Board of Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Monday, October 5, 2026Official site

The Wake County Board of Commissioners approved the acquisition of 3211 Bramer Drive for non-congregate women's shelter, abolished and re-established the Wake County Fire Tax District to remove the town of Wendell, and heard public comments on real estate revaluation and local issues.

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of Commissioners
Meeting Type
Board Of Commissioners
Location
Wake County, NC
Meeting Date
October 5, 2026

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Only published remarks appear here. The full transcript is not published.

119 sections (from 135 segments)

42:13•Don Mial

Good afternoon, everyone. We will now call this meeting to order. We will start with the Pledge of Allegiance, and then we will have invocation by Commissioner Shanika Thomas.

42:43 – 45:13•Shinica Thomas

Good afternoon, everyone. Please remain standing with me, and I ask you to take a moment of reflection however you wish. Before I offer today's invocation, I'd like to take a brief moment of personal privilege. As the daughter of immigrants from Trinidad and Tobago, I share a deep appreciation for the sacrifices, hopes, and determination that brought my family to this country. And today, my 89-year-old grandmother is here in this room to see me serve for the first time. Grandma, having you here means more than I can put into words. To look out and see you while I sit here as a Wake County Comm

45:20 – 45:54•Don Mial

Good afternoon everyone and welcome to today's meeting. The first item on the agenda today will begin with the approval of the agenda. May I have a motion to approve? I have a motion by Commissioner Stahls and a second by Commissioner Evans. All in favor, please say aye. Those opposed, please say no. Not hearing any, the motion carries. The next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes of our regular meeting of September the 8th, 2026 and our work session of August 10th, 2026. Is there a motion to approve the minutes?

45:55•Shinica Thomas

Chairman, I move approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of September 8th, 2026 and the work session of August 10th, 2026.

46:01 – 46:23•Don Mial

We have a motion by Commissioner Thomas. Is there a second? I second by Commissioner Stallings. All in favor, please say aye. All those opposed, please say no. Not hearing any, the motion carries. Now let's move on to our retiree recognition. Manager Ellis, would you like to walk us through these?

46:33 – 46:52•Don Mial

Okay, well, we always got good staff, so we're trying to hold on to them. Okay, we'll start then with our first proclamation, our Youth Confidence Day proclamation. They'll be read by Commissioner Shignika Thomas and accepted by Rebecca Dixon, Youth Employment Program Manager, City of Raleigh Youth Services Division.

47:05 – 47:38•Shinica Thomas

I'd love to see it. You all can stand right here. Rebecca, you can stand with me. I love that the young people just keep coming.

47:57 – 51:26•Shinica Thomas

Good afternoon, everyone. It's truly a pleasure to be here today to recognize Youth Confidence Day and to present this proclamation to Rebecca Dixon, Youth Employment Manager with the City of Raleigh's Community Engagement Division. When we talk about preparing our young people for the future, we often focus on education, jobs, skills, and opportunity, and all those things do matter. But there is something just as important that we do not always talk about enough, and that is confidence. Confidence is what helps a young person raise their hand. Apply for opportunity, walk into the interviews,

51:27•Don Mial

Thank you, Commissioner Thomas. We have a motion on the table. Is there a second?

51:35•Don Mial

I heard Commissioner Waters, I think, was the first one there. So motion made by Commissioner Thomas, second by Commissioner Waters. All in favor, please say aye.

51:48•Shinica Thomas

Thank you so much. Ms. Dixon, this is for you. Thank you so much for the work that you do. And the microphone is yours.

54:25 – 55:09•Don Mial

Awesome. Awesome. Next item on the agenda would have been item four for breast cancer, but that was changed, so that would be on the 19th. So the next item on the agenda would be item five, which is honor Angel Prince in the fifth annual remembrance of our little angel's awareness walk proclamation. Reading will be the vice chair. Sophia Jackson is set up by Brandon Tashita Wiggins, founders of Angel Print Foundation.

55:38 – 59:58•Safiyah Jackson

Okay, today we recognize October as National Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month. Before we continue, I would like to invite us to all take a moment of silence. Thank you. There is no sound more profound than the silence left behind when a newborn life is taken too soon. Behind every loss is a family standing in heartbreak, carrying memories of what should have been. Today, it is our distinct privilege to honor Angel Prince, cooperation and organization founded by Brandon and Toshina Wiggins. As our county presents this official proclamation to Angel Prince, we honor the memory of every

59:59 – 1:00:12•Don Mial

Thank you, Vice Chair. We have a motion by Commissioner Jackson. Is there a second? Second by Commissioner Thomas. All in favor, please say aye. Those opposed, please say no. Not hearing any, the motion carries.

