Commission - Regular Meeting

Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the City of Boynton Beach City Commission meeting. Today is Tuesday, September 8th, 2026. The time is now 6 p.m. We will now turn to the interim city clerk for roll call, please.

Present. Mayor, you have a quorum. Thank you. Our invocation tonight will be led by Commissioner McCray, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by me. Let's all stand for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance, please.

Let us bow, please, to the creator and maker of all mankind. Father, we pause at this time just to say thank you. Thank you for all your goodness that we take for granted. We want to say thank you tonight for our chamber full. But whatever reason, let us agree. And also, if we disagree, let us remember that we're still human. We all make mistakes and we all have opinions. I ask that you continue to bless this great city, the city of Boynton, but most of all, bless the United States of America. As we get ready for another election, let us vote, and vote the correct way. And one thing about it,

We are now moving on to the agenda approval, additions, deletions, and corrections. Let's begin on my right with Commissioner Cruz.

Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I did want to ask if we could move up the proclamation to 2B before we get into the budget, just because I don't know how long those discussion items are going to take, and so I'd rather move that up if we could.

Do you want to put it before the discussion?

Thank you. That's all I have. Commissioner McRae.

Thank you, Mayor. If I need to pull anything, I do it in proceedings right now. It's good the way we are. Thank you the agenda. Thank you. Motion to approve. Second.

We have a motion to approve the agenda. We have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes. We will now move on to informational items by the member of the City Commission. That's speaking on my left with Commissioner.

No, we're going to do the proclamation. Sorry.

Moving into the proclamation. You have it, correct? Yes, I do. Next would be the proclamation for Hunger Action Month. The proclamation will be accepted by Allison Volks from Feeding from South Florida and Commissioner Kelly is going to read the proclamation into the record.

Thank you. Thank you. I saw Allison in the audience. So I'll read the proclamation and then we'll come up. Whereas since 1981, Feeding South Florida has worked to end hunger in the city of Boynton Beach by providing our community in need with immediate access to nutritious food. And whereas hunger does not discriminate, it knows no race, religion, or age. In South Florida, approximately one million individuals face hunger. Food should not be an impossible choice for the community of the City of Boynton Beach. And whereas Feeding South Florida leads hunger and poverty advocacy efforts in our co

MOVING ON TO INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. COMMISSIONER McCRAY.

Thank you, Mayor. First of all, I'd like to put emphasis on our community meetings that we have that last Monday of each month over at the Carolyn Sims Center. Although it's held in District 2, this is not only for the citizens of District 2, but for all of the citizens that live here in Boynton. The last meeting we had the privilege of having State Representative Rob Long Address us. County Commissioner Bobby Powers, yours truly. City Water Department gave information to the conditions of the water system here in Boynton. And also we had representatives that gave us information in regards to

Commissioner Kelly? No, Mayor, I do not have any information.

Okay, moving on. We are going to be moving on to the proposed millage rate and the tentative budget will be presented and discussed today and then voted on separately. I will turn to the clerk to read item 2B into the record, please.

Are there any questions from the commission?

Thank you for your report. First of all, I'd like to say you talked about rental of vehicles. Have you all looked into rental of fire trucks, garbage trucks, et cetera? Is that savings? I'm just saying maybe the public would like to hear that.

My next question is, we have a lot of city staff, high-ranking, that have vehicles that they drive that the city provides. I'm just saying, is there any way that you all can look into it and find out who, really don't need a city vehicle can use their own vehicle and can pay for their own gas and stuff. I'm just saying a penny earned is a penny saved, and that's the way I'm looking at it.

When we're presenting a budget to the citizens of this city and anybody else, I'm just saying, The main thing after we show where we're saving money, we need to show them how we are saving money and what we are cutting out. I'm just saying we're cutting to the bone. So when people say y'all could do better, I'm just saying show me, show them that we're doing better. We are cutting out everything that's not of a necessity. and not of a priority.

