City Council - Regular Meeting

Wasco County
Tuesday, October 27, 2026

The City Council approved meeting minutes, a local contract review board rules resolution, and an audit services agreement. They also heard updates from local community organizations and city staff.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
The Dalles, OR
Meeting Date
October 27, 2026

Published excerpts

Only published remarks appear here. The full transcript is not published.

85 sections (from 89 segments)

10:21 – 10:38•Timothy McGlothlin

Where is everybody? And then online and dance night, I believe. There's a potential for being a short meeting tonight. Putting the pressure on you, Tim. No.

10:42•Richard Mays

OK, we're ready to go here. October 26, 2026. This is our regular city council meeting. Welcome, everyone. And at this point, I'd like to ask the city clerk to please call the roll.

11:06 – 11:22•Richard Mays

Present. Serious Pledge of Allegiance. Please join me and stand if you can and join me in the pledge. Bear with me here.

11:26 – 11:37•Scott Randall

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

11:42•Richard Mays

Thank you. Item four is approval of the agenda. Do I have a motion to approve the agenda?

11:48•Rod Runyon

Rod, I will make a motion to approve the agenda.

11:53 – 12:16•Richard Mays

It's been moved by Councilor Runyon and seconded by Councilor Randall to approve the agenda. Is there any discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Item 5A is a presentation from the Mid-Columbia Community Action Council. And with us tonight is the Executive Director, Leslie Naramore. Welcome, Leslie.

30:48 – 31:33•Rod Runyon

Thanks for being here. Good information. As a former chair of the Columbia Community Action Council, during my time with the county, I was chair probably most of my eight years. I was also, when it was called CAP, Community Action Program, about five decades ago. I was on there at that time. My question goes back to almost your first slide with the annex, okay? And there were a lot of rules to be allowed to be in the annex and the rules where you would not be allowed to stay in the annex. Now that you're going to have 21 units basically listed as permanent, but are there rules there to protect

31:39•Rod Runyon

Okay. And are we talking, could it be couples? Is it just individuals with children?

32:15•Rod Runyon

Dog or cat. OK, but that can have issues as well.

32:28 – 32:59•Rod Runyon

Yeah, I'm just trying to get the questions out that are going to end up in the newspaper for you. Okay, so that's great. Thank you very much. That's a good deal. The Hamilton is going to be an issue. It was an issue back when I was on a board, and I'm the one that got it to have a couple of units at the east end for veterans. There were two units, and then it all became veterans, and that's been great. But the building is probably about ready to hit the bulldozer. It's been there many, many decades.

33:08•Rod Runyon

There will be a major community project to help you with that. Thank you.

33:59 – 34:15•Rod Runyon

And on another kind of topic, you contacted me about a sound system and whatnot. Was that you or somebody else from your group? Yeah. No. Okay. I thought it was, I thought it was macaque. All right. Thank you. That's all I got.

34:23•Scott Randall

Yeah. Thank you, Leslie. I just wanted to say, I think you're probably the most underappreciated resource we have in the community. So I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work.

34:34 – 34:45•Richard Mays

I have two questions. Um, You mentioned you're making the rounds to other counties and cities. How many county commission meetings and city council meetings have you been to or do you plan to attend?

35:16•Richard Mays

Okay, that's all right. The Bread and Blessings, have the number of meals that they serve gone down when they had to change locations?

35:29•Richard Mays

Yeah, but the number of meals they serve, it's...

35:45•Richard Mays

Okay, great. Anybody else? Thank you very much.

35:54 – 36:19•Richard Mays

Next on the agenda is a presentation by Janet Amata. regarding the Next Door program. And her, your sidekick, Janet's a Chicago White Sox fan, and her sidekick is not a Sox fan, she said. Why don't you introduce yourself?

43:46•Richard Mays

Questions? The aid clients. Are they? I trust they're in your jurisdiction.

44:02•Richard Mays

Good to know. Okay. Anybody else? Okay. Thank you. Oh, did you want to? Yeah.

44:55•Richard Mays

Client number three that you mentioned, you said that they have not heard from Did that happen right at the beginning, back in January?

45:13•Richard Mays

Yeah, I heard about one, but that one was more recent.

