City Council - Regular Meeting

Welcome, everyone. I now call the September 1st, 2026 regular city council meeting to order. We're going to start by taking a moment to take a roll call of the council members by position number. Please stay here when the city clerk calls your name.

Thank you so much. First up on our agenda is meeting agenda approval. First part of that is the city manager review of the agenda. City manager.

Thank you. Next up is council approval of agenda. Does anybody have any changes they'd like to propose to the agenda? I say we've had like a month to get it out of our system, so I'm not expecting any tonight. Next up is public engagement opportunities. Sustainamania returns September 26th. Sustainamania, our annual sustainability festival, returns for its 14th year. Join this free family-friendly festival to celebrate the everyday actions we can all take to lead a more sustainable life and build lasting change. That's Saturday, September 26th from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. right here at Bothell City

Thank you, Mayor. Whereas suicide remains the 10th leading cause of death in the United States and over 49,000 people died by suicide in 2025, an estimated one death every 11 minutes. And whereas suicide was the second leading cause of death among individuals between the ages of 10 to 14 and 25 to 34, the third leading cause of death among individuals between the ages of 15 and 24, and the fourth leading cause of death among individuals between the ages of 35 and 44. And whereas suicide rates in Washington state have increased by 12% over the last 20 years and have been higher than the nationa

Thank you. And we've got some, and actually, just so you all know how this is going to go, after each proclamation, we're going to have somebody come up to accept the proclamation and say a few words. And then if you want a picture after that, at the end, we can all come down and we can do a picture. And first up, we've got some representatives from NAMI Eastside to come accept the National Suicide Prevention Week proclamation. Yes. Hit the red button. Oh, Becky's got you. All right.

To the folks that are here to accept the proclamation for National Preparedness Month, I'm sorry, you have to go after that. Whereas National Preparedness Month is observed throughout the United States each September to raise awareness about the importance of preparing for emergencies and disaster to keep families and communities safe, And whereas the City of Bothell recognizes that natural and human-made disasters of all sorts may occur at any time and cause significant disruptions and impacts to the Bothell community. And whereas research shows informed community preparedness is critical to

Next up is the Bernadette Bascom Day proclamation, and I'm going to turn it over to Council Member Miles. You guys are going to make the emergency management folks feel bad.

Hey, Ms. Bascom, let us read the proclamation first, okay?

I met you for like two minutes, and I would never tell you to sit down.

I'll read it to you. Whereas Bernadette Bascom, a treasured member of the Bothell community, has dedicated her tremendous musical career to the entertainment industry and now dedicates the same talent to helping our children find their own voices. And whereas Ms. Bascom holds the distinction of having been the first artist signed to Stevie Wonder's Black Bull music label in 1980, yes, And over the course of a celebrated career, has shared stages with Stevie Wonder, Elton John, Ashford and Simpson, Al Green, and Frankie Valli, releasing the beloved Pacific Northwest anthem, Seattle Sunshine, in

And real quick, I just wanted to say that I appreciate your work, especially around neurodivergent folks, because there's a whole lot of neurodivergence up on this dais, myself included. And I got to meet Bernadette for just a couple of minutes earlier today, and you can see that look in her eye, and I don't really know what it is. It's like that thing. It's some combination of like wisdom, joy, and passion. And it was really easy to see why you packed the room today.

All right, so we're gonna hop down and we're gonna take some pictures. And I think we will try to do the proclamations in order. And maybe we should just go out there and take pictures instead of having everybody come up here for Bernadette and the Bascombs. I just made that up. Yeah, I mean, that's who we've got right here.

All right, welcome back. Next up is public comment. Welcome back. Next up is public comment. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that we are in election season and there are certain campaign-related restrictions regarding public comment on ballot measures. Public speakers generally cannot specifically address a campaign or ballot measure at a public meeting or during the public comment period. RCW 29B45101 prohibits government agencies from allowing the use of public facilities directly or indirectly for campaign purposes. Allowing speakers to speak in favor or in opposition to a ball

Thank you very much. All right, next up is our report section, and first up is the city manager report and presentations.

