Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Thank you. Can everyone stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? Commissioner Gomez, would you like to lead us in, please? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice. Thank you. Before we begin, I'd like to remind my fellow commissioners to turn off your microphones when speaking and on when you are. And also, while speaking, make sure you're four inches away from the microphone. Thank you. And truly also, when speaking tonight, please make sure that bike's close to you, within fou

Thank you. Moving on to public comments on non-agenda or non-public hearing items. Secretary, does anyone wish to speak?

Thank you. Okay. Calypso, can I have you speak for three minutes, please? Gail, there you go. I'm sorry. And thank you for bicycling in. I saw it.

Thank you. Secretary, we don't have any TVs here or the clock. Thank you. There you go. Do we have any other speakers online or in person?

Moving on to the consent calendar. Is there a motion to approve item A, minutes from August 24th meeting and from adjourned regular meeting on August 31st? And B, excused absences?

Second. I was wondering if we could discuss briefly the main place report. But I would go with the first A and B.

Yes, I'm looking for A and B. We'll talk about C right afterwards. So right now it's A and B is what we're voting on.

I didn't notice until after I read A and B. So I say let's vote on A and B and then we'll do C separate.

I withdraw my request and just go with the first motion, which was to approve A, B, and C. And it was seconded.

Okay. So I guess the motion's been changed to include C with A and B.

Commissioner Guzman made the motion. I second the motion.

So it's been first and second. We're ready to vote.

Thank you. That concludes the consent calendar items. We are now moving on to the public hearing. I will now review the process for the public hearing so that everyone knows what to expect. Staff will provide a presentation and answer questions from the Commission. The public hearing will be opened. The applicant will be given the opportunity to speak, limited to 15 minutes. Members of the public will be given the opportunity to comment, limited to three minutes. The applicant will be given the opportunity to respond to comments made by the public. limited to five minutes the public hearing wi

Thank you. Does the Commission have any comments or questions for staff? Commissioner Guzman and I'll come this way.

Thank you, Chair Ramos. This is a question for staff. In terms of the four moderate income units, how is that going towards fulfilling ARENA requirement? How far along are we towards fulfilling ARENA requirement in that category?

Thank you. I don't have any further questions at this point.

Thank you, Commissioner Guzman. Commissioner Lue.

Yeah, I had a question. Could you go back to the slide of the existing property?

No, no, no, the existing property as is, yeah. So this is going to be this street, as we develop the street. My question is, we just approved a project across the street with a landscape This property has a lot of mature trees, which provide shade, which will help condominiums. Are we making any effort to save some of the mature trees, or are we just going to flatten them? My concern is, and here's my concern, when we do landscape pallets for busy streets, take, for instance, the entry from MacArthur off the 55. And you look across the street, Zesa's now good. The trees are much bigger. The co

Thank you, Commissioner Leal. Do we have any? Go ahead, Commissioner.

Okay. I thought we have seen this before, because one of the attractiveness of the program is that it's for sale. And in the past, Commissioner Leo has brought up the fact that we have a lot of rental units, but we have very few opportunities for inter-generation building wealth, particularly for affordable housing. And one attractiveness of this project is that it provides us with an opportunity for it. And I thought we did discuss this before because of the affordable housing unit. And that the fact there's three-story townhomes Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Wu. Commissioner Pham.

You know, on the fencing and landscaping plan, it indicates that the public accessible common space, it's fenced in and the rendering shows it like a six foot fence. The legend says that it's going to be publicly accessible from, I think, in the morning to dusk. Other projects we've seen, even in the similar vicinity, the open space were pretty much open. There wasn't a particular fencing and limited access. So I'm wondering why we arrived at that decision to fence it in.

So it does comply with our development code standards to be able to fence in publicly accessible space?

And then typically Are there signage that would indicate to the public that because you know, obviously, visually, if you're gonna walk past this project, and you see a six foot fence, you would assume that this is private, open space, even if there is an egg gate, you would assume is a, you know, tenant accessible gate only. So would there be signage that indicate that this is publicly accessible space from x time, you know, dawn to dusk?

