Commissioners Court - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, July 28, 2026Official site

The Commissioners Court approved a change to the FY27 budget calendar and several grants. They also adopted proclamations and recognized service awards. The reappointment of Scott Roberts to the WTCPUA board and the purchase of Motorola license plate reader software for the Sheriff's Office both failed, leading to a motion to create an ALPR policy.

About this meeting

Government Body
Commissioners Court
Meeting Type
Commissioners Court
Location
Hays County, TX
Meeting Date
July 28, 2026

Published excerpts

Only published remarks appear here. The full transcript is not published.

105 sections (from 106 segments)

9:39 – 11:42•Walt Smith

And that concludes our presentations. Thank you. Judge? Point of personal privilege. I know that there's a couple, none of our retirees are in court today, but there's a couple of them that I'd be remiss if we didn't have an opportunity to talk about. I'll start off with the Cunninghams from the Sheriff's Department. It's been a privilege working with them. as closely as I've had over the last eight years. They've truly been a gift to our county, and I appreciate everything they've done. I haven't had the opportunity to work as closely with some of the other members of the SO's office, but the

11:48 – 12:25•Morgan Hammer

I do think it's important to congratulate all of the retirees again, echoing my colleague. But I will say when it comes to ITU with Jeff and Mark leaving, it's going to be good luck to whoever is filling those shoes because that's going to be a little rough for a while. But Jeff has been such a humble leader. And when I say he's humble, if he even knew that he was being spoke about and he was in a public eye, he'd be like, please stop talking. Um, so I just, I don't know what it's going to be like after he leaves, but I do know that he's always a one call away, even though he hasn't even left

12:27 – 13:01•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

Well, just congratulations to all the retirees. And, and, um, I told Jeff this at his retirement party on Friday, just that he will be deeply missed. He's been such an asset to the County. I've, I've never met someone more dedicated. to serving the county and the people and his fellow colleagues. He's definitely someone that I definitely admire his leadership over the county. And I mean, I may spend a little bit of time around Jeff, but he's just been wonderful and I wish him all the best.

13:02 – 13:42•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

his retirement with his family he definitely deserves it thank you judge yeah I just want to also thank all these retirees for all their hard work in the service that they've provided Hays County for so many years and of course Jeff is such a wonderful dedicated honest amazing person and we are going to miss him I'm sure I mean I'm glad that he will continue to do elections for us and help Jennifer out I know it's a It's very much needed, but I wish him the very best and his family also. I just thank them for allowing Jeff to work for so many years and serving the people of Hays County. Thank

18:30 – 18:57•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

Yeah. ALBERT, THANK YOU. YOU DID SAY IT WELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAVE EVOLVED. I REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST STARTED AND THEN ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE FELT THAT WE NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL DEPARTMENT AND Y'ALL HAVE DONE THAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK EVEN THOUGH JASON COULDN'T BE HERE. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM ALSO. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND Y'ALL HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

18:58 – 19:23•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

COMMISSIONER COHEN? Well, thank you all for all the work, and I want to thank all the individuals that work in these spaces. Your work often goes unseen, but it plays a vital role in keeping our community safe while giving individuals an opportunity to rebuild their lives. And so it's just the work that you all do. I greatly appreciate it every day, what you all do. So thank you very much. Commissioner Hammer.

19:24 – 19:43•Morgan Hammer

So within this proclamation, the fair administration of justice, I think that is one of the number one things that your office does, and you continue to uphold that. That's why we live in America. You're innocent until proven guilty. So I'm blessed that you guys represent those principles, and you work every single day to make sure that those things are a necessity for us in our county. Thank you.

19:47 – 21:28•Walt Smith

I just want to say it. To your point earlier, evolve is a minor word. I mean, from where we started in this process to where we are now, and especially I would say Commissioner Inglesby and I get to see a lot of y'all's work from serving on the bat and some of the changes and more effective means that y'all have implemented in the pretrial services world. I'm sure 90% of our population out there really have no idea what your office does. But y'all are a key to ensuring that our justice system works here. And I really don't know at this point how we functioned or if we functioned in near a well

25:36•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

We'll... If you're right here. One, two, three. One, two, three.

