City Council - Regular Meeting

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Tuesday, September 1, 2026Official site

The Keller City Council approved the sale of land at 1000 Bear Creek Parkway to Keller ISD for the natatorium. Council also discussed Short Term Rental regulations, opting for a future work session, and approved amendments to the Unified Development Code regarding electric charging stations.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Keller, TX
Meeting Date
September 1, 2026

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Only published remarks appear here. The full transcript is not published.

186 sections (from 195 segments)

0:25 – 1:26•Ross McMullin

Good evening. We'd like to welcome everyone to the September 1st, 2026 City Council meeting. As always, we'll start by discussing and reviewing the agenda items. It's a very healthy agenda. We have a big work session, a couple very important issues, an executive session as well, and in addition to our regular business. So we'll get right to it. No old business, I think. For consent, we have considered approval of the minutes of the August 12th meeting. F2, minutes for the August 18th meeting. F3, consider resolution of the fiscal year 26-27 vehicle replacement purchases through the Enterprise

1:26•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

My only question there is that is something that's sent out for bid. It's not just...

1:31•Ross McMullin

I believe so. Yes, sir. Yes, great question. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Michael, do you want to talk to us real quick about how you landed on... Yeah, we just... Good to see you, man.

2:22•Ross McMullin

Do they currently serve us without a point?

2:32 – 2:58•Ross McMullin

Maybe they had some economies of scale, right? All right. Good. Good question. F5, consider resolution authorizing city manager to execute a one-year agreement with Advox for the purchase of Arctic Wolf Networks managed detection and response cybersecurity services. is on F5? Does anyone want to put that in plain English? It's basically AI. Well, I know it's cybersecurity, but what is?

3:30•Shannon Dubberly

It's not like a product you just turn on. It's tailored to the city or the company that buys it.

3:35•Ross McMullin

Yeah. I thought I'd seen him before, but I can't remember.

3:47 – 4:31•Ross McMullin

And we're happy, obviously, otherwise it wouldn't be on here. Yes, sir. Okay, good. Any other questions on consent? No. No old business. H1, a public hearing to consider an ordinance approving SUP on Barbara Lane. Doug Stamps is the owner. Any questions about H1? H2, another public hearing. It's a major subdivision final plat. Looks like Katrina and Kenneth Miller, Andrea and Drew Lankford, and Anna D. Bentle are the owners. I missed a few owners there. There's quite a few. 1516 Wallace Lane. Any questions on that item?

4:32•Gregory Will

This is just housekeeping, right? Cleaning up the south property line.

5:27 – 5:52•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

I'll tell you another item on this, and they're aware of it, but those homes wanted to take it in because the elderly lady that lives there that's given property up is not. And so they've gone out on her property and maintained it some, and now they've reached an agreement if they would buy it. And then Sarah made them go through what they needed to get it redone. But it's so it'll look better, too.

5:52•Gregory Will

Sure, sure. Sounds like it's win-win. Yeah.

5:57•Ross McMullin

Good discussion. H3, consider an SUP for Eagle Tavern. Any questions on H3?

6:06•Karen Brennan

This is one where they already had the tables there, the game tables there, and they didn't realize they needed an SUP so they're coming back and getting an SUP.

6:46 – 7:39•Ross McMullin

All right. H4, a resolution approving a special exception to the UDC, sign regulations for chalk and steel. Any questions on H4? H5, consider an ordinance approving amendments to the City of Keller UDC for automobile electric charging stations. This was an item, I believe the Mayor Pro Tem discussed and seems like a good subject matter to consider so thanks Shannon for bringing it forward. Thank you. Any questions on H5? Alright H6 we're not gonna honestly it's repetitive from the executive session item and we'll just tackle that in the executive session it's related to the natatorium.

7:42•Gregory Will

And we would just have to take any action we would just take outside of executive.

7:46 – 10:13•Ross McMullin

Yeah, so H-6 is redundant, and so no need to go through that. But to your point, councilman, any action we would take would be out in the open. All right. Well, I've got to read a lot of language about the executive sessions. All right. At this point, and I will say for people in the room, I think there's some folks in here listening on the short-term rental discussion and other related items. We have a very healthy and lengthy executive session. It's sequenced this way for efficiency purposes. I don't know if we're going to get to SDRs before the 7 o'clock, but the good news is that the 7 o'c

11:20 – 11:47•Ross McMullin

All right. Next up, we're going to have someone here who's no stranger to Keller Elitist and the Pledges of Allegiance. There's a scout here, I think. Abigail Will. Would you mind coming forward to lead us in the pledges? Gregory, you're welcome to join if you'd like. Yeah, if you want to. Sure. Anytime we see a scout in the audience, we ask you for your leadership. All right.

12:12 – 13:36•Ross McMullin

Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible. Great job, guys. So it came to my attention that I'm wholly unqualified to serve in this seat this evening And so we have Mr. Cohen Cox here, who's actually the mayor of the day. And I believe we have a colleague, Councilman Watley, couldn't be with us tonight. And so we also have a councilman of the day, which is Mr. Connor Cox. Gentlemen, if you wouldn't mind coming forward and helping us lead the meeting, I sure would appreciate it. Charles, you can sit by here. No, you can sit by here. All r

13:50 – 14:01•Ross McMullin

The summer reading challenge? So what did you have to do to win the summer reading challenge? So just once?

