Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

all right good morning everyone welcome to the tuesday august 26 20 20 25th 2026 board of supervisors meeting happy to have you here today we are going to start with our flag salute led by our treasurer tax collector tristan butcher Thank You mr. butcher we will now move to our consent agenda I know we have item 17 a requested to be pulled for discussion are there any other items that the board would like to pull and is there anyone here in the chambers who'd like to pull an item off of consent and anyone online we have one online chair

All right, then we will go to the remaining items, if I can get a motion. Second. Moved by Jones, seconded by Gustafson. This is a roll call vote.

Thank you for pulling this item. We did have a public request, so I asked the chairperson to pull this this morning, and I think Gloria is going to do this. Yes.

Great, thank you, Gloria. Supervisor Jones. Oh, I'm sorry. Supervisor Gustafson. Thank you.

Gloria, thanks for being here today. I know that in reading the public comments that we've received and a few phone calls I've had, there's some misunderstanding potentially. This is purely a funding mechanism if it were to take place. It doesn't change any land use zoning. It's not specific to any projects.

At the summit last week, I was talking to one of our congressional representatives who said it is rarely used. They'd hoped it would have done more to generate financial investments. uh... we talked about the extremely high cost of development in the tahoe area and any opportunities there were for additional uh... funding for projects because of that otherwise uh... what we're finding is that word people are looking at the county to subsidize and so i think you know in my uh... reading of the concerns it was really specific to a project or two increasing land use zoning designations or somethi

Right, through federal sources versus local sources. Correct. Correct, by those tax credits. Thank you.

Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Gloria, for that presentation. Are we looking at all of Kings Beach, like the whole city of Kings Beach? Is that what this is for? Because I've, back in 2019, toured a lot of Opportunity Zones, and none of them look like Kings Beach. The ones I looked at were very distressed, very abandoned. So how do we think? I mean, it's a great opportunity. I love them. They're great. tax benefits to people who want to invest in our love to have more people invest up here but word from what i see and i see kings beach it's like completely different ends of the spectrum so how d

It's a great tool, I've looked into it, and it just seems like some of the properties that you want to do that with, I mean it's a 10 year extension, right? You stay there for 10 years, you get to not pay capital gains tax if you keep your, it's a great tool, but it's just, When I saw it on Kings Beach and I'm like, where I've toured opportunity zones, they sure don't look like Kings Beach. So that's why I was asking how Kings Beach became eligible for.

It has to do with the census track data, right? The income levels as well as the vacancy factor and the blighted condition of just some of the buildings. So it wouldn't necessarily mean that somebody would tear down an existing good building, but some of the boarded up buildings, gated off buildings might be a place for investment. is my understanding.

So they were ranked. What did Kings Beach come out ranked?

No, I think it's great. I'm all in favor of it. I just was shocked when I saw that this would be an opportunity zone, considering what I've seen in the past. But I guess things change. So thank you for that.

All right. Is there anyone here in the chambers who'd like to comment on this item?

Oh, I don't think that's related. Sorry, we're not in public comment yet. Thank you. All right, anyone else here in the chambers who would like to comment on this item? And is there anyone online?

all right i will go ahead and close public comment on this item and uh... i'm not sure if there were any direct questions that you needed to answer

Thank you. Supervisor Gore. I appreciate that clarification. I appreciate the public's comment and I'd like to make a motion to approve the item.

And Supervisor Gustafson, I think, do you have a comment?

I will second it, and then I had a couple comments to make. Thank you. And I just, I want to, as in everything that we've been attempting to do for many decades in Tahoe, it generates a lot of concern and a lot of fear from the community and distrust, and you heard that. I want to go back to this as a potential financing mechanism, not an approval of a project. And that would still stay with all of the regulatory agencies that it would go through. You know, there's been a lack of new development. There's a lot of ideas, a lot of proposals, and then a lot of failed projects, as I think a couple

Thank you. Okay, we have a motion by Gore and a second by Gustafson. Supervisor DiMattei, did you have a comment?

Just one more comment to follow up on my first comment that the places that I did tour and now that I've seen them after they were rebuilt, a majority of them were all for housing and most of them were for affordable housing or workforce housing. So I don't want anybody to have that misperception that we're going to, you know, these are going to be giant hotels or what have you. It seems the opportunities that I've seen and have gone forward that have passed through were actually beneficial to the people who actually work in the community. They're rundown buildings. We don't have rundown build

Okay. Thank you. So we have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions. Thank you. All right, we will now move to public comment. This is the time for anyone here in the chambers and online to comment on items that are not on our agenda. And just as a reminder, at the conclusion of your three minutes, a timer will sound and the chair will ask you to conclude your remarks. If you haven't finished within 15 seconds of the timer sounding, your microphone will be turned off. And because we have a very important, well, we have a number of important items today, but we have a very important item coming up that was at 9.30. I am going to remind folks that if comments can't be heard

I won't use my phone next time. Thank you. All right, anyone else here in the chambers who has a public comment?

Thank you. All right, is there anyone online?

Thank you. Looks like we have two more public comments, and then we will move on with our agenda.

Okay, with that, we will close public comment. I know we have board member and county executive reports. If there's anything we could just go through very quickly if you have something, because again, very important items coming up.

