Council - Regular Meeting

You just getting ready for it? Okay, here we go. I think we're on now, right? Five o'clock? Okay. Christo, I see one. Where are the other two? Oh, they're over here. Okay, I see them now. All right. Okay, that's like having triplets in a council meeting, right? And I see Mayor Kling back in the back, so everyone give her a wave. All right. Okay. All right, Laura, you're ready. Pastor Laura Creech. And we go back a long ways, especially with your dear husband and Lions Club. And boy, that's been a lot of years ago. But thank you for all you're doing for this community. And you get to say our pr

We'll wait just a minute. Looks like there it is.

Thank you very much, Laura. I appreciate that. Okay, we're going to do roll call, Madam Clerk.

Okay, this is a special time. We get to do two proclamations tonight. The first one, and... Ron would never have teared up, so hopefully I won't. But anyway, a man that I served on council, most of you are aware, had a little two-year reprieve for eight years. But Ron, and there's a couple, three others out here also. But Ron, if I wanted a little bit of research done and felt like I really didn't have the time, that's when I was still working a full-time job. Ron was all over it, and not only for the city, but for the county, for the state. So we get to read a proclamation tonight, and then w

Does anybody have any idea, the residents that are living in that floodplain, how much they're saving on their insurance? Daniel, do you have any idea at all? I should have asked this prior to his spur-of-the-moment question.

Okay. Anyway, significant. So thank you, Tom, for the time. Before Marty comes up, I just want to mention that Councilman – Rodriguez was a dear friend of Ron and the family. And Councilman Rodriguez, I had to kick out of this. I did not know. But anyway, if you didn't know, Councilman and I ran for office here about 10 years ago. Anyway, Ron told Councilman that he wasn't going to vote for him. That's right, he did.

He went to see Ron, wanted to find out why. And ever since that time, I guarantee you, Ron would have voted for me. If it was a do-over, I wouldn't have went to office. So anyway, a great friend of the two of you. Marty, you want to come on up? This is Ron's daughter. Yes, Marty. Marty, thank you.

So thank you. Go ahead and stay up. And Don, if you want to come up, we're going to get a picture taken. Victor, why don't you go down there and be with him? You're the closest. Who else is? You tell me, Amy. Hubert, Glenn, Larry, you guys want to come up? You're okay? Come on up. Tom, why don't you get in this since you were... Yeah, it was amazing what he did. This is the proclamation for you.

17:20•VRVictor Rodriguez

Matt's here. The front line of the pack was right here.

Yeah, Mary Kling and I know about this crew, so. Okay, go. Okay.

All right. Thank you. Blessings on you. Okay. You're welcome. You're welcome. Donna. Good neighbor. Okay. All right. I'll let Councilman get back up here and then we'll read the second proclamation. Who do we have representing this next? Oh, I see you back there. I had not seen you until I saw you earlier this morning. Okay. Jenny Strohmeyer, amazing lady, is back there. So we'll be presenting this to her. Victor, thank you.

Okay. Whereas domestic violence impacts women, men, and children of every age, background, and belief, and whereas nearly one in three women and one in four men in the United States have experienced rape, physical violence, and are stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime. Victims are deprived of their autonomy, liberty, insecurity, and face tremendous threats to their health and safety. And whereas since November 2005, the Napa Family Justice Center has received 119,173 client visits, providing hope and services to adults and children suffering from abuse, and each year there are mor

Jenny, explain. One thing I've always been amazed at is, and it's not the right terminology. because it's not one-stop shopping, but you have all the services right together. If you would explain to the folks who actually is in the center to make sure that their needs are being taken care of and not having to go one step, two steps, three steps.

And you serve beyond the Nampa community also.

You serve. Yes. Thank you. Come on up. Thank you. Move in, girl.

23:26•NJNatalie Jangula

Why, do you want me to hide your belly or something?

Thanks, man. That's a problem. It is. Okay. Moving along. Boy, those are special two proclamations. So thank you. All right. We're going to go on to our public forum, which we do on every council meeting. This is where we have up to five individuals are allowed to speak for up to three minutes each. And these are non-agenda items. And when you come up, if you will please state your name and your address, and then you can go ahead and then for up to three minutes, present what you would like to as far as to the council. Madam Clerk.

And I've never forgotten anything since I've taken over, so.

We may give you a little allowance. Go ahead.

And I can't speak for full council, but for sure this mayor is going to stand by it. Thank you, Mayor, for your words and for your passion. Okay, thanks. Okay, next, Madam Clerk.

He's just checking the time on there for a second.

Yes, the time is running though. Perfect, okay. I'll switch over.

Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Next, Madam Clerk.

Okay? Thank you very much. Thank you, Melissa Sue.

It got some traction right away within the city. We appreciated meetings with city staff.

Mr. Pearson's made the commitment to be here and the time and so on. At least I want some communication with him. Of course, he'd be out in the foyer. But who would be the best person? Mark? So if you wouldn't mind, Mark, we'll meet with you as far as what maybe the next process will be, okay? Not making any commitments or promises? We have. We're aware you wrote, the city wrote to Rock Placing Company. You've got 30 days to comply. Okay. But Lee's still knowing if there's any other, as far as steps that can be taken. So if you're okay in meeting with Mark, he'll meet with you. We have. Or you

38:54 – 39:17•SGSebastian Griffin

Yes. Could I also request, Mark, that email be sent. At least to me, it could be sent to the full council just following up with the status of this and potential options moving forward if a development agreement is being not followed, how the city can respond or how he personally as an individual can respond. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Pearson.

Thanks. Thanks for taking the time. Yes.

42:44•NJNatalie Jangula

Sorry. What time does your business open currently? Thank you.

Is that it? Thank you, Madam Clerk. Thank you all who took the time to be here and present. Okay. We're now ready for the council to decide on adoption of the agenda. So moved. All in favor?