14:10 – 14:23•Ross McMullin

Something like that. You're going to make an excellent mayor. That's how we operate as well. So we're super excited to have you here. Why don't you both tell us what school you go to?

14:40•Ross McMullin

Seventh and third. You sure? You look older. So, how was your day?

14:58 – 15:23•Ross McMullin

All of it. I told Connor that he's going to make, and Cohen, that Connor's going to make an excellent councilman, and Cohen's going to make an excellent mayor, because when I asked them to pick between police and fire, they declined. They took the diplomatic approach. Well, did you actually go to work today? Didn't you do one or two calls with the fire department?

15:26 – 15:43•Ross McMullin

Pretty cool? Yeah, so Chief Skaggs was telling us they literally did one or two calls with our firefighters out there. So, all right, we've done school. What's one thing that you would change about Keller or improve? One idea.

16:11 – 16:35•Ross McMullin

So, Councilman, we're going to work on your request. Next meeting, we actually adopt the budget. And then, Mayor, actually, just so you know, in part, based on your feedback, we have put that emergency equipment at the baseball fields. So thank you for sharing us with that. And I have one last question for you. It's really important that you know this. Hopefully you remember. Who's the boss of the city?

16:41 – 17:02•Ross McMullin

The people. That's right. It's not the mayor, is it? No. Good job. Good job. All right. Well, do you want to get a picture? Would that be okay? All right. And I have this certificate for you, Mayor. It's awesome. On behalf of City of Keller, thank you for serving as mayor today. Really appreciate it. And then we'll go down here and take a picture, all right? There you go.

17:35•Karen Brennan

You're not in the center. They're in the center.

18:24 – 21:39•Ross McMullin

So next up we have a recognition for some of our very favorite people in Keller. But before we recognize this year's Keller Citizens Academy graduating class, I want to take a moment to recognize someone that's near and dear to the city of Keller in our heart. Kimberly Doyette joined the city of Keller in 2021. And from what I understand, actually grew up right here in Keller. Very sadly, we lost Kim last week and we were all heartbroken about that. She was participating in the Keller Academy. And so We want to take a moment to recognize her. Those who worked with Kim remember her very fondly.

22:01•Ross McMullin

I'm so relieved Amanda's here. I thought I was in trouble as a volleyball coach. As soon as, like, the... We still got to talk, all right?

23:49 – 24:11•Ross McMullin

All right, we'll move on to persons to be heard. This is a time for the public to address the City Council on any subject. However, the Texas Open Meetings Act prohibits the City Council from discussing issues which the public has not been given three business days notice. Issues raised may be referred to city staff for research and possible future action. Each speaker will be allowed three minutes to speak. First up is Mr. Stuart Rennie.

27:33 – 27:48•Ross McMullin

Thank you, sir. And just for what it's worth on that issue, I will be meeting with Chief Fortune soon to have a discussion for possible future action. All right, next up we have Tom Fulbright.

31:30 – 32:37•Ross McMullin

Thank you. Well said, sir. Thank you. Is there anyone else from the public that would like to speak this evening? Okay. Seeing none, move to consent. Item F1, consider approval of the minutes of the Wednesday, August 12, 2026 Special City Council meeting. F2, consider approval of the minutes of the Tuesday, August 18th, 2026 regular city council meeting. F3, consider a resolution approving the fiscal year 26-27 vehicle replacement purchases through Enterprise Fleet Management and authorizing the city manager to execute all related purchasing documents on behalf of the city of Keller, Texas. F4

32:38•Shannon Dubberly

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move we approve consent items F1 through F5 as presented. Thank you, sir. Councilwoman Brennan?

32:45 – 33:48•Ross McMullin

We have a motion and a second. Let's vote on consent. All right, that's approved, 6-0. H1 is a public hearing. Consider an ordinance approving a specific use permit for an approximately 1,883 square foot accessory structure and approximately 11.24 acres located on the north side of Barbara Lane, approximately 1,350 feet west from the intersection of Barbara Lane and Rue Snow Drive. legally described as lot 5A, home side of the black addition zone, single family, 36,000 square foot lot size or greater, and address 715 Barbara Lane. Douglas Stamps is the applicant owner. Is the applicant with us

36:42 – 36:57•Ross McMullin

Thanks, Calvin. Anyone from the public? This is a public hearing. Would anyone from the public like to speak on this item? Anything you wanted to add? No? We're good? Okay. We have a motion. Councilman Will?

36:58•Gregory Will

Yes, Mr. Mayor. I move to close the public hearing.

37:00 – 37:13•Ross McMullin

Thank you. I'll second. Let's vote. Public hearing is closed. Any questions for staff or the applicant? If not, I recognize a motion. Councilman Armstrong?

37:15•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

In the commentary, they talked about that the existing home would be demolished. Is this going to be an issue if we allow this to happen now? What if the bigger house doesn't get built?

37:26 – 37:56•Ross McMullin

Staff, isn't there a SUP? What is the status to the... So I don't think Stephanie has any concerns. It's a good question. Okay. All right. Good question. Any other questions or discussion? I'm really going to be the only one that wishes them a happy wedding anniversary. I'm joking. I'm joking. All right. I'll make a motion to approve item H1 as presented. Councilman Will.

37:57•Gregory Will

Yes, Mr. Mayor. I second and also wish them a happy wedding anniversary.

