City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, August 25, 2026

The City Council received an update on the Stage One Drought Contingency Plan, detailing water usage and reservoir levels. A lengthy discussion also took place regarding the proposed budget and tax rate, revealing complexities in calculating the "no new revenue rate" and prompting council to request further clarification. The meeting also included a proclamation for Hispanic Heritage Month.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Amarillo, TX
Meeting Date
August 25, 2026

Published excerpts

Only published remarks appear here. The full transcript is not published.

105 sections (from 112 segments)

2:41 – 3:09•Cole Stanley

Audio. Ms. Kristen, are you live back there? Streaming? Okay. Welcome to today's meeting. I will officially recognize a quorum, call ourselves in. Before we have ourselves read into exec, we'll state for the record that item 1.1.2 will not be heard, will not be discussed in exec. Mr. City Attorney.

2:02:42 – 2:03:12•Cole Stanley

MS. KRISTEN, ARE WE GOOD IN THE BACK? MR. CITY MANAGER, YOU NEED ANYTHING BEFORE WE GET STARTED? MS. CITY SECRETARY, ALL GOOD? GREAT. OKAY. WE WILL CALL OURSELVES BACK INTO SESSION IN HERE. Recognizing a quorum moving forward with the remaining amount of our business today. Today, we'll start with our ceremonial items. We actually have Councilman Reed that will give our invocation. If you guys don't mind, please stand and remain standing for the pledges.

2:03:17 – 2:04:14•Tim Reid

If you'll pray with me, bow your heads. Heavenly Father, we gather today as a public body committed to serving the people of our city. We come before you seeking your guidance, wisdom and presence as we deliberate and make decisions for the common good. May your spirit be with us filling this room with peace, clarity and unity. Help us to set aside differences, work together in harmony and ensure that our actions reflect integrity, fairness and the highest standards of service. Lord, grant us wisdom to discern correctly, courage to make sound decisions, and humility to listen to all voices. Ma

2:04:49 – 2:05:07•Cole Stanley

We do have the honor of honoring a few people here today for Hispanic Heritage Month. Some pretty terrific local leaders from over in the Barrio neighborhood, they're coming up. Ms. Teresa, could you and Q come forward? We're gonna go downstairs and we'll read this.

2:05:49 – 2:07:36•Cole Stanley

All right. Thank you guys for joining us up here. I'm going to read our proclamation here and then we will award it. So whereas Hispanic Heritage Month provides an opportunity to recognize and celebrate the significant contributions Hispanic and Latino Americans have made to the United States of the United States and to Amarillo. And whereas 2026 Hispanic Heritage Month theme pioneers of change shaping the future together highlights Hispanic Americans transformative contributions in science, art, politics and community activism. Whereas the 2026 Hispanic Heritage Month slogan, Unidos Somos Mas

2:10:49 – 2:11:09•Cole Stanley

Thank you guys for being here and thanks for everybody for supporting that and the acknowledgement. Okay, we're going to move into announcements. Do I have any? No, okay. Number four, discussion items. We're going to go through Mr. Hooper if he's going to take us into stage one drought contingency planning.

2:26:36•Cole Stanley

Questions? What's the capacity out of the water treatment plant?

2:26:58•Cole Stanley

So daily production treated water. Now what's our mix of raw versus treated? Do we have a mix that we're able to work through?

2:28:37•Cole Stanley

What's the current level in gallons out there at the reservoir? I was a little lost, so if we're at 50? 275,000. Okay. And so 300,000, 60% somewhere in there? Yeah. Yes, sir. And we're gaining back five MGDs a day?

2:28:57 – 2:29:25•Cole Stanley

So you project this, you know, at this current rate, if we get cooler weather, which I think we do have some in the forecast, but then if we get rain, you may recover five MGDs, you think? And the main thing is the usage, right? Once the usage goes down. So what was our lowest usage? Was it 64 that we've seen or if 88 was our highest? I'm just saying over the last couple weeks.

2:29:36•Cole Stanley

Do we see somewhere around 88 down to about 70 MGDs kind of over the last couple days?

