City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, August 25, 2026Official site

The Auburn City Council study session included presentations on Pierce Transit's Proposition 1 ballot measure, the city's Community Fitness Program, and proposed updates to daycare and live-work zoning codes. Additionally, staff provided guidance to elected officials on social media use and public records compliance.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Auburn, WA
Meeting Date
August 25, 2026

Published excerpts

Only published remarks appear here. The full transcript is not published.

93 sections (from 96 segments)

0:16 – 0:27•Clinton Taylor

I just want to go on the record for saying that, you know, I'll say it later. What's that?

0:47 – 1:14•Clinton Taylor

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT TUESDAY IS MY BIRTHDAY, AND I'M ONLY SAYING THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO GO OUT OF YOUR WAY AND DO NOTHING, ALL THAT, JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF. A SIMPLE GUY. I REMEMBERED THAT EXACTLY.

1:18•Clinton Taylor

NO, NOT THIS TUESDAY. YOU'RE GIVING US ENOUGH NOTICE.

1:24•Cheryl Rakes

I DIDN'T THINK OF IT THAT WAY. WELL, HE'S TELLING US THAT WE KNOW FOR NEXT MONDAY.

1:32•Hanan Amer

I was just saying next week is my birthday, but you don't have to go out of your way to do anything special now

2:01•Clinton Taylor

I don't want to put any pressure on anybody or anything like that. So just, you know, just FYI, that's all.

2:10•Cheryl Rakes

I can't believe we heard that same speech last week.

2:31 – 2:43•Tracy Taylor-Turner

GOOD EVENING. I WILL NOW CALL THE AUBURN STUDY SESSION MEETING FROM MONDAY, AUGUST 24TH, 2026 TO ORDER. TONIGHT'S STUDY SESSION MEETING WILL BE HELD BOTH IN PERSON AND VIRTUALLY. SEAN, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL?

2:54•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Thank you, Sean. Do we have any agenda modifications this evening?

3:01•Tracy Taylor-Turner

All right, our first item tonight is the Pierce Transit Proposition 1, More Within Reach presentation provided by Pierce Transit. If you wouldn't mind coming up to that.

19:18•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Thank you for your presentation. Council, any questions for our guests? Council Member Baldwin.

19:23 – 19:36•Kate Baldwin

Yeah. One question that I had is you made note that with these changes that you would be connecting into the Federal Way light rail station or stations potentially. The one that's there on 320 with

20:13•Tracy Taylor-Turner

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? COUNCILMEMBER BALDWIN?

20:17 – 21:20•Kate Baldwin

YEAH, THE REASON I WAS ASKING ABOUT THAT IS BEING ABLE TO GET FROM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF CORE TACOMA OR SOME OF YOUR OUTLYING AREAS, THE FEDERAL WAY TRANSIT STATION AT 320 RIGHT NOW, AS WELL AS THE SOUNDER STATION IN AUBURN, are both going to be able to connect you into even bigger transit opportunities. And I feel like this is fabulous, but I just really wish that I could see a direct into those two stations because that immediately expands possibilities and opportunities for your riders to be able to go not just to Seattle, but to Linwood and Everett and other places, you know, much farther, de

23:13 – 23:34•Hanan Amer

Council Member Amherst. I have a question. Correct me. So I see the bus station coming straight to here from Tacoma to here to Auburn Station. Is that correct? Yeah, the one in the map, you show it, the 497. 497? Yes.

23:56•Hanan Amer

SO THIS ONE WILL COME FROM TACOMA TO AUBURN STATION, IS THAT CORRECT?