I was, I was shocked when I came back and I found out that we did not have a PI budget. And I'm just saying that was kind of shocking to me. I'm like saying, who made that decision? And I don't know how we got to that point, but, uh, I guess you all are doing the right thing. I'm watching you all to make sure that we are doing the right thing. I'm just as guilty as you all are, okay? No, you're watching. Thank you, sir.

Mayor, I'd like to say since we have the audience here and a lot of people don't know why the city manager is not here. Anytime a city manager is absent when we're doing a budget, it's nice to let them know he's under the weather. He's not out because we're doing the budget. So I just want that to be clear.

Commissioner Cruz, did you have something to say?

I just want to say thank you for your hard work and really going back to the rollback rate. It's never happened before and I know we've tried to decrease slightly every year, but this has been definitely above and beyond.

Thank you. Real quick, I don't know if you can answer this question or if the, I have, so my concerns of course go to where we're talking about hiring freezes. especially in public safety, where that has been one of our, as a commission, our focus has been on public safety and making sure that our community is safe. We have boots on the ground doing the work. And so I have concerns when we're talking about hiring freezes for not only this budget year, but moving into next budget year, Right now, we're sitting at... My understanding, we're sitting at six officers down from where we were. This i

Okay, and then, I mean, are we, I know, are there positions that we're anticipating through this, the year that we will be down further where we're talking about having to make some shifts and some changes? I understand, I believe there's some people retiring. So do you have those numbers?

Mayor, when we start putting out the word hiring freeze for the city of Boynton, we have to be careful and make sure that we explain it the correct way because people are saying, well, I don't want to go to Boynton because they're not hiring anybody. I'm just saying, so we have to be cognizant of what we're saying and how we say it.

No other comments? No. Thank you, Chief.

We will now open to public hearing on the proposed millage rate and the tentative budget. So if anyone would like to come down and make a comment on this item, now's the time. We'll definitely check if anyone is online. Please come down, sir. This is not the open public. This is just this item. Yeah. Once we get through these, then we'll be into the regular public comment.

Yeah, if you're finished with this part, yeah. With this part, yes.

No, just somebody who wants to speak later at a different item.

Seeing no further comment in the room or online. Do you have a comment?

Not a comment, but a question. Would this be the right time to? What I wanted to ask the finance team is if we could pull up the calculator like we've done in the past just to show what the difference would be for an average home from the 7.75 Avalorum rate to the rollback rate and how much savings that would be on the property taxes.

Yeah, just like we did in past years. In past years, we would look at rates and look at examples at the budget workshop and just say, oh, this is how much you know, an average home would be able to save in taxes if we do the current rate versus the rollback rate.

Comments? If there's nothing else, we would take up the millage rate first. For the rollback rate, 7.4257 mils. The proposed operating millage rate is 7.4257 mils, and the percentage increase over the rollback rate is 0%.

We have a motion. We have a second for resolution number R26150. Let's turn to the clerk for a roll call.

Next is the tentative budget. Motion to approve. We have a motion to approve and we have a second. R26-151, adopting the tentative budget for fiscal year 2026-27. Let's turn to the clerk for a roll call.

Moving on to item C, proposed resolution number R26152, approving the annual comprehensive fee schedule rate for fiscal year 2026 to 2027. Staff, do you have a presentation?

I don't have a question, but I have some concerns now. The concern is that what Commissioner Cruz asked, you didn't have a presentation for that, which I understand. We asked something else. You didn't have a presentation for that. Make yourself a note. I'm just saying, you know, when you give it to us next time, the public needs to know this. I'm just saying it's not just for us. It's their money and our money that we're spending.

Let's just stay on, and then we'll have them come up. Let's just go on. Are there any other comments from the commission on this?