38:02 – 39:01•Ross McMullin

All right. Let's vote. All right, that item is approved, 6-0. Thanks for coming in. Seriously, give them our best wishes. Thanks for being here. H2 is to consider a resolution approving a major subdivision final plat with one variance for lots 3R through 7R, block A and lot 1, block B of the Calais State Subdivision, being 6.63 acres located on the west side of Willis Lane, approximately 1,787 feet southeast of the Rapp Road and Willis Lane intersection, being a replat of lots 3 through 7, block A of the Calais State Subdivision, and a final plat of a portion of the John Edmund Survey, abstrac

41:05•Ross McMullin

All right, thank you. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone from the public who would like to speak on this item? Not, recognize a motion from Councilman Armstrong.

41:16•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

Motion to approve item H2. I'm sorry, motion to close the public hearing.

41:22 – 41:38•Ross McMullin

Yeah, I was with you, Councilman. That was close. Yeah, we'll close the public hearing if Councilwoman Brennan will second. We have a motion and a second. Let's vote. All right, Councilman Armstrong, your motion.

41:41•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

Now a motion to approve H2 as presented.

41:47 – 42:44•Ross McMullin

Thank you, sir. We have a motion and a second. Let's vote on H2. All right. Platt's approved. Thanks, everyone, for going through the process and being here this evening. I think it's a good outcome, so thanks for working through it. H3 is a public hearing as well. To consider an ordinance approving a specific use permit for Eagle Tavern to operate an indoor entertainment facility in an existing lease space on approximately 3.11 acres on the north side of Keller Parkway, located approximately 220 feet north of the Keller Parkway and Borland intersections. Intersection legally described as lot

44:25•Ross McMullin

Thanks, Calvin. This is a public hearing. Would anyone from the public like to speak on item H3? All right, seeing none, we'll recognize a motion. We got one. Oh, yeah, go ahead, sir. Sorry, I missed you.

45:18•Ross McMullin

Thank you, sir. Would anyone else from the public like to speak? All right, Councilman Will.

45:30 – 45:51•Gregory Will

Yes, Mr. Mayor. Sarah, to that gentleman's point, can you clarify why in this instance we're requiring an SUP if the zoning or the land use designation for a restaurant under the development code allows for a certain amount of gaming or entertainment?

45:51•Ross McMullin

So while staff looks that up, let's go ahead and recognize the Mayor Pro Tem's motion on the public hearing.

45:57•Shannon Dubberly

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move we close the public hearing on item H3.

46:01 – 46:13•Ross McMullin

I'll second. Let's take a vote. All right. Public hearing is closed. Councilman Wolf's point. Sarah, what are your thoughts?

47:08 – 47:36•Gregory Will

No, I just wanted clarification. Thank you. I had one question about the land use. In that one slide that we looked at, I was just trying to understand maybe the theory behind having those two properties designated as mixed use when It's a strip mall. It's probably only going to be retail commercial ever. So I'm just kind of curious why we have that as mixed use.

48:05 – 48:34•Shannon Dubberly

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. For staff, I'd say maybe in the future, because we have so much stuff right now on a backlog, maybe next year looking into this, because I think there is a line, obviously, between restaurants and entertainment venue, but also in some cases that are obviously we don't need extra red tape. maybe we can empower staff to make that distinction more clearly, like we can make it easier for you to do that. So maybe next year when we catch up on some of these backlogs, we can get to that item.

48:45 – 49:00•Shannon Dubberly

Well, I don't need a response. I was just saying in the future we can discuss it. Sorry, I wasn't looking. I was just saying as a council, we need to empower you all if we think it's too much red tape. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying you did anything wrong. I was saying we, council, need to clarify it if we think it does or just leave it if we agree.

49:04•Ross McMullin

I blame everyone on the 2021 flop committee personally. Wait, I was on that one. Never mind. Councilman Armstrong.

49:12•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

My question is going to be for staff as well. On the two dissenting votes on approval from PNZ, I don't care who they were, but the reasons, do you recall?

50:11 – 50:23•Ross McMullin

Good question. Is the applicant here tonight? Hey, I had a quick question for you, sir. If you don't mind stepping forward. Yeah, just so they can hear you on the YouTube live stream.

50:24•Gregory Will

Mr. Mayor, could I have a follow-up with Sarah's response just now?

50:28 – 51:06•Ross McMullin

Yeah, absolutely. So the quick question I had was probably two-part. One, how many pool tables are you looking to do? Just those two. Just the two? Yeah. And then do you have any opposition? Because one of the things we can do to kind of clear it up is just put a condition on your specific use permit that basically says we're limiting it to two two pool tables. Would that be agreeable to you? Two is fine, yes. Two is fine? Yeah, I know it's probably a little bit, well, it is a red tape. Whatever is convenient, even for you guys. I feel like I was not going to come here and meet in a row.

51:10 – 51:22•Ross McMullin

No, we're excited to have you here, and all I was going to say is really appreciate you kind of going through the process. I think it would be wise, just for clarity's sake, just to make that recommendation that we're just talking about two pool tables, but

51:23•Gregory Will

Councilman Wold, did you have a follow-up? You actually hit my nail on the head.

51:28•Ross McMullin

I can't golf, but every once in a while I'll hit one. Okay, so Mayor Pro Tem?

51:35 – 51:49•Shannon Dubberly

Yeah, maybe we disagree. Y'all can make a motion to amend. I was going to move to approve H3 as presented. I don't think we need the red tape. It isn't big enough to really become a pool hall, but if y'all want to amend it, that's fine. But my motion is to approve it as presented. Okay.