33:26 – 34:22•Walt Smith

I'm just constantly amazed at how y'all have been able to expand the program over the last four to five years. I can't say thank you enough for the outreach to both the elderly community as well as our school age community as well. The resourcefulness where y'all have actually looked at where we have vaccines, where they could be used, and they've being able to pair those needs with those resources and then actively take them directly where that need is present with the mobile unit is amazing to me. And it's a long way from where we were five, six years ago when we would do something for our e

34:24 – 34:52•Morgan Hammer

First of all, to do 2.4 times what you did last year up to July is incredible, and you're continuing on that path. I don't know your department to take feedback and not to pivot and to integrate that feedback and do well with that. So I just want to say thank you so much for working with everybody. Thank you for listening to the constituents and making sure that you implement those plans. You bring them to Commissioner's Court. You are very thorough. You and your department do a great job, and thank you so much for everything you do.

34:54 – 36:20•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

Well, thank you, Matthew, for the update. It's amazing to see those numbers. The immunization vaccine is something that's very close to my heart. And, you know, I'm thankful that we were able to provide the mobile vaccine. And I was just thinking when you were talking about it, that it was Commissioner Smith and Commissioner Schell that allocated ARPA funding to my office to be able to, you know, try and do some work, you know, as a new commissioner and then having Commissioner Inglesby joined me in that effort to get that mobile van. And, you know, when I think back to COVID, you know, if we

37:17 – 38:22•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

No, no, no. It's fine. But Matthew, I also want to thank you and your entire team And thank you for the detailed report and the successes that, you know, we have seen over the years. It's wonderful. But you all do provide such important and vital services to our communities and our residents. And it's just, you know, pretty amazing. I know we talked about the, you know, the immunization ban. And, you know, I really want to see that up and going again. I know that there's been issues with it, but hopefully we can get that started again. I do believe, as Commissioner Cohen has said, immunization

42:07•Walt Smith

I move for the adoption of a new budget calendar, amending it with the budget being presented on August 4th.

45:26 – 45:39•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

Well, Judge, I mean, I'd like the Sheriff's Office to come up and maybe explain this item. And I don't know if it's a new install or if you can just kind of give us some information.

47:19•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

And Chief, when you say law enforcement purposes, are you talking about just Hays County or

49:24 – 50:00•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, I agree that, you know, I wish we would have had a little bit more time to review this. And maybe we can take that time, Chief. I'm not sure if, you know, if vote today is necessary. You know, can we have some time to read through the document? And, I mean, I guess I'd also like to just ask, like, Jordan just said, you know, it's up to the department to determine who they're going to share information with. I don't know if you have that information here today to provide who you might be sharing information with.

52:38 – 54:29•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

So we don't have an ALPR policy right now. That's correct. Okay. So I'm thinking, you know, if we had an ALPR policy and we had within that policy there was some oversight mechanisms, there was a section where, you know, we agree that Motorola is a preferred vendor versus Flock. I mean, the issues with Flock is that we didn't trust that technology and the behaviors of the company. If we had an ALPR policy where it had some real teeth on oversight and approved vendors, I think these kinds of situations would be easier for us to decide, right? And so I'm, that's kind of where my head is, Chief,

54:29•Morgan Hammer

How long has this technology been on the vehicle?

54:34 – 54:56•Morgan Hammer

18 months. Does it help you do your job every single day? Is it on a vehicle in terms of, so it's not stationary, so it moves with the officer, similar to what a body cam would do, but just from a license plate perspective? That's correct. It scans license plates and not faces, correct? That's correct. I trust you, and I trust your judgment. Thank you.