2:30:05•Cole Stanley

I appreciate you making the comment. Like, I think it's good to say, you know, Fermi project is construction water only, and that's about 10,000 gallons a day.

2:30:21 – 2:31:02•Cole Stanley

Yeah, so that's a good kind of line to draw and point. So I guess I'd use the analogy. You know, I may be driving the truck and I can have the pedal all the way down, stressing the engine. I can be at 6000 RPM maxed out, right? Doesn't mean that the The tank of gas is empty. I can have a full tank of gas and I am pushing my maximum in 140 mile an hour going down the highway. Right? So if you think about that, that's your differentiation with your Ogallala aquifer. Like you may have a full tank of water back there in the Ogallala, but you're maxing your capacity at 88 MGD. Right. You got the pe

2:32:14 – 2:32:31•Cole Stanley

We definitely see it and appreciate it. And then we also appreciate the other partnerships. I think, you know, with Lubbock maybe saying, hey, we can assist over here on kind of how that water gets delivered to them. Is our reservoir only fed by Cremois or do we feed that through our own?

2:32:34•Cole Stanley

Everything else that comes from our wellfield goes to?

2:32:39•Cole Stanley

Okay. And that max is 48 MGDs from our wellfield?

2:32:47•Cole Stanley

48 from the plant. What's our max from the wellfield?

2:33:00 – 2:33:19•Cole Stanley

Okay. And then in the beginning of all this, even though we've had 35 days of 100 plus, right, were we utilizing the reservoir a little bit more so, so that we didn't stress the engine totally? So now we've stopped utilizing the reservoir as much as we can, and we're now pushing as much out of the well field and out of

2:33:36 – 2:34:09•Cole Stanley

Well, I appreciate you taking the time to, one, I appreciate the leadership yesterday and getting in front of, like, a good-sized press conference that went on for, I don't know, 25 minutes probably. But I thought you guys did a good job operationally of explaining it. I still took some e-mails and some phone calls of, You know, hey, I watched all three channels. I got a different take on each one. So I'm still unclear. And so I think it's a complicated enough matter that we need to keep speaking to it.

2:34:09 – 2:35:25•Cole Stanley

And so I think it's great that you guys are putting that out. I think communications doing a good job on their side. But we have we don't have a. We don't have a tank level issue. We have kind of a capacity issue of delivery. And so I think that's good to draw that line. And then I think it's just good to speak to it plainly. And you've done a fantastic job of that. I know the team is working hard on every time we turn around, it feels like there's another mainline break. So, man, we are thankful for our community and the patience whenever there's an inconvenience like that. We do live in a re

2:36:23 – 2:36:49•Cole Stanley

Right. I appreciate that. Council, you have anything else? Mr. Hooper, thank you. Just continued encouragement to... Keep going with everything you got, and then keep communicating to the public on it. Thank you. We'll move forward from 4.1 to 4.2. Mr. Freeman, you got an update on our budget proposed tax rate, and you need feedback from the council, I believe.

2:50:54 – 2:51:24•Cole Stanley

Well, it's my first time seeing this, so I'm not quite sure that I'm looking at it, right? Can you go back to no new revenue rate, negative 3.4? Right. But voter approval rate 700,000 plus. So where's the zero? Where's the zero option? Well, how do you arrive at 700,000 increase if you pass a 3.5% increase? increase on your rate.

2:51:34 – 2:51:51•Cole Stanley

Well, the rate is adjusted based on values and deductions. Well, but the revenues. You're saying the rate is adjustable based on revenues. So if appraisal values go up, the rate can actually go down, but it revenues the same. We still agree on that.

2:51:54•Cole Stanley

Well, the 3.5% is restricted to the M&O increase, or you're saying it's M&O and INS?