Supervisor Jones. Yeah, I just wanted to mention a couple of kind of public service things that we did last week. We were invited by Silver Wishes to help deliver flowers to some of the senior citizens in my district. That's always an enjoyable thing to do. A lot of happy faces. And then in addition to that, the Friends of the Library invite me every year to give a chat to a group called the Boys Team Charity in Granite Bay. And they clean up the grounds around the Granite Bay Library every year. And so she invites me every year to talk to the boys about leadership and volunteerism and communi

I just wanted to report that the Auburn Library is now reopened. Thank you all to the county staff and all of the hard work. The Friends of the Library did write a check that they presented at the ribbon cutting for over $138,000 to an endowment. That's community contributions that are so appreciated. and the patience that the community has had while the library hasn't been open. I really wanted to thank our facilities staff for the great job on the renovation of the library, so thank you. And then secondly, if you haven't heard, last night the Auburn City Council did appoint Bridget Powers to

Supervisor Gore. Thank you. Appreciate that. I wanted to let the public know 9-11 is coming. It will have been 25 years since that took place. And so I'm really pleased that the county, in conjunction with the city of Roseville, we're putting together location on Vernon Street in downtown Roseville 3,000 flags where the members of the community can just come and stop by and walk through the flags and just stop and remember and so that's on September 11th and I would encourage us all to bring our children and grandchildren because 25 years ago a lot of them weren't around and I think it's so im

country so i hope you all can stop by on september 11th thank you thank you okay with that we will now move to our 9 30 timed item thank you all for your patience this is a commendation in honor of robert k sandman so um i will go ahead and read the commendation And then we will all celebrate Mr. Sandman. In the matter of a commendation recognizing Robert K. Sandman for 27 years of dedicated public service to the county of Placer, whereas Robert K. Sandman served the county of Placer dutifully for over 27 years, during that time he demonstrated an exceptional combination of legal expertise, in

I will just quickly say thank you, Rob. You have worked so very hard. I got to work with you a lot when it came to the WAPNA transition, but you are diligent, hardworking, and we just really appreciate all the things you have done for our community. You have served very well, and it's very clear that you've got a huge team of people that you've worked with for a number of years. And I see some faces in here who wanna acknowledge you, and that says a lot, community members who wanna acknowledge the work that you have done for our county. So thank you very much, Rob, and I wish you all the best

Just thank you, Rob. It's been great working with you, and I know you're looking forward to getting out of that suit and tie, so we won't keep you here very long, as I saw you incognito in shorts and a t-shirt at the library, and I didn't recognize him, and I'm like, who is this guy? Congratulations.

Congratulations, Rob. It's so well-deserved, and look at this outpouring to come for for you and for this recognition and i can't uh... articulating better than supervisor courted but thank you for your service incredible leadership in service to our county supervisor jones

Yes, I'd like to thank you, Rob, for all of your assistance over these last couple of years. You've helped us, or me especially, untangle a lot of many complicated issues that we've had to deal with here on the Board of Supervisors, and I really appreciate it. You and Karen ganged up and gave me a lot of help, so I really appreciate it very much. Thank you.

And I would just echo what everyone else said. I jotted down a couple words that came to mind of things that describe you, and I would say you're a quiet force, steady, you have subtle humor, you're committed, thoughtful, integrous, and diligent. And I would just say, Rob, you are such a joy to work with, and I knew I could go to you with any question, and you would give me a great answer. It may not have always been the answer that maybe I would want to hear, but you would give me The attorney answer, and I appreciate that. And I just want to thank you so much. What a well-deserved retirement

Rob, I know you're not someone to normally come up in public, but would you like to say anything?

Do you need a walk-up song from Metallica?

All right, is there anyone here in the chambers who would like to comment on this item? Uh-oh, another attorney?

Thank you. All right, anyone else here in the chambers? And is there anyone online? Okay, oh, oops, sorry. The engineer.

Thank you. Okay, I will close public comment and I don't think this will be very controversial, but we'll see if we have a motion.

Okay, if we weren't crying already. What a great note to end on.

Oh, yes, that's right. There was an error in the original one. This is corrected, what I read out loud.

That means you can't retire yet, so you're sorry.

Yeah, there you go. All because of the commendation. I would proudly, proudly vote to approve this.

And I will second. It's been moved by Jones, seconded by Gore. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions. We'll come down there and do a quick picture with you.

Okay, we are a little behind, but for good reason. We will now move to our 9.40 timed item, a proclamation in honor of Hunger Action Month.

Great. Well, I have a proclamation here that I wanted to read into the record in honor of designating September as Hunger Action Month. So whereas Feeding America, the nation's largest hunger relief organization, has designated September 2026 as Hunger Action Month, to bring awareness to the critical issues of hunger and poverty impacting communities across the United States. And whereas individuals and families throughout Placer County face daily food insecurity forced to make difficult compromises between purchasing healthy food and paying for essential needs such as housing, utilities, tran

Thank you. Any other comments right now from board members? Okay, would you like to come up and make a few comments?

Thank you. Is there anyone here in the chambers who would like to comment on this item? Okay, I would like to say the work that you do is so important, and I want to say thank you on just behalf of myself, and of course I'm sure other board members might have comments as well. But I, as a kid, there were a number of times where our family could not afford food, and I was fortunate enough to have grandparents that were nearby that could help fill that gap. But not everyone has that. And so it's wonderful to know that you are here and you're here to serve the community and that the broader commu

Yeah, I just want to say thank you for stepping up into that position. The food bank is an amazing place. It is. And the commercial kitchen and everything that you have that you offer even for the public to use, it's a great facility and it's wonderful. And so thank you for that. Thank you for stepping up.

Thank you, and thank you guys for the work that you do. As a grower, we appreciate it because, you know, when we bring the food and you guys help us unload it and you guys get it to the people who need it, and it's actually, you know, we're bringing healthy stuff. A shout out to all my grower friends who do the same thing, that we are very appreciative of you guys, the gleaners and the shelters that help us bring that food to you guys. So thank you for your help.