Just one quick comment. I wanted to see if we could implement some sort of a resident discount. I do see that the golf fees stay the same. There's a bit of a change in some of the... rental fees for facilities or rooms for parties and events and things of that nature. And that's the majority of the things that my constituents have talked to me about that they use mainly. So I wanted to see, even if it was at least once a year, if you're a Boynton Beach resident, can you get, for example, a 20% discount to rent one of our rooms? I would like to see if we could implement something like that. to

When we start saying reduce rates for citizens, we have to be cognizant of making sure that people who say they live in this city lives in this city.

And we would set up a system, you know, to implement it, which would require showing ID or a water bill or something that shows that you're, a City of Boynton Beach Incorporated resident, not just, you know, the same zip code.

So when we have like baby showers, birthdays, family reunions, the social celebrations, that's kind of what I was scaring to. Maybe we could either give our proven Boynton Beach residents the nonprofit rate or if we could give them maybe whatever the commission desires, whether it's a 20% discount or whatnot. For our residents that have proven to live inside the incorporated limits of the city

I have a question on that end. So I'm looking at this and it doesn't indicate a separate fee for resident and non-resident when it comes to rentals of our properties. Is that because we don't typically rent to non-residents unless it's a commercial rental? Because this says resident rates, non-profit, private, commercial. do we only rent our facilities to residents, but there's different categories based on if it's a resident who owns a commercial or a resident that's coming for themselves or a resident who is renting it for a not-for-profit. So I guess because there isn't a resident rate vers

I guess we can talk offline. In our schedule of fees, it doesn't break it down that there's a resident versus a non-resident. In this chart that we have, it just says resident rates. And so coming into this conversation, it doesn't look like there, which I'm sure is kind of how that came about, you know,

Well, that's very confusing, so maybe we can think of a better way to do this so that it makes more sense. For a 64-page attachment, it would be helpful if it was... A little bit easier.

I'm not opposed to having the discussion about maybe doing a one-time. I think it encourages people to maybe use our facilities as opposed to going to their, or thinking outside of the box. So, you know, as a one time, like if they've never rented before, if they've never used our facilities as a one time, like, you know, giving a little bit more of a discount to kind of encourage usage of our facilities, I wouldn't be opposed to that, having that conversation. Okay.

If there's nothing else, is there a motion to adopt proposed resolution number R26-152? So moved. Second. We have a motion and we have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes unanimously. Moving on to item D, proposed resolution number R26-153, authorizing the City Commission to set rates, fees, and charges for water, wastewater, stormwater, and reuse water for upcoming fiscal year 2026-27. Staff, presentation.

I'm ready. My first one will go to staff. I'm just saying, when was the last time we had a rate increase here in the city of Boynton?

Okay, I'm in favor of going to the government to get as much as we can, grants, whatever. Per cent. Because, first of all, I'm just saying when you look at the graph and we're talking about, you know, increases, increase, you know, we have retirees. We have people who have families and everything. And all of a sudden I recognize that this should have been done years ago. We look like we waited until we got to the worst and said we need to do something now. And I'm just saying this is a, excuse me, this is a hell of a bill for somebody to chew. I'm just saying, I'm sitting up there looking at i

I appreciate that. You all keep coming back before us and saying, you know, a study done here and a study done there and a study done here and a study done there by the government. The government is supposed to be looking out for us, and I'm just saying, you know, for the What study did you all read? That's what I'm kind of putting my things on, saying, you know, somebody missed the boat somewhere. When the boat's docked, somebody didn't get on. I'm sorry. I know it needs to be done. That's what you all are telling us, but if you all got grants out there, you all need to find as much money as

Okay. You said that you found $30 million in a grant. Different grants. Different grants. Y'all looking at some more grants?

I think y'all need to step up the game. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm through. Thank you. We'll go in order.

Thank you, thank you guys. I know this is, I feel like for the last couple of years since we really started focusing on prioritizing the health of our water plants, we have had this conversation every year and I know the room is a little bit fuller tonight than it normally is when we have these conversations. I'm kind of glad that it is because I feel like these are important conversations to be having in front of a room full of residents. um our aging facilities have been neglected for years and years and years and when you're talking about not increasing the rates that's because all of those

One more question before you answer that. The services that we're providing outside of the city limits, do you want to go over what they're now going to be charged as well? Because we do service...