1:00:12•Safiyah Jackson

Okay, and now we will hear from the founders. Thank you so much. Thank you.

1:03:27 – 1:03:41•Don Mial

Now let's move on to our consent agenda. And as a reminder, all items of consent agenda are considered to be routine and may be enacted by one motion. Is there a motion to approve each item in the consent agenda?

1:03:44•Don Mial

I have a motion by Commissioner Stallings. Is there a second? We have a second by Commissioner Evans. All in favor, please say aye.

1:03:53 – 1:05:21•Don Mial

All those opposed, please say no. Not hearing any, the motion carries. Okay, now we'll move on to general public comments. There are four opportunity for residents to speak today. If you are here to speak about the 2027 real estate revaluation or the two five district items, please wait for those public hearings later in the meeting. Now we'll start the general public comment period. Attendees had an opportunity to sign up using our online sign up app. We've also provided opportunities to sign up here in person before the meeting began. To keep the comment period moving, I will call several na

1:11:54 – 1:12:15•Don Mial

Thank you. Thank you to everyone who signed up to speak during the general comment period. That completes the list of names I will provide for this meeting. We also offer residents the opportunity to submit general comments online. This process is managed by our clerk. Ms. Gilead, would you kindly share any online public comments that you've received for this meeting?

1:12:16•Tara Waters

Yes, sir. There were no additional comments, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

1:12:19 – 1:12:37•Don Mial

Thank you, Ms. Gill. Now we'll begin our regular agenda. The first item concerned, the acquisition of property at 3211 Bramall Drive. Morgan Manser, our housing director, is here to present this item. Morgan, welcome, and please go with your presentation.

1:22:57 – 1:23:21•Don Mial

Thank you, Morgan, for the great presentation. Are there any questions or comments? Commissioner Waters, and then Commissioner Adamson, and then Commissioner Jackson. Yeah, you can go. Okay, go ahead.

1:23:22 – 1:23:48•Tara Waters

Thank you so much for the presentation, Morgan. We know this is a important need to address in our community. Can you speak a little bit more about the due diligence part that you mentioned as it relates to the fiscal ability to take on this project, and if that included review of certain documents, audits, and things of that nature?

1:24:17 – 1:24:39•Tara Waters

And then also, in terms of understanding the timeline, since the Women's Center is already at the facility, can you help just kind of clarify that this was a property already on the county's purview as well as it already being leased? I think that might be helpful to clarify.

1:26:34 – 1:27:25•Tara Waters

And given the number of partners that the housing team works with on a regular basis, we had our affordable housing meeting this afternoon and just really impressed by the number of partners. You mentioned that the Women's Center volunteered. What did the process look like for you reaching out to other organizations who have capacity, staff, and the ability to serve in the same capacity because the word volunteer doesn't clarify for me that there was an opportunity for others perhaps to step up and indicate their ability or willingness to do the same. Can you speak to what volunteer looked lik

1:28:54 – 1:29:06•Tara Waters

And so I'll make space for my colleagues to ask questions, but it sounds more like you identified the best partner as opposed to, you know, a broader process to search among those that might be available.

1:30:24 – 1:31:55•Safiyah Jackson

Okay, thank you Morgan. And thank you for answering our questions before this time and also bringing this opportunity for continued conversation. And also the due diligence that was brought forward to consider other options. I had a chance to visit the center and was just continuously impressed with the way the Women's Center has run the operation in the interim. And double thanks to the board for stepping in to expand their scope of mission in this interim process. My question about the conversation on the table is you've mentioned a couple times unique and timely. We've got the timely piece

1:33:26 – 1:33:37•Safiyah Jackson

Got it. And then part two of that, just the uniqueness of a nonprofit being able to lean into these capital operations and renovations. Can you share a little insight into that?

1:34:53 – 1:35:53•Safiyah Jackson

Okay, well, I just wanna acknowledge that the spirit of Commissioner Waters' question, I agree with. I think that we should maintain open and transparent and give nonprofits an opportunity, and I hear in this particular situation, you all did that due diligence, and the uniqueness of the Women's Center presented an opportunity take advantage of a timeliness. I will say our partners from the Wilmington City Council came and it is where I toured the center with them and it is just amazing the lives that are transformed in that building and I'm really happy to hear that we have an opportunity to

1:37:08 – 1:37:20•Safiyah Jackson

And I'm believing that evidence will be presented to justify the special use permit. In the case that evidence is not permitted and it's not granted, what are the scenarios and thoughts?

1:38:03 – 1:38:23•Susan Evans

Well, I want to start by saying we're all very excited, I think, that we are going to have a solution for additional non-congregate shelter. We talk about these things often in housing discussions, but the general public might not know what we mean by what's a non-congregate shelter versus a drop-in. Could you take a moment to define the difference?