54:57 – 57:08•Walt Smith

Commissioner Smith. I think Chief Bailey made a great point. This is a tool, and Every time we remove a tool from the toolbox that our law enforcement has to do their job, I think it's problematic. I know I've said this in court before, but I go back to, I lived in Washington, D.C. from 1998 until 2012. And in 1998, within the first two months of living there, I learned that I couldn't park on the street for more than two hours because every single police vehicle had license plate readers and I was going to get a ticket. This is not new technology. It's not something that came out of nowhere a

1:02:49 – 1:04:14•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

Yeah. And judge, I just want to say, um, and I guess I'm going to look to Candace's office, uh, you know, because even though, okay, I'm fine taking a vote today, maybe a couple of things. It's not the first time, and Jordan, please don't take this wrong because it's not always your office or whatever, but when we have information that is needed in the backup, it's really helpful to have it prior to us coming to court and just being handed. I mean, and others do it, and so I'm just asking that we please provide that. But Candace, what I was going to say is that I agree with what commissioner C

1:04:19 – 1:05:04•Morgan Hammer

Yes. It's very obvious that our sheriff's office is frustrated. Our DA's office believes that this is a tool for them as well. We put them in charge of our public safety. We put them in charge of making sure that we are safe every single day, day in and day out. I think this is a no-brainer. They're asking for it. They're frustrated with us because we continue to have these conversations. And I do believe that transparency and accountability are extremely important. But I move to authorize payment of a one-year software subscription with Motorola Services for $2,975.03 for two mobile license p

1:06:56 – 1:07:22•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

However, it looks so that we can have a unified stance as a court and other elected officials offices can have Roadmapping so we can avoid these bookends of issues anything else commissioner I was just gonna say and as I mentioned earlier I mean we had some of those discussions with the sheriff's office and so we have information that we can provide and I Agree, I mean Jordan and support what you everything that you said, you know, it has to come from them But I think that we can provide input

1:07:23 – 1:08:11•Walt Smith

Thank you. Please call the roll. Judge, hold on. To the point that our office, pardon me, not our office of general counsel, our civil division of the district attorney's office, I don't think we need to be directing our county administrator to be developing that policy. We should be asking the office of the district attorney and the office of the sheriff, as those elected officials, They should be, if we have the anticipation of a policy such as that, they're going to be the ones who have to implement it. They're going to be the ones who have to do it. And I'm fine. We just said she would. An

1:08:13•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

I mean, I think, I hope Candace understood.

1:08:20 – 1:08:51•Morgan Hammer

I just want to say it's a little frustrating because These things have been in place for 18 months already and I feel like Because it finally hits our desk. We're like we can say something about it and we can stop it. I understand Where we sit as a court, but these are things that they need. These are things that they are asking us to help them with and all we're doing is stopping them and roadblocking them when they've had these in place for 18 months and It's crazy to me. Yeah, go ahead.

1:09:55 – 1:10:12•Walt Smith

I just have a question. I mean, before we vote on this, am I wrong to say that this is outside the purview of the agenda item? I mean, we're not posted to. for this. I'm fine with us moving forward with it. I just want to make sure if we take action today that we're not outside of it.

1:33:56 – 1:40:22•Walt Smith

Thank you. I think that a lot of the comments in the public comment are just not only false but outright outrageous. And I will tell you, as a board member, whenever I was elected to office in 2018, My predecessor, Ray Wisnat, was one of the founding board members of the PUA, and I chose to stay off that board until his term ended in 2020. And the court sought fit to appoint me then. What many people don't understand about the PUA is it is not a sole appointment by the Hayes County Commissioner's Court. It's one of the very few appointments where, once we make an appointment here, the other tw

1:40:31 – 1:41:20•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

I WOULD JUST SAY, JUDGE, THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I DID MENTION IT LAST TIME. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TERM LIMITS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY, NOT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION THAT WE APPOINT MEMBERS TO. You know, because I've heard of other concerns throughout the county, you know, with other appointments that this body makes. And so I just feel that if we're going to do that, then we need to look at every. entity that we appoint people to and see if that is what this court wants to do. And maybe it is the right thing to do to give other people an opportunity. But unt

1:41:23 – 1:41:47•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

Yes, I mean, I agree with Commissioner Inglesby. I think it definitely opens a conversation of All of our boards. I kind of do believe in some term limits. I think there is value to fresh perspective on any board. So just Mr. Roberts has been on the board for how long, Commissioner?

