Clark County Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Item 37, 38, 39, and 40 are in my district, and I would like to hear them in the order in which they're presented on the agenda, so therefore I do not want the whole language to be placed on the agenda. We'll hear those in the normal course of our meeting tonight, and for those in the audience, you might be aware of that, and the applicant, you're aware of that as well.

If there's nothing further, Mr. Chairman, I'll move that we accept the agenda as stipulated by staff, holding item 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31. Thank you very much.

Before we do that, can I just ask if the applicant for items 28 to 31, is he here? Happy Minor? Okay, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the minutes.

Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve items four through 18.

Mr. Chairman, does that include removing that bullet for the item that... Yeah, they have it, the staff has it, and it includes the motion that was read in by the applicant.

I think we can proceed with it. Can't we, staff? Jason?

I see a light. Nope. Okay. I forgot to turn off. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is in my district and It represents a bit of a legacy for the Bush brothers who have really put Las Vegas on the map when we really didn't have racers that were, at the time, part of Las Vegas. And I'm happy to make a motion to approve item, we'll do this in two motions, item 19, SC-26-0557 for approval for street name change for private drive aisle to Bush Brothers Drive. I'm proud to make that motion.

Do we have anything to add on 20, or can we proceed right to a motion? Yes. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to make a motion to approve item 20SC-26-0558, a street name change to a private drive aisle called Rowdy Road. And I didn't know this earlier, but I was told that Rowdy was a nickname. for one of the Bush brothers and again proud to make that motion on behalf of the county. My motion is for approval.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. You know, I've had a couple of churches with the spires or with the domes not quite as high as this, and they're in neighborhoods that are adjacent to arterials, not smaller streets as we see here on Westwind. and I'm talking about Desert Inn, so. I support the church. I do not support the height of that dome, even though the Islamic, and I forgot to do this in the two weeks, I wasn't as diligent as some, but there's an Islamic church that has a spire right there on Desert Inn, and lamb close in that vicinity. And I think that's probably, if I recall, probably about 40 fe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I appreciate the line of sight. That helps to get a sense for the mass of what the neighbors are going to be looking at. But what I'm confused about here, and maybe this is a question for staff, That is I think the applicant indicated that they don't need all the waivers and Have you had a chance has a staff had a chance to review the new waivers? That the applicant has submitted

Something as complicated as this is, I don't really like evaluating it on the stand during the meeting. I think it gives us a better opportunity to evaluate it if we have more time to think about it and look at it, but that's not what we have. This is what we've got before us. I'm not comfortable, completely comfortable with the mass. I think the mass of the building is still too high. I mean, 95 feet across the street. I mean, there's a first Korean Baptist church That doesn't look like a very it's like maybe a two-story typical two-story building and it has kind of a residential flavor to it

The height is still an important issue. Okay. Okay. Just one more question. Do we have a landscape plot plan?

So they're gonna be 24 inch box trees. That's what we're getting? Yeah, so they would be required the 24 inch box, but they would need to be seven feet at planting say that again They would need to be seven feet tall at planting when they plant there'll be seven feet tall yeah, okay, and the difference in elevation between the church Foundation if you will and the neighbors foundation, what's the difference is it is that? Looks like it's about 12 feet Can you help me with that? Let me see. I can't see it. I mean, I see it, but I can't read it.

Nope, that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking, you see where the foundation where the gentleman is standing? You represent the guy sitting. So right there. The difference between the land where he's standing and the base of the church. What's the difference in height? Yep, from that, yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Okay, and then, all right.

at this time. Not saying I wouldn't change my mind if we made some changes, but right now, I don't think I can support it.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't want to rehash things. I would just say I would certainly support church use, but the vertical building element term I would use would be the economy of scale seems off with respect to the neighborhood. I don't know how you fix it, but I don't think I can support the building elements that are in front of me tonight.

Now, were you also buying that land across the street? So there's that land across, there's the house, is that Korean?

