Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Thank you for all the blessings that you have given us over a period of years that we've been here. Lord, be with all these people here tonight. Bless them. Make sure they make a safe trip home. Be with all the commissioners when we all make the best decisions we can tonight, Lord, and just guide all of us the best way we can. Lord, be with all of me. first responders in and out of this country, and Lord, just protect them. Hold your hand around everybody, and just have a good meeting here tonight. In Jesus' name we pray, amen. Amen.

We have a couple of additions, maybe three.

Okay, but again, what's it do? You have an explanation for removal of this VA?

And what is outstanding is two projects you're saying Dave?

Okay, but call it whatever you want to call it. We can still airbox that money this coming year, next year, and next year. But for these capital problems.

Okay, so my question is, on this right here, is this the way it stands right now under the utility fund line-up? it is reserved it's it's combined two utility projects on it right well you could move you could make a motion to transfer i mean i understand that's what y'all that's what somebody would want to do until this discussion right yeah so with that being said without you know holding up the meeting anymore i'm going to take this david and put it right here for a little bit more discussion okay more crowd And when we get to the resolution on number one, that's going to be our general bud

Okay. All right. Okay, with that being said, no proclamations. I need a motion for approval of the agenda. Motion to approve the agenda. Got a motion? Second. Got a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Okay. Okay. Public hearing. Okay. Public hearing.

Okay. I have no problem with that. Okay, Seth.

Board, any questions? I think this might be in your district, correct? Yeah, it is. It's not in my district. Okay, well, the board has no questions. I declare the public hearing open for resolution number 2026, no, I'm sorry, yeah, 2026R-36. Is there anybody here to speak for or against? Seeing none, I declare the public hearing closed. Board, the wishes of the board.

Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Thank you all. Thank you, Seth. Okay, Dave.

Anybody else? All right. Not seeing any, I'll declare the public hearing closed. We should move forward. Motion to approve Resolution 2026R48. There's a motion. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Okay, David.

okay at this time i'll open up the public hearings for resolution 2026 r-49 is there anybody here to speak for or against not seeing any i'll declare the public hearing closed wishes of the board motion to approve resolution number 2026 r-49 got a motion got a second all in favor say aye aye all opposed

Okay, before I open up the public hearing, David, board members, y'all have any questions for David at this point? I just got one, David. Out of balance in this budget, this cycle, David, has any reserves or contingencies been put forth to make this budget hold?

So over and beyond our revenue, our new monies and our revenues at the end of the year are

78 000. so your total number 78 000 what now but none of that 78 or any dollar is used for reoccurring costs is that correct

I understand the simplicity for the crowd. Is it used for reoccurring funds or not?

I don't think so, because you're taking $1 million and sending it to the capital projects fund for one-time capital projects, and you're only taking out of your reserves $78,000. Fair enough.

Okay. And I understand that there, but my point is that we've got that policy, what you said, of the 25% out there, 25 million, whatever it may be. But the whole thing in a nutshell, we've always tried to, just like you said a few minutes ago, use no reserves whatsoever for reoccurring costs. If at all possible, solely. That, I understand all these numbers and that's where, you know, I know I didn't keep up with you 100%. I'm sure nobody else in this room did not. But my point is, is that that dollar, is it a billion dollars we were propped up? to make this budget hold, or is it just the $78,000?

I understand that. But at $200-something million, you tell me that we could find $78,000 to make it clean?

I'm asking you to, because... I hate for me to not be able to vote for this budget because this is the same exact thing I scrutinized North Florida Water Utility Board. That's the reason why I rejected their budget. And I'll reject this budget for $78,000 if you're telling me we can't find $78,000. But I feel pretty sure we can find $78,000 for 200% of me.

That's just my opinion, board. That was the point I just wanted to make, just simple enough, you know, because that's the real number. And I mean, yeah, $78,000 at the end of the day, but...

That would be the easy way to do it, but out of all these departments, out of all the general operations, I think we can find $78,000.

And, David, I agree with you 100%. I just think, in my opinion, it's something that could be done throughout the year. Yes. To shore up the budget here at the end. Because that way you can always get away from this portion of what we set our goals for is not spending $620,000.

It can be done throughout the year. We can actually be clear about giving them direction as how what our intentions are. We're saying the same thing.

I mean, you know, you're solid. We've got a good plan for these catastrophes. Like Mr. Kirby said a hundred times over, you know, we put our community back to work, you know, in a hurry because we don't have to borrow money.

And I hope you're right. My math doesn't add up to that, but I hope I'm 100% wrong. You're 100% right, Rob. But my point is that, you know, all these conferences and stuff that we do, the gentleman said the other day about the death, there's all kinds of alternatives coming in that could show up exactly what Mr. Ford is saying. But then again, we don't know. So you've got to be conservative. That's why that policy is in place that you spoke about a while ago. That's what makes us strong.

we have to buy part of it and build the plant and not waste the seven million dollars on a band-aid and and we can definitely have it because mr ford i appreciate you saying that because you walk right in you know because it sounds like our thinking is on the same level here as far as you know how that's responsibly spending people's money and that's why this what was on here for this ba for 7.5 i would like for this board to agree tonight that that 7.5 here regardless what david was sharing with us it was important enough to make the move earlier today but let's earmark that seven leave that

And then that way, if Chad comes up and overrun, like you were saying earlier on the water lines, like Rocky was saying, Ellisville could fall apart tomorrow. I mean, there's a lot of unknowns and everybody sitting on this panel up here and then this audience knows utility costs is over and beyond.