Thank you. Thanks for the update, Christian. I appreciate the note that reports will continue until housing improves. I wanted to ask, you mentioned national average 1%, 2% is high growth. Do you happen to know about the cities around us or roughly around Seattle and their percentages? Or is that something that's even possible to get?

Yeah, I appreciate it just because I think it's interesting knowing that this last round of planning was kind of one of the first ones with teeth. But I also wouldn't want you to spend like so much time on that, that you're not doing the rest of your job. So helpful, but not like super required. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you for this report. This is really great. And you can keep coming back because you can. And we won't let you not. Quick question on slide six. You said these are current projects in permitting. Are these active projects, correct?

Council Member Curd. Thanks. Thank you for the presentation. I find it really useful to get a tracking on... the sort of experiment that we run from policy to see how it filters down into the real world. You mentioned that about 30% of the projects are subject to the minimum density standards that we've set. In the future, I'd like to understand whether those peaks look different between translating between early permitting to late or if we're finding that people are throwing mud on the wall and then finding minimum density to be a huge barrier so I'd like to get more information on as time go

Thank you, Mayor. Overall, this summer, Washington real estate cooling down. A lot of us know. I'm sure Council Member Alcabara can give more data. When I'm looking at the slide, building permits, could you please explain a little more on 2026? So this is YTD. Is it year-to-date until like August or July? slide 11, where it is quite low.

I'm personally a bit skeptical about all the real estate market. It's moving to the buyers market and the rental. So I'm just wondering how we are anticipating. I think you have great statistics, but based on what is happening and the interest rates are going to go up, most likely interest rates are going to go up and inflation is still high. I just wanted to know, are we anticipating the same numbers next year based on what you're showing on the graph at this moment?

Sure, sure. No, no, I understand. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I want to be wrong, but it looks like overall market is quite uphill, I think, and especially a lot of technology companies also not hiring and a lot of, you know, layoffs or whatnot. We also depend upon a lot of tech jobs. So I'm trying to see, I mean, how we as a city also trying to embrace all these changes that are happening, interest rates or inflation or whatnot. Yeah, that's all. Thank you.

Thank you. Thanks for being here, for doing these updates. We enjoy and appreciate them, so it's not a chore for us. It might feel like one for you, but we really do appreciate it. And I definitely appreciate how you've broken it down by current projects. so we might be seeing some names of projects that are new to us that weren't on the last update and so to hear you say that there is a variety of housing types coming on board is there one that you believe is particularly innovative that might be new on the radar?

Very cool. So it sounds like that project on 101st is sort of an example to others and people are seeing what's possible. I really do think that being able to build to the needs of the market is a lot of what the affordable housing crisis is all about. That recognizing that, sure, the market may be able to support only luxury homes, but we also have needs of our community at other levels. price points, um, and at other stages of life for people. And so, um, I'm always going to be really excited when you, when you send, you know, share with us a starter home option, um, that is being built in B

I have a couple quick questions. I'm going to kind of just start off with the minimum density. Like, are we tracking, because obviously you're having conversations with folks and trying to figure out how to get up, and some people are figuring that out and some people probably aren't. Are we tracking, like, pull through of those pre-app meetings compared to anything? Like, are we, anytime we're doing policy that's novel, I'm curious, like, what are we doing that can contribute to the betterment of the region as a whole?

And if they don't want to build what they need there, they'll probably sell it to somebody who will.

So we hear from the developers who don't build something else and would prefer to go below it. Um, the, um, do, um, roughly, do you know off the top of your head what percentage of the city we have minimum densities in?

Oh, okay. Cool. I was going to say, like, I mean, I can just wait a week. An email is fine. Okay. I noticed that the property on 102nd and Main is tiered and, like, steps back away. Is that because we have upper-level setbacks, or is that just because that's how they decided to build it?

The decision on that one. Okay. Um, I would love to, as we do the downtown sub area plan, I would love to revisit the upper level setbacks. Like, is that something that I need to get like hands raised for? Like, can we team that up for a conversation?