Yeah, I mean, I don't particularly have an opinion on the matter at the moment. But to me, it seems to defeat the purpose of providing openly accessible space. If it doesn't visually indicate that it's publicly accessible. Granted, I understand that, you know, we have to balance that with the actual on the ground issues of, you know, obviously, people taking advantage of open space for other usage other than what was intended for. But I think that's something we should consider. And then this might not pertain to the actual site plan, but it could be on the site plan. The floor plan itself sho

Yeah, I acknowledge that. To me, this doesn't seem ideal, but obviously it's the choice of the applicant. And then one last thing. This is also a gated project, or at least partially gated. Is there a reason why the gate is located deeper into the site? I think our minimum is 40 feet for a pedestrian gate. Is there a reason why it's... kind of deeper into the into the lot rather than potentially you know enclosing half of the public publicly accessible parking stalls yeah if I could clarify Commissioner Pham are you you so you're talking about the gate but are you asking about why it's not clo

And I'm assuming the applicant has proposed a parking management plan for just to make sure those kind of unsecure parking stalls wouldn't be used by other properties. Because I'm sure it's all meant for the tenants, or sorry, all meant for the property owners, right?

Other than that, I do agree with Commissioner Leo. From the landscape plan and you know the proposed trees looks like they were right directly on top of the location of the existing location, so I was assuming they were keeping that the trees. But if they're not there are a few projects of notice. What comes to mind is the project on harbor that is kind of at the border of Santa Santa and found valley. Where the. The trees were new, but I think they were chosen specifically so that they had a larger canopy, as well as they provide screening for the balconies on the second and third floor. I th

Thank you, Commissioner Fenn. Vice Chair Benninger.

Right now, the rain of numbers, is that January 1st to December 31st or June 30th to July 1st?

okay so it is is uh january to december basically basically that's correct okay great um one issue a couple issues one i'm glad that uh commissioner fan brought up the uh the gate i actually like the location i'm glad we're not involving fourth street in entrance and egress but it also tells me is is this a developer planning to developed a lot next to this is that why it says future Future use next to the gate area down there in the small print.

similar type of connectivity would be required to allow that breaking up of the large blocks and to allow pedestrian access through okay so those 18 parking spaces on that street are not going to be signed or that entrance roadway because it isn't cut off by public everybody gives public parking for anyone correct those would serve as the guest spaces for the development okay but if there's no blocking them off and the develops next to them It could be used by anyone, not just the development.

Okay. Also, on the numbers we saw for parking, and I get a little confused just looking at two and a half cars, each one of these units have a two-car garage attached to it. So I don't know where that half a car comes up, especially on the four-bedroom units. How is the half a car developed?

Because also one sub 1.8 for the less than four for bedroom also. Really what we have is we have 80 80 parking spaces in the garages and 18 outside. That's basically what the parking spaces are for this project, correct?

I counted 18, but my math was wrong. Okay. One question has been brought up that we had someone talk to us a couple years ago about is trash collection and getting a trash truck around this facility. Where are the trash pickups in this project?

And they're going to be required to store them on site? Okay. All right. That's the question. That's the question I have right now. Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair Benninger. I also have a few questions and I believe they will be for any staff from CDA that may be present unless planning would like to answer. So one of my questions is how was the affordable level of moderate income decided? Yes, thank you for coming up. My question is how was affordability level of moderate income? So 80% AMI decided for the four affordable housing units that will be available for sale?

Thank you. And then my second question is, can the city's existing downpayment assistance program be utilized to purchase one of these units? So the program as is now and the development as is now?

And then thank you for the clarification that the program cannot be used to purchase any of the four affordable units, but could the program be used to purchase one of the market rate 36 units? Yes.

No, no, thank you. So the program as is right now would help some, could help somebody purchase one of the market rate units? Okay. Thank you. And those are my questions for you. Thank you. On housing. And then a question for staff. So I know there's been some conversation on the publicly accessible open space and just wondering what that open space includes as of now. Is it just that are open green space like a... grassy area maybe?

Thank you. And then just based off the comments I heard, not specific to this project, but I am wondering how we ensure that any publicly accessible open space in any of these developments that we approved. How do we ensure that it is visible that it is open space? So I know staff said that we have approved several projects and we haven't required any signage or anything else that would indicate it's publicly accessible open space. So obviously we voted on that and any of us could have brought it up, but it is a bit of a concern to me in a city that is so park poor that while we're adding a pu

Thank you. Do any commissioners have questions for the applicant? I'll begin at the end with Commissioner Guzman and come back this way.