51:50 – 52:14•Ross McMullin

Well, Cody Thorne's in the audience with community impact, and he knows I can't resist an opportunity to amend a motion like that. So I will make a motion to amend. Either way it works out, we'll be fine. Item H3, so that way the specific use permit is limited to two pool tables as the applicants requested. And so procedurally we'll vote on that, but I have to get a second. Is there a second on that motion?

52:17•Ross McMullin

All right. We have a motion and a second. Mayor Pro Tem, you're welcome to vote for this one as well.

52:21•Shannon Dubberly

Yeah, just for clarification, if you vote against this, you can still vote for it.

52:25 – 53:43•Ross McMullin

We're going to vote on the amendment first, and then if that succeeds, then there's no further action necessary because we'll have approved the item. If it, for some reason, fails, then we'll consider the Mayor Pro Tem's motion. And it's a point well made, sir. All right, so everyone clear on the motion, or the amendment to the motion? All right, let's vote. All right, that passes 4-2. Thank you for coming in tonight. Thank you, appreciate you being here. Thank you. All right, next up is item H-4, consider resolution approving a special exception to the City of Keller UDC. Article 9, Developme

56:14•Ross McMullin

All right. This is not a public hearing. Do you have a question, Councilman Wool?

56:24 – 56:45•Gregory Will

Maybe I missed it. I was looking. It just says that we're looking for approval to use something other than what's listed, but it doesn't say actually what the sign is going to be composed of. So do we know? I may have missed it, but I don't see it. in the presentation.

57:02•Ross McMullin

Thanks, Councilman. Councilman Armstrong?

57:05•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

Being in the location that this place is going to be, they're going to need some help on signage. It's tucked back behind Sonic.

57:13 – 57:37•Ross McMullin

and a couple of other restaurants and the signage looks really good and hopefully it'll draw you a bunch of people back there if it passes so i think you need all the signage you can get back there all right do we have any so if the quality materials just because our udc doesn't list it as a quality material doesn't mean it's not a quality material so what are our thoughts on the quality of the material if you don't have any insights or

59:06•Shannon Dubberly

I'd just add that we had the same discussion at the sports park. We were looking at the difference between painting and vinyl. I think it'll be fine. I agree with Councilman Armstrong's point.

59:16•Ross McMullin

Anything else for me? No, sir. Thank you. We have a motion from Councilman Armstrong.

59:26 – 1:00:06•Ross McMullin

All right. Thank you, sir. Councilwoman Brennan? All right. We have a motion and a second. Let's vote. All right, that passes 6-0. Thanks for coming in, and again, we're excited to have you here in the City of Keller. We're excited to be here. Thank you, sir. H5 is a public hearing to consider an ordinance approving amendments to the City of Keller Unified Development Code adopted by Ordinance Number 1746, dated July 7, 2015, by amending Article 8 relating to automobile electric charging stations, providing penalties, authorizing publication, and establishing an effective date.

1:02:46•Ross McMullin

Awesome. Thank you. So this is a public hearing. Would anyone from the public like to discuss item H5?

1:02:55•Shannon Dubberly

All right, seeing none. Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move we close the public hearing on item H5. Thank you. Councilwoman Brennan?

1:03:06 – 1:03:36•Ross McMullin

Motion and a second. Let's vote. All right. Public hearing is closed. I just want to briefly acknowledge the mayor pro tem for bringing this item forward. You know, I think it's important that we create a path for folks to, you know, live, work, and play in Keller. But, you know, there are times where we have to have quality controls. And so this is, I think, a good time for that. And I'll be in favor of... this item. Councilwoman Brennan?

1:03:36 – 1:03:59•Karen Brennan

Just a question for staff real quick. I'm also in favor of this item. I believe this is in reaction to the electric charging stations that were placed at the Walmart that we all didn't really realize were going to be there, and they were allowed by right because it was considered retail. This would then require that they would come in front of city council the next time something like that comes up.

1:04:53 – 1:05:04•Ross McMullin

When we did that vote, we were actually curing some of the medical use issues, if I recall. if we're talking about the same area, I think that's why the property was rezoned, right?

1:05:14 – 1:06:13•Ross McMullin

Yeah, I think, you know, maybe we can, yeah, that was the medical city manager showing me a map. You know, for whatever it's worth from a council perspective, basically what happened is there were suites that were outfitted with medical equipment, and then the zoning changed underneath those owners and those occupants' feet. A couple, at least one spot went vacant with the investment of medical, and then it went vacant. What is it? You have to be vacant for more than six months or a year? I think it's six months. Yeah, so they were vacant longer than six months, and so we had this medical buil

1:06:23 – 1:06:35•Ross McMullin

Probably the same folks that we, so, well, I'll chat with you offline about it, Sarah, so that way we can, I can get a few more questions answered. Thank you. Did you get your question answered? Yeah. All right. Mayor Potem.