2:52:22 – 2:52:59•Cole Stanley

So have I been miseducated? Do we think in like INS increases based on, there's a law that stated that rate was capped at what, 150 Or what would it be? It'd be $1.50 or $1.80. And right now we're at 10 cents. I don't know exactly what it was, but it was an astronomical increase, right? And I was educated that if we passed debt, right, in an appropriate manner, that can increase. But the M&O side is restricted to 3.5%. Am I educated correctly or incorrectly?

2:53:32 – 2:54:18•Cole Stanley

THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH MY UNDERSTANDING OF TAX RATE. TAX RATE IS NOT CORRELATED TO GROWTH. A COMMUNITY CANNOT BE GROWING AND THE TAX RATE INCREASES FOR THOSE TAX VALUES. and that would be at your limit so the rate fluctuates up and down so i i got credited for lowering people's taxes but i didn't we actually raised their taxes but their rate went down and the reason the rate went down is because their appraisal values went up What you're saying is that if appraisal values go down, our revenues go down. Or if growth slows and new properties don't come on, our revenues go down. But we're not

2:54:39•Cole Stanley

So let me go back to my original question. If we just wanted to have a zero, no increase in revenues, what would that rate be?

2:54:57•Cole Stanley

SO IF WE TELL OUR CONSTITUENTS, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES IN ORDER TO BRING NEW REVENUES IN, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOUR TAX RATE FLAT, THAT WOULD BE .4442.

2:55:13 – 2:55:56•Cole Stanley

Well, I understand that. Yeah, so like the tax rate on the INS side has gone up and you just did a good job of presenting. We would be representing to our constituents that we are raising their tax rate one penny in order to borrow all the monies that we're trying to borrow. And that would be equatable within the, now there's .101 instead of .9 out of it and it's no longer 33 cents. It's 32 cents and you factor that. Okay, I don't think I'm lost here. I don't understand what the correlation is. The INS side went up a penny. Why would we be losing 3.4 million in revenue?

2:58:44 – 2:59:11•Les Simpson

What are we forecasting? Because it seems like, I don't know, sales tax got revised. But how much more sales tax are we saying we're going to bring in versus budget in 25-26? Because the version I had, I guess the original version before we found the million dollars, was about 5.6. 5.6 additional? compared to what we had in the budget.

2:59:19 – 2:59:44•Les Simpson

So in sales tax, we collected $9 million more this year than we thought we were going to collect, which is a good thing. And we're saying we're not going to lose that $9 million next year. Right. We're carrying it over and saying we'll bring in 3% on top of that. So we got in $9 million that we had not budgeted anything for. Yes. And we're going to add to that next year.

2:59:49 – 3:00:30•Les Simpson

Well, I think this is exactly the direction that we need to head. I mean, this new information is very unfortunate, but the good thing is we've got sales tax. We've got sales tax that we did not think was going to come into our pocketbooks. We had not allocated it. And so for me, having that sales tax instead of the property tax next year can still, I think, help provide a property tax relief. Because we've had $9 million that we had not planned on that. That was unbudgeted. That was free money for us to spend. And I guess we've either spent it or we're going to sweep it up at the end of the y

3:00:32•Les Simpson

Well, I think a solution to our problem here, if we still want to provide property tax relief, is we've got the sales tax.

3:01:09 – 3:01:23•Les Simpson

It went in this year's budget. This year's. Yeah. What I'm saying, we got $9 million more this year. We never budgeted the expenses for it. We had that. We could use it for whatever. and now we're increasing it next year.

3:01:54 – 3:02:51•Cole Stanley

Yes. OK, so forgive me for going back, but we did a math problem. Councilman tips and myself, I think we're, you know, 700,000 that doesn't look right. Each penny. Increase revenues 1.6M total for the city. Let's say it's 1.5. so if you raise a penny or 2 pennies or whatever that 3.5% is right. So we question the 700. We were given information that we were supposed to have confidence in that like, no, we've done the math problem. And that is what it is. If you increase the 3.5%, you'll realize 700K. So I'm still questioning that. And then what we're saying here today is we didn't do the math p

3:03:16 – 3:03:35•Cole Stanley

Okay, so that's progress. So if you, if you did the calculation and the calculations done correctly. Then we have a differential of what is a positive 700 K. To a negative 3.4, right? So 4.3Million dollar difference. Roughly. In three pennies.

