City Council - Regular Meeting

Wonderful, all right, let's get in right into our transit-oriented study sessions. Thank you all for coming today. We'll start with item 4.1, transit-oriented communities policy. Is it Mr. Hennessy or Mr. Osborne? Welcome.

One moment, Ms. Fleming, do you have a question?

Yeah, I do have a question. I'm just curious if we go back to the housing pieces. I know there's actually a lot of housing options. Some require financial commitments, but a fair few we put in there don't. Can you talk about how you decided to choose that one over the other ones that don't require financial commitments and maybe say what they are for the council?

I guess what I'm wondering is like I think one of the options is coordinating with the county on one of their housing options. I don't know which is one that we put in there intentionally to relieve cities of of a really big burden. I know that rent stabilization was another option that doesn't require a financial investment from the city. So I just am curious when you say they're limited, I'm just curious how we ruled out those other options as we got here to your recommendation.

It's okay if you don't have the answer right now. I just know we put in a few of them so that there were some real options for cities. Sure.

I just think that because at MTC I mean I was intimately involved in making the menu of these like me and two other people were negotiating this we put forth a pretty big menu and I can't say that we ever envisioned not having i didn't envision that we wouldn't be discussing all of the options and having the council make some decisions obviously with staff input but i think that the council probably doesn't even know all of the options that are available under the policy and so i just um you know put a lot of effort into it and would love it if we could go through the options so that the counc

Thank you. A really nice summary of some complicated issues, and we have some fascinating policy trade-offs here. So thank you for bringing this to our attention. I'm sure we have some questions from council. Looking to my colleagues. We are formulating the questions in our head. Who wants to start? Ms. McDonald.

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the presentation today. This is not an area that I find that I'm an expert in at all, so I appreciate how much you dove into each of the sections. And it seems to me that the amount of money that we're getting in grants for this, it's worth it to do the policy work to get the correct amount of points is what I'm hearing from. Director Hennessy, as well as all of you today. So I look at it as a little bit of a tiered approach, and I'm wondering if you can walk me through this a little bit. The first one seems that there's some kind of low-hanging fruit, things th

That's kind of where I'm heading is if we're able to accomplish these, you know, certain ones fairly easy from here to July 1st, 2027. To me, that makes sense to focus on those ones that you feel like you could do in-house or with the consultants that we have already. So it's not really reaching too far into the financial commitments and all those other things. But my question is, if we're able to do that, and then we actually wanna take it a step further for the competitive grant after that, and we wanna dive in further to some policy, or looking at if we are committing to something financial

Thank you. Other questions? Ms. Fleming?

Yeah, one of the questions that I have is that, and I think this goes to Council Member McDonald's point, is that there are tiers for funding based on how many TOCs a jurisdiction has. I think at present, the City of Santa Rosa has three. To get to the next tier, we would have to have one more, which is four. I'm wondering if any of these tiers options would best get us to four TOCs in a way that's efficient with staff time and maximizes our return on our staff time investment.

we did have a conversation with mtc staff just to see if there was a way or what the process would be to qualify for additional incentive money and it's tied to those those two criteria one of the things that i was thinking when um when i was looking at this originally is like a city like petaluma which has you know a third of our population size has two two toc's because they have two train stations um and that that it's hard for me to imagine that there's not a way that we could maximize densities or potential zoning densities around a couple of other locations in the city that would help us

Well, so there's points, but there's also just the fact of having two TOCs, and one is at the north station, one is at the downtown station. I was wondering if you had evaluated other sites to try to qualify them as TOCs, because it's just kind of mind-boggling that we'd be in the same class as a city a third our size, and probably if we'd had a good census, we'd be close to 200,000.

Yeah, because I do understand the piece about, I mean, it doesn't make more sense necessarily to add more rail stations, but we do have other transit hubs in the city that are larger than a lot of transit hubs across the Bay Area. Thanks.