I was just going to make a motion to approve the proclamation.

Second. I did public comment, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. That darn attorney. Okay. That's been moved by Gustafson, seconded by Jones. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions? We'll pop down there for a quick picture.

You're going to look at the picture. Thank you. Yes, I'd love to do another tour.

Just waiting for... Yeah. I'm going to stand up. It's a surprise. Everyone, I'm waiting for a call because our daughter-in-law is three days overdue with our first grandbaby. Still no call. Now you all can be on pins and needles with me. Okay, the attorney is back. All right, we will now move to our 950 timed item. Repeal of Placer County Code Chapter 15, Article 15.100.

All right, thank you. Any questions or comments from board members? Supervisor Gore?

I'm just gonna say thank you, and I know this is a challenge for some of the members of the development community, but we are in a place where we're actually building Placer Parkway, and that's a really good thing, and it was a tool that was really needed. When the recession happened, And I know it's still challenging to build, but we're really pleased that we can start moving forward with the building of the parkway. And so I just appreciate the hard work and the willingness of the folks who understand where we're at. So thank you, Michelle.

Thank you. Is there anyone here in the public who would like to comment on this item? Anyone online? All right, I'll close public comment and bring it back to the board.

I'll second. Move by Jones, seconded by Gore. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions. Thank you. Thank you, Michelle. We will now move to our 10 a.m. timed item, State Community Development Block Grant Program Funds.

Thank you. Questions or comments from board members? Okay, I will open up the public hearing. Is there anyone here in the chambers who would like to comment on this item? Anyone online? Yes, Chair.

I will close the public hearing and bring it back to the board.

I'll move approval of the item. I'll second.

Moved by Gore, seconded by Gustafson. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions. Thank you. We will now move to our 10.05 timed item, abandonment of public vehicular access over a portion of Old Eureka Place in Granite Bay.

Can I ask a quick question on that? Just looking at the public access pathway picture and then the second picture that you just showed, is that area on the left to where the gate was, is that where that decomposed granite pathway was?

Thank you. Questions or comments from board members at this time? OK, I will go ahead and open up this public hearing. Are there members of the public who would like to comment on this item? You can go ahead and feel free to line up in the center there.

Thank you. And I should note, I should have mentioned at the beginning that the timer will go off at the three-minute mark, and then you will have an additional 15 seconds, and then the mic will automatically turn off. So just so you're aware.

Thank you. Other members of the public who are here in the chambers who would like to comment on this item?

Do you mind just moving the mic down just a few?

Thank you. Anyone else here in the chambers who'd like to comment?

Thank you. Anyone else here in the chambers who would like to speak to this item? Going.

Thank you. All right, looks like we don't have any more in the chambers. Do we have some online? We do, Chair.

Thank you, Chris. Sorry we had to cut you off there. We just have to make sure everyone has equal time.

Thank you. Any other? Alright, I will close the public hearing and bring it back to the board for questions. Actually, there were a few public comment questions in there. I think Amber had a few, if you want to speak to those first.

Thank you. So a couple of questions. First, I completely understand concern about traffic and dumping and trash, right? Get that. You have two lanes. Both are privately maintained. Is that correct? They're both privately maintained. One of them asked to actually have it closed. Ask the county to abandon the husband and have it closed, right? So that's the option we're considering. Could the quail lane folks do the same thing?

And so that's helpful. I mean, any road that has a dead end where people walk through can be a problem for Challenges right whatever that might be I think that the concern I see and I and I asked you went out and took a look at the roads I went out last week. I asked you about traffic on in that area you said not many Vehicles are on old old Auburn place very few and there were a whole lot on quail And you know people saw the turnarounds right not a lot of room to negotiate when there's all that traffic on especially during drop-off. A little bit less in the morning, but there is a clear traff

So there's nothing there now. There was one, and then it was asked to be taken down. Correct. Got that. That's helpful. Back to the application in 2023. It was discontinued. The applicant obviously, or applicants, reapplied. But who got noticed about the... It sounds like it's a whole new process, right? If it was denied back in 2023... When did this application come forth and who was notified?

Yeah, I love the SACB newspaper. You're required, but that doesn't mean anything because nobody reads the B anymore. So our requirement is that they can have an application and you just post it around the area.

the rest the neighbors don't have to be might like that with planning we have to do you know three hundred feet or thirty residents that's right so that's not the same requirements correct in eric and correct me if i'm wrong but that is following the streets and highways code right so we did it was a problem can clarify the process uh... as it happened uh... when they realigned eureka uh... that left the old eureka place and that part of the parcels were not built yet. They were built afterwards. So then one day the gate goes up and of course the neighbors complained because it restricted some

Yes, I had a couple of questions. One is, in reading the resolution, I'm not clear who will maintain, who will be required to maintain the trail and in perpetuity.

So those property owners benefiting from the abandonment who will have that abandoned will be required to maintain that. It didn't seem as explicit maybe as I would like to see it. And then my second question for county council is not present day owners, but 20 years from now, somebody buys a piece of property and starts to obstruct that. How do we, the County defend the public access right there? Or does it revert to neighbors having to sue neighbors or others?

Okay. I have a situation just in my own neighborhood where it is a county right-of-way and we have started a process that takes a very long time, as you know, um, to get enforcement from the property owner. Uh, and so I would just call that into question that we, as, as a board need to look at those situations and maybe give greater enforcement tools, uh, to encourage people to remove obstacles in the public right of way, or an easement like this to ensure that that moves forward.