Thank you, Chair Ramos. There's a resident accessible common space between buildings five and four. What do you propose to put in there for the residents? I know that there's balconies, but I'm sure, you know.

City Council Chambers, Now, in terms of the parking management plan, and I know at least to the Commissioners here raised it the guests proposed guest parking I, how do you I know you. City Council Chambers, said that the ho a fees will probably be used to enforce that parking but what other mechanisms, do you think that you could use in terms of guests. Just to know who is an overnight guest, for example.

Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Guzman. Commissioner Leal.

So I'm going to leave this up to staff and the applicant, not me. We started to approve stuff on the other side of the street. If we approve this project tonight, let's be consistent. So the canopy looks like the way you want the canopy to look like because we're building the project. I wasn't here when we approved the project at 4th and Cabrillo. Let's make the canopy work for the residents who live there, for the developers, so the street's walkable. Remember, these people, their main park is Cabrillo Park, right? And then they can access the tennis courts a little further up Cabrillo. We're

Common themes down the main street so that when you drive the street or you walk the street, there's enough of a canopy for people to walk, but also that when you drive it, It looks similar.

As soon as you cross over the 5, there's big trees on that side. You guys figure out what the trees we used on the other projects. Just make it look so that it works for everybody that lives there. It looks like the neighborhood. We're creating a new neighborhood. Let's create a new neighborhood with similar trees so that it works for the for the owners that buy the homes there. That's all, I'll leave it up to you guys.

Thank you, Commissioner Leo. Commissioner Wood.

How many years have you owned this property again?

And since you have your design team here, I'm kind of curious about 30 years from now, or 20 years from now, let's say 20 years, as the children grow up, as the pits make their way through the hallways and stuff, And as we have walkability in the area, I'm wondering what is the maintenance plan, what kind of materials are you using on the exterior of your painting and on the apartment to prevent mold on the inside in the kitchen and showers and all that? Will it still look like that in 10, 15, 20 years? Can you just help us out?

if you never own a home or in a townhome, lots of things can happen because it's a big community that has to work together. Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Wu. Commissioner Pham?

No, I think you've answered all of my concerns and my questions. I do like the material choice and the architecture. It's very interesting. Yeah, we're excited about it. I appreciate it. Thank you.

I do like you designed it on the first floor. It looks like a little storage area. I assume it's for bikes and wagons and all that good stuff and keep it out of the garage. Yeah, that's nice. Nice to include it. Also, Ali, and you may not be able to answer this, but I've had the unfortunate pleasure of replacing a four ton unit in my house and a two ton unit in my condo. And I'm amazed how quiet they are right now to answer your question, the compressors. And that's a good question. Do you have an idea what decimal levels these compressors are?

I'm only smiling because I had to run a crane in order to get the compressor off the roof. Sorry, I don't know exactly what you're talking about. Well, actually, the fun part was keeping the parking space open so I could get the crane in there. That's all my questions. Thank you.

Thank you. So one, I wanted to start off by saying thank you for including four-bedroom units. I know that we don't often see new developments include four-bedroom units, and especially when they're affordable, the number of bedrooms really matters because that will determine whether or not a large family can qualify to live there. So thank you for including them. I know it's one unit, and I typically will ask staff, how was the unit breakdown decided? I know it's a formula, so I do wish there were more that were affordable, and I hope that as you consider new affordable housing developments,

Thank you. Does the commission have any last, well, do I need to close the public hearing before we go to? Oh, you're current.

Thank you. Sorry, I had moved my... Okay, yes, thank you. I think it's a little bit out of order here. But I'll now take any written communication. Oh, recording circuit, do we have any written communication or is there a member of the public that would like to comment on this item?

Thank you. Our speaker in person has come a few times. So Gay Olivos, would you like to come forward?

Thank you. Recording Secretary, are there any members of the public online who would like to comment on this item?

Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Is that the last of the online questions?

Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. Public testimony portion of the public hearing is now closed. Is there approval? Is there a motion on this matter?

