City Council - Regular Meeting

Ladies and gentlemen, we're about ready to get started with our 5 o'clock City Council workshop meeting. If you would join me with Pledge of Allegiance. with liberty and justice for all. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to offer an opening prayer? Anyone? Yes. Welcome. Please. Thank you.

Mandy, do we have anyone signed up to speak?

Thank you. Mr. Chair, before we accept public comments, I've got a question. And Ryan, this would really be a question of you. Is it legally required when people come up to the podium to say anything for them to give their name and address?

Okay, gotcha. The reason I'm bringing this up is a person that I went to see on Saturday that brought up an issue at the podium here in front of us. was concerned about her safety. This person gave their name and address up here. And then somebody on Facebook was bullying her on Facebook. And this person is now naturally concerned that her name and her address is all out there. And with the nutcases that we have running around in this day and age, she has a right to be concerned. If somebody wants to go on Facebook and bully anybody, naturally they can do it. But again, I was looking to see if

Okay. Thank you, Tim. We'll move on to item number one, public comment. We have no one signed up prior to the beginning of the meeting. If you would like to speak at this point in time, you may do so. Is there anyone who would like to address the council before we get started?

Wait a minute, Danny. Does council have any objection?

I think that's a great idea, personally, not saying the address unless there's a reason why we need it. Maybe say Dunellan resident or non-resident, that would be about the only, if we have big crowds. But other than that, I'm good to go.

Tim, you're pretty clear on your point. Yes, sir. Mandy, do we have to take actions in a council meeting to change this policy?

Would that be the recommendation of legal counsel?

Okay, thank you. And I think that pretty well makes it clear to everyone. The council's in agreement to it. The city clerk says it won't be a problem. The attorney says, of course, we're in a workshop phase now. We're not in a regular council meeting, so there will be no voting taking place tonight anyway. So, with council's... Approval, we will not require anything more than maybe your name. That would be fine. Danny, if you'd like to start. You already covered my name. I got your name down.

Like last year, we paid half of the expenses. Am I not correct?

but you know just please partner with us you know we don't necessarily want the city to do it all for us but just make it easier and partner with us before we would of course say yes or no to that a proposed budget would be really a great thing to have and again the amount that we've already spent We've all shared. That would be amazing. So if you could come back to us with that. I would entertain looking at it with information.

It's still the best way to inform everyone.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Rex, do you have anything? Tim, do you have a comment? No, sir.

Thank you. Thank you, Shane. I'll make a comment on this. When the state has responsibility for it, we're going to contact the state and we're going to ask them the same question. You requested to take charge of this, and you have gained responsibility for it, and it has been recorded. There was an email sent to me, and that email was forwarded to our city staff, and I assure you that that question is being asked. That email was sent immediately just as soon as I received it. So there's a way to address the state on this issue. And we are doing that. But I understand your point that it is a re

Mr. Mayor, if I'm not mistaken, I know Chad was going to ask, weren't you going to ask Tim to bring that up at the TPO meeting that you had?

Well, all I know is that When I was on TPO back in the day, Marion County had an issue with FDOT and the medians and even at the interstate exchanges and such and so forth. And I thought that's why you were going to talk to Tim. and find out about if he could bring the subject up at the next TPO meeting. Because once we brought that subject up about the medians not being cared for in Marion County, it was amazing how fast medians were taken care of. So I think it's something that needs to be brought up, even if they have a schedule with OASIS.

Okay. So here's where we're at with this. The next TPO meeting... If something's not resolved, I don't have to wait until a TPO meeting. I can get a hold of FDOT. I know exactly where to get a hold of them. Now, if there is nothing, I will definitely bring it out in public. And something, like you said, they're very reactive. They get on it right away. We're not there yet. Chad has reached out to FDOT. You heard what he just said there. The other thing that I think is going on that has not been vocalized is because I noticed on the, you know, Oasis also does the median or the side right-of-way

Okay. You don't see those growing up. So here's what I believe happened. It's a transition. Fluke, that kind of stuff happens. And so I look at it as a transition fluke. I think that they're saying, oh, the rain's got us because they don't want to say we messed up with the transition, and we'll stay in FDOT's pocket and make sure that they react because this would have been one of their first cuttings. So, again, I just think it's a transition glitch, and we will stay with them. We will actually get a date on when they're going to go out there and take care of this issue. So it's not sitting o

No, no, no. I knew Chad was working on it.