Second. All in favor? Aye. No proposed amendments since I heard ayes from everyone, right? Okay. Here we go. Communications, we have some enthusiastic young people here. So do we want to go ahead and do an action item first, Clay, or what would you like to do? Well, why don't we do that, and then let me ask Dad, is that what you want here as far as for your dear wife? Okay, let's do that first. I'm going to allow a change in agenda, and so we're going to go ahead and do an action item, and let me read it here when I get to it. This is appointment of Senior Director of Public Works, effective M

Yes, we do. So, Clay, you want to come up here and... I am getting all kinds of koodles for this appointment, and anyone that actually was born two years ago would have figured this out. So anyway, go ahead.

It's still on it. Okay, we're not going to allow the third. Okay. Okay, no discussion, I assume. So let's go ahead and do roll call first.

Okay, and Crystal, just name these three kids, and I think they're in favor also. Except they want you home more, maybe, but... Just take time to tell them a little bit about your family and these three wonderful children. In my little over three months of being here, I knew, of course, Crystal somewhat when I served on council. But I think there's actually really three Crystals, and they just don't show up at the same time. It's amazing what she gets done, not only here, but at home and in the community. So go ahead and give their names. Thank you.

Okay, we put them through enough. But anyway, congratulations. And the city and our citizens are blessed. Tom is, I tell you, we couldn't have... A better director. I know he's going to go out and do some wonderful things there in the community with consulting and so on. But I tell you, I'm so blessed to have somebody internal right here ready to step in. And they'll be working together closely here the next few months.

47:04•DRDale Reynolds

Mr. Mayor? Yes. Crystal, could you bring the kids up here? Because I think the best thing we can do is spoil them with sugar and send them home. Right.

I just want all you to know that Councilman Reynolds thinks there's a whole bunch more back there, so he's not going unfed tonight.

Thank you, Councilman. Yeah, get one for Dad, too. Okay. Here we go. We're ready for... Now we're back... Now we're back to further communications. Jay, I'm surprised you didn't take over there as far as you said. Okay.

Robin, by the way, we have a lot of rock stars, but this has been a real super rock star. Will you have your family stand and just introduce them? I know maybe this happened when you first started, but I don't know. I wasn't around.

Anyway, just God bless you, young lady. And family, I know you're all a part of this too, and I know she's going to do wonderful things. And Nampa's just been blessed to have her as long as we have. So, thanks.

Oh, pitcher. Yes. You have family. Come on up too. Yeah, we got to wear out Amy's camera tonight as much as we can. Everyone here? Matt, this is all front page stuff, right? Not your call? Okay. Oh, that's sweet. Okay. Thanks a lot. Clay, you're not done yet, buddy.

Do you want Amy taking a photo here at you? Okay, come on up, everyone. By the way, I know he's going to introduce his family. I've known Steve for several, several years. He's not a bit competitive. So what he just stated, I believe is going to happen. By the way, he's got four boys here, right? All of them are here. I can't see one. Oh, there he is. Steve's actually the point guard on the basketball team, and these others are going to grow up.

And you're proud, I know, of your dad, but also your mom. Pretty great parents, aren't they? Okay, we're going to get a photo taken. Do you have more packages for these kids, too? Oh, yeah.

Hey, guys, meet this councilman by this door. Go around the corner and meet him real quick. He's going to be Santa tonight. So sweet.

Oh, man, no. Oh, gracious. We are blessed. Thank you. Pleasure to meet you. Already. Okay, more communications. Did you make these, by the way?

555 at this point. They're going to pull it, but just discuss it. Okay, but we're going to do that in order. All right. We lost two. We'll wait just a minute here. We'll put out an all points bulletin if they're not back here in a minute. Crystal, thank you for coming up.

Okay. Okay, this is communications, and this is, of course, as Crystal Craig has already been introduced, and Public Works Staff Communications Interagency Equipment Road, what is that, Road EO? Rodeo. Okay. Rodeo. Well, guys, but it's spelled R-O-A-D and then a capital E and then an O. So I'm thinking of Snake River. That's not how it's spelled. Okay. Airport superintendent introduction and raise grant update. And please, Crystal, go ahead and start.

I want to hear about the mutton busting also, but go ahead.

Thanks. You made Nampa proud. Thank you. Thank you. All right.

1:03:31 – 1:03:45•SGSebastian Griffin

Fair. Yes. Help me. Just for a comment, I've known Jenna before this process. She helps make private plane owners make money off their planes. Or she did previously. So I hope you bring in the private sector to the public sector. Yes.

She told me that this morning. That's right, 90-pound lab. All right, well, next time maybe at least your fiance. Maybe hold off on the lab. Thank you, guys. Okay, and then Lindsay, I just want to say thank you, but thank you for not leaving the city. Yeah. Okay? All right. You are a special talent, so appreciate you. Okay.

So help myself and others maybe with HDR. What's that? I'll have you come up to the mic. Got it.

1:16:00•VRVictor Rodriguez

Yes, sir. Yes. When you talk about 55% of what?

Any other questions? Thank you very much for coming here and presenting.

A little bit on your plate there, Crystal.

Thank you. And before, I know we're over time here as far as public hearing, but I think we're going to have Rodney, you come up and finish our communications before we get to our one public hearing. Is this a fairly short one, Rodney? Okay. If you find your stuff. Okay.

Okay. We will move on. I listened to my directors. Let me tell you there. Good. You found it. Okay. Come on up. Let's get it done.

Thanks, Rodney, for the update. Council, I would suggest you get a nap in on November 2nd. It sounds like it's going to be a long one. Okay. Now we're ready for a public hearing. And we just have one tonight, but it should be an interesting one. And so I'm going to go ahead and read, and then we will go ahead and have our applicant come up. Who is the applicant for our public hearing? Okay. So I'll read it first, and, sir, I'll have you come up. Okay, thanks. 6-1, annexation and zoning to an IL, like industrial zoning district, with potential development agreement on two parcels addressed as 2

And we'll be having you come back up. I'm sure there will be some questions that will need to be answered and responded to. Terry, you're up. Lady with the biggest smile in the city. Okay, here we go.

