City Council - public_hearing

We'll have the Pledge of Allegiance by Major Raymond Maycock of the North Miami Police Department, followed by invocation by Pastor Geraldine Whitaker of the New Way Holiness Outreach Ministry. And then we'll get into the hearing for today. Thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you so much, Pastor. I think we have everybody here.

Okay thank you and then we'll move to tab a.

Thank you so much, madam clerk. Mister attorney, I'm sorry, madam manager. How do we move? Do we is a discussion on what we do open into public hearing I can't recall. Yeah, I'm not OK well. I think we already did yes, since we already know we did not increase the myth the military the property taxes went on with the property assessment of the city. Hello, vice mayor. For the record, I have and he's nice mayor arriving at 5.10PM yeah. So public hearing is open on top a public hearing this is just a millage rate. Seeing none public hearing is close since we already so motion to approves move fo

Thank you so very much. Tab be there. Public hearing is open on tab be you mean to be the whole thing. Fixing them public in his clothes. Madam manager any.

Thank you so much Madam Manager and now do we let me ask a quick question before we go to this is the proposed budget when would she do the CFO will do the presentation would it be after do we put on this Mr. Attorney and then we do tab C and then she could do that? The now and then we'll take on top seat with the in okay perfect. I'm really is it's all yours. Music.

Thank you, Ms. Reyes-Santana. We do have, so this is the actual budget, and I do not know how my colleagues wants to do this this year um i mean we have extensive i have had extensive conversation with with staff in terms of and i know we had our budget workshop so i don't know how we'd um would want to do this um or do we just do we open it for and i'm looking for suggestion do we open it for public hearing and then we get into it. I think that might be best. So public hearing is open on tab B, which is the actual budget. So public hearing is open. And we have two mics. Guys, this is the actu

Okay, Mr. Garrett. It's Mayor DeSomme. Go ahead, ma'am.

There's two mics. If you're planning on speaking on this item, please use the other one as well.

But no one was found guilty. To say someone was found guilty, that is incorrect. There was no criminal conviction. So if we were found guilty, we would be removed from office. So I just wanted to correct your statements because it could be defamatory.

There's a couple of things before we get into the discussion of the budget I wanted to address. First and foremost, there isn't any increase in terms of our budget. This is the same millage rate we had last year. What this is saying that there has been an increase in the property values. Countywide it's not that we there's an increase in Your taxes in terms of that it's it's been I think we've been having the same rate for the past three or four years Whatever the five five years on Thank You councilwoman, so there isn't no increase. That's number one in terms of and that all of us decided tha

Yes, thank you for that clarification, and that just goes to my point. We don't want to be here on Friday, but there are certain things, and by law, we had to start the meeting. That's why I was the only one up there. Councilwoman was in her office, and Kevin was right there, and then the attorney said, just open it at 5 or 1. We must, by state law, state statute, start the meeting at 5 or 1. So that much I know in terms of that. So it's not something that I know that we did intentionally or trying to get folks to come. But again, it's my understanding and always has been, by the time this get

No we went with your we we should be. I think you had the meeting you shared your notes with my office, but we didn't court name we didn't have that mean no no we I we had the meeting in terms of that in wheat what we're going to do on Monday all of the departments that need to be there and we invited Gabby in terms of the summary.

What we had the I'll I'll let my I'll I'll deal with that when you. So you want one you can have your well to the manager. Not include get be just make sure that I'm aware.

OK so perfect so we'll make sure that a manager we share with the vice mayor in terms of what's happened what what happened and it's some residents who contacted my office it's been months and I They've been working back and forth, and they actually scheduled the meeting earlier this week. And when we went out, obviously there were some other departments, some stuff that came out, we were not aware. So these things come on a daily basis as we try to serve the folks in North Miami. There is some questions, Madam Manager, that was mentioned, and before we open it up in terms of the the flat came

CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, MANAGER? EVERYONE LIKES TO SAY WE HAVE A WIFI LOAN THAT WE LOST.

And how much is that? Right. So where did this $200 million number come from in reference to the WIFI alone? Could you explain that $200 million?