Okay, David, I appreciate that. And so that would be my ask. I mean, if you need to get a, you know, just clean up that 70-something thousand, do what I'm asking here for the 77.5, if everybody's in agreement. So I'm only one person.

okay so with that being said joel is this proper time to do it now we're at the public after okay okay okay with that being said david i'll open up the public hearing at this time is uh is there anybody here to speak for or against resolution 2026 r-50

Okay. At this time, I'll declare the public hearing open. I'm sorry, I already have. Okay. Is there anybody else to speak for? I'm sorry. I wonder how Sue slipped up real. Anybody else? Not seeing none, I declare the public hearing closed. David, as you make your way up, I'm sure you're trying to do pretty hard to show that number.

OK. OK. Board, I would make the motion to accept the budget as presented with the adjustment of this, I think it was $78,000. 78,452. 78,452. And earmarking the $7.5 million and i don't have that account number in front of me david but can you help me on that uh just say you want an earmark for utility utilities okay and uh seven points for utility utilities only that's my motion second got a second any discussion all in favor say aye aye all opposed okay the next one is an even more difficult budget

this time i'll declare the public hearing open resolution number 2026 r-51 anybody here to speak for against not seeing any i'll declare the public hearing closed wishes of the board so moved got a motion and a second all in favor say aye aye all opposed david before you take your seat where in the budget is that

I don't think we have any PILT money in the Transportation Trust, do we?

Okay. And when I say the PILT, I still keep going back to the forestry thing we've talked about for years. Did we ever get any more information as to how that may or could possibly be spent? Because that's a fund that always just sits there, correct?

Hard to say. I was listening to the capital projects thing yesterday, and Kevin brought it up about this is kind of from island. I was just curious whether or not any of that could be absorbed there in some form or fashion.

That's a good idea. OK. All right. Thank you. OK, at this time, board, I'll seek a motion for approval of the consent agenda, but I've got a number two to be pulled. Mr. Loker's got input on it. Mr. Loker, make your way up real quick. And as he's coming up, if people in the crowd does not have this, it's the agri-liquid pavement, 19,608.21 is what he's referring to. No, just for discussion. Pulling it for discussion. I'm sorry. Thank you, Rob. Go ahead.

Thank you. And it always amazes me that we do the best we can. I guess you'd say we're trying to get better, all of us as a whole. But it totally amazes me, out of all the communities in this country, How Stu dislikes it so much. You ought to move. That's all I tell you. I didn't say your block ain't packed up. We'll see you later. I'll come help you pack. But at this point, I'll seek a motion to accept the consent agenda. After y'all quit laughing.

Second. Robbie Hollingsworth is seconding this motion. Thank you. Seconding right now.

Thank you for the clarity, Mr. Hollingsworth. All in favor say aye.

Did you hear? Did you get that clear? You got it right. Did you get that, Jay? Okay. All right. I'm going to be sure. All right.

all right so we've got to adopt right now okay mr foreman oh i'm sorry i'm sorry i was having so much fun i lost appreciate that okay seek a motion to adopt a consent agenda motion to adopt the consent agenda by robert wayne hollingsworth and a motion to second the adoption by kevin parnell

And, Board, if I may, during the agenda review the other day, we just had a simple discussion, you know, what we were talking about the riding club insurance issue. Not just earmarking this. From here on out, I just made the suggestion that, you know, let our insurance agent make sure that the county is covered to the fullest extent. And, you know, it probably are, but, you know, just that way it takes, it puts one more set of eyes on it that's not bombarded with budgets in one thing or another. So, Okay. Anybody have any discussion for Mr. I mean, any questions for Mr. Lance? He's a long talk

Tom, would you mind coming up and just getting me and him out?

And then the board, myself and Tom, I was talking to them prior to the meeting in the parking lot. Tom, if you would, cover about the cats. Some of us, our districts go into the city limits.

And I'd be honest with you. I'm not. I think our animal control is on the right path to doing it. I don't want to put any more on them, to be honest with you, but it is what it is. I kind of agree with that.

i'm she's the one everybody knows my voice um that we go into this interlocal agreement with a limit of 180 days to be renegotiated if it goes beyond that second got a motion in a second all in favor say aye aye all opposed thank tom okay uh joe okay we got that addition yes sir oh can we do i don't think it's gonna take this minute can we do the mail road update we got people here

Where's that at, Rob? Is that something you get? Go ahead, Kevin, if you don't mind. Fill us in on what your success or not.

okay so board uh just clarification well we can make sure uh i'll make the motion that we uh let mr kirby proceed and report back to us in two weeks and then uh is that fair enough right and then uh i think we're gonna we're on the right i think we're gonna get there you know i think so except for the probate we have to deal with that And that's, I'm personally not going to hold up for a probate.