And I'm hoping that we can resolve without going the whole TPO route and all that. So we're trying to deal with it at the lowest level possible and just get the medians taken care of. Once they're in the swing of things, it won't get missed, right, because they keep the right-of-ways on 41 very nice. So when I see the right-of-ways looking nice, the medians, it's their first time, it's like, okay, this is a transition glitch. We can get this fixed, and then it'll be done as it should.

And just for the public's notice also, we can't just have volunteers go out into the medians for DOT safety issues. That's a whole ball of wax that even I don't want us to get in trouble with. Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane. Well, that's because my daddy would have beaten you. You can't talk from out there, babe. Sorry. Sorry, Shane. Give me a call.

But that's a great idea. Let me ask this. Can I ask the council, since this is a workshop, discretion to allow Shane Stevens to speak again. Would anybody have a problem with that? For a quick minute, that's fine. Shane, come up and speak from the podium. And so we have a record up. Hey, awesome. Shane Stevens. There you go. Go ahead.

And I can believe Daddy made you pull weeds out there.

My apologies. We have to run our city government in a democratic fashion, what we're really trying to do. respond to anything more than I did on that Facebook. And I did respond. And as I said, it was immediately forwarded for our administration to get a hold on it. But until the council has a chance to digest it and the staff has a chance to figure out what we need to do and how it has to be addressed to the council, that takes time. And I can't speak for the council on issues like that unless the council has heard the issue. You see what I mean? So what I was trying to get the point across w

I know, and they say a lot of things on Facebook, and I try to respond where I can where it's positive, and I try to furnish a factual account of where we are all the time. I don't want to stretch it out. I don't want to add things that somebody would get inflamed about or somebody would be proud of until the issue is firmed up so we know some facts. I don't want to put anything in there that's not true. I mean, some of the things in there definitely lack... A level of something other than the truth, let's put it that way. But we're going to do the very best we can to get this resolved, I prom

Anyone else have anything else to say? Yes, Jan, welcome.

You see this is being handled right now as you speak. It's a great suggestion, Jan.

Well, those lanes are so narrow now, it makes me nervous to be in a southbound turn lane with those people around that corner. But so far, so good, I haven't been hit yet. I'm lucky, I guess. We all are. Anything else, Jan? You're going to do the report later? Okay. All right. We'll get to you in just a moment. Anybody else wish to speak? Okay, all right, we'll move on then, and it just happens to be the board reports, and we will recognize Ms. Jan Smith once again.

Thank you, Jan. Thank you. We'll move on now, ladies and gentlemen. to item number four, council agenda items. And the first one on the list there is for me. It's Arts and Health Ocala Metro. Council, what this is, it's a letter of recommendation and compliment this group. They have been recognized by Marion County commissioners and also the city of Ocala. They're making a major effort in their organization, and it would be nice if we could send them a recommendation for their work. Does anyone have an objection? Mandy, you need anything else on that?

Can we get a copy of that, that we can just read it? Or did we get a copy?

No, I just didn't know if I could see what it was. I mean, I just think it's a, you just want a letter of a comment, not a proclamation. Yeah, I would recommend, because they're not, yeah.

Okay, yeah. If I can just read. Anything, Rex, on that? Do you have any comment on it? Tim, do you have any? Sure. I think that, is that okay, Valerie? No, that's fine. I just. I think that's a good idea. I mean, you guys got a consensus. Yeah. Okay, we'll move on to item 4B, Councilman Enkeep. That's all yours, Tim.

All right, first one is a special of inordinance. We discussed that at the last meeting. Council meeting Mandy put out a letter An email to the parties that typically hold the events and ask them to also send it out to anybody else that They thought might be interested in What we asked for was technical You know for people to go through the ordinance even compare it to the last ordinance there's not been that many changes most of the stuff people are bringing issues up with are already in the existing ordinance. So, you know, with that, we've got a round table. We've had several different meet

Valerie? I did go, and I'm sorry, I did mean to do some stuff this weekend when I was out of town, but I left my laptop at home, which is always a nice thing on occasions. But Did we address the electricity since we are getting it amended at the Ernie Mills Park?