No, no, no, Madam Manager, and I think we've gone into a gray area that I don't think you fully was here. I think to clarify some of these issues, yes, we know exactly the process that you explained. in terms of yes it is an invitation that we had to apply for the loan but I think some of them were in terms of where we were in the process and and how we got there and that's a whole discussion and I don't think this platform this is the right as we're dealing with the budget although that for us to even discuss that but I think we all remain committed in terms of making sure that we are going t

um had begun with the city and so now we do need to have a formal relationship if they would like to be a vendor thank you for that because i was a little taken back also because i was under the impression it was um discretionary money that we we gave them and so i i didn't really know i think that the federal government took their money away or trump oh um so yeah please come on yeah no okay yeah i think this administration has taken away every you know yes We kind of especially with the you know doing the environment work, but I was not under the impression make some change and I think the m

Which community? When you say the community. Acena.

One person, please. So... If the homeowners, so they approve it. And we don't want to have, I just wanted some clarification because we have a long meeting. But thank you. Thank you both. Thank you so much.

Yeah, she just said to you, we didn't know anything about it, that we'll work and we'll do what we do. Because we didn't know anything about it. you know, Arch Creek, you know, the homeowners authorized, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Thank you so much. Excuse me? No, no, no, no, no, no. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you, ma'am. Have a good one. Thank you. All right. So what we will do in terms of... I think I addressed the flat cameras. I addressed the quality of life. Someone mentioned the Nomi Fest, the $800,000. First and foremost, they talked about, I don't have nothing in

madam manager i do want to take the time to thank your administration for hosting the budget town hall meetings not only did we have them in person in every single district we also did it virtually and i know not that many folks attended i think i received one email as it related to the budget but i do periodically like to meet with residents to hear their feedback and so forth My first question, did your administration determine the fiscal impact if Amendment 3 passes? What is that implication to the city? I know it's not for this budget year, but for future budget years.

with the impact is so that's going to be a negative 5, negative 7 that we will potentially lose if Amendment 3 passes. Yes. Okay. Thank you. My next question was, how many new positions were added to this budget?

Oh, because now we're extending it. Yeah, we're extending the hours.

Thank you. The landscaping budget, this was one area where we, this was before you, we've had lengthy discussions about including additional services to whichever contractor we select. I think you have to put that out there. But in this budget, did you increase it or did you keep it the same?

Okay, I mean and we have an amendment to that one for our next one. Okay, traffic circles, how much should we budget in this year for traffic circles. So it wasn't for traffic circles because remember traffic calming devices. Yeah, we're not putting the holes.

thank you madam manager um budget director cfo and y'all been working at this this for a long time yes we did have a lot of community meetings out there i think i went to three of the four and listened to what the residents were asking about Listen to what the residents did not want to have in our budget and where they thought our priorities should be. I have a couple questions for the manager just in general before I go on under the building department. There's the the the 2.6 million is that toward the purchase of a of a building that we've been talking about. That that's the fun that's been

The question in the 6.18 the parks and rec. Community projects what what you can you go to the page number please it's it's throughout the parks, it's identified a couple times it's 6.18 parks and other community projects that's on page. One 20 of on page one 20 and then it appears again and another part. It's just that division is 618 and it pops up a couple places. And what does other community projects mean? Because when you... The young page one 21 20 is one of them I know and then there's it shows up again under 6.20, I mean 6.18 somewhere else.

You're on the one page is 650,000 and another page it has some money so that is like a catch all unidentified projects or identify, but we don't want the cost of them yet.

Okay. Thank you. In the reference to an item you have under centennial it has a $500,000 this past year we gave you the mission we budgeted a $1,000,000 for the centennial events and then 500,000 was taken out to do the new features with which most people very like them a lot. And then we had other events that took place which I'm sure cut into the money so is this 500,000 new money to that Centennial category or is it what the money was left over that we did not spend as a million dollars this year and what was that money coming from.

in order to get all of the wayfaring we're trying to do that um piecemeal and have some additional signage right and that's where you're expecting that money to go okay to anything else that continues from centennial and for signage okay i noticed that last year and we've had this discussion but i want to get it on the record there's no money in this budget this year for the stadium bleachers allocated as a standalone item for the stadium bleachers. But last year we did allocate, I believe, $200,000 in there, but I don't know if we spent any of that and it just came back to the general fund.

And some of these are for clarification for the public and just so everybody knows what's going on. before I get into it. Under public works, I think the format of this book is a little bit different than it has been in the past and so you got to look around a little bit and it's not as detailed as i i thought but under public works last year we would see street resurfacing streets striping sidewalk striping and at a time you would divide it up by districts i know you put it all in one lump sum and went to wherever the priorities were but where would i find the striping fund the sidewalk fund

Are they at about the same level as last year or did they get decreased the what we're going to do on us resurfacing striping and sidewalk.

Okay, yeah, so that this is new money that you're allocating yeah, this is new money that we're allocating to that but we're still completely have money left over from this year that if you don't get something completed.

