Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

No, thank you. It's long overdue for this little area there. I think that's going to be a nice improvement. Question is, I'm looking at an old, I think it was the previous submission, there was a site plan there. There's a wood fence on the west property. Is that yours or is that the homeowner's wood fence? It's showing up on here on the back of 2549 and 2537, and then it looks like it turns and heads west again, running north to south. the fence to the west if that's the one you're referring to is um that is not on our property that is not okay so in any idea what the height on that is it's s

Existing now, so there's not a lot we can change with that. But other than that, I think I like the looks and I appreciate the detail on the trash enclosure.

Thank you. I would appreciate if you did something like that. Yes. Okay.

It's perfect. I think I'm good. Thank you, Mr. Jones. I have no concerns.

Yeah, no, I'm kind of I'm in agreement and Mick. I've never heard anyone say that so bad rendering. Usually it's the opposite way. The rendering comes in perfect and we don't get what we see. So different different verbs there. But I do think I agree. I think. If you're looking for suggestions, I think the the awnings right now in this rendering that awning just blends right into it. You can't even tell it's there in that the pink on the storefront is. You know, and as far as color being signage, we did it with Dunkin Donuts. We did it with Seven Brew. We've done it with several others in the

Great, thank you, but anyone from the audience like to speak on this project No, I think I appreciate you cleaning it up a little bit there I think it's kind of what we expected to see I don't see any real major changes as far as What's changed appreciate you looking at that? Triangle out there and plotting that back to us. But other than that, I think it's what I expected to see. I

Based on the finding of the facts, I move to recommend approval of the send at Center Ridge subdivision preliminary plan with the following one modification to allow sub lot nine and 10 to be less than a hundred feet wide at the building line and to allow the shared lot line between sub lot nine and 10 to not be radial to the cul-de-sac. Two, condition that the front setback of sublat 9, 10, and 11 is 80 feet, and that the stormwater basin fence be metal ornamental picket style in green, brown, or black, and are standard conditions.

No, thank you. I think it came along what we talked about before. Appreciate you taking our thoughts into consideration.

Intriguing with it. Entrance, you don't know, probably you haven't seen anything on it. Yep. I'm going to need a no basis. I see that. I see that. They'll just call you when they need you. Yeah, interesting. So a couple of different things that took place there. Jim, go to the next slide. No, the other way, I guess. This was original, right? So parcel F loses a little corner there.

It makes sense to me that the plan is now. I'm good.

um i agree as mr jones is pulling up i think that's going to be a problem um it and then just from a flow standpoint i'm looking at this the atms on the south or yeah the atms on the south side of the building and you're entering it from the west which would then require 180 return to get to back out to crocker which is going to probably infuriate people which is going to say i'm going to try and skip to those left turn lane which is going to be the problem child is my thought on it um Yeah, I think that needs to be looked at. But other than that, I think we're good. I would agree on the green

Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it. So just so we're clear, this is special learning nonprofit associated with any association with the church next door. I think your sister's Notre Dame. You're totally different. Yes, we're totally different. Would you call it beginner garden? Is that a?

Believe me, don't judge me on my spelling. And currently, you have a wait list? OK, so looking you up, it looks like there's an Akron facility, Brecksville, and Westlake are the only three that I saw? And Lynnhurst. OK, so you're covering all of the geographical areas of Northeast Ohio. Yes. All right, thank you. So obviously a need, right? There's a need for expansion. There's a need for that. You're doing taking children that probably don't fit into public or private schools that are standard common school system. Is that a fair statement?

OK, very good. Yeah, so I think what you're doing and seeing the need for it is. huge right i mean there's not a lot of other areas that are offering this service if you will so um i see the need for it i also see the need for buffering and went out there today i don't even i was on your property and walked it um early morning so if you see me on camera i'm sorry uh but there is currently a six-foot wood board-on-board fence that is sitting there that's coming down. There's a drop-off, I'll say. You said a little bit higher than the, is that Guilford Court over there? You said a little bit hig

Thank you. Um I would also look at taupe graphically where Guilford Court sits relative to Your building is because if you know we talked about possibly putting it, you know near a 10-foot mound and 10-foot high with a six-foot fence that I climb the fence and to look down and it's there is a ravine so there is a pretty decent change in elevation between that circle and their place just to keep that in mind when you're explaining it I think that would help if I could add something to that I think we've requested and received line of sight exhibits in the past of course I think a line of sight

So can I address the keeping the site clean? Please feel free to reach out to the city for. we have a property maintenance issue that's what yeah we can assist with that so reach out to the building department don graham um or i think we also have so we have two officers that are on property maintenance patrol so um please if they point it out to them and then we'll address it but

The process is a long one. Unfortunately for. for the builders. So this is our standard process. It's not that we're not breaking ground on that tomorrow as much as Mr. Bedell wanted to do it in June for some reason. There's more steps to this. There's more opportunities for you to see this. So don't think that what we do here or whatever we decide here is, going forward it's it's this is the whole idea behind the process to allow everybody an opportunity to weigh in on it so nobody should be taken feel like they're we're just building in your backyard at the end of the day that's what that's

Yeah, no, cool looking buildings, I'll say that. Great designs. Thank you. Interesting to see. The wood shop that's a single tenant, is that what we're looking at?

That's actually going to be a working wood shop? Yeah. Okay. And then the two, possibly three flex units, those are, is that a lease or is that a sale?

And then I think we all received a letter on parking.

Okay, you know, I don't know and I think it tries YOU DO TURN IT IF IT DOES A GYM, RIGHT? YOU DO TURN IT IF IT DOES A GYM, RIGHT? LIKE A YOGA STUDIO. LIKE A YOGA STUDIO. IT COULD BE MULTIPLE PEOPLE IT COULD BE MULTIPLE PEOPLE COMING IN FOR CLASSES AT THAT COMING IN FOR CLASSES AT THAT POINT. POINT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE STRUGGLE COMES WHEN YOU GET INTO THE STRUGGLE COMES WHEN YOU GET INTO THE CUPS IN THIS AREA. CUPS IN THIS AREA. YOU COULD HAVE A LOW TRAFFIC UNIT NEXT TO A HIGH TRAFFIC UNIT WITH ANOTHER HIGH TRAFFIC UNIT AND COULD JUST SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE

Yeah, one way of fixing that. Just take the building down. Yeah, you gotta remove the building. We're gonna fix that.

jones thanks yeah i have nothing to add yeah councilman right now there's i don't even know what you come back to me with to be honest it's it's a tear down go get your permitting do the right thing slapping it up there as a shed is not going to cut it no footers on it is your is the is there's no fixing it it is it's got to come down i hate to tell you that but there's no fixing that i i how long has it been up a little over a year okay yeah so it's there's you can try and convince me that you're going to slip a footer underneath an existing structure and it's not going to work i got bad news

But even if it came to you as a shed, we have permitting for sheds in a residential neighborhood.

I'm really disappointed in this one. I don't even know where to begin with it. If you want to try and come back and convince us of doing you're gonna do something different that's gonna make it bring it up to code When you have the building department in the system fire chief writing us that lengthy of a message.

Ben Stafford with Spicer Group performed the survey and I'm at 6161 Oak Tree Boulevard, Independence.

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