So one thing I look at is if it were to get approved, if it goes down that way, that we would have to have a crosswalk because you're going to use the parking across the street and all of that. I'm thinking of public safety if this were to go and get approved. I'm looking at this is that area is so much smaller and you're about if you were across the street That's the lots in depth is about 30 feet difference, but you have so much more land To where maybe it doesn't have to be so close to the homes And I'm trying to just come up with some ideas here trying to give some solutions is you're gonn

Go ahead, Commissioner Brady. Go ahead. One thing I do appreciate with what you've done is you've come back this time versus last time. In two weeks, you've accomplished a lot in actually doing what we've asked and giving us more information. So I do appreciate the work that you're putting into that to make sure we understand this better and working with your neighbors.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I saw the neighbor who, when he was asked, when the applicant was asked the difference between the grade from his backyard to the church's, and he said 10 feet. If I can have you come down and then tell us what you think it is.

Well, I did, and I've lost it. Yeah, no, I've lost it. I'm sorry, go ahead.

No, I was just asking. I wanted to know that, and then there was something else, but unfortunately...

Yes. No, I just wanted to say that whatever we do, Commissioner Kirk was talking about the landscaping and stuff. Please, again, I'm gonna just strongly recommend that you talk with the neighbors about whatever kind of tree you're planting, because there are some trees that are messier than others and are more invasive than others. So if you could just do that, or just strongly recommend that you do that, that you work with the neighbor as far as the landscaping goes.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that. With the waivers that have been removed and with the height, we're still not sure what height you're asking for. I mean, if we could say a height, we could get 80, but I don't know what 80 looks like. I don't know if 80 is still too big. I mean, it's certainly smaller than 113 or 112, what you asked for before. But without having, and I would consider this, because of the changes that have been made, this is what we have before us here on my, the documentation I have is almost incomplete. And so I feel like I'm voting on something that I don't know w

commissioner stone uh thank you mr chair i you know it does seem like we're struggling with the height and uh yet we we have the the 95 foot version or the 90 foot version and i i think i would say i'd be much more comfortable something top across at 65 feet and it could be 68 could be a little less a little more but i think that's where I would be more comfortable with the top of the cross. Maybe you get rid of the bell tower element on top of the dome. But I like, the only thing I really like about this line of sight drawing is the line of sight to the two lateral left small domes with the l

You know, my I've been thinking and has been listening to the commissioners where I have thoughts on it. It's not necessarily and for me, it's not necessarily the height of the dome in itself. It's in relativity of the size of the lot is because it's hugging the property line more, which means it's towering over the neighbor more because of. how close it is to the property line. So it's the lot size. We're trying to fit in a huge building within such a small footprint on so close to a lot line. What I would like to see, and something for you to think about, is I've seen when another church has

Sir, there's a handheld if that makes it easier for you. A handheld microphone.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just so I'm clear, this structure was already existing. This was partially existing.

And it was built for the intent of Christina's father? Exactly. Is that correct? Mm-hmm. And now you're coming to get an approval Um, is the current structure there, is it constructed according to our building codes in Clark County?

You guys didn't know? You didn't know you needed a permit to build a building?

Where I come in on this is I'm a big person in trying to keep setbacks. I look down the street and I see that there's some others that I feel like the roof line is hanging past over the sidewalk down the street, which is the reason why I kind of get on this kick where I'm just like, I really don't like to see things go on the property line. This one, there is a setback, I think, on the two feet from the property.

I APPRECIATE WHY IT'S BEING BUILT. AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF LEAVE THIS OVER TO YOU ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRADY. COMMISSIONER KOLORSKI.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURES BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE THOSE BEFORE THE MEETING AND I WASN'T ABLE TO CATCH YOU. MY MAJOR CONCERN is the separation between the house and the structure. Can I get a close-up of that? Do you have a better picture of that?

Okay, so staff, make sure I'm correct in this because I keep getting this messed up. The overhang is what you count for the three feet on both structures, right? So it's from the overhang of the casita to the overhang of the main house. Am I correct? Okay, so if the building itself, sorry, correction, wall to wall, my bad. It's wall-to-wall. Is it wall-to-wall? Wall-to-wall. I just had one that was overhang to overhang. Okay, so now we're talking wall-to-wall.

I'm looking at the overhang from the casita. And do we count it from there to the overhang of the house, of the main house, or do we go? from the wall of the casita to the wall of the house.

Okay, so we're talking wall to wall. So the wall to wall is a three-foot, 3-inch is what you're saying.