1:39:27 – 1:41:42•Susan Evans

I think it's going to be a great, great solution for a number of folks in our community that are ready for that next step. And I very much appreciate that the Women's Center is in a strong position and willing to take this on. And so I just want to clarify, when I first heard about it, this particular way that this transaction was being set up for us to buy this property and then... basically give it to the Women's Center to operate seemed different from how we had done things before. And so I've just been trying to wrap my head around it. But my understanding is that our only investment will

1:42:47 – 1:43:36•Susan Evans

That's great. And yes, I appreciate that staff shared some information with us throughout the week that did highlight the other nonprofits that are involved in this space. And we're in much better shape than we were, say, a decade ago in serving this population. So I'm really excited about that. So I just want to make sure I'm understanding everything. The renovations to the Second Street Shelter, that we've been working on and therefore haven't been using that facility for better part of a year maybe. That is about to be complete and we will go back to using that for the drop-in shelter, whit

1:43:50 – 1:44:14•Susan Evans

So that's to be determined who will be the operator of that, but we'll have... That building, that will be being operated for a drop-in white flag shelter. And then if we proceed with this, then we're supporting the Women's Center to operate the congregate shelter. And they will take care of upfitting the building and running the program. And we're just helping with the capital acquisition.

1:44:31 – 1:45:47•Vickie Adamson

Thank you, Morgan. I know when I was chair of the housing committee, one of the years, when this building first come open and we got really excited about it and it didn't work out. So I'm excited about the building. It's the other process that I'm really struggling with. As a member of the Housing Committee, I didn't hear about this till I saw it on the agenda. And it feels like to me that this is a big process change and policy change for what we normally do. And I'm still trying to get my arms around why you didn't feel the need to come to us and call us, say, hey, look, we've got this great

1:46:42 – 1:47:07•Vickie Adamson

Okay, so you didn't have an opportunity to call us or text us and say, hey, I'm about to buy a building, and this is what I'm gonna do with it. So I hope this is not our process going forward that we buy a building and I read about it on the agenda. Now you said that the Women's Center volunteered to run this building when we were able to, because I understand we're probably leasing it now, aren't we?

1:47:14•Vickie Adamson

So they are receiving operating money from us now?

1:47:26 – 1:48:58•Vickie Adamson

And you mentioned, I've got a bunch of questions. I'm trying to put them in logical order here. You mentioned... that there's four items to be read as part of this agenda item. And two of them's to purchase the building and two of them's to convey it. Why do you not see those as separate agenda items? Because I'm gonna make a motion to split those. Because normally, we make the decision to purchase a building, and then we make the decision of who's gonna run it. We don't do it in the same one. And you mentioned on the second street shelter, we're doing an RFP for who's gonna run it. And I'm co

1:50:40 – 1:51:12•Vickie Adamson

Okay, so one of the things that we've always done with the grants is we will grant on the part of the building that's not administrative space. We only grant on part that is actually programming use. and that would include a space for staff that's direct program staff. Are they planning to move their administrative offices in there, and are they gonna reimburse us for that part of the building?

1:51:46•Vickie Adamson

So they're not gonna use it for management and general administration. It'll be all used for programming.

1:52:34 – 1:53:28•Vickie Adamson

Okay. I was more thinking about general administration, not folks who directly provide services. And I've heard a lot about women... unaccompanied women, but I haven't heard anything about women who are fleeing domestic violence. And right now, Interact Shelter, as you're aware, is way overcrowded. And it's very difficult for the unaccompanied women to really mesh in the shelter, because it's families. And a lot of them end up in hotels, which is not the safest for somebody whose life is in danger. So when you were setting this up, was there any consideration for our unaccompanied women who ar

1:54:03•Vickie Adamson

So you're going to give DB services over there then?

1:54:38 – 1:55:11•Vickie Adamson

Okay, my last question. This conveyance, I'm not supposed to call it a giveaway, I'm supposed to call it a conveyance, is for perpetuity. And what do we have in place to decide when this is not working? Is there a schedule that they're expected to do the renovations? Is there a number of people they're supposed to be serving? How do we know when they're not living up to their part of the bargain?

1:55:37•Vickie Adamson

So there's a written plan they'll have that says these are the milestones you have to meet and these are the dates.

1:56:21•Vickie Adamson

When you get that timeline from the Women's Center, can you share that with us?

1:56:26•Don Mial

Yeah. Commissioner Stallings, then Commissioner Thomas, and then Commissioner Waters.

