if we get through another, you know, five to 10 pages, we're ahead of the game. Brandy and I are kind of putting together a red line version. So as we go, so we'll be able to bring everything to you as we go. So just hang in there and we'll move it to the end of the meeting if that's okay with everybody.

After 11. After 11. After 11, I'm sorry, department directors.

Is this something you're trying to promote citywide?

I'll point out that some of the automated watering systems go by days of the week instead of dates. And so that's the challenge for people who rely on it.

a drought conditions and four years yeah four years in a row so and uh we just need to be mindful of the resources we have council member warden yeah at my house um just because the cost of the water but we actually just cut our irrigation time in half and it's just as green i mean it's just as good you know so we were just excessively watering every year so we just took our timer and cut it in half to see what it would do and I probably could go even lower than what I do. But it's working just great. It's fine. The consecutive McCormick makes all the sense with the irrigation systems. So I pr

I think I'm stating the obvious that before we station staff out in communities, I would make sure we've explored all of our options, including what technology can afford to us and getting the word out before we start putting bodies out in neighborhoods.

Yeah, I'll just add that I'm sure there are innovative solutions across the nation. So, you know, this is not new.

Did they talk about what that conservation looked like?

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. DIRECTOR RYAN, DID YOU HAPPEN TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO ANY OF THE OTHER HOAs? I KNOW MY PARTICULAR HOA, WELL, I'M NOT IN THE BIG MCCORMICK HOA, I'M IN THE MEADOWS HOA. I KNOW WE'RE ON CITY OF BREMERTON WATER SO IT DOESN'T necessarily impact our system for the city, but are you reaching out to others? Because I know that I, for instance, voluntarily waited way too long to get my irrigation set up on the year just to try and conserve the water, knowing we're going into that. I'm trying to fight that back and bring it back to life, but I think I've lost a portion of

Thank you. I wanted to state a correction in the investigation. If you read it, it'll say that... I'm sorry, I was trying to look for the exact language. It stated at the beginning... Specifically? Oh, sorry. It states at the beginning... Page councilmember sure Dedmon was contacted for an interview, but the councilmember chose not to participate That is not accurate so I just wanted to make sure that that was clear that that's not accurate and I would say that it's important to understand that I work at a different timeframe than everybody else does for many reasons. But without going into mo

Yes, sorry, my hand was up. Sorry, just a quick thing as to that. Unlike every, I know that, I hope that I'm not always compared to what everybody else is capable of and the timing that they're available. We were given two days availability over two days for what was said to be 15 minute meetings that were gonna be held over two days. And I apologize that that did not meet my availability. And no, I should not be held to everybody else to say it worked for everybody else. It didn't work for me. And I can't apologize. Unfortunately, this is a part-time job, and I have a lot I have to work for m

yeah mr mayor what i do uh we reviewed and updated sales tax and reit revenues sales tax increased over this month of as compared to last year the reit revenue is still down this is mainly due to a slowdown in development the important part is that we're still hitting at or above our budgeted numbers that we put together We reviewed the city's updated funding plan for Bethel phase one, which is the blueberry and salmon berry improvements With the award of a grant the city is applying for the project will be fully funded and on schedule for the original completion dates That's good news We disc

We have a meeting set for August 11th at 3 p.m. at the Lumsum building.

where an aggressive dog isn't controlled and attacks your dog or yourself well and in this situation it's a repeat yeah repeat repeat repeat situation in this neighborhood can we get some more information because i didn't get a sense to where it happened and or if the chief might have some insight into what was reported and when um i'd be curious i can certainly look into that for you and let the council know off of flower avenue

I don't mean to volunteer, but I'm gonna volunteer land use on this right now, looking at our committee structure right now.

Yeah, she provided, she's actually done a lot of work. She provided Remerton's code as well as, you know, their animal ordinance as well as their infractions code. And it sounds like, I'll send it out.

Well, you send it to Brandy. Yeah, of course.

Yeah, I would too because, I mean, well, like she pointed out, it's been 25 years, 26 years, 27 actually since it's been looked at, so.

Thank you. Nick, is the CVO, is that a condition of employment?

Council Member Rose-Pepe. Randy, I was just gonna ask any information we could get before the 11th meeting would be appreciated from the society.

ANY HEARTBURN WITH THAT? No, but I have a tangential topic. You want to change the topic? No, I have a tangential topic because I would like to just put in everybody's mind in the budgeting process that maybe we budget for some phones for council. I spent just a few dollars being able to extract some of the information off my phone for those public records requests, but it'd be a lot easier. if Brandi could just do it.