1:41:47 – 1:42:12•Walt Smith

He was the first person appointed after the inception of the board. I believe it was about three months after it was established in 2012. 2012. I believe that's correct. I could be wrong. I know that I was the second person ever appointed to the board. It was the original board until 2020, with the exception of Mr. Roberts, until 2020 when I received my appointment. And within four months, I was the second longest serving person on the board.

1:42:13 – 1:42:27•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

And when these appointments are considered, what's the process to invite other folks who may be interested in joining the board. Does that happen within the organization?

1:42:27 – 1:43:39•Walt Smith

Just as you do anything in your precinct, I've got, I think, nine ESD boards, a couple of other boards that we appoint people to. I'm forever asking people, and at times, this is an exception to the rule because there is other interest out there, but y'all know better than anybody how hard it is to find somebody for some of these boards. And my one concern, I completely agree. I think that new blood in there at times is positive. At times, it's hard to get people to serve on like an ESD board or something like that. This one is different. I will say that one of the reasons that I stayed off th

1:43:40•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

Okay. Okay, that's all I have to say. Commissioner Henry.

1:43:46 – 1:45:21•Morgan Hammer

So last time when we discussed this, I didn't know Mr. Roberts. I've never met him in my life. And so I made the point to ask him my questions and to meet with him and to determine, you know, hey, the biggest thing you hear is conflict of interest. You've heard that a hundred times, right? And he definitely, from the recusing and he, you know, he separates himself from all those things. Saw WHERE HE HAS RECUSED HIMSELF, SO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS THERE, BUT THEN I STARTED TO THINK, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN WE NOT FIND A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? IF WE WANTED TO BE A HAYES COUNTY RESIDENT, IN SOME WAY, SHAP

1:45:24•Walt Smith

With that, Judge, if you have any comments.

1:48:55•Walt Smith

I said I believed he was a resident, and I've since confirmed that.

1:49:07•Walt Smith

Yeah, I mean, he is a resident of the county. He lives here. He votes here. He's lived here his entire life. He owns property outside of Hays County. So do I.

1:50:12 – 1:50:26•Morgan Hammer

Yeah, well, just questions for Jordan. Because we've talked about consent. Why would this be put under consent than the other categories from a legal perspective? Because that was a big heartburn for a lot of people.

1:51:24 – 1:52:38•Walt Smith

And I would just also mention that We anticipate that the two other entities will have appointments, or at least one of the other two entities will have an appointment in the next month that, again, We don't have a say over who their nominees are. We just have an up or down vote as to whether or not we would approve them. Those will probably come within the next one to two court sessions. And this is a process that since I've been on there in 2020, they always come in the end of July, the beginning of August. And I'm not sure just off the top of my head which one of those two will come. But I

1:52:38•Morgan Hammer

Mr. Roberts is the president, correct? Who puts them in charge to be the president?

1:52:44 – 1:53:13•Walt Smith

The rest of the board votes on the appointments. There's three officer positions. There's a president, a vice president, and a secretary treasurer. And those are voted on by the five members of the board. And so the rest of the board has expressed their... support of his leadership by his appointment as the president. The vice president of the board is Jack Creveling, who is an appointee from the city of Bee Cave, and I've been elected as the secretary treasurer.

1:53:14 – 1:53:29•Morgan Hammer

Okay, so all of them believe that his leadership has been successful in those efforts there. And when it comes to the golf course, he is part owner. What is his relation connection to that?

1:53:35•Walt Smith

No, he sold the property as raw property. Okay.

1:53:50 – 1:54:16•Walt Smith

You've got to be more specific because we've got about 30 of them. Now, what I would say is in our overall CIP, it's probably about a $220 million amount. Overall CIP that's currently in operation with projects, probably operating budget, probably about $60 million. It varies from month to month. I mean, it's a large budget.

1:54:18 – 1:54:54•Walt Smith

No, because your CIP, so again, with our CIP budget, it's done very differently. A lot of that is bonded funds. And so right now we've got probably 15 to 20 projects in process. And depending on what day of the month they're on, one of those projects could fluctuate. For example, there was an award for a pipeline this week, or pardon me, last week, two Thursdays ago. That one award was $11.5 million. So those accounts fluctuate with 30 projects going. They fluctuate up and down on a monthly basis by tens of millions of dollars.