Cool. Thank you so much. And, and like, I agree with the deputy mayor, like this may be a lot of work for you, but like, this is maybe the presentation I look forward to the most of any of them all year. So thank you.

So thank you. Nobody's life gets better until something actually gets built.

I don't think so, no. Thank you very much for the presentation. We appreciate it.

Thank you very much. Next up on the agenda is council reports and conversations. Council members. Council member Curd.

conversations that could have just started. Last week I had the privilege of attending with the mayor the Wayne Creek restoration groundbreaking. It's always weird to hold the golden shovel when I'm not the one doing the work but I'm super excited for this project. Over the next two construction seasons of summer we're gonna see that area change dramatically. We had this really complex puzzle of funding assembled from a variety of really interesting and novel sources for the city. And I'm really grateful for the work that our public works team and surface water department is doing to move forw

I also want to include a shout out to an activity that will be featuring members of City Council this weekend, but not be taking place in the City of Bothell. Pride Across the Bridge is going to be hosting a Pride event at Marina Park in Kirkland. And if you want an opportunity to dunk Councilmember Dodd, find the dunk station and get in line.

It's for charity, so I won't take it personally. I recommend dunking anybody from the Woodinville City Council. Thank you.

I just want to quickly update. Last month, I had an opportunity to meet Kenneth Doubt. He's at our museum, a new director, it looks like, and he has a degree in history, and I was able to look at a lot of artifacts. One thing that he kind of mentioned previously preserving a bottle history, artifacts and all seems quite important. And he also moved from Shoreline. It looks like he worked at Shoreline. I visited long back, but visiting again, I think it was a detailed tour. So I just wanted to share. Thank you.

I'll note the tour is open Sundays through October. So you still have time if you haven't gone.

Oh, by the way, he's a part-time director, looks like. He's not full-time.

We all know something about part-time positions. I would love to accept a motion to approve the consent agenda.

I did want to say something on projected agenda. We heard tonight about a potential radio station partnership, and I would just like to ask that that could be a potential agenda, like a conversation that the city has, and then if it is able to be prepared to come back to us as an agenda item, I would appreciate that.

Um, and if there is something that could come back to council for us to be aware of what those conversations have been like, that would be helpful.

just want to say I'm also interested in that as well and I had reached out to you after that after that comment with the same request I am also interested I also want to know how much because that is important and partnership is very big um there is one thing also and I wanted to know more about, I've been doing a lot of reading during our break about, what are they called, data centers. And I would love to get a perspective from staff about data centers and how they work and what our peer cities are doing and what should we be doing and how we should be thinking about it ethically, morally, a

Do we need more? Do you need to count to three?

We fit it in where it fits in. We have a lot of other things that are going on that I know that are high priority, but if something could be scheduled or looked at by end of year, that's fine. If not early next year, it's fine.

That's fine. And as a technologist, I just have a lot of vested interest.

Thank you. City Manager, I think your last comments got what I was going to say, but data center is broad. There are data centers in Bothell and have been forever. AI data centers are what people are concerned about. So a conversation that doesn't differentiate is... kind of useless. So it sounds like that nuance will be in what eventually comes back.

Can we put knowing the future on the projected agenda?

Just one last piece on this is that I'm looking for a point of view, not this is what we're doing. It's just directionally how we're feeling or what we think we should be doing.

I move to approve the consent agenda. Second.

I have a motion from Council Member Dodd to approve the consent agenda and a second from the Deputy Mayor. Would anybody like to speak to the motion? City Clerk?

I was going to speak to the motion. Oh, okay. We heard it kind of mentioned, hinted at tonight that it's really exciting that the work on the Juanita Creek restoration project is moving forward. And so one of the items on the consent agenda is to continue providing the funding so that work can continue. And so that's exciting for us. And I'm grateful that it is on the consent agenda. There's no debate about it, but just something to note and be grateful for. So thank you.

All right, we're going to move on to ordinances and resolutions. And our first of the evening is the Bothell Way Multimodal Improvements Project Offer Package 8, Negotiated Settlement and Budget Amendment. City Manager.