1:56:31 – 1:57:07•Cheryl Stallings

Okay. Thank you, colleagues, for the good questions and for the good answers. Morgan, I appreciate all the detail that's gone into this and thoughtfulness that's gone into this. It sounds like I hear you saying this does serve an identified need for non-congregant shelter for single women. I hear you saying for women who are victims of domestic violence, this could be an option, potentially. for single. Could you talk a little bit about, I wanna ask here a little more about the medical respite services. Are there other community partners who are providing those services now?

1:59:52•Cheryl Stallings

And then the follow-up, I think, to what Commissioner Adamson was talking about, Interact is also a partner and could be a partner for women experiencing domestic violence. Is that right?

2:00:28 – 2:01:34•Shinica Thomas

Thank you, Chairman. Morgan, first I would like to say that I really appreciate your body of knowledge. I appreciate the depth that you know about housing and about community partners and that this work in general. So thank you. You and your team do an excellent job at keeping us informed and understanding and helping community understand and establishing new partnerships. So I just want to start by that. The other thing is that I'm going to try not to cut you off. by asking you more questions or answering the questions that I'm asking you while you're trying to answer them. One, commercial pr

2:02:32 – 2:02:53•Shinica Thomas

Thank you. You mentioned someone else taking advantage or use for the property. What are some of the other, in your professional opinion, some of the other uses or some of the other people that might want to buy it? You said organizations like us, but there could be other organizations. So what could be other uses for this particular piece of property, considering its location and access?

2:03:57•Shinica Thomas

Thank you, two more questions. One, have we ever before had to make an acquisition that was time sensitive because of market conditions like this in the housing department?

2:04:56 – 2:05:16•Shinica Thomas

Thank you. And then the last thing is, and I think we've kind of talked a little bit about it, but you mentioned white flag options. You talked about the seasons changing. It's getting a little cooler. And so what are the other white flag options for single women in congregate spaces that we have right now as we look at the Farmer's Almanac and consider what this winter is going to look like?

2:06:42 – 2:06:58•Shinica Thomas

Thank you, that's helpful. And just one more comment, not a question. I hope that, as one commissioner speaking, I hope that it does not become our process that you text me about things that are coming up on the agenda. I get lots of text messages. I'd much rather read things on my agenda and read things in my email. So thank you again, Morgan.

2:07:02 – 2:08:54•Tara Waters

Thank you. I just really want to acknowledge, as you showed in the presentation, the strong history of the Women's Center in Raleigh. I want to date myself and say I remember when it was on Harker Street under the Cafe Luna area building. I really appreciate the longevity of the Women's Center and having had its presence at one point in Southeast Raleigh on New Bern Avenue, so i really appreciate the work of the women's center and most recently when my state of the county was taped in the new facility and so all my questions come from a place of wanting success for any collaboration that we ha

2:10:32 – 2:11:07•Tara Waters

Managing expectations I think is an important part of things going effectively because sometimes parties have different expectations and so understanding what these expectations are from the county and what this would look like for the really vulnerable neighbors that we're hoping to serve, what that would look like long term and if we come to a place which you never want it to happen What would this look like in terms of saying, hey, this is not working the way that we had hoped? How do you establish those parameters? When you establish those parameters and how do you enforce those parameters

2:12:20 – 2:12:36•Tara Waters

Okay, and so ideally if this passes, then that would be the next step to have that conversation to come to an agreement on what these terms could look like and how we enforce those terms. Absolutely. Okay, thank you.

2:13:21 – 2:14:35•Tara Waters

And I appreciate that. And again, I'm just asking the questions to ensure my understanding and to, make an informed vote and also to advocate for what is best for a really special and vulnerable part of our neighboring community. And then also one thing that you mentioned earlier in terms of audits and reviewing of financial solvency of the Women's Center and their ability to take on a project of this capacity, I believe you said you looked at the publicly available Did there seem to be any concerns that you saw when you looked at the publicly available data? Because I've sort of glanced reall

2:15:59•Tara Waters

And once, if the building is purchased and conveyed, will the housing department cease its support of operational costs?

2:16:44 – 2:17:32•Don Mial

Thank you, Morgan. Great presentation. Of course, I was there when we opened the doors at Second Street along with you. It was cold outside and we were trying to make sure we got that project up and running. And more importantly, your wealth of knowledge, I totally agree with Commissioner Thomason in terms of what you bring to the table. And we have the utmost respect for what you do. And of course, our County Manager also talked about what our Housing Department does. i think we had a great meeting a committed meeting this morning there with our housing section and your guys came over and the

2:17:36•Vickie Adamson

Chair, my understanding is I need to make my motion first. Is that correct? Or do we make the general motion first?