24:04 – 24:54•Hanan Amer

OUT TO THE SOUNDER. OKAY. BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, USUALLY, WHEN YOU RIDE THE PASS, IT'S USUALLY HARD TO FIND PASSWORD, TAKE YOU, LIKE, FROM HERE, LIKE, FROM TACOMA STRAIGHT. SO YOU CAN HOP TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IF THIS WILL BE EVERY 10, 15 MINUTES, THAT MEANS THIS IS IMPROVEMENT RATHER THAN YOU WAIT hour or every 30 minutes. So I like the idea, like, there is no waiting. I ride bus, and they know the separation, even here in Auburn, between north and south, and you need to take a bus to get. So just to have the time, I think it's a good idea and a lot of improvement, because we have a lot of bus

24:54 – 25:24•Lisa Stirgus

YOU MENTIONED BRIEFLY THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR STATE HAS DECIDED THAT YOU GUYS ARE FUNDED BY SALES TAX. AND SO, TO ME, I'M JUST GETTING INCREASINGLY SENSITIVE, OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS, BUT INCREASINGLY SENSITIVE ABOUT TAX INCREASES FOR EVERYTHING. AND SO IS THERE DISCUSSION, ARE YOU HAVING DISCUSSION AT THE LEGISLATURE AROUND HOW IS THERE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THAT MODEL WHERE THE STATE HELPS FUND IT MORE OR I DON'T KNOW.

26:30•Tracy Taylor-Turner

So, Councilmember Lott, did you have your hand up?

26:34 – 26:45•Brian Lott

Yeah. Yeah, I just had a question about 497 there. I think it was mentioned earlier it was 20,000 a year. TRIPS. IS THAT 20,000 INDIVIDUAL ROUND TRIPS OR EACH WAY?

26:45•Tracy Taylor-Turner

THREE, 20, 25, YEAH. THAT'S PASSENGER TRIPS.

26:59•Kate Baldwin

COUNCILMEMBER BALDWIN. AND WILL THERE BE ANY SERVICE CHANGES ON THE 497?

27:19 – 27:41•Lisa Stirgus

Council Member Sturgis. So going back, I'm just trying to understand. So is that, so there's, I know that the RCW says that currently. So why is there no way to change that? And not saying that you're not doing all the work to try to. This is a question to our state that I will, you know, go research more. But I'm curious just of what you, what your thoughts are.

29:19•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Question would be, how much of the sales tax revenue is projected to come from the Auburn service area?

29:45 – 30:11•Kate Baldwin

That was the point I was going to have you clarify for folks who are watching is I'm sure they're looking at this and saying, oh, my goodness, you know, this increase on sales tax. I have concerns about that as a shopper. But that sales tax increase is only applicable to people who are doing that shopping in Pierce County. So just reaffirming that so they don't see all of Auburn and wonder, well, hey, is this going to affect me up here in different neighborhoods?

30:27•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Any more questions, Council? I see none.

31:26•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Well, thank you for your time. Thank you for your presentation. Oh, excuse me. Council Member Baldwin.

31:31 – 32:33•Kate Baldwin

Yeah, I just wanted to say that I think the changes that you're making in this for the regions that you do have that high coverage are fantastic. Being able to go to a more consistent, higher rate of buses going through areas and neighborhoods is going to increase the likelihood of people wanting to take advantage of it. I think that those changes that you're making are smart and needed and I think with having you know close to 300,000 people that are going to be coming into the area you know getting ahead of that challenge is critical So just for folks who are out there, I think that this is

32:40•Clinton Taylor

I LIVED OVER THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND I WAS LIKE, WOW. YEAH, SO THANK YOU FOR, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

32:51•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Okay, next up is our community wellness discussion items. I'm going to turn the meeting over to Councilmember Taylor.

32:57 – 33:10•Clinton Taylor

Thank you, Deputy Mayor. So at this time, we have our Director, Director Krueger, and her staff, and they're going to present on our community fitness wellness program.

50:40 – 51:13•Hanan Amer

COUNCILMEMBER AMMER, START YOU OFF WITH THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. I WAS SCARED. YOU KNOW ME. IT'S THE ONLY PLACE I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE, THE FITNESS ROOM. I THINK NOW AFTER ALL THIS PRESENTATION, I PROBABLY WANT TO BE A MEMBER. AND GUYS, I CAME FROM MIDDLE EAST. WE DON'T SAY HOW OLD WE ARE, AND NOW YOU PUT 50 AS A SENIOR? I'M 25. WE WON'T ASK YOU HOW OLD YOU ARE. WE'LL JUST ASK YOU WHICH MEMBERSHIP YOU WANT TO SIGN UP FOR. NO, I LOVE IT, AND I THINK My husband will sign. My husband will be a member, too.