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the presentation. I really... I'm not an expert in this area either, but I love all these topics. I just wondered, going back to your question and the direction that you're looking for, and kind of along the lines of Councilmember McDonald, looking at your end date, the July 2027, which I know seems, it's a year from now, but it'll come very quickly, I know that. So I'm wondering when I look at your three areas, the parking, the transportation, demand management, and the ministerial housing, what you all feel you have, for lack of a better word, capacity to do i

hours that go into something like that thank you thank you vice mayor thank you um my colleagues have already played one side of the coin so i'll play devil's advocate on this just to you know try to help me get an opinion um or further formulate my opinion so parking maximums you had said um was sort of a new uh subject or topic that um for the city of santa rosa Based on feedback to your department on changes in the past with parking minimums, how do you feel parking maximums would be received by surrounding neighborhoods of some of these developments?

And then my final question, again, playing devil's advocate, is from the developer side or the investor side, I know you're not a banking institution, so you can't give financial projections, but the appetite or desirability to build projects with some of these imposed on them, would that hinder the the appetite for developers to come in and do it if they can't to your point earlier like if there's only so many parking spaces allowed for a certain amount of units in your experience is there a an argument to be made by some of these uh developers that like hey i won't be able to to sell these b

I appreciate that. Those are all my questions. I will just say that I don't look at these station area plans as twins. I think you'd look at them as maybe sisters. They're related, but they're very different. My biggest concern is for Northwest Santa Rosa, which I share part of that station area plan in my district with one of my colleagues. And it is notorious for two things, being underserved and being, we'll call it, not engaged with local government. And that is my biggest concern is if we were to put something like parking maximums forward, how that area would be impacted because that are

Thank you. Thank you to my colleagues. They've covered most of the ground, but let me clarify a few points here, just get them clear in my head. So we're talking about the chance to potentially secure an extra $2 to $4 million in grant funding. Is that roughly annual? Are the funding cycles roughly annual?

That's helpful. So we're talking about roughly, on average, a million or so dollars per year to the city?

I misread that slide, thanks for the clarification. And in terms of staff costs to elevate us in that grant competition, clearly there's a lot of time involved and potentially some other funding as well. Do we have a rough estimate into what it costs the city, what it would cost the city to pursue any or all of these options and make ourselves more competitive?

The way you just summarized it is helpful. Thank you very much. And then the slides that showed the hypothetical projects and the impacts on developers, those were helpful. Are there some very rough, I'm asking for back of the envelope, estimates of the cost for developers? I mean, I'm assuming when I'm reading pedestrian access upgrades, we're talking sidewalk work, lighting, other kinds of electrical. Those costs can add up. Do we have a rough sense of what this would cost developers doing projects in those areas?

That's what I wanted to hear. Thank you very much for that. And what you can hear me poking around at a little bit here comes from my background as a grant writer. And it's often tempting to become very focused on obtaining the grant while forgetting what the ancillary costs are, either for us as a city or for the developer. But it sounds like the benefits clearly outweigh the costs in this instance. And that's what I was trying to clarify. Let's see, just a couple more questions here. Gabe, can you go back to the ministerial housing possibility? I can't tell if staff is in favor of that or no

Thank you. All right, and my final question. And this goes back to the slide where we were talking about downtown parking. And there was a note there, if I read it correctly, a kind of a very diplomatic note that parking infrastructure can absorb current demand but has limited supply. Given the interest in city parking from downtown development, are we starting to shift from our years old feeling that we had a surplus of parking downtown more parking than we can use to now, looking at the demand from incoming developments, we're a little bit more concerned about our long-term parking supply fr

All right, thank you. I just wanted to make sure I was reading through the lines correctly. That's it for my questions. Anything else from council? Let's open it up to public comment. Let's start with Abby. Santa Rosa Yimby.

Seeing none, then we're gonna go to our online comment, and I shouldn't have done this at the beginning, but participants on Zoom, can you either raise your hand or dial star nine by phone to indicate you would like to speak on this item? And I will ask our Zoom host whether anybody is raising their hand or dialing star nine.