1:06:36 – 1:07:39•Shannon Dubberly

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thanks, City Manager and the Mayor for helping move this along. I just want to say for those listening, For citizens out there, the concern was multi-focused public safety, no matter whether it's a refueling station for a combustion engine or an electric vehicle. We want to make sure it has safety noticing and also has safety components, on-off switch, things of that nature. And also to let consumers know that they can park in those spots. Most of, like if you go over here, I'm losing my mind, the zone right here. Right here, Senator. Thank you, town center. If you

1:07:40 – 1:08:41•Ross McMullin

Is there a second? Councilman Will? I second. All right, we have a motion and a second. All right, let's vote on H5. All right, that passes. Thanks again, Mayor Pro Tem, for bringing that forward. That's good work on behalf of the City of Keller. With that, no consideration of H6 is necessary because it's duplicative, so we'll go ahead and recess briefly and then start our work session in about three minutes. our work session strs we discussed this issue discussed this issue a couple times over the past years my recollection from the last update was that council essentially asked staff to do s

1:15:25 – 1:15:41•Ross McMullin

that we were discussing possibly like staff capacity to monitor the hot tax is that still an issue or I think so it's going to depend on which method you go so if we're being extra restricted then we could probably do it internally if we were

1:17:43•Ross McMullin

When you say substantiated, what does that mean?

1:18:01•Gregory Will

So they're basically confirming that it's not just some... angry neighbor who just keeps calling in complaints frivolously to... Right.

1:18:17 – 1:18:46•Ross McMullin

Yeah, so to your question, I was kind of thinking about it from the, you know, there are STR operators that are very responsible and there are those that are obviously not, but if I just want to make sure it wasn't like trying to understand the level of scrutiny with when we say a substantiated complaint.

1:19:11 – 1:19:37•Karen Brennan

Well, maybe we just reference where else in the code it is that you could just reference a certain section. Because I know that we go in sometimes and we rewrite some of the code that's duplicate and repeat it rather than repeating it again. We could always just reference a section, so if that section later changes, we don't have to go back and change this. Sure. It would apply. Just a suggestion.

1:20:05•Ross McMullin

Why not just devil's advocate? Why not P&Z?

1:20:45•Ross McMullin

So the bottom line is we have flexibility, ZBA or PNZ. We can do both. I leave it at that.

1:21:23•Karen Brennan

They have a minimum stay requirement of two days. I didn't see any of that in your

1:21:48•Karen Brennan

I don't know what the concern is there, the one night versus two nights.

1:22:41 – 1:22:54•Ross McMullin

I don't know. Based on both qualitative and quantitative feedback, if we're going to take action, I'd be much more inclined for three. The SUP are out, but I don't know what you guys think.

1:22:54 – 1:23:30•Karen Brennan

Are we concerned legally? I mean, if we just outright ban? I mean, I'm all for grandfathering the ones that already exist, but making them apply and get them on the record and all that. But for brand new STRs in residential areas, are we open to legal action? Because I think there's been some cases in the state of Texas, Austin particularly, where that was an issue because of personal property rights and the ability for an individual to do what they want to with their land if it doesn't violate the law. So that's what I wonder if that part of it would be a problem for the city.

1:23:40 – 1:23:55•Ross McMullin

That's a good question. I don't want to call people. What do you guys think? I mean, as it relates to the three options, do you have any instincts? I like one. You like one.

1:23:59•Charles Randklev

I'm curious about the process. Is there a reason why we wouldn't want to do another work session before this goes to P&Z?

1:24:07•Karen Brennan

And like write it out and see what it looks like?

1:24:09 – 1:24:55•Ross McMullin

Yeah. Yeah, mainly to get their feedback because ultimately we're going to get... What would we be sending them? I guess that's to Karen's point. Yeah, so we would give policy direction, big picture direction to Sarah tonight. So that way... If we want to go the SEP route, then she could start working on that language and present it to P&Z. They could all tighten it up, and then we'd reconsider it. We can always do another work session. We could do five work sessions. So it's just kind of at our discretion. But because this is already our second work session with this council on it, I was thin

1:24:57 – 1:25:11•Karen Brennan

I guess my opinion is that why don't we write up what we think it's going to be, how it's going to read, and we have one more city council work session where we all look at it and read it and then say, yeah, it's good, let's submit it to PNC.

1:25:12•Ross McMullin

All right. Well, then y'all don't complain to me when we're here late.

1:25:15 – 1:25:27•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

What was the consensus out of the group that looked at this? but which one did they lean more towards?

1:25:43•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

So you didn't answer my question. Well, I don't have an answer because I haven't presented the option.

1:26:00 – 1:27:52•Ross McMullin

long story short essentially that there just wasn't a whole lot of empirical data to support taking action we actually heard from a high volume of and i'm talking citywide yes there are documented individual instances no question about that no one's arguing that but 2022 the thought was you know citywide there's some isolated instances let's try to attack it through enforcement But that's where we landed in 2022. There's a lot of folks here. We've gotten some emails from them that, unsolicited emails anyway, that spoke to that and said, hey, look, there's operators in Keller that are, the lady

1:27:52 – 1:30:16•Gregory Will

Greg, what do you think? I think if I were the king of Keller and could do whatever I wanted, doesn't allow any new STRs in neighborhoods, and doesn't overly burden the people who are already operating if they're operating in good faith, and it gives us an option to hold them accountable if they aren't operating in good faith. or creating problem districts, and eventually, it will eventually lead to one at some point, because those properties will change hands at some point, and the grandfathered status would not be transferable to the new property owner. So it would eventually become a single

1:30:16 – 1:30:54•Ross McMullin

So can I add to that comment on three? Yeah, I would just add one thing. When I say, because I need to touch up my own comment and then jump right to Jared, I would just say I'm for three. but it should come with some actual accountability like it's a revocable yeah sup and if there's so you can incorporate which one has the two strikes you're out rule it's under the restrictions yeah so if they don't follow the restrictions all right i like that both of it but i we're already talking about how late we're going to be here and if it's just an extra item that comes to us they're not coming to us

1:30:57 – 1:31:10•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

They should be mad at us. I don't think we need this council or any other former future council to have to deal with it like that on a one-on-one basis. Create an entity that already says here's where it's at. Once it's gone, like two says, then deal with it.