Okay. Yeah, I'm not the... The only neighbor that you would really affect is the neighbor that's behind you. Otherwise, your other setback is up against the street. The street, yes. Yeah, so up against Lucky. And still we got approval from support from the people of the street. And you're going to stucco them, you said? Yes, yes. Once everything is done.

Well, that will all come out with the building department, you know. That is correct, yes. That's not part of the zoning type thing. You have to comply with all of whatever the building department tells you to in order to get your permit and in order to get the... And now this is... As I read the background, I said it was for your parents, and you said your father has passed.

Okay, I'm looking at that because I don't want this to become a rental.

Okay. All right, I'm gonna move to approve UC 26-0473 with staff conditions, and I'm going to change the one year. I don't know, I'm gonna go to our resident general contractor, because he seems to know more about how long things take. What, 18 months, two years?

Okay. Change the block number one to two years to complete the building permit. So that's for completion. So that means you've got to commence very quickly.

Yeah, I just have one quick question. Because I too can support the application. But I want to talk about the Hartsgate, because we're talking about the Hartsgate being sites, it's also the side and the front is considered. So when you talk about the side, are you talking about all the way to the back of the house? Or are we talking about to the front gate? I'm trying to figure out.

OK. So that's our standard then is the back of the house? Yes. To the front of the house? Yes.

Okay, because he was talking about hardscape, that's why.

Yeah, because I know it's, what is it, 60?

Okay, I just wanted to have in my mind where I know where you're going to on site, and you're going to the back of the house.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm prepared to make a motion. Are we good? Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think it looks great. You live in Moapa. Did this come to us through a CC Pro violation? No, it didn't. Unbelievable. All right, with that, I'll move to approve item 23 WS-26-0455 with staff if approved conditions.

motion carries good luck thank you if i can just say i'm very glad that you're asking for permission on that uh proposed rv garage next time we don't get that very often so thank you thank you we appreciate it that is final action unless appealed the next item is item number 25 ws26-0458

You have my support just for not starting already. So thank you very much for that.

I looked at the overhead from Google Earth maps, and you got a mess in there. You have got, there's no doubt.

My question is, I don't understand when you say you're going to put the containers underground.

So you're going to have some sort of stairs that go down to where you're digging and the containers are going in?

Okay. I don't understand. When I read this, it sounded like you were going to use the containers as part of your house, kind of like Container Park. Am I correct in understanding that?

Okay, if you look up there, you can see what we're seeing.

Can the guys in the back, can you zoom that up, please?

Let me grab my glasses so I can see that.

So I'm trying to figure out where the, because I think you have more than two containers. And you got a semi-truck there?

Where are you putting the connexes underground at?

So the northeast corner. Okay. staff on the initial because you guys say that this is three years yeah that's the long story no hang on a minute i'm talking okay i'm asking the question of staff um we approved i guess the existing garage with the intent that the dwelling would be built we still don't have any permits um Did we give a commence or a completion date on previous? Usually we see previous conditions.

I don't know. I don't know if I can support this, because I don't know how long it's going to take. And I do not, I do not, and I have not, including my area, because I've denied a couple of applications, where they want to build accessory structures prior to the primary. Can I just finish, please? With that in mind, I also have plans that You as an applicant will show this board so that we can see what the long-range goal is. I see nothing there. So I'm having a lot of difficulty because I don't know what your plans are. I don't know if this is going to stay. It's going to take you more than

And was there an extension of time? Or has that expired? No. So then the initial one has since expired. So you did not come in for the extension of time to keep that application going?

One thing I want to mention, you said you were going to bury these. I caution you and look into this. Oh, you're not going to bury... For some reason, I thought you said you were going to bury these containers. And I'll tell you, I've looked into doing that myself before. So be careful with that because they are used to carrying the weight at the corners. They're not necessarily meant to carry weight in the center. So they will collapse. So, all right. That's what I just want to throw out as caution.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The problem I have... uh... primarily is the fence because you're asking uh... for existing walls to eight feet or six feet is the maximum height allowed by code and i'm looking at uh... google earth and An eight foot and I would like it if your wall that you build would match what your neighbors have and that you're on a corner lot and neither of the of the your next door neighbors. I mean one neighbor looks like he has about a four foot wall and the other guy looks like he has maybe a five foot wall so that could be a little problematic in the transition from And we

Okay, good. So there's just some things I'm just not 100% sure of. And so I don't know, I don't want to deny it. But until we have more concrete information, I don't know how we move this forward. So I'm looking for some help.