Perfect, well I appreciate you taking care of us on your behalf.

Okay. Quick break. Quick break. What page are we on?

We are on page 11, 3.10, virtual attendance.

See, Scott, I told you January 1st would be a good time. You laughed at me. Just joking.

Yeah. Hey Nick, are you guys using E360? For code? Yeah.

Okay. What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's unfortunate that the tables don't fall into code where they should, and they're referenced as attachments. So we can't access our tables right under the code that speaks to them. We've got to go to another page, and then they only pull up as PDFs. Okay. That's the premium version, and I'm not sure it's... I'll toy around with yours to see how it's different.

All right, thank you. If I could ask everybody to can we go till 8.30? Would that be okay with everybody? Okay, so we stopped at page 11, 310 virtual remote attendance. Does anybody have anything they would like to do on that? We do have at the second paragraph, may not exceed a total of four meetings per year. So even though there's not there. So I'm open to any suggestions on this.

Yeah, I want to make sure that we're asking to notify.

It says council president. Yes. I would ask that to reflect mayor, city clerk.

Okay. And or council president. So that's what paragraph, I'm sorry, what paragraph? Second paragraph. Okay, let's notify. Okay, council, you want to change that to mayor?

City clerk. City clerk and the mayor. Yeah, got it.

There's something that we want to take a look at shortening or go ahead.

I was just to say I don't know what it reads today. My understanding is today is four meetings. We have four meetings of unexcused.

But it sounds like if one of us find it ambiguous, then it's okay.

Okay, I'll put that down as a rewrite. And shorten. And shorten, okay. We can do that, okay. And role and equipment requirements. I'm not sure if we need the equipment requirements. We do have an item on there I think that's worth doing is council member backgrounds be blurred or feature an official photograph of the city of Port Orchard.

And I don't believe there was any mention that you have to have your video cameras on. I think that should be added. And then your top sentence on page 12 has to be able twice.

Okay, I'm sorry, say that again. Must be able to be able? Oh yeah, I didn't get that.

They're not too concerned about your rules. Okay, so equipment requirements, oh yeah, that would be fine. We had a change to take out the duplicate and we wanted to add video camera on, all right? All right. D, presiding officer.

Go ahead, Mark. Can I step back a little bit? Sure. I have a little bit of concern about the last sentence in item C. Councilmember backgrounds will be blurred or feature unofficial photo of the city of Port Orchard. Can we designate what an official photo of the city of Port Orchard is? Many of us have photos of Sinclair Inlet or the marinas. No, no. Good point.

I think it would have to be from the city's... I'm not sure the right word. Stock?

How about it says city supplied background?

Yeah, I mean, if you have pictures you like, send them into the city and ask that they be considered.

Yeah, okay, we'll work on that one sentence, but we got that. Presiding Officer, The difference between a virtual, in other words, saying that the presiding officer really has to be here in chambers. That's the bottom line. Yes.

Okay, everybody okay with that one? Yep. Okay. Okay, meeting requirements and procedures. Go ahead.

it would be quicker if you just said anybody have any changes beginning on page 12. okay that's fine yeah i think so yeah thank you anybody have any changes for the remainder of page 12. go ahead mark please be specific not necessarily changes but i'd like to define professional attire last sentence under dress code 3-11 council members are expected to wear professional attire What exactly in today's world is professional retire? Used to be suit, coat, tie, slacks, and a jacket. It's not any longer.

That's where I went was business casual.

Okay, I'll check with HR on that. The last two sentences have been concerns expressed before and I think they're still legitimate. Anybody doesn't have any problem with that at the top of page 13? Sorry, I don't need to be specific. Okay, everybody good with those? Yeah. Okay.

right uh council meetings on the rest of page 13. go ahead john yeah so right in section four paragraph three to allow for summer winter break the city council shall not hold i would like that to say it shall be customary to not hold i do not want uh future councils to have you got something better yeah i don't think you need that paragraph you adopt

Thank you. And then again on B, you just started with it shall be customary.

Regular council work study meetings at 630 on the third Tuesday. We don't have to box in that it's always a work study on a third Tuesday. I don't even know that that. I don't know that we do either. Now that you're saying some of those things, but I'm just saying if you're going to put that in there, I'd rather it be it shall be customary rather than not. Could we?