Okay, very good. What's the policy? I know sometimes when we do replacement vehicles, If you drive by the motor pool, you'll see lots of police cars damage and you'll sees a couple other utility trucks damage here and there. So if we allocate in the budget that we're going to purchase 4 new police cars for the year because of rotation and then 2 of them get totaled out within the course of the year and especially if they're brand new ones do we replace those 2 and then continue on replacing the 4 or you know, two damaged cars and we were allocated four and that's it. And the two damaged ones j

Okay. All right. Thank you. Clean team. Is that funded at a CRA or just our general fund also?

And whether it needs to be enhanced or not, I don't know. I'm going to jump over to the traffic devices, the common devices. I know you have a plan. I know we're getting ready to install some now. You have money for next year, $600,000, about that. My thought is that the more we can do with the humps, because that's the majority of the ones that are in the plan, the calming devices, the black rubber things as opposed to the circles, If we tried to knock out more of those humps over a larger portion of the city, because those circles eat up $100,000, they eat up about $100,000, $200,000 a circl

All right now let me go I'm going to we're going to jump into the an area. Under the parks under special events city events is just my opinions there's going to be consensus. I I find that. 3 million dollars just in general for special events is a lot but a lot of very worthwhile just casually looking at it. um my opinion there's about 1.2 million dollars that or maybe even more that i don't find necessary and again it's my opinion and i will um like to talk to you about that or your conveyment We were special events we have the fireworks were under contract we have the celebration expenses fo

I would rather write a check to the water department for $100,000 or $150,000 and not do the festival, but take a line item because we'll save $650,000 over... spending 800 000 to to raise 150 000 for a a one one-time event i can't get bleacher seats at you know 800 600 a million dollars but a one-day event as a that could pay 75 of it or 80 of it as opposed to bleachers that are going to last for the next 30 years um i i This category is writing the ad for why people should vote yes on property tax reduction. I'm not in favor of it, but this type of spending, people are going to say, why am I

Okay. I'll come back to that that comment is actually I'll touch it now. It's the perception and I do the shamrock the block. I take sponsorships and I take it out of my discretionary money and I don't really use any city staffing or or But I don't have anything line item out in there. But if you take the events one by one and look at it and what is your return, your number of people that participate, do we need three Mother's Day events by three different individuals or do you have it as one that is one that is put on by the city of North Miami and not any individual council member if it's co

Okay that makes sense. I think I'll be done one more item I think You have a $171,000 in the for the for the for the the mocha bathrooms. Which is great they need to be renovated but at the tennis courts we have $260,000 for the bathrooms and if you ever been to the tennis courts and saw the size of their bathrooms and been to the bathroom situated here and mocha they're they're totally 2 different mochas much nicer and larger and so forth um but the discrepancy of almost a hundred thousand dollars of what it's going to cost to renovate them it caught me by a little surprise 260 000 to renovat

That's all I have for now right now Mister mayor.

Okay, thank you Councilman Burns and Councilman Charles.

Thank you very much Mayor. Madam Manager, thank you. Our CFO and the whole budget team. Just want to say thank you to each and every one of you. Bear with my voice. I see that Mr. CA, you're looking at me. I am not 100%. So I'll be better for our second budget hearing, but I didn't want to stay in bed and not come in to do my job. I had a procedure on Monday, so just bear with me. So I'm okay. Now, quickly, Madam Manager, just want to say thank you for the hard work. I said it to our CFO. I know it took a lot of time, sleepless nights to put this budget together. And I just want to thank you a

Yeah, with the tree planting, I've been trying to fix that like four or five times. The money was not about the grant. It was money budgeted for our tree planting because every time, you know, the kind of trees and everything with the grant, you're like set to some type of trees and trees that I don't want to put in District 4 because those are the trees that are killing our sidewalks and everything, give us all kind of works and goes into our... residential Residents house and everything they've been complaining. I don't want to see them That's why I want to some like more trees out being bea

Thank you. And Madam, I am not going to only bring my grievances, which are not just mine. Those are basic notes that I took from the meeting at the JCC when the residents were there. I am going to tell you that I also want to be thankful for all the work that you and your administration have done in District 4. For example, looking at Pepper Park, we're not exactly where I would love to be, but I just want to say that You guys have been up to the challenge. Paper Park has been clean. Guys keep it up. The grass looks very nice. And working there just give me kind of the push that I need to do

yeah yeah yeah now we'll talk about that so that is that is my um my advice as i said uh i am not going down the list tonight and everything and a lot of pointers that i have they've been already raised there's no need for us to go to that i know it's going to be a long night but um as i said uh if we go back and revise um our page 154 of the budget And, you know, I look at this money just into street resurfacing, sidewalks and everything. I think it would be a better way to invest our money than everything else that I saw in here. And with that, I'll stop and take a little break for just a wo