I think it's line 197-205. My computer back I don't I guess I've taken the ordinance out of my computer back must be fine my bed So that might need to be

Well, the sound system at the bandstand should be good now. That's why I'm saying that shouldn't have to be there any longer. Now, the food trucks, yeah, absolutely. That's just common sense that we can't do 15 food trucks or anything on our power grid. That's just common sense.

I thought we had discussed also about the days, like for a celebration of life, for instance, not having to have a 120-day deadline. I thought we had discussed making that. with a little bit more manageable because you don't always know you have three months for somebody who's no longer with us to plan their event.

Right, but I know we had discussed that earlier, and I thought we had gone ahead and made the decision to lower that down because I had brought up the instance where there's a young lady that's planning her an addiction walk due to the fact that her sister sadly passed from addiction.

I thought we had decided on, like, 45 days last time we discussed it.

No, I totally, and I apologize. I'm trying to pull it all up on my.

I understand if someone is planning an event, and there are different stages of timing with events. But just like Valerie mentioned, someone's having a memorial service. or something of that nature. You're going to tell them a set date off, you know, when they're trying to plan on their family members coming into town and if they wanted to have a picnic there or they wanted to have some small gathering. And I say a small gathering. It could be on up 50, 60 people. Around here it could be a lot more than that. I would like to see a net mechanism where our city administration has discretion when

Well, we want to relay that to the citizens. We say all that, and it's more instructive than it is assistant. In other words, we want an open feeling to our citizens if something like this comes up, and we have somebody here in town says, you know, my uncle died, and we'll have all these people in town. Wouldn't it be great if we could have it at Ernie Mills Park in two weeks? And I'm not talking about 500 people. I'm talking about if somebody wants to. And they tell you, I think it's going to be 50, 60, maybe 80 people. The citizens understand that that's not a set thing. The clerk can look a

Doesn't that line item cover exactly what you're asking for? Well, it... This is an ordinance, remember.

I know that, but once again, I want it to be as welcoming as it can.

And I'm not suggesting that, Mandy. What I'm talking about is I want the people of the community to feel that that park is there for them. And I know when it's a long range issue where it's months off and people are planning a special event and they have a set date and this, that, and the other, We just seem to be so – it seems so cold. It's a cold approach to me that everything is kind of set up like we're in Orlando or Tampa or something. And I know you, and I know you would have discretion and you would understand, but that's the side of this city government I want the citizens to see.

And, Mr. Mayor – to piggyback on your sentiment, and I understand the business side of it and the liability issue side of it, but the Mandy Roberts and – That's not my name anymore. Oh, gosh. Sorry. The Mandy Roberts Odom, the Mandy Odom. Sorry about that. I've known you too long. Apologies. But we won't always be sitting up here and – Mrs. Odom will maybe not be sitting there, so we have to have it clear for that. Ten years from now, someone sitting in any of these positions will understand what the thought process was for why we put that in that verbiage. And if it needs to, maybe it's that

It's very clear. I mean, I don't know how it could be any more clear what it says. And, again, this is not a marketing tool. It's an ordinance. It has to be very clear, very specific. It gives exactly Walter you're asking for. If somebody comes in here, you'll see it's a memorial service. Who can plan out 120 days a loved one's going to die? That don't happen. uh... so somebody wants to do that uh... they would come in here and uh... like we've always seen mandy and company will jump through themselves and make everything happen that it can and this particular

I agree. I totally agree with what you're talking about, Mandy. You need to have the time in order to fulfill the obligations. And having a yardstick that demonstrates the size and the difficulty of it, in other words, the steps that have to go through to qualify for the event, I understand that. We need time to do that, and that should be in it. I just, I hear constantly from many, many members of the public that don't feel that the city is being responsible to the members of the public and they're more like being talked to rather than listened to. And I want our citizens to feel welcome in t

Walter, I just thought of a, a 1960s good living room with the vinyl on the good couches that you couldn't sit on. So that's exactly what we don't want over at our park. We don't want to fix it up so that nobody can sit in it and play. That's exactly it.