3:03:36 – 3:04:14•Cole Stanley

Or what would the pennies be? Somebody give me the pennies. 3.5% difference or change. Two and a half. Two and a half pennies. Okay. And that takes into account the additional values that were brought onto tiers that pays out. But we didn't lower any values. You don't go and deduct that amount out of the tiers. It's in addition to what we already realized in there for general fund. And then you're also saying there's some frozen taxes? Yeah, the tax freezes grow. And so the tax freezes grow, but then those are a realized deduction every year?

3:04:21 – 3:05:13•Cole Stanley

So the growth. Well, hang on. I want to make sure like so I don't have a tax freeze, right? But my dad does, right? So his his taxes, my rate moves as much as it needs to but his taxes stay frozen right so my rate moved a little bit more the more of uh people you know have that frozen tax right and so you have to make it up somewhere else yes but you're showing that as a loss and i think that's what is the confusing it's a new loss because more took advantage of that tax break that tax freeze but i think the confusing part is you're showing it as a negative And I think if we said, okay, if you

3:05:21 – 3:05:40•Cole Stanley

But the certified values, they are going to move every year. They do. And that is why the rate moves up and down in accordance with the no new revenue flat. So if the certified values move up, then the no new revenue rate moves down from existing rate.

3:05:56 – 3:06:34•Cole Stanley

So let's take it to the example of the actual individual. So we have a $200,000 house, right? And it didn't increase in value, it just stayed flat. And so we're saying that the existing rate is what, 43 cents? Is it 43 something? Right. Okay, so if we don't raise, now that particular individual, 200,000, it's flat, they didn't see an appreciation, whatever, and their tax rate, if it stayed the same, they'd pay the same amount in tax. If we lower that tax rate down, because their house went from 200,000 to 210,000, they would pay the same amount in tax.

3:06:45 – 3:07:20•Cole Stanley

So how are we then stipulating that the no new revenue rate is .4217? How are you getting to that number? That's what the formula gives us a 10 page calculation certified by the county and that revenues the exact same amount of money as we did the year before, but some overall, but some of it may have to go to your side. There's the key. So what part of that goes to the side that didn't increase because you just told me that it went from 9 cents to 10 cents on the side, which isn't factored in your three and a half percent increase.

3:07:43•Cole Stanley

Yeah, but we've increased taxes, say, 3%, 3.5%. Then we've gone out and issued debt that came on the tax roll.

3:08:46•Cole Stanley

Yeah, you raised it one penny in order to pay an additional 2.6 million in debt service.

3:08:59 – 3:09:14•Cole Stanley

So, well, but you just put them together. So, like, we're not separating M&O and INS, treating them separately. We're saying we factor them separately, but then we can join those together to get our new revenue rate? Correct. And that total cannot exceed 3.5%?

3:09:35 – 3:10:22•Cole Stanley

The INS side can go up without a restriction, right? You could double it. You could go from $0.10 one year to $0.20 the next year, right, legally. Okay, so there's no constraints on the INS side. But we are now saying that on the M&O side, we factor in the constraints from the INS increase. The calculation does. The calculation does. So if you did increase, let's say you doubled your INS side because you borrowed a bunch of money, what would that do to your 3.5%? and that'd be a whole different calculation we'd have to run. So we don't know. We don't know. But how do we know that we factored i

3:10:55 – 3:11:35•Cole Stanley

So how do we get to zero? And this is where I'm hung up. So if we had gone through budget workshop, And you guys have come in and said, look, after factoring all of this, you're going to see if you raise the taxes, you know, you're the maximum. And you all vote for that. You're going to see four point two million dollar increase that we're going to go put in your budget. Because if you leave the taxes flat, you're going to have a no new revenue rate. Like, how do we get back to zero? zero in rate or zero in revenue? I'm just saying like the rate itself that we would say we wanted to pass in or