1:46:54 – 1:47:15•SGSebastian Griffin

Mayor? Yes, Councilman. Good job, Terry. Good work, Terry. Just a quick question in regard to the traffic study. What would trigger that in regard for engineering to end up requiring it just considering it being so close to the roundabout and potential truck usage? He's got it? Okay. Okay.

Mayor Boehner. Go ahead. Council President wanted to speak, and then you'll be on, Councilman. Are you done?

1:47:48 – 1:48:17•DBDavid Bills

So, Terry, there's a new building that's been under construction on Victory. It's the Victory tie-in from the roundabout. Just as it hits the old portion of Victory, it's to the southeast of the red area. I'm assuming that project was built under the county. And not under city or is it?

1:48:31 – 1:48:44•DBDavid Bills

Okay. So we've already approved as a city, we have approved building two IL buildings in this same area. Is that correct?

1:48:48 – 1:49:23•DBDavid Bills

Yeah, I understand they're on one property. I'm saying two buildings. This proposal is one property, two buildings. So we've already, I'm just confirming because our maps don't necessarily show city limits. Not that I could have found that map and answered the question, but I needed that clarification. So I appreciate that. The second part is, is that We have across the street, we have IL, correct?

1:49:32 – 1:49:43•DBDavid Bills

Directly across, yes, but slightly to the northwest. So an automobile... repair shop or something went in there here.

1:49:49 – 1:50:27•DBDavid Bills

And this council annexed property to the north that crossed onto the east side of Happy Valley and I believe two buildings have been built in that location within the past year. Less than a year, I believe. I'm just trying to look at what has happened and what has been approved. And it seems like this project is somewhat consistent with what has happened. And so I'm just looking for staff's confirmation of that, if my conclusion is correct.

1:51:18 – 1:51:54•DBDavid Bills

Appreciate that. I don't have a conflict of interest with this applicant, but For the record, I've been a customer. I've purchased hollow metal frames and doors and hardware and other specialty from this company. I've only had great service and good work, but I don't have a financial interest in what they're doing. I don't have conflict in terms of I don't necessarily know their ownership. I just thought I'd better put it on the record that I've done business with them.

Thanks for disclosing, Council President. And then, Councilman Rodriguez, you still have a comment or question?

1:52:23 – 1:52:44•VRVictor Rodriguez

Yes, sir, I do. The building surrounding the airport and runway is not in direct line. So that's why those other buildings, businesses were annexed and approved, correct? This property is in line of the airport.

1:53:18•VRVictor Rodriguez

Yes, and that was my question, is part of that corner is... interfering with or could interfere with the runway, correct?

1:53:47 – 1:54:12•VRVictor Rodriguez

Okay, now one follow-up. Based on the type of business, the light industrial business, What is the safety factor for the residents in that area should there be an accident or a crash or something flammable such as airplanes?

Councilman, what does that have to do with what I'm not understanding?

1:54:16•VRVictor Rodriguez

I'm just talking about the safety of the neighborhoods.

But did that have anything to do with this project?

1:54:21•VRVictor Rodriguez

I don't know, does it? That's what I'm asking.

I mean, safety is always FAA as far as question. I just want us to stay on point. So do you feel like that's on point?

1:54:30•VRVictor Rodriguez

Yeah, I think it's on point. Okay, go ahead and respond, please.

1:54:47•VRVictor Rodriguez

That's right. No, I just want to make sure.

No, a general question. I want us to stay on point on what the subject matter is. Okay. Any other questions, Mayor? Yes.

1:54:57 – 1:55:20•SGSebastian Griffin

In regard to the sidewalk, the landscaping in that little tiny portion of the corner that is a part of the runway path, has Lindsay, I'm sure Jenna hasn't, but has Lindsay been able to review that? And is there any concerns with having any sort of construction there during that time? Because the sidewalk has to be constructed and I'm sure berm and some trees have to have some equipment going through there as well.

1:55:39•SGSebastian Griffin

Just out of curiosity, I'm just curious why that wasn't part of the notes. Why haven't they reviewed it prior to coming before Council?

1:56:02•SGSebastian Griffin

But this is the last chance for Council to be able to see it correct after it's approved here. Our hands are off of it, so maybe those considerations were important.

First, Councilman, did you have a comment? Then we'll come to you.

1:56:24 – 1:56:42•DRDale Reynolds

Might be a question for Daniel. There was a mention from the architect that there's a drain field on the property. Is the existing septic and drain field for the current house, or is that to be abandoned city water and sewer brought in there?

1:56:56•DRDale Reynolds

And then in a development agreement, could we put a condition on there that they tie to city sewer when available?

1:57:31 – 1:57:46•DRDale Reynolds

And one last comment, Mayor. I also have purchased items from this wholesale house. I've only given them money. They've never given me any money. They just have given me doors, but no money.

All right. Mayor? Well, these are giving out a lot of goodies and candy tonight, so it's nice of you. Just a second. We have a councilwoman who wanted to make a comment, so she will go first.

1:58:00 – 1:58:18•NJNatalie Jangula

Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to say on page 261 on the heels of Councilman Griffin's question, I don't know if that might help you answer it. It just says that under the correspondence that Nampa Airport did provide a comment indicating that the proposed light industrial use would be compatible and they go on with further. I don't know if that answers your question.

1:58:20 – 1:58:31•SGSebastian Griffin

it did not just because they do have a sliver. I don't know if they're just going to not construct a sidewalk in that portion. I assume they would. So I just was trying to figure how they would tie into all of that. But,

1:59:01•SGSebastian Griffin

And I assume the same goes for the landscaping. They're going to plant trees and have to top them or whatever ends up happening as they grow.