When we did the East Water Treatment Plant and we put up that champagne glass, y'all call it, some years ago, probably 20 years ago, a little less than that, and we had the big old pipes running from Warbright all the way out to the West Plant and all that stuff, I was under the influence then that doing all of this, they told us before on another different set of individuals that this will help get Boynton Water where it needs to be. I feel like when they did that to us, we was duped then. So I'm, I don't want to be duped again. That's all I'm saying. 17% is a little too high for me to go at

Um, thank you for your comments and, and Dr. Puna as well for your expertise. It's, it's unfortunate that we have to deal with unfunded mandates and, aging infrastructure that hasn't been taken care of in decades. But at the same time, I represent a district that has a very high percentage of a population of seniors living on fixed incomes and small families that are also growing. I don't generally like to see increases, but I do understand that everything is increasing, including food. Even when we go to the grocery store gas all kinds of things So there there is a need right there is a need

This is my final question okay tonight we're talking about a 17 percent increase will you all be back here next year talking about we need to keep going up?

I just want to say thank you. I know you have a hard job and it's difficult to come up here and talk about something that's very difficult but also very necessary. So just thank you.

So we have two choices here. We either get a motion or is it something that you can revisit it at not the 17.25% increase when we come back next week and talk about it.

That's something you can do before next budget meeting.

We have a motion to table and we have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes.

Moving on to E. Tammy, you're up to read item 2E into the record.

Are you sure? You can try to find your stool.

Thank you. Any other comments or questions from the commission?

We are now opening for public hearing on the canal maintenance special assessment. This is an opportunity for effective property owners and members of the public to comment on or object to the assessed cost and the assessment rates. If anyone would like to speak on it, please come down. Just on this item?

If there's nothing else, is there a motion to adopt proposed resolution number R26-154? So moved. We have a motion. We have a second. Let's turn to the clerk for a roll call.

I will turn to the clerk to read the fire assessment item proposed resolution number R26-155 into the record, please.

Excuse me. Yes, sir. Before you go any further, let me go back to this fire assessment, the history of the fire assessment, then we can go on. I understand what you're saying. Go ahead with your question, but I still want to go. Go ahead. Let him go ahead. Go ahead and respond. Go ahead, sir. Go ahead.

Ready now? Thank you. I sat up here when the fire assessment was first introduced to this city. At the time it was introduced, they said it was sunset in seven years. Follow me because a lot of you all wasn't here. I was here. I was the same individual that made the statement. I said, once it gets put into Boynton, We're going to be taxed for the rest of our lives. They say it's not a tax. It's an assessment. You call it whatever you want to. I consider it still a tax, and it's been years and years. We're still paying for the same thing over and over and over and over again. You might not want

No, I don't have a question. I had a comment, but anyway, I just want to say, you know, I've got to vote for it, but my whole take is like this, you know, stop talking about, you know, it's supposed to be used. We use it for what we said. We got a new fire station that we're supposed to be building now because we're going to be closing that one. But we was duped the first time this was put in. Now we got to continue to live with it because I'll be dead and gone and we'll be still talking about fire assessment and we won't need a fire station. Go ahead. I'm just saying, you know, let's, let's b

Any other comments from the commission? Do you have anything else?