1:54:56 – 1:55:07•Morgan Hammer

YOU SAID THAT DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY CORP DID NOT PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, AND THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS ARE HAVING BUDDING HEADS. CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE ON THAT?

1:55:07 – 1:56:24•Walt Smith

SURE. I THINK THE DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY CORP, THEY OPERATE SOLELY ON GROUNDWATER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A VOLUMETRIC CONTRACT WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE LCRA PRIOR TO THE FOUNDING OF THE PUA FOR ONE MILLION GALLONS A DAY. Given the fact that we are under such a, we have had a prolonged drought, the groundwater district, the Hays Trinity Groundwater District, has prohibited the drilling of any additional commercial wells within the Hays Trinity for right at two years now. I think the anticipation, and I can't speak for, I would never venture to speak for the Drifting Springs Water Supp

1:56:27 – 1:57:23•Walt Smith

Livable unit equivalent basis. So that means that for every one of those LUEs, that customer, that wholesale customer, gets 864 gallons of water a day at peak. Most of them don't use near that. But under state law, that is what we would have to provide. The contract that the Dripping Springs Water Supply Corp has is for a million gallon today. No LUVs associated with it. Over time, since the establishment of the West Travis County PUA, all of those contracts, all of those wholesale contracts have... Anytime there has been additional water requested, all of those, we have to look at what system

1:57:23•Morgan Hammer

Have they come to you and asked you for more water?

1:57:25 – 1:58:26•Walt Smith

Oh, absolutely. About three years ago, they came and asked for additional water at that time. There was an offer by the PUA to say, look, we will get you more additional water. However, currently the LUE calculation that they use isn't the 864 gallons. For that million gallons, they paid about 500 connection fees, which would equate to about 1,600 gallons a day, so about twice what everyone else in the system would get. So they've paid about half of the connection fees that they would get. the PUA said, look, we will negotiate with you, but you're going to have to pay for those additional LUEs

1:58:32 – 1:59:28•Walt Smith

No, it's fine. But all those other contracts are operating under a basis unlike theirs. So we said you would need to, all of those contracts are exclusive contracts. If the PUA spends millions of dollars to bring additional water to a wholesale customer, then there has to be a guarantee that you are going to use that water and that infrastructure will be paid for. And so What all of those other users have said is we will cut off any groundwater usage that we have, and the PUA will be the exclusive provider of water for that entity. The Dripping Springs Water Supply Corp has refused to do that,

1:59:29•Morgan Hammer

So, long story short, they came to you for more water and you said to cut off their groundwater supply and you would give them water at cost and they didn't want to cut off the groundwater supply?

1:59:40•Walt Smith

That was part of the equation. There's a lot more of that equation, but yes. The conversion of the contract was really the biggest problem.

1:59:46•Morgan Hammer

Why wouldn't they want to turn off the groundwater? Why would you think?

2:00:03 – 2:01:50•Walt Smith

In the last year, maybe two. One was for a... line break that we had no control over. And one was for a pressurization issue within the plant whenever they were switching out filtration units in the plant. I think both of those lasted for less than six hours once testing was done. And what happens is the water in a water system like this, the vast majority of that water, when do you think it's used? It's used between 7 o'clock at night and 7 a.m. in the morning, especially in the three highest usage months of the year, which are August, September, October. It's not the middle of the summer. It

2:02:44 – 2:03:01•Walt Smith

Thank you, Judge. I appreciate it. The other thing is, is from this seat, as it was mentioned earlier, I'm also the commissioner for Precinct 4. And my level of confidence, given the fact that That specific entity has over-pumped their wells. They're the second largest over-pumper.