All right, so we have no members of the public on Zoom wishing to comment. We will close public comment and I will bring it back to Council for any final comments and direction to staff. We'd like to begin, Ms. Rogers.

Thank you, Mayor. So tell me if I'm on the right track with my notes and I'm giving you what it is that you are requesting. So for TDM, I would like to see all priority development areas. If we can do that, I would be more comfortable with that. For parking maximums, I would like to see I put a color, the orange category, but partial consistency or limited consistency. I find it very difficult for residents, especially when they're unable to find parking and how that maybe impacts other residential areas when they don't have parking at their complex. And then I'm okay with holding off for mini

Yeah, would it be possible to put the slide up with the choices? So I wanna just like step out and say like it was sort of noted as a side note, the thing about climate change. The whole TOC policy was developed in order to be compliant with state requirements. around climate change in order to reduce vehicle miles traveled and to reduce parking and car infrastructure in order to better meet the challenge of the moment around climate and so while parking maximums might seem. to be burdensome for folks the idea is then we could be investing in bike and pedestrian and transit infrastructure to r

Thank you, Mayor. I'm in alignment with Council Member Rogers on the parking maximums just because maybe I'm just part of that old school that I can't imagine still living in Santa Rosa without a vehicle traveling from the east side to downtown corridor and where I would park if I was using transportation, so yeah, I'm not gonna be able to ride a bicycle with my high heels on to get downtown to catch a bus. I don't see myself, I think I'm too old for that. But I also was part of the Santa Rosa where public transportation was not really part of the culture of the year, and I feel like we have a

Thank you, Mayor. Let's see. I would say with respect to parking, I know especially when I first got elected, I was hearing a lot about, for example, the Pullman Project and the other one on College Avenue. I can't remember the name of it right now. over by Manhattan and Safeway. Okay, so those were really, for me, really good examples of folks trying to adjust to the parking minimums and really having a hard time. However, I will say lately, and I knock on whatever this is haven't got any complaints because initially I got lots of complaints so I'm thinking you know with the and I'm just kind

Yeah, I'm in agreement with my colleagues on the TDM. I think that's a fairly straightforward one. I'm not all in on parking maximums just because of some of the concerns that were brought up before of the amount of parking that we have versus the demand in our downtown station and then also my concerns I said before of the areas in northwest Santa Rosa being more residential than they are commercial and how that could negatively affect the residents there. There's definitely gonna need to be some outreach and some more deliberate and outreach than we're typically used to in order to make thos

Thank you. I don't know that I have anything new to add to what my colleagues just said. Again, the TDM policy seems like a no-brainer, given the feedback that we got. With the parking maximums, my concern there is only that we that you, that staff, who are the experts here, have a better sense for the impact on both the housing market and the development community, has the time to think through the unintended consequences. We want all kinds of housing here. And as one example of where this theoretically could have an impact, you know, we've long talked about wanting to have market rate condom

Yeah, can you elaborate what that would look like?

Do we get more points for expanding it out? Just the good part about doing the expansion, and it wouldn't be any heavier of a lift to do it. Dan, you talked earlier about people are already putting in curbs. I mean, we've seen it even in some of these small developments around Santa Rosa. They're putting in curbs, they're putting in gutters, those types of things to make sure that there's pedestrian walking when they're doing development. Are you saying that they already do all of those things, but if we added it to an extended area, they would get more credits by whom? Who do they get the credits from?

So I'm seeing a lot of heads on your side nod yes, that this would be a good thing for us to expand just past the area, the specific plans.

But also helps with all of our gas emissions and everything else. Yeah, I would be comfortable then expanding it out. I think it meets some of the other goals that we might not be able to get to as quickly through the parking minimums and maybe because we have some transitions. So hearing you talk today, to me, that makes more sense. It's something that you're able to accomplish in-house. And so I'd be comfortable doing that if the rest of my colleagues are.

Out of the options that were provided, I still agree with all priority development areas.

Thank you, other thoughts? I'll just, I'll add my own support for that notion as well. Thank you for the clarification. Do you need any other direction or feedback from us?