1:59:18 – 1:59:39•SGSebastian Griffin

Thank you. Mayor, just last question. Are you sure? Yes. Okay. Thanks. At least for Daniel. Following on the coattails of Councilman Reynolds, is the reason that sewer is not readily available because there's not a line of access to it or is there not a lift station in the area? What's delaying the ability to tie into it?

Thank you. Council, anything else before we move on to public testimony? Okay. Are we still having some technical difficulties? Do we have any names?

Okay, let me ask a couple questions and make a couple comments, please. Raise your hand if you want to go ahead and make a public testimony tonight. Okay, so I'm seeing more than 10. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. That's not the Guinness Book of Records yet, but that's quite a few. So what I do ask, I think most of you are aware if you've been here before, you will have three minutes. You need to state your name and your address. This council, I am very confident, have read through their packet. I saw a list of several names that I've already written to this council. And I

All right. Are you ready for this? Okay, ready or not? Yeah. Okay.

Still need name, and I take it you're in the same address. Yes.

So anyway. Thanks. Thanks for supporting your husband. That's always good. Now, there's no other ladies on this side? Okay, you're good. I was going to say that those who had gray hair like me were next.

Thank you. We'll start with the next row on the left then who will go from the left to right. Okay.

Thank you, sir. Appreciate your brevity. Okay, next question. You color coordinated tonight. Okay, that's good.

Okay. Appreciate it. 21 years of loyalty. That's to be respected. Anyone else on that roll? Okay, next roll. Sorry about our technical challenges. Normally we'd call you out by name.

All right. Next. Anyone else on that row? Anyone else on the back row on the left side? Yes, sir.

Thank you, sir. Anyone else on the left side? Butch, you don't want to speak? Okay. Okay, we're going to start. We're going to move to the right back then. So anyone on the right back row? Mark, you're not going to speak, are you? Okay. Okay, good. Okay, anyone else on? And the second from the back row. Yes, sir.

Thank you for being here tonight. Okay, I think we're done with that row. Next row, anyone would like to speak? Yeah, you just take a deep breath.

When you're ready, just state your name and then address.

Not good. Do you have a friend here? I'll get through it. Okay. I was going to have her come and just hold, maybe just put her arm around you.

That's what Nampa is about, right? Hold each other up. Okay. Here we go.

Thank you. Go ahead. There's a councilman. Just a minute. The councilman has a question, I believe.

2:21:05 – 2:21:29•SGSebastian Griffin

And I haven't seen because obviously the site could change in the meantime. Is there anything along that fence line for you that would make you more comfortable with this moving forward if it were to move forward? whether it be a screening with arborvitae trees or something along those lines, I just think what would ease your heart a little bit if this were to go in behind you rather than sink.

Okay. Thank you. Did you want to speak while you were up here? Okay. Just name and address, please. Thank you for supporting your friend.

2:25:03•DRDale Reynolds

Most of it is on the other side of the street with the airport, which makes sense.

Thank you. Thanks. No, no clapping, please. I will slap your hands, but we're not going to clap or cheer. Okay. I like enthusiasm, though. Okay, next row. Oh, you want to come up? Okay.

2:28:24•SGSebastian Griffin

For being here. Mayor, question for him.

2:28:30 – 2:28:59•SGSebastian Griffin

You said you share a fence line or your backyard is contiguous with this property, correct? Yes. If this were to be approved... Would anything help mitigate some of the sound or issues that might go there? Maybe requiring them to have... It already is calling out a landscape buffer, but anything specifically to screen that or help with that that would... ease your heart or your neighbor's heart?

Thank you. Thanks for your time. Okay, I think we are ready to move up to the next role.

Thank you, sir. Anyone else on this roll? Yes, sir.

Thank you. Okay, we've got an hour and 15 minutes on this one issue, and that's very good content, sir, but I'm hearing a lot of repetition. And so I remind, if we have repetitions, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SAY YOUR AGREEMENT TO OPPOSE OR IN FAVOR OF. SO THIS COUNCIL CAN MOVE ON TO A FURTHER AGENDA AFTER WE MAKE A DECISION ON THIS. SO WHO'S NEXT IN THIS ROLE, PLEASE?

Virginia, we have a quick question here from council.

2:39:51 – 2:40:12•SGSebastian Griffin

That's okay. If this project were to be approved, and I know the first preference would be not to approve it, but if it were to move forward, would any kind of screening or arborvitaes or requirement of some kind of barrier between you and the property help mitigate those issues?

Okay, I think the question's been answered the best we can. And before we start the time, anyone that comes up, please answer Councilman Griffin's question. Sir, come on up, name an address and go ahead and speak. If you have an answer for him, if not, we'll just start the timer.

So, yes, we both feel about the same way. We need your name and address.

Yeah, and you have the same question? My understanding is the sewer, the water is going to be hooked up. It's a sewer. It's a sewer.

We will have an engineer speak to that. We also have our water person here. Go ahead, Councilman.

2:44:05•SGSebastian Griffin

How often do you hear a plane take off or land? How often?

Thank you. And just I've been told it'll be maybe 10 years after I'm gone, but my understanding is the projection is the Napa Airport will double in the amount of planes coming in and out. So There will be a little more activity. Okay.

Thank you. Okay, we're for the first row here. So Cheryl or Patty, are we? Patty, are you going to come up? Okay. Okay. These people are passionate about Napa. They're here at most council meetings, so I appreciate that. There's several others out there also. Yes, you do. And if you change it, we'll catch it. Go ahead.

Thank you. You're welcome. Three seconds left. Okay. Anyone else is interested? Cheryl, you are going to come up. Okay. All right. Okay. We're not going to repeat anything, though, right, Cheryl?

Thanks, Cheryl. Here in just a bit, we'll have you come up. I have three. I'm going to just change agenda. Maybe you have some questions, too. I may need three individuals, some staff to come up. Daniel, you're my number one. And so I want you to speak to the contamination or whatever. And then, John, you may need to speak to the water also. And then we'll have Crystal come up. Or Lindsay could, too. Yes. Okay. Okay.