2:03:15 – 2:04:06•Morgan Hammer

One little thing, just in regards to the comments, because this was stated in the comment, because everyone said, oh, There are the West tribes PUA only allows for indoor watering. They're on restrictions. There was a lot of talk about the makeup of that and the restrictions that come along with it. I just want to say from the water supply study that we are doing, this is going to relate back to our problems. The water supply study that we're doing, it showed that dripping Springs in total from the water supply companies over there are around an average of 7,500 gallons per month per household

2:04:07 – 2:04:27•Walt Smith

Well, and I would say those are also dictated because we purchase our water, or the West Travis County purchases its water from the LCRA. And so we have to implement all of the restrictions that they have. And currently, for any additional water that the LCRA is providing, they're asking for permanent stage two restrictions on the entire system.

2:05:27•Walt Smith

Could you repeat the number again, please? 30. Thank you. Yes, sir.

2:05:31 – 2:06:18•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

So I was able to negotiate, well, and our team was able to negotiate an additional five acres for Mr. Coleman for our transportation department. We feel that it's important to fence that area, one, because it is now our property. But also, we have run out of space, and so we're trying to transfer some of that equipment onto this property. And so we have millions of millions of dollars worth of equipment that we wanna try to protect. And so really, that's the reason to identify that it is now Hays County property. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO SECURE OUR EQUIPMENT AND OTHER ASSETS THAT WE HAVE OUT TH

2:07:52 – 2:08:18•Walt Smith

Yeah, I'd have to turn to, I just have one question since, since it is coming out of the contract road and bridge, Contract or do we have any additional? Contracts coming forward for that account before the end of the year that was was my only question because I think that's probably money That would be rolled in the next fiscal year for road and bridge contracting We just did all of our contracting for mill and overlay those kind of things last session of court.

2:09:04•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

I'm fine as long as we can find the funding for it or partial funding for it from other sources. I'm fine with that.

2:09:23 – 2:09:56•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

Judge, may I just, one quick comment on the item previously, the previous item. Can we also ask I don't know what department that would be. I'm looking at somebody, but I'm not sure. I'd like to get a list of all the organizations or departments or agencies or whatever it is, boards that we appoint people to, and maybe we can have a further, more in-detail discussion regarding appointments and how we want to move forward on those.

2:19:12 – 2:19:41•Morgan Hammer

Okay, perfect. I love the fact that we have to do these public hearings because it gives us a chance to connect with the neighbors and to ask questions and discuss this with y'all. Has there been any indication, because I've heard a couple commercial issues, is there any indication that this is going to have any type of, because rainwater in the state of Texas, that's not public water supply. You cannot use rainwater. That's not approved with the state of Texas, so. I don't think that that could be a possibility, but have you heard different? What does that look like?

2:20:13•Morgan Hammer

OKAY. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN ADVANCED, NOT A CONVENTIONAL.

2:20:49 – 2:21:02•Morgan Hammer

Yeah, so we talked about, I know that someone mentioned from an emergency vehicle accessibility standpoint, there are a major road that connects or that meets on each of these lots, right? Correct.

2:21:11•Morgan Hammer

So from an emergency perspective, they should be able to be taken care of there. Correct. I'm trying to think. So they've met their plat notes.

2:21:21•Walt Smith

My question was, is there a plat note that could say residential only?

2:21:26•Morgan Hammer

Can we put a plat note that says residential only, that this will never be a commercial?

2:21:48•Morgan Hammer

So before we ratify for approval for administrative review, can we talk about the plot notes then?

2:21:57•Morgan Hammer

No, I know. That's what I'm saying. Whenever we get there.

2:22:06 – 2:22:18•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

I was just making sure that there is no action today. And then I guess as we move forward with that review, Colby will have more information of what we believe, maybe even stronger belief that what the development will look like.

2:23:14 – 2:23:28•Morgan Hammer

One, I just wanted to say thank you so much for coming out here and spending a couple hours with us. Is there any other question for someone that is here regarding this issue that we can answer or that we can look into? Any questions at all? No?

2:23:41 – 2:24:06•Walt Smith

Oh, I was just going to say, I think because the public hearing's closed, maybe it would be great to... We can't ask anyone to come up to the table. Well, we can, but just let me follow the cadence. Well, I was just going to say, it might be good for all y'all to come in together and meet with your commissioner. I know she'd be more than willing to do that. I'm speaking on behalf of her, but I know she's done this. Be more than willing to sit down and speak to all the neighbors about the concerns that you have and review the plan.