Yeah. Carl. Let me take a crack at it. Let me make a motion to adopt a resolution approving site plan review number 2026-0004 as conditioned, as well as adopt a resolution approving vesting track map 2026-0009 as conditioned, and adopt a resolution approving one incentive concession or reduction in development standards to be memorialized in the density bonus agreement number 2026-005 as condition and a condition for the public signage and uh for the open space that's the only additional i think and then you staff you guys figure out the trees i second you second so motion by commissioner leo

Okay. I have a motion with a first and a second. Commissioner Liu made a motion, and Commissioner Wu has seconded. Any discussion?

Thank you. Congratulations. We're now moving on to item two. This is the time and place for general plan amendment number 2026, APPLICATION NUMBER 2026-03, TRACK MAP NUMBER 2025-04, AND DENSITY BONUS AGREEMENT NUMBER 2025-04 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4320 WEST FIRST STREET AND 201 SOUTH MAIN MOUNTAIN VIEW STREET, LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL C-2 AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL M-1 ZONING DISTRICTS. Before we begin, do any commissioners have anything they wish to disclose with regard to this item? Great. Seeing as there are no disclosures, the case planner, Nancy Tran, will provide a brief

Thank you. Do any commissioners have questions for staff? I'll begin with Commissioner Wu.

Thank you for doing your homework and bringing back some of the past decisions that were made and laws and all that, pertaining infill housing and inclusionary zoning housing and affordable housing, a whole cohort. It's refreshing to me since 40 years ago, SANO pushed for those kinds of issue and didn't know what it would look like. And I guess that's what it looks like when you include all those things in there that we have today that we didn't have back then. And it's refreshing to see how that manifests itself in terms of this project. Having said that, There are some things that I guess it

Thank you, Commissioner Wu. Commissioner Pham?

Nancy, can you explain for me, you know, We just saw another project that didn't propose trash enclosures, but this project does. Are there distinctions we need to be aware of why certain developments will provide trash enclosures while other developments have trash cans in the garage and then pull it out on trash days?

So generally, for a project like this, we would see trash enclosures? And then, you know, The units that are facing First Street, they seem to be elevated a couple of feet off of the right of way. Is that a development standard or is it just existing site conditions? That's the reason why, you know, there's like a plaza that's kind of raised up a couple of feet from the existing sidewalk.

In general, I think that's a better approach, the way the applicant is proposing the elevated stoop, just because it's, you know, all the Out front entry is facing the street. It's great for package. Amazon can drop off the package. It's a slightly kind of recessed back. So obviously people are walking down the street. They're not going to grab someone's package. So in general, I think all the other developments we've seen does have an elevated stoop, which I think in general is ideal. Other than that, I'm very glad to see a development in this area of First Street. It's been kind of run down

Okay, so the neighboring residents didn't have any concerns?

Great. And then one other point, I think obviously we don't want to reference other projects, but for this project in general, I do like the approach. I'm not sure if it's input from planning or input from the design team, but the balconies being, for the most part, enclosed with drainage, kind of a little downspout, I think that approach for kind of these type of homes or these types of projects makes sense. because it provides a certain level of privacy especially for units facing the street as well as in the future I think having them slightly enclosed it makes a forbearance maintenance bec

Thank you, Commissioner Pham. Commissioner Liu.

Nancy, do you have an aerial picture of the site and the properties around it? Do you happen to have one of those? I was looking at one. I was trying to figure out how this all connects because we've got this round cylinder. Is that a water? I assume that's water storage. I don't know what that is. Maybe you don't. Yeah, that helps. That one that you just had. So to the right on this picture, those are condominiums as well?

It's apartment complexes. And the green space, is that open to the public or is it fenced in?

Yeah, where the red dotted line is, you see the green, the corner green space at the top?

It's open space, okay. And then behind, we have what apartment complex is? Around the, what is that, is it a water store? I don't even know what it is. The round cylinder thing, what is that, water? Okay, and then behind, down below, are those condos, apartments? Apartments. Okay, and then we have the parking lot on the right, on the left-hand side is going to be open, going to be empty for now, right? Correct. And then what are those single-family homes? That's a commercial, that's like a strip mall there on the corner of New Hope and First?

Car wash, okay. What I'm trying to do as I deal with the other ones is how do we piece it together so that these people feel like, okay, I'm buying a place as part of a location, but then they see, oh, Now you said the street's going to get paved, Mountain View, so they'll be very happy about that. There'll be additional parking. Question is, this next piece, I assume, currently zoned, what, industrial or commercial or something like that? So you have to assume that that will flip into, once these people, if they get approved, that will flip into more housing, right? To finish the square.