Okay, so you don't see contamination as far as...

Okay. John, do you have anything to add at all to what Daniel said? Okay. So, Crystal or Leslie, as far as speaking to... What I was mainly interested in, and Council may have questions, is what Patty mentioned as far as the six weeks. Is there still a plan that's not here yet to be conducted as far as the timing of this decision compared to the future airport plan?

As I've told the 800 employees, if I can't remember your name, if you're a female, it's Sue. If it's a male, it's Sam. But go ahead.

Okay. Thank you. Council, do you have any questions before? Yes.

I am curious about the Happy Valley Road expansion. We've been hearing five lanes, turn lanes. What is the timeline on that?

2:57:07 – 2:57:28•SGSebastian Griffin

Councilman? Mayor, I have three for her, if that's okay. Okay. As long as it doesn't get to four, let's go. Okay. Promise. Change in ownership. If there's a change in traffic count, let's say they're good stewards for 15 years and then sell this building. Are we able to limit the amount of truck counts that are able to exit and enter that property? And how do we monitor that that's not being exceeded?

2:58:14 – 2:58:35•SGSebastian Griffin

I'm going to eliminate one of my other questions, ask a new follow up. You're my favorite councilman. Go ahead. Have we ever seen a property that is light industrial? Yeah, seeing a property that's light industrial with the same kind of footprint exceed more than 100 trucks in an hour.

2:59:06 – 2:59:27•SGSebastian Griffin

Thank you. And then my third and final, a 32-foot, in terms of the airport plan... near that, uh, runway area, a 32 foot building is not of concern, even with considering expansion for future, um, incoming and outgoing planes or extensions of road, uh, runway or anything along those lines.

2:59:46 – 3:00:12•SGSebastian Griffin

And my thought only with that is, once again, thinking long term beyond tonight, if the Nampa airport. saw a huge uptick or an increase, and we bind ourselves because at the tail end of our runway, we have a 32-foot tall building that wasn't an issue for Nampa today, but Nampa 20 years from now. I just don't want to limit our abilities there because of certain height restrictions. So just trying to keep that in mind.

3:00:50 – 3:01:12•NJNatalie Jangula

For Crystal, because I had similar plans or similar ideas as Patty did. Why are we doing this now? And we know that's going to be coming for us. But now knowing that that aligns with what the future plan is to be light industrial over residential. Can you explain to me why? I know you will hear about it, but just because of this project, why that that's preferred over residential?

And I'm glad you're doing that, Crystal, because I was going to have her come up anyway and just put her on the spot before she takes over all our finance. Okay. All right.

3:01:40•NJNatalie Jangula

Yeah, no problem. So why is residential not preferred over the light industrial?

3:02:18•DBDavid Bills

What's the likelihood of additional jet traffic into the Napa airport?

3:03:01 – 3:03:21•DBDavid Bills

Okay, so follow-up. We're bounded by Kings Road and Garrity and Airport Road on the west. Here we have Happy Valley and Victory. What's the likelihood that the runway is going to expand?

3:03:56 – 3:04:23•DBDavid Bills

So, therefore, the likelihood of the runway being expanded is minimal. The likelihood of Larger jet traffic than what already occasionally comes in is not likely. Therefore, the light industrial is a compatible and a quieter use from an airport point of view.

So, thank you. Thank you. You're now my favorite employee, too. Thank you.

3:04:34•NJNatalie Jangula

Lots of favorites going around. How do I get on this list?

3:04:37•SGSebastian Griffin

When do we get our trophies? I would like to also take a picture with Lindsay.

No, you didn't tell me the truth. I said three. You said three, and you said you were going to cut out one, and you still went for three. For a different one, I replaced. By the way, before we bring you up, I do have also a couple questions for the owner, Mr. Hobson, and also maybe you, Mr. Marshall. But I want to just comment. This little baby back here.

Okay, you're living right. Okay, anyway, I've not even hardly heard anything until this last about a minute ago from this little one. Okay, Mr. Marshall, come on up, please. This is time for closing remarks. We have five minutes. My one question, and I'm sure the council and I'm sure you've written down lots of responses, I would like to hear about your semi-trucks and the route that they're taking, because I did hear that brought up and a concern about that. So sometime in your... re re rebuttal or refresher. Okay.

But your second building you are going to lease out, and there will be a lot of possibilities what may go in there, so you're not as far as certain how much traffic those would actually bring, right?

We have about a minute 20 left here. Any other comments or questions?

YES. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION THAT I PICKED UP FROM, I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO was talking about it on Happy Valley Lane. Would you consider a turn lane into the business for the trucks, like a right-handed turn lane or something that would keep the traffic FLOW A LITTLE BETTER. I DO FREQUENT THIS AREA, AND IT IS HORRENDOUS TO TRY AND GET DOWN HAPPY VALLEY. AND SO A TRUCK, AND FOR SOME REASON, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON ROBINSON ROAD, THERE'S EXTRA TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA. THEY'RE ALWAYS IN THIS AREA. SO IS THAT A CONSIDERATION?

3:11:44 – 3:12:24•SGSebastian Griffin

Councilman? Is the applicant at all opposed to the potential of requiring, I know you have a landscape buffer, I didn't hear what was planned for in that landscape buffer? but potentially doing screening with arbovitas or the like kind trees to avoid... I'm just trying to put the perspective and get to the point of These residents moved into low residential. It was planned for low residential. I can't fault them for not wanting industrial. If industrial is to go in there, how do we make it as if industrial is not there? And so I know if I sat on my back patio, I would not like to see semis dri

3:12:56•SGSebastian Griffin

Chat's on it. ChatGPT is going to find out real quick.

3:13:24•SGSebastian Griffin

And I don't mean that to be any way aggressive. I just, I don't know how tall it is. So maybe eight foot was sufficient. I didn't think so, but thank you.