Well, Rex, you've come up with some good ideas about trying to renovate the playground equipment and make it more viable for our citizens. That's a great goal. I don't want a magazine park. I want a park that's used. That's used.

They need to feel comfortable. That's what it's there for. It's not just for a show place of we spent the money there, but nobody goes there. We don't want that. I don't.

So, Mandy, you're thinking terminology small event? Are you thinking of putting, which would be the 50 to 26?

I think that's a good suggestion, Mandy.

And still give you the, or your position and such.

Yeah, leave the rest of the language in there.

The ability to work with people if it's, like you said, 116 days versus 120 days because they were out with the flu.

Rex, can we touch on each one back and forth instead of just moving on and we forget? Okay. Thank you. With that one, okay, the – I'll use the old bingo hall, okay? You know, that's private property at that point, okay? And we don't want to have an ordinance that says or that lets Anybody go park on their property. The other example I'm going to use is back when I had pictures ready to go, but I won't bore you with those. With the Boomtown Days event, I went down there and I took a look and I went down every single road on Riverview and all that. You could not even get an emergency vehicle thr

May I just make a comment just real quick before we go off of that? You hit it on the nail. No matter what we do, people are going to park where people are going to park. That's just a given. And I don't know why I'd never thought of this until about five seconds ago, but the lady who does all of the parades... in ocala i've gone blank on her name too and i just had it um i'm gonna give her a call i have her name and number i'll find it and i'll remember it but she'll be able to because i mean she does the huge parades the christmas parades ever over in um ocala she did the 250 parades this ca

Yeah, I know, because I'm the one who reached out, got the ordinance, okay, and I went down, compared them, you know.

Lieutenant Micah is the one that gave me the lady that does the special events in Ocala. If I can speak to this. Absolutely. You guys are kind of going in circles. Right. Micah, the other thing if you'd like to address is without this ordinance saying about the private property, we keep laying more and more on law enforcement.

If I could ask a question, how about parking on the right-of-way where... Now I've got this situation unexplained. Two vehicles can't get through.

Yep. So before we keep moving, so how can we fix the wording for Roman No.

I'm just trying to figure out a way to delineate from the department. Do you understand the way somebody could read this?

So that would be a question for our attorney, I think, who's listening from above.

And that would be a – and that's not the city's – I mean, I would highly recommend the city, of course, always posting on our website, hey, designate – you know, we're having our Boomtown days. This chamber has designated these locations for parking. But then, of course, and I apologize if I pick on DCBA, but for this event, DCBA would be the ones responsible for putting up the sign stating public parking, you know, and an arrow. So that would not be the city responsible.

But also don't forget Little Lake Baseball.

Well, I think he was talking more about the personal parking and not specifically putting in Dunham Presbyterian Church, correct? We're not putting that in our ordinance.

It's not going to be anybody's residential home.

Unless they have a big lot and they harass. Right.

Of course, they would do it. Right. That alleviates the big concern of having only 50 houses. Yeah.

Yeah. She's asking where was that follow-up. What was the second place it was noticed?

Amanda, do you have any way to put that up on the screen? I'm trying to read it off my cell phone, and it's very minute.

And is there any verbiage we could put, and I see where you're coming from, any way we could say does not have to be I guess the staff will just have to make sure that they realize it doesn't have to be Valerie's house, Rex's house, everybody's house.

Oh, okay, okay. Anyway. So, Mandy, are we going to make a change under D? B and D. B and D. And where are we making the change at under D?

How about instead of the word private... Designated... Property.

Just property. The same kind of language that you were going to use before, per plan. Yeah. And then add words that...

You'll figure it out. Okay. I think that we're private.

We understand. I'll work up something and get it out to y'all. Rex, did you have anything else that you wanted to review? Yeah. Okay. Bye. I just wondered if we could come to a consensus on this. Okay.

She's making the changes as we go, Rex. So if we're agreeing to the changes. Right. That's why I want to make sure that we get it done.

That's getting pretty convoluted right now. Yeah, okay, anyway. I know I'm with you.

I think really the only thing we need is two things. I don't think the taxpayers should be paying for the electric, so we need to get that captured. Not in this ordinance, but in the menu that we have for everything, for special events charges. The... But I think the only thing we need to know electric-wise, and I'm with, let's put something in there that says, you know, maximum amount of amperage is X, okay, because there's one, and then...