1:31:11•Ross McMullin

So they would come to us on the good end, right? But they would go to ZBA when they're the bad actor. So we wouldn't necessarily deal with the bad actors.

1:32:02•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

Impacted negatively. Those impacted negatively.

1:32:36•Ross McMullin

I got good feedback on the SUP from operators and neighbors, actually.

1:32:49•Charles Randklev

almost the outright ban, but then for the others, do we have any examples in surrounding municipalities?

1:33:45•Ross McMullin

Because couldn't you revoke the registration? If they're, like, council could just spit out the policy criteria, and then if they violated twice, then...

1:34:37 – 1:35:00•Ross McMullin

Well, I guess my point is they're already allowed today. Correct. So we have registration and they pay taxes. Then to Councilman Armstrong's point, which I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but you were like, hey, why do we need all this on our agenda in summary? And I'm like, well, so that way we could have some accountability. I'm just wondering if that's, I don't know, what do you guys think?

1:35:00 – 1:35:56•Shannon Dubberly

Hi, I'll give you my, can you go back to the three options? For me, actually, I think our agendas are full in the work session. Zach, I think out there, we're actually okay. I could be the only one. Originally, I like number two because selfishly, if I buy a house in a single family, I don't expect for, you know, an STR to be there. However, you know, I don't know if everyone's had a chance to read some of the emails, like there was one family, elderly couple, like their house either burned down or something, and so they were able to stay in Keller because they could use STR for a longer term.

1:36:11 – 1:36:30•Karen Brennan

that already are operating in SDR would have to go through the process and make sure that they satisfy all the requirements. They wouldn't have to go through the SUP process because they're already in SDR, but they would have to pass all the requirements that we're now putting on the SDR. That's part of number three.

1:36:50 – 1:37:16•Gregory Will

can register but not necessarily have to go through the SUP process as long as they're registered and they're meeting the requirements that we put in place and obviously wouldn't lose their grandfather status because they're operating in good faith and then Yeah, so typically we don't have that just to be honest with you because it gets pretty

1:37:46 – 1:38:01•Ross McMullin

Councilman Will or Mayor Pro Tems kind of points about what can we do legally? I guess it was a two-parter. Number one, can we require current operators to go through an SUP process?

1:38:36 – 1:39:03•Gregory Will

How would the enforcement action look then? Because with regard to properties that get an SUP, it would be a revocable SUP where they could no longer continue to operate. But if current operators, let's say somebody lost their mind and started having keggers every Saturday with 500 people in the backyard, because there's no SUP in place, how would we, I guess, what teeth would we have there?

1:39:33 – 1:39:45•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

whichever one we decide to choose. I agree with what Councilman Will said. The main emphasis would be to get back to having single family residential in single family.

1:40:03 – 1:40:18•Ross McMullin

the Westlake data center here right we had how many people just in this room in that room and if we have our work sessions that's what we have persons to be heard for that being said if you have like yeah 30 seconds to a minute I'll do it informal persons to be heard

1:41:36 – 1:42:18•Ross McMullin

doing a good job yeah yeah so thank you for sharing that and I'll just tell you this like from a public feedback perspective we're hour and a half discussion. So there's been a lot of ample feedback and data available for council to consider, and it's good data.

1:43:06 – 1:43:44•Ross McMullin

Yeah, and I'll just say, out of You were kind of between two and three. You were more at two. You were at three. I'm at three. You're at two. I only...

1:43:46 – 1:43:58•Shannon Dubberly

I don't even know what you said. I don't know where we're at. What's leading right now? Two is? No, I don't know if it's leading. Three is leading.

1:43:58 – 1:44:26•Ross McMullin

Three is leading, yeah. Sorry. You're going to make some Yeah, my problem with two is it's honestly a backdoor ban. Like, that's how I read it. It's like, okay, you can do your SDR, and tell me where I'm wrong, Sarah, and push back. I'm misstating something because I don't want to misstate something. But it's basically, okay, you'll be grandfathered, but if you sell your property or convey it,

1:45:16•Gregory Will

If the intent is for residential areas to be residences, then that makes sense to me.

1:45:26•Ross McMullin

Yeah, we could get, yeah. We'll watch the 2022.

1:45:44 – 1:46:39•Ross McMullin

is Councilman Rankley literally said, I'm for three so long as we bring it back for a work session. Right, Councilman? No, you didn't say that. You just want it back for a work session. So I will look at three, I'll write it up, and then bring it back for a work session. Sounds like that's the consensus of council, because I think that'll allow us to do a little bit deeper dive and look at some of the accountability, some of the meat and potatoes, the regulations or the requirements. And then I actually think the requirements feedback rather than re-going through the same presentation, if that

1:46:42•Karen Brennan

Then basically we would redline it and then it would go on. And then it would go back to us and approve it.