Any other questions, council? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I think we're ready to move on. We're almost ahead of the two hour mark. How about that? Yes.

Hey, all in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you. Council discussion. And then we'll need a motion.

3:13:55 – 3:15:11•SGSebastian Griffin

Mayor? Yes. Just my initial, I pretty much just stated it in the last little portion of what I stated. I'm having a very tough time with this one, and I was hoping that the neighbors would help me find a point of almost mediation where we could have some resolve. I really feel for them because oftentimes we're able to get after some folks that say, I don't want something in my backyard. like houses or neighbors or anything along those lines. If you live in a residential area and your future land use map calls for residential, you should plan on maybe having neighbors one day. These folks were

Mayor Brunner. Let's go to the council. No, ladies first. She's in pretty pink today.

3:15:23 – 3:16:01•NJNatalie Jangula

This one I'm kind of struggling with. I agree with the majority of the citizens when it comes to the compatibility of it being right there. hearing that the recommendation from the airport is light industrial and that that reason is primarily because of sound. When I'm looking at this land, if somebody were to build homes, residential that was compatible to what it is, we're looking at realistically maybe five homes here. So they would be building, knowing that they're building next to an airport where sound is. So that doesn't concern me all that much. And I don't hate this project. I think t

3:16:02 – 3:17:16•VRVictor Rodriguez

Okay, Councilman. Thank you, sir. You know, all night tonight I've been hearing light industrials, compatibility, and that's the direction of the airport. It's the direction of our zoning areas. And you know what? It could be compatible with but does it make sense? That's the bottom line. It's designated for low density, but instead of low density, it's compatible because you're going to put a building there. So The compatibility is a huge issue with me. It's not compatible to the residences that I see it. So I don't have a problem with this one because I don't think it's compatible and I don'

Councilman Reynolds, can I indicate you want to make a comment?

3:17:22 – 3:17:57•DRDale Reynolds

Yes. So some comments. I'm looking at the map we have on page 321. It shows random businesses scattered out to the east of the airport. Final round performance and drive train, Timmy's Tree Service. There's just a bunch of them scattered out there between Pitt and Joe Lane and Howard Lane and Airport Road. And I don't know what the zoning is. It's all in the county, but kind of mesh into that neighborhood.

Get a little closer to your microphone. I think you're...

3:18:05 – 3:18:35•DRDale Reynolds

The comment about diesels, diesels burn cleaner today than a gas car. I have one and I have to put that stupid def in it and it burns super clean. You probably couldn't back it in your garage and suffocate yourself even, so it's not even that good for that. So semis, and what brought that up is a friend of mine owns a trucking business and they have

3:18:45 – 3:20:00•DRDale Reynolds

They burn super clean on there. So I'm not concerned about that. The traffic on that and Happy Valley Road for which coming and going out of there, that doesn't seem like a concern to me. with what they're doing. If you put a multifamily in there or even low density residential, I'm not sure of the total acreage, but it looks to me like you would have a lot more traffic with residential cars going in and out of there. So then what this is, and another thing I like about it is that you have hours of operation of eight to five, somewhere in there, and then they're gonna be done for the day, and

3:20:02 – 3:22:43•DBDavid Bills

Councilor? Yes, sir. So I think it's compatible in such a way it's difficult. I understand that from the standpoint of the residents that are there. I believe that council could add as a part of the annexation to specify an eight-foot building fence as opposed to six on the, it's a, it's a bigger deal, but it, uh, East property line. Um, I, I personally think, uh, the light industrial has less impact than dividing it up in residential. Um, I think that, I think the neighbors candidly, if, if a, uh, Residential unit went in if there was sewer available to allow it to go in with the residential

Sorry? Your mic went out. No, it's green, but it's not working. I think if you went closer, you're okay.

3:22:58 – 3:23:51•DBDavid Bills

Is that better? Okay, my apology. Don't repeat everything, though. I couldn't remember if I could try. Okay. I'm just saying I think the use, while it could be awkward, I think also the applicant is trying to mitigate some of the concerns that have been raised. I think it's within our perusal, and I would be saying that we would require an eight-foot fence I don't know that a block wall is necessary, but a taller fence situation I think is appropriate on the east side. So those are my thoughts, and I think it would be beneficial to have the business here.

Councilwoman Scog, you're about the only one that hasn't summarized.

We saved the best for last. If she's brief, she may get my cookie before it's all over. I do understand everything that the wise councilman Bill said. I do respect what he says very much, and I do appreciate how well you have worked with the planning and zoning requests. However, there are 70 individuals that have signed a petition in this area. They live here, and they don't want to have a wall a building or a fence in their backyard to look at. And so I work for you, citizens. And I do believe that we need to have businesses, especially. And I do think that out on the other side of Happy Val

3:25:39 – 3:26:57•SGSebastian Griffin

Mayor? Is this a second summary? It's just a request. I think for me, possibly to get there, after doing a good long back and forth with ChatGPT, I have found that there aren't no trees that we should put there that would mitigate the issue. However, considering the neighbor's back doors, if there was a five to six foot tall berm and an eight foot tall fence, opaque in color, placed there, they shouldn't see the buildings, let alone the semis ever going by. I think that would be amenable rather than having even homes because something's going to go there Um, if there's homes, we might, we don'

So if there were to be a motion... Councilman, are you ready to make a motion with condition of approval?

3:27:03•SGSebastian Griffin

No, I'm not. But if there were to be a motion to include a berm in a fence, that's where I would be leaning more support.

Okay, let's move on for a motion. Everyone has spoken, so let's make a motion. Let's see what happens.

3:27:18 – 3:28:06•DBDavid Bills

Mayor, I'd make a motion to approve the annexation of zoning dial. Parcels listed on the screen. Closer. So with all the conditions that staff has listed and the added requirement with the annexation that there be a eight foot fence along the east boundary I think so. That's the motion. I can explain the fence issue in contrast to Councilman Griffin's deal, but that's the motion.