Mayor, if I may, just so that they hear it from four people, I am also in support of that.

Does anybody else wanna add their voice of support? We could have a unanimous vote. I support. There we go.

Wonderful. Any other thoughts from council? All right. Thank you again.

Thank you. We'll move on then to item 4.2, Santa Rosa City Bus Short Range Transit Plan Update. Miss Ede, I'm assuming the show is yours.

Thank you very much for that presentation. And of course, for looking ahead to the future with particular reference to budget and funding. I'll bring it back to council. Questions? Can you see? Let's start with you, Ms. Fleming.

Yeah, I had a question about going back to the idea around banking funds in order to buy additional buses. I'm just curious how much money on an average year is sitting there and what is being done with those funds?

operations I'm not sure if that's what you were interested in or yeah what I'm trying to understand is it's a little bit like it's related to the scope of this but I think it's really interesting is like what's happening with those funds while we're waiting I assume they're invested and managed by our they're just they're not even getting bond revenue no they just sit appreciating with with inflation. They sit at MTC. Yikes. They sit at MTC. They don't sit with us. They sit with MTC, depreciating at MTC. Oh, that's really, I did not know that. That's fascinating. What I would have, my next que

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the presentation. Let's see, so it seems like you have two issues, or I know many more, but essentially the on-time issue, and I understand as we've come out of COVID, and I know I feel it as I drive home from Sonoma State, how impacted the traffic is, it takes me like, less than 20 minutes to get to work and it takes me an hour to get home no matter which way I go and I go every way. So I know that it's really impacted at those peak hours, those peak business hours. So I'm just wondering, so there's that issue and how that affects the financial part of the bus

All right, and I know, I realize, I mean, first of all, let me say, I just really appreciate the complexity of designing these routes, oh my gosh. Just especially that one slide 22, I'm just like, oh my God, it's overwhelming. So I take my hat off to you and your staff. It's amazing the work that you do. So I'm just wondering, there's probably more than one way on many of these routes to get to Coddingtown, to get to Kaiser, to get to the round Fountain Grove, so to speak. that if there's a way to keep, and this is just my own thing, because I didn't even know, I'm embarrassed to say, that the

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the presentation. What's interesting is when school bus systems were cut, they continued to serve the outer areas for equity to ensure that children could get to school in time and those that were sort of in the center who were able to walk to school or have closer proximity or ride their bike potentially, those were the ones that they reduced service to. So as I look at some of the routes that you're proposing, it sounds more like some of these outer routes just have low ridership. So I wanna be cautious about that because of who it serves, sort of in the outsk

Thank you so much. Thank you, Vice Mayor.

I guess just my one quick question is we're not alone in having some of these difficulties among other municipal buses. Can you comment on that a little bit?

Thank you. And just a couple from me. What is the cost of a daily route? For one of the route lines, what's an estimated cost?

Thank you for that. And I just wanted to signal my support for your idea that we shake up the status quo a little bit. When I first opened this item, when the packet came out, I was crossing my fingers that Route 8 wouldn't be on there. I love our Route 8, and I'm glad they were staying above our goal line. But I do like your approach to maximizing both convenience and accessibility. And so even though one of the lines is in my district, I wholeheartedly support the idea that we figure out how we can re-wrangle the line. And I guess I'll save the rest of my thoughts for my comments. Any other

Yeah, I was just wondering if you could put up the slide that you had one more time that shows the adjustments to the lines. I stepped out for a moment and just as you were talking about adjustments to the lines and I'm wondering if you have that slide or a slide that shows the proposed adjustments. Or if we're not there yet.

I think that's still under discussion. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss it. Correct.

I think we're good. Yeah, there's more fact finding that'll come back in the future. Any other questions from council? All right, let's open up the public comment. Let me see if I can do this correctly this time, because we're gonna do both in-person and Zoom comment. So if you are in council chambers, make your way to the speaker podium. And if you are online on Zoom, raise your hand or dial star nine by phone to indicate you'd like to speak. We're gonna start with in-chamber questions, then we'll go online. Fred, why don't we start with you?