2:28:25•Walt Smith

Those are some pretty, I got to tell you, those are some pretty impressive resumes. How did we appoint those people and where did they come from?

2:29:11 – 2:29:56•Walt Smith

I would just say, looking at the changes in policy, there are several in here that I think you've moved to more long-term on most everything we did from two years to three years, from one year to two years. I think that anybody who looks at this would think that this is a good policy change on most of these items. I would say that as you look at those maximum The next time we look at this, those maximum maturities to three years, if there are funds that we know are not going to be used or in place for, because I know we've got some of those that are five, ten, much longer, I would encourage th

2:32:57 – 2:33:45•Walt Smith

Commissioner Smith. I would just say I appreciate y'all updating these before the end of the budget year, as y'all have in the past. As you're looking at these overall numbers, some of them, it looks like they're doing, and I'm judging by the usage, they're doing a good job they're increasing by 10% or whatever. And I assume we'll see that in the budget. There's a number of them that have cuts of 40% or 35, 40% cuts to those individual programs. Do you see those fluctuating as the need dependent upon those individual cases? Or do you see, and this is a general question, do you see those as, ok

2:34:44 – 2:35:09•Walt Smith

While we've looked at each one of these contracts individually as they've come through, I know we've had to update as we picked up some providers, lost other providers. I know there's, for example, on item 14, there's one, two, three, four. There's eight different providers there. If in the future these come forward, knowing what each one of those providers actually provide would be helpful as well.

2:35:24 – 2:35:54•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

I would just say, and I'm really excited to judge about this position also because it provides or enhances that continuity of care for those individuals. You know, I like that we are providing now more specialized treatment and care for these individuals, you know, which is needed a lot of times. We don't get that specialty care that even, you know, in our health department and other areas that individuals need. And so, yeah, I'm supported and thanks.

2:35:54 – 2:36:10•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

Commissioner Cohen. No, just thank you for the diligent contract management of these individuals. services and I'm think I'll keep an eye on that and having to You know adjust when necessary and nothing really great on staying on top of that.

2:36:20 – 2:37:52•Walt Smith

I just do I have one other question and this is a conversation we've had in court I think twice now All of the work that y'all do in coordinating with these different vendors to provide mental health services, it'd be great if, because of our work with our behavioral analysis, or pardon me, our behavioral individual in our health department, having them looped in to know what those contracts are I'm not saying having them looped into the negotiation or anything else. I completely understand that as a court, y'all are standing alone and trying to provide those services for those individuals. Bu

2:43:20•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

JUST REALLY BRIEFLY, CYNTHIA, CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE WHAT TYPES OF SERVICES, WHAT ARE THE MAIN SERVICES THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE OUT OFFERING IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS BAN?

2:44:14 – 2:44:32•Walt Smith

So I do have one question. You mentioned the substations. I know we've talked about this in the past, fully staffing the substations every day of the week. Where are we at on that? Because we bring this up every year, and I know it's going to come up in budget, but it's just a question.

2:49:23 – 2:50:00•Walt Smith

Right on. Commissioner Smith, I think it's a good policy. Going through the written policy itself, I think you hit all the points that I would have had questions about specifically on the budget process and the packet that has to go to HR. I think it's perfect. If you remember when District Attorney Higgins got into office, his first item he brought forth was hiring additional attorneys. And I was shocked that he was asking for a salary variance at that point. And I told him at that point I was shocked he was able to get the competent staff that y'all have at the rates that y'all were paying.

2:53:30 – 2:53:47•Walt Smith

And then, what's your motion, sir? I move to place a stop sign at the intersection of Creek Road and Mount Gaynor. and to place a yield sign to change a yield sign to a stop sign at the intersection of however you Sashleben Road and Wayside Drive.

2:54:33•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

So moved. Second. Commissioner Inglesby. Bowman was selected in June, and so this is the negotiated contract.