Thanks. Thank you for the updates. They are alarming to me. I guess the first thing that I'm thinking about is the bus rapid transit that depends on some of these changes to my understanding. How... I guess my alarm and why I'm talking uncharacteristically slowly is it sucks that that would be delayed. I hear from people all the time about how exciting it is. People that I don't even know, it's not just me pumping people up. How do we even get to move forward with that without moving forward with this project that we're not sure we can fund?

Appreciate that and I and I want to acknowledge the a lot of the challenges you mentioned are not unique to Bothell NEPA changes we've heard a ton about from Everybody and so this isn't like At you in that sense but I guess In the surprises and things that come, because critical areas aren't a surprise, but the surprises that have developed and raised the cost, this is informing future work, like we're re-evaluating. I think the fact that the estimate was low on the design is also concerning to me. Can we identify why we were so far off, aside from the general state of the world? Is there anyt

I appreciate that, and I apologize in advance for not knowing quite how to ask the last question that I have, which is basically if we acquire property, condemn property, and then we can't move forward for either a long time or I'm not going to say ever, but I think there's a concern that we move people, you know, have all this stuff happening and then we can't start the project. So if you could talk me through, maybe you're thinking on that and if that's even a risk.

Okay. I really appreciate it and I feel like I've seen your department and teams do really amazing work. So it's, I appreciate you walking me through all those questions.

Thank you, Mayor. And thank you, Council Member Nadal, for the great question, because there is a concern. I'm not worried about cancellation. It is a very important project. And my worry isn't the short term, isn't the long term. We are borrowing from the future money. And I wonder what it's going to be like next year or the year after and the year after, once we get to Phase 3. How are we going to, and we just heard the update, the funding isn't, revenue isn't that great. How are we gonna, I know you wanna solve the phase one, phase two issues right now. There's a very short-term thing, but

Can you remind us again the timeline, like very high level of the whole project?

In the grand scheme of things, in 50 years, when our kids and grandkids are looking at this, and the project would be costing $100 billion, they'll say, you guys are arguing about $20 million, really? So I think it is what it is. We are learning from what we did, like the low estimates in the beginning. Engineers are brilliant. I'm sure they're going to figure out. Engineers are really good because we give them a lot of constraints and they're really good at coming up with really cool solutions. So I think we have, I'm optimistic, two year delay in the grand scheme of things. It sucks right no

Oh, time left, meaning the grant periods and all that expire?

Thank you. Pushing two years, again, to use Councilmember Dodd's terminology, sucks. But, you know, it is what it is. Two years is not much in the grand scheme of things. Again, we're working on a 50-year project, not, you know, a two-year project. Yes.

Thank you, Mayor. I am trying to understand and piece this together if I can. My apologies if I'm asking any question that doesn't make sense. So I'm looking at slide eight projected. So 2025, 26. So we anticipated 9.3 millions and we need additional 20 million. Okay. And I'm looking at page number 330 in our agenda. And so when it comes to parcels, we are not making any changes. Like page number 330 has one, two, three, four, five, six parcels. So is that also additional amount that was budgeted originally, page number 330 in the agenda?

Okay, so the design increase $5.3 million is an additional contract, right? Design increase. That's not going to the parcel.

And the right-of-way increase is that that goes to the parcels? Right-of-way increase means does it go to the parcel owners? Yes. Okay, got it. And then if I go to 385, so we have revenues and then I see in 385, there is a arterial street. We are increasing expenditures from $6.8 million to $12.3 million. And if we go to the next page, this is where I see an increase in the capital improvements revenue 56%. approximately 56.7 million to 82.9 million. So is this where we are expecting the grants, the money we are tapping into? We are tapping into the grants. Are these grants specifically given

So my only final concern is, and I'm leaning my fellow council members, if at all possible, can we postpone until we are done with the budget session next to three months and understand more about what's happening with the financially? If we are adding 20 million to this one project, what else we need to add in other projects? Just like this, are there any other projects that we might need to tap into another 10 million, 20 million? Do we even have that kind of money from the grants? Is it possible to wait on this for three months once we are all done and understand the budget? I'm also new to

Thank you, Kuan. If you are more comfortable, I might be comfortable too. Thank you for giving us more information.