Thanks for the support, Fred. We'll go to Gregory and then to Abby.

Thank you, Gregory, Abby, and then Dwayne.

Thank you, Abby. Dwayne. Hello, my name is Dwayne.

Thank you, Duane. Is anybody else in Council Chambers interested in speaking? Seeing none, we'll go online. Lauren, does anybody online have their hand raised? No, Mayor. No brave souls. All right. Then we will close public comment. Bring it back to council for final comments. Ms. Rogers.

Thank you, Mayor. I have the utmost confidence in your staff and what you've done thus far. So I will say that I am okay with productivity. I think that it's very important that when we do something, we try to do it well instead of doing a lot and not doing it well. But I do realize that people rely on public transportation, and right now that's not necessarily our strong point. So I would like to get it so it is our strong point. I know that you guys are creative, you're innovative, and you'll find a way to provide or to give people alternatives for other means of transportation or other ways

Yeah, thank you. I support your approach to this. I think it's really well thought out. And I would just add to that, that in this process, that if it comes to the unfortunate point of having to cut service, that we not just keep in mind transit dependent folks, but we also try to maintain and upgrade services for choice riders in such a way that preserves interest and competence in the system. And so that in the long range, the council can achieve our goals around reducing vehicle miles traveled and meeting our climate change goals. I think that bringing in folks who have a choice is really e

Thank you again for the presentation. Something I didn't mention, but I know I spoke to you about it, Rachel, was to work with the county on their bus routes. I know Route 30, as you suggested, goes into Oakmont, but if that is potentially something that we're looking to either reduce or far reduce, that we work with the county on doing maybe some additional stops in Oakmont, um so that they can make sure that they are able to use that to the maximum and reaching out to our supervisors to see if they have plans on those outer outer liars to be able to pull them onto their transportation system

Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. So I don't think I have to be going out on a limb when I say if you look at slide 22 in the behind the curtain of scheduling that you know more about this than I do. So much like my colleague, Ms. Rogers, I have full confidence. I actually went on a ride along with Ms. Rogers on the bus system not too long ago. I have full confidence in your analysis of this. However, I will take my privilege to Pitch Route 10, I just want to point out that its furthest north point is two miles away from a SMART station, and we have not a single linear foot of SMART p

Thank you, and I've already made my position clear here. I thank you for the work that you've done. I certainly support looking for ways to adjust our status quo and reach more people and do so more efficiently. I do think that as we talk about equity and as we talk about climate change, that we also just talk about the impacts on city culture that public transportation has. Santa Rosa seems to be at this cusp where we are suddenly, we're finally starting to think of ourselves as a big city. And if you look at bigger cities where people wanna live, they almost always have great public transpor

Thank you. All right, we've been at it now for two hours and 45 minutes. Let's take a 15 minute break and reconvene at 5.05. Thank you, everyone. Thank you for your patience, everyone. The time is 5.06 and we will reconvene into open session. Madam City Clerk, would you please call the roll?

Thank you very much. All right, we're running a little behind, but we are gonna catch up. And we're gonna jump around the agenda a little bit. We're gonna do our first public comment on non-agenda matters. Then we are gonna go to our public hearing on vegetation management. And then we are gonna get to our main item for the evening, which is the ballot tax measure. So for those of you who are looking to make comments on any one of those items, we are going to quickly move through them. Let's start with item 14, our public comment on non-agenda matters. This is the chance for the public to make

Is there anybody else in Council Chambers who wishes to speak? Seeing none, we'll go online. Lauren, does anybody on Zoom have their hands raised?

All right, I like the bit, Lauren. We will then close public comment and we will move on to our public hearing, item 16.1, our public hearing on the Santa Rosa Fire Department Annual Weed Abatement Program Report. Thank you, gentlemen, welcome.

Thank you very much. That was incredibly succinct. That's right. We appreciate it. Bringing it back to council for questions. Any questions from council? Mr. Krepke.