51:16•Hanan Amer

She'll be around. Thank you, guys. Thank you for all what you do.

51:54 – 52:05•Clinton Taylor

Thank you. I had a question about the child care. So the hours the parents have to drop them off there, or do you pick them up?

52:30•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Thank you. Thank you, Chair. Can we talk about adaptive fitness programs today? Sure. Do we, there are options available, yes?

54:03•Clinton Taylor

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT AS MOBILITY CHALLENGE MEETING. ANYWAY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YES, COUNCIL MEMBER.

54:11 – 55:02•Kate Baldwin

YEAH, THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND GIVES A GOOD OVERVIEW OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS OFFER, WHICH IS ABUNDANT. AND I LOVE THE RATES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KEEP THINGS AFFORDABLE SO FOLKS CAN GET IN AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AS WELL AS THE RATES FOR THE CHILDCARE. I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, I used to charge my aunt more for that when I was a teenager. So the rates are going to be hard to beat. The one question I have, and this is perhaps a little bit silly, but for your classes, I have seen something that is beginning to trend in Japan and some other countries where they are brin

56:01 – 56:17•Kate Baldwin

I've seen some videos and I'm shocked at how well you see these seniors kind of go through different motions of movement, uh, where they're, you know, like, you know, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALMOST DOING GYMNASTIC SOMETIMES. IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE.

56:23•Kate Baldwin

I WAS GOING TO SAY, THE LAST TIME I DID ONE OF THOSE CLASSES, I GOT MYSELF OVER A WAIST HEIGHT BARRIER AT A MODERATE SPEED AND WAS RATHER PROUD OF MYSELF. BUT, YEAH, THOSE ARE FUN.

56:35 – 56:57•Tracy Taylor-Turner

THANK YOU. CHAIR, CURIOUS ABOUT THE SELECTION FOR FITNESS IN THE PARKS. ARE WE EXPLORING, LIKE, DIFFERENT PARKS? JUST BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DO FALL IN LINE WHERE WE EXPECT IT TO BE AT LESKOV OR MAYBE SUNSET PARK OR WHATNOT. BUT SOME OF OUR LESS VISITED PARKS, ARE WE LOOKING INTO MAYBE BRINGING SOME OF THAT PROGRAMMING INTO SOME OF THOSE?

59:24 – 59:43•Cheryl Rakes

I have a question. This might be a little complicated question, but this is going on in our family right now. My granddaughter has a little one that's type 1 diabetes, and no fitness center will let her take her in to where the children are. Is that the same way with the parks?

1:00:16•Cheryl Rakes

That's good, because there isn't very many places that they can go with them.

1:00:34 – 1:00:52•Brian Lott

Yeah, I'm You talk about all these great services and I keep on thinking, how do we get the word out to the community of everything you're thinking about doing as well as what you are doing now? And I'd be real interested to hear not in this session, but what your ideas are in getting the word out to the community.

1:03:51•Lisa Stirgus

With, do you guys share your programs consistently with the Auburn school, with all the Auburn schools to like send information home to parents or?

1:05:35 – 1:06:21•Clinton Taylor

Questions? Well, I would like to say thank you because I used to be a team coordinator at the park. So for years and just a lot of the things that you guys are doing, I wish we would have had half of that, a fraction of that back in the day. But it's great to see all of the ways that you can engage the community. And I like the idea of the whole family. And I know that a lot of times it is just... THE CHALLENGE OF GETTING THEM IN THE DOOR THAT FIRST TIME. I'VE SEEN FAMILIES COME AND, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD ALL THIS. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOIN

1:06:26•Tracy Taylor-Turner

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR. ALL RIGHT, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ORDINANCE 7025 PROVIDED BY DIRECTOR CRUM, PLEASE.