2:17:51•Don Mial

Okay, Commissioner Jackson was the first one to call for making a motion. Go ahead with your motion.

2:17:57 – 2:19:12•Safiyah Jackson

I'd like to make a motion as presented that the Board of Commissioners authorizes the acquisition of 3211 Brammer Drive, Raleigh, North Carolina at a purchase of $4,150,000 and authorizes the county manager to execute any documentation necessary to acquire the property subject to the terms and conditions acceptable to the county attorney. and adopts the resolution authorizing the transfer of 3211 Bramer Drive, Raleigh, North Carolina, to the Women's Center of Wake County, Inc., the Women's Center, a 501 nonprofit organization for the purpose of creating non-congregate emergency shelter in acco

2:19:13•Don Mial

Okay, we have a motion by Commissioner Jackson, and we have a second by Commissioner Thomas. All in favor, please say aye.

2:19:34 – 2:20:18•Vickie Adamson

Thank you. I was hoping to do a motion and split this. You talked about it's two motions, the acquisition and then the conveyance. But it looks like I'm not going to have the opportunity to do that. So I am totally in favor of purchasing the building. I think it's a good purchase. I think it's a good idea. I wish the commission had been involved in the opportunity to decide the programming in the building. But I do think it's unfair to our other nonprofits and the taxpayers to not put an RFP out for the conveyance of the building. So I will be voting no.

2:20:24 – 2:21:25•Tara Waters

Thank you. And thank you, Morgan, for the time that you took to walk through a lot of the questions. And I see our partners from the Women's Center here in the room. So this is an important, important asset for our community. And I completely am in support of the purchase. I don't feel still that I have all the information that I have to make the best vote in support of the property, but I still have some questions as it relates to the conveyance and the huge fiscal ask of the Women's Center. So those, I was hoping that we would be able to split these apart as well just to, that I feel comfort

2:21:26•Don Mial

Thank you, Commissioner Waters. Okay, any other comments? Okay, then we will go ahead and vote. Commissioner Stallings?

2:21:42•Vickie Adamson

No, and please remember that overcommunication is always better than under.

2:22:02•Don Mial

Commissioner Waters, I'm sorry, because she already made the comment. I'm sorry, but please go ahead.

2:22:06 – 2:22:23•Tara Waters

Yes, and thank you. And again, affirming the need for this property, the importance of it in our community. I just don't have an assurance now to make an informed yes vote, so I'll have to unfortunately vote no at this time.

2:22:24 – 2:22:43•Don Mial

Thank you. Okay. Okay. Yeah, we need to move one item before we move on to another one, Commissioner Adamson. Okay, so we got five yeses and two noes.

2:22:48•Shinica Thomas

Thank you. Morgan, thank you. Mr. Chairman, I agree with Commissioner Adamson. May we please take a break?

2:22:58•Don Mial

Yes. We'll go ahead and take a five minute break.

2:23:48 – 2:24:15•Don Mial

Call the meeting back to order. The first public hearing is on proposed schedules, standards, and rules to be used for the 2027 real estate revaluation. Nicole Chrysler, correct me if I'm wrong, Chrysler? Chrysler, okay. And our Deputy Tax Administrator is here to present this item. Marcus, welcome as well. Please go ahead and begin.

2:49:52 – 2:50:04•Don Mial

Thank you, Nicole. Before we open up for the public hearing, I want to make a note. Madam Clerk, please add that Commissioner Thomas had an excuse absent for the rest of the meeting.

2:50:07 – 2:50:30•Don Mial

Okay, well, this time we will now open up for public hearing. I have two individuals that have signed up for a public hearing, James Nelson and Mark Stoneman. You have three minutes to present and keep our own lights there.

2:53:34 – 2:53:47•Don Mial

Okay, sir, I hate to cut you off. No, no, that's okay. But please leave your notes there in the box right there that All right, awesome. Thank you so much. Mark.

2:56:29 – 2:56:40•Don Mial

Thank you. Madam Clerk, did we get any comments or emails, anything?

2:56:44 – 2:57:01•Don Mial

Thank you. At this time, then we will go ahead and close on the two names that we have. We'll go ahead and close the public hearing. Commissioner, any discussion or question before we close this item? Okay, Commissioner Evans.