And that was my thought. You know how we get the...

Absolutely, yeah, sure, we've all done that.

How you can only plug in three electric cords to do your Christmas lights. Is there something that we...

Here's... Okay, we have four outlets. Each outlet is good. They're either going to be 15 amp or 20 amp. Do we put 20s in? Okay, so we got four 20 amp outlets. So the restriction is going to be 20 amps on each outlet. It's not 80 amps total because you don't want people doing what you're talking. It's going to be 20 amps per outlet.

Well, no, no, no, no. We're not letting food trucks hook up to our...

They don't even have to delineate who does what. It is 20 amps per outlet, and they can plug that in to wherever. I mean, this is my opinion. They can plug it in to whatever they want to plug it in to. 20 amps, because that's all the receptacles are rated for.

We're not going to be able to regulate. Again, it's going to be the special event holder that's going to have to do it. And if they blow a breaker, we're not coming out because they overloaded it and reset a breaker. I agree, because it'll be going off in 10 minutes again. Now, Chad, are you sure that the out, and I just want to clarify, the outlets, I know we may have a 20 amp, well, no, if we've got a 20 amp breaker, we have to have a 20 amp outlet, right? Sorry. Brain movement. Okay.

Okay, Rex, is there something else? I've got a couple more here. Hang on, let's make a change.

Okay, we'll be right back here again. So,

Do we... See, but that's where we're... We specifically are getting everything fixed up out there so that we could do sound systems or... We have four 20 amp things.

It doesn't matter what anybody wants to hook into it.

Well, then I guess this is saying that you can't, no matter if you're 20 amps or not. I'm with you. We've got to reword this, right. So that's what I'm doing right now.

So, and I don't know... Let me ask you all this. Are you good behind the scenes? We reword? Well, we're not voting this tonight anyway, so... Right, right. But we want to bring it back to the council meeting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So between now and the council meeting, if we got the gist of it... We got the gist of it. Right.

May I just... one one thought on that process too tim is that when you go to and i don't do this so if somebody else smarter than me on this knows but like when you go to an rv you can only park your a big rv that will only take 30 you got 50 or you got 30s right oh okay so i was almost right so i mean we kind of have that i mean that's kind of in their policies as well or their rules so there has to be something that we could the plugs don't fit so you can't oh well

I was trying. We can reword this thing. We understand what needs to be done so we can spell out the different receptacles.

Marion County doesn't do the MOTs. The sheriff's office doesn't do the MOTs. Yeah, you don't do them?

Rich, we have nothing to do with barricades. We're out of the barricade business. We don't have anything to do with it. Okay, we haven't got any? No, we have them, but ours are for shutting down roads, sinkholes, and that kind of thing. The liability, okay, so we're not, other than for city use, we're not putting out barricades anymore.

So just real quick, regarding the barricades, very quickly, sir, I know that we're not trying to get into the business of using our barricades and such and so forth. However, it might be a... For small, like the small events, are we going to require barricades for anything?

It depends on the event. Then the MOT plans. If they're going to close a road. If they're going to close a road.

Okay, okay, okay. So, but again, I'd like for us to try and still figure out how to do the MOTs. And I know the city can no longer do them.

we're not choosing to do them we're not choosing to do them we don't want to be responsible for the mot's okay and that is something that we have learned from the other cities um et cetera, et cetera, that have had problems. And I'll tell you, from doing six special events, all right, the MOTs have been violated in the past.

And they always will. Even if somebody else does it, they're still going to always be violated.

Right, so we don't want to carry that responsibility. I agree with you, Valerie, that they probably always will.

Because just like he says, they're going to be half parked on the sidewalk and half parked on the road.

We don't want our taxpayers carrying the risk of the lawsuit. And that's what's going on.

Right, yeah. It's actually called TTC. M-O-T is the old one. That's Maintenance.

Okay, anything else? No, I'm done. All right, let's move on then. Blue Run Park documents. Thanks for that. I'm serious.

Yeah, your item number would be Blue Run Park documents.

Okay, before we get off of this one, Manny is going to make the changes we just talked about.