Okay, Councilwoman Irving, everybody stay put. We are going to be here for a long night. It's my understanding. But go ahead. Yeah, no, he just announced it, because we have to give them direction and go. Because second budget, it's... By the time we get to the second budget, it should already been... We got to... LEGISLATED AND TELL THEM WHAT WE NEED SO WE HEAR SOME OTHER STUFF SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS EASY SECOND ONE WILL BE VERY EASY WILL BE IN AND OUT BUT TONIGHT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE SOME STUFF BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET THAT THEY PRESENT TO US I'M SORRY GO AHEAD COUNCI

Good evening, everyone. Again, I want to echo a similar sentiment by saying thank you to the administration, to the finance budget department for taking the time to educate the audience and the effort that was made to get everyone to come out. I know on top of your effort, I made additional effort to get folks out. but like you've heard tonight and about the water plant off obviously that's very important and i understand that right now we do not have the funding for that but can you tell me what dollars or are set aside to maintain the water plant now what's that amount in the budget to maint

and okay, I'll move on what about for a drainage in in particular what is the dollar amount that's been set aside for sewer and and and and and stormwater.

Right, so let me be more specific. It's a District 3.

Okay, when so there's money in the budget to address and the same yes, that's already an ongoing project. All right for the senior program. We are now at 3 days to is there an extension of days for senior program.

Also can you just give it an update on and Cagney Park and where we are and where we are with that here. And in terms of what fundings are still available or or what you have put in this budget for so Cagney Park.

Okay have another question in human resources, there's a salary study of 25,000 is that something that we put in the book every year or is just this year we're trying to do a salary study.

Oh can you though the waste pro scholarship. Is this I don't know why this is the first of them catching that.

AND WHAT IS THAT SCHOLARSHIP USE WHAT DOES IT GO TOWARDS? It's a scholarship.

It's in our community benefits agreement. Who's been a recipient of the wasteful scholarship in the past?

OK that's what I wanted to know so they they and that that those dollars go to the North Miami Foundation, yes, OK and it's part of the way for the scene always go OK got it. Oh so the tuition reimbursement for employees that's that's $50,000 period right for all of the employees. Yes.

that's that's all my question for now thank you all right thank you so much councilwoman um estimator irving and all of my colleagues um some of the issues that i've heard today and i wanna the reason i say you know it wasn't the intent to go um department by department um i had that was not the intent but obviously some of my colleagues had different things and i did not expect that because i i do think this has been a long budget process and being out in the community folks um you know would say whatever they needed from the council person and or they they may they may say it at these budget

Well, I don't want to do that, Vice Mayor. But who's requesting it up here?

He made some comments, Councilman Charles made some comments. So what I think we could do, Vice Mayor.

Because I know normally what we do is we'll come back, we'll give our changes to the man and manager, she'll prepare a change memo, and then if we need to vote it up or down at the next budget hearing, we vote it up or down. but this is the first time we're seeing that.

That's what I thought that we were going to do, but they had specific line items and specific things that they would like to see in terms of cut. If we're going to do that, then I wasn't open to- Can we do that through the manager? i mean we can but they would not they wouldn't well no the manager normally comes back with a change memo that it will be available to the public so either way we could do it tonight or on the on the 15th i'm i'm more going towards the 15th but i would like to if what i'm asking and i i probably will take your lead on this not necessarily to do it department by depa

I think that's proper. Which is fine, but I wanted to hear the specific because last time we did that and I started getting texts, oh, I didn't know they did backroom deals. But the change memo is posted on the agenda, is it not?

Vice Mayor. This was even on you know we had the workshops we had these in all I'm saying I'm not asking that we do line by line, but if they are you clear on the specific the councilman talked about because I could talk about some specific to and then we call it a day.