2:57:03 – 2:58:34•Susan Evans

yeah I just wanted to comment to the staff about what an excellent job they try to do to be very methodical on witness process and also just to commend you on all the ways that you are trying to work with the taxpayers in the community you know I think I feel like you go above and beyond the average, and I appreciate that. We have acknowledged in the past, and we'll know it'll be again the case this time, that it's a heavy lift to get the information out there to people to help them understand all that's happening and why it's happening, but the thing that drives me the craziest during, and th

2:58:37 – 2:59:49•Safiyah Jackson

Yes, ditto. The video is really awesome and I can't wait to post it and share and hope that it gets lots of views. Like Commissioner Evans, I also appreciate the diligence in laying out how this process happens. We're using real real estate values. We're doing, you know, neighborhooding, looking at micro markets and really trying to account for very specific situations. Also really appreciate how available the office is and the variety of ways that people can express their concerns, ask their questions, appeal processes. That level of accessibility and customer service is to be noted. I know i

3:00:05 – 3:00:46•Safiyah Jackson

new pieces of property get carved out created built a year some of those are going to still be vacant land but most of those end up with the structure put on them awesome thank you for clarifying that that's that's wow um i accessed before but i think it is important to continue to lift up can you share um some specific learnings because um We aren't just operating in robot style mechanically. We're learning from. And so can you share what did your team learn from last reevaluation that has gone to enhance the approach to this particular evaluation?

3:04:19 – 3:04:53•Safiyah Jackson

Thanks, Matthew. Awesome, thank you. Go ahead. yet so just one last question here can you describe so we heard in public comments a request for independent review has the county ever done anything like that before I'm just curious what the precedent for that is and also how do our protocols align with national national international or state standards so

3:05:56•Don Mial

Thank you. Okay, Commissioner Waters, and then Commissioner Anderson.

3:06:00 – 3:07:10•Tara Waters

Thank you so much for this update. When our neighbors hear about property valuation, it can increase anxiety and a lot of concern, especially among our legacy residents. And so I just wanted to acknowledge the work that you have done to reach out and be in community. We have, at least in District 5, a number of organizations that have convened and have asked a lot of questions and have done a lot of advocacy. And the team, Marcus particularly, has been really present in Southeast Raleigh and in other communities to answer questions and to make changes that impact our residents in a positive wa

3:07:18 – 3:08:45•Vickie Adamson

Thank you for bringing this forward. real political hot topic right now. But before I get started, I just have three quick questions. The gentleman who came and asked the questions about the square footage, the land under a townhouse, he has sat here for two and a half hours to talk to us. And he apparently tried to get answers some other way and didn't. Is there any way you can respond to him and make sure he gets a complete answer on how we do that land evaluation? yes and we've been in communication you have been in communication great i just wanted to make sure thank you um last time i was

3:08:57•Vickie Adamson

All right, thank you. That's good to have it. After you quit freaking out about the number and see what else is in that envelope. Thank you.

3:09:10 – 3:09:35•Cheryl Stallings

I just want to echo, too, the thoroughness and the comprehensive work you all do and also accessibility as well. I want to thank you all, your staff, for being accessible to our residents when they have questions and accessible to me as a board member when I have questions as well. So thank you for that. And could you just restate again for the public, why does more frequent revows make the system more transparent and fair? Sometimes I think that bears repeating.

3:10:56•Cheryl Stallings

And could you also expand a little more about the regional meetings that you had referenced early and what you think that will look like?

3:12:39 – 3:13:11•Don Mial

okay thank you nicole and marcus and your team we appreciate you guys coming forward this evening and bring along great information so again thank you so much thank you yeah and now we will move on to our next item is public hearing on the abolishment of the existing wake county fire tax district Staff from the County Attorney's Office and the Fire Emergency Management Department are here to walk us through this matter. So Daryl and your team, please go ahead with your presentation.

3:20:04•Don Mial

Please come forward. Thank you. Mark Collins and Brian Staples.

3:21:41 – 3:22:05•Don Mial

Thank you. We'll go ahead and close the public hearing. We only had those two come forward. Madam Clerk, did we get any emails or comments? We did not, Mr. Okay, thank you. Commissions, any discussion or questions before we close this item? Commissioner Adamson.

3:22:06 – 3:22:17•Vickie Adamson

Daryl, I just want to thank you for doing such a comprehensive process. I don't think we've ever done anything with the fire service that was so well received and unanimous. Thank you.

3:22:24 – 3:22:38•Don Mial

Commissioner Waters, do you have a comment or a question? Okay, at this time we close the public hearing. Is there a motion to adopt the resolution abolishing the Wake County Fire Tax District?