3:12:12 – 3:13:03•Cole Stanley

we're in my head we're conflating our role a little bit with prad like prad's role is to move people's values up and down and that will affect their their tax value with taxable value our role is just the rate so yes we we don't we don't get over into the lane but we we as council we get to vote for a rate that either increases revenues by collecting more tax money from those property payers, or we hold the tax flat and we calculate that to be in concordance or in line with the updated values. And so why are we not doing that here? We've done that here. Okay. And then we factored in the INS si

3:13:15 – 3:13:27•Cole Stanley

Okay, so let's assume here that we were a small community and we didn't really have a lot of experience with this and that the states got this implemented and we had a question. Who would we reach out to to say, can you check our math?

3:13:33•Cole Stanley

Well, they certified the values. No. Oh, they are?

3:13:56 – 3:14:20•Cole Stanley

So we have two different entities that are both working on this. And they are both saying this, that if you hold to the no new revenue rate, you lower the taxes. And you're going to realize that to the equation of 3.5 million. So your taxpayer, if we just hold to the no new revenue rate, they actually would pay less per house in taxes.

3:14:46•Cole Stanley

Well, I think after sitting through three days of budget workshop and not seeing these, and then for the first time today.

3:14:58 – 3:15:22•Cole Stanley

Well, no, I mean, I think if we had voted on it back then and said, this is what council wanted, like we would have worked off of. $0 impact at the 42 cents. Now we're saying it's different. So yes, I think the confidence that is, are we now factoring this correctly? I think that needs to be explored. So how do we explore that? How do we make sure that we've done this calculation right?

3:15:25•Cole Stanley

Okay? So who at the state offers help and assistance if we were lost?

3:15:50•Cole Stanley

Does our local COG do this for some of their other communities? Do they assist in that? Don't know.

3:16:34 – 3:17:21•Cole Stanley

I'll tell you what I'd like to do. Honestly, I don't think I have a math problem here. I think I have an interpretation of the law or the application of the law, right? So if the intent of the law from, let's say, the state Is we want communities to be able to communicate that they held their taxes flat, but they realized a loss in revenues because of this. And we're okay with that. Like, I think I think I can and I think we can, you know. I WAS ON A CALL WITH GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S OFFICE LAST WEEK THROUGH OUR REPRESENTATIVE FAIRLY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE EASY FOR US TO REACH OUT TO OUR REPRESENTAT

3:17:24•Cole Stanley

YOU DON'T THINK THAT GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAS AIDES THAT SPECIALIZE IN THIS?

3:17:48 – 3:18:14•Cole Stanley

My question is, we're filling out a complicated document that we're not explaining right now very well. And then it assesses something that represents to our public that we're holding your taxes flat. There's no new revenue, right? So we're having zero new revenue. It doesn't say negative revenue. It says no new revenue, right? So I'd want to change that wording to this is our negative revenue rate.

3:19:02•Cole Stanley

Yeah, I just simply disagree that that rate has to be that rate if all we're trying to achieve is no new revenue.

3:19:39 – 3:20:03•Cole Stanley

The staff is just data entering this into the tabulated chart. Data entering, yes. And it spits out whatever the rate is, right? And then you calculate how much that cost us for operations. And there's a calculation there on the INS side. And I'm just saying, I don't know, I don't know enough to know better, right?

3:22:16 – 3:22:31•Cole Stanley

I don't like the law on this thing So I don't know if it's very convoluted at Councilman Simpson when you're saying the trust issues, so I don't think he does I don't think he has any issues but outside of the trust issues Councilman read so

3:22:52•Les Simpson

Not necessarily. No. I mean, it could come from anywhere in the budget.

3:23:04 – 3:24:26•Cole Stanley

Well, I think you've got $5.5 million in. What's the line item there, capital improvement? Is that the line item? Can we pull that budget up? If you if we were like, you know, we just don't have the money so if we don't have the money we don't have the money and we don't Necessarily go back and try to take it away from our number one need which is personnel and and paying appropriately And we've worked real hard to move the budget forward. So I think what you're gonna Impact here is some of those capital projects Those are one-time dollars not necessarily go to the can we get the budget up? Go

3:24:33 – 3:24:52•Cole Stanley

And so everything represented up above it is the ongoing M&O side, and this is just part of the additional monies we made in sales tax, right? Okay, so we revenue this year $10 million that we haven't spent, right, in sales tax?