And is that from the Julie email? Yes. Okay, now the ones that I've seen... We've covered a few of them.

The one that I don't think we discussed is revocation. The revocation of parking can be done at any time of revocation. Oh, my gosh. Revoking.

Revocation. Thank you. Gosh. Of the parking can be done with 48 hours from the event. And I agree, if you've been planning something for six months, and because Dunham Presbyterian Church sold to McDonald's and they're no longer allowing public parking and it closed two days before, I can't imagine us saying, oops, sorry, you can't have the Boomtown Days Parade. I mean, so I kind of understand that process. Yeah, but I'll tell you right now, If somebody cancels something because of a business no longer being able to provide something they promised six months ago and 48 hours and the city's not

This one here, it's almost like we're authorizing somebody That they can stop, that they can renege at 48 hours.

No, I don't think anybody's going to do that.

That's planned an event for six months. Yes, we shouldn't use a name. Absolutely. That happened with the music festival a couple times ago. It absolutely happens. The art festival. There were signs out there, and then the art festival was canceled. Gotcha. The music festival was originally going to happen at Rainbow Springs. Yeah. Right. And they had to fit, and then the property owner said, okay, these people are having to fit, so you can't hold it, and that's what happened. But it wasn't within 20, 48 hours. Is this...

Oh, see, now I'm reading it that we're going to revoke their permit to have.

Well, what this is saying is, yeah, they've got to redo a parking plan or their permit is no longer good. I'm good with striking five altogether, unless anybody's got an issue with that.

We're talking line 145? Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. I didn't see it up there behind me. Yeah. Yes.

Well, that's what I mean. I just can't imagine us doing that. So that's why I think if we can strike it, I'm good with us striking it.

We already did her complying with 120 days for the events.

And the other stuff is just adding these documentations to the ordinance.

We took care of the electric. And I think we were going to look at it. And did we ever get the private property parking authorization form to them to look at? I think that one probably has fallen through the cracks.

So, man, you're going to make these changes, get them out to us in time to look at, and we can bring it up in a council meeting.

Now, can I suggest again we get on the blue line part? Sorry, sir.

I want to get things done. I understand. All right, Blue Run Park documents. Okay, create an Excel file sent to Mandy. I believe it's Rex's comments I also seen. I'm not going to go to Rex. I've just seen the two people that responded. Just by the wording, I was guessing it was you, Rex. I won't speak to your stuff again. But short and sweet. WITH MY POSITION IS HAVE THE COUNTY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY BE EVERYWHERE WHERE IT SAYS DUNN-ELLEN, MAKE IT MARION COUNTY. THERE HAS TO BE FCT APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE LANGUAGE IS, ONCE EVERYTHING I

I don't know how to word it. I'm not very articulate. I'm just going to say it like I think. Why do we care?

Did we repair that or Barron County repair that?

That didn't really have anything. to do with the park as much as it had to do what that had to do with was pedestrians right okay going down the sidewalk going down in that area okay and the same thing the kayakers canoers and boaters okay stopping in that area would be um but what it was supposed what it the purpose of that is all the pedestrians that were coming down and going down to that area Those are the folks with homeless people getting down there. Those are the folks that were putting the campfires up under the bridge. Those are the people putting the hammocks up off the water piping.

That bridge belongs to the county, and they take care of it.

And for all practical purposes, we presently do not spend hardly anything on that park. Marion County does the management. Marion County does the expenditure stuff that has to happen inside the park. Marion County parking racks pays for the sheriff's office during the season periods with the high traffic and all that. Marion County pays for all of that. What we want to do is... Since the money does come from KP Hall, we just want to get relief from that management plan and turn the management plan over to Marion County. The management plan can't change without FCT approval. What I'm talking ab

Okay. This particular audit, if it's the same one that I'm thinking of, there were two audits done. Okay. One of them was after the property was purchased, there was an FCT requirement that there be an audit a year later, some other period later. And I believe that's the audit that you're looking at. Yeah. And since that time, the bike trail has been put in on the railroad tracks. The trail that leads from Blue Run Park going to the bike trail, that's all been done. Oh, okay. So that would be after this year.

Okay, anything else? We'll go on to item animal control agreement.