Thank you. I see people with their hands up. Public comments closed in case the chair didn't see it. Just wanted to give you guys a heads up. Questions on Quail Lane? It's a private road. It's not a public road, non-maintained public road. It's a private road, Quail Lane? You want to maybe answer? Correct. I just want to make sure I'm correct.

So is that about 50, 60, 100 feet past the stop sign? I can check this.

So if it's a public, I mean, if it's a private road, and now Old Eureka Road is going to be abandoned, now a private road as well. Can all those residents just move that gate 50, 60 feet off of Eureka Road so the whole thing is private and they don't have to have, I mean both roads are pretty narrow. I drove there the other day with my truck. There was no cars on the road but I couldn't imagine those people having cars parked there and there's a horse property there trying to get their horse trailers through there. So is it possible to just close off the whole thing and what would that take?

Okay. Even though it's in, but if we put the gate just past the public easement on the private part, does that give enough space for the people on quail to put their own gate up? If it's a private road, why are they restricted from putting a gate?

So that way they just don't have one on Old Eureka and then one on Quail to stop the traffic, but just have one so they all access it. And, of course, the Knox box would be for emergency use only.

I think about a year ago we had the Winchester situation, or two years ago now, where they wanted to gate, and the community plan had said no gates.

Yeah, but that also had emergency access vehicle. We're talking about two pieces of property that have dead ends, or two roads that have dead ends.

I'm just trying to point out that it's... What he's saying is correct. We made the findings that the community plan would have to be changed on that.

So as we do our community plan updates, we should look into that. Probably change a lot of languages throughout Placer County.

so i i'm i'm okay with this project but i'm also would like to have more information on what it would take to just close off that whole section i know that we don't have control over what the school does that's their problem the traffic is their problem but now it seems like it's impeding other people's problems to get in and out of their own homes so if we can just close off the whole thing for them i would like to have information on that because it seems like that's what the public has been at. Those 10, 20 people who live, it impedes them. So if we can get some, if I can, if the rest of th

Yes. I can chime in on that also as well, Anthony. But first of all, I want to start out by addressing the comments that were made about me and I said that so my comments were taken completely out of context by taking just a segment of a sentence out of several sentences that I addressed to the person I was emailing. Second, my comment was not an endorsement of the abandonment. What I said was, and I told everybody, that the proponents who had applied for the abandonment had done everything that was required for them. They submitted the application until they got it right. They did the survey

Yeah, I'm aware we can't go put the gate up. That's why I asked. If they asked what I hear today, because they want both of them closed off, then it's up to them to put their application to close it off.

I don't know if the quail lane people want it blocked off. I just asked the question. They both have the right to and the ability to, but they're not asking for it. So I think the concern is, right, from the folks on quail is that they're concerned if you close old Eureka that it will affect the traffic on quail lane. That's the concern, right? You close one, it's going to impact And they're not asking for their lane to be closed because then they have to pay for it and maintain it and the whole thing.

Well, it's private anyway, so they still have to maintain it. They don't have to pay for it. I talked to somebody on the phone. They're like, we have asked to put the gate there, but we were denied by the county. So that's why I want to know why they were denied or if it was even denied. That's why I'm asking the question today is why can't we put it there if there was an ask for it in the past? Obviously, this is not the subject today is to close the whole thing. Ask today is just to close this. Yes, we can close this today, but if they come to us, why can't we put it there if they want the whole thing closed off?

Well, as I said, I had already investigated that option, and it was an option. So I asked the proponents if they would be willing to move that gate to the front, and they declined. Okay. Yeah.

Okay, I do have more additional questions. So first of all, one of the questions that the constituents asked is if all of the pertinent parties' residents signed the abandonment application.

I'm just curious why they think that not everybody signed it. Are there residents, all of the parcels that bound the old Eureka Place, all those residents signed that application?

I think she was asking if all the residents who live in each household had signed those, but it doesn't sound like that's a requirement. It's just the property owner?

Yeah, legal owners. Okay, and then I have a question on the portion of the trail the one, the DG trail that goes from the road down and then eventually to Sierra College.

Okay. And so if it, when it gets degraded from rain or water or whatever, do you guys always go out and make repairs to it or, I mean, is it? Yes, we do. Okay. Okay. So I wasn't sure I heard some word about it not being a maintained trail.

Okay. Because that's where some concerns were that the trail would not be usable. Right. So I'm happy to know that it will be. So then I'm wondering, too, about there are, on that picture, there are a couple of big boulders. I notice there are stakes there and boulders. I didn't notice those stakes there previously, back when this whole thing began. There we go, okay. Okay.

So my question is, and the boulders as well, because it's in the pictures here where they've got the stakes and the boulders in front of it. So in the event that, let's do a yes or no. If it does get abandoned, do we remove the stakes and the boulders? Because now we're preserving that trail for people to go in and out. And it doesn't look to me like I wouldn't go through those big boulders on my bicycle.

Well, I mean, if we abandon the road, I don't think we have to worry about any traffic or small vehicles going past that. So I just think it should be opened back up for bicycles and pedestrians.

Well, is it a possibility? Because they never used to be there until some people in vehicles decided to try it.