I hear a second. Any further discussion or explanation?

3:28:13 – 3:29:21•DBDavid Bills

So discussion-wise, I've been involved in putting in a great deal of landscape berms and then putting fence on top of those. Sometimes successful, sometimes not. And so I think it's better to get a good structural fence eight feet high. If you think about it, eight feet is going to be up to most of these houses' eave line. So a good sound barrier fence is going to do a lot in that regard. If it goes up a little bit on the landscape or grading plan, it's fine at one or two. I've also seen others put fence on berms and see the fence fall over. Um, there's just, it's just trying to basically get

3:29:22 – 3:29:50•DRDale Reynolds

Can it be some comment, Mr. Mayor? So, um, I was also thinking about the, uh, if you were to put single-family residential homes in there, would add a lot. I don't even know if you'd get enough subsurface disposal permits for septics on that many homes, and that would definitely affect their groundwater with a well of 30 feet versus having one septic for a couple of restrooms.

3:29:51•SGSebastian Griffin

Councilman? Is it specified that that fence is not going to be chain-linked?

3:30:03 – 3:30:14•DBDavid Bills

From my side, an eight-foot fence is going to be a structural fence. It's either block or it's going to be a heavy-duty material in order to meet that eight foot.

3:30:14 – 3:30:33•SGSebastian Griffin

I only spell it out because I'm dealing with a current development where we weren't super clear and it led to issues. So if we Unless it's in our code and says it cannot be chain link, I would really like to not have it be stated as chain link.

Thank you. So he's good with the second. Okay. So now we're ready for roll call, please.

They did. Yeah. When I, when I took this appointment, I, I made the promise. No ties. And this is the eighth one I've had in three months. So. Tuffy. Tuffy. Um, I'm going to vote yes on this. Let me just explain that. No way I'm going to make you folks happy over here. I understand that. But mainly two things. I feel like they've done everything they possibly can as far as to make things amenable to you from the distance changes, etc., And I'm also, from an airport standpoint, where I was listening to experts on what's going to be the plan for the future as far as them wanting to be this indus

That concludes, and we're going to take a break. Ten-minute break, please.

3:32:40•VRVictor Rodriguez

Why did it take me that long to urinate? I know.

on to 5-2 action item authorized mayor to sign sidewalk deferral agreement for 6-2-8-0 cherry lane for carl and gentry pisca and uh okay all in okay i'm ready for all in favor again mayor oh you want discussion i do okay discussion please

3:43:25•SGSebastian Griffin

What is the triggering event to require them to install the sidewalk? Does this... Because I see a neighborhood looking like it's going to be going in there very soon.

3:44:40 – 3:45:13•SGSebastian Griffin

When's the timeline for that? Is there any timeline for that? This one's hard for me because I constantly want to see at least minimal efforts of sidewalks going into the city. There's a major development going in there and we could do this piece by piece and I also don't want the developer on either the townhouses or this designated property to basically be off the hook because who knows when that street project goes in and who knows who owns it at that point.

3:45:27 – 3:45:40•SGSebastian Griffin

I assume that unit... 302, 306, 208. I apologize. Are they townhouses or apartments? That's the enclave apartments, and they have installed sidewalk along their frontage. And so we're talking about the western portion to the drain.

3:45:59 – 3:46:20•SGSebastian Griffin

And I also – and this is where I'm cutting against myself. I say we collect the funds now for the sidewalk project because I can't imagine by the time we actually get a road project through there, maybe Crystal can call it out, that this property owner is going to be the same. So is it a deed restriction saying when it's developed, you're going to be on the hook for it, whoever buys it?

3:46:32•SGSebastian Griffin

Crystal, how long is the timeline for that project? You can sit there and say it if you want.

Daniel? Crystal? You've been here a long time. Give me your opinion. Do you recommend this deferral?

Well, if it killed you, I for sure would. Because there again, you have to live for a year and then a few months. Okay. Okay, so if it doesn't quite meet 100% and when the future is unknown, I'm going to go no.

Okay, 5-3. Authorized mayor to sign cooperative agreement between the city of Nampa and Valley Regional Transit for transportation funding in the amount of $283,193. And this is approved. And for the FY27 budget, general government contractual services, mass transit.

Okay, 5-4. Authorize Fleet Services Division to generate purchase order Orders to various vendors and manufacturers for all vehicles and equipment authorized in the FY27 City of Napa capital budget, excluding vehicles and equipment for golf, for the total estimated amount of $4 million. Doug left already, didn't he? $882,253 approved in the F27 budget. So moved. Second. Did you hear that? Any discussion? We have that money, Doug.

When I ever see those million figures, I guess people now say a million is nothing. It's a billion, right? Mayor? Yes.

3:49:53 – 3:50:32•SGSebastian Griffin

Just for a comment for Doug, in our calculation for our Fiscal impact analysis. Can we use the high number on police replacements when we're factoring in that number? Because I know it's easy to calculate impact fee dollars and saying, okay, we get to cover the first, but now that we're losing vehicles and needing to cover the replacements. If we could capture the full amount of anticipated vehicles that are going to be replaced as we continue to grow, I would like that factored in beyond just the impact fee analysis, but rather when we're actually having to pay the bill like we are tonight.

3:50:58 – 3:51:12•SGSebastian Griffin

Just clarification then. How is it clarified in the current analysis? Are we factoring in just the impact fee number of the initial vehicle, or are we factoring in the replacement?

Thank you, council. That was an unusual unanimous. All right, let's go. First this year. Sometimes we're nice. It's a rough night for you. Everyone feeling okay? Yeah.

3:51:36•SGSebastian Griffin

Okay. All right. I think this next one might be a 3-3, though. Prepare yourself. Who knows?

5-5. Oh, that's right. But we were going to have some discussion from legal, I understand, right, on 5-5? Yes.

Time-wise, we're feeling comfortable, Butch?

3:52:54•SGSebastian Griffin

Do we need a motion for this, Mayor? A continuation?