3:22:38 – 3:23:27•Safiyah Jackson

Yes, Chair, I'm happy to make that motion. Following the public hearing, Yes, I'm sorry, started in the middle. Yes, I make a motion that we, having held a public hearing regarding the proposed abolishment of the Wake County Fire Tax District pursuant to NCGS 153A-306, and following and having had that public hearing, find there is no longer a need for the existing Wake County Fire Tax District in its current form and that there are no outstanding bonds or notes issued to finance projects in the district and that we adopt the resolution abolishing the Wake County Fire Tax District effective Ju

3:23:29 – 3:23:55•Don Mial

Okay, we have a motion by Commissioner Jackson and a second by Commissioner Waters. So the question on the motion is to adopt a resolution abolishing the Wake County Fire Tax District, effective June 30th, 2027. All those in favor, please say aye. All those opposed, please say no. Not hearing any, the motion carries. And then we will move on to the next item.

3:24:16 – 3:24:43•Don Mial

Okay. Okay. We will go ahead and open up the public hearing. Don't have a list of anyone want to make a comment at this particular time, not seeing any, so we will go ahead and close the public hearing. Madam Clerk, is there an overview of any comments you received today? Okay, we will go ahead and close the public hearing. Commission will end discussion of questions before we close this item.

3:24:49 – 3:25:35•Susan Evans

not seeing any okay uh is there a motion to adopt a resolution establishing the wake county fire protection service district effective july 1 2027. yes chair i moved that the board of commissioners having held a public hearing regarding the proposed establishment of a new wake county fire protection service district pursuant to ncgs 153a-302 finds that the proposed district meets the standards and findings required in that statute and adopts the resolution establishing the Wake County Fire Protection Service District effective July 1, 2027 with boundaries that exclude the corporate limits of t

3:25:36 – 3:26:12•Don Mial

Okay, a motion made by Commissioner Evans and second by Commissioner Stallings. The question on the motion to adopt a resolution establishing the Wake County Fire Protection Service District effective July 1, 2027. All those in favor, please say aye. All those opposed, please say no. Not hearing any. The ayes have it. Motion carries. And that's everything we have for our regular agenda today. So now we'll move on to our appointments. Madam Vice, does the Board of Commission have any appointments to make to the Citizen Advisory Board of Commission at this time?

3:26:13 – 3:26:33•Safiyah Jackson

Yes, we do have several. These appointments, applications were due the close of business of September 17th, and I bring forward these appointments to the board for approval on today, October 5th.

3:26:44 – 3:29:36•Safiyah Jackson

Okay. All right. so i move that the board of commissioners appoint the following individuals to their respective boards or commissions as set forth adult care home community advisory community committee one reappointment received by the adult care home community advisory committee of andre adriana scott wolf The Capital Area Workforce Development, one resignation, Tamika Walker-Kelly, who represents our public sector labor representative. The Cary Board of Adjustment, one reappointment of Charles McDarris, the ETJ representative. We have Cary Planning and Zoning Board, one reappointment of Chr

3:29:37 – 3:29:59•Don Mial

We have a motion by Commissioner Jackson and second by Commissioner Evans. All those in favor, please say aye. All those opposed, please say no. Not hearing any, the ayes have it. Motion carries. Thank you, Commissioner. And before we move on, Vice Chair, please let us know which vacancy we will have coming up next month.

3:29:59 – 3:30:25•Safiyah Jackson

Yes, these applications will be due October 15th, 2026, and these appointments will be made November 2nd, 2026. We have the Fire Commission with one possible reappointment. We have the Health and Human Services Board with one possible reappointment and one term completion. And we have the United Arts Grants Panel with one possible reappointment. And that's it.

3:30:26•Don Mial

Thank you, Madam Vice. Commission, would anyone like to share an update from an advisor or regional board that you are appointed to? Commissioner Stallings.

3:30:36 – 3:33:30•Cheryl Stallings

Yes, thank you, Chair. A couple of updates from the County Health and Human Services Board. Our public health staff are reminding everyone that vaccines are available, preventative vaccines for the whooping cough and measles and hepatitis B, and also the flu and the COVID vaccines are available. So just encouraging people to, if you have questions, please ask our public health staff or your physician if you have questions about vaccines. And thanks to Ben Canada, who came and gave us a legislative update. to our 7.30 a.m. meeting on Thursday. Our board is very active in wanting to know how the

3:33:30•Don Mial

Awesome. Thank you. Commissioner Adamson and then Commissioner Waters.

3:33:35 – 3:34:21•Vickie Adamson

Yes, thanks for this time. I'm on the subcommittee at, I'm on the Board of Interact representing the county. I'm on the subcommittee of their capital campaign. We had a very interesting event. One of our members offered to host former board members in their home. to try to get them to contribute to the capital campaign and it was relatively successful. So we did that and if anybody would like spooky or not so spooky activities, there's lots of opportunities in our libraries for fall and Halloween type activities in our libraries.