So when we get emails about somebody's neighbor's yard, do we email them to you then? Yeah, you can. Okay. Yes.

Interesting question to have on the record. Thank you very much. Any other questions from council? All right, let's go to public comment. We'll start in chambers, but if you are online, please raise your hand on Zoom or press star nine. Mr. DeWitt.

Oh, yes, I do. Thank you very much, Madam City Clerk. All right, we're going to officially open the public hearing. So we'll start with those here in council chambers. Mr. DeWitt.

Thank you for underlining that last point. That was a good headline today. Thank you also Chief Cregan and SRPD. All right, other people in council chamber who wish to speak as part of the public hearing? Seeing none, let's go online. Lauren, is there anybody online who wishes to speak?

Thank you very much. All right, we're gonna close this public hearing. I'm gonna bring it back to council for a motion. Any final discussion? I think it's Ms. McDonald. Do you have the motion on this one?

Yes, I move the adoption of the resolution as presented by staff.

Second. We have a motion and we have a second by Mr. Krupke. Any final discussion? Madam City Clerk, we can call the vote.

All right, Jared, Paul, Adam, thank you very much. All right, we're gonna go up to item 15.1 for which many of you have been waiting and which has been frankly the culmination of a three year journey here at the city. It's item 15.1, our report on the transaction and use tax ballot measure. And we will have Mr. Wagner and Ms. Wood who are leading the conversation. Welcome to you both once again.

Thank you both. Excellent summary. Looking to Council for questions. This has been a long conversation for everyone here in the city and especially at the dais. So I'll understand if there aren't any, but are there some follow-ups? Ms. McDonald?

I think it's really important, and I know you touched on it tonight, Misty, we've said it over and over and over, that this increase is not going to increase the budget to increase services, but to just ensure that the services we have now, with the response times we have now, are to remain here. And I wanna make sure that that's not only clear to the community, but to everyone who works even for the City of Santa Rosa, that to just maintain what we have now. this is critical for us to be able to do that. And I just wanna make sure that I've heard everything correctly and read everything corre

Thank you. Thanks for driving that home. I appreciate it.

Vice Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So I think it's really important to focus on what we've done leading up to this point, right? If we're going out to ask for something, we've got to show them that we've done our side of it, right? And we've made some significant cuts and also done some other things. So one of the things that we... You generally hear as a council member is you know, there's too much fat there needs to be you know you know trim from the top and You always say there's a budget issue and You know, we just passed EE EE and FF. Could you address some of those concerns that some nays

All right, well, before we go to public comment, I just want to emphasize what both Ms. Wood and Mr. Wagner did, and that is that this is the community's choice. And one of the things that the community has done, or that the city, rather, has done really well over the past two-plus years, at least, and especially over the last six months, is we have been out in the community nonstop, whether it's by mailing brochures, whether it's online, whether it is meeting after meeting, face-to-face with residents of Santa Rosa, to make sure that everybody understands the choice that is before us as a com

Thank you, Abby, and thank you, Senator Yimby. Bob.

Thank you, Bob. All right, Mark, then Sarah Roberts and Duane DeWitt.

Mark, thank you for that. Sarah, then Dwayne.

Thank you. Sarah, thank you very much. Mr. DeWitt.

Stephen, thank you, and thank you to Firefighters 1401. Is anybody else here in chamber wishing to make comment? Seeing none, I'm going to repeat the invitation online. If you are on Zoom and wish to raise your hand or press star 9 to let us know you wish to make comment online, please do so now. And I'll ask Lauren if she's seeing anybody online who wishes to speak.

No hands on line, we will close public comment and bring it back to the council for any final comment. Let's have a motion and people can think about their comments. I think we have two motions, is that correct Ms. Rogers?