1:12:10•Kate Baldwin

With the removal of the adult daycare references, is there anything in code that's going to continue to speak to those facilities?

1:13:06•Kate Baldwin

Could you run through once more in residential it would be permitted?

1:13:37 – 1:14:20•Kate Baldwin

neighborhoods if that's your question yeah basically to clarify is we absolutely have a need for more childcare centers but we also have a generation you know the boomer generation that's going to be shifting into later age and so being able to have more centers for those seniors as they're getting to different phase of their life where they may need more you know, adult daycare supports around them for themselves and for the caregivers supporting them. I just want to make sure that with the change to focus the language in this ordinance on child care that we still have accommodations for the

1:14:44 – 1:15:01•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Council, any more questions? I see none. Thank you very much. Thank you. Our next ordinance will be Ordinance 7026. Director Crump?

1:20:39 – 1:21:00•Clinton Taylor

THANK YOU, DEBORAH MAYOR. THIS SLIDE BACK WHERE I WAS TRYING TO WRITE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON HERE. OH, IS IT? NO, IT'S NOT. SO THE ONE ABOUT THE REMOVING OF THE APARTMENTS. WHY WAS THAT ADDED? LET'S SEE. ONE MORE BACK. YEAH, APARTMENTS ARE NO LONGER PART OF MIXED USE. WHY?

1:21:25 – 1:21:49•Lisa Stirgus

Thank you. Thank you so much for the information. Based on, you said this one isn't like the other one where it's a bill change that's requiring it. So do we have a lot of requests for this? And if so, what types of businesses are typically the businesses that owners are wanting to live in their unit?

1:23:25 – 1:24:36•Kate Baldwin

YEAH. MY QUESTION COMES BACK TO HOW WE'RE DECIDING who gets to live in one of these types of buildings. Because when I think about people who are starting businesses, oftentimes it's gonna be someone maybe working with a family member who might not be in the, I think in the proposed code language it said like a single household, but a situation where it could be two siblings together where maybe one owns the business and the other one is an employee that could be taking advantage of the living portion of that in support of it or a parent and their kid or cousins or nieces or nephews. I mean, I

1:25:52 – 1:26:12•Brian Lott

Following up on that, if it was a partnership, how would that work? If you had a partner that, two partners, one owned the building, but it's a partnership, and the other didn't, would that still, would they be able to get a business license? Because everything you've talked about sounds like a sole proprietorship, single owner.

1:27:49 – 1:28:52•Lisa Stirgus

And I think just for clarification, because I've seen the model, I mean, the model is awesome and it works really well in a lot of cases where, I mean, if you have someone who owns the home and then makes it storefront into the front, so like a shoe repair place or watch repair, jewelry repair, We've seen that work really well. But then also there's lease options as well. So if a developer is building these units and they're gonna be a landlord, then the business owner can go in and lease the unit and they're running their business in the front like an alteration store and then they're living

1:29:05•Lisa Stirgus

So it's not an opportunity for a developer to come in and build?

1:29:23 – 1:29:58•Clinton Taylor

Just so I'm tracking, because I'm visualizing an example of that right now, and I could be wrong, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe there's something similar like that with the gentleman who lives down the street here who owns the watch shop. who does the watch repair shop, and they live, the building, the house, they live there, and in the section they just, I guess they come downstairs and there's a watch repair shop. And I know they've been there for several years. So is that what we're, something similar to like that, is that what we're talking about?

1:30:36•Kate Baldwin

Is there a requirement then if the building is set up as a live work that they have to have a business?

1:31:11 – 1:32:50•Kate Baldwin

Council Member Baldwin. If we can require that the business owner has to be the occupant, I don't see how we could. I feel like if we can require one, we should be able to require the other if it's a necessary part of the live work process. the live work definition yeah part of the live work definition because the concern that I have seeing challenges that we've had in other areas of the city where you know there's intention to have storefront or there's intention to have commerce and there's not any type of check or balance to ensure that that that is happening I think I would maybe be hesita

1:32:57 – 1:33:21•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Director Crum, I have a question. Is there a model similar to this that is by the Sounder Station, the Kent-Des Moines Sounder Station that we're looking at, like at that model? Is that what, because I'm trying to envision what this looks like. I know her, her I would say, yeah, explanation and examples are there, but is that something that, is that the same similar model?