Yeah, on the other side of the mountain, I mean, if you think about it from our standpoint, right, you're talking about adding units here, there's apartments here, apartments here, New Hope is a busy street. We will assume, we can make the hypotheses that that will flip, a residential or something else, unless it's not doable.

It's city-owned, so who knows what it could be? It could be a park for all we know. Who knows? Because it's not taxable property now. Okay. I like where this is going, because as Commissioner Fenn said, we're going to start to clean up this little pocket here. So I think it's headed in the right direction. I was just wondering, you know, when you think about landscaping, This could be the end, right? We have other water storage where we have big trees in the water storage area. There's one down Alton and Bear. The trees, the pine needles blow into the houses. Hopefully that's not going to happ

Thank you, Commissioner Leo. Commissioner Guzman.

I only have a question regarding the three very low units, which are at 30% to 50% AMI. Is that the minimum that needs to be provided under the state density and the other statutory provisions.

It's 5%. Okay. It just seems to me it's a lot lower or a lot more on this project. Not that we're supposed to compare projects, but that was my main question.

City Council Chambers, Thank you. City Council Chambers, I had another question regarding the trash, I know that I there's trash enclosures I can't really tell from the site map where those are and how. How. City Council Chambers, convenient or. Where the trash is going to come in to pick up all these all the trash from these enclosures, so if you can bring it up I it i'm having a really hard time with this site plan actually.

and and staff made sure that a trash truck can drive through here okay and in terms of the parking does mountain view dead end before we get to the property line where the water facility is is that right it goes straight into the uh so it's a it's a dead end street yes okay all right um yeah no no further questions at this time

Thank you, Commissioner Guzman. Vice Chair Benninger.

Could you please put up again the zoning? Good. Looks like a lot of time was spent on the environmental issue or review. And I don't understand what ISMND stands for, but I can relate to phase one, phase two of environmental standards or reviews that I had to do. In a phase one, basically, you look over the past information and what's been there, any history of any spills, any contamination. If there was some, you could go to phase two, which means you actually end up having to drill to test the soil. This is an M1 area, means it was industrial. Do we know what kind of M1 industrial was on tha

Okay, so we had no manufacturing per se. Okay. In their environmental review, what did they look at then?

And I guess let me ask the question, is that done by an outside consultant?

Okay. And they reported their findings, and we've seen those findings? Yes. All right. One other term I didn't understand. When we talked about calculating number of parking spaces, you used the terminology of the FAR. Could you explain to me what that is?

Thank you, Vice Chair Benninger. I also have a few questions. So we can go to the slide that on the bottom would say slide 56. Thank you. So the second point mentions that in connection with the requested general plan amendment, And consistent with the general plan implement implementation measure the applicant will be provided providing an 80,750 dollar Community benefit payment. And and in the public are payment of approximately $100,000 so is that required because they're seeking a general plan amendment that's correct and how were the amounts determined.

Okay, so to the community benefit payment calculation, there is no internal formula that the city uses up until now, correct?

Okay, and then when looking at the related Bristol project, and I imagine the one was the South Coast Village project, I know that for those, the council chose to create ad hoc committees and they then internally determined what amount they wanted to collect. So just in general, not specific to this project, but in general, I am concerned about the fact that there is no specific formula being used to calculate the community benefit. payment amount and that it's just going off some past projects that I think have yeah just with the ad hoc committees things we saw different versions or had we ar

Okay. Thank you. And then, um, also I didn't write down the slide number, but one of the point, one of the, one of the points on one of the slides shared that the one annual band of mission Indians, the Hatchiman nation, um, we're requesting that, or where, We're not comfortable with the city's interpretation that this project, the site that it sits on is outside their territory. And you shared that the city responded and that that response is available online. Can you please share what the city responded?

Okay, so I think what the site also mentioned is that what they were requesting was the city, and I don't know if you can go to the slide. I didn't get down the number, sorry. But I think what I wrote, so request consideration of the site's cultural resources and tribal monitoring. So what would that look like?