Yeah. Okay. Good. For sure. Good. I appreciate that. And then so some of the things that I'm kind of worried about. Supervisor Gustafson brought it up, is about the proponents agreed to maintain this, the trail area and the clearance on either side. So I think, as Council was saying, is if we can get something in writing that's signed by the parties and recorded, or however, so that it follows with the land, because let's say one of them sells their home and they're no longer living there, but whoever buys their home Will they feel like, well, it's not my responsibility. I don't have to take c

Yeah. Well, it's not so much for maintenance as it is they had agreed to keep it clear on the sides of the gate for pedestrians, bicyclists, and also horses as well if they think they can fit through there. Part of my question is so keeping those weeds away and also to kind of make sure that the dirt stays level. as it is right now on the other side of the road there are little small rocks at the end at the edge of the road which you couldn't even drive on that edge of the road with those small rocks in there i think that the rocks should be cleared out of that little Path right on the edge of

Maybe we can get the cost out of my lighting and landscape district. I don't know. We'll have to look into it. But I think anything we could do to widen that would be most appreciated because I just don't think it's. I don't know much about horses, but I think that if they're put in narrow spaces, don't they get a little icky? I don't know. So I'm just trying to look out for the horse owners. But anyway, so those are the things to promise to keep them clear at all times. And then... I think that maybe Parks or DPW, if you guys could just go in and make sure at the beginning things are set the

Thank you. I just wanted to continue this discussion. We've clearly excluded ourself from needing to maintain this trail. Somebody has to cut weeds. Somebody has to make sure something is done. And I would suggest the property owners be responsible for that. We'd be explicit about that. So I wanted to hear what Mr. Cook's suggestions were on that.

Yeah, thank you, Chair. To be clear, if you're looking at the south side of Old Eureka is a drainage canal. The north side is the easement. Is that correct? The access easement?

So we're not making anybody – the drainage is the drainage. That's not where people can walk. There's rocks there, whatever. We're not going to – that's not what we're talking about, right? The easement is only on the north side of Old Eureka Road.

There won't be access on the south side, only on the north side. Correct. Okay, just wanted to be clear. Thank you.

Can I ask a clarification with that? So there's a road there, right? If people walk through the pedestrian access, if it's closed off, can they walk on the road? Or do they only have to walk on the maintained road? pedestrian because it's a whole area right there so with the reservations over that entire area they can use the roadway they could use the road yes okay that is helpful but i still don't love this

okay i have a few questions first of all i think this is neighbor issues are always the worst i mean i think it's really just a bummer that neighbors can't can't come together to try and find a resolution and a solution and so i mean it would be great if all of you could come together and actually sit and share a meal together and find a pathway where maybe you would all don't get everything you want but maybe you get some of what you want and so I would just challenge you even whatever happens today maybe just sit down together for a meal and have like a real human conversation because these

Okay. So there was some concession on the original application to now include Bike Ped Equestrian in the new part, in the new application. Okay. And then is there a reason why it didn't go back to the MAC again this time around?

OK. I think one of the things I've painfully learned myself is that sometimes just doing the bare minimum isn't always the best and sometimes we can do more and go above and beyond and i think this is this is probably one where we could have gone out and and more and and maybe some of these things could have been resolved maybe not maybe we sort of landed in the same that that optimistic person in me wants to say no would have been resolved that and but i do think i would i would request and recommend that in the future and i mean I can understand from a staff perspective why this time it may

I just wanted to bring into consideration, too, and I know we had some case law that we maybe may play a role here that you want to identify for us, Clayton. Sure. On a somewhat similar but different situation in my district.

May I ask a question? Yeah, I just want to thank him because I didn't want to try to Explain that there is precedent that we are within our legal rights to make the vehicular issue some roadway Yeah, and my point of clarification Clayton.

It's not necessary for transportation network What about parking how does parking play into that because that ultimately ends up being an area where people have parked and

Thank you. I think that's my concern, is that you close this and it affects the parking on another lane. That's my biggest concern.

Yeah, but we, yeah, as I look at the roadway and the width and as I went out there, I mean, it's not adequate for the parking that was occurring. And so you're blocking, you're impeding if there was a claim, you could have a claim the other way, right? That you're impeding public access by the parking, so.

Yes, I want to address the part where you felt like it needed to go before the MAC. This has been an ongoing discussion. It's been heard in the court of public opinion on social media, next door, and everything else. So really, all interested parties have been opining both ways for better than two years while we wait to see if the abandonment might whether it could even be a possibility with the application and everything. But in addition to all that and the school traffic, it is a mess. It's a mess. And DPW has agreed to meet with me out there to see if there are any possibilities of easing s

So it sounds like you're planning a meeting with the school and CHP. Is that what you were saying?

Part of why they don't have enough parking is because what the school did with part of their proposed parking lot, they put in a soccer field. So that eliminated a whole bunch of parking spaces.

It seems like this is pretty wrapped up. I would like to make a motion to abandon this, go forward with a motion. the recommendation and also add in what Supervisor Gutherson has asked for as well. It was one of my notes as well, to make sure that the owners now maintain it so it's still accessible by the public. And how we put those words in, we'll leave it to the boss, Mr. Clayton. But I would like to make a motion to approve this project.

OK, and we have a motion by D Matea in a second by Gustafson. Before we take a roll call vote, I just want to say this is this has been a really challenging one and and I really understand both perspectives. I can. I feel both sides and I get it. I really do and. I think there are some valid concerns around what's going to happen when that road gets closed. Where are those people going to park? They're going to end up getting pushed out onto another road. There really is no perfect solution. I want you to know that clearly it was not an easy one. We've been going back and forth for a little wh

Yes. Okay. go have lunch together please okay we are now going to move to and this is what the plan is and we're obviously way behind and so we are going to hear items six and seven then we're going to go through the department items we will then go to a short closed session and come back for our ADU item item 8a after closed session Okay, we might do maybe a portion and come back. We'll see what time it is.

Then we'll go back to closed session because it's a longer.

All right, we will now move to item 6A, funding commitment letter for the Hopeway Apartments Phase 1 project.

Thank you. Okay, questions or comments from board members? Supervisor DiMattei?

Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. Just one question on the request for funds later. Is there a, say there's only 250, what's the limit that would have to come to the board for approval? Or if we approve the whole 7 million today, county staff has the obligation just to give it to them without coming back to us?

Okay. Nothing that has to come back to us until it reaches? Correct.

Because there's only like a million plus or minus dollars there, right? Currently, yes. Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

Mr. Cook? Any other questions right now? Okay. I will open it up to the public for comments or questions.

Thank you. Are there any other comments here in the chambers? Okay, is there anyone online? Yes, there are a few.

I'm sorry what we were having at your can you hear me now?

Diane, that item we haven't heard yet, so if you could wait to comment on that item until the next item, that would be great.

Sorry that we had to cut your time. And there was a few more, right?

We can come back. Maybe skip her and come back after the others.

Alright, with that I will close the public comment and bring it back to the board for questions. Well, I have a few. So I sent these to you all ahead of time and, well, actually forgot again the public comment question. Some of mine were the same as theirs. So why don't you go ahead and answer. I know there was one around the loan and the cost of construction. I don't know if you want to speak to those. Sure.

Can I just ask, can you repeat that clearly? I mean, you're being very clear about the The public is still saying it's not transparent. I want to be very clear on this point for the public.

Absolutely, and it's clear that the source of that funding, I just want to be clear for the public record, is Bickford Ranch development fees paid for to provide housing. So it is not tax dollars from any other source or any other mechanism. Correct. I want to be clear to the public because they still seem not certain about that, and sometimes we speak in language and terms that we all understand, and the public may need to be further educated. So we collect those fees, and the developer is taking the risk. Correct. Because if those stop, if Bickford stops developing, there's no fees generated

I know you explained it all, but you go very quickly, and I do think we need to be very clear for the public on that. Absolutely.

I think there was one question. I know it's not directly related to this, but there was one question on the roundabout conversation and where that is right now. I was wondering if you could speak to that.

Looks like maybe Marcus is scooching up.

Okay, thank you. So the other questions I had are, if the project doesn't have any residual income in any given year, Does the county receive no loan payment that year? And do we have a projection showing how much to realistically expect the county to receive each year?

Okay. And so could we theoretically go 5, 10, or 20 years without receiving any payments? Okay. And then what happens if at year 55 the project hasn't generated enough residual receipts to repay the loan?

Thank you. Thank you guys for the presentation. Just to be clear, for those in Penryn who I've talked to, neighbors, in the settlement agreement that the Penryn group had, in their agreement was to... to support this funding. So for those who have called and talked to me and said not to support this funding, which doesn't swayed my decision here today, but you guys did agree to, um, to back that funding. Also, I have a question. If Bigford has given us money and, and so say the board, for example, doesn't approve funding for this project, are we in, um, in noncompliance with Bigford and the co

Well, and that's to another question I think Jennifer raised is, are there other smaller projects that might be interested in using mitigation fees? And have you been approached for any other smaller projects in that vicinity? It's very challenging to do those smaller developments.

Okay, I don't see any additional questions at this time from board members. So now would be your time to chime in. Supervisor Gore.

Well, Madam Chair, I appreciate all the public comment. I appreciate the developer making a change coming back. I appreciate those who sued the developer working through this and wanting to support this, so I'll make a motion to move approval of the item. And I will second.

Okay, before we take a vote, I just had a couple of thoughts I wanted to share. So I voted no on the original request that came forward, and I think I was pretty clear for my reasons why it had everything to do with the density and the size of the project. And I still am not supportive of the larger project. Because of the lawsuit, this has now been broken into two phases. And so this phase is 131... 33? 31. 32. Okay.

To me, that's fair. I would be thrilled if that was the end of this project. I know that that probably isn't happy news for the developer of this, but to me that's appropriate. It's a little bigger than what I would hope for Penryn, but I think that's appropriate for the community of Penryn. And I would prefer no subsidies. I'm a free market person, but we don't live in a free market in California, unfortunately. And so we're in a position where we have some affordable housing dollars that are coming in from Bigford. They can be used for this project and I'm supportive of using the funds for t

Yeah, I'd like to say something as well. I did work with Placer Citizens for Neighborhood Rights as well, and he told me that part of that agreement was for us to be amicable towards the loan of money. Well, it's not really a loan, it's the fees, me and the fees that we're going to be giving them. I only had a question is, why 55 years to repay the loan? It seems crazy. I won't be here to see it.

All right, we had a motion by Gore and a second by, now I forget, Supervisor Gustafson. This is a roll call vote.

Appreciate it. We will now move to Item 7A, Preliminary Funding Letter for Placer 1 Affordable Housing Project.

Thanks, Nikki. Questions from board members?

Okay. I see Mr. Taylor's here, and he has to leave quickly, so I will ask if he wants to come up really quick.

Thank you. Anyone else here in the chambers who'd like to comment on this item? Anyone online?