3:34:25 – 3:35:35•Tara Waters

Well, thank you, Chair. Vice Chair Jackson and I had a chance to attend the Wake County Housing Authority September meeting and wanted to update everyone that they have a new chair, John Austin, and a new vice chair, Rose Cornelius, and are moving forward with a number of initiatives. There had been a hold on the foster youth to independence voucher as well as the family unification program voucher. Those are now able to be issued, and so that's good news for some of our vulnerable citizens, and they are also doing a number of outreach events. They recently held a home ownership event for indi

3:35:39 – 3:36:30•Safiyah Jackson

Yes, just want to share that it was a pleasure two weeks ago to participate in a number of our North Carolina Association of County Commissioners committee meetings to establish committee goals. And this week we will be working to advance those goals to the next level. There are meetings this week in CACC Legislative Goals Committee. We'll be meeting to receive all of the legislative priorities from the committees to determine what then advances to the board. So our commissioners across the state continue to work together and identify what matters to the vast majority of our counties so that w

3:36:31•Don Mial

Thank you, Commissioner Jackson. Other reports from commissioners? Commissioner Adamson.

3:36:40 – 3:37:34•Vickie Adamson

I want to say that Commissioner Waters, Commissioner Evans, Commissioner Milo and myself was able to attend the principal and vice principal of the year banquet. And I don't know how they decide who gets it, but I definitely don't want that job. It's really exciting to see such great talent in our schools. And I wanted to mention that a week from this Thursday, early voting opens for the midterms. There's early voting sites all over the county that'll be open for a little over two weeks. And my experience is in the first week, there's no lines. And the closer you get to the end of early voting

3:37:35•Don Mial

There'll be 18 of those sites if I'm... Anyone else? Yeah, Commissioner Stallings.

3:37:43 – 3:39:08•Cheryl Stallings

There's a number of Oktoberfest activities going on. And kudos to two Rotary Clubs in Western Wake, the Apex Sunrise Rotary Club and the McGregor Rotary Club hosted a big Oktoberfest event on Friday and Saturday at the Cocoa Booth Amphitheater in Cary. and the beneficiary of the funds was to Neighbor Up, so we had Neighbor Up as part of our housing presentation today, and they're just such a wonderful resource, so all the proceeds went to fund some of the work that Neighbor Up is doing, and secondly, I had an opportunity to participate on a panel discussion of our Wake Leadership Academy, and

3:39:10 – 3:41:21•Susan Evans

Yes, and I just also wanted to weigh in on the Assistant Principal of the Year and Principal of the Year event. It's always a great event, and so I wanted to actually celebrate Xavier McGrew from South Garner High, who was awarded Assistant Principal of the Year, and I've got to give a major shout-out to Roxanne Sykes of Dillard Drive Magnet Elementary as the winner of the Principal of the Year in District 4. Go, go. Go, Ms. Sykes. Also related to schools, I joined Vice Chair Jackson at the celebration for the opening of the new Hilltop Need More School this year, and others were there as well

3:41:21•Don Mial

Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Warders.

3:41:24 – 3:43:24•Tara Waters

Thank you, Chair Miles. I would like to acknowledge the wonderful time I had attending for the first time the Color of Education Summit, which is hosted by the Flood Group and got a chance to hear from legendary Dr. Dudley Flood and his wisdom. And there were hundreds of attendees, and he took the time to personally sign a book for all of us. And so he is quite the inspiration. I've got to stop complaining and kick it up a notch, seeing his resilience. And this is humility. And so it was great to see so many educators from all over the state and country there. And I also wanted to acknowledge

3:43:27 – 3:44:21•Safiyah Jackson

Yes. I just want to say publicly that the fire services community has a new champion. I had the pleasure of bringing the welcome to the latest graduates, 22 of the fire services academy. I mean, just very inspiring folks that... i had the pleasure of seeing meetings many of them at family night and then being there to shake their hand as they started their um journey um protecting our community so it was a pleasure and um roughing there we had a good time on the on the panel there but i just want to say publicly how inspired i was and how much i'm drawn into the world of fire services so any o

3:44:22•Don Mial

Okay, thank you. Mr. Askew, is there a need for a closed session today?

3:44:58•Susan Evans

I move that we go into closed session for the reasons stated by the attorney. I second.

3:45:03 – 3:45:46•Don Mial

We've got a motion by Commissioner Evans and a second by Commissioner Jackson. All in favor of going into closed session? Aye. All those opposed? We say no. Not hearing any. Motion carries. We are now in closed session. Okay, we are now back from our closed session, and we don't have anything to report. Is there a motion to adjourn? Is there a second? We have a motion by Commissioner Waters and a second by Commissioner Stallers. All in favor, please say aye. All those opposed? Not hearing any. Meeting is now adjourned.

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