I'm going to make a funny or interesting statement. We are okay. We are a $40 trillion debt as a United States. I think we are okay. We can borrow more as long as we can sustain and pay. Thank you so much.

Deputy Mayor. Just looking at you, I'm sorry.

I've been trained. Quan, thank you for coming up and answering those questions. That was the answer that I was also hoping to hear tonight, that it's, from what I understand, the funds exist. It just means that we're prioritizing this project rather than other projects that we also would like to do. And so by moving money around, we're able to move this forward. And then ultimately we'll have to have a conversation about like how to prioritize those other projects going forward. Um, and, and that is very clear and very understandable. Um, and so I'm, I'm comfortable. Um, but I do want to allow

I have some questions unless my jumping ahead of me. Okay, cool. Um, you mentioned some of this was pulled through from acquisitions we expected in 2027 happening early. Like what percentage of the $20 million delta is that?

Um, And we've talked about it. So we're essentially not funding other projects. Where does this money exist right now? Like, are you asking for it from the general fund or is it sitting in impact fees or like what, where is the actual money right now?

I know we have the percentage of the levy funds that was set aside for completing big projects like this. What percentage of those funds are we using for this?

Okay. How were there more business relocations than expected? And I guess, who determines that the business needs to relocate? Like, how does that process work?

Do we ever just go to the businesses on a weekday and look at how much parking is being used?

So basically all of the business relocation is due to parking? Completely. Yeah, every single one of them. Yeah. I'm generally very skeptical of parking problems being as bad as people claim they will be in the future. But it's just one of the examples of how much parking costs us. Right.

They're all in process right now and requiring these funds. Okay. There's a property like a tri-pyramid and we're buying the whole parcel because of an economic remnant determination? Correct. What does that mean?

They can keep it, but we have to make the offer to buy it. Okay. and then we would own it and then we would sell it. That's right.

Is there a chance we're going to recuperate any, like if we're, you know, of this 20 million extra dollars, 10 million of which is just coming from us, like what do we anticipate from real estate sales and proceeds coming back one day?

Tearing down a large building to put in a small building so that there can be more parking is a whole mood.

This is one of those agenda bills that you just, I mean, I know you guys don't like this any more than we don't like this. And all of the negotiations, these are all in process. Businesses are relocating. Like everything is settled pretty much. This is.

I mean, now we know. Council Member Anguillery?

Sorry if I'm asking any question that doesn't make sense, but right-of-way increase, $11.9 million. In our agenda, do we have details about $11.9 million? What is that for? I heard that is for some parcels, but when I looked at the parcels, it's only adding up for $4 million or something like that. It's not adding up to $11.9 million. What is that $11.9 million? Can I have details, please? I can explain. It's just property income, right?

So we don't have details of $11.9 million right now in the packet.

So right now I see three, four, five, seven parcels in page number 338. You are saying there are another four parcels that will require approximately another, I don't know, eight, how much is approximately those four parcels?

All I'm asking is $11.9 million total money goes to the parcel owners, yes or no?

City Manager, I have a point of information for Councilmember Angulary. If you look on the ordinances, you'll see the parcel numbers and the amounts. And you can compare those to the parcel viewer for both King County and Snohomish County to see the specifics about which ones they are. But we don't need to talk specifically about them on the dais tonight. And I have not gone through and added up between the three motions before us tonight, but you can add up what the amounts are for at least action one and two to see what those amounts and which parcels they are. I hope that's helpful informat

Thank you, Deputy Mayor. And the transfer of funds, $3 million, what is that for? $3 million. It doesn't say what is that far. It says we are transferring from 2027.