Thank you. I wanted to thank seeing both of our development partners out here that we're moving forward on affordable housing. And this is such a challenge for all of us. Some are required in specific plans. Others, like Bickford, we didn't require it in a specific plan. We required fees in lieu. So we couldn't build it there. But we're making progress. And I'm just so heartened. that we are making progress toward those state mandates so that we can continue to move forward and serve our communities. It's not perfect and it probably never will be. We have such an equity in salaries and jobs an

Supervisor Gore? Yes, I appreciate the additional public benefit that comes with this, the additional 242 units. That makes a huge difference, especially some that are more affordable because the developer did not have to do that. And so there's a benefit of us providing these funds that actually get something built and get it built before homes are right in that area. because that's always a challenge, right? Areas are zoned for affordable and then apartment, three story apartment complexes go up and residents in the neighborhood just freak out. So I really appreciate this being done early an

Thank you. Thank you for the presentation as well. I do agree that it's great that we're putting these projects before houses so we don't have to deal with what we've dealt with in the past and nobody else has to deal with that in the future. I guess we just have some money questions. If we're giving this out as a loan, is it coming from the general fund? How does this go on our books? Does it go as debt? How do we collect, you know, how are we collecting this? Is it coming from discretionary funds that we have? Because we have, as DPW came to us two weeks ago, that we have infrastructure for

Yes, thank you. Got some stuff here. So it addresses the project proposed, well, they're going to, resulting in 242 additional units beyond the affordable housing obligation. But I'm wondering what level of affordability are those 242? Do we know?

OKAY. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, IT SAYS NO COUNTYWIDE POLICY EXISTS REGARDING QUANTIFIABLE PUBLIC BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE UNITS OR UNITS DELIVERED PRIOR TO STATED TIMING TRIGGERS. So under the HCF guidelines, a project may be eligible for up to $60,000 in assistance per extremely low income unit. So what's the, it says in assistance. What, where?

OK. And then so the loan isn't secured. Correct. I mean, just like any other normal loan, you have security. You secure the loan if you default.

So we have to identify a source, a funding source?

What are our chances of figuring out a funding source? I mean, we don't have many options.

I don't know, we're asking the whole county every time we do a budget to tighten our belts with regard to needs and wants and desires for facilities and personnel and everything. It's concerning to me. I did ask the treasurer tax collector his opinion on it, and it wasn't good. The other thing, too, I have concerns about, I really have concerns about setting a precedent because, you know, I understand 242 extra units, but the issue is any other affordable housing builders, you know,

And the way I would look at it is anyone else who came to us, there would have to be an additional public benefit for it. That's the only reason there's a willingness to say yes to this, because we're getting an additional $242,000. Otherwise, my first response is no way. I'm not just gonna give money to developers that are required to do 10% inclusionary and just help them do that because they already signed the deal knowing that there's a 10% inclusionary. But this is an additional, and it's not two or three units. It's a substantial number of units. And that's why I feel like I can justify

Yeah. Say yes. But it even states in the, in the, uh, the report that there's no countywide policy in existence right now regarding quantifiable public benefits. with regard to additional affordable units or units delivered ahead of time.

Right, and I think that's a good point that I think the ad hoc is working on as part of how we come up with funding packages because I've been assured by staff they've looked at projects throughout the region. Everyone is taking local subsidy now. And that means to achieve our goals, to keep development moving forward and growth moving forward, we have to invest in affordable housing to some degree. So what is the appropriate amount? And that's going to vary, and that's what's so challenging. Project by project, in a specific plan, the infrastructure is already there and being paid for by thos

Right, I agree, but I think that we need to figure out a funding source first.

Well, since we're not, I think for clarification again, we're not voting on the actual funding today. So really quick to her, Supervisor Jones' question on the number of very low versus low. Are those not, were you just saying, because it was broken down on slide two, right? But you were just saying you don't know of the 242 how that breakdown, is that what you were saying? Correct, yeah.

Well, I mean, my thoughts are I just I'm really thankful that we have an opportunity to get additional units. And I will say, you know, there's not very many opportunities where someone is coming forward and saying that they want to provide an additional benefit for affordable housing. And so that goes a really long way. And as Supervisor Gore said, this is not just five or 10 units, 242 additional units. And the biggest piece for me is that it's in an area where it makes sense, where we want affordable housing. We want it to be where there's transit and good infrastructure and the Sac State c

Okay, I'll bring it back to the board for a motion.

I'll make a motion for the requested action considering this is only a consideration and it still has to come back to us for a final approval. The only other comment I had is a lot of people said, hey, we're making 4%, we're giving it to them at 3%, but I think a $90,000 haircut in our income might be a little bit beneficial, but that's it.

I'll second the motion. I think there's some sort of requirement about the 3%, right? Is that correct?

Okay, it's been moved by DiMattei, seconded by Gore, and this is a roll call.

Yes. All right, thank you. And I meant to say thank you also to Nikki, Marie, your whole team, Daniel, Shawna, everyone who really rallied to get this to the board quickly, because I know it wasn't expected. So thank you for your work on it. All right, we are going to now move to our first department item, item 9A, 2627, budget amendment to fund various code enforcement nuisance abatement activities. Yes, I agree.

Thank you. Questions or comments from board members? Anyone here?

Oh, I just think it's an excellent idea. Oh, thank you. We need it, so thank you.

Yes, I agree. You've got plenty of those. You're going to spend a lot of money in our districts. But yes, yay. Let's get it done.

Anyone here in the chambers who'd like to comment on this item? Anyone online? All right, I'll bring it back to the board. Wow, everyone is so excited. Move by Gore, seconded by DeMattei. All those in favor? No, just kidding. It's a roll call. Aye.

Yes. All right. Thank you. Great presentation. We'll move to item 10A, agreements for the intergovernmental transfer of public funds.

Thank you. Questions or comments from board members? Oh, not supervisor, Mr. Cook.

Got it. Is there anyone here in the chambers who would like to comment on this item? And anyone online? All right, I'll bring it back to the board.

I'll move approval, and well done. I'm glad you all understand how this all works.

Moved by Gore, seconded by DiMattei. All those in favor? Any opposed? No abstentions. I think we're all getting hilarious.

Good job presenting. I think it's your first time, right?

Yeah, it is. Thank you. Great job. We'll move to item 10B, resolution authorizing execution of specified agreements for health and human services.