1:33:52 – 1:35:18•Lisa Stirgus

Sorry, Council Member Sturgis. Just in response to what you're talking about, I think that, I mean, I would, based on where they're going to build makes the difference there for me. And so if it's in an area where we're trying to build commercial business storefronts, retail storefronts, You know, typically the business owner's intent is that they're going to have a real business there. And that's why they'd even go look for a property like this. And then if it's in a residential, I mean, some of them, I know this is more on the East Coast, but the residential areas where they're built in resi

1:35:18•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Councilor, did you have your hand up? I did.

1:35:21 – 1:35:37•Brian Lott

Yeah, I was just curious. This would trigger if somebody pulled a permit, right? If they were to just go buy a house downtown, and let's say it had something that looked like a storefront on the ground floor, they could live in it. This doesn't trigger until they go pull a permit and say, I want to run a business in the bottom of it.

1:35:59 – 1:36:13•Brian Lott

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. AND THE TRIGGER COULD BE AN APPLICATION FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE AT THE SAME ADDRESS, WHICH TRIGGERS THIS WHOLE SECTION. BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, IT'S JUST A HOUSE OR A BUILDING OR WHAT HAVE YOU WITH THIS EXISTING ZONE.

1:36:21 – 1:37:15•Kate Baldwin

and i think where my head's going is more in the space of a brand new development if we're putting that zoning in and saying hey this is meant to be live work because we're trying to bolster commercial opportunities and i bring it up because i remember when i used to live up around green lake there was a lot of ground floor you know live work uh units that never turned into any type of business at least from what i could tell walking around in the neighborhood it was just a closed door right and so i would hate to see us develop this you know plan to use it in an area or neighborhood and not h

1:37:21 – 1:37:52•Lisa Stirgus

I guess my comment to that would be that for Jason and his team, that's where they're really negotiating with whoever the developer is on the front end. And it doesn't need to be written into code. It would be that if this is a development that's in our city, then your team would be negotiating as you're going through the permitting process with the developer on Hey, we're really looking for this area to fulfill, you know, a certain amount of retail businesses or what have you, but does that have to be put into code?

1:37:56 – 1:38:17•Kate Baldwin

Well, what they said earlier is that developer develops it, but once it's sold, it can be anything. So I think they can build it with that intent, but until whoever purchases it and occupies it, if we don't have something in there, I don't know is that we would have any protections there.

1:38:18 – 1:38:42•Cheryl Rakes

I get what you're saying, Kate, but I've seen this before, and I've seen it in different states. Say they purchase it, they buy it, they open a business. But what if they then something happens economically and they have to close their business? Great question. Then I don't know that we can kick them out if they own the building.

1:38:45 – 1:38:57•Cheryl Rakes

So that would be... My comment, because it does happen with small businesses. They open, they're excited, and then they get six months down to it and they can't afford it.

1:39:04 – 1:40:51•Kate Baldwin

Yeah. And I think the reason I'm bringing these things up is because this is new code, right, that we're talking about, not something that we've had before. Or at least we're adding more detail to try and bolster the definition. And so, you know, I would say from my perspective, I still have concerns about the limitation that it doesn't allow for – business owners who are working with partners or who have multiple stakeholder parties that would be interested maybe in living in it in whatever type of family unit that that could look like. So I would prefer if we could see some flexibility in th

1:40:52 – 1:42:32•Hanan Amer

I LIKE THE IDEA, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SAID THERE IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT THEY WANT TO BUILD IT. BECAUSE I KNOW I SEE SOME AREA WHERE IS THE FRONT STORE EMPTY WHILE IF YOU GO NEAR A STREET LOWS, YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT STORE HOW FULL THEY ARE. LIKE THEY HAVE A GYM, THEY HAVE A CAFE. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO WILL BUY IT, THIS UNIT PROBABLY, YOU CAN HAVE FIVE UNITS AND YOU HAVE ONE AS A LIVE WORK AND MAYBE YOU WILL BE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER OR MAYBE YOU WILL BE THERAPY. I THINK WE SHOULD NOT, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE PROBABLY and work there, and different. I thought Di

1:43:05•Tracy Taylor-Turner

I think with that being said. I don't think we're asking for her to go back to the drawing board, though.