Town Board had some recommendations. Can you tell us if you're agreeable to at least look at them?

One thing I'm going to notice, if that were to go through, I see these hammerheads aren't perfectly in line. So that might need to be something that could actually be done if we were to actually, and if that's something they're saying they would do, they would need to align.

Okay, thank you. Tony, if I could have you just move to the left.

Commissioner Kowalski. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to say thank you to the residents that it's been a long time. I know you've been here a couple times. But I have to agree with them, Tony. You know, the day of, to me, is not good. even if they're local, that the day of is not a good time. I think that if nothing else, 24 hours is much better. So just down the road for any project, if we can go there. But thank you for coming down and for being a part of this. I appreciate it. Thank you, Commissioner Kolarski. Commissioner Stone?

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Tony, just go to the left a little bit. I can do a little analog research here. I know that everybody didn't speak, but for those that are here from Moapa in opposition to the assignment, if you could just raise your hand for a minute. So, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, what is there, 11 or 12 of you? For the record, we have 12 folks show up. I know you didn't all speak, but I wanted to get that on the record. That's number one. Number two, I think, I think collectively there's been a not ideal process by the applicant in keeping the residents i

or day 35, let us know so we can let the residents know because next time there might be 50 people protesting this. I mean, I think that's what I'm trying to get at is proactive courtesy to the residents so they know what's going on. And if it has to extend to 60 days, let's figure that out, not the day of.

Okay, and lastly make sure you're working with the commissioners office on Anything new any ideas with that unless we have yeah Commissioner stone before you make a motion to hold great Commissioner Kirk Thank you for my vote and my support You've got to have significant open space Maybe some kind of a trail system And please do not ask my support for a 3.3 zone because I'm not supporting that. Just for future reference, if it's not 6,000 square foot loss, I'm not supporting it. I'm not. So you can take that back and you can get all the support you need from everybody else, but that's where I'

Thank you, Mr. Chair. All right, with that, let's go ahead and do a motion to hold for 45 days. What planning commission would that be, staff?

Okay, perfect. So we have a motion I'm gonna make to hold item 37, 38, 39, and 40. Motion to hold for 45 days to date specific November 3rd. We'll see you then.

Chair, can I recognize the resident from Overton?

Thank you, Mr. Chair. You know, I've been on this board a long time and for a period of time, we were getting a lot of commercial right here south of Sahara, north of Laredo, and it was determined not written in stone but it was uh inferred i guess that we should not bring any commercial type of zoning below laredo that laredo should be the boundary now why the churches lot that they want to build their their church on is zone commercial neighborhood I don't remember that. The church is zoned residential. Is it zoned, the one that's north of this property? Yes. Okay, there it is, it's resident

The land use then is CN. For the church or for this property? For the church.

It's zoned residential, but the land use is?

As what? Ranch estate. Why do I see? Okay. Oh, I'm looking at the other. I'm looking at something different. Okay. But I don't want to see commercial south of Laredo. I'm going to be very honest, any type of zoning south of Laredo or any type of land use south of Laredo. You start going down and then it's going to start taking everything north of Eldorado or Eldora Avenue. And I don't want to see that happen. We just start to pick and pick and pick and pick. So I cannot support this. Well, it's not as intrusive as it could be, but definitely going to a CG zoning is the most intense, and anythi

Just remember, though, you may not keep that forever, and as Mr. Wankler said,

the zoning stays forever yes ma'am thank you commissioner klarski commissioner brady um one thing i want to mention is last time we in our last planning meeting we had the water district here and one thing they talked about is hardscape and asphalt and all these different things which brings heat to the neighborhoods and all of that i i would look at this if this were to be approved i would hope that would be some type of shaded trees or something in this more of the center throughout it to try to cool things down because that would be causing heat to come through the neighborhoods that are ju

Thank you. So if they go commercial, they're going to be required to put in detached sidewalks?

They are showing that they are putting them in. On the west side and the east side?

Just on the west side? Correct. Okay. Thank you. I guess my question then is for Rob. Is there a legal way that we can change the zoning and yet restrict it to outdoor storage of vehicles as described by the applicant?

Would that be something that the applicant would have to do on their own?