Chief, can you briefly explain, because we do have, this is one of the benefits of this assessment and doing it as an assessment as opposed to a tax, is that there is also a hardship application that our residents can apply for if they truly have a hardship and it's anywhere from disabled veterans to meeting certain income qualifications. And so can you briefly, because I don't know that all of the residents really know that, and we have a good group of residents that can share this information with neighbors and other residents that they know. If you could just briefly go over the hardship ap

Right, so, and that's, it's on our website. Yep. And if you don't have access to the internet, call the city and we'll provide that. But it, I mean, there's a rate. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, eight different categories that you can potentially qualify for this benefit. So if you do truly have a need, and it's not just that you don't want to pay this assessment, I don't want to pay assessments, but I know that the reason why we have this assessment is for our fire services, which is important. Everyone talks about public safety and how they want the firefighters to

Thank you I Yeah, that was a good question about the eligibility. I do want to say that there is an income. If you're low income based on the HHA requirements, you would be eligible to receive the FHIR assessment. I think that maybe we could expand knowledge of the exemption, especially for seniors. One of the One of the categories that applies would be seniors 65 and up and also disabled veterans and among other categories. I just wanted to put that out there. We can also put it on the city's Facebook page or the website and make sure that people have access to it. For me, historically, I've

This will be my final comment. In regards to the assessment, how many people call, utilized I need help applications last year? 53 so we could be looking for 53 more. Uh, in regards to district two, my neighborhood, I'm just saying people complain. I had a lady that called me. She said, commissioner McCree, you all want me to pay a fire assessment and hell I can't live in my house because I had a fire and you want me to pay a fire assessment. These are things that I have to hear. I can say that, you know, for the city of Boynton, the fire stations that you said you was going to build with the

We are now going to be opening up to the public hearing on the final assessment, on the fire assessment. It's an opportunity for effective property owners and members of the public to comment on our object to the fire assessment rate and the assessment as applied to their property. Any written objections received have been made part of the record. So if people would line up on the fire assessment, if you have something to say, already come down to the podium. We're gonna use both sides of the podium. We have still a lot more, and we have a CRA meeting after this. We wanna keep things moving in Yeah, come over to the other. We wanna really switch them out every time the clock changes. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next, please. And anybody else can move over to the opposite podium if you're waiting to speak.

Yes, Mayor, there is a David Karasik online, and if he would unmute his computer and state his name for the record, he can begin. I'll let you know when you have 10 seconds remaining.

Thank you. Thank you. There's nothing else? Would anyone like to make a motion on proposed resolution number R26-155? Motion to approve. Second. We have a motion to approve and we have a second. All those in favor say aye. Oh no, it's a roll call. Tammy.

Thank you. We are now moving on to public audience. Everyone has three minutes per person, non-transferable. It's not a Q&A. Same rules apply. Speaker must address the commission as a whole. Again, this is for any issue that you would like to come down and speak. We ask you that you already start to line up at the microphones and keep things moving. So if you want to speak, please come down and line up now. And you're up first, sir.

And if we could just hold applause and things till the end, that would be great.

That issue is on the agenda for next week, for the next meeting on the 16th.

Thank you. Next, please, sir. Yeah, over to the right, okay.

Thank you. Next, please. Can I just say one thing real quick? Let them finish public comment. Okay. Go ahead. No, go ahead. We're going to finish public comment.

Mayor, there is nobody online for public comment.

Okay, we are closing public comment. Next, we are going to have a discussion.

I just want to tell everybody from Gulfview Harbor that there is a meeting on September 16th. Protective covenant was brought up at a previous meeting, and it will be discussed at the next meeting. So I understand everybody has questions. Just wanted to make that clear. It's not today. It's the 16th.

Next is a discussion of moving the November 3rd City Commission meeting because the general election is on the same day, so we might want to take out our calendars.

Andrew, what was the day that you were, wasn't there a proposed?

Okay. Fifth works for me. That's fine. Okay.

Motion to move the November 3rd City Commission meeting to November the 5th. Second.

We have a motion and we have a second to move the meeting to the fifth. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes. Moving on to 5B, Advisory Board. The first nomination is for me to appoint a regular member to the library. This was tabled on June 2nd. I'd like to keep it tabled. The next nomination is for Commissioner Cruz to appoint a regular member.

I'm fine with keeping it tabled for today. Thank you.