I did wanna say really quickly, I understand that this may be a burden on people that are lower socioeconomic, but I would also like to say that I had the opportunity of doing a ride along with police last week, I believe it was, and many of the calls that I received were from low-income housing complexes. And so, whether you're rich or you're poor, when you call 911, when you need an emergency, when there's an emergency, when you've been violated, regardless how you've been violated, if that's someone coming in your house uninvited, whether that's by a domestic partner, whatever the case, you

All right, we have a motion and we have a second by Ms. McDonald. Any final discussion? Madam City Clerk, if you could call the vote.

Thank you. I'd also like to make a motion for a resolution of the Council of the City of Santa Rosa calling a municipal election on November 3rd, 2026 to submit a measure to the registered voters of the city on the reauthorization of a general sales tax and requesting a consolidation of such election with other elections being held on the same date as amended by staff and way further reading. Second.

We have a motion and a second again by Ms. McDonald. Any final discussion? Madam City Clerk, we can call the vote.

Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Wood, Mr. Wagner. Again, this has been a long journey and it's not over yet, but thank you for getting us to this point. Thank you to all the community members that came tonight to speak. We really appreciate your words of support and the fact that you're leaning in. We're gonna be talking more in the months to come. Please do talk to your friends, neighbors, and fellow members. And with that, we'll leave this item behind. But again, thank you. Thank you for all the work that you've done on this. All right, folks, we are gonna go back a little bit to I belie

Thank you very much. Madam City Attorney.

Thank you very much. We'll open up to public comment. If you're online, please do raise your hand or press star nine. If you're in chamber, make your way to the podiums. Dwayne?

Thank you, Mr. DeWitt. Is there anybody else in chambers who wishes to speak? Seeing none, Madam Zoom host, anybody online? Lauren, does anybody have their hand raised on Zoom?

No one on Zoom with their hand raised. Okay, we'll close public comment then, and we will move on to item 10, statements of abstention or recusal by council members. Any statements of abstention or recusal this evening? I suppose that's true. That's a good point. Yeah, that ship has sailed. Yeah, we'll assume the answer is no. Mayor and council members' reports, are there any reports this evening? All right, Ms. McDonald, kick us off.

Yes, I just wanna do a brief report. I had the opportunity to go on the 11th annual Oyster Run out to Bodega Bay. That was an event that was done by the Chicano Style Motorcycle Club. There was over 300 motorcycles that got to participate. We went out to Bodega Bay and the event ended in Doyle Park. And it was a really great family event with barbecue and lots of fun activities for kids and adults to participate in. And I just want to say thank you to them for their inclusiveness. And I appreciated the opportunity to be part of such a fun event. So thanks to the Chicano Style Motorcycle Club f

Thank you. Mr. Kripke, did you have anything?

The only thing I had I wanted to report was I was able to attend on the 22nd the North Bay Division General Membership Meeting for the California League of Cities. President Rogers presided over it and we were able to see an awesome presentation from one of our stars of today, our CFO Scott Wagner presented his strategy for how he addressed the CalPERS unfunded liability to various other municipalities of the North Bay and did a great job in doing so.

Thank you, I just have a few quick items. We did have the Sonoma County Mayors and Council Members Association legislative meeting a week ago where we went through pending legislation at the state level. Nothing that jumps off the page. The general theme was loss of local control and more unfunded mandates for cities. That is the general update. There was also a zero waste board meeting and then the big item there was an update on the hazardous waste facility that's being built in Windsor. And then I did have a chance to participate in the Santa Rosa Rural Cemetery cleanup day last Saturday. T

I'm sorry, really quick. So I did wanna give a shout out to CFO Wagner and thank him for giving the presentation. I know he just slipped out, but he said when we asked him to do it, that that part brought him joy. And so I really wanted to thank him for doing that. On the 16th, I was able to attend a tour of the geysers with water staff and Cal Pine staff gave us a tour. So that was really great. On the 17th, I had the opportunity to do a ride along with Officer Riley Howard of SRPD. I wanted to thank him for providing an informative, exciting, and at times humorous ride along. And on the 20th

You're welcome. I'm bringing my mom next week. It's part of a bring your parents to council tradition.