45:56 – 46:17•Richard Mays

It's great Okay, thank you all very much. Thank you Item 5c is a presentation about the sustainable city year program Community local or excuse me community local news and information project. Mr. Andrew the vehicle and

55:17•Rod Runyon

Council Runyon. Did you say you're just starting the survey or has it been going on for a little while here locally?

55:29•Rod Runyon

How are you doing for replies? Is it light, moderate what you expect or heavy?

56:13 – 56:26•Rod Runyon

On a similar sojourn to Harmerston, you said you were there, you did the surveys there and whatnot. Did you get 100 responses, 10 responses, 1,000? Do you have any idea?

56:55•Rod Runyon

Oh, well, that's good. All right. Good start.

57:18 – 58:15•Richard Mays

Thank you. Anybody else? I appreciate the acknowledgement that I happen to be there on Friday. And as well as Amy and Matthew, we also had David Mills there who's here tonight, our assistant director of public works, Josh Chandler, our director of community development, and Jake Anderson, our economic development officer. And I want to also add that When you asked me to say a few words, I did mention your group specifically. I didn't really mention your group. I mentioned the topic and found myself surrounded by seven of your students who were asking me a lot of questions about what I had said

58:17•Richard Mays

Okay. Anybody else? Last call? Okay. Thank you.

58:26 – 58:38•Richard Mays

Item six is audience participation. We have anybody signed up? No, nobody has signed up. Okay. Item seven is city manager report. Mr. Cleaves.

1:02:17 – 1:02:42•Richard Mays

Questions for Mr. Cleaves. The new web page we're going to have is that going to, we'll be able to tell how many hits we get on it, right? Good. And the survey that we just heard about from the sustainable cities, would that be available on our website for people to take the survey? Is there a link?

1:02:47•Richard Mays

Thanks. Okay. City Council reports. We'll start with Councillor McLaughlin.

1:02:58 – 1:03:15•Timothy McGlothlin

Attended LOC conference and found it very enlightening and enjoyed new information related to cities. And I'll once again say that when comparing to other cities, our city doesn't have it that bad.

1:03:30•Scott Randall

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I also attended the the two and a half day conference and that's all.

1:03:34 – 1:04:44•Rod Runyon

Council Runyon. Well, 15th and 16th of October, I attended the League of Oregon Cities and was very pleased to watch one of the panelists on data centers, and that was our mayor, who did a very good job of explaining reality versus some of the things that are out there in the outer limits of reality. Then the following week, it was conference time once again. with the Oregon Connections Telecommunication Conference in Hood River representing QLife. And there were, I think, one, two, three board members there on the afternoon and the next day that I was there. But really entertaining. And it's

1:04:46 – 1:06:18•Richard Mays

Thank you. As far as my report goes, I also, as everybody has alluded to, attended the LOC conference. And I did an interview with Al Wynn on Coffee Break, KODL radio on the 20th. And I've been asked to serve on a committee by Mr. Nate Stice, who's the regional solutions representative through the governor's office. to serve on a committee that evaluates economic development projects throughout Nate's region, which includes obviously the Dalles and a lot of coastal communities. So I had a meeting on the 13th to evaluate those projects. And that's all I have. Number nine is the consent agenda.

1:07:10•Richard Mays

Does it stand to reason that we could expect us on the... Next agenda.

1:07:29•Richard Mays

Yeah, is there any problem with holding it over yet again, to what would that be November?

1:08:12 – 1:08:31•Richard Mays

Well, before you read it, I guess I would like to know, is he asking that it be held over, or is he just stating that he objects to it, or is he just expressing some reservations and allowing the council to go ahead and vote on it?

1:09:18 – 1:09:38•Rod Runyon

It just seems almost appropriate or inappropriate to be going through that list unless we withdraw it from the consent calendar and have that discussion. And I'm all for honoring Councilor Ring's request. And then we could go through those kinds of things and have that discussion.

1:09:43•Rod Runyon

Yeah. It would be good to have him here. I'm not sure what happened because he was online.

1:09:49•Richard Mays

I'm not sure how we can discuss his concerns without him here.

1:09:53•Rod Runyon

Well, apparently there is some material that has just gone through.