Thank you. Questions or comments from board members? I don't see any. Is there anyone here in the chambers who'd like to comment on this item? And anyone online?

Sorry, can I interrupt you? Are you commenting on item 10B right now?

All right. I'll bring it back to the board.

I want to say thank you to you for presenting as well. I think you're new, so welcome. And I really, I hear that concern, but every contract goes through county council and risk management, and we do all the work ahead of time, and this is just sort of business as usual because HHS has so many contracts. So I will move approval.

Move by Gore, seconded by DiMattei. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions. Thank you very much. We'll move to Item 10C, Agreement with Advocates for Mentally Ill Housing Incorporated for Peer Services.

Yes, it says, hi Amy, thank you for that. That's great. This whole program is great. It says that it is included but not limited to Placer's mobile crisis team, outpatient mental health teams, homeless liaison, and transitional support housing. Is that limited just to Placer County?

We don't see any additional questions. Is there anyone here in the chambers who'd like to comment on this item? Anyone online? All right, I'll bring it back to the board.

With that, I'd like to move approval. Oh, you have one online? Sorry. Caller, go ahead and unmute your mic.

Thank you. Do you want to go ahead and answer?

Got it, thank you. And this wasn't speaking, because I know she said who's this housing and all that, but this isn't talking about that.

I think it might be partly because of the name. You know, mentally ill. Oh, yeah. Housing. I think that's why she called it.

I'll second. Moved by Jones, seconded by Gore. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions. Thank you. Thank you for your patience. Now we'll move to item D, agreement with Children's Receiving Home of Sacramento.

Thank you. Questions or comments from board members? Yes.

I'm just curious, Paula. Do we have a success rate?

I'm sure glad you're there for them. It's a great program, thank you.

All right, is there anyone here in the chambers who'd like to comment on this item? And anyone online?

Thank you. And I would agree. Super important work. So thank you. All right. Okay. Supervisor Gustafson moved. And seconded by Supervisor Jones. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions. Thanks, Twyla. All right. Mr. Romero, I think you were the last one last time right before closed session. They really just stick you at the end, I guess. That's all right. Poor Mr. Romero.

All right, questions or comments from board members? Anyone here in the chambers who would like to comment on this item? And anyone online?

Thank you. And is it for both foster kids as well as kids who are not in the system?

I have a question. So how do you find these kids?

Right, would they get referred through their medical practitioner?

All right, any other questions or comments? I don't see any. I'll move approval. I'll second. Moved by Jones, seconded by Gustafson. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions? And with that, we have one more timed item, so we're going to get to that item after closed session. We're going to go to closed session, and we will come back as close to 2.30 as we can, and we'll see how much we can get through in closed session. I'll have Clayton read us out.

Oh, I just realized Megan's not here, but I pressed the button. Did anyone tell her? Did anyone tell her that we're back?

Sorry, I didn't realize the clerk wasn't here. Clayton's going. Sorry, you guys. All right, we're back. I'm sure you all missed us. I will have Clayton report out from closed session.

Thank you. We are now going to go to our 11.30 timed item. 2026 Accessory Dwelling Unit Ordinance. Good afternoon.

Thank you. Great presentation for your first presentation. Questions or comments from board members? Supervisor Gustafson.

Thank you. Excuse me. I ran into a member of a local water district board over the weekend during the library ribbon cutting. And he again expressed this concern from Christian Valley about water supply. So would we require, would our planning review require a will serve from the water district?

So the short answer is yes. So the water district, if they don't have capacity to serve ADUs in their boundary, would be able to say they don't have capacity and we would not issue that permit.

So the Wilser would be asked for it. Okay. I just wanted to, that's the answer I gave him, and so I'm glad I was right for once. But maybe I remembered what staff had briefed me on. Thank you.

I had two questions. One on the deed restriction portion. Does that have any impact? So now that we can't deed restrict them, right? Is that correct?

Okay. So I was just, my question was going to be, does that impact us like Reno wise in the future or development projects that come forward in the future? If they have a J 80 you on there, can we still de-restrict that for affordable to get that counted?

Okay, great. And then my only other question was around, and I asked this ahead of time, I just was kind of hoping maybe you could answer it on the record was the um ADUs being sold separately um to non-profits or low-income buyers so if you could just maybe explain um because that when I first saw that they could be sold separately is very concerning but I think you kind of answered my questions I just hoped you could maybe speak a little bit to that yeah of course so the mechanism oh your mic

Thank you. Thanks for that. Since it's a tenant in common, obviously they can't split the parcel, right? So the landowner will still retain his property rights and ownership, but then he's basically selling a portion of his property to this tenant in common partnership, right? But if the property's ever sold, that deed restriction would stay on there as a tenant in common, whether the tenant retains their property space in that adu or not right interesting that's correct so if it becomes a tenant in common which then triggers something else in my thought if especially if it's happening in san

I mean, that sounds like a great idea. You don't have to pay capital gains on your house. That's awesome. Okay. Thank you.

Sorry, can I ask for one clarification? So when you say they opted in, we're not opting in to this, or we are opting in?

Okay, I think I understand now, thank you. Any other questions or comments from board members? Okay, anyone here in the chambers who'd like to comment on this item? And anyone online? Okay, I'll close public comment and bring it back to the board for a vote.

Moved by Jones, seconded by Gustafson. And this is a, I guess I closed the public hearing. All right, all those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? And no abstentions. Thank you. All right, now we will go back to closed session.

All right, we are back from closed session, and County Council will read us out.

Thank you. We will now adjourn our meeting to our next regular meeting on September 8th, 2026.