All right, now we can go to public comment. Any members of the public wish to comment on any of those reports? Seeing none, well, I guess I have to go online too. Madam Zoom host, has anybody raised their hands online? If you are online, raise your hand or press star nine. Any online comment?

Lauren, thank you very much. All right, we're gonna move on then to our board commission and committee appointments. Item 11.2.1, our appointment to fill a vacancy on the Design Review and Preservation Board. We've received one application of Vincenzo Signoretti to review for position of archeologist, architectural historian, or historian. I'm gonna call for public comment at this time. Would any members of the public like to comment on this item? And again, if you're on Zoom, raise your hand or press star nine. Seeing no members of the public in chambers who wish to comment, I'll go to Lauren

Thank you, Mayor. I move to appoint Vincenzo Signoretti to review for position of archaeologist architectural historian or historian position on the Design Review and Preservation Board? Second.

We have a motion and we have a second by Ms. Rogers. Any final comment? Madam City Clerk, we can call the vote.

Thank you very much. Moving on to item 12.1, our approval of minutes. Were there any edits to the minutes? Is there any public comment on the minutes, either from in-chamber or online? Seeing no public comment in chambers, Lauren, any public comment online?

All right, we'll close public comment and we will approve the minutes as submitted, which brings us to consent, item 13. We have items 13.1 through 13.6. Are there any questions around any of these items? I'm gonna question one if I could. Is Mr. Hennessey still online? I hate to bring him, if he's not here, I'm not gonna make a big deal of this. Thank you. Dan, all I'm requesting is for item 13.1, our resolution for the Sonoma Land Trust donation, could you just talk again about what the Land Trust and what private philanthropy has done for the city in general and for the Southeast Greenway p

I mean, they have been- Even just the dollar amount, just the scale of the philanthropy.

Indeed, how much time did this save the city and the community because of the philanthropy they brought to the table?

All right, and Roberta, are you the only member tonight? Do you wanna show your T-shirt? There we go. Thank you to all of our Greenway volunteers. Thanks for coming out tonight. That was my only question. Thank you, thank you to all the volunteers, and thank you, Dan. All right, are there any other questions on the consent items? Ms. Banuelos?

Well, since we are asking questions, I was wondering about 13.6 and I just wondered, oh I see, I think Megan is still here. I wonder if Megan, if you wouldn't mind just talking about it a little bit for, really for the purposes of the public and anyone else who's involved, thank you.

So this particular project was already slated to happen eventually, right? I think I remember it was like the next, the final phase, like you said. So is the application that you're submitting, that's the new part right now, is that you're finally moving forward with it?

I'm sorry, and the clientele that it's going to serve, that was the clientele that was always slated to be served, is that correct?

Great, thank you very much. Thank you. All right, we'll open up to public comment, and we have a bit of a lineup here. Abby, Dwayne, and then Gregory. And if other members of the public wish to speak, just make your way to a podium. If you're online, raise your hand online or press star nine. Abby, go ahead.

Thank you, Gregory. Anybody else in Council Chambers wishing to speak? Please go ahead.

Jocelyn, thanks to both you and Burbank. Roberta.

Thank you very much. Who says nothing ever happens during the consent calendar? This was a lively discussion. All right, we have items 13.1 through 13.6. Vice Mayor, is there a motion?

I'll move items 13.1 through 13.6 as submitted by staff.

All right, we have a motion and a second by Ms. Rogers. Madam City Clerk, you can call, oh wait, before we do that, I didn't check for online comment. Please tell me somebody online wanted to make a comment on the consent calendar as well.

Thank you. Thank you, Lauren. All right, Madam City Clerk, we can call the vote.

All right, we're almost done, but we have one more public comment on non-agenda matters. So if you did not get a chance to speak earlier on any items not listed on the agenda, this is your time, either in person or online. Make your way to the podium or raise your hand online. I'm seeing none in chamber. Lauren, how about online? Our streak remains, Mayor, no hands. Thank you, Lauren. All right, we've got a few support letters that are listed. Otherwise, we are adjourned. Thank you, everyone.