1:10:00•Richard Mays

Oh, okay. I was looking at that other side. Why don't you go ahead and read it? Anybody have a problem with that?

1:10:16•Rod Runyon

I agree. I'd make a motion to, is this appropriate time or not, Mr. Mayor?

1:10:40•Rod Runyon

But it would need to come off the consent agenda to have a discussion, would it? Yes. Yes, that's right.

1:11:03 – 1:11:25•Rod Runyon

Well I think we all want to hear what you what he has to say do we want to hear it now or do we want to pull it and then hear it later under item I guess it'd be 10B or 11a under either way we'd have to take it off the consent agenda to have a discussion about the possibility of holding it over or going ahead and voting on it after we pulled it off and heard the discussion

1:11:27•Richard Mays

That's just basic rules. Well, I'm suggesting, does he read the memo from Ben now, or does he wait until we get to that item later on?

1:11:37•Rod Runyon

Consent agenda, I'll say again, is a non-discussion item. You yay or nay it. If you take it off, then you can have that discussion.

1:11:46•Richard Mays

Okay. Anybody want to make a motion to...

1:11:50•Rod Runyon

I'll make a motion to honor Councilor Ring's request to withdraw it from the consent agenda.

1:11:58•Richard Mays

and make it item 11A under discussion items. Right, Amy?

1:12:06 – 1:12:23•Richard Mays

It's been moved by Councilor Runyon and seconded by Councilor McLaughlin to take item 2B and move it off of the consent agenda and move it to what would now be 11A, item 11A under discussion items. Mayor, that's 10A.

1:12:41 – 1:12:58•Richard Mays

All right. 10B then. Okay. Okay. Is there any more discussion? All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Is there now a motion to approve items 9A and 9C on the consent agenda?

1:13:00•Scott Randall

Mr. Mayor, I'll move to approve the consent agenda as amended.

1:13:04 – 1:13:28•Richard Mays

It's been moved by Councilor Randall and seconded by Councilor McLaughlin to approve the consent agenda as amended. Is there any more discussion on that? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay, moving on to item 10A. It's an ordinance amending the Dallas Municipal Code Chapter 5 related to recreational property.

1:18:58•Richard Mays

Thank you. Questions for the city attorney? Council Runyon?

1:19:06 – 1:19:59•Rod Runyon

So once the items are solidified, approved, et cetera, as far as what would constitute a fee and what wouldn't and all that, would we do some... I would hope we would do some kind of appropriate but simple signage at Lucid Clark Park saying, you know, some things do require a fee. Please call City Hall, what have you, whatever number. I mean, we would need to... One of the things we keep hearing on the street is, you know, we didn't know. We didn't know there was a rule. Who do we contact? So we would have to come up with some sort of simplified sign that puts it on, you know, with a phone num

1:21:10•Rod Runyon

Thank you. I just wanted to get that verbally into the record. Yeah, you bet.

1:21:14 – 1:22:14•Richard Mays

Thank you. Let me see if I can kind of summarize this. Back in June of 2025, which is 16 months ago, we passed an ordinance that basically allows our city properties, and you've mentioned where those are, and the staff report mentions where they are, and it allows only, quote, recreational purposes on those properties, and it provides a couple of exceptions to what we call recreational purposes, But this ordinance clarifies the one we passed 16 months ago. I don't want to use the word housekeeping. That might trivialize it too much. But it basically clarifies that ordinance. It doesn't really

1:24:32•Richard Mays

Okay. There was no other questions. I'll entertain a motion.

1:24:38•Scott Randall

Mr. Mayor, I'll move to adopt general ordinance number two, six dash one, four, three, three by title only as presented.

1:24:54 – 1:25:15•Richard Mays

Okay. Any more discussion? Is there anyone that would like to have the ordinance written in its entirety? Oh, oh, with the city clerk, please read the ordinance by title only.

1:25:29 – 1:25:40•Richard Mays

All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Okay, now we're back to item 10B, which is the

1:27:16 – 1:27:37•Richard Mays

Well, I think those are very legitimate questions, and I would assume that you're not prepared to answer his questions tonight, especially as it relates to a dollar limit of the 20 percent or a set amount, a set dollar amount. You're not prepared to give a recommendation tonight.