3:24:59 – 3:25:24•Cole Stanley

Well, assuming we're running budgets and we're balanced and we're serving the public and meeting all of our obligations, we're exceeding our sales tax projections. Nobody's come to us and said, hey, you're over budget. We're going to need that sales tax. So now we've got $10 million at the end of this year, and you guys are pushing it all forward into CIP projects of, what, $13 million? Yes, that's part of that $13 million calculation.

3:25:25 – 3:26:45•Cole Stanley

And so if we've got an ongoing comfort, we've got some other revenues. Would you mind going up to the top? So when you get the breakdowns on the 271, you know, you've got all of those. Additional business fees licenses stuff like that. We were asking about I think it was five million But it was down from six and a half million or so. So I'm still gonna advocate that I think We would need to look at even E&I I THINK WE NEED TO BE PERSONNEL HEAVY IN HOW WE BALANCE THIS BUDGET. SO WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS. I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN TIPS TALKING ABOUT FRUSTRATION. SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT

3:27:20 – 3:27:43•Cole Stanley

And then we aren't realizing any efficiencies based on like where we were just because our projected year end is in line with kind of what you guys proposed previously. So we're not forecasting an excess sales tax income. Revenues went up, and we brought it in under budget. Ms. Stephanie, can you go down a little further?

3:27:46 – 3:28:54•Cole Stanley

Mm-hmm. Can you go down a little further? So that $287 million, if you take that $5 million out of it, right, which is general construction or whatever, you'd be at your balanced budget roughly, right? What you're projecting. What are we bringing in? $283 million up at the top? I can't remember. $280 million. Okay, well, I feel like we represented a scenario where the tax rate now has become an issue of like, well, we didn't understand when this calculation that it wasn't just a positive 700K you could vote for, you would actually have to vote... if you held the no new revenue rate, you would

3:29:43•Cole Stanley

So we didn't raise taxes even though we raised the rate. Well, we didn't raise revenue. We're keeping revenue flat. Keeping the rate flat.

3:31:04•Cole Stanley

Councilman Simpson, are you still thinking about tax relief?

3:31:10 – 3:32:14•Les Simpson

Yeah, I mean, you know, I apologize. We're probably the most frustrated I've been in three years. And I understand that we didn't run it, but we talked about it on the first day. And, you know, this really puts us in a bind up here. And I want to do the best I can. But also, when you look at the history, and I've set up here and I've raised people's taxes. And you want to know how much I've raised them? The budget approved from the time I took office, property taxes, according to my, and I could be wrong, we've raised them 26.6%. That's 16% on M&O and almost 75% in INS. And we had to do those

3:32:14 – 3:32:41•Cole Stanley

Can we look at this document that's up here? So is City Secretary or Lola able to... work that one. This is coming from Mrs. McMurray, right? And so this is their calculations, their numbers, and they're giving us a no new revenue rate? Yes, sir. That's great. So can we show here where that would equate to a negative 3.4 million in our revenues?

3:32:59 – 3:33:33•Cole Stanley

Okay. So I'm just reading this at face value, right? I mean, appraised values in 26 were $25,000. 25.7 billion. Taxable values are down to 20.9 billion, right? So everybody's tax values went down. Okay, so everybody should assume that their rate would have to adjust up for them to pay the same amount in property taxes?