Okay, we're going to keep that tabled. Same with, no, same with the parks and recs? Okay.

Okay, so historic is tabled, but the recreation and parks is not. Okay, would you like to make a motion or?

No, I just wanted to table the entirety and just move forward.

Okay. Motion to table the remainder of the applications.

Yeah, I just, I mean, second for discussion, I just, I mean, I understand tabling it once or twice, and we're, I guess, maybe hoping that applications will come in, but I just wonder, you know, we've been talking about these... I know, but we've been talking about needing people to, you know, serve on our advisory boards, and we encourage it, and it's been pushed out on social media, and I just, you know, there's people that are applying, and we're not appointing them, so I just... It's discouraging, I'm sure, when people apply that then they're not being appointed and it's being not addressed

I ditto what Commissioner Kelly says. That too, thank you.

Yeah, we will. Oh, we need the vote. There was a second, so a vote, please. We have a motion and a second to table these. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes. We will now be moving on to consent. If my colleagues would like to pull any items from consent, let's begin on my right with Commissioner Cruz. Vice Mayor Turkin. Not me. Commissioner Kelly. No. Commissioner McCray.

Okay. Do we have a motion to approve the agenda as amended? So moved. We have a motion. We have a second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed, say nay. Motion passes. Commissioner McCrae, since you would like Resolution R26-157 pulled, we'll start with you.

Thank you. The reason I pulled this was that when I read it, I started laughing. It said the mayor and chief to accept the grant if awarded. That's the only way you could accept it if it was awarded. So I just said, you know, was that the wrong language or? You know, they put grants out there. You know, you're not awarded. You can't accept them. I'm just saying, you know.

I understand that as well. But I'm just saying, for somebody picking this up and reading it, you know, first, second, or third grade, when you read something like this, they're rewarded. They started laughing as well as I did. I'm through with it. Are you supporting it? And I stay. Do you have any questions for it? No. I would just tickle about it if awarded.

We have a motion to approve in a second, R26-157. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes. We will now be moving on to consent bids and purchases. If my colleagues would like to pull any of these items, we will begin on my left with Commissioner McCray. Thank you. Commissioner Kelly? No, thank you. Vice Mayor Turkin. And Commissioner Chris. No, thank you. Great. If there are no further changes, we have a motion to approve. We have a motion to approve. We have a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. And the motion passes. We will now be moving on. I will turn to the clerk to read in item 8A.

I have one. If we approve this, which I'm in favor of, I'm just saying if there's a hurricane or anything like that, we're not liable, are we?

Real quick, John, so we're changing our laws and ordinances because the state is now requiring us to permit manufactured homes in flood zones and so we are this is a cleanup we're cleaning up so that now we're complying with the state law because now the state law is telling us that we have to allow manufactured homes in flood zones even though it's probably not the smartest thing to do that is uh per house bill 803 And it has to meet all of our building codes, so you haven't preempted any of our local building codes and all of that, correct?

Okay, thank you. If there's no other comments or questions from the commission, I would now be open to a public hearing on this item. If anyone would like to come down and speak on this item, now is your time. I assume there's no one online.

After, if you want to address it after. He'll speak with you. I'm so new to this. That's okay. I'm sorry. That's okay. Mr. Pinson will meet you in the back and explain it to you. You're on it. You're on it. Thank you very much. The more you come, the better you're going to be. There's no one online, and so we will be closing public comment on this. If there's nothing else, do we have a motion to approve proposed ordinance number 26-025? Second. We have a motion. We have a second. Let's turn to the clerk for the roll call. Thank you.

And Tammy, can you please read an 8B into the record?

Any comments from the commission or questions? Okay. We're going to open this up to public hearing. If anyone wants to comment on this item, come on down. Okay. No public comment. No one is online, so public hearing is closed. Would anyone like to make a motion on proposed ordinance number 26-026? We have a motion and we have a second. I'll turn to Tammy for the roll call, please.