1:46:49 – 1:47:04•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're tracking right. Yes, sir. I'd just like to make sure we get it moving because it's been kicked down the road unintentionally for a long time. Yeah. And we're taking a 1% of bad apples and affecting the 99% of the people that are doing good, including owners

1:47:15•Ross McMullin

Perfect. D2? Is that you good, Sarah? Do you have everything you need? Yes, thank you. All right. Thank you. Thanks, everyone, for their feedback.

1:50:35•Shannon Dubberly

So lacrosse only wants Mondays and Wednesdays.

1:51:36•Karen Brennan

It's just an additional circle at the key in front of the goals and it's going to be in a different color. We did send that to Keller Soccer Association to ask them

1:52:19•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

What is the cleanup process? Is it tape or is it paint?

1:52:39•Ross McMullin

And we can even like give them feedback on the colors like sometimes the markings, these are good questions, the markings on the field can be pretty confusing.

1:53:25•Ross McMullin

Why wouldn't they use their field for practice?

1:53:41•Ross McMullin

Yeah, so when they came to us, they only mentioned games. Did they follow up with us?

1:54:15•Shannon Dubberly

It's probably JV, then varsity, or backwards. Yeah. That, yeah.

1:54:24•Ross McMullin

I thought they used the lacrosse field right there.

1:54:41 – 1:54:53•Karen Brennan

Their practice field is real grass. Is that the difference? The lacrosse field is grass. So they want to practice on the turf because it's going to be different than playing on grass.

1:54:53•Ross McMullin

Correct. It's just a lot of lacrosse, because then they get up three days a week. It is a lot.

1:55:09•Ross McMullin

Oh, so during the season they'd have one game and then one practice?

1:55:27 – 1:55:43•Shannon Dubberly

I'm okay with a lot of it. I just, you know, I know we're still working on our tournament policy, but, you know, I'd hate for a tournament that'd bring in a lot of business to our city because of an off-season practice. So, however we manage that, deferring to you.

1:55:56•Ross McMullin

Are they looking at two games a week as well?

1:56:23 – 1:56:37•Ross McMullin

prime days a week. Like that eats up a lot of time. That's a more substantial request. So I'm personally good with the games. But what do you guys think? I mean am I overthinking it? I'm with the mayor. Okay.

1:56:40•Karen Brennan

I'm okay with it. I think it's just interesting that they practice in the fall and they play in the spring. Because usually you're practicing when you're playing.

1:57:14•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

So they don't do any practices at Keller High?

1:57:28 – 1:58:13•Ross McMullin

Okay. Can we just say, I mean, unless he's trying to do – do we know if they're trying to do two games a week? Because me personally, I would just say, yeah, let's try one day a week. That's what I would say. But I don't want to screw up their game schedule. Or soccer schedule. Yeah, or the soccer schedule. So I think one day a week is probably fine, so they can schedule out their games that way. Okay. There should be enough time in – if they have 14 games to do that, we can be more flexible on the games. I don't think anyone – is anyone opposed to having games on soccer pad B? No. soccer.

1:58:13 – 1:58:42•Shannon Dubberly

Yeah, I mean soccer is a lot going well during that time. And again, I know tournaments are during mid-week, but there's practices and they do have some, not many, some tournaments. I've only had one mid-week. I just, this is, it's getting late in my brain, maybe expand it, especially if we see our usage. I mean, we just opened all this up this year, and we're still getting as

1:59:03 – 1:59:38•Ross McMullin

So when people are renting it's A, C, D, E. They can already go and rent the practice space. they can they just can only do it two weeks in advance yeah and i think that's perfectly fine to be honest with you because um unless i'm misunderstanding something but they can't do that with games like you have to have structure for games right so that's what i would tell them is yes for practices you can do it but use the current reservation system so that way you don't have to getting that back and forth and also it gives them the ability if the field's open and then games we just give them the gre

1:59:44 – 2:00:02•Shannon Dubberly

Yeah, and KSA is really trying to grow select in soccer with that KSA has gone down, and then there's other leagues that want to use those sometimes. There's a discussion. I won't go there. But yes, they already have the right to the mayor's point. They can do it now, just like any other resident.

2:00:02•Ross McMullin

Honestly, I think if at the end of the day you think it's okay and it's not going to cause major congestion, I think.

2:00:35•Ross McMullin

It'll be fine. I think the games will be fine. Yeah.

2:00:43•Ross McMullin

Waiting on you, Jordan. That's what they're doing. Yeah, probably waiting on this discussion.

2:00:58 – 2:01:35•Ross McMullin

All right, D3 in a local agreement with Southlake relating to the Alta Vista Number five, it's literally going to be, do you have questions about the economic development update? Because we already received that report, so it'll be here to answer questions. Don't think we're going to go through a, you know, unless you have 20 minutes worth of questions, that one should be relatively quick. Let's do that one now, actually. Do you guys have questions on the economic development?

2:01:56 – 2:02:10•Jarrett "Doc" Armstrong

town and I'm supposed to be Mr. Council and there's a new business or something that has come here and I don't have a clue about it is there any way we can get a list of those that are flat dudes that did everything you asked them to do?

2:02:15•Shannon Dubberly

Would you point it out to me? The CO's? Yes, that's what I was going to say.

2:02:44•Ross McMullin

The mural? Not at the McAllister's. No, no, no, but it's in the... For Regency. Yeah.

2:02:56•Gregory Will

The last email I have from you is on June 6th.

2:03:07•Ross McMullin

I think what a good councilman is getting at is the more color focused, the better.