3:33:43 – 3:34:03•Cole Stanley

But then they're proposing the rate at the no new revenue rate to be below our 43 cents down to 42 cents. But they're representing that we have a $5 million depreciation in overall values. And then they're representing that the rate would only go up to 0.44

3:34:11 – 3:35:25•Cole Stanley

Okay. Yeah, I think I just need some time going through the math problem, and then I want to reach out to the state. So comptroller's office would be a good one. And it is what it is, right? But, I mean, I don't think we can go and do an on-camera interview for our media personnel based on this lack of understanding that we have. I don't think that I can explain to my constituents that – you know, we would run a $3.4 million deficit if we just kept their tax rate flat. And that if I increase their rate, I actually did not increase their taxes. And so, like, what we're saying is I would be in f

3:35:37 – 3:36:00•Cole Stanley

Yeah, what I'm proposing is just some time outside of this discussion to get acquainted with this and that I'm always good to ask for help and education. I feel like I've been miseducated, not to any of y'all's fault, but in the way that this works at the state level. And so I need a little bit better education before I'm going to want to do an on-camera interview.

3:36:37 – 3:37:29•Les Simpson

I understand that the form is frustrating, but what's frustrating is that we just didn't run the numbers the both way when we were talking about this. during budget. Understood. That's frustrating. And I would think that we, I know we maybe have never used that scenario before, but, but if you go look, take out rate, take out appraisals. If you look at how much money we're getting more property tax every year, somebody's paying some more money, maybe not across the board. We're in this budget has us taking more. property tax with the rate that was put in there and increased. All I'm saying is,

3:37:31 – 3:40:23•Cole Stanley

OKAY. SO LET ME MOVE THE CONVERSATION FORWARD. WE DON'T RUN THE CITY ON PROPERTY TAXES. SO NEED EVERYBODY TO HEAR THAT. WE'RE PROPOSING A 280 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET OF WHICH 61 MILLION IS COMING IN IN PROPERTY TAXES. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT, THREE, THREE AND A HALF MILLION DIFFERENCE UP OR DOWN? SO THAT MEANS 90, 91 MILLION IS COMING IN IN SALES TAXES. AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS COMING IN IN BUSINESS FEES, USER FEES, USAGE. So we don't run the city on your property taxes. So we can say we want property tax relief. Okay, that's helpful, right? Or we can say, let's just hold the proper

3:40:28•Les Simpson

Well, I think the decision to make on the 8th, which I think has to be made on the 8th, is that correct? So we have a deadline to meet.

3:40:37 – 3:40:55•Les Simpson

So the question is, is council comfortable with the voter-approved tax rate, which only means that it's a rate that cannot exceed? I guess we can come down. Or are we more comfortable with the no new revenue rate? I mean, that's the two decisions. That's the choices. Or is there another choice?

3:41:12•Les Simpson

So you need a direction on what that rate needs to be in order for it to be published and be out there.

3:43:29•Cole Stanley

Councilman, were you done with that question? Yes. Did you have a question of not factored into the budget? Is there a question of whether that 1.2 is factored in?

3:43:51 – 3:45:13•Cole Stanley

So it is up for consideration? Everything is. OK. Council, on item 4.2 here, do we have other questions, concerns, or direction that can be offered? Let me give one direction. I have always voted for the budget as a whole. I know that the budget language is important, the way we register the votes, that we raise our hands, we state it. I think with this budget and us working very diligently and me hearing a pretty diverse council that's considering a lot of options, I'd like to propose the budget to be voted on broken down in segments. Now, how we break that down, I'm not quite sure, but I thi

3:45:18 – 3:45:34•Cole Stanley

I think if we get maybe legal to give a little guidance on since how we'll have to propose that, that way it's not anything we're trying to do last minute. AND THEN LET'S GIVE EVERYBODY THE UPDATE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING WHEN FOR THE FIRST READING, THE 22ND?

3:45:39•Cole Stanley

SO WE HAVE SOME HOMEWORK TO DO OURSELVES BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER 8TH, BUT I'M NOT HEARING COUNCIL NEEDS ANY FURTHER MEETINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

3:45:53 – 4:11:36•Cole Stanley

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I don't know what else to say. Let's take a 15 minute recess. Thank you. All right, everybody, thank you for hanging around, tuning back in. We've completed all of our discussion items. Well, we have not. Let me go to item 4.3 and ask for potential future agenda item requests from council. Do I have any? Okay, we'll move on now to Section 5 on the agenda, which is public comment. Appreciate everyone staying. Ms. City Secretary, if you don't mind to read us into public comment and call up our first speaker.