I don't think we're going to act on it. We're just moving it off. Yeah, we're taking it off and putting it on Thursday.

Okay, and Council, we're going to have a quorum on the 15th. Everyone's going to be there? Thank you. 5.6. Action item. Authorize Mayor and Public Works Director to approve the direct selection and award the contract to L2 Excavation for the annual aerial replacement FY26 project in the amount not to exceed $1,118,342.79. Okay. And this was partially approved in FY27 budget, remainder pending approval in FY27 budget. And as John, as usual, you got to stay. So do anybody want to make a motion or do we need to hear from you?

A second. Okay. Any discussion? Okay, roll call, please.

Okay, 5-7 is the first reading of ordinance and approval of publication of ordinance summary granting Intermountain Gas Company a 20-year extension to its franchise agreement, and this is to request to pass under suspension of rules. We'll move. No, she has to read it.

3:56:23•DBDavid Bills

You can do it. Make a motion to pass under suspension rules. Second. Rocco.

Okay, our final action item is 5-8. It's first reading of ordinance amending Title IX, Chapter 5, Section 4 of the Nampa City Code, Hours of Operation for Specific Lighted Sports Amenities Within the Parks at the Discretion of the Parks and Recreation Director. So moved. Is that good? No, no, no, not. Request to pass under suspension of rules, and we need an ordinance read.

3:57:22•SGSebastian Griffin

I'll make a motion to approve. Second. Under suspension of rules. Okay, roll call.

Okay. Unfinished business. We're going to work hard tonight with these readings. So here we go. Action item is 7-1, unfinished business. First reading of ordinance for zoning map amendment from B.C., community business to B.N., neighborhood business and R.D., Two-family duplex residential zoning districts in development agreement modification for Spring Shores Commons addressed as zero. Cherry Lane for Endurance Holdings LLC request to pass under suspension rules.

4:00:28•DRDale Reynolds

Mayor, I move this pass under suspension of rules.

4:00:31 – 4:01:12•SGSebastian Griffin

Mayor, question. Yes. Just in regard to the development agreement, and it might be for Rodney, I'm trying to remember this specific project by looking at its site plan as well as the development agreement restrictions that we were requesting within it. Is this that cottage cluster type style where the park is in the center of the backyards of all those little townhouses? Did we call out, I thought there was something about the dog park being called out for a specific location, but I didn't see it within the development agreement. Is that written somewhere that I might have missed? Or am I maki

4:01:35 – 4:02:06•SGSebastian Griffin

And I can't either. I tried to look back. I'm going off of the site plan where it's showing that they have the $238,000 townhouses that will be for sale in that center portion, and then there's going to be the park there. But I couldn't remember if the dog run along the back. I just remember there being language specific to the actual dog park, and I'm not seeing it in the development agreement, so I'm not fully certain if it was applied or not. And once again, I apologize for

4:02:21•SGSebastian Griffin

Can you tell me the difference between a condition of approval and the development agreement?

4:02:59 – 4:03:20•SGSebastian Griffin

So what do we have as teeth? if something is not in the development agreement to go after a development for not honoring a condition of approval rather than... And, Rodney, this is, if I may just refine... 7-1, we're on.

We're still in discussion. We have a motion and a second on that.

4:03:25 – 4:03:43•SGSebastian Griffin

I think you were about to call roll call, and I cut you off, so I apologize, Mayor. I think it's just important, especially knowing the... We want to be sure that these development agreements are spelled out. If it was intended to be part of the development agreement rather than a condition of use, I just know it was a hot topic for that night, and it might be something that we want to have written.

4:04:12•SGSebastian Griffin

So we need to be looking for it in the consent agenda as well moving forward.

4:04:31 – 4:04:48•SGSebastian Griffin

Well, and I know it was a close vote either way, so it might not have even been part of the motion. I just remembered the discussion, and I want to be sure I have this process right moving forward for development agreements to be able to look for an unfinished business and on the consent agenda. Just adds another step, I suppose.

4:05:16•SGSebastian Griffin

What has more teeth, a development agreement or a condition of approval?

4:05:23 – 4:05:37•SGSebastian Griffin

I love that lawyerly answer. Moving forward, I think it would be worth having them in the actual development agreement rather than conditions of approval because I want a binding agreement. Something that's notarized, something that's signed and recorded might be of value.

Yeah, we may have a sidebar later between the two attorneys, if that works. No. Okay. Are you ready for a road call?

We are now ready for 7-2. Action item first reading of ordinance for the annexation and zoning to IL Light Industrial for a 7.06 acre parcel. Addressed as 73 North Happy Valley Road zoning map amendment from R.A. Suburban Residential to I.L. Light Industrial for a 20.02 acre parcel addressed as 91 North Happy Valley Road for Lindsay Johnson representing the city of Napa. This is approved by city attorney, President Rudder. Request to pass under suspension of rules. We'll read that.

4:08:52•DRDale Reynolds

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE THIS PASS AND SUSPENSION OF RULES. I CAN'T. I CAN'T. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

Our final unfinished business is 7-3, first reading of ordinance for the vacation of an emergency access easement on parcel addressed as 3-1-8-4 East Mossy Rock Court or Nathan Brown, or it should be 4, I would imagine, Nathan Brown Mecham. Approved by attorneys Press and Rudder, prequest to pass under suspension of rule.

4:10:18•SGSebastian Griffin

Move to approve under suspension of rules. Okay, roll call.

Okay, that completes the business. We need a motion to adjourn into executive session pursuant to Idaho Code 74-206. Oh, no. Wait. Sorry. Hold on.

As usual, I missed it. Oh, thank you. Maybe one of these meetings I'll remember that. Okay, so this is what is the general discussion to communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending litigation or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently likely to be litigated as it relates to a proposed settlement agreement with a contractor who failed to perform on a water line replacement project. So we had a roll call on that one?

So motion and a second. And then roll call, please.