2:58:05 – 2:59:04•Morgan Hammer

Yeah, so we actually, Michael and I, we attended a Hill Country Alliance Institute for Leadership meeting, and the city of Cuyahoga was going over their conservation development manager and how he, I think it's conservation development manager, is that correct? Division manager, yes. Yeah, and how they were saving the county thousands and thousands of dollars from instituting native seeds and not having to mow all their public spaces and just other things and we looked at each other and I was like, all right, let's get this list together because this is something that we, as a court, we've alw

2:59:07 – 2:59:48•Walt Smith

Yeah, I would just say my top priority in our development services rewrite that we're undergoing right now has been the conservation development title. And I know that you all know that. But having someone in your office to coordinate not only that but the watershed studies we've done the individual, the work that's going on both in Wimberley and Dripping Springs when we're looking at our new flood plains and those kind of things related to where those conservation developments are. I think between the two of us, we have more conservation set-aside property In our portions of the county then p

3:03:18 – 3:03:32•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

Tucker, I did want to ask one question. So the $4 million that's available, and I know that we're reaching out to different counties so that they can apply also, but it'll only go to one county, but we're giving others the opportunity? Or is it shared?

3:03:59•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

It really helps and enhances that application.

3:04:18 – 3:04:54•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

No, I think that, I mean, I fully support this initiative. I think it's important for us to understand what, what other counties are doing and what initiatives or ideas that they're implementing that we haven't thought of yet. And so if we're looking to have this really robust criminal justice reform plan of the future for Hays County, then I think this is part of that contribution to that for us to explore what other counties are doing and have more of a regional impact into this growing area. So I fully support it.

3:07:31•Morgan Hammer

I will say that that fence is extremely required and it's also extremely expensive and it has to be a certain type of fence that we put in.

3:07:51•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

So the $32,000 is that, or is that 32? Is that with our match? Yes.

3:08:04•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

15, 16, yeah. That's all I wanted to know.

3:08:46•Walt Smith

But it's actually from their community outreach budget, so I think this is where we should be doing it. Let's find out. Let's find out what it's about.

3:10:21•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

It just looks like there's a theme here. Yeah. Okay. So, okay. Yeah. Space. Yes. Great. Thanks.

3:13:07•Morgan Hammer

Question with that. Does that have to be disclosed?

3:14:02•Morgan Hammer

I was just going to ask, where does it stop and where does it start?

3:14:05 – 3:14:18•Walt Smith

Well, I was going to ask the same thing because former Director Borchling's granddaughter works for a different firm. I'm like, when do we tell his granddaughter that she doesn't have to? Five years. Please call the roll. Does that make sense?

3:21:15•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

Candace. And then 1, because we have outside legal counsel here.

3:21:37 – 3:22:22•Debbie Gonzales Ingalsbe

Yes, Judge. I'd like to make a motion authorizing the entry of an agreed final judgment in relation to Hays County, Texas versus TACC. Tuck. I'm sorry. Okay. That was good. That was good. I'm sorry. I should have put my glasses on. Tag development limited cause number 24-0166-C pending in county courted law number one and authorizing the execution of any necessary documents associated within in an amount not to exceed one $1,649,807 to be funded by the County Road and Bridge Fund and amend the budget accordingly. Second.

3:22:33 – 3:22:52•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

Thank you, Judge. Motion to authorize the submission of a counteroffer to landowners regarding PARCEL 27 LOCATED AT OR NEAR FM 2001 IN RELATION TO THE FM 2001 GAP SAFETY RIGHT-OF-WAY AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN PRECINCT 2 AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND.

3:22:59 – 3:23:32•Michelle Gutierrez Cohen

YES. AND THEN? THANK YOU, JUDGE. THIS IS REGARDS TO M4, MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR and the Director of Facilities and Resource Management to obtain an appraisal on real property located in Precinct 2 at or near 500 FM 150 East in Kyle, Texas. Authorize the Director of Facilities and Resource Management or County Administrator to execute any related proposals in order to obtain an appraisal and authorize a waiver of the county's purchasing policy of obtaining three quotes for obtaining such an appraisal.

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