This agreement auto-renews at the end of September. I was surprised when I read that, so I spoke to Mandy about it. Because anything where we have agreements that are going to terminate or auto-renew, we should know many months in advance so that we can take a look at the agreement and see if we want to auto-renew it. Or if it's going to terminate, You know, we need so many months to come up with another agreement. And so what Mandy explained to me is for stuff that terminates, they have something in the computer calendar that auto pops up many months in advance to give us the opportunity to,

Okay. Okay. Any questions or concerns? All right. We'll move on now to item number five, staff agenda item, fire department building repairs. Mandy.

WHAT YOU GOT BIDDED ON, DOES THIS... Give us the satisfaction that the building will be in good shape once it's completed, or is this just a patch? Or as Rex had mentioned, with spending money, we may need to go back and spend more later. Does this solve the issue?

So the other sides will not, in your opinion and the opinion of the inspection.

Just the east side. We want to put the building in good shape and be done with it.

What's your opinion of what they recommended to you?

So, question. I see that they're going to caulk and paint new siding. Will we need to paint the whole building to make it all, I mean, the

And they don't think that the wood siding on the other sides do need to be replaced or will need to be replaced? No.

Anything else, Carmen? Yes, sir. Rex? Tim, do you have any suggestions, concerns? No, sir. Sounds good to me. What do we need to move forward with then, Mandy?

Okay. So we'll have something to consider at the next meeting on the 9th? Yes. Does everybody understand that? Absolutely. Does that work for you, Maggie? Yes. Chad, does that work for you? Yes. Okay. Any other questions, concerns on that? No, sir. All right. Well, let's move on then. How about item number six, resolutions? 6A resolution, RES 2026-25, building department fees back up to be provided. Who wants that?

And that brings us into compliance with state statute? Well, that's going to have to be our target.

Okay. Any questions? Everybody understand that?

I understand it, but to his point about it being cost now based on how many hours versus how much the house would have been to build, do we have any projections of will that increase our funds or will that decrease the funds coming into that department?

Now, didn't we just see an example of this at some point in time? I mean, when it got changed, there was an example of this, and where I'm leading to is, you know, we had an hour for this, two hours for that. Right, I remember that. But all we said was that those were just examples. That was not what the actual cost is. But just to show the math, if this takes an hour, you know, then it's times this rate for everything you just mentioned, and then there's the number. But the hour was not cast in stone.

Okay. I've got one more question. Finance-wise – Were those typically escrow-type items, which basically means they were passed through?

Right, right, right. That's where I was leading to.

Randy, what's the timeline for this? When is the state telling us that we need to step in line? July 1. Well, I know this is another demand on you. You've got your plate full to start with. Do you think you'll have something for us by the 9th?

Well, that's what I was, you know, if it's imperative, we could call a special meeting on this issue later.

All right. Well, I guess what I want to do is I want to give you an opportunity to get in compliance so that you'll be comfortable with what you're trying to achieve. I don't want to put you in a situation.

Well, you've got the discretion to call them in, don't you, to do what you need?

Okay. And this has messed up the county as well. I mean, it's... It's totally everybody in the state.

Mandy, I know it's a work in progress, but at least I'd like to have it. Could I get the spreadsheet that we're looking at right now?

Cool. Okay. All right. Any other questions on this? Randy, anything else? All right. We'll move on to item number seven, proclamations. Proclamation PRO-2026-05, Constitution Week.

Okay, any questions? That's the DAR. Okay. We'll move on into item number eight, council comments.

Rex? No. Tim? Actually, I have two questions for you, Ryan, since you're playing our attorney today. We've had this compounded truck for an incredible amount of time. Where are we at with that?

Somebody that knows English, thank you, sir.

Okay, cool. Would you be the squeaky wheel and not just wait on her, but maybe reach out to her? several emails so I am on top of it okay thank you the next second question is this third Street property is there a short version of where we're at with that yeah so so where we're at with that we've received a

No, sir. Thank you for being here tonight. Rick?

Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. We'll now have public comment. Does anyone in the public wish to speak?