1:44:02 – 1:44:57•Kate Baldwin

I think the... I wouldn't want us to be in a position of kicking people out because they no longer have a business. But I do think that there needs to be you know, some consideration of the fact that without trying to have an assurance that a business will be there and operating that there, then I don't know what the benefit of having live work as a separate designation is per se, because if it can always revert back to residential with no, you know, no fees, no penalties, no anything, I don't know what the, uh, I don't know what the certainty is of having a commercial component of the facilit

1:47:14 – 1:47:33•Brian Lott

Yeah, I think the piece that Excuse me, pause. Is the owner occupied? And I keep on thinking if somebody were to find a lease, they wanted to lease this and live upstairs and do a storefront downstairs, that there ought to be options. There ought to be options for partnerships. There ought to be options for leases. It shouldn't be restricted to just an owner-occupied facility building.

1:47:37•Tracy Taylor-Turner

All right. With any more questions, we won't move on.

1:47:40•Lisa Stirgus

Thank you very much for your presentation.

1:47:46 – 1:48:20•Tracy Taylor-Turner

All right, our next step is the elected officials' social media guidance overview. And City Attorney Whalen. And our CAO, Scott McCall. Oh, wow. And the city clerk. Oh, and the city clerk. All right. And Sean. I'm just going to hide here. Deputy Mayor, can we take a break before we go into executive session? Sure. Can we take, is that, is that okay? Oh, before we go into executive session. Thank you. Yes, we will. Thank you. Thank you, guys.

1:54:06•Tracy Taylor-Turner

OKAY. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL FIRST FOR QUESTIONS, AND THEN I HAVE A FEW THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

1:54:17 – 1:54:46•Hanan Amer

COUNCILMEMBER AMER. I TRIED FINE. Sorry, my question not ready. I was reading that avoid online discussion. I understand that clearly, especially if I want to post something, everybody vote yes and they vote no. That means I will be in violation of our rules and procedure because after the voting, the vote will be the majority vote. IS THAT CORRECT STATEMENT?

1:54:52•Hanan Amer

IF EVERYBODY VOTES FOR SOMETHING, YES, AND ONLY WE VOTE NO, AND THEY GO ON FACEBOOK.

1:55:15 – 1:55:40•Hanan Amer

No, thank you. I don't want to like to create account because that's one thing they think are rules. You cannot block anybody because it's done if you sell. And you be account if you have there is no separation in your life. So I appreciate that, the guidance. I don't like to discuss city business anywhere. I'm sorry.

1:56:12 – 1:56:49•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Thank you. Any other questions? I will ask a few. Let's talk in the sense of I would say some have multiple accounts, right? You have a personal, you have a campaign one, you have a city council one, right? CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PARAMETERS AROUND WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO ON THAT? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ALL OPEN TO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, RIGHT? YOUR PERSONAL, YOUR CAMPAIGN, AND YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER ONE. SO CAN WE KIND OF DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? IT'S LIKE, WHAT IS APPROPRIATE, WHAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW?

2:00:17•Tracy Taylor-Turner

BEFORE I ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER STURGIS.