4:17:23•Cole Stanley

We'll see what else we can do. Thank you.

4:48:39 – 4:49:00•Cole Stanley

Thank you. Do I have anyone else here who'd like to offer public comment today? All right. We're going to go ahead and move forward. That concludes Section 5. We'll move into Section 6, Consent Agenda. Council, do I have anything you'd like to pull off? for consideration.

4:49:24 – 4:49:35•Cole Stanley

Do I have anything else on that item? Council, anything else you want to discuss or pull off? Would request a motion.

4:49:43 – 4:50:01•Cole Stanley

I have a motion and a second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes with a 4-0 vote. OK. Let's move into our non-consent agenda. Item 7.1. Let's see who we got here. Is that you, Mr. Harder?

4:51:26•Cole Stanley

No worries. Questions on this one for Mr. Harder? No? Okay. What's your request on this?

4:51:45•Cole Stanley

So the agreement will come back at a future date for the $90,000 match?

4:51:57•Cole Stanley

Okay. Anything further, gentlemen? Item 7.1 is before you.

4:52:13 – 4:52:28•Cole Stanley

Second. Motion and a second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes with a 4-0 vote. Item 7.2, Mr. Danforth. Should we take this out of order and make you 7-3? This will be the first time you didn't have to go last.

4:54:00•Cole Stanley

Questions for Mr. Danforth? No? Mr. Danforth, how much is the available balance to be transferred from that project?

4:54:28•Cole Stanley

What's the existing funding, roughly, for the CAP project, 0113? You have plenty of funding in there?

4:54:52•Cole Stanley

Okay, hard question. What does E&I stand for?

4:55:23•Cole Stanley

REAL GOOD, SIR. I WAS THINKING IT WAS EXTENSIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

4:55:31•Cole Stanley

IT IS A LINE ITEM THAT IS BUDGETED IN THE BUDGETS MOST YEARS, AND THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT SOMEWHAT AS A CONTINGENCY WHEN YOU NEED IT.

4:55:45 – 4:56:19•Cole Stanley

OKAY. I DO KNOW, THANK YOU, MR. DANFORTH, NOT TO GET OFF SUBJECT, BUT I DO KNOW IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP WE HAD ASKED FOR, I THINK I HAD ASKED, ALL LISTED ENI AMOUNTS IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET. IF WE COULD GET THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN LOOKING FORWARD TO MAYBE TRYING TO MAKE UP A LITTLE GROUND FROM EARLIER. SO THE ASSOCIATED DEPARTMENT OR FUND AND THE ENI AMOUNT, PLEASE. GENTLEMEN, BACK ON TARGET. ITEM 7.2 IS BEFORE YOU. I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS HAD ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT IF SO, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

4:56:25•Cole Stanley

Second. Motion and a second on 7.2. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes with a 4-0 vote. Okay, last one. Mr. Conner.

4:57:59•Tim Reid

Thank you, Mr. Conner. Questions for Michael?

4:58:27 – 4:58:42•Cole Stanley

Okay. So I appreciate the caution on that. I'm curious if council wanted to amend that you feel like the notice is still inadequate. The funds are existing in the existing airport funds, and they're staying within that fund.

4:58:52 – 4:59:07•Cole Stanley

And so, okay, well, we appreciate the guidance. Mr. Connor, what does that do to you? Would you prefer to come back? We take no action on this one or go ahead, take the action for 100, let you come back next meeting for another 100.

4:59:14•Cole Stanley

Okay, that'd be great. Council, y'all have questions on that? Okay. Any issues with it? All right. Item 7.3 is before you.

4:59:31 – 4:59:51•Cole Stanley

Second. Motion is second with no further discussion. For $100,000, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for participating in today's meeting. Council, if we can get a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. So moved. You're adjourned. Thank you all.

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