We're now moving on to the regular agenda, item 10A, proposed resolution number R26-162, adoption for the Boynton Beach Public Art Master Plan. Staff, please come down and do the presentation.

I have one, and not being facetious, you didn't find any missing art, did you?

If there's nothing else, do you have a motion to adopt?

Super quick. And this is one of the suggestions I have is also looking at how we can modify or change something that's already in use and changing it into an art piece. like for instance, you were talking about the city hall and putting an art piece there for sitting. We have some nondescript kind of boring round bike racks, but there are some amazing art pieces that are bike racks. And so really looking at how we can maybe not necessarily add to what is there, although adding is great when there's not anything there, but what we can do to modify what's there to bring in are to make it just no

Awesome. Thank you. If there's nothing else, is there a motion to adopt proposed resolution R26-162? So moved. We have a motion. We have a second. All those in favor, say aye. All those opposed, say nay. Motion passes. Moving on to 10B, on the city use of flock. Vice Mayor Turkin, this was your request.

Thank you, Mayor. Yeah, I have two pages worth of comments. Far more than... You brought it up on Thursday, so I came prepared to talk about it. No, and I think, you know... We, you know, you start going down this road and you start talking about, and there are amazing pros to this program. We've seen it. We've seen us solve crimes in days that took, you know, doing normal everyday police work or back in the day police work would have taken our officers months. if they even solve them, that we're putting people, getting people off the streets. We're also helping people. I think that's somethin

Well, I do think, you know, resident did give us a handout. I don't know if you, SAW THIS, CHIEF, BUT IT IS A GOOD ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER CITIES, AND I THINK IF WE HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS DATA, WE COULD MAKE MORE OF AN EDUCATED DECISION ON THINGS. I KNOW YOU GUYS PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT IT YESTERDAY, AND SO WE CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOU, BUT I THINK IF YOU SAW THIS, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT IF YOU COULD GIVE US THE ANALYTICS ON SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REALLY SEE HOW THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY WEIGHING OUT, AN

Thank you. My whole take on the whole system is once data is gathered and stored, it's there for the taking. That's all I need to say.

You know, excuse me, my whole take is that, you know, we put out to the community and put out saying, you know, Boynton is not in favor of Flocka and going against it. I feel like the criminal is going to say Boynton is a good target. I'm just saying, I hate to say it like that, but, you know, we have to be careful.

Well, it's something we need to revisit.

Okay. We're going to bring this back on an agenda. How long do you need, Chief?

And I think that's key that it's you have been in control of that data. And I think that's where the public and our concern is, is that once that data goes out to someone who is not our police department, then that's what raises that concern. And I think across the country, that's what's raised the concern is now Flock has access to... insane amounts of data. And so I know that we've had systems in place for many years and they've worked. It's rare if not very on probably one hand where you've had any instance or an even question about it, the security of that data. But it's that bridging that

We are good to have this on for the first meeting of October.

So let's get it on the agenda. Okay. Thank you everyone. Moving on. Thank you. Moving on to Tennessee discussion on the censure of the city of the city commission. This was your request.

Thank you. In regards to the discussion of censorship, I'd like for you all to go out and find out how other cities react to this. I'm just saying. I can answer that. Go ahead.

Since you brought that back to me the way you brought it back to me, let me say it this way. The cities that have it, they already have something on the books. Bring me a copy.

Yeah. Let me read it first. I'm just saying, you know, because everybody's sitting up here, you know, when we were sworn in, we were sworn in. We took an oath that my whole take is that everybody said, but we're adults and I don't think we need nobody babysitting us. I don't need to buy the babysitting me. I'm just sorry. I'm like that, but whatever's on the books, let me read it. Thank you.

There's no other final comments tonight. Do we have a motion to adjourn this meeting and move on to our next? Motion to adjourn. Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. I hope not. Five minutes. This meeting adjourned at 925.