To make it more easy since Nomi Fest is one of my stuff. And I did propose if we're not going to do it, I don't think we do all of them, but I don't think that's the fair way. So let's just say we have $600,000. So you've got $200,000 on the side to do that. So that's the type of back and forth where the public knows. We kind of know what's going on instead of... Because I don't want to... You do the memo with us and we come here on the 15th or you post it and people don't have time to read it. A lot is going on in the world. And then you're like, well, you know, you guys did this. So those ar

Okay, I don't know what I said from the onset of the meeting when I you give you the Mike is that I am going to waste myself. get ready for a long night out of second budget here that's uh basically that was my point because uh you're healed yes uh because i'll be i'll be fully healed and and i can get a long night but my only point was that let's see if we can do more in terms of um our infrastructure and everything in this budget. I know it's a tough year. We basically cut everything, cut here, cut there. But let's see if we can do something for, you know, for the city. It's our centennial.

Since I kind of started some of the conversations off some of the events that are stables of the community 4th of July Memorial Day.

I'm perfectly fine cutting every single event.

CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, YOU NAME IT, EVERYTHING ACROSS THE BOARD, TAKE THAT $3 MILLION AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ACROSS THE BOARD. WE'RE ALREADY CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED FOR BREWFEST. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE UNDER A DIFFERENT CONTRACT, NOT PART OF OUR...

Yes, okay fine and and the or that that's one concept across the board or go back and see how much you can actually slice and dice on some of this stuff and here's another strange thing. Allocate an additional special event. dollar amount to the individual council member and mayor whether it's 50,000 or 75,000 they pick and choose if they want to do 4th of July that not for the time now Father's Day Mother's Day barbecues whatever as a separate thing if to get together. or three of us get together and and and put a bigger program together that's fine but yeah so we can either wipe out every si

But it's not only that area, and that's not fair. If you're going to cut the events, which is fine, we've got to look at everything. So this is what I'm saying. We cannot come here and then we have $230-something million, including the enterprise and everything, so whatever the case is. And you're talking about, oh, let's cut $3 million because that's going to make me happy, and then you have $100 million. I mean, we've got to be...

If that makes Mister marriage yesterday to counter what you're saying I'm not going to tell public works how much because I don't know what a storm drain I don't know what a what whatever the storm I'm not going to tell it what they need and don't need because that's not what what I do because they know the crux there the professionals being paid to work with the departments, the managers being paid to work the departments. The thing that we have a lot of say in, because a lot of us are encouraging, great showing off the city, which is amazing, some people enjoy it, but That's the easiest thin

The thing that was not to interrupt, but that's a false, that's a false narrative because $76 million of it is the police department and the water plants, all this money. But when you come down to the crux of the little bit of money that we actually can play with, it's a very, very, very little amount that we have discretion because of the salaries and the pension, all that's built in. And that's $200,000 before we even look at the pages. And so that's all I'm saying is that, so yeah, the budget overall is massive, but guess what? We don't really have discretion over the whole. You do, you do.

It cannot be, and that's not right. If we're going to be honest, if we want to do political stuff, that's fine. But Councilman Burns and you, our former mayor, you do have rights to do that. Your rights, if you think that this department is true, we could do that. You don't have to be an expert. The folks voted you in, and that's the purpose, to guide this budget. proposed the budget to us. We are the final, once we voted on it, it's our budget. This is her proposal. So if you think something is too high, you don't have to be an expert. We're not asking you to go into public works. So IT could

Like like I said that we could have we haven't you know, no events or whatever so you still have a 200 million dollar, but you can continue with that on her budget and what the Department of the they're doing amazing things they've done a lot of stuff in the department you can see the transformation or a parks evasives are coming and it's amazing what the managers been able to do so far with what she has good, however. I went through every single budget line and what's appropriate from from an educated guess and stormwater and and community planning and housing and so forth and how they're spe

Councilman, we did that last year. We gave $300,000 that we allocated because we didn't have it last year.

We're still ahead of the game today. No, we're not.

Let me tell you what's happening and what's going on in terms of outside. Yeah, but like you said, when I said the folks who actually does the event, the staff, so obviously you said some folks care about that or promoting North Miami, that's not you. Like I said, we all here, we all have a priority. We all have what we think is important. And we could do that. And we could have that conversation about everything. But if we're going to do that, we need to be fair. I do not want us to come in and say, oh, we're going to cut this event, and then the administration could do whatever they need, a

But I agree. I think at least the requests that were important to D1, the manager was able to do some of them. And I see some things that other districts have wanted. They're in the budget. It makes sense. But other things, not that she told me, listen, you have to wait till next year. I'm not getting, not me, the city's not getting bleachers to restore the high school. We're in violation of our joint agreement with the school board because not having the bleachers. And remember, we've already spent $1.2 million and have nothing. If it is to have $800,000 for a one-day event or $800,000 toward

take everything for you know that we need to do but that's it but yes sir um you know to that i don't foresee like we just sitting here and go department by department for example police what are you going to say you know they even even they have all that money they need more money because they've been doing a great job keeping us safe we need to make sure we take care of them code we need to find a little bit more money to add into code because we have uh especially in district four i have a lot of um elderly residents who can even no longer cut their um grass so when that happened if we add