2:03:25 – 2:03:43•Ross McMullin

Baylor, Scott & White, you know right across from where. So the idea, so Shane and I met with Regency. We said, what can we do to activate the space? Let's start, and they were all about it. And so one of the follow through items is to do the mural. Should be pretty exciting, shouldn't it?

2:04:02 – 2:04:18•Shannon Dubberly

And it's an open space, and we can do stuff with it in the future. The mayor's point, they were actually really... Water tower.

2:04:20 – 2:05:15•Ross McMullin

Any other questions for Anna? Yeah, thank you. I don't know if that allows you to get out here earlier, but that was the reason for getting the D5. All right. And kind of moving ahead, We're going to, Erin and I talk, we'll restructure, reformat some of the staff reports. So they're going to have a look and feel a little bit more like that. So it's going to be a little bit of a mindset shift, at least for me to, and, you know, for some of us to read the information, come prepared with questions. So we'll start clicking through staff reports. And then we'll probably have a few more substantive

2:08:10•Ross McMullin

Do we do a joint application with Southlake, or was it the City of Keller was awarded 1.75?

2:08:29•Ross McMullin

So then the 50-50, how does that work in coordination with Southlake? Because we were awarded 1.75.

2:08:43 – 2:08:56•Ross McMullin

Oh, okay. Got it. So we're actually carrying 75% of the bill. Yes. But we did the work to secure it. Yeah, we did all the work. Okay, got it.

2:10:02•Shannon Dubberly

And that ameliorates a lot of the concerns we had early on.

2:10:05•Karen Brennan

And is this still a pair of the pipe or replace the pipe?

2:11:26•Karen Brennan

So it's a real tight pit. They can feed it through a hole in.

2:11:30•Gregory Will

That's crazy. What's the lifespan on the new material? Will it be like 40 years? It'll be longer. Yeah, longer?

2:11:45•Ross McMullin

They take care of that, so that opens...

2:14:03•Shannon Dubberly

So we've gotten millions from federal government to help offset, tell their taxpayers.

2:14:16 – 2:15:07•Ross McMullin

any concerns about moving forward with uh just the design and engineering i mean i don't because if we don't like it um we do the design and engineering we don't like it well then the plans go on the shelf and 875 thousand dollars is a big commitment so once we take that first step but it's not like you're you're not all the way in you're not you're not at 15 At the end of the day, the water line has to be repaired. It's not exciting. It's not above ground. As long as Rodney's shower pressure still works all right, we should be good. Right, Rodney? I'm just at 40 where I'm at. But in all serio

2:15:08 – 2:15:19•Gregory Will

You're right though, Mr. Mayor. It's not exciting, but when you turn on your faucet and water doesn't come out, that's basically failure of government at its basic level.

2:16:04•Ross McMullin

Yes, sir. All right. Thank you. Good update. It's good to have good neighbors.

2:21:59•Gregory Will

click somewhere and export to a CSV file.

2:22:32•Shannon Dubberly

And when Trent does all his stuff, you'll be able to use those CSVs that Greg was asking about. Just pull the data. Sure.

2:24:02•Ross McMullin

So how do you get there? You go to the apply for a permit page?

2:26:16•Ross McMullin

So I could literally set up an alert to monitor...

2:26:34 – 2:26:49•Ross McMullin

This is really cool, man. It eliminates, so I know I've text messaged you like, hey, what's the status of this property? Not that much, but I have a couple times. But I could just go in here and look.

2:30:34•Ross McMullin

So the general public can access this? Yeah.

2:32:16•Ross McMullin

Oh, cool. Yeah. Well, that's good. Great. Is there anything else? Yep, that's it. You guys have any feedback? That's great. This is awesome.

2:32:25 – 2:32:43•Karen Brennan

I like the comparison because we get complaints how cumbersome and awful the process is and we can go back and the example number of days it took to get a permit through, I mean, with data that would compare them.

2:33:49 – 2:35:55•Ross McMullin

it's amazing what you learn when you take the time and thanks for taking time to educate me and I presume colleagues. Alright, so that concludes our work session. So a couple executive session items that we've got to complete. So I'll go ahead and Restate. Counsel will go into executive session under section 551.074 of the Texas Government Code, personal and mental matters to deliberate the opinion, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer or employee. Section 550.071, consultation with attorney, closed meeting. A governmental body may not cond

2:36:14 – 2:37:49•Ross McMullin

And replatted. And replatted. It's replatted. And replatted, so... You know, I think in cooperation and collaboration with the school district to maintain use as a natatorium and to get our folks back swimming in the pool again, I think it's the right thing to do to clean up the legal documents so that way Keller families can get back swimming at the natatorium that we all love. So, thanks for the work in negotiating that price. under this agreement fail to be used for an educational purpose, then my understanding is pursuant to state law, it would revert back to the city of Keller, right? Is

2:37:50•Karen Brennan

All right. Are you willing to do me and make it clear that we all know it's just the land under the building itself and the parking lot's not included? All right. We'll make sure that was clear.

2:38:00 – 2:38:44•Ross McMullin

Well stated, yeah. Do we get everything right? Yeah. Stan, Aaron, you good? We're good. You want me to restate anything? Nope. We're good? Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. All right. We do have one more item. We have a hardworking city council. So we're going to go back into executive session so we can consider that one additional item. We're just finishing our performance evaluations.

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