But the one out is not, there's one holdout that is the probate. Is that what we're saying? No, there's just one holdout.

Okay, I'm not worried about the probate. So there is one person that doesn't want to do it. Okay.

So, okay, so I'll make that motion. Second. Okay, got a motion and a second. And all in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Okay.

If not, I'll seek a motion for approval. Motion to approve the library's annual plan of service.

Second. Got a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed.

The two applicants named in the packet, Mr. Holland, for assessing who they are.

Okay. All right. Seek a motion. I move that we appoint Roger Busker.

He's been on a bunch of. I mean, that one board for I don't know how many years, so.

Okay, I got a motion. Second. Got a second. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Okay.

Say that. You stopped me there for a minute, Dave.

So they're just changing their name, really, because they don't want confusion with Columbia MS, you know, in case. They're going to do the ongoing contract, and it's just their name's going to be Apex now. Is that what we're doing? Yeah, I think.

I'm sorry. Give me this thing, Rob. We do have one. The state's required it. I didn't. I mean, that's what the letter here says. You confused me when you said that.

i'll say it again hold on hold on approve the resolution 2026 r52 as amended second yeah motion and i say all in favor say aye aye all opposed i'm sure that probably did cause them confusion blaming them they're still the county or something but you know board you know as we go into seeing which way we're going to be able to go with ems in the future You know, this board or another board may have to make a decision one day to either have COPCNs or not and to maybe help a funding source to support this outside of an MSTU and other things available, you know.

Motion to approve. Paul's Medical Low Income Full Letter of Agreement.

Second. Got a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Call the motion.

approve the actual agreement as well so that it's very clear both the agreement and the resolution were adopted okay second motion motion to approve got motion second got a second and the discussion all in favor say aye aye and with that i would like to thank you okay uh this time i have open public comments anybody like to speak

While you're on the way home, give you something to think about on the way down there. I'll go on record. Me and Kevin Kirby give you $5,000 profit on it right now. We'll buy it from you today, $5,000. Which one? Kevin's going to pay $45,000. I'll pay the other $5,000.

I'm trying to bail you out. Well, you can feed them feral cats, but you wouldn't do it.

You ain't going to die. We'll all be dead before you die. Well, we'll all be dead before you are.

I don't have anything. I'm glad it's progressing.

i don't want to say they can't keep up but flat by the words they can't keep up because grass is growing like crazy and we've added more and more things to their agenda but we haven't added them the tools they need to better suit those agendas yeah so um just something we need to look at and we're getting more more buildings that need mowing and we're just adding it to the guys that are mowing already i'll tell y'all something you need our constituents need to know too they worry about lake jeffrey road and all those roads are by that seat place that's all ryegrass growing it

David, I know we've been budgeting, but where are we going towards this company, if you want to say that, to come and do an EMS evaluation? What are we going to call that?

We've got to figure out something to give some access if we have to rotate these fields or something to give our citizens and their kids access to this.

Are people signing up for Babe Ruth? It blows my mind people weren't signing up.

You know, back when I coached years ago, you know, at that time we had a mutual agreement with the schools. because they maintain only and very few when they're playing ball.

well we do have a little program down at mason city that the community center people let people go down there and practice you know when they when they when they got time and so that that helps out in mason city so i don't know i know everybody can't practice in mason city so but it would be nice if we could get someone where they could practice because i can get i mean i hear it all the time yeah what can we go practice it might be something we kind of study on let's go see what we can get doing but other than that ems is still going and we got we got to do what y'all what you suggested going

Thursday, Friday had been some time in Tallahassee with the fat consortium. Consortium is really good shape. Bringing on 20 county and a couple of 1 other, I think you'll Chris now or 1 of them. I can't remember, but things are moving along real well and. Any of the things reach out to. they they've got a program over there they came over here and assisted clint and his team back when we had a couple ada issues i think down at fort white and so uh it seems like every time i go over there they have more and more programs available to us i could have a round table here pretty quick i think next

That's just a beginning start. Hopefully the community center will keep on going. And one other thing, Kevin, y'all's, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, but as far as on the trash issue, y'all going to have a public announcement tomorrow? Okay. Excuse me?

Because unfortunately, I got two calls today about that posting, and I'm agreeing. I've got to agree with what I got.

None of what you're telling me, I recall. But y'all covered that more and we greatly appreciate it. I think that one, I think she's about 3'9", and she went from one side to the other, and she ain't done yet. You better ask that guy.

That needs to be a big, major push if you ain't never done one before. Yeah, for sure, because that's a big deal. Yeah, that's a big deal.

I just want everybody to know I'm not going to be at the next meeting because we're done with the budget and all because I'm going on a vacation for the first time. I don't even know how to fly anymore. You've got to sign in and get paperwork, and then you just sign in online, so I can't do it. But anyhow, I just want you all to know I'm not going to be here October 1st. Robbie Hollingworth. I'm finally going on a vacation.

But you're going to be flying with somebody. You're not flying, correct?

I just want to make sure in case we just want to cover up.

If I could have flown by myself, what it costs to fly, I would have done it. I'd have drove a truck.

I don't worry about that. Diesel's on that number green.