Thank you so much, Councilman. I think you made my point. And Vice Mayor and I was trying to get out of this. And yes, we could do that. But unless we're being specific in terms of what he just talked about, I met with housing maybe six months ago. And we worked on different programming that we would like to have. Hopefully, it's already in here. and yes i think it was um miss brazil i think it was the day before this week i said please resend me the the budget that we talked about so those programs um councilmen that you are mentioned those are the things that we need to talked about I think

you know if we're saying code enforcement there's a is there a program how much that program going to be you know and and manager i think we have to give it some time mayor i think if we're going to give the manager direction maybe we give her a dollar amount to stick with them but i think um i think the madam madam manager i think you're aware you're going to cut this page and you're going to come down with the change member from it

But let me ask this, Vice Mayor, because it's... Because I don't think we're going to find the consensus now.

I think the Madam Manager, if she can, you know, she'll have her discussion with all five of us and we'll, you know, we'll all say what needs to be cut and she'll say, hey, this is what it is.

Yeah, but once we get here on the 15th... We'll have a change memo a couple of days prior. So... Let me ask you this. Let me ask this question. So are we all in agreement that... into cutting all of the events so at least she'll know and then that's that or are we telling her to cut some of the um you know dollar amount from the event so let's just be clear on that and i'm good if where you know if it's three million she has then i'll know when i'm when i'm talking to her the reason i i want more direction so that i'll know if i'm talking to her i could have a i don't think i don't think you h

So if we all identify Madam Manager where, you know, like I know I said landscaping, some people said other things. I think she took notes. And then from there, she's going to present a change memo. But I think we have to give the manager and the CFO that ability to do so because the 15th will be the meeting where we say, hey, yay or nay, up or down. And that's what it'll be. Okay.

because I was trying to make that fast, but I think her suggestion you got him out of that. So it's it's consents that we are not it we in consensus we got to not a man.

Yes, sir, good with a overall cut percentage wise and that city offense as you know it eliminate it all together. One way or the other, I don't care. If you cut everything there by 50%, that's a start. That's a start. But whatever, I'm just saying, we're looking for reductions or re-reduction across the board. you get the gif like the councilwoman said and you talk to all of us every other day uh and so you uh kind of get the the direction that we're we're going and so what's the scenario if on the 15th we uh don't agree on the budget can we schedule a third budget

No, no, no, no, no. We're going to pass it on the 15th. We'll be here to file it.

If you don't pass or buzz it, it goes as is. Yeah, we had three. I remember I had three also my first year here as city clerk. So I think we're good. And community members, this is your time to reach out to your specific council members or me if you need things to be added. So it seems like we might have a little bit of money. But I'm opposed in terms of that. So My right to prove to know. Yes, I'm so moved. Thank you are the other Council members here and I know. Yeah, we are we on top of you we got to get to the top seat, yes, that was the week to the other one moment do we not want to call

First time there there's 2 people there know they'll they'll get to come out of that they they need to be here to vote that they will get that they will get their vote yes please is going to read it yes.

okay um thank you type c um public hearing is open on type c this is for our reserve But I have a question about a manager now what I would like to see now that we we do have this you my biggest at ask is you put something in. This in the next in the reserve which was not on the table but since you're going to have about 1 to 2 million dollars but a little bit not not all I'm not saying all of it.

Now what you asked for 3 million and we were going to put 2 million in the reserve and now you're putting 2.5 that's good.

No, that is good. No, no, no, we said 2.5. It wasn't 2 million. It was 2.5. No, what I'm saying is, now that we have a...

A million let's just say so if it's a 100,000 whatever at least what we said first we would determine you know and we said code and some other places and so forth so I guess that the discussion could yeah, I was going to get every day don't go nowhere matter manager put in the reserve. I say if no one gives you suggestions where to yeah, we put in the reserve for in a reason that sounds good, but I know I have some landscape request just as we do to meet about this one's for the 2.5.

Yes, but what we saying yes, so it's been moving second and so. I'm saying we have money so that's reason let's put some in the reserve since.

The other reading thing else now I think it wasn't Roger most to adjourn and I'll see everyone on the night and then on the 15th.