Okay, so is with the Huayna New Band of Mission Indians, Ahchama Nation, the Lardy's are they basically are is this as we look at this project is the city then doing with the city consider the site's cultural resources in tribal monitoring as they may have wanted yes there will be okay so there's no concern so okay so then just to make sure the cultural resources are being considered and the site will be monitored yes Okay, thank you. And then, yeah, those are all my questions for staff at this time. I do have some questions for the applicant. Thank you. With that, the public testimony portion

Thank you. Does the Commission have any questions for the applicant? No, no questions from any on the Commission? Okay. I believe I did have at least one question. Well, one, I want to start off by sharing with you the same way I did with the last applicant. Thank you for adding three and four bedroom units at the affordable rate. Thank you for also providing them at a lower AMI. I know how difficult it can be for families to qualify for any unit, especially if they're a larger family. So thank you for doing that. And then just curious about how you decided the AMI level and how you decided to

Thank you. Well, with that, if there are no additional questions for the applicant, I think we're okay for now. Thank you. Recording Secretary, have we received any written communication, or is there a member of the public that would like to comment on this item?

Thank you. Does anybody on the commission have any... Well, with that, the public testimony portion of the public hearing is now closed. Before we take any motions, does anybody on the commission have any final questions? Go ahead, Commissioner Leo. For staff.

Yeah, it's for staff. And so it's a general question because we'll get more of these projects. Are we able to... Are we able to approve permit parking on the street? And I'll use Mountain View as an example. Are we allowed to approve permit parking on that half of the street of Mountain View so that we have questions about how much parking they get, but is there a way when we approve these projects to give them that portion of the street permit parking for the people that live in the complex. Solves two problems. One is some of us may not think there's enough parking. The second thing is then

Thank you. Are there any other questions for staff from the Commission? Vice Chair Benninger.

I'm going to answer kind of my own question, but we just approved rezoning the last meeting we had, and in there was changes for developments like this that are next to industrial processes to ensure a balcony is not facing towards the manufacturing, make sure there's a court area in front. So I'm going to ask my own question saying that really isn't in effect until it's approved, correct?

Thank you. And I have one question to staff. So that community benefit payment, exactly what happens with it?

Okay. It doesn't have any, it doesn't go to a specific, anywhere specifically allocated for community benefits of some sort.

Could we put a recommendation to designated for that neighborhood to be using that money?

be geographically used where that project took so uh in our process we don't have a way of doing it with the motion of approving the project that's right because i i could remember bob poussevard you know the famous guy for whenever it is a development he tried to get a community center out of it and use that community benefit dollars to like channel into community centers so we don't do that huh

Yeah, that was a method that the former county planner used to get community centers built. But I'm just curious. Thank you.

Thank you. With that, do we have a motion on this matter? Commissioner Leo.

All right, I'll take another crack at it. Let's see if we can do this. I'd like to make a motion that we adopt a resolution approving a concession or reduction in development standards as memorialized in Density Bonus Agreement Number 2025-04 as condition and recommend that the City Council adopt a mitigated negative deck and mitigation monitoring and reporting program environmental review number 2025-47, a resolution approving general plan amendment number 2026-01, an ordinance approving amendment application number 2026-03 to establish a specific development number 98, and a resolution appro

Thank you. We have a motion from Commissioner Leo with a second from Vice Chair Benninger. Secretary, can you please call for a roll call vote?

Thank you. Congratulations. Now is the time for item number three. This is the time and place for general plan amendment number 2024-01 for the properties located at 915, 921, and 925 North Flower Street and 841, 842, 843, 848, and 852 North Garnsey Street located within the professional zoning district. Before we begin, do any commissioners have anything they wish to disclose with regard to this item? Great. Seeing as there are no disclosures, the case planner, Jack Cartlidge, will provide a brief presentation.

Thank you. Does the Commission have any comments or questions for staff? Vice Chair Benninger.

Washington Square is pushing for a park in their neighborhood. This is not the park they're talking about, correct?

So then how far is this site away from what's being proposed for Washington Square?

Is there a neighborhood associated with this park? In the tribal consultation, what happens with that?

In my life, I've been involved with one of those in which we actually did a soil x-ray of the soil to make sure it wasn't a burial ground. And we did discover some bones that turned out to be horses. Thank goodness. But I don't know if we have any burial sites in the city we need to be sensitive to.

