Planning, Zoning and Appeals Board - Regular Meeting

All right, thank you very much. We swear in the public?

All right, we'll stand up now for a moment of silence. The pledge of allegiance.

All in favor, aye. Nay. So it's passed. Thank you very much. All right. Let's move into setting the agenda, correct?

Showing none. Show it passed. Thank you. Yes. Let's go into then, we don't have minutes, so then we'll go in order five, and then all in deference to our sitting commissioner, we'll take 15, and then we'll go from there.

No? Okay. All right. Showing none. Any motions? Motion to approve. Second. Super. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Showing none, show to the past. Thank you very much.

Well, I'll keep it open until after we do a few more minutes because of the pat-up, plus there's 11 other items. So I'll keep it open for now.

All right, thank you. I'll open the floor. Any public comments? All right, showing none. I'll bring it to the board.

I'll take a motion. Any seconds? Roll call, please.

Thank you, thank you. Oh, yes, for consumers comments.

It feels pretty fresh, and I'll give some time to the board and also to public comment, and then if anything else, we'll bring you back up. Absolutely. Thank you.

I mean, we could, the public comment, you're able to talk. I got you. We have questions we could ask you. No problem. But it makes good notes for the record, right? For the record. That's what I'd like to know. Very good. Thank you, sir. Anybody else?

Thank you. Thank you very much. Any other members of the public? Seeing none. Applicant, any further questions? We're available for questions. Thank you. I'll bring it into the board. Questions? No, Mr. Bailey. Oh, you have a question.

All right. All right, I'll give it to Mr. Bailey. Go for it.

Excellent. Yep. I'll take the motion. Any seconds? Second. Super. Roll call, please.

Thank you. Nice, thank you. All right, any further public comment? Showing none, I'll close, and then I'll bring it to the board.

I'll come back to you, Chris. Yep, oh, yes, go.

Showing no other comments, just, we love our code, all right? If the applicant's okay with the conditions and move forward and you wanna make that amendment, I'll take the amendment.

Motion and second? Second. All right. Roll call, please.

Thank you very much. All right. Next, please.

Thank you, Ms. Watson. Okay, members from the public. Mr. Cruz.

That's not a, let's just keep to our comments.

Thank you. Anybody else, members of the public? Seeing none, I'll take it to the board.

different way to get to the same result is essentially what we're doing okay so you're getting the benefits through the affordable housing but the shape and form okay I understand okay I think I'm good thank you all right straightforward thank you very much motion to approve thank you seconds thank you Roll call, please.

Thank you very much. Members of the public.

Thank you. Anyone else from the public? Seeing none, I'll bring it to the board. Mr. Mann.

Ms. Snyder, is this, I'm sorry I was late, but maybe you could tell me this, is this only for one area or is it citywide? This would be citywide. Would the cases along or way where you've got T3 abutting T5, would that be affected by this?

Because if this is, what we've had developers in the past try to, knowing that they would have a very hard time trying to upzone the T5s there, that they had accumulated more than one property on Coral Way, and they had purchased all the abutting T3s behind, which were also, they had a line of T3s behind a line of T5s, and they knew they would not be able to get very far trying to upzone to T6 there. So they tried to upzone the back to T4 with this, and they failed. the neighborhood, I think the city at that time wanted, was amenable to a T4 liner on the north part of 22nd Terrace, saying that

On what basis would this board be able to deny it?

I'm sorry, I missed the first part of the presentation.

But just if you could very briefly tell me Why I should vote for it.

Okay, but state law has a say as to whether the people on the south side of 22nd Terrace have any standing in not wanting a T4 of zoning across the street for them?

Thank you. Thank you. As we're done with public comment, let's also close on public comment at this time. Thank you.

So we can't, you already closed public comment, so we could have a member who could call you up or something. Yeah, can I call her up? I'd like to get a little more clarification on that.

Do you know what I did? So that's, Mr. Fernandez has any specific questions he could address it. I mean, now it's, you were given time for opportunity for public comment. If he has specific questions he could ask you.

You can sit down. You can sit down, please.

Sounds good. I'll just make a quick comment, just thank you. right, good legislation. And ultimately, it makes me happy that these items will come back before us. I mean, ultimately, we are the body that ensures that the populace is protected. So we're here for that. So thank you for the legislation that allows us to have some of these things. Anyways, I'll take the motion. I will second that.

There's one thing through the chair, if I just may. I'd just like to make a comment to the board. Last year, 50 Grove members came into this chamber withstanding. They had the strongest case to deny a diminishing, which would have increased density in their area, reduced the canopy, and increased the traffic on a very small street that even the police that lived in that area said it's a bad idea. Even staff said it was a bad idea. The District Court of Appeals had said a couple of years earlier for an identical case, it's a bad idea, and overturned it. These folks had four aces, and this board

That's our job, ultimately, as the board.

What they're doing is taking the T4 with the T5s and the T6s so that they can get what they want, which is to intrude into T3s. If we do need T4s, It should be on a case-by-case basis. And it should not be a blanket like this. This is a blanket knitted by developers that make it much easier for them to get what they want when it should not be much easier. So that's why I cannot vote for this. Because this board has proven in the past that it will not stand with a neighborhood that comes up and says, case by case basis, we really don't like this. Please don't let it happen. And this board overr

Additionally, 50 people showed up here and they were denied. But you're going from one case to one case. That's the whole purpose of this board. From one aspect in what's directed to us by...

The folks that showed up here had the strongest hand I've ever seen. And I doubt we'll ever see a group with a stronger hand than that. And they were denied. And this is going to make it even more difficult for them to get their issues addressed. They did win their case. They did ultimately win their case.

We're going down the legal tangent. That's right.

It cost them money. It cost them money. It doesn't matter.

That's not the point, though, Mr. Mann. Mr. Mann, the whole purpose of this board. is to be able to give the populace the ability to come here. The fact of the matter is, during that time, when we had those co-vites come in, and by the way, you can look, I live two blocks from there. From that perspective, that's the whole purpose. They came in, they expressed their thoughts, we tried to assist them, and other times that we've had the same situation, i.e. the bridge, or sorry, the alleyway that was just vacated, Well, not to go into, but those same exact factors, we were able to send it back w

Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thanks to the public. Thank you everyone here. Second time chair. Not bad.

I mean, motion to finish. Second. Thank you. Adjourned. Thank you.