OK, so we'll do we'll do that. Combine the A&B and without, you know, by basically we set the agenda. Is everybody OK with that? Yes, OK. Special meetings. Everybody OK with that language? Okay, I put in town halls, so if you turn to page 14, we have town halls, emergency meetings, cancellation and adjournments.

Go ahead, Mark. I'd like to modify city council will hold to may hold. Okay.

I'm down with that one. Okay. Section E? Anything else? I'm sorry. Anything else with D? The first paragraph on the page? Okay. Okay. E. Thank you.

Thanks for writing. Yep. No, absolutely. I just had in my notes on the side, is legal risk included in this? Is this read the way we want it to for legal risk? Charlie?

I apologize, which section are you referring to emergency meetings?

That was my question. OK, so you're good.

Yep, OK, just go ahead. If we could change the second part or the second line where it says is called to deal with, maybe called to address an emergency instead of deal with.

Okay, I can live with that. All right, anything else on E? Okay, F, cancellation and adjournments. Anything else on page 14? Should be running the meeting, darn it. Anything else on page 14? I'm looking, looking, going once, going twice. Okay, we've got duties of presiding officer, so we go over to 15. Is there anything on page 15? I have a comment down under agenda preparation. I do too. Okay, so anything to do with presiding officer 4.03 all the way down to page 15.

Is there anything else on 4.03? Okay great we can go to 4.04 and you're up first mayor.

All right, can I go ahead and, based on the information you just said, or a way to say it, work on rewriting this to make it a little bit more, Fluid's not the right word, but a little bit less formal. Would that be okay with everybody if I start this and then look at that?

The only thing I had to change in here, I mean besides the comments that people are making right now, and sure I'll get right back to you in a second, was in discussion with Brandy, that the request was that we'd get a lot, we'd have a lot less changes if we still hung to the Friday issuing of the packet. Try and do that on Thursday even though that was a request. It's not a realistic. It's not realistic at all. And it would cause us more. Sherrod, go ahead please with your comment. Sherrod, I'm sorry, thank you. Shira, you're muted.

I did too many things. I'm trying to wrap my head around a little bit about... I know that so many emails go around because we don't want to accidentally violate quorum, essentially. Like, you know, like, OPMA laws and stuff. And so I'm trying to have a better... understanding of like a process of getting agenda items on, um, that creates it so it can be like more equitable, less bureaucratic, but not, um, and not kind of, kind of going, having to centralize because it feels like centralizing opens that up. So I don't know. I'm just, I'm trying to understand that a little bit more. Um, so I ha

Well, hold that thought. And as we go through the rest of the document, we'll probably take a look at that.

All right, thank you for your time and we'll be back at the work study, hopefully be able to get this through so we can get another draft out to everybody. I will be letting you know that Charlie had a lot of comments regarding the packet of ethics that we attach that we sent out to everybody. Uh, Charlie provided two more samples. I will get those to you. And so we can take a look at that since that would be an addendum to our rules and policies. And thank you very much for your time and have a great evening back to you, Mayor.

So we had a really good meeting at the Givens Master Plan this past Thursday. So I wanted to thank Director, so Dennis, sorry. Dennis, why am I blanking on your last name right now? I don't know. Just for, I guess, overseeing that meeting and being open to listening to everybody. and so i felt like it was a really productive meeting so i just wanted to mention that and also um i do want to state a concern that the june 16th 2026 meeting uncut version still isn't available on youtube and so i was hoping that I GUESS Y'ALL ARE PUBLISHING EVERYTHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN PUBLISH THE UNCUT VERSION ON

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. last week already, I had to think of what day it was. I got the opportunity to attend a listening session for the KPUD and talking about potentially KPUD taking over electrification services in our area. So I did raise some questions. I did speak as a citizen of this county and just say, I don't have enough information to make a vote on that. It's my understanding that they took some action today to move forward with that. So I know that we have a good long-standing relationship with PSE. If I could see where this might work for the betterment of the people of Port Orchar

So I was quickly doing my research to see where this was.

So I think the takeaway is we're all looking forward to more information.

I want to give a acknowledgement to a young lady in our area. Her name is Charlie and recently, like last week, She competes in karate out of the, I'm gonna say it wrong, H-A-R-U-K-I Karate Studio. And her sensei is Hannah Beers and she owns a facility with her brother, Nathaniel. At 14 years old, she went at a brown belt, she went over to Romania and competed in a world championship and won the whole thing for the US. And she lives right here in Port Orchard. And so that's really cool. I just wanted to give a big shout out for her for stepping way above her age, way out of her ranking, I gues