2:00:24 – 2:01:15•Lisa Stirgus

I guess to me it would be that we should have a leave keep our personal social media personal and that would be for opinions so nothing regarding city of Auburn but then um is it suggested that we we do a separate social media account as a city council member then or um Well, I don't even like social media anyway, so I would not want to have a separate account. So I don't know. I guess because to me it's pretty cut and dry. You're not allowed to speak on behalf of the city. It's in our council rules and procedures that if you do, it has to be in a positive light, but it could be then open for

2:02:17 – 2:02:40•Tracy Taylor-Turner

I'M SORRY. BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? NO. NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, LET'S TALK ABOUT, LIKE, Maybe you don't like somebody's post or their comment to what you do post. You can't delete that. Can we talk about the legality and the issues that come with something or doing something like that?

2:02:44 – 2:03:02•Tracy Taylor-Turner

So, for instance, I make a post about the e-bikes and I'm like, let the kids be kids, you know, or something like that. And somebody's like, they're tearing up our parks and, you know, something like that. I don't like it. I'm like, I don't like it because it doesn't go with what I'm trying to say. And I delete the comment. Obviously, there's repercussions that come with something like that.

2:09:20 – 2:09:50•Tracy Taylor-Turner

So, Council, I guess the question sits is, is this something that we would like to introduce into our council policies and procedures so that there is a guideline on how we conduct ourselves online for not only protections of ourselves, but for the protection of the city? So is this something that we want, Mayor, with your directive, to have legal pull something together to put into our council policy and procedure? Is this something to consider? Council Member Sturgis.

2:09:50 – 2:10:30•Lisa Stirgus

I would say yeah, because I think it's great guidance. I really appreciated, too, just the quick test questions at the end. You know, it seems silly, like common sense, but it's helpful. We do have personal lives, too, and opinions. And so I think that just I thought you guys did a great job. It was really clear and just gave us some good examples. And so as a new council member, you know, being able to get this when you're onboarding either in training or part of the rules and procedures of this is I would hate to add anything to that. But it is good clarity. So I would be in supportive of do

2:10:34 – 2:11:21•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Any other questions for staff? Thank you for your presentation. Appreciate it. NOW, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PER RCW 42.30.110. OH, WAIT. ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND DO IT? OKAY. JUST DO THAT. OKAY. 1101III TO DISCUSS LEGAL COUNCIL REPRESENTING THE AGENCY LITIGATION OR POTENTIAL LITIGATION TO WHICH THE AGENCY IS OR LIKELY TO BECOME A PARTY. WHEN PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGE REGARDING THE DISCUSSION IS LIKELY TO RESULT IN ADVERSE LEGAL OR FINANCIAL CONSEQUENCE TO THE AGENCY, LINK THE TIME FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE HOW ABOUT 15 MINUTES. 15 MINUTES BECAUSE WE BU

2:11:46 – 2:12:13•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Fabulous. We'll do that. Thank you. For ten minutes. For ten minutes. We'll do ten minutes. With that, in addition to Mayor Backus, the City Council, City Attorney Whalen, Chief Administrative Officer Scott McCall, Director of Public Works Ingrid Galb, and Megan Udame, Government Relations Policy Advisor, are required to attend. There will be no action following the executive session. So we'll take a five-minute recess. Yeah, we'll come back. Okay, so. 7.54. 7.54. Thanks.

2:48:46 – 2:48:58•Tracy Taylor-Turner

We are back to 816. Council, this is the section of the agenda where we can share topics of interest and or reports on special focus area matters. Reports should be limited to five minutes. We'll start with Councilmember Amar.

2:48:59 – 2:49:36•Lisa Stirgus

Nothing to report, Council Member Sturgis. The SFA for October 12th, I believe, is the date for the next study session. There'll be an update. Chief Collier's just confirming that for Project BeFree. And then also Candace is putting together plan to put a presentation and give us an update on all things court. She may be coming to us prior to that, though, for a budget amendment because they need to be able to have staff to continue propping up the court. But she has a great update. She's preparing for October 12th. Thank you. Council Member Lott?

2:49:38 – 2:49:54•Tracy Taylor-Turner

Council Member Baldwin? Nothing to report. Council Member Rakes. No report. Council Member Taylor. Thank you. Mine is very quick. We met today for the NLC, Transportation Infrastructure Committee Board, and we've got some things coming

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