1:30:59•Richard Mays

Yes, we can hear you, but we can't see you. There you are. All right.

1:37:01 – 1:37:22•Timothy McGlothlin

I'm just looking for clarity. Let me. So this proposal gives the manager flexibility to change or to allocate additional funds for change orders, correct? Yeah.

1:37:46•Timothy McGlothlin

Got it. So that clarifies, but it's in order for timely changes so that you can increase or decrease the amount of downtime.

1:38:27•Timothy McGlothlin

So the beneficiaries would be to save money and to speed up process. Would you agree with that?

1:38:50•Timothy McGlothlin

If there were a delay, that would also add to it. All right. I understand.

1:38:58•Richard Mays

Jonathan, your voice microphone is kind of cutting out a little bit, just so you know.

1:39:14 – 1:39:34•Rod Runyon

Summation there, you mentioned that the council had asked to bring it back on the consent calendar. I don't recall that. And I find that odd if you're making changes to something as big as this, that it would come back on the consent. It seemed like it would come back in open sessions. We could have had that discussion before.

1:39:53 – 1:40:30•Rod Runyon

We hadn't had a chance to see if that was correct or we liked it, et cetera, or whatever. So I just, I'm on the other side of that description. I still, at this point, think that I would benefit from Councilor Ring's input on this. And if there's really no urgency at this point, delaying to the next council meeting when hopefully he could be here, would not be a big problem. Am I correct? Or is there an urgency that we have to get something done?

1:40:48•Rod Runyon

Do you have a change order in hand right now?

1:43:02 – 1:43:27•Richard Mays

Okay. Now, to the extent that we're concerned about a change order on 1st Street and the other project, the city manager still has the authority to approve change orders within a certain limit presently, right? Right. So the only way where we should be concerned is if the change order comes through that exceeds his authority.

1:43:35•Rod Runyon

Okay. And what is that amount now? What? What is the amount now that you have authority for?

1:43:44 – 1:44:11•Richard Mays

Right. So the only risk of delaying it two weeks is if we get a change order that exceeds Matthew's $100,000? Yep. Okay. That's right. I would say without knowing the projects, like some people, the staff knows that the chances of that happening are not very likely, but I could be wrong. One other question too.

1:44:12•Rod Runyon

In the, in what, I mean, I. Yeah. He's jumping out.

1:44:22 – 1:44:45•Rod Runyon

If I may, I have one other question for the city manager. Yes, go ahead. It was the city manager that mentioned that if this was approved as it's currently rewritten, that at 15%, you still have to notify the council five days, but there's no action taken by the council. It's just sending us a letter saying this is happening, right? Right.

1:45:07 – 1:45:49•Rod Runyon

I'm still feeling that as the marriage is brought up there, if you have a hundred thousand right now available to you, I don't see the harm in waiting until we have a fuller council with the questions and especially counselor running to be here. And that's what I would suggest as we hold, hold it over until our next meeting. And I don't think it'll take long to take care of it at that point. But his input in these types of things, he's very knowledgeable from the business that he does across the country. And I appreciate his, not only his interest, but his knowledge on these sort of things. If

1:45:52 – 1:46:28•Richard Mays

Well, the staff has obviously spent a lot of time on this over the last week. I appreciate that. Yeah, which we all appreciate, yeah. And perhaps to expedite this even more, to ensure that on November 9th this passes, perhaps the staff and Councilor Ring can get together so that by the time November 9th rolls around, that we get this thing taken care of once and for all. Let the record show that the city manager gave me a thumbs up. Do we need that in the minutes?

1:46:51 – 1:47:06•Rod Runyon

Or unless the staff and Mr. and counseling get together and everything is I would allow that as an option if they all get together and, and get those questions resolved to his satisfaction, then we're good on the consent agenda then.

1:47:07 – 1:47:25•Richard Mays

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Any other business to come before the city council? I'd like to thank citizen Dale Rollins for sitting through that city council meeting, the whole thing. I'm sure- Do you have something, Dale, you want to do?

1:47:36•Richard Mays

Well, we appreciate your service to the veterans as we appreciate Council Runyon's service as well. The USS Oriskany.

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