Just to let you know, the events have for decades, for probably two decades now, been at the expense of the citizens or the residents planning them. I'm in agreement that we need to start looking at being more of a community-driven helping with, like having the Boomtown Day get out of jail thingamabob that was always outside. I think that's going to be the challenge this year is to look how we can start becoming more part of the city of Dunellan

First of all, the special events are not held by citizens. They're held by nonprofit groups and their fundraisers. So the purpose that they do this is to raise funds for whatever their particular thing is. as far as this ordinance this ordinance doesn't change anything as far as we don't have any cost the only cost that we have that the city not cost the only thing that special events folks pay the city for is whatever the permit fee is and it's it's Not really changed. I mean, maybe a tiny percent, but not this ordinance. This ordinance doesn't change that. The fees are set up in a resolution

And it is a fair question, and I understand your question. But I don't want to get into a debate about it. It's okay for a council member to request a comment, period. But we're not going to debate it, okay? Fair enough. Okay. Now, Tim, do you want to comment? Rex, do you have anything? Thank you very much for being here.

The FCT is what restricts what can and can't be done with that.

It is very, very limited. So it's not like the county is going to come in here and start doing this or start doing that. They simply can't. Again, to do any changes have to go through the FCT. The requirements are very easy to understand.

I mean, we can't even tube it anymore. Right, that's a whole different animal.

Why is it? Well, your questions relate to an issue that has been ongoing for many, many years. And it was set up purposefully to be a free public park. So there's not going to be any allocation of funding out of that park. The only thing that can happen is you've got an operation in KP Hole that is tied in to Blue Run Park. That particular application is in there. But as far as any fundraising, any gathering of funding to the city or the county from the operation of that park, that's not going to be allowed. I'm just telling you that simply. I'm trying to make it as simple as I can. That can't

We are giving the grant money back. If you look at the agreement, the city is obligated under some expenses And those involve water and sewer. And they could be a great deal of money. We're obligated in that agreement. So we want to be careful about what we're getting into. Because this could be an opening in expenses to the city. And then we don't want that.

That project is right on the verge. They're putting the signs out now. Last week they started putting up signs, barrels, and all that kind of stuff. It's not going to be a sidewalk. What it's going to be is what you see existing. They're going to put the concrete barriers up, like you see in road construction on the highways. That's what's going to go over the bridge. Then when they get to the east side of the bridge, they're going to put a gravity wall up, and there's going to be a takeoff. From that, they're going to put a path right so pedestrians and bikes can get down into Blue Run.

And that also, I'll add this to it, there will also be crosswalks involved with this design. There will be one down near Reed's Bank. Crosswalk there. They will not be like we have on 41 with the traffic signals, but they will be designated crosswalks. And there will be another one near the west end of the Rainbow River Bridge so that people can cross there also. So that's wrapped into that same plan.

That's awesome. And just one thing, Mr. Mayor, and just for clarification, because I want to make sure everybody hears that might be listening, that all of the parades are not for profit. Or to try and, or not fundraisers, i.e. the Little League is just representing all of the great kids and parents that are going out there and hitting the balls as hard as they can. So I just wanted to make sure I made that clarification for everyone.

I was just making sure that it's not about fundraising.

Anyone else wanna make a public comment? Yes.

Who as a contractor is going to be doing the work out there? Putting the electric in? Yeah. Duke Energy will be one.

Chad, is that something that we could check on with them, and if there's a change in the contract?

It's a very good suggestion, and if you work with that contractor, and if there is an adjustment, then we certainly want to do it.

He has some discretion. His staff has some discretion on things like this. They can do that.

Well, that's why we wanted quality work. You know, we could do the best we could do. As Chad said, you realize that when you see the design of that, and you know it gets that sun every morning. It's beating it. The other side doesn't get that. It's hitting it, and that's what's caused most of the trouble, and that's just nature. That's the part that's been weathered the worst.

We still own the building, so it's part of our agreement.

We didn't have to give our citizens an impact fee every year, or not an impact fee, but a fee every year. That would have been like over $400 if we'd kept the fire department. And we could never afford all the new vehicles and such.

Go ahead, complete your statement, Danny. I'm letting you run over, but our time's, you know.

Anyone else want to address the council? Micah, do you have anything tonight that you want to bring up? Okay. Anyone else want to address the council? All right. Seeing no one, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. Motion on the floor to adjourn.

Ryan, you just went ahead. All right. I appreciate it.