Thank you guys for the presentation. This is probably not the one you were looking forward to all week. I would just encourage you as we finish this up, I want to make sure that we make people whole, but I don't want to run the voluntary relocation fund for people. I mean, I want to do right by folks, but I don't want this to be a huge economic boon or opportunity for somebody who wanted to do something anyway. So go negotiate well on behalf of the city, and we appreciate the work you do. City Manager? Actually, I need a motion before we call anything. Anybody want to make a motion?

Yeah, and we're doing them separately, like in a row, right? Not all as one?

I make a motion to adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute all necessary acquisition documents for the purchase of right-of-way and easements associated with the two parcels named in our agenda. Second.

I have a motion from Council Member Alderix and a second from Deputy Mayor Alderix and a second from Council Member Dodd. Would anybody like to speak to the motion? Seeing none, City Clerk.

Would anybody like to make the next motion? Council Member Dodd? I saw your finger.

I move the second recommended action, which is all you're going to get from me.

I have a motion from Council Member Dodd to adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute settlement agreements in the condemnation cases filed for the following parcels listed on our agenda. Would anybody like to speak to the motion? City Clerk?

Second. I have a motion from Council Member Dodd to adopt an ordinance amending the 2025-2026 budget. And a second from Council Member Kurtz. Would anybody like to speak to the motion? Council Member Aguilera.

I just want to say I just needed more time. I'm not able to move forward. That's all I just wanted to say for the record.

Thank you, guys. All right. It is 837. We are going to break until 9 o'clock. We'll see you at 9. Welcome back. Next up on our agenda bill is appointments to Joint Fire and Medical Advisory Board. City Manager.

So I'd like to be an alternate if possible.

I did this last year and I'm happy to do it again.

I'm willing to to step into either in an alternate role or as one of the council members. Unless someone else from Snohomish is interested.

I love that for all of you. I think we're good.

It's on the micro mobility. This is just coming kind of like from my resident hat is that I see a lot of these like devices or these whatever they're called around which I think are great but they also are just kind of left places and there is no place where I'll call out Lyme has like parking for them. So I see them all around my apartment complex park. Some neatly, some others are just left in the middle of the sidewalk. So it would be nice if we did have some sort of parking place as you're talking about in your plan for these things. I mean, they're nicely lined up at bus stops, I see. And

So that's just my feedback. Just to tag on to that, I think, and I'm looking at Kyle because I'm going to paraphrase a longer discussion, but I think as we revisit the agreement that we have with Lime, because ours is very bare bones at this point, and we've seen other cities, like it's advanced since we first adopted it, I think understanding how we can get responses to scooters without just going and moving them ourselves would be great, and then just really improving the communication between like residents in Lyme would be great. Because there is supposed to be accountability for parking,

I agree, because we had a lovely council member, Council Member Curd, do some of that moving and wrangling of a line scooter, not to put you on the spot or to embarrass you in any way. But we do need to revisit that agreement. And I don't know what that agreement is and what other cities do. And I'm just thinking, I'm wondering, like, coming from New York, you know, they've got everything. And I'm sure they're just not left everywhere, right? Yeah. I think Lime should be accountable to us, but it sounds like they come in the middle of the night and pick them up whenever they choose to pick the

Well, Calgary, to some extent, is further along in their relationship with Lime, and there are other vendors, too, that we have to be thinking about, so that's why it's good to be comprehensive. But Lime in Calgary has corrals and they have helmets on each scooter. So there's other ways that the company itself is looking to evolve and change too. But I agree that we need to have that as part of a wider conversation about our relationship with Lime. And yeah, micromobility goes beyond just vendors and companies too, because there are folks that have scooters that need parking if they're not goi

Yeah, I completely agree. And I mean, it's not just Lime, it's also Uber and all the other vendors that are out there. And I think we just need to have some sort of policy and some sort of, again, point of view about what we want and what we expect. And if we're a college town, we have to be open to these things because this is how the young people, as I can see it, The youngs. The youths. The youths get around, especially if they're carless. And if we're wanting people to not drive everywhere, we have to give them some options, but we also need to make sure that they are respecting the proper

Totally agree. I think it's a really great thing, and we should get to where a couple of Lime scooters where they aren't supposed to be is something that's solvable and doesn't derail it for everyone. Yeah.