Thank you. I'll comment on this item. So one, I'm really happy to see this before us. I grew up in the Willard neighborhood. I grew up directly across the street. And this has been a vacant site for a very long time. willard neighborhood does not have any park uh my literal playground was city hall because we didn't have a park so this is where i would come play here and in plaza of the flag so i'm really excited about this i want to thank all of the willard residents i have advocated for this for a very long time i think council member hernandez for also getting this here and yeah i'm just re

Can I ask you a question? First of all, I'm very glad this item's been forced, but like the only park in Willard is really the school playground. And That needs to be used. And I don't know if we have a joint use agreement with the school district to use it, because that is the only park space in the Willard neighborhood. And so to me, giving them another park, another place, maybe it will relieve some congestion at the school, probably not due to the number of units around it. But it's a very good use of a piece of property that's been just kind of empty for a long time. But I was just wonder

school playground so i'm i'm fine thank you thank you commissioner leo and that park is open at least when i've gone in the afternoon uh and it is very full commissioner guzman uh i too am very happy to see this park here at willard it is actually across the street from washington square uh commissioner benninger um and i i agree with uh chair ramos that just having that crosswalk there is going to make it so much accessible to everybody around that park and i'm really excited to see it i've been driving down flower for a while now trying to figure out what was going to go on there i'm glad it

Just because we've talked about other projects and then now we're talking about park, I think it would be interesting, you know, we killed two birds with one stone for future projects. If we were to acquire or we have vacant lots, if we look into potentially maybe a parking structure with a park on top, it will help alleviate parking demands as well as there's still a park on top of a parking structure. You know, obviously we have We're not shy about height in the city, in different areas of the city. You know, two level of parking plus a park on top would kind of serve dual purpose or dual de

Thank you. Without any other questions or comments, I'm happy to make the motion to approve this matter as recommended. Is there any second? Oh, sorry. I got very ahead of myself. Recording Secretary, have we received any written communication, or is there a member of the public that would like to comment on this item? I see we have one member coming up. You can fill it out then. Would you like to speak?

Okay, thank you. Sorry, y'all. The public testimony portion of the public hearing is now open. Recording Secretary, have we received any written communication, or is there a member of the public that would like to comment on this item?

Thank you with that the public testimony portion of the public hearing is now closed and I would like to make a motion to approve this matter as recommended there a second.

We'll have a second from commissioner goes mine secretary can you please call for a roll call vote.

Thank you. That concludes the business calendar. Moving on to staff comments.

Thank you. Does the Commission have any closing comments or questions for staff?

City Council Chambers, So tonight we there were two things that kind of popped up that I, I want to. City Council Chambers, follow up with staff or ask questions of staff, the first one was the Community benefit payment, and I know. City Council Chambers, That we have the ability to suggest to the City Council or recommend when and how what's the time and place for that, because I really do think there should be some standards. involved in how that money is used, but I'm not familiar with when is the right time and place for that.

Thank you. The second question I had was regarding the public open space and City Council Chambers, The perspective possibility, I know we raised it tonight earlier earlier tonight sorry about maybe having some standards for those so that the public does know that it's public space um that's something that I do encourage staff to consider. City Council Chambers, Adopting at some point, because you know that does when if a tree falls in the forest, no one hears that right it's one of those scenarios if nobody knows it's public space, then. City Council Chambers, it's not an effective use of tha

For Commissioner Guzman, when the related project came through, I was able to successfully, with the help of this group, put on the attachment to the approval that we look at an oversight committee for the $2 million that was going to come in that area so the money could be spent in that area. Council turned that down flatly, which is their right. So I answer your question, when's the right time? Anytime's the right time, and we could add it to Our recommendation to council, if they so choose on it. What I want to comment is a couple of things. One, Saturday I was kind of a little surprised. I

Thank you. Are there any other comments or questions for staff from the commission? Great. With that, I'll make a few questions. So one, thank you, Commissioner Guzman, for bringing up the signage for publicly accessible open space. So I know that that is something that we require moving forward. And I would like to ask staff that moving forward that is already included in some way. I would also like to ask staff that some sort of policy be created to ensure that signage is always provided. And would also like to see that be provided for all the projects we've already approved. China have been