I'm going to circle us back to the agenda bill here. Thank you very much for bringing this back to us. It makes me really happy when we are quickly reevaluating things that we're doing to make sure that they're working. And that brings me joy. And if something's not working, we should change it. I am in favor of the ordinance in general. I generally like kind of removing some of those restrictions. There are two things that I don't like about it. I don't like exempting senior housing. Because seniors are a huge growing contingent of people that buy e-bikes. And there are a lot of people that a

like plus one to that and say, we've had discussions. I don't know if it was this exact seven of us about how expensive it is to own a car. And that one of the ways that you can save like thousands of dollars a year is to not have a car for every eligible driver. So the exemptions that the mayor mentioned for housing for people with disabilities or senior housing, also affordable housing, like I don't necessarily understand that reduction on the face of it. The other part of bike parking for just people of all abilities, like one of the apartment buildings in Bothell that I'm familiar with, al

I have a question. With our philosophy with bike parking, is it if we build it, they will come?

Sure, and I was just kind of just thinking about this and not just trying to oversimplify, but just trying to frame it up for myself. That's all. Thank you.

From a simplified answer, I'd say yes. Like, you know, it's hard to judge demand for a bridge by counting the people swimming over the river kind of a thing. Like, if there's nowhere to store a bike and nowhere to ride a bike, nobody's going to ride a bike. So we've got a situation right now where there's not many places to store a bike and there's not many places to ride a bike, and we're trying to fix that, and bike parking is just part of the...

Building infrastructure that makes it possible because everywhere that has ever done that has seen people use it more Well, once we have a network that people are more comfortable traversing It's not like every building is going to redevelop quickly and they'll be hit with new standards that we then update later so some of my concern I think is if we don't I Don't want to over correct either because then when we do have the infrastructure it'll be like I'm here and now I'm attaching it to a telephone pole and which I have a friend who does in a place he goes with no background. Old school. Tha

I thought that the numbers that we're moving to, and I'm looking for them in the packet right now, were really reasonable. We're going from two per unit or 0.5 per bedroom to two or one per unit up to 100, and then 0.25 per unit thereafter. Honestly, if somebody's got a 300-unit building, I mean, a third of the people probably aren't going to need dedicated bike parking. So this seems like I don't feel like this is a big overcorrection. I feel like this is all pretty reasonable.

I don't disagree. I just want to see more kinds of bikes. And as Steph mentioned, micro mobility stuff accommodated.

That's where I was going. It's like, I think bikes are here to stay, obviously, because they have been for over 100 years or more. But I'm just thinking it's about the young people and the other mobility. Like, that's where I think we have the, what is the word? But where everything is, it's late. And I just think that we should definitely have parking for bikes, but also start thinking a little bit broader and a little bit larger.

That's it. So one of the ways that I think of bike parking, especially within our downtown core, is almost the same way I think about the benches that got put in for seating along the multiway boulevard. It makes sense to me that they would be, and I'm not saying everywhere in the city, but in heavily traversed places, just like periodic, right? You could imagine a trash can, a bench, and a bike parking area and that we would and a little lime scooter corral. We do definitely need those. So I'm glad it was brought up that hopefully will come back to us at some point. But that's kind of how I t

just a side note I meant center of gravity the words have come back to me now thank you one of the things that I saw here was security with bike parking and I like the idea of bike lockers but that's not gonna work everywhere security for Existing on-street bike parking in front of businesses varies in the city based on when the properties were developed. There are some businesses with bike securing racks or whatever that literally can be like just a wrench could take it off out of the pavement. And so that's not really secure. I'd be looking for... something that's encased in concrete or has

Are we good? All right. Thank you. We're adjourned. Sorry, we're not adjourned. Hold on. Elaine wrote me something to read. Eileen. Why did I call you Elaine? It's late. All right, it is now 9.34. Council will adjourn to executive session to discuss potential litigation pursuant to RCW 4230.110.1i for 20 minutes with no action taken. Council will adjourn the meeting from there at 9.54 p.m.